Review: Mavic Deemax Elite Alloy Wheels

Sep 10, 2019
by Richard Cunningham  
Mavic Deemax Elite wheels


You only need to answer five questions to write a wheel review: How much do they cost? How stiff are they? How much do they weigh? Can I put a tire on them, and will they go the distance? If a wheelmaker misses any of those marks, there's no point in discussing fluff-stuff like spoke counts, tension bias, what material they're made from, rim profiles, or whether the freehub sings in the key of G or D-minor.


Mavic's Deemax Elite wheelset costs $700 USD. They strike a wonderful balance between precise-steering lateral stiffness and enough linear compliance to take the sting off of square-edge impacts. The 29-inch SRAM XD-driver configuration I reviewed weighed 2080 grams for the pair, with the valve stems and rim strips installed. You can mount a 2.5" Maxxis Minion tubeless with a mini pump, and after repeated runs through the rocks that sent Stan's fluid streaming from the tire casings on a number of occasions, the rims are still running true and the spokes are tight.

So, let's talk fluff...
Deemax Elite Details
• Use: Trail / Enduro
• Wheel Sizes: 29" & 27.5"
• Rim: Aluminum, ISM 4D machined, 30mm Inner width
• UST tubeless profile, molded liner
• Spokes: 28, S-steel, bladed, straight-pull
• Hubs: Mavic, tool-less axles, 6-bolt
• Instant Drive 360 freehub, 9° engagement
• Weight: 2080g (29"), 1945g (27.5")
• MSRP: $700 USD
• Contact: Mavic


Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Mavic's ISM 4D rim design: post-machining relieves metal from lower stressed areas of the rim, leaving thicker reinforcements at the spoke holes.


Construction & Features

Wider Rims: Deemax Elite rims measure a full 30 millimeters inside the flanges. Why is that so special? Mavic makes wide-format wheels, but they took an about face and returned to 25 and 28-millimeter inner-width rims for all-mountain and enduro at the peak of the wider-is-better revolution. Their rationale was basic survival: Sheltering their vulnerable aluminum rims under the thickest part of the tire's tread helped keep them rounder longer. Clever, yes, but in retrospect, the French should have pushed the green button when they jumped into the trail bike time machine.

Do two or five millimeters really make that much difference? That's arguable, but 30-millimeter inner-width rims are the new baseline. All good tires will be built around that number, so that extra width ensures you'll enjoy the correct tread profiles. Deemax Elite rims accept tires from 2.35 to 3-inches, and future proofs your wheel purchase.

Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Straight-pull hubs have been a Mavic trademark for many years. Elite wheels feature 28 bladed and blacked stainless spokes per wheel.

Steel Spokes: Stainless steel spokes, like guitar strings, do not suffer from fatigue when they are stretched and flexed. If a wheel is built properly they can safely lengthen or shorten (almost indefinitely) as the rim flexes and distorts, while maintaining proper tension. That magic makes wheels last longer and remain true. Deemax Elites each have 28 of them, and they are blacked out and bladed, which looks cool.

Straight-Pull Hubs: Some like them, some don't, but sound engineering practice says that rods in tension handle stress better when they are straight. There are enough subscribers to the straight-pull concept to ensure that replacement spokes will be readily available (Mavic sends two spares with each wheelset purchase).

Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Elite wheels can be configured with SRAM XD drivers (shown), conventional HG freehubs, or Shimano's new Microspline.

Star-Ratchet Freehub: Mavic calls it their Instant Drive 360 system, but it's basically the same simple and reliable ratcheting-disc clutch that DT Swiss pioneered. The ID 360 also growls the star-ratchet's familiar "Raaaaaaan.....clock clock clock" sounds, and with 40 stops, the Mavic version has nine-degree engagement intervals. ID 360 isn't going to qualify for this year's Freehub Click World Championships, but nine degrees is good enough for most of us. Freehubs are available for Shimano (including Microspline) and SRAM XD.

