|Rear Shock||Fox Float DPX2, Performance Series|
|Fork||Fox Performance 34 Float|
|Headset||FSA No 57E|
|Cassette||Shimano SLX M7100 Cassette, 12-Speed, 10-51T|
|Crankarms||FSA Gradient, Modular 1x, 32T|
|Bottom Bracket||BB392 EVO, 73mm BSA Threaded|
|Rear Derailleur||Shimano XT 12-Speed, SGS|
|Chain||KMC X-12 Silver & Black|
|Shifter Pods||Shimano SLX 12-Speed|
|Handlebar||Deity Skyline Bar, 787mm Width, 25mm Rise|
|Stem||Marin 3D Forged Alloy, 35mm|
|Grips||Marin Single Clamp Locking|
|Brakes||Shimano SLX Hydraulic Disc|
|Hubs||Shimano, Microspline 148x12mm, Centerlock Disc, 32H|
|Spokes||14g Black Stainless Steel|
|Rim||Marin Aluminum Double Wall, 29mm Inner|
|Tires||Front: Maxxis Minion DHF 29x2.5WT, 3C MaxxTerra, EXO+, Rear: Maxxis Minion DHR II 29x2.4WT, 3C Maxx Terra, EXO+|
|Seat||Marin Trail Speed Concept Pro|
|Seatpost||X-Fusion Manic with PNW Loam Lever|
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The quality you're after is the one made for winter conditions or northern europe. I'm not talking about the LHM+ that works in all conditions, I'm talking about the regular or old school LHM made for lower temperatures. It doesn't void warranty and it does a hell of a job in cold weather.
Don't thank me but thank the DS/SM/Traction restore shop I spent so much time at when I was a teenager .
FYI, Shimano didn't dial its mineral oil for cold weather, but for positive temperatures. And they do quite well when it's 37°C (100°F) and above …
The Maguras have been flawless.
Still, totally agree with @jclnv, I'm in a similar headspace re the whole sporty car thing.
As a result, the air gets into the system. And the efficiency of the brake is significantly reduced. In particular, it feels like a wandering bite point.
Bought a Marin road bike to go on the trainer at the start of winter - its not bad but it definitely feels as cheap as it was.
Otherwise they are great bikes
Though the mavic XA wheels are shaped like a pentagon....
Pick up some spank vibrocores, or some of the oneup bars
Watch the suspension compression video and notice how much the rear brake caliper moves around the disc when it compresses. That kind of movement is not good for active suspension during braking (ie. maintaining traction and not locking up the wheel) and will also likely result in a high degree of pedal kickback. Both typical traits of single pivot designs.
Probably flogging a dead horse here though as some people still seem to think bikes like the Orange are the holy grail. each to their own I guess...
Commencal, Forbidden, Evil, and more have inferior susp eh?
Structurally, horst links can fail like PB's RM Slayer break. There's even more structurally sound options like fully triangulated rear swingarms without dropout pivots, like DW-Link, Switch Infinity, etc. also including the NS Bikes Nerd HD, Starling Murmur, and Focus Vice for single pivots.
"Mechanically", isn't it all preference? I prefer 100% brake squat/anti-rise over 50%, which a vast majority of linkage designs are moving towards, even some horst links like the RM Slayer (they could've made it into a faux bar). What difference is there in antisquat (plus related kickback) and leverage curve tuning between faux bar and horst link? I'll grant that if bike design got crazy, horst link would be more flexible for designers, but faux bar is solidly competitive with current conventional design.
Rift Zone vs Optic is a fair comparison that boils down to nitpicking, IMO.
Bicycles Online are onto a good thing with their consumer direct(ish) approach, seems like they've made steady progress in fostering the market for Indonesian built bikes, but like I said - still not as common as would be expected with such competitive pricing (from what I've observed anyway)
Don't need that much beef in them! Especially the rear.
Are you sure about that? I suspect the tires will make a much bigger difference for a bike with proper anti-squat especially when you have a lockout.
Has anyone actually measured this? I'd really like to know how much effect the travel amount has on the pedaling efficiency.
The reason to have 120 instead of 150 with comparable spec, IMO, is to have a more poppy, playful bike or to make tamer trails more fun. That's it.
Short travel bikes are fun, poppy and exciting to ride, even if they aren't necessarily the quickest to the bottom.
I would say that Performance Elite would make me say "good spec" at this level, but the Ripmo reviewed the other day is running similar level suspension on bikes costing almost twice as much.
I was able to buy everything I wanted instead of going with what the Manufacturer speced. Granted I did have to buy some stuff second hand to get the deals. But most of it was take off from new bikes. The only thing I sold off the Marin was the Recon. So I have all the stock parts to put back on it when I sell it. Or at least I have that choice.
Cannot believe how well it rides. I’ve always been a big travel rider but this is the way forward for the riding I’m going to be doing in the UK!!
Swapped out the brakes for my trusty Hope Tech 3s but everything else is sorted out the box. Even impressed with the Vee Rubber tyres.
Unbelievable value, Marin are smashing it at the moment
A horst link bike has the rear wheel attached to the seat stay, not the chain stay.
Little enough suspension, a good seat tube to get around some all day steep single track and hefty gravel roads, and a big fork to bomb the decent.
That’s all any of want to do isn’t it?
I'm also not sure why the Marin lists the price at $4400 when it doesn't seem to be possible to buy it for that. Any place that has it lists it for $4200 and doesn't list that as a sale. Maybe there is some spec difference I missed. So, with shipping the Nukeproof is $300 cheaper. I'd say that's a better deal, sure, but it isn't really egregious or what I'm going to base my expectations for other bikes on. If I liked the Marin better, I'd probably just wait and hope it went on sale. I think the Reactor will sell out before it gets there.
So, while I don't think this is a smoking value, it's basically middle of the road to decent for carbon framed bikes these days. I've yet to find any carbon bike at the price range running full XT, which is what the discussion started about in terms of expectations.
Many sell trail bikes that are better price to performance than this...
You don’t say?
(I can do this all day. Or for years it would seem. I have been...)
PB put this headline news.
How long are Marin lending bikes out to one journo for anyway?
I wonder what the optimum time would be between spy shot/first ride/full test articles. Perhaps someone could do some science on it.