Review: BikeYoke Revive 2.0 Dropper Post

Aug 23, 2021
by Dan Roberts  
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot

"We make stuff your bike wants" is how BikeYoke sells themselves. The company name comes from their beginnings making aftermarket links for suspension bikes, although nowadays they're more commonly associated with dropper posts. With the updated 2.0 Revive post the company set out to push the drop levels up way past 200mm.

Given that my swamp hoppers often demand the limits of seat post insertion, a post with 213mm of drop was a product right up my street, so I set out to put the Revive 213 through its paces.
Revive 2.0 Details

Diameters: 30.9mm & 31.6mm
Travel: 125, 160, 185 & 213mm (tested)
Weight: 648g post, 31g for remote (213mm drop, 31.6mm diameter, Triggy Alpha Short)
Price: Post from €335, lever from €45. As tested €470.
More info: BikeYoke


BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
The Revive valve, from where the post takes its name, is what sets this post apart.
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
Holding the valve open while the post is compressed, with either the supplied lever or a 4mm Allen key, removes any air from the inner tube that can cause the dreaded squish in a dropper post and takes the post back to feeling solid. It only takes a matter of seconds too.

Construction and Features

When they decided to enter the dropper post market, BikeYoke set out to solve the dreaded squishy, sagging post issue that occurs when air mixes with the oil in the post.

BikeYoke’s design removes the internal floating piston that many posts use, which reduces the number of parts, the complexity of the system and the need for minute control of the concentricity and surface finishes to ensure proper sealing. With no IFP the post also has fewer dynamic seals, which helps the post have a smoother action.

The twin tube design has the outer tube partially filled with oil, while the rest of the tube has pressurized air in it. The inner tube is completely filled with oil and houses the control piston, with its valve at the bottom of the post that is opened and closed with the remote lever. With the valve closed, the oil inside the post can’t be compressed and so locks the post in its position.

When the remote lever opens the valve and the post is dropped, fluid flows through the ports in the bottom of the inner tube and into the outer tube, compressing the air spring. That increase in air pressure, and spring force, is what pushes the post back up when the valve is reopened. With those ports between the inner and outer tube at the bottom of the post, there’s no way for air to enter the inner tube as long as the post is upright.

BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
The posts head uses a two bolt design that is sturdy and offers a good range of adjustment for the saddle position and angle.
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
The lower mechanism is sturdy and can rotate fully to help with finding the right alignment for the cable. Instructions for the cable length are also laser printed on the post itself.

BikeYoke admits that it’s impossible to avoid the mixing of the air and oil, even in their design. But their solution to this issue also laid out the name of the post – the Revive Valve. The valve, located at the head of the post, uses the supplied mini lever or a 4mm Allen key to hold the revive valve open while the post is compressed. This resets the post, removing any air inside the inner tube and putting it back into the outer tube, bringing the post back to solid again.

With such a design, BikeYoke claimed that their post is essentially maintenance-free. But they do concede that from time to time there are parts that will need to be serviced. However, they wanted to make this available to the average home mechanic, who doesn’t have all the post specific tools needed for a lot of the competition. You can still send in your post to BikeYoke, or one of its official service centres, to be serviced.

If you happen to have one of the original versions of the Revive, upon sending it in to be serviced the post will be updated with all the new Revive 2.0 parts for no extra cost.

BikeYoke Revive 2.0
The 2.0 stanchion and head, left, are now made from a single piece of material compared to the previous post, right.
BikeYoke Revive 2.0
The new actuator, right, is now CNC machined compared to the previous version, left, giving a smoother surface finish and bringing that smoothness to the post's actuation feel.

Swapping out the lower pins and bushing, as these are wear parts, is a 5-minute job and doesn’t need any opening of the hydraulic circuit.

Deeper, more involved service procedures are all well documented in videos and BikeYoke makes all the small parts available to buy as and when you need them, somewhat encouraging the home mechanic to have a go and keep on top of your dropper post maintenance. After all, it’s essentially a suspension item that goes up and down quite a lot.

For the 2.0 version, there’s a one piece, 3D forged stanchion and head. The posts also received increased bushing overlap to further increase the stiffness of the system, leading to a more rigid feel while also increasing the longevity of the dropper by allowing less wear and ingress of dirt and debris.

The pin seats for the keyways are now hard anodized and there’s a CNC actuator at the bottom of the post to improve the surface finish and smoothness of the post’s actuation. Longer saddle clamp bolts and an updated upper saddle clamp round out the changes.

BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
The Triggy Alpha is available in short, pictured, and long versions, both running on a cartridge bearing.
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
The whole lever can be rotated in the clamp to bring an additional adjustment for finding the comfiest position for the paddle.

BikeYoke also makes their own lever, the Triggy, available in a few different options. Often an overlooked item in the dropper market, the lever can make or break a post. The Triggy Alpha that came with our Revive is a clean and simple looking lever that actually packs a lot of features that make it work well.

It runs on a cartridge bearing to provide a stable and smooth platform for use. There are two mount positions on the lever, giving you room to move the whole lever more inboard or outboard on the bars. And the nicest feature is the ability to rotate the lever to allow you to find a comfy angle to actuate it with.

The cable is clamped to the lever by way of a bolt and washer, so if your post uses the formed gear cable end at the post, you’re all good. If not then it’s an easy trim to make it fit at the lever end. There are even two lever length options available to further tune the fit for your hands. And with 11mm of maximum cable pull, it’s a lever that can work for a host of other cable actuate posts on the market, with fine tuning possible by way of a barrel adjuster on the lever.

Options, Price & Availability

The Revive 2.0 dropper is available in 30.9 and 31.6mm diameters with 125, 160, 185 and 213mm drop options. There is also a Revive MAX, with a 34.9mm diameter, that has drop options from 125mm to 185mm.

The 125mm and 160mm drop posts start at €335, the 185mm at €375 and the 213mm drop post at €405.

Levers are an additional item, but come in two options for the Triggy Alpha, short and long costing €65 each, the original Triggy costing €45 and a 2x lever costing €60. There are also plenty of adapters for the lever to cover SRAM, Shimano, Hope, Formula, Magura, Trickstuff and Hayes brakes costing between €16 - €20, or there’s a simple BikeYoke band clamp fitment if you need or prefer for €6. There’s also the option to have titanium saddle clamp bolts instead of the standard steel bolts for an extra €25.

Included in the box is the post, remote and adapters if you choose them, a good length of inner and outer gear cable and end caps, the barrel cable clamp, air valve adapter and quick reset lever.

Currently all posts are in stock along with all the small parts and service items. There is a note to the delivery times taking longer than usual at the current moment.


Installation

There’s an in-depth manual accompanying the Revive, that goes through all the necessary steps in installation and pre-ride setup, as well as some popular troubleshooting questions and solutions. In reality, the Revive is very easy to fit. If you’ve fitted a cable actuated post before, then you’ve got no worries with this one.

There is quite some attention paid to the inner cable length for the Revive, needing a precise 17mm of inner sticking out at the base of the post. They even laser it onto the lower part of the dropper. But in reality, I’ve found it not to be a problem to just cut the inner cable to the length that keeps it taught, then adjust the tension on the lever barrel adjuster, much like what you'd do with other cable actuated posts.

There’s a small cylinder clamped to the inner cable that then attaches to the post’s actuator. Small details like Allen key fittings in the cylinder and grub screw are some of the nice touches that the Revive is littered with. The other end of the inner cable is clamped at the lever. The lower actuation mechanism on the post can also rotate fully to help with installation.

About the only headaches that could come from installing the Revive would come from your frame's cable routing itself. A bit of time should be taken in making sure you have the outer cable length long enough to allow the bars to spin enough in a crash but short enough to make for a clean cockpit setup. If you’re fine with changing an internally routed gear cable on your bike, then it’s a hassle-free job to fit the Revive.

Out of the box the post is pressurized to between 240-250psi, but if you prefer a different return speed then you can up that pressure to a max of 260psi. Air pressure adjustment is done via a valve under the saddle clamps and with the included air valve adapter to clear the reset axle. This can however be removed if you don’t have the air valve adapter, again with all the small parts being well made, easy to handle and having Allen key tool access.

Pre-first ride it’s good to give the post a revive, or more than one if the post remains a little spongy from transport. Once the post has its solid feeling and everything is fitted and adjusted to your preferences then it’s good to go.


BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot

Riding

Starting with the lever, the action of the Triggy is light and smooth. There’s no big force required to get it moving in the first place, and combined with being able to position and angle the lever just so it’s so easy to have it in a comfortable position that uses the reach and dexterity of your thumb.

The paddle itself, while made from just aluminum, is soft to the touch with the nice chamfered edges and the textured design helps to have a nice positive contact with the paddle every time. The post also has a light action. But perhaps its standout feeling is its smoothness, something that also stands out when you go ride other posts and come back to the Revive.

That smoothness is accompanied by a very solid feeling. The rotational play is minimal and the feeling of security when the post is at max up, max down or anywhere in between is very positive. So too is the sound and feeling of when the post extends fully. You know for sure it’s there and there’s no worries about sitting down on it as hard as James Stewart getting ready to seat bounce an SX triple. There was never a feeling of a break in period with the Revive. It’s been working smoothly and solidly from day one and hasn’t skipped a beat since then.

BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
213mm of drop initially took a minute to get used to.
BikeYoke Revive 213 Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot
But after a couple of rides it became clear that having the seat this far out of the way was wonderful.

Since the inception of dropper posts, their drop lengths have steadily grown and grown. And with the recent steepening of seat tube angles, these big drop posts have been making even more sense for more riders as the bigger drop moves the saddle more horizontally out of the way when compared to a small drop post.

