Review: Canyon Spectral WMN CF 9.0

Nov 19, 2018
by Sarah Moore  
Just a couple months after Canyon introduced the redesigned Spectral, they introduced a women's specific version. Canyon designed the Spectral WMN for women who want a playful trail bike that can still be taken on fairly rowdy terrain. The high-end, sleek, ninja-like bike I received has a hint of sparkles on the top tube that help set it apart as a women's model, but much more is different on this do-it-all trail bike than the colour of the paint, including an entirely different frame.

Canyon has gone all in with the women's version of the Spectral, offering three different frames: full carbon, a carbon front triangle and aluminum chainstays, and full aluminum, with prices ranging from $2,399 to $6,000 USD. All of the models have 27.5" wheels, with 140mm of rear travel and 150mm up front. There are three spec levels available in the US, and five available in Europe.
Canyon Spectral WMN CF 9.0 SL

• Intended use: trail
• Travel: 140mm rear / 150mm front
• Wheel size: 27.5"
• Frame construction: Carbon fiber
• Head angle: 65.9
• Chainstay length: 430mm (M)
• Sizes: XS, S, M
• Weight: 27.6lbs (12.5 kg)
• Price: $6,000 USD / €4,999
• More info: www.canyon.com
@Canyon-PureCycling


bigquotesThe high-end, sleek, ninja-like bike I received has a hint of sparkles on the top tube that help set it apart as a women's model, but much more is different on this do-it-all trail bike than the colour of the paint, including an entirely different frame.Sarah Moore



Canyon Women s Spectral
Carbon frame, carbon cranks, carbon wheels, carbon bars all tied together in a black on more black package - this isn't your average women's bike.





Canyon Women s Spectral
It's all in the details. Canyon has done a really nice job with the cable routing, while making it easy to service.
Canyon Women s Spectral
The cables look like they're internally routed from the side, but they're actually integrated into the plastic downtube protection.


Construction and Features


The Spectral WMN has the same distinctly modern aesthetic that other Canyon models do, with the signature "swoosh" in the downtube being even more pronounced on this women's model since it has greater standover height. The redesigned frame comes with 2.6" wide tires, something that wasn't common just a couple years ago.

Impact Protection Unit: The IPU was designed to protect the top tube from being damaged by the handlebar thanks to an integrated limit stop. It's a bit redundant on the size medium bike for that purpose, since the handlebars are so far above the top tube, but it does ensure that the housing doesn't rip off in a crash. You can still turn the handlebar a good 90°.

Integrated Seatpost Clamp: The seamless integration of the seatpost clamp gives the bike a clean, modern look, and Canyon claims it helps reduce the number of parts susceptible to wear and tear.


Canyon Women s Spectral
Integrated seatpost clamp
Canyon Women s Spectral
Canyon's Impact Protection Unit


Fully Sealed Industrial Bearings: To hold up over seasons of riding in wet and dry conditions alike, the frame is equipped with fully sealed industrial bearings. In addition, each pivot has additional X-ring seals to avoid premature wear caused by water and dirt penetration. The main pivot also has two bearings on the drive side to cope with the higher loads due to chain tension and the asymmetric design of the linkage.


Canyon Spectral WMN
Sealed bearings
Canyon Spectral WMN
Integrated cable channel


Integrated Cable Channel: Instead of true internally routed cables through the frame, all carbon and aluminum models of the Spectral WMN come with their newly developed integrated cable channel. The plastic channel seamlessly merges into the frame for a clean look and provides clear and secure channels for all of the cables. It can easily be removed for servicing with Allen keys and also serves as a bash guard to protect your bike from big hits.


Canyon Spectral WMN
The Eject System
Canyon Spectral WMN
The Storage Box


Waterbottle Compatible: On the size medium I tested, a regular bottle fits with no issues. For the XXS and XS frames, Canyon developed a new solution: The Eject System. This is two 400 ml bottles that attach to either side of the frame and is an extra fee at check out.

Storage Box: The storage box that fits on the front end of the main triangle fits a tube and a CO2 cartridge or a sandwich and a bar. It's available for an additional fee on size S and M frames.


Geometry & Sizing

While they haven't created an entirely new brand, Canyon draws parallels with Liv on their women's line, where they don't just change paint schemes and touchpoints; they alter the mould and geometry entirely on their women's bikes. Katrin Neumann, Canyon Women's Bikes Product Manager, said that if they could develop and adjust the bike even slightly to better accommodate their female riders, it was worth it.

