Review: Kona Satori DL

Jul 9, 2018
by Daniel Sapp  
After a five-year hiatus, Kona's Satori is back. It still has 29" wheels, 130mm of travel, and 68-degree headtube, but nearly everything has been changed, including the design of the frame itself.

The Satori was originally slated to be released a year earlier than it was and with 27.5" wheels. However, Kona's engineers decided that 29" wheels would better serve the riders' needs so they went back and did some re-designing, re-configuring, and came up with the 2019 Satori. At first look, it's obvious that some of the angles are pretty different than a lot of other bikes currently out there.

According to Kona, this "XC-trail" bike with its short chain-stays, steep seat-tube angle, and 68 degree head-tube was made for the rider who wants to put in miles on a variety of terrain but still have a bike that can handle some abuse and be nimble both uphill and down.
Kona Satori

Intended use: XC-trail
Travel: 130mm rear / 140mm front
Wheel size: 29"
Frame construction: aluminum
Head angle: 68º
Chainstay length: 430mm
Colors: gloss hot orange
Sizes: S, M, L, XL
Weight: 30.5 lbs. (Size M, without pedals)
Price: $3,499 USD
More info: www.konaworld.com

The Satori comes in two builds in sizes small to extra-large. The base model Satori is $2,399 USD and comes with a Shimano Deore 1x10 drivetrain, Shimano brakes, RockShox Deluxe RL Debonair shock, and RockShox Recon Gold SL fork. The Satori DL tested here comes with a 140mm RockShox Revelation RL fork, SRAM's GX Eagle drivetrain, Guide R Brakes and a Maxxis Minion, Tomahawk tire combo and retails for $3,499.

bigquotesThe Satori is a bit of an outlier in some ways with its far forward thinking geometry. With 130/140mm of travel and a robust build, it falls comfortably into the XC / trail category and is equally at home climbing and descending moderately technical trail as it is veering off to sample more spicy trailside attractions. Daniel Sapp









Construction and Features


The Satori takes some design cues from Kona's Hei Hei line and some others from the much loved first generation Process. The bike has the same single-pivot "Fuse" suspension platform as the Hei Hei, but with some pretty unorthodox angles. According to Paddy White, Kona's Product Manager, "This bike came from us trying to address a few categories at once. It's a capable, versatile, monster truck of an XC bike that has quickly become an in-house favorite." The team at Kona didn't necessarily want a full-on XC bike but they didn't want the bike to also carry over into the duties of the Process line. It was intended to fill the gap between the two.

There's a durable parts build and external cable routing that keeps the bike simple and maintenance as easy as possible. A water bottle can be mounted to the downtube, something no modern bike should be without, sitting cleanly on top of the cable guides. There's a RockShox Reverb seatpost, and although I can't support the decision to use the plunger style remote, according to the team at Kona, it was a significant cost savings to spec that over the Reverb 1x remote. It's also something that is easily upgraded by the end consumer and one of the few things I would change if it were my bike.


External cable routing held in place by the water bottle mount bolts and cable guides.
Plenty of clearance to run plenty of tire.



The frame design and linkage are simple and stout for an aggressive XC/trail bike.
Photo Burke Saunders
The RockShox Deluxe RL feels supported throughout its travel.




Geometry & Sizing

Kona took the platform from the Hei Hei and then combined it with the reach numbers of the G1 Process. They kept the 68-degree headtube angle from the original Satori- an outlier in and of itself and then cranked up the seat tube angle to a far forward 78.4 degrees (sizes S and M...L and XL are 78.3). So while the bike is longer and lower, it's not slacker than the OG.

The seat tube angle is four degrees forward from the original Satori. The idea is that this will keep the rider more on top of the bottom bracket, effectively helping the long bike feel a good bit shorter when climbing. Combined with the 68-degree head-tube and short rear, tight turns and navigating through technical spots while heading both uphill and down should be easier to maneuver past.

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Suspension Design

The Satori uses a single pivot design and Kona's Fuse suspension platform, with a flex-stay rear-end. The vertically mounted trunnion shock allows the use of bearings as well as a bigger shock with more air/oil flow. The leverage ratio is fairly similar to the G1 Process - mostly linear and fairly progressive in the travel. The Satori's anti-squat percentage stays above 100% throughout its travel.

