Review: 2021 Canyon Sender CFR - DH Bike Week

Feb 17, 2021
by Dan Roberts  







The Sender platform debuted way back in 2016 and signalled its intentions as a full-on race bike with the onset of a factory DH race team from Canyon.

For the first half of 2020 we were inundated with photos from professional to potato quality of the new bike as everyone tried to figure out the changes.

When the full curtain was lifted we saw that Canyon sought to refine rather than redesign. That race focus still remained, though, with Canyon making a big point of it when the new bike was launched and highlighting their focus on making the Sender lighter, more controlled and ultimately faster.
Sender CFR Details

Rear wheel travel: 201mm
Fork travel: 200mm
Wheel size: 29" / 27.5" (S & M), 29" (L & XL)
Material: Carbon fiber main frame, chainstay & seatstay, aluminum links
Sizes: S, M, L (tested) & XL
Weight: 15.77kg / 34.77lbs (L, w/o pedals)
Price: €5,799 / $5,799 USD
More info: canyon.com

Armed with the German precision like checklist of improved areas from the prior three years of development, it was time to go through that list piece by piece and see if the new Sender delivered on all the claims.







bigquotesI told myself, loud and clear, that I had no business doing the speeds I was first run on the Sender, only to ignore my own concerns and keep pushing all the way down, leaning harder into turns and gapping in all the places you usually need some time to build up to do. Dan Roberts





Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
The Sender's silhouette is familiar to that of the previous bike, although with so many tweaks all over that it really isn't similar at all.


Construction and Features

As with all the bikes on test, the Sender CFR painted a familiar silhouette to its predecessor, but with many smaller details all over the carbon fiber composite frame that add up to a big change.

The shock is now mounted on the down tube and frees up the top tube to drop some weight from reinforcement. The down tube needs overall less reinforcement due to its importance of already being a stiff and strong part of the backbone of the bike. It also allowed the whole bike to drop down and become even more low slung.

The changes to layout were accompanied by Canyon matching the overall stiffness of the new bike to the old bike while equalizing the individual stiffness of the mainframe and rear of the bike.

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The Sender is adjustable at both ends, with all the necessary parts being captive to change the chainstay length...
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...as well as the reach up front, via the aluminum drop in headset inserts.

At the rear of the bike, there's now a carbon fiber composite chainstay and seatstay to drop weight, something that Canyon had high up on its priority list. Canyon claims a drop in frame weight of 650g compared to the old bike, with 300g of this coming from the mainframe, 200g coming from the rear triangle and 150g coming from the aluminum links that drive the shock.

All the pivot threads are in replaceable aluminum hardware parts that are held captive in the frame with some small bolts, a touch that Canyon attributed to the Sender not only being a bike that they designed for the racers, but also the race mechanics. All these little parts are available to purchase as spares in the Canyon web shop. In addition, all of those pivots are sealed away from the elements to keep them debris free and running smooth.

Cable routing is all internal on the Sender, with moulded in tubes to make routing easier. A short section is external, as the cables pass from mainframe to chainstay, and does sit right in the firing line of crud and scissor back and forth as the bike cycles through its travel.

Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Throughout all the pivots, the Sender has replaceable inserts that, if you bugger up the thread, can easily be replaced.
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There's a sizeable plastic down tube protector that actually hides the lower shock link pivot.

Canyon use their own brake mount on the Sender that is for 200mm rotors and bolts into the back of the seatstay. Its detachable nature comes from the sheer amount of adjustability that is built into the Sender. Out back there are adjustable chainstays, and up front chamfered drop in aluminum inserts can adjust the bike's reach.

Frame protection is also well thought out with the lowest pivot in the down tube being hidden by a large bolt on plastic protector and the chainstay having moulded rubber protection top and bottom stuck on and extending to all the potential areas the chain could hit. There’s some on the underside of the seatstay too and some clear film around the dropout area to ward off heel rub, although it’s not the most secured and came flying off with some pressure from the hose.

No matter where I was, people went out of their way to tell me that the Sender was a nice looking bike, and I agree. Although that focus on design from Canyon is something that we'll touch on later.





Canyon Sender CFR Geometry Table Faded
The Sender CFR's geometry table is a big one, please click here for the full table.


Geometry & Sizing

The Sender comes in four sizes from S to XL and with a pretty extensive geometry table that outlines everything from suggested rider size to the seat heights that they took to offset the seat tube for the various sizes.

