Review: Öhlins RXF36 M2 Trail Fork

Nov 1, 2019
by Dan Roberts  




The heritage of Öhlins runs deep. Founded back in 1976 by Kenth Öhlin, it was born out of passion by a man who spent most of his spare time doing what he loved best: motocross. This passion obviously worked a treat and only two short years after it was founded, Öhlins won its first World Championship title.

More than forty years on it seems that the roots of Öhlins still lie in passion and striving for perfection. Their “Original Gold” products command a high level of desirability from far and wide.

Having lusted after their suspension for quite some time, it was time to curb the schoolboy Lamborghini-poster-style yearns and adopt an analytical and objective head to see if it’s just the gold exterior colour or something more, lurking deep inside, that draws people to this Swedish suspension manufacturer.

RXF36 m.2 Fork Details

Tested: 160mm & 170mm 29er, Air, 44mm Offset
Spring System: Coil or Air
Damper System: TTX18 Twin Tube Cartridge
Travel: Coil: 130 - 170mm, Air: 150 - 180mm
Wheel size: 27.5" & 29"
Offsets: 38mm or 46mm (27.5") and 44mm or 51mm (29")
Axle to Crown: 580mm (160mm 29") and 590 (170mm 29")
Hub/Axle Standard: 110mm x 15mm (Boost)
Weight: 2104g / 4.64 lb (170mm travel, 44mm offset, 198mm steerer, including axle and hose clamp)
Price: $1250 USD / 1189 EUR
More info: Öhlins MTB

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The pinch bolt axle system ensures proper alignment of fork legs.
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Mudguard mounts, but as yet, no Ohlins mudguard.

Function, Details & Features

Chassis

Almost no plastic bits or pieces adorn the fork and all the well crafted metal parts feel solid and tactile. Rubber seals are nestled away in the caps and adjusters to keep the damp and debris from entering the internals. Its stealth black appearance could make it lost in the sea of murdered out forks that are a rider favourite colour at the moment, but the gold lower leg decals and air top cap instantly give it away in a crowd as something else.

Öhlins use a pinch bolt system on their axle. Both the axle and the pinch bolt use a 5mm Allen key to initially tighten the axle and then clamp the lower leg around it. Sure, it takes a tool and maybe 10 seconds more than a QR through axle, but allowing the tolerances of your hub to define where the fork legs sit can introduce unwanted friction by having the uppers compress into the lower legs at an angle rather than directly and smoothly straight up and down. There’s a lot of talk about fancy seals lately, which the Öhlins fork does have, but this small detail goes a long way to ensuring low friction in the system.

The fork chassis uses 36mm diameter stanchions and a redesigned crown, compared to their previous fork, for additional stiffness. Gone is the built-in headset crown race and now there’s a standard diameter ready to accept any and all headset races for tapered forks. Attention was also given to matching the stiffness of the lowers to the crown and steerer unit. Balancing them out helps give predictability from the fork as it flexes around, storing and returning energy. Blue SKF wiper seals sit at the top of the fork and are aimed to reduce friction while still having increased performance in wet conditions.

The fork lowers house a double set of large bushings that are sized to have just the right balance of play and fit to provide a good solid sliding connection while incurring the minimum friction. Tire clearance is also improved over the previous fork with up to 3.2” tires on the 27.5” forks and 2.8” tires on the 29” version - if you’re a fan of bigger rubber then there’s plenty of room. Alternatively, if you’re not, then there’s absolutely tons of mud clearance, which is always welcome as no one likes a bike so clogged up with peanut butter that it stubbornly won’t move.


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The stand-alone air spring unit can be whipped out easily and in no time.


Spring System

I tested the air-sprung RXF36 (there's also a coil sprung option available), which has some neat little features that differentiate Öhlins from the competition. As is commonly used, there are two chambers handling the main and negative spring. A transfer port allows the passage of air between these two chambers as the fork compresses and rebounds. This auto-equalizing should provide the right balance between the chambers no matter the rider weight and avoid problems for people at the extremes of the rider weight window.

Where things differ and get interesting is in the addition of a third chamber: the ramp chamber. Adjusting the pressure in here affects the ramp characteristics of the fork. Commonly this characteristic is modified with the addition or removal of plastic tokens, changing the air spring volume inside the main chamber. But Öhlins ditched the plastic and use a separate ramp up piston and air pressure to change the behaviour of the fork.