Tool-less Axles: Those with strong fingers can simply pull apart the axle bits to service the freehub ratchet, reconfigure the axle to a different freehub body, switch to a quick release axle (really?), or change the front axle diameter from 15 to 20 millimeters.

Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Mavic's tool-less axle system popped apart while I was fixing a flat...
Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
...Revealing the simplicity of its star-ratchet freehub system.

Six Bolt Interface: Mavic only offers the Elite wheels with six-bolt rotor interfaces, which may be a shrinker for Shimano Centerlock fans, but half the riders in my neck of the woods are running six-bolt conversions on their Shimano hubs. Either way, it's something to consider.

ISM 40 Rims: The short version is that Mavic leaves a bunch of extra aluminum on the inside of its rim extrusion and then CNC-machines most of it off, leaving reinforced areas where the spokes enter the rims and thinner walls at the lower-stressed segments of the structure. The process eliminates the need for spoke eyelets and also allows Mavic to balance the weight of the Presta valve stem. The rim's profile is also slightly flatter, which reportedly provides some comfort and extra grip over rough trails.

Great Tubeless System: Okay, it's a little heavier than some, but Mavic's clear (vinyl, I think) plastic tubeless rim strip and inner rim profile make for one of the best-sealing systems I have ever used. I set the beads of a Maxxis Minion DHF, EXO casing tire on the side of the trail with an asthmatic Lezyne mini-pump - in front of witnesses.

Not Too Heavy: Mavic pegs the weight of the 29-inch Elite wheels at 2040 grams, which jives with my scale. Mine weighed 2080 with the rim strips and valves installed. If you care, the rear wheel, outfitted with an XD driver, weighed 1100 grams and the front wheel weighed 980 grams. 27.5-inch wheels are lighter: 1940 grams for the pair.

Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Front hubs can be reconfigured for 20mm axles by switching the endcaps.


Riding Impressions

Let's talk about placebo effect. Anyone who earned spare cash participating in pharmaceutical drug tests can sympathize with the dilemma a wheel reviewer faces. On the bike, they all look the same. Any sensations generated exclusively by the wheels are filtered through the tire, suspension, the chassis, and through the handlebar - and, if you went to the maker's dog and pony show before testing them, there's a busload of preconceived notions circulating in your brain. Is it real, or is it a fake? With an imagination overdosed by doubt and anticipation, you pop the pill, and wait...

I accidentally dodged all that nonsense for this review. My motivation to mount up the Deemax Elites wasn't for a wheel review. I was testing a new 12-speed cassette and the Mavic hoops were the only 29-inch wheels laying around with an XD driver. Call it serendipity, but the mid-priced trail bikes I had been riding all year featured aluminum wheelsets at roughly comparable weights and nearly all of them were shod with Maxxis Minion EXO casing rubber. Unaware that I was in for a pleasant surprise, I mounted the same 2.5-inch DHR/DHF tires to a review bike I'd been riding for the better part of the summer, aired them up to my standard 22psi front/24psi rear and hit the dirt.

What a difference. The bike rolled noticeably better over the same trails and the overall feel under acceleration, the steering, the general feel of the bike under saddle, was brighter. I'm describing two-percent improvements here, but such gains are significant in today's hyper-evolved trail bike arena. Name one item you could buy for your bike that would improve nearly all aspects of its performance.

Two trails I ride regularly put the heat on the stiffness of both wheels and frames. One is a fast paced descent on a two foot-wide rut that puts a premium on holding a razor sharp line. The second is a prolonged descent over an array of rock outcrops which put a busload of lateral stress on the components. In both cases, the Deemax Elites put in a top-notch performance.

I enjoyed their more muted feel over the rocks and, combined with an eight-out-of ten judgement on their lateral stiffness, the wheels brought another measure of calmness and control to a trail bike that was already impressive on both counts.

I can't say they offered an improvement for climbing, but I can say with conviction that the Mavics felt brighter while powering around corners and rolling sections of the trail where I was regularly on and off the gas.