Having a few friends that summit over 2m tall, I’ve become accustomed to watching them with 210mm drop posts for a while now, often having the mind trick of watching the saddle keep on rising past where you thought it might stop. And while I’m only 188cm tall, I still have some long legs.

The first few rides on the Revive 213 were a bit weird, but that was just me getting used to the saddle dropping so damn much. I can confidently say that now, after many months, I find it hard to go back to anything with less drop. The Revive has not only sold me on its performance and durability, but also, its sheer drop amount.

For the majority of the test, I had it fitted to a RAAW Madonna, and I also had it fitted to the Nukeproof Mega, which incidentally specs a BikeYoke post, the Divine. That meant the fitment and cable length were good to go and it was just a case of swapping the post. Both bikes are longer travel enduro bikes and often do as much up in a ride as down. But I can also see that many of the aggressive trail bikes could also benefit from a dropper with this much drop. Of course, taller people and those with long legs stand to benefit the most from this post, but if your frame and seat height can accommodate a post with this much drop, then I’d highly recommend it.



Maintenance

I’d already heard many good things about the reliability of BikeYoke’s posts before riding the Revive. And those rumours have been thoroughly backed up with a grand total of zero issues during the entire time testing.

Perhaps the only gripe I have with the Revive came from repeatedly having the bike on and off a shuttle trailer. BikeYoke does say that it is possible for the air and oil in the post to mix if the post goes upside down. That constant up and down from the shuttle trailer did have me needing to reset the post fairly often. While it’s really not a problematic procedure, the frequency of the resetting should be mentioned. Often it would need a couple of consecutive resets with a small pause in-between to allow the air bubbles and oil to separate before the post got its solid and positive feeling back. Again, not an issue at all, but something worth noting as the rest of the time spent with the Revive was a dream.

And so, with zero issues, there has been absolutely no need to go get my hands dirty and go inside the post. I’ve kept a good regime of wiping down the external wiper seal along with the fork and shock to keep it running smooth. There have been no sounds or odd feelings to indicate that a service is needed. Nevertheless, it’s a good idea to follow the recommended service intervals set out by BikeYoke.

Every 100 hours of use or every 12 months of use, plus before storage, you should perform a lower tube service and the cartridge checked for wear. It's also easy to swap out the lower part of the dropper to change between different diameters if you change bikes.

A full cartridge service is only recommended when you see signs of wear in a 100-hour service, or if there are symptoms that can’t be cured by a lower tube service or going through all the points in the troubleshooting documents. A full video of how to perform a full cartridge rebuild is available at BikeYoke’s website along with oil volumes and recommended oils and greases to use.

Either way, it’s nice to be comfortable in the knowledge that if and when the Revive does need a bit of work, I can head down to the workshop and do it myself with any small parts necessary possible to order from BikeYoke. No need to send it off elsewhere.



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How Does It Compare?

Dropper posts are really good nowadays, and there are a lot of them. Which is good, as they’re finding their way onto cheaper and cheaper bikes. And that price topic might be one of the ones to discuss when talking about a dropper that comes in at €470 for the post and lever.

After riding an array of posts from the likes of Fox’s Transfer, RockShox’s wired and AXS Reverbs, OneUp’s V2, Yep’s Uptimizer 3.0 and the host of cheaper posts out there, the BikeYoke Revive certainly sticks its head out in front of the competition and really does warrant that price tag.

Its smoothness is noticeably ahead of the competition and its solidness coupled with the fact that it’s feeling just as smooth and as solid as day one are its stand out features. Added to that the ability to have the post's action solid and squish free in a matter of seconds is a huge selling point over the less user serviceable posts out there. And with a catalogue of parts and detailed information on how to service the post for the budding home mechanic, it’s easy to see that you can keep this Revive running in top notch condition for a seriously long time, perhaps even though many a bike.

The lever’s nice little touches make it easy to get into a comfortable position, and its light action and throw mean that it’s never a chore to actuate the post. The Yep joystick remote is still a favourite, as you can flick it from any angle and even with your finger. But the Triggy Alpha is a good little lever and has remained solid and smooth for the entire test.

There’s plenty of room for saddle position and angle adjustment, something that has been a bit of a problem on a couple of Fox Transfers and bikes with steep seat tube angles.

Comparing to the other posts available with 200mm or more of drop, the Revive does have a pretty long maximum insert, so it’s good to check if your frame can fit a post this long, and it is one of the longest posts out there, but it is packing the most drop of all of them. Stack when compressed is around mid-pack but the minimum insert is one of the shortest out there for big drop posts.

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Pros
+ Biggest drop on the market
+ Outstanding solid and smooth feel
+ Incredibly reliable
+ User serviceable and small parts availability
Cons
- Long maximum insertion means that frame compatibility may prevent some riders from being able to run the 213mm version
- Comes at a premium






Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesThe dropper is often quite an overlooked piece of equipment on a bike. If a bike has one it’s good. If it doesn’t then it’s bad. That’s about as far as a lot of people get into the topic.

But when we look a little more in detail at the droppers available on the market today, in much the same way we would with say a fork, that’s where the BikeYoke Revive 213 really stands out above the rest. Sure, it goes up and down just like the rest and looks remarkably similar from the outside to much of the competition. Hell, it’s hard to tell most of them apart from 10 paces away.

But it’s fundamental design addresses two of the biggest problems in dropper posts, unwanted squish and user serviceability. Add to that its smoothness, solidness, durability, lack of maintenance and sheer amount of drop and I’m left having a hard time saying anything negative about this dropper.

I’ve no doubt in thinking that with everything that BikeYoke has done in the design, manufacturing, inventory of parts and user tutorials, this is a post that can go from bike to bike and keep that wonderful performance for a very long time.

Put simply, the BikeYoke Revive 213 is the best dropper that I've tested, so much so that I’ve already started kitting all my other bikes out with one.
Dan Roberts



Photos by Kifkat / Shaperideshoot


217 Comments

  • 123 1
 As an owner of an original Revive, I am not surprised by this glowing review. They are expensive posts, but I would have zero hesitation in buying another. If only everything else on my bike was as reliable.
  • 11 282
flag DoubleCrownAddict (Aug 23, 2021 at 0:57) (Below Threshold)
 But no 34.9? Don't even bother then. More and more e bikes are going 34.9, setting the trend. Soon it will be the standard.
  • 52 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: There is the Revive Max for 34.9
  • 140 2
 @DoubleCrownAddict:
Interesting you mention. We were actually the first company to have a dedicated 34.9 dropper post with a proper upper tubing size.
We introduced the REVIVE MAX in 2018:
www.pinkbike.com/news/bikeyoke-revive-max-dropper-349.html
I am not sure about the competition righ now, but last time I checked, competition does offer 34.9 versions here and there, but those are lacking the scaled sizing of the bigger diameter on the upper tube, which is a real shame. There is no real use for a 34.9 version if you don't don't take avantage of the space you are given.
  • 31 4
 it's soo good in fact that Rockshox copied it with their "vent valve" feature hahaha. and still doesnt work !
  • 94 9
 @DoubleCrownAddict: only you can type something as innocuous as this, but still come off as a total d-bag. you are incredibly insufferable.


also, learn to read you mong...
  • 28 8
 Rockshox's ass clown droppers should not never, not ever be included in a dropper review.
  • 15 1
 @Sacki: can't recommend your product enough. Thanks for your amazing customer service too! I've recommended your products to a lot of my friends who are now also happy customers. One of only a handful of companies that make amazing products and take care of their customers.
  • 69 2
 @Cshearmon:
Reading those kind of words are a big part of why we are doing our job.
Customer service is arguably the most time consuming part, and it can be really annoying and challenging at times, too, but it is super important and we know that it is. And in some cases it can also be very rewarding, mainly when you hear from custopmer that they actually value what you are doing for them.
In a world, where everythign seems to get digitalized and automated and anonymous, it just feels good to also be able to talk to real people, you know? I apprecaite any company that has a phone number, where, when you call, an actual person with a clue of what he/she is talking about takes off.

We are far away from being perfect, but we are doing the best we can to get closer to there.
  • 7 49
flag DHhack (Aug 23, 2021 at 7:26) (Below Threshold)
 @Sacki: my X-Fusion Manic 34.9 dropper has a upper tube diameter at nearly 29mm. It’s a heck of a lot more reasonably priced, 100% reliable (so far for me), and doesn’t go limp when it’s been upside down. It’s a real shame you don’t know what your competition, in this case a supplier for Specialized, is up to.
  • 4 0
 @jason475: They should. With all those bikes that come shipped with them OEM you should know what to expect and when to order a different post Smile
  • 43 1
 @DHhack: Sorry for not being fully up to date, on all the competition lately. That's why I said "last time I checked". I am not sure, how long the Manic with a dedicated upper mast for the 34,9 versions has been around, I do have to admit. Shame on me, if you want.
It was not yet there, even quite a while after we introduced our REVIVE MAX, though.
Speaking about suppliers for the big "S":
You may want to check out their US spec for the Stumpy Pro and be surprised what you find...
Not sure, where that antipathy for us is coming from. How do you define, what is reasonably priced? The priuce comes from more than just the prodcut, that you hold iny our hands, too. I am happy for you, when you are happy with your Manic, though. I am happy for anyone, who does not have problems -. and that counts for any bicycle product for that matter.
  • 2 0
 I have the original Revive (had some issues with scratched stantions) emailed BikeYoke - and Sacki responded!. Which is pretty great. Been running the same one on a variety of bikes since 2018 as my primary dropper. It's honestly never given me a problem. It consistently feels good.

