Results: Timed Training - Maribor DH World Cup 2020

Oct 14, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
Loris Vergier put down a blistering time in qualie s. The deteriorating track conditions had him sitting further back in finals in 10th.

The results are in from the first timed training session of the year. There are four points where the track splits between Friday's race track and Sunday's race track and with both options open in training, riders had multiple avenues to pick from making these timed training results mean even less than usual. Having said that, we imagine most riders stuck to Friday's track for most of the day as extra practice time has been allotted later in the week for Sunday's track. This is the only timed training session of the weekend though so if you want to know who's looking fast before any points get awarded, the results are below:


Elite Men:

1st. Loris Vergier - 2:58.839
2nd. Matt Walker +1.117
3rd. Reece Wilson +1.457
4th. Troy Brosnan +1.531
5th. Danny Hart +2.187
6th. Dakotah Norton +2.811
7th. Charlie Hatton +3.141
8th. Finn Iles +3.186
9th. Loic Bruni +3.366
10th. David Trummer +3.642


Elite Women:

1st. Marine Cabirou - 3:33.918
2nd. Monika Hrastnik +0.994
3rd. Eleonora Farina +6.339
4th. Tracey Hannah +28.522
5th. Sandra Rubesam +31.566
6th. Camille Balanche +32.798
7th. Mille Johnset +3:25.175
8th. Tahnee Seagrave +5:24.936
9th. Nina Hoffmann: +15:44.682



Junior Men:

1st. Luke Williamson - 3:07.854
2nd. Goncalo Bandeira +2.293
3rd. Luke Meier Smith +2.304
4th. Antoine Rogge +2.857
5th. Seth Sherlock +5.107


Junior Women:

1st. Leona Pierrini - 4:15.832
2nd. Ella Erickson +10.991

Full Results

Elite Men


Elite Women


Junior Men


Junior Women



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86 Comments

  • 52 0
 Loris Vergier - Timed Training 2020 = 2:58.839
Loic Bruni - Final 2019 = 2:58.839

What are the odds?? Big Grin
  • 13 0
 One in a thousandth.
  • 2 0
 @DirtyDee: a thousandth in one?
  • 1 0
 LOL, the crazy 2020 Wink
  • 3 0
 Well that confirms it for me... The World's router needs resetting. Evil
  • 3 0
 @Dropthedebt: Whoever is running this simulation has fallen asleep.
  • 5 0
 @Dropthedebt: Has anyone tried turning 2020 off and then on again?
  • 3 0
 @commental: the boss pissed in the reset button and puked Stella and kebab on the controls. The whole thing is now running purely on artificial unintelligence as we peer through the glass walls of the impenetrable chamber at his body lying lifeless on the floor.
  • 47 0
 Reece is on pace!
  • 8 0
 I can see him on the podium either this weekend or next (or both). He'll be riding confident after worlds!
  • 2 0
 @thewho07: It is a mental game as much as anything to break into that top group. I totally agree he can be a very real threat especially if it gets wet again like I have heard it is supposed to.
  • 5 0
 Confidence is a very powerful force, it can push people to places they've never gone before. He's on fire! GOOD LUCK!
  • 2 0
 Guess Reeces after putting together his Pieces Wink
  • 5 0
 Yep, very much proving it wasn't a fluke, fastest at the first two splits. Him stepping up and demolishing the field at Leogang was one of the coolest things that's happened in DH since Pierron stepped up seemingly out of nowhere to blow everyone else out of the water several times in a row a couple of years back. Stoked to see another rider up there as a real challenger for the podium.
  • 32 0
 Very interested to see how Tahnee makes up 5 minutes come friday
  • 18 0
 Aarons got to make up 9!
  • 15 24
flag rockchomper (Oct 14, 2020 at 8:11) (Below Threshold)
 Timed training doesn't really mean anything...
  • 52 0
 Hopefully she doesn't get off her bike and check lines during her race run.
  • 9 0
 @rockchomper: winning practice is all some racers have. Don't debase them Wink
  • 4 0
 @rockchomper: Joke/your head
  • 3 0
 @rockchomper: yeah but sense of humour helps
  • 6 0
 @WasatchGT: @WasatchGT: She did last week. She was studying the track closely for almost a minute!
  • 19 1
 It's interesting to see Gwin having been so dominant on YT and Specialized and now is having a hard time breaking the top 10 since on Intense. I realize there is probably more going on behind the scenes than we can see, but it's still a bummer.
  • 13 1
 I know man. It’s so not intense.
  • 20 1
 He always does this in practice. I mean, he obviously was doing some track review with 6+ minute times in segments 3 and 4. Pretty sure he had a number of top 10 results last year but I do have to agree with you that the move hasn't met or exceeded expectations. And I hope he doesn't pull the "I haven't raced much this year" because nobody really has. And if they did race, it was because they made the effort to do so and he could have done so too.
  • 8 2
 Injuries (thumb) last year (I believe first season he's had a nagging injury).

