Review: Fezzari's New 2021 Delano Peak

Jul 22, 2020
by Mike Kazimer  
The Delano Peak is Fezzari's take on a modern trail bike, a brand new addition to their lineup that has 135mm of rear travel, a 150mm fork, and 29” wheels.

My carbon-framed test bike came with the Elite build kit, which includes a Shimano 12-speed XT drivetrain and 4-piston brakes, a 150mm Fox 36 Factory Elite fork, Fox DPX2 shock, and Stan's Flow wheels. Fezzari is a consumer-direct brand, but they offer a level of customization that's similar to what you'd get if you purchased a bike from a shop. Things like dropper post and stem length can be adjusted to suit the rider's height, and in my case I was able to run a 200mm PNW Components dropper.
Delano Peak Details

• Wheel size: 29"
• Frame construction: carbon fiber
• Travel: 135mm (r) / 150mm (f)
• 65- or 65.4-degree head angle
• 434mm chainstays
• Threaded bottom bracket
• Weight: 31.4 lb (w/o pedals, size large)
• Price: $4,619 USD as shown
• Frame only: $2,299 USD
www.fezzari.com

There are also several different tire options – I went with the Maxxis Assegai / Dissector combo, a pairing that's become quite popular in the Pacific Northwest, for good reason.

The Delano Peak Elite is priced at $4,499, and that PNW Bachelor price bumps that number up by $120. The base model version of the bike is the $3,499 Delano Peak Comp, which is spec'd with a DVO Diamond fork and Topaz shock, and a Shimano 12-speed drivetrain. The top-level Pro model goes for $6,499, and has a SRAM X01 drivetrain, ENVE's AM30 carbon wheels, and SRAM Code RSC brakes.


bigquotesIt's an easy bike to get off the ground, whether that's to pop off the lip of a jump, or to skim over a chunky section of trail Mike Kazimer





Fezzari Delano Peak review


Construction and Features

Last year when I reviewed the La Sal Peak, the Delano Peak's longer travel sibling, I mentioned that I wasn't a fan of the kink in the top tube. It didn't do anything to affect that bike's performance, but there was something about it that made me twitch a little. That kink is nowhere to be seen on the Delano, which makes the front of the bike much more pleasing to the eye.

The bike's carbon frame has room for not just one or two but three water bottles – eat your heart out Mike Levy. Yes, one of those mounting points is under the downtube, so that doesn't really count, but still, there are plenty of options for attaching water bottles, tubes, and tools to the frame.

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There's room for holding two water bottles inside the front triangle on larger sizes.
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The chainslap protection isn't the best - the ridges aren't that tall, and the material isn't that all soft.

Fezzari worked hard to keep the standover height as low as possible, and to make sure that riders would be able to run dropper posts with as much drop as they wanted. Even a size small, which has a 400mm seat tube length, has enough room for 300mm of post insertion.

There's internal cable routing for the dropper, derailleur, and rear brake, although it can take some fiddling to keep things quiet, since there aren't any guide tubes to prevent the housing from slapping against the inside of the frame. Other details include SRAM's Universal Derailleur Hanger (UDH), a threaded bottom bracket, and ISCG-O5 tabs.


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Fezzari Delano Peak review


Fezzari Delano Peak review

Geometry & Sizing

The Delano Peak's geometry numbers aren't all that different from those of Fezzari's 150mm La Sal Peak, a reflection of how the slack head angle trend continues to trickle down into the trail and downcountry categories. With a 150mm fork the head angle is 65 degrees, which can be steepened to 65.4-degrees, a move that also allows the bike to accept a 27.5 x 2.8” tire.

The reach on a size large is 480mm, and the seat tube angle is relatively steep 77.5 degrees. All of those numbers fall squarely into the 'modern' category, in line with what we're seeing quickly become the norm for an all-rounder like the Delano.


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Suspension Design

A tried-and-true Horst Link suspension layout takes care of the Delano Peak's 135mm of rear travel. Anti-squat sits at 102% at sag, and decreases as the bike goes through its travel. The leverage curve is regressive up to the sag point, and then it's progressive for the remainder of the travel, going from a leverage ratio of 2.8 at sag to 2.31 at full compression.



Specifications
Price $4619
Travel 140mm
Rear Shock Fox Float DPX2, 210 x 50mm
Fork Fox 36, Performance Elite, 150mm
Headset Cane Creek 40
Cassette Shimano XT, CS-M8100, HG+ 10-51T, 12 Speed
Crankarms Shimano XT, FC-M8100
Bottom Bracket Shimano BB-MT800
Rear Derailleur Shimano XT 12-speed
Chain Shimano CN-M7100
Shifter Pods Shimano XT 12-speed
Handlebar Fezzari FRD Charger35, alloy
Stem Fezzari FRD Charger35
Grips Ergon GA-20
Brakes Shimano BL-M8100, 4 piston, 180mm SM-RT86 Rotors
Hubs Stan's Neo
Spokes Sapim Race 14G
Rim Stan's Flow S1
Tires Maxxis Assegai 2.5" / Maxxis Dissector 2.4"
Seat Ergon SM Stealth
Seatpost PNW Bachelor 200mm with Loam Lever


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Test Bike Setup

Other than swapping out the grips and installing a 40mm stem I didn't need to do any other parts swaps to get the bike ready to rally.

After a few rides I swapped out the .6in volume spacer for a .86in spacer to gain some more end stroke ramp up. That spacer helped out, and I ended up running 220psi in the DPX2 for 14mm / 28% sag.

Up front, I ran 87 psi in the Fox 36, with the following compression and rebound settings (all clicks counted from closed): HSC: 4, LSC 10, HSR 5, LSR, 5.

Testing took place in Bellingham, Washington, with the full spectrum of early summer conditions, from drizzly and muddy to dry and dusty.


Me.
Mike Kazimer
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Age: 37
Height: 5'11" / 180cm
Inseam: 33" / 84cm
Weight: 160 lbs / 72.6 kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @mikekazimer


Fezzari Delano Peak review

Climbing

The Delano Peak is an extremely easy bike to get along with. The climbing position was upright and comfortable without being cramped, and I didn't ever feel like I was fighting to navigate through tighter section of trail.