Yes, if I store my bike front wheel up I'll more than likely have to reset it (like the reviewer saw). But, other than that it's a solid work horse.
  • 1 0
 if it weren't for the fact that pnw has a recycled post option to reuse perfectly good used posts with a year warranty, I'd still be paying out the nose for a revive. best post I ever rode, but man... the effect on the wallet...
  • 2 0
 @Ososmash: I have 185mm Revive’s on both bikes, a 31.6mm on my hardtail and a 34.9mm Max on my Levo. They’re both stored front wheel up vertically against a wall with the droppers depressed (saves space!) and as long as I don’t operate the Revive whilst the bike is parked like that, I don’t have to use the revive function.

If everything in MTBing was made as well then we’d spent a lot less time fixing/tweaking gear.
  • 1 42
flag DHhack (Aug 23, 2021 at 16:44) (Below Threshold)
 @Sacki: It’s the infallible German engineer shtick, I’ve dealt with enough of you guys over the years in the automotive world. Reasonably priced, you want to go with the median of the market, the average, you tell me. Your product has a novelty feature that seems to sell a lot less than comments on pinkbike would suggest, but it makes you proud and keeps food on the table so who am I to say anything?
  • 2 0
 I'm so disappointed with Rockshox. Paid big bucks for a Reverb AXS, lasted me only 3 months. Went back to a BikeYoke and was pleased to see I received the updated version. I've had 3 Rockshox Reverbs before, all had issues. I've had 1 BikeYoke before no issues at all plus hardly had to use the revive function either.
  • 1 0
 Indeed I have had my original Revive for 3 years now, the only other product I still have going strong for the same time are my Hope V4s. Get what you pay for in this case, unlike quite a lot of other products!
  • 33 1
 @DHhack:
You've dealt with enough of "us" guys? Not sure, how your mind works, but I don't think we've ever met in person and so you can't say anything about me, can you? "German engineer shtick" is what you make yourself out of it. I have not mentioned it here once. Also I did not tel "you" anythig about a median of the market or anythign similar. What are you even talking about.
I should not even bother replying to such crap, because there is nothin I need to justify myself for.
I still reply, because I have some advice, I would like to give to you:
1. I recommend you stop thinking in stereotypes. I do not care which nationality one is from and it should not be of importance for anyone for that matter.
2. I do not believe you can say anything about the quantity of posts we sell, but yeah, it looks like it is enough to get food on the table for anyone at BikeYoke, and that is important. So just stop thinking about it. We are doing OK, buit thanks for your worries.
3. It seems you need to stick your head out of your little bubble and open your mind a bit.
Not sure, what I've done to make you so ranty, but honestly I also don't really care. You are just a angry man with issues that obviously have nothing to do with me or our products. Get those solved before you let your anger out on other people.
  • 4 1
 @Sacki: Fair enough, looks like a good post. Way ahead of the reverb.
  • 11 0
 @Sacki: Great response to such a bag of dicks comment.
  • 1 0
 Agreed. I also own an original Revive and it has more than 8,300 miles (13,300 kilometers) on it and it is still working well. And truth be told, I have not even done the recommended lower service. I just keep it clean and use a little suspension stanchion oil to clean.
  • 50 31
 It's great that they have a fix for the squish but it seems a bit like a workaround for a problem that shouldn't really happen and we should be striving for a proper solution and not a band aid.
My One Up post has never gone squishy, worked reliably for years without maintenance, has a much shorter overall length for pretty much the same drop and is much cheaper... not saying the revive isn't good but the price and length for drop (really important for maximising drop for your height/frame) doesn't seem that competitive.
  • 41 0
 Oneup are excellent, the stack to drop is the best I've seen and I have them on all of my bikes but they aren't foolproof. I've had 2 cartridges die. I still think they are the best bang for buck but the bikeyoke seems a step up engineering wise. Very pricey though.
  • 26 0
 @subwaypanda: If the BikeYoke dropper is fully user serviceable (without having to rely on disposable cartridges) it may even things out on the long run. Especially considering apparently they'd even upgrade the older post to the new ones (so they might even do that with the next iteration). For me these are big criteria when purchasing new gear. Can I perform regular service myself? How expensive (and available) are spares and do I need new (product specific) tools?
  • 12 1
 9point8 fall line, completely mechanical with no hydraulics
  • 9 6
 @vinay: OneUp have all spares available (most of the time, covid made it little worse). I get that BikeYoke is more fancy and probably works 1% better, but honestly OneUp is half the price! Recently I ordered spare parts with free shipping and got them i 4 days and fully trackable.
If I had a 34.9 frame, then we are talking, would get a post with proper diameter any day.
  • 4 0
 @n734535: I had the original raceface turbine dropper that used the 9point8 internals and it was tempremental at best, was hard to get the air pressure right for a good return speed and it leaked all the time, so much so i had 2 warranty replacements that all did the same, 9point8 might have better seals or have updated it by now so can't totally write them off but i'm not sure i'd take the risk.
  • 40 0
 One up go squishy but are otherwise a great post. They are Toyota. This is hmm, not ferrari since that’s too unreliable. Maybe these are also Toyota. Lost in my own analogy.
  • 1 0
 @maglor: Mine does slowly lose air over time but i reckon i only have to add air every 2 or 3 months so it's not a big deal.
  • 2 1
 @n734535: i'd say it is a pretty big deal, nobody wants to come to ride and realise they need to take the seat off to add air, its not super quick, if the valve was on the side for easy access maybe less of a big deal. it is a shame because they are simple, lightweight and the fact it still works manually if it does loose air is great, just these days i want fit and forget from my dropper.
  • 75 3
 @lkubica:
@lkubica:
One Up may have all relevant spares available online, but you still have to buy a complete new cartridge in case it fails. You can not rebuild the old cartridge, instead you throw away expensively machined and coated aluminum parts, just because (in more than 99% of the cases) a single small o-ring has failed. Dropping in a new cartridge is indeed convenient and may not be really really expensive, but I think it is quite an unneccessary waste of material.
Our posts are expensive to produce, also because our posts are assembled 100% by the hands of our own team hand and because they can also be taken apart 100% and fixed, if neccessary.
I do not want to sound overly green-washing here, because our sport still requires a lot of consumables (grips, tires, ...) that leave enough contamination in nature, but still we are trying to keep things repairable and sustainlable as much as possible. You have to start somewhere, right? Throwing away 50% of a product to keep it going does not really make a lot of sense to me.
We have been following a whole different philosphy with our droppers from the start. We know hydraulics can fail and so we want to make everything repariable. Even if some (rarely) needed parts are not availble on our website, we can offer them through our service centers.
  • 8 24
flag lkubica (Aug 23, 2021 at 3:57) (Below Threshold)
 @Sacki: Great but new cadrige is 50EUR, which means that I can buy 4 spare cadriges and it will be still cheaper then revive. I have mine for the second season ant it still works great (the post is ridden in the winter too).
I understand the environmental thing, but untill you run on some bio-degradable oil, it is still a pain in the ass to service it. At least in Poland looking for places where you can safely dump oil, paints, electronics is a real pain.
  • 25 1
 Same as I had mentioned to another guy. As long as you are happy with your current post (of whaterver make it is) anmd it does what it's supposed to do - going relaibly up and down and stay in place) - then there are not a lot of reasons to change. But there are customers who appreciate the design and philosophy behind the product, because of their very own experience with other droppers.
Of course the REVIVE system is kind of a "work-around", but to put it simple: You can not build a bomb-proof hydraulic lockout system into such small available space. It simply does not work because of all the flex and pressure and oil and air that you have in there.
We are working around the issues that are inevitably there for any dropper post. And while we also have little issues once in a while, we also know, that we do have much less issues than others. ;-)
That is the main reason, why so many OE customers trust in our REVIVE. Simply because they are happy to pay the premium price for less trouble in after sales service.
  • 41 2
 @lkubica:
I am not talking about money. If you want to buy cheaper, BikeYoke is not the right brand for you. There is no doubt about it.
I do not get the point of the bio-degradeable oil, though.
You also have to dispose of your old cartridge, which is full of oil, isnt it? So you still have to find the same place to dispose your cartridge of?
In your case, however, you also throw away aluminum, seals and oil. And in REVIVE case you throw away 40cc of oil + a couple of o-rings.
I do not want to argue here to much, and I do not want to get too deep into that environmental thing (I mentioned already), but the only valid point your bringing up is the price and the philosophy behind how and where we produce.
We assemble every single post with our own team in our own facilities and assembly line, that we concepted and build by ourselves. Rest assured, that most of the other post that have been mentioned here have not even seen the hands of an employee of the actual brand, but went straight from an assembly plant/factory to the big warehouses
That may or may not be of importance for the customer, but it is for us as a brand and for our philosophy. We assemble our stuff by ourselves and that does cost money but we do it, because we want to be able to say that this is "our work".
  • 3 0
 @maglor: Well in my case at least it's very gradual so it's not that I'm ever out on aride and my seat stops coming up, rather at some point I just notice that it's coming up a bit slower and make a mental note to top it up at some point in the not too distant future.