Durability? Buoyed by the confidence the Deemaxes gave me over the rocks, I bashed holes in the sidewalls of my Maxxis Minions on a few occasions - impacts that convinced me that I had flat-spotted my rims. Such was not the case, and while there are a few dents in the rim flanges, the Deemax rims are still running round and true. Spoke tension is slightly off here and there, but are far from needing a turn of the spoke key. I'm impressed.

Negatives
Do Aluminum Rims Last Longer?

The durability of aluminum rims has been overstated. For a wheel to retain its strength, both laterally and linearly, the rim has to be round and the spokes, evenly tensioned. An aluminum rim with a significant dent that can only be trued using wonky spoke tension may get you home, but performance-wise, it's just as dead as a cracked carbon rim.

The fact that aluminum rims are easy to dent is offset by their more affordable replacement cost and, perhaps more importantly, the ductility of aluminum ensures (most of the time) that you'll be able to nurse a fatally damaged wheel back to the trail head. Forego performance, and you may be able to nurse that wheel along for months.

Carbon rims stay round and maintain trueness much better than their aluminum counterparts - until they are damaged. A cracked carbon rim can also be ridden home, and compression cracks are far more common than separation failures. Once severed, though, the rider's sentence for a broken wheel is the dreaded walk of shame.

Issues? Only one. I applaud Mavic for engineering a tool-less axle system for the Deemax Elite hubs, but I'd advise the folks in charge of that aspect of the design to increase the tension of the O-rings that lock all the bits in place. Three times, an accidental tug on the cassette pulled the freehub mechanism off of the wheel, dropping the axle end and some of the freehub internals onto the ground. Not a happy outcome for expensive, precise-fitting greasy bits. I used up all of my mountain money to clean them.


Let's Compare: Stan's Flow EX3 VS Mavic Deemax Elite

Stan s Flow EX3
Stan's Flow EX3
Mavic Deemax Elite wheels
Mavic Deemax Elite

Stan's Flow EX3 wheels also have a rim that sets it apart from the crowd, Its low flanges actually better support the tire's sidewalls and inside the aluminum extrusion, a second bridge is added to increase impact resistance. The 29mm inner-width EX3 wheelset weighs 2150 grams, close to the 2080 grams of the 30mm inner-width Deemax Elites, and both arrive prepared for tubeless tires, with five star installation ratings. Mavic wins the durability game, not for its rim strength - both marquis excelled there - Mavic gets the nod because its spoke tension remained within spec, while the Stan's wheels needed a few tuneups. Stan's freehub ratchet is a conventional four-pawl system with a ten-degree engagement, while Mavic chose the star ratchet type with a nine-degree engagement. In this case I'd give the tie-breaker to Mavic.

Both wheelsets are targeted at the pointier end of trail riding, and Stan's goes further, adding a DH rating to the EX3. Both wheelsets came through their reviews without a serious dent, so I'll call that even. Remarkably, both wheesets carry the same $700 USD MSRP as well.


Pros

+ Great balance of stiffness and compliance
+ Durable aluminum rims
+ Best in class tubeless installation


Cons

- Tool-less axles came apart too easily
- Nine-degree freehub engagement may be too coarse for you
- Not heavy, but certainly not lightweight


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesMavic's Deemax Elite is a great wheelset upgrade for a high amplitude rider with a mid-priced bike who wants a versatile, pro-quality wheel build that will go the distance. Surprising performance under power from an aluminum wheelset that weighs 100 grams more than many of its competitors.RC







112 Comments

  • 85 3
 Deemax rims should be yellow.
  • 20 3
 Well you clearly aren't innovative. Just dip them in custard. Problem solved.
  • 5 4
 @bigtim: that's what she said
  • 2 0
 I was just thinking not enough yellow.
  • 2 0
 And rated for dh
  • 2 0
 @bigtim: doubles as sealant?
  • 3 0
 @bigtim: thanks now i want to eat custard
  • 73 32
 A dent in a aluminum rim is as bad as a crack in a carbon rim? I beg to differ.
I've straightened many dents in aluminum rims, DH and XC, with patience and time you can take most wheels to their original shape.
With a cracked carbon rim, what can you do? Superglue? Duct tape?
  • 59 14
 It’s the bigger hits, the ones that turn your alloy rim into a shape that’s closer to a square, that RC was referring to. The line reads, “An aluminum rim with a significant dent that can only be trued using wonky spoke tension may get you home, but performance-wise, it's just as dead as a cracked carbon rim.”