They used the data from the Perfect Positioning System (PPS) on their website which collects six key data points (height, weight, inseam, shoulder width, torso length, arm length) to determine the key differences between men and women. Canyon has access to 68,000 sets of measurements from riders across all disciplines. The data showed that women are on average shorter in height, have shorter arms in relation to torso length, have narrower shoulders, are lighter and have a lower center of gravity.
Canyon Spectral WMN

There's a shorter reach on the women's bikes (430mm on the Medium I'm riding compared to a 440mm reach on the men's Spectral), they've increased the amount of standover on the women's model, and the bottom bracket heights are lowered by 0.5cm on the smaller frame sizes to accommodate these differences. There are also different touch points on the women's bikes, including women's grips and saddles, and a narrower 740mm handlebar.

Interestingly, Canyon developed all sizes around the Small size, instead of around the traditional Medium frame. Taller women will have to look elsewhere, though, as the sizing is limited to XS, S, and M in the carbon version (the aluminum versions add XXS). Canyon believes this should fit women who range from 4'8" (148cm) in height to 5'9" (179cm) in height. They found that the range of sizes required for female riders is different to that required for men, with the majority of female riders requiring XS and S bikes.


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Suspension Design


As for the suspension, the linkage has the same horizontally-placed shock as the mainline Spectral, which completely readjusts the placement of the pivot points and sets the shock in a more horizontal position compared to the rocker configuration on the previous generation Spectral. Canyon says that this change was inspired by the lessons they'd learned during the development of their Sender DH bike.

On the Spectral WMN, Canyon say they've tuned the kinematics to offer better performance on the trail for lighter female riders. Canyon doesn't collect rider weight in their PPS system, so they don’t have their own data regarding body weight, but the research they did in addition to the feedback from sports scientists and physiotherapists led them to believe that women are, on average, 15% lighter than men at a comparable body height. This is caused by a different constitution and muscle – body fat ratio.

Canyon's goals with the design were to strike a balance between efficient acceleration and pedalling, while keeping the rear end active and in contact with the ground under heavy braking to maintain traction. Shorter shocks than those equipped on the men’s models are used, which Canyon claims provides a different leverage curve that is even more responsive in the first phase, while still using the full potential of the 140 mm rear travel.

The kinematics on the Spectral WMN have been specifically tuned for the lower weights of female riders and have what Canyon calls "Triple Phase Suspension." The graph shows how the kinematics of the Spectral WMN (upper curve) compare with the men's Spectral (lower curve).

Canyon Spectral WMN
Phase 1 — Response: The linkage transmits high power at the start of the stroke to effectively engage the air shock upon first contact with the trail. Canyon claims that the result is outstanding responsiveness, small bump sensitivity and traction around the sag point.

Phase 2 — Stability: Through the mid-stroke the suspension provides a stable platform to reduce momentum loss. Canyon says that this allows the rider to actively pump for more speed and make exacting line choices.

Phase 3 — Ramp: Canyon says that the end of the stroke ramps up progressively to avoid blowing through the travel and to give the suspension a bottomless feel. By installing volume spacers, the rider can further tune the shock’s progression to their needs.




Specifications

Specifications
Price $5999
Travel 140mm
Rear Shock Fox Factory Float DPS Evol
Fork Fox Factory 34 Float Kashima
Headset Canyon / Acros
Cassette SRAM XG-1275 Eagle 12 speed
Crankarms SRAM X1 Eagle Carbon
Bottom Bracket SRAM GXP
Rear Derailleur SRAM X0-1 Eagle 12 speed
Chain SRAM GX Eagle
Shifter Pods SRAM X0-1 Eagle 12 speed
Handlebar Canyon H23 Riserbar CF
Stem Canyon V12
Grips Ergon GE1 Slim
Brakes SRAM Guide RSC
Wheelset DT Swiss XMC 1200 Spline
Tires Maxxis Minion DHR / Maxxis Ardent
Seat SDG Allure
Seatpost Rock Shox Reverb Stealth B1



Canyon Spectral







Test Bike Setup

The first thing I noticed when setting up the Canyon Spectral WMN was that the seat tube was too high for me to ride with the provided 150mm Reverb dropper. I went out on a couple unsatisfactory test rides where I had to lower the seat by a centimeter every time I hit the trigger to put it into my preferred pedaling height. The problem was aggravated by the fact that the bike has the original button-style Reverb lever, which makes on the fly adjustment harder and not as safe since you can't have your full hand on the bar. Installing OneUp's new dropper solved this problem since it has a shorter stack collar, enabling me to run a full 150mm dropper on this bike.

At 143mm, the SDG Allure saddle that comes on the bike was a bit narrow for me, so I installed Ergon's new SM women's mountain saddle on my test bike. The saddle wasn't released at the time of the Spectral WMN's launch, but I'm hoping that the next version of the Spectral WMN comes with it since several of the men's models run Ergon saddles (Canyon and Ergon are both based in Koblenz, Germany).
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Sarah Moore
Location: Squamish, BC, Canada
Age: 28
Height: 5'7"
Inseam: 27"
Weight: 160 lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @smooresmoore

I ran the Fox Float DPS Factory shock at 188 psi and 25% sag, and didn't need to run any volume spacers. The shock has three setting for the open mode - I ran it in the middle position. Up front, I ran the Fox 34 Factory with 83 psi, 10 clicks of open mode adjust from fully open and 7 clicks of rebound, and no tokens.