Oh also you reminded me, my saddle has a cut out in the middle which conveniently allows me to access the valve without removing the saddle, so it really is a 2 minute job for me. The 9point8 saddle clamp does allow you to remove the saddle without needing to readjust the saddle angle, so again I don't think it would really bother me if I did have have to remove the saddleevery 2 or 3 months, but I can appreciate if it was losing air faster and you had to do it more regularly it would be annoying.
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 @Sacki: I really appreciate your work, economy is just so hard to ignore, especially if you earn 3.5 less than in Germany but all things cost about the same...
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 @Sacki: That statement right there and your quality is what would sell me to buy one of your droppers if and when the need arises. Well done, and a great response.
  • 14 2
 @lkubica: having owned both the oneup and bikeyoke, I would say that the bikeyoke feels about 200% sturdier, operates 300% smoother, and it’s 1000% more serviceable at home
  • 12 1
 I have owned 4 oneup droppers. 2 of the v1 and 2 of the V2. ALL of them ended up having stickiness issues coming up after a couple hundred miles. I know the maintenance procedures and did them religiously. I submitted warranty claims to one up for a couple of the one ups and they just told me to do the maintenance, rather than ask me if I had already performed it. I’m really not sure how they keep getting good reviews. I now have 2 of the revive 2.0 and they are a far superior post. Way smoother operation, which means you end up using it more.
  • 4 1
 @Cambot: @Cambot: My riding buddy is going through this now.. maddening. I would avoid OneUp at all costs based off my friends experience. I would gladly pay more for a quality product. My Revive is 3 years strong and I have only replaced the housing and cable.
  • 4 1
 @Mntneer: jumping on to this band wagon of former oneup users.. They are a solid post, not without their flaws. I couldn't rock mine slammed to the collar because it would bind and not rise if the collar was even remotely close to torqued. The folks at oneup are also awesome to deal with.

However, the revives are leaps ahead. Way smoother, no incessant rattle, no binding. Haven't had to deal with the folks at bikeyoke but if I had to they sure seem pleasant. While both posts work I'd gladly pay the premium again.
  • 2 1
 My one up v2’s had nothing but problems. One was replaced with a BY revive, the other a fox transfer. I paid very little for the transfer but it has had two failures, both on long rides. Nothing like having a seat post failure when you’re two hours from the car to make your day enjoyable. I will be getting another revive soon to replace the transfer.
  • 3 1
 @Cambot: Yep, this is my experience too. I have oneup 210mm posts on 2 bikes, both got sticky to the point they wouldn’t extend all the way. I contacted oneup and they quickly sent out revised bushings and seals for both posts, which has fixed it so far. We’ll see how they do through the winter, seems they don’t like mud.

I will say that I previously had a Revive and it was far superior in terms of smoothness and reliability. Got the Oneups because I’m 6’3” and wanted the longest drop I could get. Now that revive beats the Oneups by a crucial 3mm I may need to go back!
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 @AverageAdventurer: I got the oneup with a used frame that I purchased. I figured that I might as well try it out. I thought to myself, “I can’t imagine that people ride this thing and enjoy it”
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 @Mntneer: was it a brand new post with your used frame?
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 @DizzyNinja: the cartridge was just replaced
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 @Mntneer: there’s other components in there than just the cartridge. I ran a OneUp for a while on a fatbike often in freezing temps, no issues. Hard to take your experience as something worthwhile, who knows what the previous owner did.
  • 2 1
 @DizzyNinja: the previous owner is an extremely professional and top notch mechanic at a local shop. I’m confident in his work
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 At the end of the day, dropper seatposts have it tough. The seattubes have been designed for rigid (so constant diameter) seattubes initially. And whereas so many other components on bikes have been upscaled to keep up with loads and fashion, the room for a larger diameter seattube is constrained. In case of a full suspension bike typically by the suspension linkage and cranks, in case of a hardtail by ride characteristics. A while ago Stanton increased the seattube diameter to accommodate with modern dropper posts and people complained the new bike lost its liveliness. Liteville has the edge there as they develop both the frame as well as the dropper post to work as a system and they have much more room to play with. But the "universal" dropper post manufacturers have to do with the standard seattubes bike manufacturers put on their bikes. It is just hard to make these droppers durable and reliable like that. If you just accept that, the question isn't so much "how long can keep going without service or repairs" as it is partly luck. But instead you'd be happy knowing the repairs and service can be done in a matter of minutes and parts are cheap.
  • 5 0
 the smoothness of the action on the Revive is in another world; the OneUp is definitely the best post on a budget, but in terms of sheer performance it can't measure up. plus it's nice to just service the post and not have to replace a cartridge
  • 6 0
 @Vlad-Putin:
OneUp is 4Runner
Bike Yoke is Land Cruiser

Twice the price, yes, but twice the reliability in the long run.
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 Pretty happy with the OneUp; it does require a fair bit more care in cleaning dust seal and putting a little stanchion lube on to keep it smooth, but that's pretty insignificant in the maintenance department. Adding a bit of air every few months is no big deal really, although removing the seat is a little bit of a hassle.
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 @jason475:
Thank you, Jason! This means a lot!
It's nice to know that our work is really appreciated and valued.
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 I good never get along with OneUps. The V2 was better, but the lever and post-actuation always felt like some sort of garbage. My V1 one up I had to unscrew the collar and clean / re-grease every other ride (sometimes in the middle of a ride). I bought their maintenance kit etc. Just good never get it working.

E13 works - but is rattly.
  • 1 0
 @tsheep: As a 100 series Land Cruiser owner with 265k mi on the odo, its just broken in.
You can buy a BikeYoke and get a quality product; or you can buy a Reverb and get kwality product.
  • 1 1
 My new bike came with a OneUp, it needed the bushing greased right out of the box and the cable got sticky after just a few uses, which may have nothing to do with the post to be fair. But I have had two Revive droppers including a Max on my Enduro and they are not in the same league as One Up. Revive is far smoother and sturdier, can be serviced at home without throw-away cartridges. I've also never had issues with my Revive posts in 3 years. Pricey, yes... but also justified. If my bike didn't come with the OneUp I'd spent the cash on another Revive and probably will eventually because it' so much nicer to use, and it's something you use all the time while riding.
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 OneUp makes great components and I have their post on my winch-and-plummet bike because it allowed me to eke out another 15mm of drop, was less expensive, and I often don't use the dropper at all on mostly gravel road climbs and only a handful of times or even no times on the way back down. Very pleased other than the rattle that comes from the post when you stand up for a second while fully extended. People comparing prices should factor in the larger pin kit. I've got one I need to try installing. I'm also gong to buy a spare cartridge to take on trips, which again reduces the difference in price. I have a Revive on my trail bike that I ride the most and on which I am almost constantly using the dropper. I'm fortunate to be able to afford a Revive, and that being the case I would absolutely not be happy with a OneUp on this bike. Action and reliability of Revive worth every penny. I often wonder if a lot of the difference in opinion on Revive v. OneUp is that people are only doing or thinking about one type of riding.
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 To give OneUp full credit, I should have also said that their saddle rail clamping system is superior not only because of the drop, but also because the hardware and bolts are much more robust.

And, it's really nice that the actuator is designed to simply the cable head. Why are we cutting cable and using that little barrel nut when we're also going to cut the cable at the lever?

Don't want to jinx myself, but I've been running a Revive for years without the barrel nut. Just putting the cable head into the actuator.
  • 1 0
 I’ve not had a problem with three seat posts in 7 years. One was a Specialized brand and the other two both X-fusion. Knock on wood, I guess.
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 Agree, I just don't see a reason to use anything else. My OneUp has been in use for 2 years, I've done a full service once and done 2 minor services, never replaced the cartridge. Zero issues whatsoever. I don't know, sometimes I think it's really just a luck of the draw.
  • 1 1
 @Mntneer: sounds made up, or that tid bit would’ve been mentioned already
  • 2 1
 @DizzyNinja: sounds like you’re living in a fantasy world or around a bunch of shitty people if that’s how your mind works. Of course everyone’s first inclination is going to be to include information which will allay your paranoia *massive eye roll*
  • 1 0
 @vinay: True words!
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 But a 34.9 seatpost diameter itself for sure does not make a bike less lively.
  • 1 0
 I've had the Bikeyoke Revive for three seasons on 2 separate bikes and nearly 3k miles total riding. I have not once had to revive the dropper post and it's never been serviced. 3 years later it's still as buttery smooth and infinitely adjustable.ad the day I bought it. Eventually, it may need to be serviced like anything else, like my forks and hydraulic breaks (which is done yearly or sooner if needed)..
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 @Mntneer: sounds like you got really upset
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 I cannot understate how easy it is to replace a One Up dropper cartridge.

Out of a half dozen One Up droppers I've owned; V1 and V2, I've only had one cartridge go bad and it was replaced under warranty.
  • 3 0
 My One Up post crapped out and needed a new cartridge after 9 months of use... I'm now using a Revive and couldn't be happier.
  • 2 0
 I have a bike with a Bike Yoke Revive and one with a One Up V2. They both work, but there is no comparison with the feel of the two. The bike yoke is so much better in terms of smoothness. No reliability issues with either. If you have the scratch, it's a no brainer, the Bike Yoke wins by a mile. The One Up is about half the price which is why I own one, but you do get what you pay for.
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 @Sacki: I think what you are doing is great, servicability and eco freindly is all good and if you have the money then great to support such a company and get a quality product but taking it back to my original comment i've ran a One Up for over 3 years and not a problem so hardly throwing cartridges (or money) away left right and centre, and the big one for me is i managed to just squeeze a 180 drop into my frame but your 185 post is 20mm longer post and 37mm longer with the actuator so i'd have to run the 160 revive post loosing important travel, would maybe be less of an issue as frames get better clearance for longer droppers but i'd always want to maxmise my drop as much as possible.
  • 19 0
 My Revive 1.0 is nearly 4 years old now, and with only basic maintenance is still really smooth and reliable. As noted in the review, transporting upside down means the post usually needs resetting before each ride but that takes seconds, especially as I've now fitted one of the little 'tool free' plug in levers (which also functions as a backup actuator).
BikeYoke themselves are a pleasure to deal with, excellent customer service.
Overall one of the best components I've ever bought, and will happily buy from then again when I need a new post.
  • 3 0
 same here. bought another for the other bike replacing an one up, which was half the price, but has higher maintenance intervals and is not near as smooth.
  • 4 0
 Managed to snap the head off mu revive 1.0 on my hardtail. T F Tuned warrantied it within a week - so all good. Noted that its one piece now. Also have a bikeyoke lever cable conversion for my reverb - which is excellent.
  • 1 0
 @psldix: Wondering the length of the seat rail clamps related to same issue. Th KS-Lev I'm going to replace are short and they deformed, maybe crash related, maybe not, but the grip on my seat rails is very disappointing.
  • 2 0
 My wife ran one on her old bike for about 5 years. She clocked a ton of miles, in lots of shitty conditions and it never skipped a beat. I only serviced it twice, first time was a clean and regrease the second time needed a couple of parts. Fantastic seatpost.
  • 14 1
 No comparison with brandx/transx Ascend XL?
200mm drop for 150 quid

And my 170mm been faultless for 2years (upgrade to bontrager lever worth it tho)
  • 8 0
 B-X will be my go-to when I’m next buying. Of all the areas on the bike that seem like you get diminishing returns, the seatpost tops my list. As long as it works, I’m good
  • 4 0
 My son runs a brandx on his hardtail - abused for 3 yrs and still going.
  • 9 0
 +1 for Brand-X dropper posts.