But you’re right, smaller dents in an aluminum rim can often be straightened without any issues, while there’s no fix for a cracked carbon rim.
  • 10 4
 Carbon rims sound like a gun shot when they explode so ear protection should be included. Liking these new Mavics, are they speaking to the public or do I have to use connections for parts?
  • 12 2
 If its a big enough impact to ruin a (properly specced and designed) carbon rim, it's more than big enough to kill most aluminium rims. Aluminium has a lower threshold before it dents or bends, I kill rear wheels by battering them into submission over a year or so, nothing major, no massive dents or anything, just 19st of gorilla being less than graceful slowly mishaping the rim, if I could afford it I have no doubt carbon rims would last forever for me, because they can shrug off the kind of hits that leave a mark on alu but doesnt kill it at first. It's all about being realistic in your skills and how you kill components. I've just scrapped a flow ex rim, it looked perfectly fine, but had a few flat spots and a hell of a warp by the time I replaced it, even after a truing up.
  • 7 2
 ummm, carbon rims can be repaired. I don't know, where the myth about unrepairable carbon rims came from.

See here:
imgur.com/a/uvqSeI1 This is an ultralight nextie rim, that has been abused both before and after the repair.
  • 2 0
 I'm over carbon hoops, for the most part, and run alloy on both of my bikes, but a carbon wheel won't likely show any ill effect to the type of impact that might just ding an alloy rim.
  • 5 0
 @scvkurt03: Agree. I've got carbon hoops made by a canadian manufacturer who's name I wont mention as it makes the pinkbike community explode, and everytime I hear an impact I'm glad I've got carbon because it's one less dent I need to fix when I get home.
  • 3 0
 @mikekazimer: I understood what RC wrote, but the thing is: I can thrust a dented, wobbly aluminum rim,as it won't present other problem than stability at high speed or vibration at lower speed.
With the cracked carbon rim, you'll ride with your heart in your hands, because you won't know if or when it will explode into pieces.
Would like to see a high-impact resistance test between aluminum and carbon wheels, both in XC and Enduro categories.
  • 4 3
 @embi: Umm on at least 5 occasions have had to either walk or call for assistance because people riding with me literally blew a rim to pieces. I have one on Go pro in slowmo.
  • 4 1
 @jorgeposada: So do broken fibulas when you hit a tree really hard. Can Confirm.
  • 1 1
 @TheBearDen: Femurs, ankles, noses, wrists, fingers, toes, vertebrae, jaws all sound the same way ironically. Imagine that.
  • 2 2
 @jorgeposada: I recently bought a Mavic gravel wheelset (Allroad Elite) and was able to contact Mavic directly for an axle-conversion kit. Got a real person on the phone who sent me exactly what I needed for a not-exorbitant fee. Super happy with those wheels.
  • 2 1
 @colelarsen6: That's great, tell them most people I know don't use mavic because they have to go through a dealer. I have a contact there so it's a bit different for me but that has to suck.
  • 2 1
 @mikekazimer: another point worth noting many alloy rims don’t have much warranty vs carbon rims do get free replacement with many brands for 1 or 2 years.
  • 1 0
 @Tmackstab: yup I probably have the same wheels. The other day I hit a pointed rock with the front wheel and felt the sickness through the bars. I stopped at the bottom thinking I was going to be using the lifetime warranty. Nothing
  • 2 0
 @omclive: Lifetime warranty you say? Yup same wheels for sure Wink
  • 2 0
 @colelarsen6: Same, I needed an axle conversion kit last year and called them directly. Had no problem reaching someone.
  • 1 3
 @nozes: when I hear this cracked carbon is safe or they take more damage without breaking I joke with my friends why don’t we slice your bar with a razor and slice my bars and go hit some ten sets or take a rock and put a cut in your carbon rim and do some threes “that’s not the same”
  • 1 3
 Hahaha I have a aluminum rim on a ht older than you guys that has done things you dream of still.
  • 1 1
 @jorgeposada: what are these things you have done?
  • 1 0
 @TheBearDen: If aluminium rim's felt like talking to Canadians.
  • 34 1
 Anyone care to address the elephant in the room, that a lot of the top pro's are running 25mm internal width rims (EX471) and winning?
Futhermore, they seem to be running 2.4" WT maxxis DHRs (Danny Hart), which are "optimised" for 35mm rims.