Satori leverage ratio
Satori anti-squat


Specifications

Specifications
Release Date 2018
Price $3499
Travel 130mm
Rear Shock RockShox Deluxe RL DebonAir Trunnion
Fork RockShox Revelation RC Solo Air 140mm
Headset FSA 57E
Cassette SRAM GX-Eagle 10-50t 12spd
Crankarms SRAM Descendant 6K 32t Eagle chainring
Chainguide NA
Bottom Bracket SRAM GXP PF92
Pedals NA
Rear Derailleur SRAM GX-Eagle
Chain SRAM GX-Eagle
Front Derailleur NA
Shifter Pods SRAM GX-Eagle
Handlebar Kona XC/BC 35mm clamp
Stem Kona XC/B, 35mm
Grips Kona Key Grip
Brakes SRAM Guide R, 180mm F, 160mm R
Wheelset Kona Spec-build
Hubs Formula Boost
Spokes Stainless Black 15g
Rim WTB STP i29 TCS
Tires Maxxis Minion DHF TR DUAL 29x2.3"/Tomahawk TR DUAL 29x2.3"
Seat WTB Volt Comp
Seatpost RockShox Reverb w/Plunger Lever 31.6mm
















Test Bike Setup

At $3,499, the Satori comes right out of the box with a well rounded and capable parts spec. The 35mm diameter bar and stem combo is in line with the build, however, at 760mm the bars are a bit narrow. I would have been happy to see the bike with 780's or wider, as the Satori is built to handle some abuse and the wider bars would complement that well. For testing, I was riding a size medium.

I set the rear shock around 28-30% sag, although I did experiment with it having a little more or little less; air pressures in the shock hovered around 135-140psi. I ran 63psi and 3 tokens in the RockShox Revelation fork.

All of the riding with this bike took place in and around Brevard, NC. I spent time in both Pisgah National Forest- climbing fire roads and descending technical, blown out singletrack and DuPont State Forest, which has a more mellow, but still aggressive mix of sandy trails and exposed rock.

Conditions were a full spectrum with everything from rain that had us wondering when we were going to float away to dry, dusty, and loose...along with all of the good stuff in between.

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Daniel Sapp
Location: Brevard, NC, USA
Age: 31
Height: 5'10"
Inseam: 32"
Weight: 152 lbs
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @d_sapp1


Photo Burke Saunders


Climbing

I'm a big fan of mid-travel 29" trail bikes and I would probably choose one over just about anything else for the riding around me. While some people are more focused on riding whatever long travel bike is going to help them best cut corners and produce the top Strava time on the local descents, I find that a well rounded, mid-travel 29er that likes to go up and down is my "go-to" most days. Especially for any longer rides on varied terrain. To get to most of the good stuff, you've gotta get up to get down, after all.

Pedaling the Satori, my body position was more forward and on top of the bottom bracket than usual due to the steep seat tube, but that's not necessarily bad, it's just quite different from many other bikes in this category. The aggressive stance is most apparent on flatter trail sections and much less so while climbing. On steeper terrain, that position became an advantage by putting me in a good spot to get more power down to the pedals; it creates a seated position that mimics the feeling of standing up and forward, out of the saddle.

The Satori does a good job of holding itself up and has a lot of anti-squat. I found that some of my favorite trails to ride the Satori on were those with undulating terrain. Short, punchy climbs and quick descents, such as the ones DuPont State Forest has to offer were a blast on the bike. Tight uphill turns were incredibly easy to negotiate, and the Satori's angles - steeper than most other mid-travel bikes I've been on lately, made technical ascents that can at times be tricky quite simple to clean. This was especially noticeable at lower speeds.


Photo Burke Saunders

Descending

The trails around here are multi-use. Technical, non-mountain bike specific ruts are commonplace. It's what people enjoy about the area and what makes it special. There's very little predictability to the condition that things may be in, especially with rain storms changing rocks, making new ruts, and washing sand into turns on a daily basis. You have to be fully on your game to ride quickly, maintain a flow, and stay on the bike. The Satori's stout build - (Revelation RL fork, 2.3 Minion and Tomahawk tire combo on WTB i29 rims, SRAM Guide brakes, and oversized 35mm bar/stem) makes it easy to ride into most anything with some confidence. Stray rocks, newly uncovered roots, and other trail obstacles were easy to manage.