I rode the Canyon Spectral on my home trails in Squamish, BC in late spring, through the summer and into early fall. Conditions were wet and muddy at the beginning of the test period, blown out towards the end of the summer, and there were a fair number of days with perfect hero dirt thrown into the mix as fall arrived.


Canyon Spectral
The Spectral makes technical switchbacks easy.


Climbing

After my front wheel lifted off the ground a few too many times on steep climbs, I moved the saddle forward slightly on the rails to cheat the 74-degree seat tube angle into being a bit steeper. That helped, and once I did that, it was easier to keep the front of the bike on the ground.

In the wet conditions that Squamish is notorious for, the 2.6" Ardent rear tire made climbing near impossible and I would spin out on much more gradual gradations than anticipated. However, as the trails dried out, I was able to find traction on technical climbs and it was nice not to feel any rolling resistance from the 2.6" tires.

In fact, encouraged by how good I felt climbing on the Spectral WMN, I even took it in one of Squamish's local XC races. The bike is so light that I didn't feel like I had a disadvantage on the climbs compared to the XC whippets on the start line. When climbing in full open mode, however, there was a slight bob in the shock, and I used the lockout for efficiency on the fire roads and smooth climbs. When the bike was in firm mode, there wasn't very much traction on steep, loose climbs, so I found the middle setting on the shock to be a happy medium and ran it at 25% sag to give it a bit more support. There's no lockout lever on the bar, but the setting is relatively easy to adjust while climbing.

On slow, tight switchbacks, the bike felt nimble and I could pick precise lines and easily maneuver the bike around and never found myself hitting the pedals on rocks or roots. While there's minimal pedaling-induced suspension movement, there is some, and for most technical climbs, I used the middle setting.

I'm being a bit persnickety here, but I did find that the water bottle mount, while appreciated, was quite low and could be a bit hard to reach.


Canyon Spectral
The Spectral is playful and wants to spend time in the air.


Descending

The Spectral WMN loves to pop off of features on the trail and get air. It prefers to launch over obstacles and is not the kind of ultra-plush monster truck that plows through rough terrain. It holds its own on technical terrain, however, including Squamish's black diamond trails - you just have to be careful with line choice. When it's not in the air, the quick and precise handling of the Spectral WMN make cornering with it very fun, and it accelerates out of berms with ease. Even at high speeds, the bike feels stable and smooth.

I did find the bike's limitations on bigger drops and steep terrain. On bigger drops, I would have liked a plusher landing and more support, and on steep, rocky terrain, I felt that I got pushed over the front of the bike. A bigger fork like the Fox 36 instead of the Fox 34 the bike came with could have helped with confidence in technical, steep terrain, but would make the bike heavier.

I wouldn't want to do bike park laps on this bike, or race Enduro World Series races on it. On the other hand, while I rode it in an XC race, that's not really its jam, and it smashed the descents. All in all, the Spectral WMN finds the sweet spot for trail / all-mountain riding, loves long descents from the alpine, and is plenty capable for local enduro races for someone who isn't a die-hard racer.

Fox clothing
An awesome bike for the flowy trails in Calabasas, California. NB: It was easy to repackage the Spectral WMN into the box that Canyon shipped it in to fly to California with and it felt as safe as a travel bag. Also, no need to pack any tools (except for a pedal wrench!) since the bike shipped with all the tools needed to build it.





Canyon Spectral
Canyon Spectral WMN CF 9.0 SL
Norco Sight 2017 C 7.1
Norco Sight C 7.1

How does it compare?

There's no shortage of options in the 140 - 150mm travel segment, but just because two bikes have the same amount of travel and similar geometry doesn't mean that they'll behave the same way on the trail. Take the Canyon Spectral WMN and the Norco Sight 7.1 for example. Both bikes have 140mm of rear travel, 430mm rear centers, 1160mm wheelbases, and very similar head tube angles at 65.9 (Canyon WMN) and 66 (Sight), but they have different strengths out on the trail.

Interestingly, while the Canyon Spectral WMN has a 10mm shorter reach than the mainline Canyon Spectral, it's still 8mm longer than the Sight C 7.1. While I never had any comments about how short the reach on the Sight C 7.1 looked, that was the top comment I got when I was riding the Canyon Spectral WMN. I believe it's the super low standover height on the Canyon Spectral WMN that makes it look shorter than it actually is.

Appearances aside, the Canyon Spectral WMN is lighter, which gives it the advantage on the climbs. On the Sight C 7.1, I often climbed with the suspension in open mode for optimal traction, and there was minimal bobbing in that setting. On the Spectral WMN, there was more movement in the suspension while climbing, and I used the lockout more frequently.