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Main air chamber adjusted via the top of the fork while the ramp chamber is adjusted via the bottom.


As the fork starts to compress, the volume of the main chamber decreases and the pressure increases. Once the pressure builds high enough the ramp piston begins to move and squish the volume inside the ramp chamber. Having a lower ramp chamber pressure will initiate the ramp up piston movement sooner in the travel and provide less overall force back than a highly pressurized ramp chamber. The beauty of this system lies in the ability to tune more the behaviour of your fork, rather than just the final portion of travel, while keeping the same initial stroke suppleness. Having it adjusted by psi also opens up the adjustment window to finer tuning. Cutting tokens down with a hacksaw is also possible in conventional forks, but adding or removing a psi here and there is even simpler, and the character changes to the fork are nicely perceivable when riding.

3 Chamber 2 Piston Air Spring
3 chambers and 2 pistons allow fine tuning of the fork's feel and character.

The volumes of the main/negative chamber and ramp chamber can also be adjusted with spacers, but this is something to be done by an Öhlins MTB service centre. The pressure adjustment options already on the fork are more than enough for the vast majority of the riding population, but given this extra internal adjustment, Öhlins should be able to get you absolutely dialed in if you or your terrain require something slightly different.

The air spring unit is a stand-alone sealed unit, which can be removed from the fork with minimal effort, readily available tools and no loss to the lower leg bath oil (if you have the fork horizontal). Changing travel can either be done by purchasing a different main air tube for around 35 EUR/USD, a route that requires more work, or a complete air spring unit can be had for 100 EUR/USD and, which takes 15 minutes of easy wrenching to install.


TTX18 Damper
TTX18 damper cutaway.

Damping System

Öhlins has been working with twin tube damping architecture for longer than most across the spectrum of genres that they offer products for. Twin tube is as simple as it sounds, with two tubes housed inside each other providing a circulation of oil from in front of the piston to behind and vice versa as the fork compresses and rebounds. The idea behind this concept is to remove any risk of cavitation (a rapid change in pressure that can cause the formation of vapor filled voids, resulting in an inconsistent fluid properties). The experience Öhlins have with this layout means they can precisely manage the pressures over the piston, keeping them within a range then ensures performance.


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The rebound adjuster is tucked out of harm's way at the bottom of the fork and houses clearly indented clicks.
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The black high speed compression adjuster is on the outside, with the blue low speed compression adjuster in the center.

The RXF36 m.2 has their updated TTX18 damper. TTX refers to the twin tube architecture and 18 refers to the 18mm diameter of the main piston, which happens to be the exact same piston used in the DH38 fork. Again, it’s a stand-alone sealed unit that can be whipped out fast and cleanly for maintenance or setting changes. The main piston houses the low speed adjuster, takes care of rebound damping and also a portion of compression duties. Situated at the top of the fork, above the main piston, is the compression valve which handles only compression duties. High speed compression is controlled with a shim stack, with the external high-speed compression adjuster varying its effective clamp diameter on the shim stack and so controlling its stiffness and damping force. The low speed oil flow is controlled by a bleed needle in the compression valve.

The low speed rebound adjuster, at the bottom of the fork, can adapt to changes in temperature by using the different expansion rates of steel and aluminium. This means that the rebound should stay closer to your preferred setting no matter the ambient and operating temperatures that you put your fork through.

TTX18 Compression Rebound Oil Flow
Compression and rebound oil flow through the TTX18 damper.

At low compression speeds the oil flows through the bleed valve on the main piston and compression valve. The low speed adjuster meters the amount of oil flowing through the orifice and controls the rider input into the bike, allowing you to find the optimum ride position and weight transfer between the front and rear contact patches regardless of the terrain. When the fork compression speed is high enough the oil starts to flow through the shim stacks on the main piston and compression piston. The higher the pressure, the more the shim stacks will open.

On the rebound stroke, the check valve at the bottom of the damping unit closes and forces all the rebound oil flow through the high and low speed channels of the main piston. High speed flow is controlled by the main piston shim stack and low speed oil flow is controlled by the bleed needle, which changes the size of the rebound bleed opening.