I'm not sure there are any benefits to the "wider is better" rim fashion. Mavic seemed to come to the same conclusion, not making wide rims but then were forced to make wider rims due to marketing driven demand.
  • 1 0
 I don't know if I agree with everything in the following article, but this is some more information on this debate, albeit not from a strictly MTB perspective (but relevant nevertheless I think).

janheine.wordpress.com/2019/06/26/myth-18-wide-tires-need-wide-rims

My dt swiss wheels came with a tyre width chart not dissimilar to the one in the above article.

I definitely think there is a point where wider is not better, and that there probably is an optimum rim width for tyre width. I'm not sure that its 30mm inner width for 2.4 wide or something else. The DT swiss chartI have has really wide banding, but if you took the mid points and believe them, maybe that's it.
  • 3 6
 i'm using 2.4 tires on 19mm internal width rims. The front tire is nice and round, and grips every place it can find. It surprises me with traction, especially where i'm prepared to let the front slide i'm used to my old 2.0 tires.
In the rear, same thing. But with the tire being less agressive in the middle and more in the edges, it grips way better than imagined from me. Also, on asphalt i notice the rear tire wobbling, not the front. In the woods? I can't notice it, but i'm almos convinced that it's a helper.
  • 6 1
 The Maxxis WT tires are "intended" for 30-35mm internal. This has been covered many times before, I think.
The DH riders due tend to have rims in the 25-30 range, with loads of EX471s rolling around at 25. But, from the bikes in EWS I've noticed they are commonly running wider rims than their DH counterparts.
More Stan's Flows (29mm internal) and EX511 (30mm).

But, I think the rim choice is one of those highly visible pro-level choices that us mortals have a harder time rationalizing. Pros also tend to have pretty wild suspension tunes that I wouldn't touch with a 10ft pole.
  • 3 0
 Ran DH on the 471 for a few years. Worked well but went out of true maybe a bit too fast. Changed over to the fr570 (now the 560) and while the traction may be better I’m getting rim dings far more frequently. Even with more pressure, like 3-4 more psi. At 180#, riding 25/30 psi, I’m dinging rims. Even through Flat Tire Defenders. Next build I’m going back to the 471.
  • 1 0
 I think the wider rims benefit bikes that are being used on trail bikes, smoother trails and generally less aggressive terrain & riding. On a DH bike, getting the pressures low enough to really benefit from wider rims seems unrealistic cause at the speeds being ridden & proper gnarl lower pressures are just gonna lead to disaster. i25 still gives the best profile to my schwalbe 2.35s (mary/razor), but I do like a wider tire on the back for a little stability, but again, in the park that thing is so hard to avoid flats that I can't really take advantage of the width.
  • 3 0
 Whatever everyone else runs, all I know is I absolutely love my reserve 37mm's with a 2.6" tires on them Smile
  • 2 1
 Funny, when the WT tires came out Maxxis specifically said they were designed around 35mm IW rims. That was still when trends were pushing wider and 35mm seemed like goldilocks. Then people finally realized casing roll issues vs casing weight and trends contracted back to around 30mm....then all of a sudden Maxxis starts saying they are intended for 30-35. Hum.
  • 1 0
 Yeah wondering about that too. A comparison with pictures of WT tire profiles on 25mm and 30mm rims would be nice, especially since the newest tires are often made exclusively in WT and Maxxis surely can't offer every combination. And while we're on the subject they should change the DHRII to the same dimensions as a DHF because running a 2.4 DHRII up front and a 2.5 Aggressor in the back just seems wrong...
  • 16 0
 “The durability of aluminum rims has been overstated. For a wheel to retain its strength, both laterally and linearly, the rim has to be round and the spokes, evenly tensioned. An aluminum rim with a significant dent that can only be trued using wonky spoke tension may get you home, but performance-wise, it's just as dead as a cracked carbon rim.”