On the descents, the Sight has a plusher, more balanced feel. The Sight isn't well-suited to bike park laps, but it rarely meets its limits in technical terrain, and I raced it during the 2017 Enduro World Series race in Whistler. The Spectral, however, would be my preference for long backcountry days when you want to go fast and far on a light bike.

In sum, when it comes to climbing prowess and efficiency, the Spectral takes the win, but for outright speed and control on gnarly descents, the Sight C 7.1 comes out on top.


Canyon Spectral
Good stopping power with the 200mm rotor in the front and 180mm rear rotor.
Canyon Spectral
The front tire choice was a good one.


Technical Report

Maxxis Minion DHR II / Maxxis Ardent: The Minion DHR II is a sound choice for a 140/150mm bike and had great traction in all conditions. The Ardent, while it may be fast rolling, is seemingly its opposite, and would not be my first choice for an all-rounder rear tire.

DT Swiss XMC 1200 Spline Wheelset: They were light and stiff and I didn't get any flats or have to tighten any spokes during the test period.

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Reverb Plunger Remote: Not only was the dropper too long, but it came with the plunger-style Reverb remote. Once you get used to the new shift-lever style remote, it's downright scary to go back to the old one.

SRAM Guide RSC brakes: The Guide RSC brakes worked perfectly for the entire duration of testing, and it's nice to have the added adjustability on the higher-end brakes. I thought it was great choice for Canyon to put a 200mm rotor on the Spectral, and a 180mm rear rotor.


Canyon Spectral


Pros

+ Playful on descents
+ Lightweight
+ Well thought out details like cable management system
Cons

- Long 440mm seat tube height on the size medium
- Ardent rear tire doesn't provide much traction
- Not super plush in rough terrain


Is this the bike for you?

The Canyon Spectral WMN is a lightweight, but capable trail / all-mountain bike. It's not the ideal bike for bike park laps or big enduro race weekends, but it can definitely hold its own on Squamish's technical black diamond trails and excels when it comes to jumping and situations where quick handling is required. If you want a light bike that is fun and playful on the descent, this is a great choice.


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesBuilding up the direct-to-consumer Canyon Spectral WMN is quick and painless, and with a high-end parts spec and well thought out design, female riders won't be disappointed with the ride quality. It's a bike that makes you want to play around and pop off everything on the descents, and you'll get extra elevation in since you'll find yourself climbing faster than usual.Sarah Moore



134 Comments

  • + 62
 As a female rider, to be honest I kind of don't look at women's specific bikes much. Maybe I'm looking at it with the wrong angle but it feels condescending to me. I generally consider bikes to be unisex, not men's or women's specific. With that said, suspension companies could do more to accommodate lighter riders, and frame designers could consider the needs of shorter riders (seat post clearances mainly) a bit more carefully. Then again, I also don't understand other women who complain when there's no sport bracket in races and only elite, so maybe I'm not the target audience for this kind of thing.
  • + 54
 I'm sure the changes on this women's specific frame won't be beneficial to every woman, but you're going to call it a women's specific bike, this is how you do it. No more shrink it and pink it.
  • + 2
 So, where are the $2,400 models that Canyon promised more than half a year ago?
  • + 26
 My wife doesn’t buy women’s bike mostly because they’re harder to resell in the future haha
  • + 19
 Unless we are talking about some brands that paint mens bike on pink and call it women specific (Juliana.) the idea behind woman specific frames play on an statistical biological reality and that is in general (obviously there are exceptions) women have a shorter torax and longer legs than men. So playing with geometry to accomodate that fact is not a bad idea. But I do think companies should give us more data on how exactly they test the women specific designs.
  • + 2
 @bishopsmike: Yeah, too short reach and on the XS/S and too long a seat tube on the S/M.

Nailed it.
  • + 8
 @fercho25: They do it the same way as with mens' bikes: 50% guesswork, 50% perceived market expectations.
  • + 4
 @fercho25: This is why I fit well on women's bikes. I would prefer torso specific geometry rather than gender specific. A 35" inseam at 6' tall. standover height is never an issue.
  • + 6
 Actually I disagree with you. My wife is only 5'5" and has a short wait and longer legs. A mens specific bike reach was too long for her on any sized frame and she'd get pins and needles in her feet and could not ride more than 40 minutes of XC before not being able to continue.