It’s another bike that also matches a lot of current enduro and trail bikes for reach, and as a result the L size was a really comfortable fit for me at 188cm tall.

Canyon have also applied the mullet concept to the Sender, although they’ve applied it to rider height and frame size with the S and M sizes using the smaller rear wheel and even slightly adjusted kinematics to account for the difference in geometry and wheel size.

The S and M bikes then use a 10mm shorter chainstay length than the full 29" L and XL bikes, but both wheel size versions have the ability to add 10mm to the chainstay length with the adjustable chips. Reach can also be adjusted 8mm longer or shorter via the drop in aluminum headset cups.

Our test bike was pretty damn bang on to what Canyon state. With the fork at the 601mm axle to crown and a 110mm head tube length there was a 63° head angle, 487mm reach, 630mm stack and 446 chainstay length in the short setting. There was a 20mm BB drop which gave a 353mm BB height with the quoted 746mm diameter tires, to which the Maxxis Minion DHR II measured exactly.





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Suspension Design

Lots of links, but it’s the same four bar layout as the previous Sender, and Demo, with the two aluminum links driving the shock. On the new Sender these links have grown in size considerably over the previous version.

Canyon's focus in the suspension department was, firstly, to maintain the ability to go comfortably fast on the bike right out of the box. While that’s going to be attributable to a blend of many factors, they did massage the leverage ratio slightly. It starts and finishes at almost the exact same ratios, but there’s a touch more flatness to the end stroke with more of a straight line, or less wiggle, in the first half of travel.

Our test bike had 28% of progression in the leverage ratio, starting at 3.25 and finishing at 2.32. There's a slight bow to the curve starting more progressive and gradually getting more linear towards the end of travel.

They also were pretty keen to show a reduction in pedal kickback. While this is a topic that has been recently and hotly discussed, and with varying degrees of understanding it and its role in the overall feel of a bike, Canyon focussed on dropping it quite a bit and accepting the inevitable drop in anti-squat too.

Anti-squat sits at 75% and anti-rise at 45%, both at 25% shock stroke sag. The latter being fairly constant around the 40% mark throughout travel, while the anti-squat, in a 36 / 18 tooth gear drops to 3% from its starting point of 118%.

There are also adjusted kinematics depending on the wheel size setup you’re running, with two different mount points for the shock in the scissor links. One is labelled 27.5” and one 29”. Secretly they’re a progression adjuster and do naff all to the static geometry.

Putting our full 29" bike into the 27.5" setting on the link chopped the travel down to 193mm and shifted the whole leverage ratio curve downwards, starting at 2.99 and finishing at 2.3 with 23% progression.

Changing to the long chainstay setting does alter the suspension slightly. The travel ups to 203mm, the starting ratio goes up to 3.27 and the curve ends at 2.35.





Specifications
Release Date 2021
Price $5799
Travel 200 / 200
Rear Shock RockShox SuperDeluxe Ultimate DH
Fork RockShox Boxxer Ultimate
Headset Acros AZX-227
Cassette SRAM X01 DH, 7s
Crankarms SRAM X01 DH 36T
Chainguide e*thirteen LG1+
Bottom Bracket SRAM BSA Dub
Chain SRAM PC 1110
Rear Derailleur SRAM X01 DH
Shifter Pods SRAM X01 DH
Handlebar Canyon G5
Stem Canyon G5
Grips Canyon G5 Lock-On
Brakes SRAM Code RSC, 200mm rotors
Hubs DT Swiss 240
Spokes DT Swiss Competition
Rim DT Swiss FR560
Tires Maxxis Minion DHR II 2.4 WT Maxx Grip DH
Seat Ergon SMD20
Seatpost Canyon G5


Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot

The Sender CFR, or Canyon Factory Racing, version we tested was another full SRAM/RockShox affair.

There’s a RockShox Boxxer Ultimate fork, SuperDeluxe shock, SRAM XO1 DH drivetrain and Code RSC brakes, with 200mm rotors front and rear. There’s an e*thirteen chain guide on there too.

DT Swiss provides the wheelset with the FR560, with both 27.5mm internal width rims being set up tubeless with Maxxis Minion DHR II tires with DH casing and 3C Maxx Grip compound.

Touchpoints are Canyon’s own grips and composite bar, aluminum stem and seat post with the saddle being an Ergon offering.

Our size L bike weighed in at 15.77kg or 34.77lbs, the lightest on test, and retails for 5,799 EUR or $5,799 USD.