As an ex World Cup mechanic whose built and trued hundreds of wheels, that is a GROSS overstatement. Yes the wheels performance may be compromised.

“As dead as cracked carbon” pull the other one, it has bells attached.
  • 8 0
 More information please. I'm listening.
  • 6 0
 Yeah, me too.
  • 8 0
 @ranke: @iamamodel:

Imagine a buckle running out of true by approx 4/5mm spread over say 150/200mm. That will be quite possible to pull true and keep spoke tensions within the widely accepted norm of 20% variance. Say from 90 slackest to 110kgf tightest. (On race wheels I always tried to stick with 15% for my own piece of mind) My experience has shown that this leaves wheels with no noticeable weakness. Am sure if you measured the strength of these wheels in a laboratory condition they will be weaker than a perfect build, but noticeable to humans? I VERY much doubt. I’ve built and trued enough wheels used at the highest level that I’d have noticed failures by now. (Am not talking about rims/spokes/nipples with obvious stress fractures)

To say these wheels are “dead” is a gigantic overstatement. If that was really the case then someone needs to go round any race pit, collect all the spoke keys and throw them in the bin, along with all the “dead” aluminium rims.
  • 10 2
 .@Cord1 ..But I'll bet you replaced every one of those dented alloy rims before race day.
  • 4 1
 @RichardCunningham: Ha ha, maybe 99% of them! But would you want to get on the wrong side of Kovarik!!! And come on, you know that’s not a fair comparison, LOTS of components are swapped before race run irrespective of what they’ve done.
  • 18 0
 My favourite part is how they’re round.
  • 3 0
 No, no, no my friend... These are in fact "chiliagon" shaped to provide for supreme traction during the toughest of ascents and descents that require braking while turning.
  • 15 3
 Okay, and what if you have a dented in 4 years time? Replacements rims are hard to find, and the proprietary spokes cannot be found in other lengths, so you can't lace another brands rim to the hubs... they all go into the landfill together.
  • 6 0
 You can get straight pull blanks, cut them to any length.
  • 1 0
 I've got a pair of Mavic XA elite and it took me about 5 minutes online to find some spare spokes. Hardly a deal breaker.
  • 1 0
 @spaceofades: okay, I stand corrected!
  • 11 2
 RC still takes the prize (Mike Levy isn’t far off) for the best writing on Pinkbike. Clever, thorough, averse to cliches, willing to opine, and almost seeming to be let down by needing to add bullet points at the end - as if they’re a chore after the proper analysis and real prose that preceded them. His work is a treat to read. And with all of his industry experience he’s definitely in a position to call bluffs and challenge the more outlandish marketing verbiage. Good reviewer choice for a no-nonsense brand like Mavic.
  • 3 0
 Agreed - really enjoyed the writing in this article.