I bought her a WSD bike and she has not been happier riding a bike than this one. She goes out for hours and loves it. So, condescending does not come into play here. A lot of women have different length torsos' and these WSD bikes do fill in for those that are unable to ride a mens specific bike.
  • - 5
flag jclnv (Nov 19, 2018 at 9:12) (Below Threshold)
 @MMOF: I bet you could easily find that sizing from a XS/S men's bike.
  • + 6
 example of women's specific bike by canyon (grand canyon):
-women's saddle
-lighter gears
-shorter cranks
-suspension tuned for lighter riders
-smaller handlebar

maybe you should look at it.....
  • + 1
 @jclnv: Nope. Tried that.
  • - 2
 @MMOF: What seat tube length and reach number did you need?
  • + 1
 @jclnv: I'll have to check as she has had this for 3 years now. Time for a new bike for her next year but I will check the bike when I get home
  • + 1
 @MMOF: We finally got a bike to fit my wife...she is 5'2" with a 26" inseam...got her on an XS Julianna Roubion and she's never been happier.

Its all about sizing when it comes to 'women's' bikes...that and suspension but most brands fail on that count and you gotta do a lot of customization if you're small.
  • + 11
 I feel the same way about many women's bikes, but it's hard to feel like this $10,000 top of the line model is condescending. Women's bikes are polarizing, but if a company makes women's bikes, I'm always happy to see that they make it in a high-end model!
  • + 4
 @sarahmoore: Agreed. Ladies shred just as hard and deserve good components...I'd argue its even more important in some cases especially when it comes to weight. Wife has a V10 and its down to like 25 pounds...we did the math on like a 'per capita' scale...her 25# V10 would be the equivalent percentage of body weight to me riding a 61 pounds DH bike. lol.
  • + 1
 @jclnv: Exactly, this is why my GF went for small Unisex as reach is around the same as women's medium but seat tube is tbe same as women's small. Women's medium seat tube is too tall.
  • + 0
 you're correct, it's marketing BS. I would love to see bikes just marketed to people and have men/ women race together.... ohhhhh, no he didn't
  • + 1
 As far as selling them goes, they're just another size - they usually sit in the gap between the "mens" sizing. They fit some women way better than choosing slightly to big/small and that's the person you sell them to.
  • + 3
 @fercho25: The shorter body/longer legs thing is often repeated, but isn't backed up by any evidence. Studies that actually measured people have shown that there is no statistical difference in limb length or body length as a proportion of height between men and women. Women are just shorter on average (they do have narrower shoulders, which would effect bar width).
  • + 1
 @markinator: Stop ruining the marketing!
  • + 4
 @markinator: Sources? or saw it on the internet therefore is true?
  • + 6
 Holy shit people....it's a bike and it's NOT pink. For years women get upset because things are only marketed to men or 'Barbied' up things to women only. Here is a women's bike, top level spec AND it's blacked out stealth style. And we are still bitching? #firstworldproblems. Ok, down vote me into oblivion Big Grin
  • + 4
 @fercho25: Here are some measures according to Liv: www.liv-cycling.com/us/liv-design-data. I think it's as much about race as about gender. Northern European body geometry tends to be high-waisted, so the short reaches of Cubes and Ghosts. Poles work, but because the seat tube angles are significantly steeper. The more foot-forward placement of flat pedal riders should also benefit from a steeper seat tube angle. As a 6' American of Norwegian descent who rides flats, I'd prefer a Large Hail to a Medium Reign based solely on seat tube angles, theoretical and actual. @markinator is correct about narrower shoulders, @Larkey1 is really on the money, while @phinehaafer is a mystery with almost zero profile info.
  • + 1
 @jhtopilko: Unless you want more stand over to do tables easier rather than just swing your leg over.
  • + 4
 @bman33: Yeah but they get "Sparkles". Why don't us men get "Sparkles" on our bike paint jobs??

I recon it would look great with my British Racing Green bike Big Grin Razz
  • + 0
 @fercho25: I did some looking into this and, at least as far as I could find in terms of actual research, it appears that it's a myth that women have longer legs and shorter torsos than men, and when measured in a study it looks like it's actually the opposite. Which kind of makes sense biologically speaking since men were involved in the running around of hunting back in the day. It looks like a few others have already commented on this topic. www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADA074807

@sarahmoore: I'm glad to hear I'm not alone in my thoughts. I agree with you about that, this definitely tries to put more thought into it beyond the old fashioned "make it pink" ideology. But unfortunately, and possibly because of the history and connotations around female-specific products for sporting goods, it's probably coloured my perception on the topic.
  • + 1
 Hang on a sec, while I'm on the topic, one thing I'd loooove to see a women's specific version of (though really it's just a little-people issue again) is GRIPS. Pleeease make shorter grips. I want to see 110mm grips, 130mm grips are way too long for little hands. If I want a good grip to brake lever ratio I need to cut down my grips Frown
  • + 35
 how so, no comments, on the dual bottle mount? Pinkbike should have exploded with the strenght of 1000 supernovas!
  • + 9
 LOL, haven't seen the bike scene so obsessed with water bottles since Downhill Domination was out on PS2
  • + 6
 I'm more worried about the lack of banana mounts.
  • + 1
 @nuttypoolog: LOL
  • + 20
 @sarahmoore : have you tried the man version in S size ? I would be curious to know if you "feel" that the women specific changes are good or if it just feels different but not necessarily better.
  • + 13
 I'm more intrested if anyone could notice a difference at all.
  • + 21
 I have not tried the men's size small Spectral. I agree it would be interesting to compare the two.
  • + 3
 That really is an interesting question. I'm a female rider and I find that the Giant Reign fits me better than the Liv Hail, so obviously just because a bike is women's specific doesn't mean it is actually better for any female
  • + 2
 @phinehaafer: As someone who has sold giant bikes over many years, I can vouch for the fact that it all comes down to torso/leg length ratio.