Amazing price. Run perfectly in UK slop with zero service. Three of my four bikes have them and I'd buy another tomorow.

Friend of mine had one die after two years of abuse and zero love. Instant replacement from CRC with no questions asked or need to return the old post.

Shout out also to PNW who's customer service has been exceptionally good with a few issues I've had with their Rainer Gen3 post.
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 @pwn1: @pwn1: I second that. I bought a new PNW post that had the actuator break. They overnighted me a new actuator and paid to ship the broken one back so they could investigate. Haven't had any problems since.

I really liked that when I emailed them a real person called me back within an hour and wanted to address the issue. As an engineer myself, I also like that they wanted the old part back to see what happened. That is what makes a good company. All manufactured products will have defects, guaranteed. A company wanting to know why rather than just blindly shipping off a replacement part is what makes a great company.
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 @lukesjr: yup! same issue with actuator for me. new one shipped to the UK in a few days. Recently came to service the post and it was pretty grim inside after a hard UK winter. Got in touch with them again and sent me full set of internals FOC and said if I had any more problems get in touch and they'd sort me out.

It is still possible to have good customer service it seems. Fair play to brands like PNW and it seems BikeYoke too.

Final off topic shoutout to Evil bikes, who also have excellet customer service, and are helping me a lot with a crash replacement issue.
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 This. I have FOUR Ascends (one on hardtail, one on full sus, one on kids' bike, one on other kids' bike). One of them (the oldest, it's about 4 years old now and has a lot of use on it) occasionally sticks in the last 1/2 inch of coming up, but it's truly occasionally and it's an older version. The other three have been 100% flawless for their entire lives (3ish years for one, 1.5 years for the other two). To have three posts work that well for that long is pretty remarkable especially given the price. Brand-X / Trans-X is what I recommend to friends now.

Zero maintenance other than the occasional 3 minute bushing/stanchion Slick Honey lube every 6 months to keep them gliding. Zero need for a bleed port.

My reverbs all died quick deaths and my OneUp stuck in the last 1/2 inch of coming up after awhile (thought the OneUp is still pretty good).
  • 4 2
 Yup, not sure why people pay premium prices on a dropper... Take the fox transfer for example. The only thing different that dropper does is add a kashima coating which is absolutely unnecessary and is merely just for the visual appeal for people that obsess over having the most bling on their bike.. The only other dropper I guess I could see why people spend the money on is the Reverb AXS dropper, but even then do you really need an electric dropper post for $800 when a mechanical one for $150 does just as good a job?
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 @stumphumper92:
"The only thing different that dropper does is add a kashima coating"
There you go already. You name the reason yourself.
Whether or not Kashima is "absolutely unneccessary" can and should not be decided by you for others.
  • 3 0
 @Sacki: sure. necessary if you care about looks - fine. Not necessary if you care about performance.
  • 6 1
 @stumphumper92:
Absolutely with you. For a post I'd not consider the premium for the Kashima, because it is really just for the looks, but some people do care about looks more than about how things actually ride.
Why else do you think big chunky SUVs are so popular. ;-) Not because they drive exceptionally well or because they are usefull, but because most of them simply look cool.
And that is totally fine.
  • 6 0
 @Sacki: it'd be totally fine if SUVs only emitted good will & rainbows
  • 8 0
 Own a BikeYoke Divine 185mm and it’s hands down the best post i ever owned.

If you as a mere mortal can’t make out that tiny bit of extra smoothness in travel, go for the Divine instead - it resets itself automatically, so no need to use an allen key for a manual reset, travel can be adjusted and it is much cheaper than the Revive.
  • 3 0
 My Divine has been faultless so far in it's first season. I've broken many droppers from many brands. I like Bikeyoke, Brand X, and PNW. Most of em I won't run again.
  • 9 1
 IMHO, BikeYoke is a "Buy nice or buy twice" kind of company. It costs more upfront than some other brands but it saves me time and money in not dealing with warranty claims, missed rides, etc. I've had issues with 2 PNW Components droppers and a OneUp. The issues were covered by the companies, no issues there, but the lost riding time was an issue. I bought a Divine and then Revive 1.0 and couldn't be any happier. No issues with either over 2 years; basic maintenance so far (which would be with any dropper) and running as smooth as the first day. My recommendation to all my friends that are willing/able to pay a little more for a dropper.
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 100% A few years ago I was skeptical but my BY post has been money. The lever feel is awesome, solid post. Zero issues. I've had the other posts you mentioned and they need constant service to keep working. I still have a few Transfers and they're fine but I know when the time comes the BY can easily be serviced but the transfers will have me weighing a new post vs. paying for Fox service.
  • 6 0
 I’ve been very happy with two of Bike Yoke’s droppers. One has over 3600 miles of abuse with no service needed (not that I shouldn’t have) but still works like new. I can’t say enough good things about a brand that’s passionate, make a product that’s this solid and has great customer service.

Thanks Sacki!
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 Thanks, mate!
  • 4 0
 Love my V1. Had not missed a beat in four years in UK conditions. It is quick and punchy without damaging the plums. Was easy to install and adjust. The seals are amazing. Recently treated it to a full strip down and service. Was easy to do at home and the new spare parts were cheap. Any communication with them has been quick and they truly come across as nice folk as you'd hope a good company to. The V2 will be .
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 One other great feature of the BikeYoke posts is the ability to swap lower bodies between 30.9 and 31.6. I converted my Revive 1.0 185 like this when I went from a 31.6 bike to a 30.9, for about $40.
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 Been on v1 185 & now on v2 213...
Never had any issues....great piece of equipment that i will keep as long as i can.

If i can criticize: I had a reverb b1 with a mechanical wolftooth conversion. The actuation of the lever was better compared to the bikeyoke; which has a sort of notchy on/ off lever feel with more resistance. That might be due to my cable routing but I think it’s also the lever design. The wolftooth and reverb was very smooth and progressive, you could easily modulate the post speed. The reverb itself wasn’t as smooth and the wolftooth has that annoying break free sacrificial plastic part that broke with a small crash.

All in all; bikeyoke is the best
  • 1 0
 I went through this.. shopped new levers even. But before I bought a new lever I replaced the cable and housing. Perfectly smooth actuation. Jagwire Pro Dropper Cable set. Its not the lever I guarantee.
  • 3 0
 I have a Revive in each of my two bikes. First one came on an Ibis Ripley. Somehow, Ibis spec'd a $400 dropper on their SLX build. I was an instant fan. One year later, I built up another bike with SLX parts but splurged on a new Revive.
I've owned an early Reverb, an early RaceFace (9.8 style), Bontrager DropLine, SDG Tellis, OneUp V2 and eThirteen Vario. The earlier droppers (Reverb, RaceFace) were garbage. The Bonty was decent and reliable, but developed play quickly. The SDG, OneUp and eThirteen were all similar - solid, reliable. Of those, the SDG Tellis was my favorite. The Revive outclasses them all with a light lever action, silky-smooth up/down, tight bushings, zero air leaks, and zero issues.
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 My GX Ripmo was supposed to come with a KS... it showed up with a Revive. I will never be able to repay Ibis.
  • 6 1
 I cannot believe no one has mentioned the packaging that the Bike Yoke shows up in! lol

if you have one you know.......is this a massive sex toy or designer vodka??
  • 2 0
 I love my BikeYoke, the revive function is awesome, but since my bike hangs from the front wheel it needs a revive before each ride. And i must admit that my favorite dropper was the Spesh Command Post om my last bike. Mechanical lock out, and ultra fast extension. To bad they don't make them anymore.
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 Doesn't that mean that you'll need to leave your bike upright for a little while before you actually start riding? I thought the damping oil in the fork needs to settle in the right spaces before you compress the fork again (after having been stored upside down)? Not sure if it is different with these forks that don't have (semi) open bath damping these days. Either way, depending on where you store your allen keys, the revive thing should be done quickly enough, shouldn't it? Alternative, you could try to hang your bike with the rear wheel up and see if it improves things.

As for the Command Post, yeah with the saddle low I also prefer the saddle nose up so it seemed like a great concept. Not sure if there were technical issues but I do recall the comment section killed it with a bit too much fire.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: The technical issues were, that the Command Post gradually destroyed itself during use www.peterverdone.com/the-worst-dropper-post
  • 2 0
 @vinay:
From my experience i pick the bike from the wall, check tire pressure, grab my allen Key, revive the post and go for a ride. It adds maybe 20 seconds of work.