So far only one race this year and it was in a mud bog. He's addicted to being in SoCal so as he said in an interview at Leogang he hasn't ridden mud since the world cup last year (not good training).

If Maribor stays dry he'll likely post some top 5's or fight for podium/wins. If it's muddy, he'll probably be 5th-15th place come finals.
  • 3 7
flag jambarbeast (Oct 14, 2020 at 9:04) (Below Threshold)
 He might as well not race. 9 minutes lead is gonna be tough to overcome!
  • 4 1
 have chatted with friends quite a bit on this. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that it may have to something to do with simply not jiving with the bike. I'm no expert, but I feel like we haven't seen Gwin racing like himself since transitioning over to Intense.

It also has to be hard transitioning over to a smaller factory team (vs. Specialized, Trek). There is probably less support and fewer resources overall. I'm not even going to get into the team ownership stuff, because I know nothing about it - it just can't be easy to manage it all.
  • 4 1
 Gwin had one healthy race on Intense, and that was here (Maribor) and he got 6th. Everyone was speculating on why he did so "bad", and its entirely possible it was the bike. I don't doubt that the M29 is a fast bike, but might not have jived with Gwin, which would explain his new mullet.

However, if his one 6th place is a bad result, and we are looking to blame equipment, then the biggest equipment switch he did was to Kenda tires. That makes much more of a difference than anything else nowadays. He wasn't on blacked out Onzas or Maxxis.
  • 4 0
 To us lot watching from the outside it certainly looks like it could be the bike. Moir flying on Canyon now, and Neko had some very good WC results on YT....
  • 16 13
 You muppets seriously think it’s his bike lol

It’s called trying to keep up with faster, younger, guys, crashing your brains out.
  • 5 1
 @jclnv: You seriously think it's because he's crashing? Who's the real muppet
  • 8 0
 @thewho07: There was an interesting interview with Moir a few months back where he mentioned he did a time trial at home using the M29 with the previous components and compared it to the M29 with the new components and he stated the previous bike was seconds faster. This easily could have been an issue with him not being comfortable with the new components (even though Fox gets along with many riders). Quite interesting podcast.
  • 3 0
 @thewho07: "crashing" as in "cranks breaking"
  • 5 0
 @RCederholm: Remember that, wasn't it something like 6 seconds faster (over a WC distance) on the same frame with different parts. Makes sense, because Jack was very fast on that original M29.
  • 6 0
 @thewho07: Gwin is riding a brand new prototype frame this year that he has worked with Jeff Steber to develop over the off-season. Jack was already flying with multiple podiums including a 2nd place at Fort William in 2018 on the M29 and a top 10 on the Carbine for the EWS New Zealand that same year. Last year he crashed hard during team camp re-injuring his shoulder.
  • 9 0
 @hamncheez: I’m going with the tires Kenda are garbage
  • 2 0
 @RCederholm: yeah Jack has pretty much only ridden sram/rockshox his whole career except for last season. He definitely prefers it, I mean his canyon setup is all that again and he's loving it
  • 6 0
 @Artikay13: Jack must not read PB comments. If he did I would throw that Sram away and have Fox and Deore on his bike.
  • 2 1
 @creativefletch: Just because he had input in the design with Steber doesn't mean that will be the best/fastest bike for him. I think there is a lot of arrogance to go to a brand and re-design things as if you know better than the engineers. Certainly a rider's feedback is useful and they can time it and know what works against the clock but I think he often gets in above his head on the R&D side and the racing suffers as a result.