Getting the seat down and out of the way is especially imperative to having a good time while descending on the Satori due to that steep seat tube angle. I felt as if I needed to drop the seat and then making a concerted effort to find my center of balance again in order to get my weight back where it should be before charging into a technical section of trail. With the seat down and my weight back, the Satori feels comfortable and ready to attack. The chainstays are pretty short at 430mm and the bike is nimble and quick in turns and confident in descents.

The suspension did feel a little harsh off of the top, and although I experimented with different air pressures, shock settings, and volume reducers I could never get it quite as supple as I would have liked in the very initial part of the travel. Once in the travel, however, and especially at speed, any harshness was much less noticeable, and the bike was easy to push into anything from rock gardens and higher speed rooty descents to random trail-side drops and features.

If I rode the bike confidently it likewise behaved confidently. If I was too reserved on it and didn't make a conscious effort to get my weight back from the seated position even in more flat and pedaly technical terrain, the Satori would start to lose its composure ever-so-slightly, but more than bikes with a less forward seat tube angle seem to. Overall, the Satori is a great descender and not afraid to assertively roll into sections of trail that would make some other 130/140mm XC-trail bikes quickly shut down. If it's ridden with some intention, as it should be, it will go just about anywhere you point it with ease.






Kona Satori

Santa Cruz Tallboy

How does it compare?

The Santa Cruz Tallboy has 20mm less travel than the Satori, but the geometry numbers (except for the Satori's super steep seat tube angle) are similar, and both bikes have a similar intended use, falling into the technical trail / aggressive cross-country category.

The Satori clambered up steeper sections of trail with a bit more ease, but it in flatter, technical terrain, the Tallboy excels. The Tallboy feels tough enough to be ridden hard, but it doesn't have the same overbuilt and ready for anything feel that the Satori offers. The Satori also holds itself together better when descending rough and unpredictable trail, thanks largely to the extra travel. The Tallboy's suspension is more supple in small bumps and it's more efficient on flatter trails, while the Satori has the edge in rougher terrain.




Technical Report

RockShox Revelation RC Fork: The Revelation is a good value and a stout fork. No longer is it the scrawny XC fork of years past, it now has the same chassis as the Pike with 35mm stanchions and a DebonAir air spring.

SRAM Guide R Brakes: When set up properly, I like SRAM's Guide family of brakes. They're easy to adjust, even down to the more entry level "R" model and they've proven to be consistent for me...and this is probably the 20th bike I've had with them in the last couple of years.

RockShox Reverb: Despite its reputation for frequent needing rebuilds and servicing, the latest version of the Reverb works well. I think that the plunger style remote is extremely antiquated, and at the very least it should it should have been mounted under the bar rather than over the top. The lever is easily upgradeable to RockShox's new shifter-style remote, something I'd recommend doing right away.

Maxxis DHF 2.3 / Tomahawk 2.3 tires: The DHF is one of the most popular tires of all time. It's good in a wide variety of conditions and predictable. The Tomahawk is a little less common, but it did an exceptional job of managing poor and wet trail conditions, clearing muck with its wide tread pattern. However, the tires are the less expensive dual compound, and I would certainly upgrade to a 3C compound as soon as they showed signs of wear.


Photo Burke Saunders


Pros

+ Climbs and descends tight and technical terrain well
+ Solid build inspires confidence
+ Capable in a variety of situations - a real all day aggressive XC trail bike
Cons

- Hangs up in flatter technical terrain
- Seat tube angle takes some getting used to
- Reverb plunger lever



Is this the bike for you?

The Satori is an interesting bike that handles technical terrain well. It has some pretty untraditional angles, but they help it excel where a lot of bikes don't, especially steeper climbs and choppy descents. For places where rides can be a wide mix of conditions and it's usually up or down, the Satori is a bombproof bike to get you in and out of just about anything you find. it has the composure to charge confidently into the "somewhat unknown" without worry, and while it's not an enduro bike by any means, it's far closer to that that than it is a flimsy XC rig.

Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesThe Satori is untraditional. It's different than almost anything else out at the moment, but it works and can handle a variety of terrain well. It's not going to be the fastest in any given situation and it has a few quirks, but overall it's a very capable machine and one of the more enjoyable mid-travel 29ers in its price range that I've ridden. Daniel Sapp








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114 Comments

  • + 40
 Maybe just bring back the Process 134DL, spec it properly, and we’ll all be happy.
  • + 7
 Then I can finally replace my 134DL with a ... new 134DL! Big Grin
  • + 25
 I'm a big fan of Kona bikes but this one just doesn't do it for me aesthetically, I know it's a good bike but that rear end just looks really spindly compared to the front of the bike, it also looks a bit dated when compared to others (like the Tallboy).
  • + 12
 I know what you mean. I love the look of the 111 but this doesn't do it for me either. Maybe it is the stupidly steep STA.
  • + 8
 @fartymarty: to me, its almost like there's too much room in that front triangle! plus the whole pregnant downtube isn't really complementing it
  • + 2
 @sewer-rat: total gate, which is accentuated by the comparison pic next to the Santa Cruz.
  • + 3
 @sewer-rat: yeah that is one fat down tube. the tubes just aren't in proportion....

maybe its a grower, time will tell.

The NSMB review wasn't exactly glowing either, something like the STA was just too steep
  • + 5
 Re dated: I had the same thought. It has an uncanny resemblance to the Giant Trance X 29er, a bike that’s now probably 5 or 6 years old.

I demoed a Process last week and can’t quite figure out what Kona is trying to achieve anymore.
  • + 3
 @zamirz: Separate you from your dollars.
  • + 5
 @zamirz: The new Process is too much bike for me. I have a G1 Process 111, which is an awesome overall mix of traits for me. This new Satori should be a similar story - but frankly, at 225# I'm not buying the whole flexstay thing. Supposedly there's a new mid-travel 29er Process coming - that would be the proper spiritual successor to the 111 I think.

BTW - the Trance X 29er was the bike I had before the 111. I never looked back...
  • + 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: That's not gonna happen with looks/aesthetics like that!
  • - 10
flag Jaybirdy (Jul 9, 2018 at 13:18) (Below Threshold)
 Seriously What a PIECE OF SHIT!!! Nope Nope Nope!
  • + 1
 @g-42: I used to have a Trance X 29er too, it was a good bike other than some of the components. Have moved onto a Hightower, and like you, never looked back.
  • + 26
 Enjoying the evolution of the pinkbike review format! Great job.
  • + 21
 When it mentions Guide R brakes being consistent, does he mean consistently sh*t?
  • + 2
 He would probably be writing something different if he was in Pisgah instead of DuPont.
  • + 18
 @nug12182: Eh, 90% of my riding is in Pisgah since I can pedal there from my house...DuPont is a "long" 15-minute drive. I've had good luck with Guides and with other brakes as well, each have their own feel and quirks. A lot of "good luck" and consistency has to do with keeping things maintained, especially when ridden in the wet or schlepped through creeks on a regular basis.
  • - 1
 Guide R's are garbage. I demo'ed three Norco Sight's in the past five days on the Shore. The first ride was spec'ed with Guide R's and I had to dial back my riding because I the brakes couldn't scrub enough speed in time for corners. My 2014 Shimano Deore's crush those R's. But the second two demo's had Guide RS's. What a difference! I still slightly prefer my Deore's, but I could at least ride the bikes with confidence.
  • + 2
 @rrolly: we have 4 or 5 in the shop on Guide R as stock and they all hate them. Deores are cheaper and better.
  • + 14
 Kona seems to be making the EXACT same mistakes as Chris from niner did. He showed up to the party early and then passed out leaving the competition to draw d@cks on his face.

Dont pull a sugai kona.......
  • + 17
 "Flat technical terrain"... pretty much what I look to avoid.
  • + 4
 Living in Austin, I second that sentiment.
  • + 14
 The Tallboy looks rad next to the Kona
  • + 2
 And imho, the carbon tallboy looks even better.
  • + 9
 Kona, you need to offer frame only. I would have bought a G2 process by now and probably one of these too.
  • + 9
 This. If you’re struggling to spec a bike with a decent spec at the right price at least make the frames available so we can do it ourselves.
  • + 3
 Been saying this since the 2018s came out. Not everyone wants to buy complete
  • + 1
 You can get a g2 process frame only. It has to be the 27.5 carbon but it is available.
  • + 3
 @billygoat19: yes, just the carbon and 27.5 for $3100.Thankfully the 2018s will be 30-40% off at jenson in a couple of months. There's no way the LBS are going to move many of these new konas at those pricepoints.
  • + 6
 @billygoat19: yeah, I don't want to pay an extra thousand for carbon.