This is a bike that feels lighter than it actually is – I didn't put it onto the scale until I was done with testing, but I would have guessed it was easily a pound or two lighter than what the scale showed. Gram conscious rider could easily shave weight by swapping out some of those aluminum parts for carbon, but there's really no need – as it is, the Delano feels well suited to long trail rides with lots climbs and descents.

I did make use of the compression lever on the DPX2 on the climbs, and on more rolling terrain as well. In the fully open position the Delano Peak's suspension is fairly active, manners that used to go hand in hand with a Horst Link suspension design, although that's changed in recent years as engineers get clever with their pivot placements.


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Descending

The Delano Peak's geometry felt very familiar, likely due in part to the fact that those numbers are nearly identical to the Norco Optic I've been using this year as my personal test sled. The Delano Peak has 10mm more travel at the front and rear, but the fact that the reach, head angle, and chainstay length are nearly identical meant that I didn't need to re-train my brain to get accustomed to the handling.

Slower speed, technical puzzles are where the Delano Peak felt most at home, those awkward bits of trail where you might need to do a little rear wheel lift here, and a shimmy around a tree there to get through without dabbing. It's an easy bike to get off the ground, whether that's to pop off the lip of a jump, or to skim over a chunky section of trail. That trait allowed it to perform well on steep trails, as long as they weren't too rough – I never felt like I had to fight it to make a line choice change or switch my angle of approach when coming into a corner.

The DPX2 shock's compression tune felt very light, and just like on the climbs, I ended up spending a lot of time with the 3-position dial in the middle setting for more support, reserving the full open position for times when I wanted maximum traction and didn't mind the reduced platform. The open position can be fine tuned to add more low-speed compression, but I do think Fezzari could have gone with a slightly firmer tune without any issues. Up front, that new 36 was smooth and silent, and I didn't need to stray far from the suggested base settings to find a comfortable set up.

The Delano Peak's limits start to appear at higher speeds and in rougher terrain. 'Twangy' is the best adjective I can come up with to describe how the frame felt when things got extra-hectic. It's a little more country and a little less rock-and-roll than, say, the Nukeproof Reactor – there's only so far that it can be pushed before you're reminded that you're not on an enduro bike. Riders who are able to make better line choices and adopt a more energetic riding style will get more out of the Delano Peak than those who want to smash through everything.


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Fezzari Delano Peak review
Fezzari Delano Peak
2030 Santa Cruz Hightower
Santa Cruz Hightower

How does it compare?


The Santa Cruz Hightower is a close contemporary to the Delano Peak as far as geometry and intended use goes. The Hightower has a little more rear travel – 140mm vs. the Fezarri's 135, but both bikes come with a 150mm fork. The Fezzari has a 65-degree head, just .2 degrees slacker than the Santa Cruz.

The Fezzari wins the seat angle war, but the Highower's slightly shorter front center means that both bikes feel pretty similar when during seated pedaling. When it comes to efficiency, the Hightower feels a little calmer during hard climbing efforts, although neither bike feels like its sapping away too much energy on the climbs.

On the descents, the Hightower does a better job of handling bigger hits and remaining calm in rough terrain, due in part to the stiffer frame and the lower center of gravity. The Delano Peak starts to falter earlier than the Hightower – I felt like I was reaching its limit sooner than I did on the Hightower.

One area where the Hightower can't touch the Fezzari is the price – it's almost $1,000 more to purchase a similarly spec'd Santa Cruz.

While we're comparing bikes, let's toss the new Commencal TR into the mix. I've been able to ride the two bikes back to back, an exercise that makes it immediately clear that they don't really fit into the same category. I'd happily take the Meta TR into a bike park, to the starting line of an enduro race, or on a day of shuttling. With the Delano, I'd be more likely to grab it for a big trail ride, or for slower speed, techy adventures. The Meta was built for high-speed charging, while the Delano doesn't mind if you feel like taking it easy on an after-work cruise.

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Maxxis Dissector
Fezzari Delano Peak review
PNW Components Loam Lever

Technical Report

Searching for Silence: I spent a decent amount of time working to quiet the Delano Peak down. My first task was to keep the housing from rattling inside the frame. There was foam on the dropper post housing, but not on the derailleur or brake, so disconnected the lines, slid a foam sleeve over them, and then realized that the finned XT brake pads were making a racket too... I spread out the retainer that sits between the pads, which did help, but I'd be tempted to purchase some non-finned pads to make things even quieter, improved heat dissipation be damned.

Maxxis Assegai / Dissector combo: This has become my new favorite tire combo for summer riding in the Pacific Northwest. There's loads of grip from the Assegai up front, and the Dissector is predictable in a wide range of conditions while also being relatively fast rolling. Even when the summer rainstorms arrive it's still a viable option for wet weather riding – it's only when things get really steep and sloppy that something more aggressive in the back would be a good choice.

PNW Components Bachelor: A dropper post with as much travel as possible is a necessity on a bike with a steep seat angle, and in this instance I was able to fit PNW Components' 200mm Bachelor post. It was trouble-free for the duration of testing, and the Loam Lever remains one of the comfiest options on the market.



Fezzari Delano Peak review


Pros

+ Well spec'd for the price
+ Very versatile thanks to modern geometry


Cons

- Can feel out of its element on higher speed, rough trails.
- Cable and brake pad rattle take time to quiet down




Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesCategorizing bikes can be a challenging endeavor, especially now that we're seeing geometry numbers that used to be found on longer travel DH-oriented bikes trickling down to shorter travel models. Call it an aggressive trail bike, or maybe a shorter travel all-mountain bike; either way, the Delano Peak's well-sorted geometry and part spec give it a high level of versatility.