Although I think "marques", not "marquis", is the word he was looking for.
  • 11 1
 that review after world champs. let's ask greenland and payet about the surprising performance.
  • 5 0
 Watching Greenland "lotery style" I think he could destroyed every wheels you trust bombproof He can only blame himself imho...
  • 11 1
 Would never ever buy a Mavic Wheel set. Their customer service is sooooo bad!
  • 12 4
 Or just get the hunt wheels at the same weight with 36 spokes in the rear for 300 less
  • 7 1
 Got hunts on a hard arse. Mangled a trail spec rim in two weeks, and the enduro one isn't failing much better. Inserts + DD casing @30psi. Front is doing better but not by much. Maybe I just suck.
  • 4 1
 or get I9, when they are on sale.. nothing beats i9 on sale..
  • 3 1
 @dirtyburger: I have their Gravel alu wheels. The freehub wobbles when I spin the axle or when the wheel spins. The freehub also doesn't engage properly a lot of times (happens multiple times every ride). When I coast and then start pedalling again, it skips a bit, and makes a sound like the rear hub just exploded. They sent me a new rear wheel, it's exactly the same. Then they said oh that's normal, it's "just" a missed engagement. To be honest, they were very nice the whole time, and handled the wheel exchange super quick, and I was the dumbass for not asking for a refund in the first 60 days. I don't think i'll go Hunt again tho, to be honest I have no idea how they have so many happy users. I wouldn't have the balls to release a wheel like this and call the freehub body not engaging properly "normal". I know they don't make their own components, but still.
  • 1 0
 These Deemax Elites can be had for much less than retail (as can pretty much all components if you just look around):

www.bike-components.de/en/Mavic/Deemax-Elite-6-bolt-Disc-29-Boost-Wheelset-p66711
  • 2 0
 Or how about Newmen Evolution A.30 for the same price and 300g lighter?
  • 1 0
 If Hunt wheels are so bad, I guess I better don‘t buy that Privateer 161? As there are the same people behind it.
  • 7 2
 I'll stick with aluminum rims because all the plastic ones are overpriced and I always break them. I can make a plastic wheel last on the front but plastic rims always gets destroyed on the rear of my ride. If you just road bike park smooth Trails all day plastic Hoops are probably fine. Go play in the rocks for a season and see how many you go through!
  • 3 1
 this.
  • 4 1
 Rode the same trails- for two full seasons- at Northstar that most people deemed the gnarliest Rock gardens of the entire ews season on a set of "plastics." Speed, riding style, line choice, and luck are all factors. 6 of one... Good wheels are good wheels.
  • 3 0
 @pinnityafairy you should try the carbon fiber rims, much better than plastic mag wheels bru.
  • 4 0
 @MrDiamondDave: if you can't make it through the Rock Garden on your 20 inch Skyway mags you might as well just hang it up cuz you suck.
  • 1 0
 @pinnityafairy: haha lol SEND IT !
  • 9 3
 DT 350+Oozy Trail+Sapim Hardware 500 €. I'd never go for proprietary wheels if a have that option..
  • 5 0
 Oozy Trail over DT's XM and EX rims?
  • 1 2
 I've seen so many Spank rims split at the seam, I don't trust them anymore.
  • 1 0
 @drpheta: The choice of rims is up to you, doesn't alter the price in the end. The BOM ist actually around 350 € at my local supplier, there is a "" missing in my post. There are 150 € calculated for getting them built, or a trueing stand...
However, my point is: the mavics don't do anything better. (except comming ready to ride off the shelf)
  • 6 0
 Decent Alu wheelset review is much appreciated. Good job.
  • 2 0
 So a couple of things.

1. I have the previous version on these wheels on my bike.

I also had 30mm wide wheels on that bike. Now that the rims are narrower, it seems easier to initiate bike lean in corners and the wheels seem quite a bit stiffer than the 30 mm alu rims.

I also had Stans Flows on a earlier bike and would agree they’re very comparable.



The Deemax has made me a fan of Mavic.


If it’s good enough for Sam Hill to race on, I feel pretty confident in the product.
  • 3 0
 So good to see a review with a comparison that most people can relate to. I have yet to meet someone that doesn't know someone with an ex3. They're just everywhere.
  • 2 0
 I'm still going strong with my Flow ex2's and they are amazing. I think two spoke replacements in four years. Four years of 1-2 rides per week of North Shore riding.
  • 4 1
 Mavic finally abandonned pawls hubs and those weird alloy spokes. These wheels look like nice options, but 2050g is quite heavy for trail riding.
  • 2 0
 I have these on my hardtail and they're great, period.