The TTX18 cartridge's standard tune does have less damping overall than the previous TTX22 cartridge. This is still more than what they’ve measured their competitors to have, but they do have a catalogue of 7-10 proven compression and rebound tunes that every service center has access to if you do end up going down the custom tuned route. Basically, the fork is greatly adjustable out of the box, but behind the scenes Öhlins have a huge amount of combinations available, both on the air spring and damping side, ready to go.





Setup

Once the fork is all bolted into the bike it’s on with the setup. Öhlins has an online performance suspension guide to not only help setup on purchased products, but also find the right products for your bike. Inputting your bike brand, model, rider weight (all kitted up) and preferred sag percentage will output a complete list of the products available and advised for your bike with recommended setup numbers to get you in the ballpark as fast as possible. There’s also a pressure guide printed on the side of the fork.

With the three-chamber air spring design you should always start by inflating the ramp chamber to set the piston to the top of the chamber, followed by inflating the main air chamber and regularly equalizing the negative chamber. Öhlins recommend between 10-15% sag on the fork, recognizing that head angles are generally slack enough to require less sag in the parking lot.

The rebound adjuster has 18 clicks in total, all nicely indented and having an audible click to let you know where you are, even when the damn loud cow bells are ringing all around.



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Dan Roberts // Technical Contributor
Age: 32
Location: Champéry, Switzerland
Height: 188cm (6'2”)
Weight: 75kg (165 lbs)
Industry affiliations / sponsors: Garage Bike Project, former engineer at Scott Sports
Instagram: @le_crusher
Test Locations: Champéry, Morgins, Bex, Pila/Aosta, Châtel, Torgon

The compression adjuster is split into a familiar high-speed outer dial surrounding a low speed dial. The high-speed adjuster has four settings. The first three dealing with adjusting the compression for riding situations and the fourth being a platform to use for long climbs. The low speed compression adjuster has 16 clicks which work across the range of high-speed compression settings.

As is the case with the rebound adjuster, all the compression adjusters have a solid feel to their indents along with an audible click. There are no worries in vagueness in getting your setup dialled or figuring out where you are in the range. Öhlins measure the clicks from the hard stop of fully closed, meaning that all adjustments are from the same reference point.

I started at 110psi in the main chamber, 210psi in the ramp chamber, rebound at 7 clicks and all compression adjusters fully open. I ran the ramp up pressure higher than stated on the side of the fork or in the online setup guide due to the severity of the trails where I were was testing.

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Performance

Testing began on the Champéry World Cup track, where’s not really a window of warm up available and you’re straight into it whether you’re ready or not. But, being thrown to the wolves this quickly really shows if your bike and setup have your back with a startling speed.

Having swapped out both the fork and shock for new items provided a bit of a foreign feeling. The smoothness couldn’t be denied, but a bit of knob tweaking was needed to find the sweet spot. Not deterred, and knowing how well each click on the fork translated into a perceivable feeling while riding. I cracked on with getting it dialled in. Some products take a while to get to that setting where you would violently fend off people from moving your clickers as it feels that damn good. The Öhlins only took two shots and we were sucking diesel.

Ride height, traction and bottom out all felt remarkably spot on from my car park setup. But there was a bit of chassis stability lacking. Again, a new shock too made everything a degree more foreign. Rebound was opened a click and low speed compression clicks were added to control the compression stroke a little while allowing the fork to return a little faster.

Traction was there in bundles and built into creamy support when the energy inputs got higher. The fork blended away and it felt like I had a direct connection with what was going on at the ground. I could push hard knowing how much traction was available and that the fork had the support to push back and cradle me like a baby wrapped up in a 100% cotton blanket. I have to be honest - that feeling is addictive.

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Morgins, just around the corner from Champéry, is an absolute jewel of riding spots. Behind the scenes it was conceived as a testing ground for bikes, suspension, setups and braveness levels. The tracks were designed to weight and unweight bikes to actually create problems that, through design and tinkering, could then be fixed. There are roots, rocks, huge jumps, wild G-force generating corners all laid out in such a way as to demand a bike be ridden. And when you do, the forced grin on your face lasts for days and is resurrected by even the simple thought of hitting just one of the glorious vert berms.