And i talk about the regular command post, without the tilt of the saddle.
  • 1 0
 @j0lsrud: 20 seconds, shouldn't be too big of a deal should it? Seems like they even have a solution to save you even more time:
www.bikeyoke.de/en/revive-quick-reset-lever.html
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 into some BDSM cock&ball torture I see! lol

the Command Post, AKA "the neuterator9000"
  • 2 0
 @conoat: A litte ballbusting makes the ride more spicy!
  • 1 0
 @vinay: I liked the Command post. My brother had one on his Rockhopper. He liked it, had no problems with it and he's not exactly known for his bike maintenance skills. It was still working like new when it was sold. But yeah internet fire pretty much killed it.
  • 2 0
 This is the holy grail of dropper posts. Just good engineering and no BS. The smoothness of my Revive sometimes prevents me from partial compression on tech pedally stuff. It blows through its travel in a heartbeat, often leaving me with more drop than I'd have liked on the XC bike. I have a OneUp on the enduro, and while it's inferior in all aspects of operation, its damped actuation gives me better feel of how much it compresses. It's hard to consider this a weakness, but if Bikeyoke should improve on anything, they could find a way to let user control oil flow in open mode. Perhaps using heavier oil could help.
  • 3 0
 I hope the "updated saddle clamp" is a real improvement. I have had two Revives (and still ride one). The lower seat clamp snapped on both of them. Saki said this has never happened to anyone else.
  • 3 1
 I also complained about the cost, and I also ran other posts like SDG and OneUp. After borrowing my buddy's bike outfitted with a Revive I now own one. The SDG and OneUp are nowhere near as smooth. The OneUp was honestly a pain, and needed air added more often then it should.

Higher price = much higher satisfaction in this case. I'll never get another brand of dropper.
  • 6 0
 I like my sdg. I Know its not fancy but it works good enough for me.
  • 3 0
 @Thirty3:
Keep it and ride it! Nothing wrong with it as long as it works for you! Does not have to be "fancy".
  • 2 0
 I really hope the posts get less complicated. Most of the time they are full up or full down. I also miss my original command post. Had 3 positions and that was all that was needed up, down and one spot 3/4 of the way up. I have had both the reverb and fox and both catastrophically failed dumping oil into the seat tube. Use a oneup now since can not justify 500 - 700 for a dropper post. When the cartridge dies send it back to Oneup no need to throw it out.
  • 2 0
 I had a Revive on my Ripmo. When changing frame to new Troy, I had to buy a new dropper post bacause the new frame accepts 34,9. I had to wait 3 months . During the waiting period I used an SDG. It was then that I realized the quality of BikeYoke. The feeling of the Revive comes from another planet. Price is forgotten, but quality stays.
  • 2 0
 In my opinion, Dan Roberts engineering knowledge and next-level ability to understand and then explain to us plebeian readers what is going on with bikes speaks for itself. But did you all catch the James Stewart seat-bounce reference? That is next-next level stuff right there. Impressive.
  • 1 0
 he is also the only one that can handle and bullyback Levy on the podcast. Love it everytime they include him on.
  • 4 0
 @Sacki:
The only important question here - WHEN you will start your suspension line ??!!
Shock, fork - just do it the same superb as your Revive.
  • 2 0
 "If you happen to have one of the original versions of the Revive, upon sending it in to be serviced the post will be updated with all the new Revive 2.0 parts for no extra cost."

I have two of the Revive V1s and this is an interesting statement. Does that include the stantion and head as well? Even in Australia?
  • 1 0
 I run a Revive V2 and a OneUp V2 on my two bikes. While the OneUp is an excellent example of a cartridge dropper, The Revive is a masterpiece. Sooo smooth and easy to keep 100% perfect. And low on maintenance requirement.

I had an original Revive V1 that is still doing duty on a mate's bike and has only had one rebuild since it came out. Bulletproof!

10/10 would recommend a Revive. The only reason I got the OneUp was to try the MEGA drop, but now that Bikeyoke offers this too, I will be changing.
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 470 Euros.

Does that place this at the "Dentist" level that I see a fair few using when it comes to prices? The Bike Yolk SPs I've seen, are certainly nice, and from reports, work well, so I'm not slagging them.

But, I do have a dim view of the Myriad problems I've seen with dropper posts, of so many types and brands. They are, essentially, such simple things, in terms of hydraulics and bearing solutions.

I've had no problems with One Ups I've used (I may just be lucky?) - a good product, at a reasonable price. I'm a bit of a fan of the brand, with all of their products I've used.
  • 3 1
 I have had four different OneUps and have had two of them fail in two different ways basically from brand new. There is really no comparison in quality to BikeYoke. I am really happy they got more media coverage now.
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 For me I see it as being cheaper than a Reverb or Transfer in the long run - I know I was having to get my reverb serviced yearly at £90/time, so you only need to do one or two home services to have spent significantly less.
I'm very happy with mine, and love the fact that I can service it myself.
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 My Revive v1.0 is nearly 4 years old. I haven’t done a single bit of maintenance on it and it’s still working like new.

The post is super smooth and the lever action is light as a feather.

If you can afford it buying anything else is madness.
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 My original Revive is close to 2 years old, ridden multiple times a week and is perfect, never needed a service. I have used the revive valve a few times, after pleading the bike upside Down, but as described, the valve works and the squish immediately disappears. You get what you pay for. I donate the reverb garbage that comes Stock on Santa Cruz and replace With revive Everytime.
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 I was lucky enough to get a V1 of these cheaply second hand, it had had a hard life when I got it but it soldiered on for over a year with just a basic re-grease. Then eventually when it started to sag I sent it to the French distributor for full service & some new internal parts, quickly came back good as new and wasn't crazy expensive to do - highly recommended as a really durable and serviceable product.
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 @Dan-Roberts "If you happen to have one of the original versions of the Revive, upon sending it in to be serviced the post will be updated with all the new Revive 2.0 parts for no extra cost."

Have you confirmed this with BikeYoke? I believe this was a limited time deal which ended last year. I'd be excited to upgrade mine now that they're actually due for a rebuild, especially since I'd stop having to worry about the possibility of the post head snapping off in the middle of a ride.
  • 1 0
 Paid $160 for my OneUp V1 150. I've rebuilt/regreased it once for free (brass keys & rebuild under warranty 2 years later for slop), and still goes up and down as good as the day I bought it. I top off the air once a year. Def hard to see the value in an expensive post such as this, especially considering the biggest concerns (unwanted squish and user serviceability) are a non-issue in the OneUp. I am a sucker for well-engineered items like the wolftooth lever, cushcore, absoluteblack CRs and CC suspension, so if money were no object this post would be the top of my list - I'd love to try it. Sadly, on a budget, this a stretch for no additional functionality.
  • 2 1
 Yes the action is really smooth, but mine is not without issues... Do you guys also have repeated creaking coming from the seat rail clamp and also this post doesn't like cold weather.. mine stop working at around 0 to -5 degree Celsius.
  • 2 1
 You talking about a REVIVE with issues in sub zero temps? OR are you talking about another post?
Our posts should not have any issues with temps as low as -10°C and even lower.
  • 1 0
 I've got the original but Bike Yoke got me the free 2.0 upgrade. The original was creaky but I was able to figure out how to get it to stop being so noisy (push slightly back on the top clamp while tightening evenly). With the 2.0, I can't get the clamp to stop creaking. I've tried a bunch of things and it still annoys the shit out of me. I'm in the SW USA so I can't tell you anything about cold temps, LOL.
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 @Sacki: Hi Sacki, any advice on how to eliminate seat clamp creaking for the 2.0 design? The tips you posted about the original design were helpful in quieting my previous clamp. Thanks in advance!
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 @jykozak: Not easy to determine a creak, it could be som many things.
First you'd want to make sure to use the recommended torque (obviously) and then make sure the clamps are not clamped under tnesion. When you tighten the blts, make sure thje clamps evenly touch the rails without the bolts pulling them too much too one side (front or back).
A last solution can be to apply some copper paste or heavy grease on the rails. Sometimes micromovement in the rails/clamp connection can cause creaking. Sometimes it is also the saddles themselves. We've heard of some particular saddles apparently being morte prione to creaking than others. But saddle creaking usually sounds slightly different than clamp creaking (more high ptich and more metallic).
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 @jykozak: I chased down a creak on my V1 post when I first got it. Tried everything, greasing seat rails, different torques, I even made a shim out of copper. The creak turned out to be coming from the seatpost/frame interface. Now I'll pull the post and clean everything a few times a season, keeps the bike silent. Hope this helps.
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 @millerstone:
Good point.
Posts should always be greased on the lower tube before installed into the frame. Use a thick grease, like marine grease or one of the many ones similar to Motorex 2000 Bike Grease. The thicker, the better.
Creaking also can come from the seat collar / seat binder / seat clamp.
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 Thanks @Sacki and @millerstone. The key was wiggling the saddle so the top clamp moved into its natural position then carefully applying even tension on both bolts. I had previously tried to force the top clamp backwards like I did with my original post.
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 I’ve got a 200mm Transfer on my Sentinel, because the 213 Revive was a little too long to fit. I’ve got a 175mm Transfer on my Enduro because the 185 Revive was a little too long to fit. In both cases, I almost went with the next shorter Revives anyway, because I know from the three other bikes I’ve run them on that they are just the best. So far so good with the Transfers, but if/when problems arise, I may still end up going with the shorter Revives.
  • 1 0
 @sacki I've had two of your BikeYoke posts now. They are awesome and blow everything else away (got a long list of failures from other brands to refer to here). Don't ever sacrifice on your product quality. Keep doing what you're doing and you have an indefinite repeat customer here.
  • 2 0
 Thanks for the kind words! If you were here in Germany, I'd ask you, what kind of drink I can buy you for this nice compliment. ;-)
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 Hah unfortunately not, but the answer would still be Weihenstephaner
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 @ghill28: Not a bad choice indeed. Not at all!
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 Without a doubt the best dropper I've used, that's why I have them on both my bikes. For those who are looking for a 34.9mm diameter post with 200+ mm of drop, just get the 30.9mm model and use a seatpost shim. Specialized specs a lot of their bikes with seatpost shims straight from the factory.
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 Use a shim, or even better:
Wait for another 2 weeks.... ;-)
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 In a single year on my Trail bike I've written of two 210mm One Ups and I'm just filling out the warranty forms for my 170mm Reverb AXS.
In my experience, as dropper length increases, so does the amount of mud, sand and dust that can enter the system.
Has to do with the lever effect / slack seat tube angle I suppose.