I've actually sold blokes and young boys female bikes if their torso length is better suited to a hail or an intrigue.

Of course there's more to it than just the geo, but with a quick saddle/bar swap these people ended up with a much better fit.

This bike is awesome!
  • + 18
 @sarahmoore. Stoked our dropper helped get you the position you needed!
  • + 13
 I like the Canyon bikes, but a friends recent experience has meant there is no chance I'll ever buy new from them. 3 month old high end carbon road bike cracked in the middle of the seat stay while riding. Bike never crashed or dropped (yeah yeah, I know the old 'Just Riding Along' routine but this really was) and Canyon took one look and said they wouldn't warranty replace it, just offered a bit of a discount on a replacement frame at a still ridiculous cost. In my, and all my riding buddies opinions, they can go f*** themselves if they expect anyone to buy one of their bikes if that's the customer support they give.
  • + 3
 Could you please post images of the damage somewhere please? I am genuinely interested. I sounds extremely wired. Either there must have been a huge manufacturing flaw or there must have been some kind of massive impact (but you should be able to determine this by the nature of the damage).
  • + 5
 High end carbon road bikes are lightened to the point of barely holding together, there are loads of reports of them cracking from pressure on the top tube or just toppling over with no rider. A normal person (non-pro racer) should avoid them altogether.
  • + 3
 I've had more than 5 months of horrible warranty service from Canyon France. A mechanic even drastically de-tuned my front wheel (to a dangerous degree) out of revenge as a result of me sending a certified letter to France's head Director. They put anti-seize paste in the head tube to fill the out of tolerance head tube. They call this "standard practice"!
  • + 2
 @lenmerderdenfer: That's strange. That wasn't my experience with Canyon France. They provided great service in fixing the flawed shock that came on my Spectral. They even shipped it back with a new shock pump. They paid for all shipping fees and sent it back promptly.
  • + 2
 Ok, so in a shock move he's just heard from them and they are going to honour the warranty. Fair play to them for changing their decision, but it sucked that he had to go through that for a 3 month old frame.
  • + 1
 @johnnyo5: Lucky you! Glad you got good service.
  • + 14
 What are 'fully sealed industrial bearings' and what evidence is there to back up Canyon's claim that they will last for years?
  • + 11
 Havent seen any bike with exposed bearings.
  • + 5
 True (ignoring ones designed for use with a grease gun). Maybe the bearings inside these are in fact tiny Aardvarks that stay in a rolled up position for the descents, but stick their legs out on the climbs, locking the suspension Wink
  • + 7
 @wallheater: Spec already has the patent for that...
  • + 2
 @wallheater: That is beautiful - made my day Smile
  • + 10
 Seattube fail. Even in the men's models. Why are all canyon bikes like this.
  • + 3
 Clueless. One of the most important aspects of the bike and they ruin it with a 20mm+ too long seat tube.
  • + 4
 @jclnv: People with long legs? I am just past the minimum insert on a 125mm dropper on a medium giant reign. If seat tubes get any shorter, I won’t be able to find a long enough seat post
  • + 10
 @Timmcg3: 125mm dropper. There's your problem.
  • + 3
 @Timmcg3: get a longer dropper
  • + 1
 @Timmcg3: Longer post is the go. And because of shorter seat tubes thicker posts are becoming more and more common so insert lenghts get shorter.
  • + 1
 @jclnv: I agree. I'm shocked that their seat tubes are so long. This is also the case on their men's models.
  • + 5
 Was about to buy last year's women model for my girlfriend with 2 cogs in the front and while still undecided a few hours later i saw the new 2019 models. Decided to go for the men's Spectral 5.0 size S since it has a beefier fox 36 and 160 mm of travel, with eagle transmission. Would have liked a smaller seattube. Can't really beat that for 2099 euros. Canyon shipped it on the same day. Props
  • + 1
 We just did the exact same thing and ordered a size small unisex for my GF last night. She is 5ft 6 so think it will be bang on, and the spec is better than the female equivalent for the same price.
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 @Davec85: It's still unclear for me which seatpost we'll get on the small size. On model description they say 150 mm dropper. But if i look at the geo chart i'm seeing 390 mm(125 mm of travel) droppers on XS and S and 440 mm of dropper(150 mm of travel) on the other sizes.