Plus, I got them for less than $500 in the US: www.bike-components.de/en/Mavic/Deemax-Elite-6-bolt-Disc-29-Boost-Wheelset-p66711
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  • 3 0
 What ever happened the the mavic 823? I had a set of them that lasted for 4 whistler bike park seasons before going to 27.5. heavy but bulletproof
  • 1 0
 I ran them last season; at almost 2kg, they are on the heavier side, but they are super tough. Did a few enduro races on them, they took a few impacts but never got a dent and stayed true. Tubeless set-up was a breeze. And I had the same feeling of the bike feeling "brighter". Great wheels!
  • 1 0
 Been running the same Mavic en521’s(26” aluminum) wheels with Hope pro II hubs since 2011 with no probs. Yeah, there are dings in them but a little truing here and there and they work great. Actually just converted them to tubeless with a Stan’s kit and put on new rubber, two Kenda Excavators for half price cause yeah, they’re 26” and everything works awesome!
  • 4 0
 The way carbon is talked about, it’s like they reinvented the wheel.
  • 1 0
 Carbon hoops are repairable. I cracked one with a rock hit, loud crack noise and all, and rode it for months with an epoxy repair I did at home. It never went out of true and held air just fine.
  • 1 0
 No bullshit review - check Competitors - check 30 mm width - check Price - check Thnx PinkBike! Generally speaking Mavic latest wheels options are good per price range they cost, O still would choose Newman over mavic
  • 1 0
 Any chance deemax or any other aluminum wheel manufacturer would offer limetime warantee? I've cracked both aluminum and carbon rims in same season...thankful bike came with lifetime warantee carbon rims
  • 1 0
 I've had a spoke pull the flange apart on MY2018 Mavic XA wheelset after just five minutes on the trail. Rly bad hub design if you ask me.
  • 2 0
 XA is just generally garbage
  • 2 0
 Don't know why someone would choose these over the 2020 DH version. Supposedly same weight, more durable, and J-bend spokes.
  • 1 0
 Indeed, I believed Mavic were switching to J - bends on all its offerings - clearly not.
  • 4 0
 Best intro ever.
  • 2 0
 ••••••••••••••••Deemax = Yellow Colour••••••••••••••:Blank Stare
  • 2 0
 Having liked the older dee max wheels, the only gripe I have is that they’re not bright yellow
  • 1 0
 Maxxis WT are said to be better on 30-35mm rims but what about those WT on 25mm Loic Bruni rims? Maybe he is using old style non WT Maxxis tires?
  • 1 0
 I have had the Mavic Enduro yellows and the Mavic Crossmaxx WTS and never had an issue with either of them. I agree that I miss the all yellow gems!
  • 2 0
 I ran a set of deemax for over 5yrs, only ever needed to service the bearings, those wheels ran truer than any other wheel I’ve ever had. Bulletproof.
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 MAVIC FOR THE WIN. AS ALWAYS
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 mavic=shit
  • 2 1
 "Nine-degree freehub engagement may be too coarse for you"........... Kids today.
  • 2 0
 proprietary spokes, just go away and never come back.
  • 2 0
 Now THAT is how you write a review. Thank you RC.
  • 1 0
 Got them on my DH bike. Did a full race season on them. Will probably last for another season of racing
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 But do they make Maxxis tires go straight on the rim after you put them on and inflate them?
  • 1 0
 Ok just go with Newmen sl a30 strong lighter and a bit cheaper
  • 1 0
 Uh, that doesn't fit to Keith Bontrager's “strong, light, cheap, pick two”,
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 @felger: I wouldn´t call 700euro wheelset cheap though? Reasonably priced maybe.
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 hate it when they don't align the tire size/pressure max "sticker" up with the valve stem Razz
  • 1 0
 How thick are the bead hooks?
  • 1 0
 Pretty heavy with bladed spokes and straight pull hubs.
  • 1 0
 Why is there not a single picture of the rim without a tire mounted?
  • 1 0
 As long as there's no 26"....................Haha.
  • 1 0
 Lost me at straight pull.

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