Some of the smaller frame details could use improvement, and riders in search of a mini-enduro bike should look elsewhere, but for rides that encompass a wide range of conditions – up, down, and all-around, the Delano Peak could be a worthy companion. 
Mike Kazimer








205 Comments

  • 105 2
 That base build is amazing. DVO suspension and full SLX with four pot brakes?! Two water bottles in the frame? Sold.
  • 14 0
 Frame only option also has my attention. YT, Marin, and other direct brands don’t seem to want to offer frames, unfortunately. You have to go to big brands and spend $3k+ if you want full carbon framesets.
  • 20 0
 @ninjatarian: For only $1200 more, the complete build seems like a no-brainer.
  • 17 9
 I would take the DVO with slx all day over the Fox xt combo.
  • 3 1
 What about the Horst Linkage? Having no experience on them (but hearing so many PB commenters deride them) how do they compare to DWlink or say the CBF on revel?
  • 5 15
flag nurseben (Jul 22, 2020 at 13:03) (Below Threshold)
 @BrianANC: Fezzari bikes ride fine, but nowhere near as refined as DW, so you get what you pay for ...
  • 9 15
flag nurseben (Jul 22, 2020 at 13:05) (Below Threshold)
 @ninjatarian: I bought a Signal Peak frame for a new bike build, when I went to sell the frame six months later I lost 50%, so buyer beware, resale is not that good.
  • 4 1
 Anyone else think this was going to be a free ride bike based on the mobile ad front page? A bike that is supposed to climb and descend well but is shown being pushed uphill by a rider with full face helmet. Had me all sorts of confused for a minute.
  • 9 2
 @nurseben: my experience is different. I rode DW bikes (many models) for four years before switching to Fezzari this year. I've honestly been blown away by the suspension performance of these bikes (Signal and La Sal, and a brief ride on the Delano in Sedona this spring). As someone who throttles their bikes on a daily basis, I'm also appreciating the relative simplicity of the the layout. While more complex systems certainly offer their own benefits, the extra pivots, hardware, and other bits end up being a bit of a liability IMO.
  • 26 1
 @nurseben: Buying carbon mountain bike frames as investment vehicles has its downsides
  • 4 0
 @nurseben: Sort of your fault isn't it? Find me one of the big boys that gives you 30 days to return it if you don't like it.
  • 2 0
 @BrianANC: My wife has the Fezzari peak 27.5+ and the rear suspension feels surprisingly amazing every time I happen to ride it, I'm sure this bike feels just as good
  • 3 0
 @TheOriginalTwoTone:

Fezzari 100% Satisfaction Guarantee
If for any reason you are not completely satisfied with your bike or accessory purchase, simply return it in new condition within the first 30 days and we'll promptly refund the full purchase price.
  • 16 0
 @BrianANC: The properties of a Horst, twin-short-link, etc. are not intrinsic to those layouts; they're the choices of the designers. A Horst could have the most or the least anti-squat on the market. So could a twin-short-link. Either one could have the most or least progressive motion ratio curve.

Horst properties are usually associated with Specialized, which, until recently, favoured low anti-squat, low motion ratios (high leverage ratios), and fairly flat motion ratio curves.

DW designs are all done by Dave Weagle. He tailors them to customers' requests, but he definitely imparts his personal preferences on all his designs, so it's not surprising they feel similar.

CBF designs follow the same pattern: Chris Canfield has very specific ideas on kinematics and he creates those for his clients.
  • 2 0
 @nurseben: If I recall correctly you got a Signal Peak but didn't like the geo so you put a 140mm fork on it? Not that there is anything wrong with that but it was basically a bike you never wanted but found a way to make it work.
  • 2 0
 @TheOriginalTwoTone:

Here's the warranty:

Fezzari will repair or replace, at its discretion, any Fezzari frame it determines to be defective for as long as the original registered owner owns the bicycle.

To register your bike, please click here.

LIMITATIONS
Paint finish, original components, and all Fezzari brand repair parts, replacement parts, and accessories are warranted to be free from defects in material workmanship for a period of one year from the original date of purchase. Bearings, bushings, and other frame hardware are wearable parts and have a one year warranty.

Normal wear and tear, claimed defects, and malfunctions or failures that result from abuse, neglect, improper assembly, improper maintenance, alteration, collision, crash, or misuse are excluded. The owner is responsible for all labor charges. Carbon mountain frames purchased prior to August 28, 2017 are covered by a five year warranty.

OTHER TERMS
Unless otherwise provided, the sole remedy under the above warranty, or any implied warranty, is limited to the replacement of defective parts with those of equal or greater value at the sole discretion of Fezzari. Fezzari is not responsible for direct, incidental or consequential damages, including, without limitation, damages for personal injury, property damage, or economic losses.

CRASH REPLACEMENT
We know accidents happen that may not be covered under warranty. In the event of a crash or other non-warranty situation, Fezzari may offer, at its discretion, replacement parts at discounted pricing.

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Seems odd when people want to bash options to the more expensive bikes available.
  • 3 0
 @kwcpinkbike: I don't think he was bashing them at all, he is bashing @nurseben for complaining that he sold the bike for 50% of retail. He noted that Fezzari has a 30 day money back guarantee, which basically no one else has. That's if you don't "love" the bike after 30 days of trail time send it back get your money back.
  • 3 0
 @kwcpinkbike: Why tell me, that was completely my point. He had 30 days to return it. Him losing money was his fault.
  • 4 0
 @BrianANC: nothing wrong with Horst link, it’s not the design, it’s how you use it... Or rather design it.
  • 2 0
 I've been on it for a few months, pretty rad bike! Impressed at how capable it is for $3500
  • 1 1
 @R-M-R: except that with a host link if you have lots of antisquat you get let's of pedal kickback.
  • 2 2
 @NoahColorado: I like Fezzari, but the suspension is not all that refined, bike finish chips easily, though they are light and stiff.
  • 1 2
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: feel free to buy one then, I learned my lesson, perhaps you’d rather learn by experience?
  • 2 1
 @jordanaustino: not exactly, I bought it as an all around bike, ride it in multiple configurations including 27+ 29, 29+, low bb issues with 27.5 killed that, tire run on 29+ killed that, and just overall ride quality was not great.