I was ready to buy an aluminum process frame, but since it wasn't available, I gave my money to another brand
  • + 1
 @billygoat19: Yes, maybe its easier over there but Kona UK made it sound like a pain in the hoop and a long wait to get a Carbon 153 frame.

Other Brands,I can buy a frame online easy.
  • + 2
 @ATXZJ: yes, just the carbon and 27.5 for $3100.Thankfully the 2018s will be 30-40% off at jenson in a couple of months. There's no way the LBS are going to move many of these new konas at those pricepoints.

This. Kona seem to make some well reviewed bikes, but their pricing when compared to other brands (even Transition) leaves much to be desired. It is a competitive market these days and while Kona have a decent history and a 'Bro' vibe, there are just too many other capable bikes out there for better pricing.
  • + 2
 @ATXZJ: I've been saying that about alot of companies as of late.. Yt (Canada atleast) no frame... Pivot, no frame on the 429 Trail and kona.. Some of us already have all the sweet bits!
  • + 9
 Why would anyone spend 3500 on this over other options is baffling.
  • + 1
 Not with direct sales options like YT and intense offering more for less money.
  • + 3
 @ATXZJ: I'm just surprised that they want 2800 for a damn 1x10 drivetrain. what is this, 2008?
  • + 5
 68 degree headangle with a 140mm up front seems like a miss. If your trails can make good use of that long a fork then you would most likely enjoy a slacker head angle. I run my process 111 with a 140 and you can get around tight turns just fine, with maybe just a bit more work, but going down it's totally worth it.
  • + 2
 Isn't the 111 also 68 degrees?
  • + 5
 @VtVolk: with a 120mm
  • + 8
 I came here for the angry 111 comparisons. Satisfied and now off to Jenson to buy some goodies for my 111 that I'll never be able to replace.
  • + 4
 @jpcars10s: I'm in the same boat - but supposedly there's a proper 111 successor in the works. Which means I'll have to just stay away from demo days...
  • + 2
 @ATXZJ: Yep, the 2017 comes stock with 130mm and the hta is listed at 67.5
  • + 3
 @g-42: I'd heard that this new Satori would be that bike. I hope you're right! 110-130 travel, 29er on the new Process platform, in carbon makes me all fizzy inside.
  • + 2
 @WestwardHo: 130mm seems to be the sweet spot for my 111. I also added a 2* angleset and swapped to a 40mm CSU at the same time i did the fork. Whatever I buy next has some big shoes to fill.
  • + 1
 @ATXZJ: SO your HTA is is now 65.5 yeah? How do you find your BB height and handling with that angleset?
  • + 5
 I don't know why but there's something about the look of kona's I can't get on board with. They aren't noticeably ugly but the shape of the frame doesn't work for me. Ride nice though which is all that matters at the end of the day
  • + 8
 This thing is ugly as sin
  • + 7
 Hey everyone has gone to 75-76 seat tube angles.....we can beat that! 77? Nah go for 78 and a bit.
  • + 3
 Clear example that bike"designers" are disoriented in the moment...they want to try the impossible but it doesent work.
"...It's not going to be the fastest in any given situation and it has a few quirks, but..." says it all , I guess.
  • + 2
 Why they didn't lengthen that top-tube when the steepened the SA is beyond me. TT length on a medium is now shorter than most smalls. i was between sizes on the OG process 111 and sized down. I've been riding that for 4 years and have regretted downsizing most of the time.
  • + 1
 Completely agree, go steep post angle, but lengthen the top tube!
  • + 2
 Glad to see XC trail bikes back. I've felt like the last few years most trail bikes were just short travel enduro wannabes. Some of us want a bike that pedals and handles more like an XC bike but also have 1500ft vertical descents to ride down that just aren't all that fun on 100mm.
  • + 2
 So the other day I saw that glimpse of the new Kona Honzo CR and they actually put chainguide tabs on it. Then this without them?

I do not design bikes but can it really be substantially more expensive to just put the damn tabs on? I feel like they are mandatory. Even with a narrow-wide chainring, a clutch derailler, and a tight chain, chain drops happen when you're charging and they suck each and every time.