Plus he has the extra hassle of running the team. Why pay someone else who has been managing riders/teams since the start of DH mountain biking when you can do it just as well yourself, while training, racing and developing frames, tyres, grips, brakes, drivetrains etc... $$$$$$$$$$$$
  • 2 0
 On the flip side, AG's value decreased in the fantasy league. A dark horse, perhaps? Wink
  • 13 0
 Really happy to see Jack Moir back (I think from injury?) and doing so well, in both enduro and dh. Insanely capable and stylish rider, up there with the true elite all-rounders who are a threat for the podium in both disciplines.
  • 7 0
 Yeaaaaaaah!
  • 1 0
 SHARK ATTACK IS BACK
  • 14 0
 Loris is so quick this year!
  • 7 0
 I agree He seems more focused and serious in his interviews this year. If he stays on his bike he wins it.
  • 4 0
 @Dangerhill: I'm almost bummed he hasn't had a chance to race more this season. I hope he can carry the momentum into next year so we can see some awesome racing.
  • 3 0
 It's interesting how when I'm riding with friends on Strava and we hammer a segment and are within 3-4 seconds I basically assume we all got the same time and nobody's faster. Then you see these results and you think wow, so and so smoked someone who's in like 20th place. But in reality, those pros riding for fun, even pushing can basically follow each other down a trail and are barely any different (GPS vs. time chips aside). Its crazy how close these guys are when you stop and think about it.
  • 7 1
 Is Miriam Nicole racing? Did she just not do timed training?
  • 4 0
 Same question, did a bunch of the women sit out timed training or are there really only 9 racers?
  • 5 0
 Dang I would really like to see Gwin on the podium. The team seems like it really a needs it.
  • 4 0
 whats the word on Martin Maes? I thought he was giving a go this round
  • 2 0
 he is there and racing, see WynTV
  • 2 0
 Would be nice if someone found an entry list...Already been searching, but failed so far :o
  • 2 0
 @ThrillPhil46:
Here the entry list - almost 60% of all riders were not in timed training.
chronorace.blob.core.windows.net/webresources/20201014_dh/entrylist.pdf
  • 3 0
 Is anyone able to explain this 2 races/tracks thing? Is there a race next couple days on this track then one after?
  • 7 0
 Race on Friday, then slightly different track for the race #2 on Sunday.
  • 3 0
 @Bomadics: cheers
  • 1 0
 @Bomadics: not the hero we want, the hero we deserve
  • 5 0
 THE BULLDOG! Wink
  • 3 0
 Anyone know if Cathro made it there?
  • 1 0
 Not to race but I think he said in Instagram he was there to do some filming and support some privateers.
  • 2 0
 Not to ride but he’s supposed to be there. God I want him to be!!!
  • 1 0
 @Bigwill13: he is supporting some guys and lent his bike to 2 riders who’s bikes have not shown up yet, he is not allowed to race, to much risk, he is fliming
  • 11 0
 He's there but not racing.
From his insta:
Bad news! After check-ups on my neck it has been decided that it would be too risky to race the upcoming world cups. If I was to have another crash on my head there would be a much higher chance of damaging my spinal cord which would potentially cause paralysis. Not a risk I or anyone else should be willing to take. A bit more time and I’ll be good to go! #WTT2021

I am out in Maribor with the dream team (@maxxrendall & @angushardie) and we’ve got some sick plans. We’ll be helping out Scottish privateers @jamie_edmondson and @mikaylaparton with pit space, wrenching and trackside line info while documenting their races.

Also, in a wild turn of events, racers @oliverzwar and @benzwar have lost their bikes on the flight over to Maribor so I’ve lent them my bike until their’s arrive. Will be so cool seeing George actually getting ridden at a World Cup!

We’ll be documenting it all for Walk The Talk as well as producing some @pinkbike RAW and Inside The Tape vids.
  • 1 0
 According to his Instagram, he's there but won't be racing until 2021 becuase he doesn't want to reinjure his neck.
  • 2 0
 @thingswelike: Sweet, thanks everyone.
  • 2 0
 @christiaan: so excited for Cathro vision!!!!!!
  • 5 3
 Aaron Gwin is really going to need to ride INTENSE to make up for those times.
  • 2 0
 Only 41 riders? How can that happen?
  • 3 0
 Travel restrictions. A lot of people wouldn’t be able to get back home in a timely manner so they said eff it for 2020. Sam Hill for one...
  • 3 0
 There'll be more than those 41 for sure... Coulanges, Maes f.ex. are definitely there to race
  • 1 0
 Here the entry list - almost 60% of all riders were not in timed training.
chronorace.blob.core.windows.net/webresources/20201014_dh/entrylist.pdf
  • 2 0
 Timed training online before any course preview? Man what a Season
  • 2 0
 Thank you PB for posting the results in this format!
  • 3 0
 Dakotah freakin Norton!
  • 3 2
 Timed training doesn’t mean nothing
  • 17 0
 Looks like a timed training session
  • 1 0
 Can't believe you beat me..... TTMN!
  • 1 0
 Nuffink
  • 2 1
 Looking forward to this weekends lottery.
  • 1 0
 Let's go Dante!!
  • 1 0
 Don't smoke the Skante!
  • 1 0
 Go Finn!
  • 1 0
 Let's go cananda

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