Bike Setup

Unfortunately, this is another bike that came with no setup help, and with there being a disconnect from perhaps your local shop and a person, it’s likely more important for a direct to consumer brand to be providing a starting point for suspension settings.

The Boxxer was set directly to 130psi, 3 tokens, 7 rebound clicks, 1 high-speed compression and 5 low-speed compression clicks, after already having some time in on the other Boxxer equipped DH test bikes. A little firmer than the recommended settings.

I went for a starting point of 25% sag on the shock which needed 185psi to achieve and a quick car park bounce got me to 6 clicks of rebound. I started with the low-speed compression on the shock in the middle of the range.

There was also an incident with a tree that rendered the carbon fiber bar dead, requiring a swap to an aluminum bar. Upon closer inspection the brake lever clamp had compressed its way through the bar from the contact with the tree.


Dan Roberts // Technical Editor
Age: 34
Location: Champéry, Switzerland
Height: 188cm (6'2”)
Weight: 75kg (165 lbs)
Industry affiliations / sponsors: Garage Bike Project, former engineer at Scott Sports
Instagram: @le_crusher
Test Locations: Champéry, Morgins, Bex, Dorenaz, Chatel, Morzine & Bernex



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Performance

I often feel obliged, if you will, to take a bike down the World Cup track here in Champéry for its first ride. While some might prefer the gentle break in approach, I’ve found the best for me, both in testing and the mental challenges I set myself, is to be jumping right in at the deep end. I know the track well and the bike feelings that I associate with positive, so any glaring issues or areas for improvement become immediately apparent when you don your arm bands, climb up to the highest diving board and gracefully perform a running bomb into the pool below.

With that in mind, I told myself, loud and clear, that I had no business doing the speeds I was first run on the Sender, only to ignore my own concerns and keep pushing all the way down, leaning harder into turns and gapping in all the places you usually need some time to build up to do. It is a seriously impressive bike for its ability to go from squint-eyed car park setup to that pace in such a short space of time. And this is something that all the testers reported with their immediate comfort, and therefore confidence in the bike, being visible from the get go.

There’s a wonderful composure to the ride of the Sender. It manages to just deal with every impact, every scenario on the trail just once and efficiently moves onto the next. It never takes its baggage from the previous scenario into the next. I guess it’s a very German way of dealing with things, but it translates into a bike that can then be thrown down the hill with horrendous speed, its composure lifting your eye line and thoughts to further down the trail and simply just riding, almost devoid of any conscious thought process.

Just like the we'll see with the coming Commencal Supreme DH review, there’s no confusing what the Sender is for. Simply reading the marketing about the bike is enough to understand that it’s a race bike, and so it follows that same single-track mind as the Supreme DH. While the speed can be turned down a notch and you can go hunt out little slashes and jibs on the way down, you’ve the sense of a German somewhere, somewhat displeased in the lack of punctual efficiency that you’re not getting to the bottom with.

It’s not the absolute supplest of suspension feels of the four bikes we tested. There’s a touch more feeling of each impact coming through to you, but it’s not enough to really write home about, as what you may compromise in initial suppleness is more than made up for with composure. With a bike designed to do the speeds that the Sender can, you’re probably not having complete traction at every single second. And up at the ragged edge I would much rather have that chassis stability and composure that the Sender has in bucket loads. Bikes are about balancing compromises.

Canyon Sender CFR Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot

There’s a character change from the two mullet bikes on test too, with there being a balance of feel from the wheel sizes front and back. The flip side is you do notice a benefit in moving your turn in up a few inches and really leaning the bike. It does require ever so slightly more rider input to do this but you’re rewarded with an almost on rails feeling as you carry speed through the entire turn.

I’ll be honest, I didn’t really deviate much from that initial 185psi setup the entire time testing. The low-speed compression did eventually end up close to closed, but that was aligning with the increased familiarity and speed on the bike as time passed. I did try it with a coil shock too, an Öhlins TTX, and settled on a 502lbs spring giving a good balance of support, bottom out and ride height. The coil shock’s inherent suppleness also helped take a bit of the harshness out of the impacts too and add a bit of suppleness to the bike.

The Sender’s adjustability is also really easy to work with and makes a very noticeable difference in the ride. In its longest form, with the adjustable headset and chainstays in their longest position, it ups the stability of the bike and the speed it can do. It does require more input from the rider to manhandle it in this setting, otherwise it can get a little carried away with itself.