Riding a Trail Pistol now, much more durable, better suspension, more damp, and far better performance.

So yeah, it didn’t work for me AND I lost a bunch of money cuz resale sucks on Fezzari.

Your mileage may vary Wink
  • 2 0
 @clink83: which only matters really when climbing which also happens to be the gearing with the least pedal kickback.

You need to be not freewheeling for kickback to have any real affect.
  • 3 0
 @clink83: That's true of any system with a lot of anti-squat. Twin-short-link designs have a little more flexibility to decrease anti-squat late in the travel to minimize kickback, but that's essentially irrelevant because no one is pedaling while taking hits that use full travel.

As has been shown many times, recently, by myself and others, coasting kickback is nearly non-existent on any bike. If it does happen, it's not "all or nothing": you wouldn't experience the maximum possible kickback, you would experience only a couple of degrees, if it even occurs.

Pedaling feedback is definitely a real thing, though. As I mentioned, twin-short-link bikes can, but don't always, reduce anti-squat late in the travel to minimize this, but it's not very useful, as no one is pedaling beyond about 50% travel.

Bottom line: No, Horst and twin-short-link designs are not very different in terms of kickback.
  • 2 0
 @R-M-R:Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the single biggest, most general difference between short-links and Horsts is: AS pretty much always decreases past sag in a progressive linear type fashion on a Horst. Where on short-links AS doesn't necessarily fall off after sag (unless the designer makes it that way). So, this may be felt on the trail if you are on a steep climb and mashing. On a Horst you'll be deep in the sag and thus have less AS to help you. On a short-link you can still be fairly high on AS deep into sag and thus get a bit more "help". I've owned many of both type and in general the short-links do seem to be zippier climbers (not necessarily better). The Horst links typically seem to track the ground better on both the descents and when pedaling through chunk, and seem to maintain traction better under braking. Horst links have benefitted a lot IMO from steeper STAs as you'll sag less into your travel on steep climbs. Also if you don't run more travel than you need, and you run a proper spring and damper settings Horsts still climb quite well.
  • 4 0
 @MikerJ: Those generalizations have elements of truth, but it's far less clear-cut than that.

It's true most Horst designs decrease in a fairly steady manner throughout the travel. That's true of most designs of all sorts. Many designs have curves that get quirky in the higher (smaller) sprockets, such as rising anti-squat.

There's no reason a Horst will be deeper in the sag than any other design on a climb, so we can dismiss that.

If anything, twin-short-link designs often feature anti-squat that drops more rapidly than Horst designs. Support comes from the spring and the leverage curve, so while there may be a bit more or less bobbing while pedaling, the spring and leverage curve is still what keeps the rider up in the travel (or not).

If your twin-short-link bikes are "zippier" climbers than Horst bikes, it's probably because the former had higher anti-squat, not because of the layout. Same story with traction. Many Horst designs are found on old-school bikes drawn by old-school designers, so the old-school properties were imparted by the designer, not intrinsic properties of the linkage type.
  • 1 0
 @nurseben: I think 50% isn’t so bad. Depending on condition that’s what I would expect to pay for an used bike.
  • 1 0
 @ninjatarian: comencal offers frame only options.
  • 2 0
 @Im-not-very-clever: Too many people want 60-80% when there's no warranty.

Not worth the savings taking that risk.
  • 1 0
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: I agree completely. If I’m looking at $4k used or $5k new with warranty? Easy choice
  • 1 0
 @billyballa33: go and watch the Vital test video. They hammered the base model and could only fault the weak WTB rims. For a few $$ more you can up spec the wheels anyway. They said it was especially goid on off camber sections.
  • 2 0
 @SonofBovril: Agreed, forward-swinging Horst link bikes (Nukeproof, Fezzari and others) should be put in a separate category from rocker-link ones. Fezzari haven't quite figured out the kinematics side if things. The digressive leverage curve in the first segment of travel is old-school, it makes the bike want to wallow before hitting the abrupt ramp-up in the latter portion of the travel. This is a big part of why Kazimer felt a lack of support while climbing and high-speed descending. A coil shock or an air shock with fewer volume spacers (both offering more support earlier in the travel) would feel better on this bike than what was ridden, but it's not a great leverage curve altogether.
  • 1 1
 @Im-not-very-clever: that was frame and shock, fresh, and I was lucky to get that, too months of advertising, Most of the time a current model frame will get 60-70% on resale. You definitely don’t buy a Fezzari if you don’t keep bikes long.
  • 1 0
 @nurseben: Not that easy, people may advertise that price, doubt they are getting it.
When I sold my 4 month old Ripley, they were still in demand and hard to get. I got in on the first batch.
When I tried to take advantage of the demand, people just said they'd wait and get a warranty for a little more.
  • 2 0
 @grizzlyatom: I wonder if this is something you can tune with the topaz t3 shock, if the shock moves too quickly through its initial stages of travel, you can add a spacer to the negative chamber.
  • 1 0
 @BrianANC: You would be on the right track, to be sure. With this leverage curve the shock (damper shaft) actually moves more slowly through its initial stroke (which is why is struggles to generate any damping force), but you have the right idea. You can definitely get better results with more negative spring adjustability. It's worth noting that Sam Hill runs a meg neg on his Mega, and for good reason. You need that extra spring curve tuneability to mellow out the wavy leverage curve on these forward-swinging link bikes.
  • 112 22
 "Del ano" in Spanish is "from the butthole".
  • 57 0
 Does that mean Delano Peak is a volcano?
  • 70 0
 This is the type of info the people need.
  • 7 2
 Sounds very fitting then, there are numerous locals who have had issues with the durability of the La Sal frames.
  • 3 0
 Thank you
  • 25 2
 It's also the name of a very serious looking guy with a sweet beard: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Delano. He's the source of the name for a mountain in Utah, and this bike.
  • 6 0
 @digitalsoul:

Which models? I'm hoping the LSP was part of the learning curve for making a sturdy carbon bike. This frame 'looks' burlier and better aesthetically imo.