I just fitted a Bike Yoke and was impressed with the quality, lets see if it holds up.
  • 1 0
 Rider weight acting on that lever also a factor.
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 Quite happy with my 185, I upgraded to the V2 components when that was available. The only thing I could wish for is a version in between 185 and the 213 as the 213 won't fit my size large Switchblade. Otherwise I would go a little longer. Well designed component to be sure.
  • 1 0
 Bikeyoke!! Thanks for making me remember that the bike industry is also some great people that make great products and complete it with great customer service. I've followed you for many years now and stay impressed that you use success to become even more customer friendly. My only problem with you is that i forgot to send my Revives to the replacement service arrangement you had, that was almoust to good to be true. Please do it again!
  • 2 0
 The first one was the best dropper on the market (and still would be) but then the 2.0 came and now it is the best one on the market.
  • 1 1
 I've got the revive 2.0 213mm for a year now and really happy with the smooth dropper but I'm not really convinced by the command. I've had twice the case where the cable came loose due to the small screw that limits the torque. It's also less ergonomic compared to a Reverb command.
  • 1 0
 Bought a revive back on the very first production run. Now onto my 3rd frame and after the USP upgrade it’s like new again. Been faultless and the revive reset valve is the best.
  • 2 0
 Comes at a premium! Have you seen the price of bikes recently? This post is a bargain compared to some of the bike industry nowadays.
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 Yes Bike Yoke is the best and it can be found for 300-350 new if you look around. Had several posts then I bought the Yoke, sold the others and never looked back.....
  • 1 0
 I have the Revive 185 and I couldn't be happier with it, just works flawless for me and there is no other dropper post I would rather want on my bike. great to see such a positive test for them
  • 3 1
 until you can make your dropper as short as the OneUp’s insertion, it won’t benefit any tall riders. The first company to make a 34.9 and 250mm+ drop gets my money, fast.
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 I can't really help with a 250mm version, but maybe a 213mm in 34.9 will do? If you just give it maybe two more weeks?
Besides, as 250mm dropper would be so incredibly long, that only a very limited number of people can actually use it. A 250mm dropper would easily be longer than 635mm. It woudl require an extension of more than 290mm out of the seattube and if fully dropped into the frame,it woould need a frame insertion of more than 340mm - measuring a total length of 630mm wihthout the actuator on the bottom.
You'd need to be very tall and then you'd still need a very special frame that allows deep insertion. That's a very rare combination and while I totally get that it is desireable for some of you (who are that tall and have a proper frame), I highly doubt we could sell enough to make it a profit for us. And of course we need to make profit after all, right?Toolings are very expensive and producing small quantities does not make it cheaper. I know said the same about a potential 200 mm version a acouple years ago, but things have changed. Frames have shorter seattubes and more insertion in general. 250mm is currently not something that makes sense from a company point of view.
I am 185cm (pretty much exactly 6') and I can ride a 213mm in only one of all my bikes - and that barely.
It is and it will always be a matter fo frame design, too. IBIS for example have short seattubes and good insertion which allows for long dropper even for shorter people. 170cm people can already ride 185 droppers. That is very rare, still.
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 @Sacki: I hope that time comes soon (where 250mm drop makes sense), but also what about the 225 "Revive Ultra Max" mentioned elsewhere, instead of just 213?

I've got a 213mm in my XL Druid right now, would love 225 in there. I'm looking at replacing it with the new Norco Range, and rough guestimate is I could fit a 250 in it. I'm not even *that* tall at 190cm / 6'3". I've got two other friends in similar boats, while the demand is assuredly lower this end of the scale, it might not be as low as you think (at least I hope so, for my own selfish desires). As more frame makers go 34.9 (as they should), I hope this continues the trend of shorter and shorter seat tubes as the post is more sturdy, 250s might end up being increasingly viable.

Love my revive 2.0 213 though, got fed up after a oneup cart died way too fast, so regardless keep on keepin' on!
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 @Wander512:
For the 34.9, we stuck with the 213mm length to keep things kind of consistent throughout the line-up.
I am not saying longer drops won't come, but I don't see it in the near future and particularly not at 30.9 or 31.6 diameters.
Never say never though... ;-)
  • 1 0
 Cheaper is not always better, I'd rather buy it once then replace it. My transfer was not worth repairing so I went with a revive. No issues at all, the best part is the one that you don't even know that it's there.
  • 1 0
 @Dan Roberts: what size frame does the pictures RAAW Madonna have?
I just got my L sized frame but the max post insertion won‘t allow me to run the 213 mm version and even the 185 version is borderline.
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 @Dan-Roberts
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 $500 USD is a lot of money for a dropper, even if it a really good dropper.

I paid less than half that much for a One Up 210mm dropper and they work flawlessly, only had one cartridge go bad in four years of using their posts; the cartridge was replaced for free.

So yeah, an orthodontist post.
  • 1 1
 I've had BikeYoke Revive for 2 yrs and will not be touching their products anytime soon. It's one of the most unreliable, flawed, over hyped and over priced piece of equipment I bought for my bike in recent years.

It was constantly needing a service to operate smoothly because dirt was gettinng in. Yes you can do it yourself in 30min if you know what to do and have tools but I prefer to ride my bike rather than servicing it every couple of weeks. Their support person told me it may be my frame's fault (Devinci Spartan), then got annoyed with someone on the forum and I've never seen him again. It seems like dirt geta in through the holes at the bottom. It just wasn't working smoothly most of the time. On one cold ride it just failed to operate at all. I've had quite a few droppers: Fox Transfer, Giant, OneUp and BikeYoke was definitely the least reliable and most annoying to live with out of all of them. And the most expensive! On fox transfer now and never had a single issue.
  • 2 0
 I'm sorry for how you think about us or our post and also about the troubles you had during it's use.
But let me get a few things straight here, because I don't like it, when things are ripped out of context in order just to make us look bad.
With no word I said it was your frame.
Your original assumption was, that your post keeps collecting dirt and water through the breathing holes in the bottom.
Those were your words, not mine.
Then I asked you what frame you are using, and asked you how you washed your bike, because if the post collects dirt from the bottom, then obviously the water must come from the bottom side and not from the top.
And if enough water and dirt gets into the frame to cause damage on the post then it is not a problem of the post itself to begin with,
is it?
Before we could elaborate more, I stopped support in this forum because some particular users had made it hard for me to comment and support there, trolling and attacking me, accusing me of false things for months.
The comment after my my reply to your post then gave me the rest and I decided to not comment there anymore. In one last post I explained my decision to leave, but also mentioned, that I'll be there to answer any question by mail or phone for anyone.
Most of the users absolutely understood my decision - some even commented, that they would have long time ago already.
So please, if you tell a story, don't be pickin' raisins in your favour just to make us look bad. Tell the whole story.
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 @Sacki:
Your comment(s) make me even more confident about my decision to stay away from the BikeYoke products. In your original post just like this one you are implying it's my frame's fault or something i do that is causing Revive's malfunctioning. There is nothing out of context about this.

Water and dirt gets everywhere when you do mountain biking regardless what you do or where you live, that includes inside the frames. That's the way it is. I had different droppers on the same frame and only Revive was malfunctioning regularly.

The bottom line is that the internals of the Revive get contaminated affecting its performance way too easily.

Something I forgot to mention, just recently I demo'd a bike with the BikeYoke Revive 213 and it was an absolute rubbish. Very slow to return (or not returning at all) and rubbing the stanchion just like the one I had on my own bike.

Bad product ... Bad customer service. That's my experience.
  • 3 4
 Been tempted by this post. But you've overlooked the biggest issue that it has compared to some of the competition.

It can have its travel adjusted. And given they have 28mm between sizes, that kinda sucks.