In the shortest setting it’s unsurprisingly the opposite feel. While we’ll be calling it the short setting, it certainly isn’t either in reach or chainstay. But the character change is noticeable and there’s a little more liveliness in its step as it responds more to the same amount of input. It’s really nice to have this in a bike, and on the Sender the adjustments aren’t confusing and deal with mainly one aspect of the bike, like reach or chainstay length.

Canyon Sender CFR Photo Kifcat Shaperideshoot

That is apart from the secret progression adjuster in the middle. While I will remind that Canyon state to keep the shock in the corresponding hole to the rear wheel size you have, and there’s no real opportunity to change that wheel size, it does chop the travel down to 193mm and shift the leverage curve down enough to make quite a difference in feel, requiring considerably less spring but introducing a touch more harshness into the initial portion of travel when you land from the air into a rough section of trail. It does give a touch more support in the middle portion of the travel, although this is definitely something that the regular 29” setting has in abundance anyway. It’s still a little confusing as to why Canyon left this option on all the bikes, after going to the lengths of making all the other frame parts bespoke to the wheel and frame sizes.

I spent most of my time on the Sender in the short chainstay setting and middle reach setting. For the steep and tight turns around Champéry and Morgins it yielded the best balance of stability versus maneuverability to speedily get down the tracks while remaining an active part of the ride. But for more flat out, rougher and less steep tracks it's nice to have the option to go longer and would be something that I’d happily spend the 10 minutes changing to take advantage of.





Maintenance

Canyon say that the Sender was a bike also built for their race mechanics, and while some features on the bike do reflect this, a lot of others don’t. Go find me a race mechanic who asks for internal cable routing! I’ve sat with team mechanics in bike development meetings for them to specifically ask me not to have it.

The internal routing on the Sender is guided by moulded tubes in the frame, but where it pops out of the mainframe, before entering the chainstays, is right in that loam shelf region on the bike and the cables scissor back and forth accompanied by the grinding paste like mix of dirt and water, eating into the cables and composite frame.

It suffers the same issue as the Demo too, with the chainstay and links opening up during use, leaving a gaping hole that is filled by debris, only to be crushed when it all closes. I pulled out some sizable rocks that had gotten munched, so it’s worth fashioning an extra fender or keeping an eye on that area.

Another area to keep an eye on is the lower link, buried deep in the mainframe. To give that area a good clean it needs a full strip down, and it will need a clean as the mud and debris from riding collect there and again get scissored around against the frame.

There’s also an alarming amount of flex in the frame along the upper aluminum link and where it connects to the mainframe. That mainframe connection is quite thin and without a through axle due to the shock in the way. You can easily feel and see the flex in the link and in the connection when you grab the seat tube and tire and flex the two back and forth.

The sealed pivots are a good touch, though, and keep the bearings fresher for longer. And the fender between the two upright links is well made and keys into the links when you assemble the bike. You don't need three pairs of hands and a degree to work on the bike, and it's a fairly quick process to strip it down without disconnecting the hoses.

The Sender is a race bike, no doubt. But that also extends to its need for care week in week out to keep it working at its best and not eating itself. In the way that a MotoGP bike is given a regular strip down by dedicated mechanics, you need to look after your Sender.





Technical Report

2021 Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
The bottom roller on the e*thirteen guide adds quite a bit of drag and noise.
Canyon Sender CFR Photo Ga tan Rey Shaperideshoot
Maxxis Minion DHR II tires front and back were a good all around tire, with only something slightly more spikey needed when the ground got really wet and soft.

e*thirteen Chain Guide: While I am a fan of having the bash guard protection on a DH bike, the full chain guide added a noticeable amount of drag and noise into the pedalling equation, far more so than the idler pulley on the Commencal Supreme. Some of the other bikes came with chain guides that didn't have the bottom roller and there was much less drag and noise while still having no dropped chains.

Maxxis DH Tires: It's nice to just pump up tires and go, and the DH casing 3C Maxx Grip Minion DHR IIs do a fantastic job. It's also a really good front tire, in the right conditions, and provides big paddle-like braking traction while having the same leant over cornering feel as the Minion DHF. The soft compound is much appreciated, but just be aware that it doesn't last long.

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SRAM's Code RSCs were powerful and had a good lever shape, but got a touch inconsistent and noisy on the longest and steepest of the steeps.
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Getting the bike setup out of the box was a little less direct with the lack of setup guide.

SRAM Code Brakes: Three of the four bikes we tested came with Codes, and there's really good power in both the 220mm and 200mm rotors along with nice lever ergonomics. But when dragged down some of the longest and steepest tracks they did change their feel and if you stopped for a mid track break they would be as loud as a wailing banshee when you dropped back in.