Some of the fastest locals I know are on the LSP.

I'll be lining up a demo of this one pretty soon.
  • 4 0
 @mikekazimer: Secretary of the Interior's outbox
  • 13 0
 Fezzari marketing director to the CEO, six months from now:

"North American sales are solid but for the LIFE of me I can't figure out why we haven't sold a SINGLE bike in Central or South America."
  • 3 0
 @Sscottt: when the hemorrhoids erupt.
  • 5 4
 Can we consider this as hate speech against the great Franklin Delano Roosevelt?
  • 32 0
 @mikekazimer: Fezzari won't earn my money until they name a bike after the most famous Utah mountain. Gobblers Knob.
  • 4 0
 @dagronslayer: oh that's one of many. I'm sure Utah has some real great mountain names to use. I want to see Mount Tukuhnikivatz used
  • 2 1
 @WasatchEnduro: dropping two-three pounds off the AF would be a welcome change.
  • 7 0
 @dagronslayer: what about Molly's Nipple
  • 3 3
 The name really makes sense for a bike that fugly
  • 5 0
 I don't think Fezzari are that ugly (anymore). Now that they don't use catalog frames anymore their bikes are pretty good. I happen to think Santa Cruz looks better, but this bike isn't bad by any means.

They also are somewhat following function over form. Two water bottles is a big deal for some people.
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: Or Bishop's Prick
  • 4 0
 @digitalsoul: I have a La Sal, love it but did need to warranty replcace the chainstays as the bearings wore out their fittings. Likely a tolerance manufacturing issue. Warranty replacements are fine thus far, and was easiest warranty I've ever filed.

Haven't had any durability issues of the crashing assortment. Has stood up to that just fine even though every time I crash my levers bash the top tube because of that silly kink.
  • 1 0
 So Del Taco is "from the taco"?
  • 1 0
 @RentalBike: even better, "The Del Taco" from Del Tacos menu, is translated to "the of the taco"
  • 6 1
 @mikekazimer: Read his bio. He tried (and succeeded in) destroying the nomadic tribal culture of Native Americans and (almost succeeded in) exterminating the North American Bison.

As a PC woke comment - should we support a bike that glorifies the name of an ignoble character?

Waki where are you?
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer: That’s not a real man, that’s a Will Ferrel character that was snuck into Wikipedia! ????
  • 2 0
 @rickybobby18: its the Mitsubishi Pajero all over again lol
  • 1 2
 @Geochemistry: it’s named after the mountain which is named after the guy.
  • 2 1
 @jordanaustino: I had a similar failure on my Signal peak, link wore out in a couple months, also had a chainstay pivot bolt fail in the first month. Great warranty, but not the best quality.

Light, cheap, durable.

Pick two
  • 2 0
 @nurseben: The Vital review claims they put over 10,000 feet of climbing on this and have had 0 issues.

Younger brands like Fezzari tend to get better with every new model released.
  • 2 1
 @jordanaustino: No Duh? Change the mountain's name too.
  • 3 1
 @hamncheez: Dude, I ride 10k in a weekend
  • 6 0
 @nurseben: I rode ru mum in a weekend
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez:

Yeah Vital posted a glowing review.

I thought the LSP rear end felt a little flexy, not necessarily a bad thing just an observation, and this model also has the same narrow, ovalized seatstays. Vital did mention the bike tracked really well in flat, rough corners, I think due to the flex in the rear end.

Anyways, for a frame up build there are a few more carbon options (ok, w/ alu rear ends) not far from this pricepoint w/ the Norco Optic and Guerrilla Gravity offerings at about $2500 w/ rear shock. And if YT ever starts selling frame only in N America I think we'll see another spike in those out on the trail.
  • 1 0
 @dagronslayer: but you can't bike on Knobbler's Gob
  • 1 1
 @hamncheez: after you rode your brother, that’s nasty!
  • 59 1
 Almost $1000 more to get a comparably specced Hightower? Try $1700? The base carbon hightower comes with a Yari and NX. It's not until the $5200 model that you get a comparable spec.
  • 19 3
 And then you're still stuck with a Reverb that no one will buy from you.
  • 7 3
 @stevemokan:
The new Reverb C1 is actually pretty sweet, I'm stoked with mine. 50+hrs so far and zero maintenance. That's more than I can say for any other dropper I've owned
  • 16 0
 @notthatfast: Man, that is some horrible experience if 50 hours counts as a win..

One of my droppers is 3 years without a service and the second one gets refreshed once a year to help the longevity (15min job - Bikeyoke)

Best of luck with the Reverb gotta break the bad luck finally.
  • 5 0
 @notthatfast: 2012 Kindshock drop zone still going with one bleed and some cleaning in those 7 years.

OG 160mm BikeYoke Revive feels new completely untouched for cleaning or maintenance for two years.