For Morgins, where I'll typically run a harder and firmer setup, the ramp up chamber was upped to 225psi, and this added bottom out resistance was welcomed on the large gaps and flat landings that ensue if you decide to pull up at the right moment. Added to this spring support, the HSC could be clicked up a notch or two to hydraulically help in those high energy occurrences. In making these changes to handle the upped energy levels no detrimental changes traction and small bump absorption were made. The fork still remained as buttery smooth as ever.

With one end of the spectrum dialled it was time to see if the RXF36 could meet the differing demands of trails less touched by man that are in abundance in the Alps, hiding in plain sight while you ride the chair lifts. The fork was easily softened in compression and ramp chamber psi, retaining that creamy traction and support and letting you really get on with the task of negotiating the thin winding ribbon of single trail without second guessing your fork's behaviour, which is hugely valuable when riding things blind and reacting on instinct.

The adjuster clicks may not win at top trumps but each one of them is useable. Essentially, there is less scope for arriving at a completely shit setup. Each setting has its own characteristic that is easy to feel. The fact that the fork can be so easily tuned from full on Morgins charging to jelly armed last runs of the day out in the podunk middle of nowhere while all the time remaining supple when you need it, supportive when you need it, and most importantly controlled and predictable make its performance mightily impressive.



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Final Setups

Flat out hard charging (e.g. Morgins): 110psi in the main chamber, 225psi in the ramp chamber, 8 R, 6 LSC and 1 HSC.

Steep & demanding (e.g. Champéry): 110psi in the main chamber, 225psi in the ramp chamber, 8 R, 6 LSC and 2 HSC.

Steep natural riding (e.g. Bex): 110psi in the main chamber, 225psi in the ramp chamber, 8 R, 8 LSC and 3 HSC.

Rocky, rooty natural single track (e.g. Off the beaten track Châtel, Torgon, Pila & Aosta): 110psi in the main chamber, 210psi in the ramp chamber, 8 R, 10 LSC and 3 HSC.


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Air spring unit uses a cassette tool to remove it from the fork crown and a simple nut at the base with no need for a hammer.


Servicing

Öhlins recommend a lower leg removal, clean and inspection of bushings and seals and new bath oil (if it’s necessary) every 50 hours. Home mechanics with standard tools and a bit of knowledge can do this no problem.

The lower rods of the air spring and damping unit aren’t an interference fit to the lowers, so you can leave your favourite hammer in your tool box. It makes it super easy to do maintenance on the fork and there have been absolutely no issues with oil loss through the non-interference fit. Every 100 hours or 1-year Öhlins suggest that you have your air spring and damping cartridge rebuilt, new lower leg seals, new bump rubbers and new bath oil. All this should be carried out by an authorised Öhlins MTB service centre.

As mentioned, we upped the travel from 160mm to 170mm and did this by swapping out the entire air spring unit. It took 15 minutes, two standard tools (plus the ones to take the fork off the bike) and lost no bath oil from the lowers. An absolute piece of cake.


Issues

After over three months of hammering, in some of the most challenging terrain and with most of that time spent with the fork’s adjusters wound pretty damn far in to provide a damn firm setup to handle this terrain, we can report a grand total of zero issues. Nothing. Zilch. No leaks, creaks, noises, drops in performance, the slightest hint of getting flustered or getting its knickers in a twist.



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Ohlins RXF36 m.2 Trail compared to the Fox Factory 36 RC2.


How does it compare?

Up until riding the RXF36 a trusty Fox Factory 36 RC2 had been bolted to the front of my RAAW Madonna. Having not put in enough time on a Grip 2 cartridge it’s not fair to attempt to compare it to that, so the still very competent performer, the RC2, is the comparison.

Both forks are flagship models, have brilliant adjustability and are pointed at the same scope of hard riding. Installation, setup, adjustability and serviceability of the Fox are all excellent. It’s easy to fit, simple to setup and adjust to your liking and quite easy to service. But the Öhlins was just that bit easier to set up with its psi-controlled ramp chamber rather than having to go inside the fork and change spacers.

Serviceability is also that bit simpler on the Öhlins, depending on what you want to do. The lower legs are removed without the need for a hammer and the stand-alone spring and damping units make changing travel or swapping out to a differently setup damper a simple procedure. This is also easy to do on the Fox too (especially the RC2), though. Full air spring service is slightly harder on the Öhlins, but this is something they recommend getting done by a service centre.