Setup Guide: I'll be sounding like I have a bee in my bonnet, but DH bikes arguably go the fastest of any bike, and so being set up correctly on them is a priority. While the Sender didn't actually need that much tinkering to find a good setup, it's still up to the customer to figure it out. The resulting bike feel, be that good or bad, reflects not only on the bike itself but the brand too.





Pros

+ Utmost composure in every situation
+ Fantastic and adjustable geometry
+ Big bang for your buck
Cons

- Some frame details don't inspire confidence in longevity
- Needs a good maintenance schedule
- Lack of setup guide





Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesIt's not very often you can do the quickest of setups only to be going horrendously fast minutes later without a care in the world. Something that happened time and time again on the Sender CFR. Its steadfast composure in every and all situations and, more importantly, at breakneck speeds is mightily impressive and wholly addictive.

The Sender is a race bike in every sense of the word and needs some regular care and attention like many highly strung race machines. Look after it and it will plaster a grin to your face ride after ride.
Dan Roberts







115 Comments

  • 105 10
 2nd DH bike review in 2 days, thank you PB you made my day once again !
  • 270 0
 Anyone would think it was DH bike week or something
  • 57 0
 @twopoint6khz: remember when every week was DH week on pinkbike?
  • 9 0
 @pasteque51 Hold on to your pants!
  • 10 0
 Love it! Great reviews, great content, Dan!

We definitely need more DH bike reviews. There is a market for these bikes and they drive the development of MTB.

For someone who lives in the alps or near lift-access bike parks in general it’s a no brainer to own a DH bike IMO.
  • 4 0
 @5afety3rd: I do, way back in 2001!
  • 10 0
 @5afety3rd: Pepperidge Farm remembers
  • 3 0
 @5afety3rd: I do... round about the same time I used to own a DH bike. Sad face.
  • 1 0
 @c-lion: you should adopt me so that I too could have a no brainer DH sled
  • 9 17
flag HendersonMike (Feb 17, 2021 at 17:29) (Below Threshold)
 @pasteque51,
your comments deserves way more than 86 LIKES! To me, the only Mountain Bike is a Downhill Bike, every Mountain Bike other than a DH Bike is just a "Compromised DH Bike".

If it were me, I would change the names of every Mountain Bike Category to the Following:
Downhill Bikes - Downhill Bikes (No Name Change)
Enduro Bikes - Compromised Downhill Bike
Trail Bikes - Extra Compromised Downhill Bike
XC Bikes - Retarded DH Bikes (Retard just means slow, so please no one be offended)
Hardtail - NOT a Mountain Bike, just a Road Bike that can ride on the dirt.
  • 6 1
 @HendersonMike: I am offended. At you calling hardtails not a mountain bike!
  • 2 0
 @5afety3rd: 100% this^^
  • 56 3
 DH bike reviews rule. Whether it's a high end carbon team issue model or a budget minded aluminium 27.5 park bike these reviews rule.

Serious question without sounding like a downbuzz, but in real life how many of us are in the market for a carbon 29'er DH bike?
  • 42 4
 I am, and sender is top of my list. Prices have gone up because of Brexshit though...
  • 33 0
 Not me, but I do like reading about them.
  • 28 1
 I'm in the market for one!
  • 22 0
 C'mon mate, I'm not on youtube watching car reviews on Honda Civics. But I certainly can't afford this Mclaren F1..... 'types 'Toyota Prius reviews' into search bar'
  • 3 1
 Carbon can also mean lighter, my demo is almost 2.5kg heavier than this canyon... But yes each time they sell one they must sell 20 ebikes
  • 7 0
 Also in the market for one, praying the Frenchies open the lifts this summer. Otherwise, I'll be trying to sneak to Champery (and make sure I don't get in Mr Roberts way and don't crash in front of him again...).
  • 9 0
 Already got one (2019 GT Fury Pro) and it's a rocketship that is far more capable of anything I can throw at it! Now I just need all this COVID drama to be over so I can finally get it out of England and to some real mountains! Buying it in Feb 2020 turned out to be an epic fail on my part
  • 2 2
 Never again. Got a Geometron G1 with a Fox38 and EXT damper. Takes care of everything but I can also pedal it (already nice just to pedal to the lift in Morzine).
  • 4 0
 I am. And even if I don't race anymore, I like to renew my bikes every 2 years. So I do own a DH 29 Carbon bike (Pivot) right now. And I love it!
  • 4 0
 If I had literally ANY more money I would buy one if at all possible
  • 4 0
 While I do love reading about the bikes, the reviews are also a harsh reminder that I don't have enough talent to get the most out of a modern DH bike.
  • 1 0
 Not anymore, I bought one last year.
  • 1 0
 @ajl-mtb: Sucks to be in the UK, I got my '19 Fury in March and it made my summer (~30 bike park days).
  • 4 2
 If you ripping on a 29 DH rig you are A) 8 ft tall or B) a racer or both. No hate just an observation
  • 2 0
 I got my 27.5 carbon dh ike last year so I guess I'm not looking now
  • 1 0
 I am
  • 4 9
flag freeinpg (Feb 17, 2021 at 8:50) (Below Threshold)
 DH bikes are a blast, but to me only have meaningful performance gains(over enduro weapons) on a small percentage of trails while being much less useable. Versatility FTW! That said these reviews are awesome to behold.
  • 1 0
 Riding a carbon 27.5 but if I would have had the the option it would be 29!
  • 4 0
 @freeinpg:

I'll meaningly perform all over you, if you tried to hang on my trails on a wimpy enduro bike
  • 2 0
 got a session 9.9 29er last year so, not at this moment. But always willing to see reviews and check which might be my next one.
  • 2 0
 I'm not even in to bikes ... =D
  • 2 0
 I bought this bike to race in Colorado and New Mexico...Stoked to see a review up finally it's just been sitting next to my stationary bike while we wait for warmer days.
  • 1 0
 I own one and plan on getting another for the 2022 race season
  • 2 0
 @BigMulaCeazy: ugh so jealous! I used to live in BC but my month holiday last summer was cancelled so I missed out on epic WBP days, Coast Gravity Park and Cypress shuttle laps with friends. The way things are shaping up I'm unlikely to be able to visit this year either, but hopefully I'll get out to the Alps this summer (not holding my breath)!
  • 2 0
 @sirnigel: Agree. I purchased the identical bike on test in a medium and cost me £6300 delivered. Was holding out for a YT Tues but YT really have screwed everything up so badly and for so long and the constant excuses are wearing thin. My bike came direct from Germany to the UK in less than 2 weeks.
Agree with the initial setup, the instructions are crap and I also got a 2" thick user guide in a bazillion languages. Funnily enough, all of the literature had nothing to do with the Sender CFR. I love the bike though even with a slightly noisy lower roller on the bash guard.
  • 1 0
 @Rakeboy: I'll be looking at the FMD model, when it was released it was nearly £1000 cheaper! It's really above my budget but there aren't many other options with the spec I want!
  • 1 0
 Recently picked up an aluminum 27.5 and can't say I'd ever be in the market for a carbon 29er DH bike. Atleast not until I have to
  • 1 0
 I wish I were but can’t justify spending that type of cash on something I would only use limited times a year. Love my enduro bike that sees +150 days of use but would be pretty awesome rippin one of these on a regular basis if I lived close to a bike park. I’ll keep playing the lottery though as you never know! One of these would be something I would be right away.
  • 1 0
 @s-to-the-r: I bought an enduro even though i shuttle or go to the park a little more than half the time. I just need the option to pedal, especially since its my only bike. If i could get two i would get the dh bike and an enduro bike, then a dirt jumper third. Idk not being able to go uphill is just impossible even if you mostly ride park
  • 1 0
 @skimtb1: sounds filthy....bring it on!
  • 2 0
 @sirnigel: +Rep for you, just for the "Brexshit!"
  • 44 0
 I really enjoy the depth of @dan-roberts reviews. They go beyond the usual spec/climb/descend/bottle (all important, mind) and include analysis into the design tradeoffs and the maintenance side of things.
  • 32 0
 It’s worth checking out the Aluminium Sender, fraction of the price, no shock linkage to go wrong, cable routing in Downtube protector, Metric coil shock, Adjustable geometry, mines been bombproof. Just a thought
  • 2 0
 X2 on this. Love mine and it’s been faultless.
  • 9 1
 And come's in 27.5
  • 1 5
flag Freeshreding (Feb 17, 2021 at 10:10) (Below Threshold)
 I know Somebody who broke the Alu Sender so nope
  • 17 0
 @Freeshreding: My uncles best mate's Sisters long lost relative knew Michael Jackson
  • 2 0
 @Freeshreding: I broke two Guerilla Gravity's and a GT Fury. It happens.
  • 15 1
 "Unfortunately, this is another bike that came with no setup help, and with there being a disconnect from perhaps your local shop and a person, it’s likely more important for a direct to consumer brand to be providing a starting point for suspension settings."