Reverb just just doesn't make sense for the consumer.
  • 1 6
flag notthatfast (Jul 22, 2020 at 14:34) (Below Threshold)
 @Plancktonne:
I've owned the bike for 50hrs of riding so far. Unless you've come up with some way to accelerate wear purely for the purposes of testing stuff to breaking point then I'm not sure what else you expect from me...
  • 5 0
 @notthatfast: They were just saying that 50 hours can't be considered a win. Not necessarily a loss. Also saying that if the old reverbs would bork in less than 50 hours, then they were total garbage. Which is the consensus I guess...
  • 1 0
 @fraserw:
50hrs is a win for me considering that for all of the sealed-cartridge posts I've used recently (PNW, Oneup, Race Face) I've had to remove & grease the sealhead at a minimum by this point. Sometimes a couple of times. While they're pretty simple posts and that's really all they ever need short of replacing the cartridge, it's still frustrating.
  • 3 0
 @notthatfast: greasing the seal head takes about a minute and about $0.30 worth of Slick Honey. Sending your reverb in to get the squish fixed takes three weeks and about $100.
  • 2 2
 @rickybobby18:
And if the new 300h service interval that SRAM claims turns out to be correct then it costs you roughly the same as a couple of cartridges over the same time period and you get to use a much nicer post...
  • 1 0
 @notthatfast: and the B series Reverb was meant to deal with the issues of the original. For those that have been burned by the inevitable Reverb sag and the cost of service relative to the time to commencing saggage..... always going to be a hard sell. I won't be going back.
  • 35 6
 I'd take XT over XO every single day. Dat base spec- rockin
  • 24 2
 This honestly strikes me as more of a Mike Levy bike than a Kazimer bike. But the base spec is incredible and making me question some decisions.
  • 23 1
 Gotta change that brand name.
  • 3 15
flag linden44 (Jul 22, 2020 at 11:56) (Below Threshold)
 @CaptainSnappy you must say the same thing about Norco then?
  • 11 0
 Name makes one think there's a 1987 Feiro underneath the paint and body kit.
  • 23 5
 Good value, but I still can't get past the name and the industrial design. They have made improvement in the look, but still not great. The company still sounds like it was named by an 8 yo, which it was..
  • 2 2
 I got one like the name. Fezzari, not fezzari
  • 1 1
 I for one
  • 14 3
 Agree about the name. Can't get past the name regardless of how good the bike is. Shallow? Yea probably. Still not buying it because of it though.
  • 3 0
 @salespunk Their bikes are pretty good, but totally agree with you regarding the name. A while back, I suggested to @Fezzari to have some sort of campaign or contest to rename the bike brand and/or company. I guess it fell on deaf ears.
  • 1 0
 Yup, weird name. If I didn't know about them and saw one I'd assume bikes direct updated their motobecane line or something. Viathon is a better name. Of course Walmart probably spent money testing names.

Their whole model of direct sales but custom fitted is great. You can custom build a commencals, but $$$.
  • 5 0
 Fezzari you don't like it
  • 7 0
 @kwapik: The suggestion didn't fall on deaf ears, we just decided to not follow it. We hear the name thing come up every so often, but we have decide to spend the time and dollars developing rad bikes and improving our customer service instead of a massive rebrand campaign. Who knows, maybe something will change in the future, but for now we are focusing on our products, customers, employees, and bike buying experience. - Tyler
  • 6 0
 @Fezzari: Just keep the name. Seems like the company is doing fine and your products are more widely accepted. I think you've past the point of no return. Great products always override a company's name.

I mean, people are putting Apples up to their ears - right?
  • 19 6
 I love how the core market of mountain bikes is over 30 lbs now. Bye bye weight weenies...hello real tires, suspension, and actual comfort. Still performs great.
  • 8 0
 It's about time! I'd rather have the option to buy a new bike with NO tires rather than some bullshit ardents or dirt spec nobby nics.
  • 3 0
 I was going to wait to get a new bike til they caught up to my 35lb 2016 Process... LOL
  • 8 0
 I really don't get the hate about its looks. It is a pretty standard profile that flows nicely from the top tube to rear stays, nothing spectacular but certainly not ugly. Compared to the current functional but saggy nappy look of the Santa Cruz profile I think it works.
  • 8 0
 Very progressive geometry, slack headangle, steep seat angle, lenghty reach, room enough for 2.6" tires, great value for money. Basically a slightly longer travel Norco Optic, whats not to love?
  • 12 5
 Yes, the Santa Cruz with comparable specs is over 1000$ more expensive. But the Santa also comes with pretty much the best warranty policy in the business and free bearing replacements for life. Value is not just the upfront sales price alone
  • 6 3
 Most people sell their SC Bikes after 1-2 yeara- so literally no real benefit here.
  • 6 1
 @NotNamed: Also bearings are not that expensive, it's not like free bearings applies to labor for putting them in. Not to mention they don't need replaced that often...

This is all coming from a Santa Cruz owner. I liked the way it rode, telling me that the warranty and bearings are worth $1000+ doesn't really hold water IMO.
  • 2 0
 @BullMooose: I know a guy with a 4 year old Nomad (I think? Maybe 3?) anyway, the paint started to come off and SC gave him a Bronson (could have had a Nomad but the new Bronson is closer to the older Nomad.)

Sadly, SC did make him saw the bottom bracket of the bike being replaced.
  • 2 0
 Fezzari has a lifetime warranty.

Have you ever gotten replacement bearings from SC? Here's the deal...they ship you a bag of sealed cartridge bearings (that would otherwise cost you about $30). You have to do the hard work yourself...either removing the old bearings and pressing the new ones, or paying a bike shop to do it.

So...pay $1000 (really $1700) to have a comparable bike and save $30 every two years on bearings when you still have to do the hard work of bearing removal and replacement on your own, or pay a bike shop. Not worth it in the slightest.
  • 1 0
 My first hand experience with Fezzari has been great. I cracked the chainstay on my La Sal Peak (totally my fault, I slammed it into a tree trunk that I didn't see). Talked to Fezzari and within 2 days they had shipped me a crash replacement at a very reasonable price. It arrives today. Just my 2c but so far Fezzari customer service has been spot on for me. Replacement chainstay arrives today.
  • 9 0
 They should update the la sal peak like this bike, 1 or 2cm more reach and lower the top tube seattube. This bike looks good too.
  • 9 4
 @mikekazimer man, you are running that 36 with a stiffer setup than some EWS Pro's I think (iirc JesseM's is very close to that if not a touch less) plus you have a ton of compression...that Grip2 has a lot of HSC be default. You sure that didn't contribute to the rough ride? You're a hell of a rider to push a 36 that hard. Maybe you need to be in an edit Wink

Fwiw Yeti/Pivot's etc 36 setup guide would have you running about 68PSI lol. Maybe that's more for us average Joes Smile
  • 11 0
 @Svinyard, I think you're looking at the suggested pressures for the 2020 36. For 2021, Fox recommends running 82 psi for my weight - a few pounds over that isn't out of the ordinary. Same with the compression settings - my setup is actually fairly neutral, and certainly not harsh.
  • 4 0
 Im probably you're quintessential average 74kg Joe and run a 160mm Fox 36 at 85psi with 2 spacers. I could probably run less PSI and more spacers but I like the linear feel and the support offered by 85PSI. But I also ride both LSC and HSC almost wide open. I also run far less tire PSI than EWS pros (typically 19PSI front), which probably compensates somes.