Until I owned the 2017 Honzo CR I didn't recognize just how important they are and now I will never buy another frame without them.
  • + 1
 Rode one of these in Quebec at Camp Fortune on a demo day. I was all jazzed based on the description of it's intended purpose by the Kona rep. What a letdown. The bike just felt odd everywhere except pedaling up a steep fire road, thanks to that STA. Struggled to clear features on technical climbs that were easy my personal 2012 Stumpy FSR 29er with a Fox 34 140mm. The Tomahawk on the rear was pretty terrible too. Hopped on a Process 153 Al right after and oddly it climbed better, descended wayyy better (obviously) and was just generally easier to ride on that type of rocky/rooty/muddy terrain. After riding the Process, I started looking for a more gravity oriented bike.
  • + 2
 Funny, I had the exact same experience at a demo event. Rode the Satori, didn't really get along with it. I can't really put a finger as to why. Then again, maybe needed more time to get used to the geo. Then I jumped on the 153 29er and was totally blown away. It pedaled way better than expected, very comfy riding position, and ate up all of the jumps that I was willing to hit. This experience helped me get over my fear of being "overbiked" by a long travel 29er.
  • + 1
 Definitely not the first bike that comes to mind for riding Fortune.
  • + 5
 plunger style remote ............i like them, i don't like the lever one,
  • + 1
 Interesting , I am thinking of getting the lever ,but am ok with the plunger really . Wonder what other people think
  • + 3
 The lever is huuuuuuuge.I love my plunger,small and works great.
  • + 2
 Plunger under the bar on the left works great it's small out of the way and works
  • + 3
 @nick1957: I liked the plunger until I put a lever on my other bike now I see just how terrible the plunger is.
  • + 2
 Wolf Tooth Remote Sustain conversion kit FTW
  • + 2
 I find it interesting that the revelation now has 35mm stanchions what now is the difference between them, the pikes the lyrics and those other poo ones (forgotten their name)
  • + 1
 Lyric > Yari, both up to 180mm.
Pike > Revelation, both up to 160mm.

Rode the new Revelation on Whyte S150 and it's carbage with the same issue as many other RS forks: pre-dived in its travel when air pressure set to 75 kg rider (lower weight). That leads to 10-15mm less usable travel. Fascinating nobody care to solve it for years now. Dunno about the new Lyric RC2 though.
  • + 5
 @pulDag it’s a base setting, just add some more air pressure or jack up the charger.
  • + 1
 @bulletbassman:
I have it also on 2016 Lyric RCT3 at 65psi (81 kg). There's 10 mm of dead travel. Can't pump more, when barely using all the travel (170.. ehm 160mm to be precise).. not even talking about loosing small bump sensitivity.
  • + 1
 its grease getting trapped in the transfer port that causes the bike to sag 5mm or so under its own weight apparently.
  • + 6
 What's also confusing in the RS lineup is their naming... This can be made WAY easier for the brand and end users- if forks are using the same chassis, then they should have the same base name and let the damper technology tell the rest of the story.

Also, whenever anyone hears "Revelation" they automatically think they are getting a downgrade. But if you call the fork a Pike RC Solo Air, everyone will know more about it and not assume it is a big step down.

Take a cue from Fox on this one Rock Shox- simplicity gets your message across more easily.
  • + 1
 @pulDag: I always run at least 10 psi over recommended in rockshox forks. IMO you can't have it all, small bump vs. support, pick one.

Under inflated fork stuffed with spacers to prevent bottoming does not count as supportive.
  • + 3
 @ka-brap: Fox forks having simple to understand naming? Fox 36 Float Factory FIT GRIP2. Got that?
  • + 2
 @skerby: "can't have it all, small bump vs. support, pick one."

or pick a better Fork. It's not that hard to achieve both, I don't know why RockShox is having such a hard time doing it
  • + 1
 @acali: They are far from great, but at least Fox doesn't call each chassis by a different model name (with the exception of the 49 which is a dumb move on their part). It's the chassis type and it differs by damper & other tech. As opposed to the Boxxer, Domain, Lyric, Yari, Pike, Revelation, Sid, Judy, etc. etc. each having damper stories & other tech names associated them.

49 (dumb), 40, 36, 34, 32. Fox has fewer model names based on the chassis. They can FOR SURE find more intelligible names for their technologies, I will agree with you there.