Just Send'er and figure out the damper settings after the crash down the Canyon.
  • 14 0
 Dammit , I don’t NEED a dh bike but I’m so gonna buy one
  • 2 0
 Haha I already have one, but it's 'old' and now I want a new one.
  • 3 0
 @streetkvnt-kvlt: I sold mine years ago and where I live a trail bike rules, still need one though
  • 4 1
 I've contemplated a DH bike for years but can't justify it for the 4-5 uplift days.
  • 5 0
 @sewer-rat. Do it. You won’t regret it
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 @fatduke: I sold my DH bike for that reason. Now I rent a brand new one every time I go to the bike park. At the cost of rental, it would take 7-8 years before you recouped the cost of a new bike. Plus you don’t have any tire or parts maintenance, so the break even point becomes much longer. This only works if your local bike park has good bikes for rent. Mine carries Commencal, Santa Cruz and Specialized, so I get good bikes every time. My favorite is the Commencal Supreme DH 29er so far.
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 @endoguru: The nearest fun one is Revs and due to the lockdown I never went last year.
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 @endoguru: The rental thing is a nice option, but as we found out last season when my bro & friend did it, it doesn't guarantee a well set up or maintained bike. First run out and they were both frustrated at how terrible those $8K bikes performed, it took me a solid 30 mins of adjustments to get them even close to comfortable for the riders. There's something to be said about owning a decent bike ('19 Supreme demo unit in my case) with geo and suspension dialed perfectly, and having intimate knowledge of what to expect in any scenario to make each run as enjoyable as it can be.
We all learned something that day, and I promised them a better experience next time.
Kind of soured me on trying it and reinforced my choice to make that investment.
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 @skidrumr: Good points. I guess it does come down to how good the shop is that is renting the bikes. I do most of my DH riding at Angel Fire Bike Park and Clay and the boys at that shop know how to set up the bikes. I’ve also ridden lots of Fox and Rockshox suspension so I know my ballpark settings fairly well. There is nothing like your personal bike dialed in just how you like it, though.
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 @fatduke: have you tried DYFI bike park, it is definitely worth a day out, i have been to revo many times but i think dyfi is going to be the best place in the uk the way its being developed
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 @mark3: no was gonna go last year but covid.
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 Any thoughts on the Super Deluxe air shock generally as a DH component @danroberts? How does it compare to the X2, the DBair or the Vivid Air?
It always seems incongruous to me that it's specced on trail bikes and DH bikes, suggesting the latter might be left undergunned - but is that an unjustified prejudice? Or is there a gap at the top of RS range?
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 My interpretation was that the Ohlins TTX is better...
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 @rojo-1: As you'd bloody well expect Big Grin
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 Commenting so I get notified about a reply if it comes.
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 Well it is difficult to beat the feeling of a coil shock, and while RS is trying to hit a certain price point, Ohlins/Fox certainly are not. The RS is great but you get more adjustment out of the Fox and Ohlins. Not to mention the TT technology that Ohlins uses that you won't find anywhere else.
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 @DAN-ROCKS: My impression is that Fox definitely do build their products to price points, they just happen to be very high prices here in the UK.
And Fox and Cane Creek also offer twin-tube damping, with CC having licensed the design from Ohlins to bring it to DH in the first place (with the awesome CCDB way back in 2005).
Part of the thinking behind my question was that the SuperDeluxe doesn't quite feel on par with those shocks in terms of design features and perhaps performance (albeit only based on a couple of short rides I've had on enduro bikes).
But this may be my misconception and hopefully @dan-roberts can enlighten us.
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 It doesn't seem to hold Amaury Pierron back!
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 @chakaping: What!!!!! I didn't know CC came up with twin tube! I thought Ohlins brought it from autos. Thats so cool! It makes sense now that I think of it. Looking again at Fox's technical diagrams I see they also use twin tube technology on their piggyback shocks at least. Fox is still aiming for a price point, although it is much less of a consideration in making the final product is what i mean
  • 1 0
 It's actually the opposite. The Super Deluxe is overkill (or realiable, as i prefer to call it) for most trail bikes as shown by the test that @tabletop84 linked just above, and it's success on the worll cup.
  • 5 0
 @dan-roberts reviews are worth celebrating. His engineering (and shredding) background is apparent but what is just as impressive is his ability to layman-ize his observations so they are also relevant and interesting for the less-discerning rider. Mad props. More!
  • 9 1
 Sender? I hardly know her!
  • 4 0
 thanks for this review. I will be interested to read difference between the Demo as it look like same suspension system. DH review make my poor week shine a bit
  • 4 0
 Cons: Lack of setup guide