Out on the trail the performance of the two is also close, but again it was the Öhlins that nudged marginally ahead in compression, rebound and composure. All marginal gains, but when you add them all together for an overall performance feel it’s like someone has turned the volume level down a couple more notches on the RXF36 than the 36. You’re still going the same speed, taking the same risks, but the experience is more controlled, more tactile and overall calmer. So, you then increase the volume level with higher speeds and bigger pulls.

For the weight weenies and keyboard engineers there’s a weight difference of 72g. Weight is an important factor in bikes, but there are far more perceivable factors in a suspension fork than 72g.




Pros

+ Outstanding performance, up there as the best.
+ Usable and noticeable range of adjustments.
+ Ramp up chamber feature is effective and useful

Cons

- More expensive than the competition.




Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesLot’s of talk about the “zone” makes it sound like it’s all to do with the rider. Not as much consideration seems to be given to the other products in the chain between the rider and the ground. A product that quietly goes about doing its job so well that it just leaves you to ride, nothing else, should be recognized as one of the keys to entering this “zone”. One of these products is the RXF36 m.2. The RXF36 elevated my riding experiences, had my back in all situations, terrains, riding moods and provided an inspirational whisper in my ear to go faster and ride harder. Dan Roberts









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179 Comments
  • 137 26
 How can a review be taken seriously if there's no direct comparison to Fox Grip2 or Lyrik forks? It's not like they came out yesterday. Instead comparing it to 5 year old RC2.
  • 66 6
 At least he's comparing it to something with back-to-back tests and giving an impression of the differences in a way that makes sense and isn't full of hyperbole.
  • 14 4
 @seb-stott: But if he has the Grip 2 already why not compare it to that?
  • 38 28
 @msusic, I understand where you are coming from with this but at the same time I personally always compare forks to my old Vanilla 36RC2 from 2011... it takes an exceptional set of senses as well as knowledge to be able to tell Grip2 from 2015 RC2 in a blind test. Which cannot be said about 2016 Lyrik vs latest Lyrik Ultimate, because I wouldn’t be able to tell 2016 Yari RC from Lyrik RCT3 in a blind test. You would also tell difference between this Öhlins and first RXF36 since it was quite bad.

What I am trying to say is, coincidentally comparison made in this review is a valid one. It’s possibly best review of a mtb fork that I have ever read and I feel like I would love to buy it. Only thing that would stop me is that I don’t know if it is possible to change travel to 180.
  • 33 9
 @WAKIdesigns:
LoL
Maybe its time to stop the keyboard and improve on the bike
  • 17 0
 @glen-allaire: don't assume he's talking about comparing their ride quality rather than the way they smell.
  • 11 0
 @BenPea: so just spray your old RST elastomer with some Maxima SC-1 and call it good.
  • 6 0
 @ReformedRoadie: Stop it, I'm getting misty eyed about my old Mozo.
Btw, I've a friend whose old Pike is full of olive oil. Seems like the way to go.
  • 6 1
 @WAKIdesigns: I went from RC2 to Grip2 and I can tell you that was very percievable. The fork went from "ok" to "finally someone as good as my old Bos". I was surprised the difference would be so big, I didn’t have much hope in fact. Now the sample size is small so how to determine your Grip2 or my RC2 weren’t as good as they should have been we will never know.
  • 5 1
 @EnduroManiac:

Totally agree, the RC2 was overdampened imo, grip 2 is much more comfortable but still good control and adjustment range. Greatest performance gain came from the high speed rwbound adjustment for me... The bos devile was the best fork I had owned in terms of performance until I got the grip2.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: But the Yari without Debonair dives like crazy and if you ride it with pressure its harsh over braking bumps. Are the charger Lyriks really that bad?
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns:
Their website list the air for as "Air: travel 150-180 mm"
  • 1 0
 @auzb: serious question. I have a 2015 36 RC2. Would the over damping be alleviated by switching to a lighter damping fluid? Either MAxima Plush 3 wt, or a light Redline fluid?