I'll get it tomorrow so i'll see for myself.
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 @steviejks: I think it's probably 125, which is annoying as would really prefer 150mm as my GF has 32" inseam. Not the end of the world, but wish they gave you the option when ordering.
  • + 5
 That rear axle with the stowing lever made my pants tight!! That gently confident mechanical noise as it locks into place, that smooth threading, that low profile, tool-less design. Today is going to be a good day and all is well in the world. Thanks Pinkbike.
  • + 4
 A great review! Can I suggest that I think it's possible that a lot of what you didn't like about the bike is probably simply down to it not weighing enough. I've ridden a few 25-ish Lbs trail bikes and you just can't get them to feel planted, no matter what geometry or suspension set up is tried
  • + 2
 +1 to that, prefer a loaded bike with tube/water/tools whatever to one that is stripped out, weight on the bike is a good thing just depends where you put it
  • + 1
 edit for clarity : IMO If you have bike that feels heavy, you set the suspensions so that it feels planted, but if you have a light bike, you set it so that it "floats".
  • + 3
 Just a diffrent style of riding. Personally I prefer a stiffer lighter riding bike and to pop and skim over stuff. Heavy planted feels boring to me. Kind of forced to straight line everything on a planted bike
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 @markg1150: yeah I'm with you on that, but I still don't think you can get super lightweight trail bikes to feel planted even if you wanted - it's just not on the table. Whereas bikes around 30-32Lbs you can tune either way.
So basically, the cheaper heavier trail bikes are often better, even aside from the cost
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 @IllestT:
Slap some coils on. That should glue it down.
  • + 3
 Ardent is definitely a fast roller but is a more than okay rear tyre IMO. Its terrain dependent. If you'r riding deep ,loam and mud then no, but rocks and hard pack it loves. I'm running Ardents front and back on my enduro hardtail which doubles as a marathon bike. The Ardents strike a good balance for this, especially on a hard tail.
  • + 4
 +1 for Ardents, great rear tire for the east coast.
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 Can sound surprising but I bought the Spectral CF 7.0 Wmn and as a short guy (around 5.5"), I always felt like there was something strange in my position on the different bikes I tested, always this pain in the lower back, felling incomfortable in the climbings, like if I was about to slip off the saddle, even if I always choosed small frames to ride.

Since few years, sizing has always increased and Medium from yesterday has become the Small of 5 years ago (maybe exagerating but you can see the point). It has became an bit difficult to find a real small frame in the industry.

All this speach to say that I'm proud that they consider the smaller rider as we don't measure 6.4" and don't all ride on XL frames with extra long wheel base.
I'm also proud that the didn't choose teal or pink shades for their women sections.
I don't really think that women needs particular bikes but people of a particular size definitively need adapted bikes. Even better if it doesn't cost a liver.
Afordable all rounder like those, great price, well engeneered and nice looking are few but very appreciated
  • + 2
 I've worked in a shop for 12 years and I can promise you women specific mountain bike design is only necessary for women under 5'4". The rest is marketing BS. Just about every bike brand offers different geo's compared to others, and you'll find overlap when comparing men and women's bike sizes from one company to another. We all come in different shapes and sizes, but we all are mountain bikers that are constantly up and down, forward and back, and side to side, unlike road bikers where they are in a more static position for longer periods and require a more dialed fit. This is just like all the women specific camps and rides, industry BS!!!!!
  • + 2
 I've never been interested in having a womens specific geometry.I'm tall and long limbed with a longish torso so what Liv or Canyon offer isnt for me.. What I'm more interested in is a saddle that fits properly and doesnt leave me crippled and bars I can cut down.As for Santa Cruz/Juliana then I'd probably buy a Santa Cruz frame as it would be easier to sell on than the Juliana.Sure I love the colours that Julianas come in but I cant imagine many men wanting to buy and so I'd be limiting my market.
  • + 4
 Can you even get the plunger remote anymore? That just kind of sends a “meh, throw whatever on there” kind of message.
  • + 1
 Not sure I get all the negativity. My wife is short, really short, very few companies make an XS. This bike has been on the short list for a while due to it having an XS, but they haven't had one stock in over a year. Options are never a bad thing especially for those on the short end of things, of which there are few.
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 Where is the XL size? My girlfriend is 6.6 tall,...
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 6.6 what?
  • - 6
flag idiot84 (Nov 19, 2018 at 7:16) (Below Threshold)
 @stumpymidget: Square meters PS. I love your name. My girlfriend always wanted to try a midget not only down there. :-)
  • + 5
 La la la...Lo-la...
  • - 1
 @idiot84: Damn your GF is a freak
  • + 2
 @sarahmoore How are you getting Canyon to deliver in Canada? I know of ways around it but curious to know how Pinkbike gets their hands on them.
  • + 0
 Why would they make a Women's specific model? They didn't have enough different sku's to keep track of already? I'm pretty sure there's a Women's frame in every model of bike in existence already. They're called size XS, size S, or size M.
  • + 1
 Cables hanging underneath the bottom bracket is engineering failure. I sheared a rear brake hose on a simple step-down with this routing.
  • + 3
 I can't recall when was the last time I saw this bike...
  • - 2
 I don't understand the neg props, it's funnier than 80% of the typical Pinkbike puns
  • + 6
 @zede: 80% of pinkbike users have no soul or sense of humor. Just a bunch of brainwashed yuppies buying anything that has increased stiffness and lower weight. We're all doomed.
  • + 2
 What's up with Canyon, they have absolutely nothing in stock. How do you sell bikes if there are none to buy?
  • + 2
 This happens every year at this time for most suppliers
  • + 0
 Nice writeup - informative.