Summary: "It's not very often you can do the quickest of setups only to be going horrendously fast minutes later without a care in the world."
  • 2 0
 Noisy brakes after a mid-run pause isn't the brakes, it's the compound. I've experienced this many times with the stock sintered compound supplied with Codes (and Guides). Changed to my preferred organic compound, problem solved.
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 @dan-roberts’ reviews are so well articulated and organized. His engineering (and shredding) background is clear but equally impressive is his ability to layman-ize his observations so they are relevant and informative to the less-discerning rider. The review seems self-aware and actively cultivates a more global interest in the bike being tested, regardless of an interested reader’s bike skills. That is a rare thing to achieve. Mad props. More please!
  • 2 0
 Canyon would be good bikes if any of my friends bikes weren't snapped in two, welded by a racoon and pivots exploded. just my experience with the build quality, something is really off, hope they fixed it!
  • 2 0
 Seen too many snapped Canyons or ones with bearing play
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 This just sounds like a bad idea - needs a maintenance schedule- yet no Canadian dealers to do it . Needs set up tech - yet no Canadian dealers to give insight and help. Considering that specialty outfits like Suspension werx have local shop appointment priorities just gives more reason to buy local - or 2nd hand ( maintenance history) ... ( i live in Vancouver/ ride the shore - maintenance and insight are key if you dont want parts delays )
  • 3 0
 All bikes need those replaceable thread inserts. Would make screwing things into the frame so much less terrifying.
  • 2 0
 Would be a great idea if Canyon had any customer service to speak of. Better to save your money for a company that cares about their customers.
  • 4 0
 More maintenance sections in reviews please! Love this.
  • 2 0
 I'm not particularly into DH but your reviews are superb. Detailed but not over geeky, interesting, well written and unabiased. Great work Smile
  • 2 1
 Looks like a Demo/Enduro. This thing with a few tweaks would probably make for dope enduro bike actually. Specialized and Nukeproof have already figured that out in adopting their DH bike layouts to enduro rigs.
  • 5 0
 It does NOT look like a demo or enduro. This came out in 2016. The demo and enduro look like the sender
  • 1 0
 Nukeproof? Did someone say Nukeproof? I just want a pair of those @nukeproof pants he's rockin'
  • 1 0
 Maintenance: You can see the link flex...
-> so what is the maintenance needed?

If the bike rides good and the parts are not getting damaged by the flex it is not an issue and has nothing to do with maintenance, has it?
  • 1 0
 I gotta say your reviews Dan are super detailed and a great read. Keep them coming! I really like the format with maintenance tips and everything and could see this being used effectively on other review types across PB.
  • 1 0
 Will those replaceable inserts be available to people or will you get the generous offer to buy a complete frame at half the list price?
  • 1 0
 Pros: Big bang for buck.
Cons: Needs a good maintenace schedule and frame details don't inspire confidence in longevity.

Well, there goes the bang for buck then.
  • 4 2
 If you don’t like it, you could always sender back
  • 5 3
 Classic Canyon - good design, rides great, falls to pieces.
  • 2 0
 Would be nice to have a video as well Smile
  • 2 0
 Brosnan for 2021 WC Champ!
  • 1 0
 This guy does an excellent job reviewing bikes. More of this guy and less of the others.
  • 1 0
 Its a rolling Sex Machine!
  • 1 0
 I'm waiting for that new sexy Propain Rage!
  • 1 0
 A beautiful bike that Sender is!
  • 1 0
 Waiting for new Canyon Capra with new Geo
  • 1 0
 Sender? I barely know her!
  • 1 0
 Ouch... 2 pounds lighter than my Raaw Madonna, with proper DH tires too...
  • 1 0
 Lighter and with a steeper effective seat angle than my trail bike.
  • 1 0
 stoked to see a non-puke/pastel colored bike as well. Nicely done Canyon.
  • 1 0
 No water bottle no purchase for me Smile
  • 1 0
 The stat sheet says Guide RSC brakes appears to be a typo
  • 1 0
 Send (h)er!
  • 1 1
 Overcomplicated with potential reliability issues. Definitely German.
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