Rock Shox can cut their model names by half quite easily: Boxxer, Lyric, Pike, Sid. Done. They're just making their lives and the consumer's experience more complicated.
  • + 1
 @skerby: Luftkappe seems to help with this. Can run higher PSI, fewer tokens, and have a more supportive fork with better sensitivity. For the price, is kind of a must-have for compatible RS forks, imo.
  • + 4
 LOL, another swing and a miss, Kona.
  • + 2
 How steep is too steep for STA? Some people's knees will probably start to have trouble here. At least offset posts are an option..
  • + 2
 Rode the XL on a demo day - felt alright , the XL felt really small though. The plunger style dropper remote is a joke, bars are to narrow.
  • + 3
 I knew it! The trend is reversing and now they are trying to sell us on steep bikes again! Next it will be 26 inch wheels...
  • + 3
 I've read nothing of this article. I just came here for the comments.
  • + 1
 Ok I've looked at it. It's kind of pinner.
  • + 2
 I like Kona bikes, but the rocker links on their new models are noticeably ugly..
  • + 24
 I've got to say, I own a Process 165, and when I'm riding it, I can't see how ugly the rocker link is. Dunno if that's because of my riding position or if I'm having too much fun riding.
  • + 3
 @OzMike: So youre the one who bought a 165! Nothing against it, as it looks like a rad bike. You just never hear about or see anyone riding them.


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  • + 1
 @ATXZJ: you must not get out much. They are super popular at bike parks and shuttle trails, people seem to love em
  • + 2
 Not sure how I feel about aluminum flex stays. Does anyone else use this material in that design?
  • + 2
 Flex stays are out there. Giant Stance, I think the Marin Hawk Hill? Seems a bit out of place on a bike with this much travel though.
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 This bike should have named Hei Hei LT 29 Trail. It is a nice bike but it definitely does not achieve "enlightenment" as the name Satori suggests.
  • + 1
 look like a fun bike . I would like to see them in the comparison test against Transition Smaggler
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 "20th bike I've had with [SRAM Guide brakes] in the last couple of years."

Dang, how frequently do you get bikes?
  • + 1
 I wish the dual compund Tomahawk wasn't just an OE tire. The 3C wears laughably fast on the rear.
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 good ol DuPont! recognized that in the first shot nice shots burke!
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 @danielsapp did you take it down Pilot and have you considered putting a Cane Creek Angleset in it to slack it out?
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 I have taken it down Pilot and up Laurel- switchbacks were cake. An Angleset would be interesting to try...
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 @danielsapp: steeper seat tube angle though too..
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 And what size bike did you ride? I think it's great when reviewers put that info in their reviews. Did I miss it?
  • + 2
 medium - it was hiding.
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 They should probably re-hire Chris Mandell
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 This X1000
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 So it replaces the Process 134 ?
  • + 3
 Nothing really replaces the Process 134 as the Process 134 was a more aggressive and burlier bike. And the Satori is 29er. The Hei Hei trail and Satori are more trail oriented riding and the Process are more enduro, and better for more technical and rougher trails.
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 @smartfartbart: Bring back the Process 111!
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 @honda50r: People have been saying that for a while now and kona is too busy building ebikes and abortions like the satori to listen.
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 @honda50r: I ride one, so yep, know what you mean.
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 Sick of orange..but I love screwdrivers.
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 Evil, The Following, that is all.
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 Looks like a Fuel Ex (2016)
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 What a turd
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 The tomahawk is a garbage tire
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 What makes you say that? I was happy with it on my bike with the big side knobs and low rolling resistance.
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 @Keystone08: fwiw, I'm in the same boat as tbsivad regarding the Tomahawk. I found that it couldn't grip anything remotely loose and would slip on everything remotely wet. I guess it'd be good on hardpack? I'm sure it'd be fine for some people, but it didn't match the conditions where I ride. /2 cents.
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 I don't think its a great western desert tire. maybe moab. I get one today or tomorrow. excited to ride it. should be good for the east coast riding unless it really really rains.
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 Had one as a rear and i could feel the lugs rolling on hardpack and yet it wasn't very grippy. Removed after a couple rides and would not recommend anyone buy one.
  • + 1
 Had this on my Stylus on the rear, actually loved it.
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