For somewhat shorter/average height riders this matters for making the most of a post and is a reason why I'm waiting for a OneUp or PNW Loam to come back into stock for my new build.
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 You can travel adjust the Bikeyoke Divine.
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 To be completely fair, I do not see this as the "biggest issue".
No Fox or Rock Shox or KS post offers travel adjustment in their droppers. Most of the others don't either.
The travel jumps of 28mm is also not noticeably different form what most others offer. 20-30 mm steps are what is found on most droppers.
At some point you simply have to define the size jump and - no matter how small or big you make the jump - there will always be people who will be on either side: The jump is too small or too big for them. Every version, no matter if 125, 160, 185, 213 will be too long for one or the other customer. That is somethig you will never be able to avoid.
We could indeed implement a travel reduction for the REVIVE, but it would be not as easy to install as you cna find it on (very few though) other posts and similar to what we have on the DIVINE. Not as easy as on other posts, simply because we want the travel adjustment to be troublefree on the long run, which other existing solutions not really are all the time. ;:-)
That being said, I believe we may have quite a bit more other advantages over the posts you mentioned, compared to the "one disadvantage" of not existing travel adjustability.
  • 1 1
 What I don't understand is, that the Bikeyoke Divine automatically resets itself when dropped completely down. Why didn't they implement that in this newer version of the Revive?
  • 3 3
 How can you call it incredibly reliable with zero issues when it frequently needs bleeding? Even if it's easy to do, like cmon, shouldn't have to mess with a premium priced seatpost.
  • 1 0
 Well the “Bleeding” literally takes 5 seconds and can be done anytime anywhere
  • 1 0
 Where is that dropper made ? I am paying more and more attention to this, and am ready to pay a bit more for local production.
  • 8 0
 Not that local as what you are looking for, maybe.
I was living living in Taiwan for a couple of years when I was working there for another German company before I started BikeYoke. I owe this company a lot of. BikeYoke wouldn't exist if I hadn't been working at Bionicon before. Made a lot of friends in Taiwan and met hundreds of suppliers, small and big factories who produce for all kind of brands. Taiwan is an amazing country and it is very different of what most of peopleprobably think it is.
One of these friends I started BikeYoke with and we built up our own facilities there (moved two times already in 5 years) and with the growing product line-up, more people came and joined the team. Most of the guys we have known for a long time, already. We are a team of a total of 15 people now. 4 in Germany, 11 in Taiwan. What has never changed is, that every single product (not only post) is assembled and packed by the hands of our own team.
  • 1 0
 @Sacki:

Thanks for the transparent answer here- though as an owner I was curious and was not able to easily find that on your website.
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 @AckshunW:
We will for sure make an update on the website with a little more story and background information.
We also do all the website stuff by ourselves and while I may be a semi-mediocre engineer (;-)), I am not a very well versed designer or programmer for such things. But we'll hopefully get there, too.
Lots of things I've learned in the past couple of years. All this website stuff is a lot learning by doiung for me. With Dominik having joined the team just a couple months ago, we have someone who is much better at these things, than I am and he already did a good job on the CI side of things. Slowly but steadily we're gettign more professional in our web and media presence. Generally we try to let the products talk for themselves, but of course marketing is not to forget.
  • 1 1
 €470... Did they not think we would use a conversion on goggle to figure out thats $552 USD....
I stopped reading after that shortly.
No one wants to wait for their buddy to bleed their dropper on the trail anyways
  • 9 0
 And you, sir, do not understand how to convert Euro pricing into USD pricing. € pricing always includes 19% VAT, wich you'd have, if you wanted to compare the pricings. Then you'D land at something about 465 USD with the current exchange rate. But even that would net be exactly correct.
Apart from that, we do have dedicated USD MSRPs, because you don't even need to buy from us in Germany, but you can buy locally in the US from hundreds of dealers, which are taken care of from our distributor, BTI.
So, feel free to stop reading after seeing whatever you don't like, but maybe get your facts right, first. Please. It's really sad when people rant about something, not knowing that they don't know what they're talking about.
I believe the current MSRP for the 213 is $380 US and $65 for the Alpha remote. I'm to lazy to dig up the USD price list i sheets right now. It's late.
  • 1 2
 Great post! if you buy a Transition you will get this item! Company does not supply a barrel adjuster for the handle bar if it brakes. They make you buy a whole new trigger. Kinda shit if you ask me. I tried using adjusters from multiple bike parts but this one is a one off size. Tiny.....still riding with it broken
  • 4 0
 What part you mean?
This one?
www.bikeyoke.de/en/cable-tensioner.html
And which company are you referring to, that will not supply a barrel adjuster? Transition or BikeYoke?
Our barrel adjuster is a standard barrel adjuster with an M5 thread, so others with an M5 thread will work, even if they are not exactly the same item.
  • 1 0
 I really like the combativeness of this Sacki character. There's something inspirational about a guy who takes pride in his crappy job. Revive 2.0 ordered.
  • 2 0
 that saddle angle looks, err, challenging..
  • 1 0
 I was thinking that... unless you spend your life going uphill surely that feels horrid?
  • 1 0
 cant see me wanting to pay double the price of a one up for an extra 3mm of drop, and more insertion depth to be honest
  • 6 1
 Perfectly valid point. As long as you're happy with your One-Up (or any other dropper for that matter), there is not really a real reason to change. A post needs to go up and down and stay in position. As long as it reliable does exactly that, why change?
However, there are other people with other experiences. And those people might appreciate our desigg and philosophy.
  • 3 1
 Please make a 250 mm drop version, then take my money!
  • 1 0
 FYI, "outer cable", is actually referred to as shifter or derailleur cable housing.
  • 1 1
 Please PLEASE never use the word "comfy" i hear that word in relation to mountain biking and it makes me hate the sport more than pricing.
  • 1 0
 There is no "wired" reverb haha
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 Honestly, I'll never go back to a bike yoke again after having the new cartridge style droppers from PNW/OneUp. My experience with my last revive was it's solid for a year or so, then the action starts getting slow and the only service you can really do is replace the seals which won't help things much. Compared with my OneUp where replacing the cartridge effectively makes it a brand new dropper again…
  • 7 0
 I am happy for anyone who is happy with his gear, not matter which brand it is from. I am not saying 100% of our droppers feel exactly the same or are 100% trouble free.
But saying that "the only service you can do is replace the seals" is just plain wrong.
In fact, replacing the seals is actually the last thing you need to do, if your dropper starts moving slowly. The lower tube service, which takes about 10 minutes (recommended at least every 12 months) is all you need to do and does not even require any actualy spares, for the first 1-2 times.
Cleaning and regreasing will do in most cases before pins and wipers actually start to wear. That being said, of course it depends on the conditions and environment you are using the post in.
I am very sure, this would have helped in your case, too.
  • 1 0
 send it to performanceshock - they rebuild them....
  • 1 0
 @Sacki: Just passing on what multiple shops have told me. Effectively that they can do the service, it'll cost a bunch, and in their experience it won't improve the action. On my Ibis Ripley the Bike Yoke Revive was by far the most troublesome part on the bike and required constant attention and led to me missing multiple group rides when I'd pull it off the rack only for the dropper to decide it didn't want to play that day. Glad other people have enjoyed theirs, but I wouldn't purchase one again nor pick a factory build that had one on it.
  • 2 1
 Just thought i'd drop this post here, hope it goes down well...
  • 2 0
 Swamp hoppers?! Jfc
  • 2 1
 X-fusion manic FTW. Seriously.
  • 2 1
 posts need setback for fit & adjustability. this one strikes out too.
  • 1 0
 Best bike post I've ever used!
  • 2 1
 Can we please have a Revive Max in 213 drop?
  • 4 0
 As mentioned before:
Give it 2-3 more weeks and you may get a pleasent surprise. ;-)
  • 1 0
 @Sacki: Greetings from a happy customer. The insert length will be the same as for the 31.6?
  • 1 0
 @Simpancz: Happy to hear! Japp, min Insel will be same as on the standard REVIVE 213.
  • 1 1
 Did anyone else notice that there’s a typo on the seatpost? “Cabie length gauge”
  • 1 0
 Drop it like its hot
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 Sorry, but oneups dropper is still the best(taking into account price etc)
Why have we tried to go super complicated with a bloody air shaft system. Its a bloody dropper post. Goes up an down. Use larger pins when it wears.
  • 12 6
 What bloody air shaft system in a bloody dropper are you talking about?
You don't know a lot about how droppers post actually work, do you?
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flag kobold (Aug 23, 2021 at 7:23) (Below Threshold)
 @Sacki: you mad bro?
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 @Monsterman156: Just trying to figure out, what he (mtbrekracer) means with bloody air shaft. He used the temr blood twice, not me. :-)
Apart from that, I just don't know, what he is referring to, when is mentioning "complexity" and "air shaft", as if these two things were directly related.
It just seems like he is throwing around fancy words without any context, not really knowing what he is talkiing about. That's why I was asking him to elaborate, what exaclty he means.
  • 1 0
 @Sacki: then clearly you dont, they use air and oil to operate... AIR moves the post - you add or remove air to determin return speed... i suppose an air fork doesnt use an air shaft either?
  • 1 1
 @mtbtrekracer:
If not with an air shaft, how would you make a dropper post? I don't get your point.
And then, what exactly is the problem of an air shaft?
I'm really curious and would like to understand where you're coming from.
  • 2 0
 @Sacki: oh my, you still dont get it, im saying a dropper is just an air shaft system - brands seem to compete for who can make the most expensive version of a simple $9 USD shaft system.
  • 4 0
 @mtbtrekracer: I'm assuming you don't know who it is you're talking to.....
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 @mtbtrekracer: Oh, now I got what you wanted to say. I totally misread the meaning of the sentence. sorry!
However, a dropper post is much more than an airshfaft system. We are not talking about a fork here - or an office chair, what many other people bring up for that matter - and people finally need to understand that. We are talkling about a hydraulic lock out system, driven by air pressure, which needs to stay in place wihing millimeters of what it is adjusted to and not move. and it needs to do so reliably.
And making this in a reliable way is far away from being simple or cheap. Well, you can do it cheap, but then 50% customers will have good experience and the other 50% will have bad experience (don't nail me down on these exact numbers, but you get the point. We are focusing on design and qualitiy and reliability and usability and we are seeing a documneted failure rate of a total of 2% (including structural, mechanical, hydraulic failures), which is extremely low for a suspension product. Still every failure annoys me persoinally, because it sucks for the custoemr (and me and our service centers, because it is work I'd like to avoid) and we're trying to get better. You won't reach these numbers with a cheaply produced dropper.
  • 5 6
 Bike Yoke, we make stuff your bike wants but you can't afford
  • 1 4
 sorry but oneup still holds the best buy crown and not sure why you'd want anything else, especially value wise.
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