With less PSI, it dives too much when I run into stuff or brake too heavy, which as an average Joe, I tend to do a lot of.
  • 5 1
 @mikekazimer: Ah...you are very right, thanks for the clarification. What changed from 2020 to 2021 to allow such a significant PSI jump? Is there a new Air Spring in the 2021??
  • 2 0
 @Paddock22: Gotcha...are you on the 2021 fork as well? Are you ever close to bottoming out with two spacers and the stiffer setup??
  • 5 0
 @Svinyard: No, 2019 fork.
I'm never really close to bottom (probably on avg about 10mm left on most rides). When I do get close to bottom, it's usually an OH S**T moment. That last little 10mm has saved me numerous times.

Personally I like a supportive fork. I ride a lot of chunky, rocky terrain where I'm shifting my weight around a lot and I find that easy travel/movement up front is a disadvantage. Plus, as I try to get better at cornering (hard on the front brake, release, turn) I find that without the extra PSI, the fork dives too much. Also, I've found that with longer/slacker, I have to really weight the front of the bike or I lose traction on Colorado's loose marble turns.

I'm probably giving up some small bump compliance with this setup but I do run lower front tire PSI than typical, which gets some of that back.
  • 1 0
 @Svinyard 2021 GRIP2 has much less HSC than the previous version.
  • 2 0
 @Paddock22: Just wanted to say that your logic in setting up your fork is exactly like mine. I'm 72 kgs and I run 85 psi with 1 volume spacer, fully open compression in my 2016 RS Yari for the exact same reasons.
  • 2 0
 @PhillipJ: that's not it. Yes the grip2 vvc damper hsc maxes out at far less than the old grip2 however when it is fully open it is right around the same. The difference comes down to a different lower leg design which allows for higher air volumes as well as a different negative chamber. With the less ramp due to additional air volume as well as (fox claims, though I'm somewhat skeptical on the efficacy) lower pressures due to the new bleeders in the lower legs and the different negative spring you need higher pressures in he positive chamber.
  • 8 2
 I presume the xt brakes had their usual wandering bite point. Given it’s not mentioned have they finally fixed it or have testers just given up and assume we know the bit point will be all over the place?
  • 9 0
 It's not wandering bite point. It's self-regulating progressive engagement adjustment.
  • 4 1
 Honestly, I think the wandering bite point is due to a huge issue in ability to get all air out. I haven't had the bite point wander on mine in a few years but it requires some serious work when bleeding, and I top off after the first few rides with new bike. Not saying that it's acceptable but I've apparently gotten rid of it.
  • 1 0
 @jordanaustino: You could be right about that. I haven´t bled my Saints in ages and now for the first time felt the bite point moving a little, but it has only happened once so far so I didn´t touch anything, yet
  • 2 0
 @jordanaustino:

My 8120s got wandering bite points after a month of riding or so. Bleeding them worked for another month. Not to mention the levers are made out of stamped steel with the strength of warm butter. I bent 2 levers in the first month of ownership just handling bikes, not even falling. I must not be the only person because replacement levers were unobtanium and I had to buy complete lever assemblies.

Just ended up buying a set of code RSCs and haven't had an issue in 2 months. Sram brakes use to be trash, but since the guide came out sram got better and Shimano got to 4 digit numbers and got worse.
  • 5 0
 @mikekazimer Why mention the Optic then not give a comparison since it's so similar.
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer As a 2020 Optic C2 owner I'd be real curious to know you thoughts on how this and the Optic compare. You definitely notice the travel (or lackthereof) on the Optic when things get fast and hairy but I would still say it feels relatively planted.
  • 1 0
 @mackg

hey big mack... how does the Optic climb? It seems like the reviews have been mixed on that, though everyone seems to agree it descends great.
  • 2 0
 How is the bike so heavy with that spec? I built up an Evil Wreckoning this winter with mix of SLX/XT 12, Push 11-6, Ohlins RFX36 Coil, DT E1900 with ratchet conversion and Cushcore plus Saint Pedals and the thing weighs 32lbs on the money for a much burlier bike.
  • 2 0
 Too bad about the rattling. This is what Fezzari says on their website:

"Will the internal cable routing rattle inside the frame like other bikes?

No. We specifically engineered the Delano Peak to minimize cable slap by utilizing our adaptive, future-proof, and rattle-free CleanCatch™ cable management system. The chainstay has internal molded cable routing to the rear derailleur. This makes for easy maintenance and a quiet ride."
  • 4 0
 wow MK and PB!!!. thx for a good review.. good to see an “ off” brand bike w/such good performance...
  • 4 0
 Looks like a great ride, but I think Fezzari should offer an Alu version for under the 3K price range.
  • 7 3
 Looks like a low poly rendering of a Stumpjumper.
  • 2 0
 Ah man I was starting to get serious about a revel rascal... my only concern with this bike is the Horst Link. Anyone have input?
  • 4 0
 I've owned a bunch of bikes, CBF is the only one I like better than DW link. I like VPP better the Horst. Thing is everyone wants something different their bikes.
  • 1 0
 The Rascal is the ticket. The only thing that sucks is the name...its bad. Itll be as good going down as the Horst but pedal better I bet.

Bros -"Hey what bike is that?"
You- "Oh hey, yeah it's a Rascal"
Bros -"Wait like a Grandma's electric scooter"
You- face palm>
  • 2 0
 If you can afford the Rascal, get the Rascal, or a GG bike Wink
  • 3 0
 Finally a Fezzari that doesn't look like it was used in head-on crash testing.
  • 1 1
 There is a reason these are cheap - and it has to do with the Chinese manufacturing. Poor carbon layups, especially on the seams. No inserts for internal routing.