But having to swap two components out straight up (seat post too long, saddle not appropriate) shows they still didn't quite nail the female market.
  • + 10
 Saddle choices are so subjective, it's hard (impossible ?) to find a saddle that would fit everybody.

I also have the feeling that in women, there are much more difference between individual regarding the confort of saddle (more than in men).
  • + 1
 The seatpost she preferred is a few mm shorter... that's just down to someone's build and hardly "not getting thr femail market".
  • + 3
 Looks fun to ride.
  • - 6
flag idiot84 (Nov 19, 2018 at 7:37) (Below Threshold)
 That's what she said.
  • + 2
 Looks like an awesome bike. The lines and angles are really clean tup
  • + 1
 When will we see bikes made with sustainable materials?
  • + 1
 I see they decided to go with the gray.
  • + 1
 Maxxis should just discontinue the Ardent.
  • + 1
 Looks like a trek Knock Block
  • + 1
 no X'ups Frown
  • + 1
 Go buy a bike form your local shop you know it makes sense.
  • + 1
 Can you even buy Canyon bikes direct if you reside in Canada?
  • + 1
 $6k, no....he’ll no!
  • + 0
 Women specific bikes make me laugh, marketing bullshi# at it's finest.
  • + 12
 well most women have longer legs and a shorter torso than a man so it can make sense. Also having a woman specific seat and narrower grips and handlebar out of the box could be nice.
  • + 6
 @dutchforce: also their weight distribution is different
  • + 7
 Without marketing BS, our species would never have reached the heady heights it has attained and our journey towards armageddon would have been way less rich, entertaining and face-palmingly baffling. And I care more about the cable hanging under the BB than anything else.
  • + 10
 @zede: my girlfriend has 600cc implants x2 - at least 1.2 kg of boob weight. Does this change her Center of gravity?
  • + 3
 They are made for child bearing hips.
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flag BenPea (Nov 19, 2018 at 7:48) (Below Threshold)
 @harrybrottman: Isn't that how much lighter women's brains are, which negates the problem?

(One for the conservatives there)
  • + 5
 @dutchforce: I would say this reviewer does not fit profile. 5'7" with a 27" inseam is why she is having issues with the 150 dropper. I myself, a male, fit more into the average women profile at 5'4" with a 30" inseam. Road and triathlon bikes focus so much on fit, and not every manufacturer makes a bike that is ideal to every body type. Mtn bikes seem to glaze over this making it sound like super long top tubes work for all. a proper bike fit is essential for all types of bikes.
  • + 1
 Can you find a unisex bike with 140-150mm travel that my 153cm (5ft 0") wife will fit on then please? I agree that once into the size of a 'mens' bike, maybe, but they don't go small enough.
  • + 1
 @rmt: Diamondback catch in xs. My wife is 5ft 1". Its the only bike I have found that fits her.
  • + 0
 My girl has a long torso and short legs.
  • + 1
 @panzer103: That's me too and it means that the move towards longer reach bikes means they finally fit properly!
  • + 0
 As a feminist and someone who would fit a women-specific bike, I am offended that people got the wrong end of the stick...
  • + 1
 @BenPea: to be fair it was not super funny. Many sexist jokes are funny, but this definitely wasn't.
  • - 2
 @zede: you got the official list of those that are funny? It wasn't a sexist joke, it was a slur on conservatives. And a waste of time.
  • + 1
 So what is its weight?
  • + 7
 Sorry only jokes here. No real questions allowed on PB.
  • + 7
 I weighed it in at 27.6lbs / 12.5 kg for the size Medium. We usually include the weight in the gray box at the top of the review so it's easy to find!
  • + 1
 Euhhh..the weight?
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 at the top of the article, above the price
  • + 1
 Doood!
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