Until Fezzarri stops cutting corners, actually does their own engineering and QA - and move their manufacture to Taiwan or Vietnam - they will continue to have these issues - and once they do fix them their frames will cost $500-$600 more
  • 5 0
 Hey Josh- it looks like the first time this comment was made it was downvoted several times so it is now down in the “below threshold” section at the bottom of the comments. I’ll post my response and invitation again here.

Hey Josh, It looks like you are just up the road from us in Salt Lake. Come swing down sometime, i'd be happy to show you around, offer a few insights on our layups, engineering, manufacturing, and maybe even pull back the curtain a bit more on some of our factories. I'm also happy to further explain the business model of direct sales and how we are able to offer the cost savings. When works best for you? - Tyler
  • 3 0
 ...which isn't a bad thing at all.
  • 4 1
 what is this? a good looking Fezzari?! IMPOSIBLE
  • 2 0
 @mikekazimer how does the Delano compare to the Optic? I feel like the Optic punches well above 140/125mm...
  • 2 0
 It seems pretty similar to the Orbea Occam as do the comments on the review...
  • 2 0
 A buddy of mine just reviewed this bike for VitalMtb and was super hyped on the SLX/DVO build, especially for the price.
  • 2 3
 I think a good way to look at buying a Fezzari is to use a car anaolgy:

So you're looking at two cars, a Toyota Sienna and a Kia Sedona. Both are very similar vehicles, the Kia is made in an old Toyota plant that Kia re outfitted. You can order more of less the same options, the vehicles look similar, and they have similar designs.

The Kia is less expensive than the Toyota. The Kia does not have quite the same quality and it has a higher cost of ownership because it's not as reliable and it's less durable. When you go to sell these two vehicles, the Kia will have lost more value. Which one would you choose?

So yeah, Fezzari and other direct to consumer companies have been able to reduce costs in various ways and they pass those costs off to the consumer. The consumer gets to to decide if the cost/benefit is a good compromise for them.

I don't think anyone reading this post would ever conclude that a Fezzari is as good as a Santa Cruz, that would be silly, but the Fezzari may be good enough for most folks, and that's what Fezzari is all about.
  • 4 0
 So I'm assuming you have data on failure rates for Fezzari, Santa Cruz, Kia, and Toyota by which you were able to objectively measure the quality of each manufacturer.
  • 1 2
 @Hayek: don’t be a clown, you know what I’m talking about, and sadly I do know about Fezzari? it was my “one and done” Kia mountain bike. It was my $1000 mistake, feel free to make your own mistake.
  • 9 7
 Ooooh, a 2017 Camber. Nice!
  • 4 0
 Fezzalized
  • 4 0
 I think the 2017 Camber had a slacker STA than HTA
  • 3 1
 But...was it easy to get along with?
  • 5 3
 The only problem with this bike company is the dumb name.
  • 2 0
 Interesting ... not a single 27.5" bike in their MTB line up.
  • 2 0
 Looks a lot like 2017 Stumpjumper 29", similar in a lot of things.
  • 2 0
 Stumpjumpers everywhere didn’t realize they had an Italian twin brother.
  • 2 0
 I think its a great looking bike.
  • 1 0
 Bike has 77.5 effective seat tube angle. Seat still slammed all the way forward on rails.
  • 1 0
 deal breaker - it has a bottle cage fitted so they've obviously compromised on the suspension design.
  • 2 0
 thats an EPIC bike
  • 5 4
 Nice frame but it reminds me of a 2016ish Camber.
  • 5 4
 Looks like a Specialized.
  • 2 0
 Looks like a stuntjumper
  • 1 0
 Those are totally Ergon grips
  • 3 1
 Vital loved the bike
  • 1 0
 I’d seriously consider this bike but that name kills it for me
  • 1 0
 How does the Dissector compares to a DHR2 on the back ?
  • 1 0
 Looks like that build come with Fox Performance, not Fox Factory.
  • 1 0
 It comes with the Fox Performance Elite suspension, which is the exact same as Fox Factory, less the Kashima costing. Structure and internals are completely identical, it’s just the good Kashima coating.
  • 6 5
 Not a looker imo.
  • 3 2
 Agreed. Fezzari is one of those companies that I feel has never had a good looking bike. I'm sorry to say, but aesthetics do play a role in whether people like a bike or not.
  • 3 0
 @defineindecline: Aesthetics are super important. These aren't minivans, they are sports cars. Who would want an ugly sports car?
  • 2 1
 Function over form. Room for two bottles and a frame bag.
  • 2 1
 great review
  • 2 5
 Fezzari claims on their website they are half the price of an equivalent bike shop bike. I pulled up the Cascade Peak at $3000 USD and a $6000 Stumpjumper. Spoiler alert, they are not comparable.
  • 4 0
 This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my case against The Never Ending story!
  • 1 1
 Whyte's that, you say?
  • 4 7
 Call me a skeptic, but I just have a hard time believing that you can feel the lower cg of the hightower out on the trail.
  • 8 1
 BB drop is one of the few places it's pretty easy to notice a 5mm difference in geometry. Kaz probably felt less stable on one bike vs the other, and looking at the numbers that COG and frame stiffness are two things that might explain the difference.
  • 2 3
 @brianpark: Oh for sure, bb drop makes a big difference in handling. But was he not referring to the low shock placement on the hightower? Why would he use the term COG then? Nobody says that when referring to bb height.

If he was referring to the handling effect of the bb drop/height, he would have said bb height, not COG.
  • 6 1
 I agree. I have a Megatower. What I would say is that there are a couple of bikes/brands that kill it in the mid travel category and the Hightower is one of them. May not be the bike for you, but anyone who says it isn't a fantastic mid travel 29er, has had a few too many falls without their helmet. If I was going to have 1 bike, the Hightower would probably be my first or second choice. No to mention the quality and warranty of SC is excellent.
  • 2 0
 @thegoodflow: A lower BB = a lower COG
  • 3 1
 @Paddock22: yeah, of course, technically it does. I don't think that's what he was referring to though.
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