The only thing I have done aside from stay on top of regular bath oil changes is replace the air piston that has better tolerances and increases neg volume.
  • 2 0
 @ReformedRoadie: oil viscosity has little to no effect on high speed circuits if they are regulated by shim stack, so no, most likely not in this case.
  • 1 5
flag leon-forfar (Nov 1, 2019 at 13:29) (Below Threshold)
 @msusic I agree. He also did the review on the rear TTX shock a while back and compared it to a DPX2... Front and rear Ohlins, compared to a shock that is not even in the same category, and comparing the fork to an older, and since replaced benchmark is not up to PB standard. This review should have been withheld until Dan could get adequate time on a Grip2 36, and the same goes for the rear shock review a few months back. It's a shame, because the reviewer here has a lot of knowledge, and does a great job explaining the ins and outs of the fork (and shock). But the comparison to the current benchmarks (Grip2 and DHX2) is what we are all wanting to know more about, and at the end of the day, all that most people really care about.
  • 3 0
 @ReformedRoadie: I got an Andreani piston upgrade and have never looked back transformed my rc2 from average to perfect.
  • 4 0
 @auzb:

Then it would be interesting to to read a review and comparison of a new Deville 35 :-)
A user says, it is in every aspect a level above the deville 34.

So now, fork shoot out

Grip 2
Lyrik ultimate
Mezzer pro (the working one from all the other bike magazines ^^)
Rxf 36m2
Deville 35
Onyx
  • 5 0
 @bansaiman: If Bos is in the discussion there should be customer service responsiveness shootout as well.
  • 1 0
 @Hill-Seeker: I serviced my fork myself. Obviously only for routine service as I never experienced any issue with it.
  • 3 6
 @tabletop84: I meant 2016 Yari to 20-6 Lyrik RCT3. Neither had Debonair. I also changed 2007 Lyrik MoCo DH to 2016 Lyrik RCT3 and sorry but increase in performance was minimal if any. Meanwhile people were jerking off to Pike, telling fisherman stories about how great it works with how many tokens. Which was pure bollocks. It was evidently behind Fox 36 and a bit behind Mattoc.

I haven’t tried RC2 2017 but I owned 2011, then rode 2014-2016 RC2 and they were great. Rode Grip2 not so long ago but didn’t notice any huge improvement over previous Foxes. I always used Fox eith a bit more SAG and a bit more damping. My Lyrik RCT3 was so whatever I always settled for less sag and less compression. The only thing RS does well is big hits, when you go balls out on big compressions. But medium speeds and grip in general is where Fox always shone.
  • 7 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Doesn't sound like you know how to setup a fork properly.
  • 2 1
 @makripper: well you have to trust me on that one. What made you think so?
  • 2 2
 @makripper: huh, what makes you think so?
  • 1 2
 I guess they just can't say a anything is better than the current Gen fox. If it's good, it must be compared to the old one!
  • 2 0
 Had to sell the Fox and Lyrik to buy the Ohlins
  • 1 2
 @makripper: WACKOFFdesigns is a commuter so he sets his bike up to properly ride the shoulder of roads.
  • 2 0
 @bansaiman: Selva! ...not to forget
  • 1 2
 @Werratte: I rode the Formula DH fork for 4 DH runs and I wouldn’t write poems about it. I would personally opt for Boxxer Ultimate or Fox40. Then try to find service parts for Formula as easily as for RS/Fox.
  • 3 0
 This review is making me do my “o” face
  • 1 1
 And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?

An Öhlins RXF36 M2 Trail Fork!

You’ll shoot your eye out, kid.
  • 1 0
 Next Review: Music quality and ease of use of my Iphone 11 versus my 2008 Ipod shuffle...stay tuned.
  • 1 0
 The guys at Mojo Rising / GeoMetron prefer to use the RC2 for the Morc 36 conversion. They said the new Fox dampers are not as good and it’s a question of tuning properly. I would love to see how the triple clamp Fox 36’s compare. I have this fork and can say that it’s amazing, but I can only compare to the forks of other friends.
  • 32 8
 Sorry, won’t buy ohlins again after being burnt twice.
RFX coil fork was crap and failed
STX air shock was crap and failed
  • 1 0
 Which problems did you have with the coil?
  • 6 1
 @markus-a:
The damper shat its self. New damper.
  • 6 3
 Yeah my buddies who have ridden them have had issues that suspension that expensive should never experience. But maybe they're getting better; I won't know because I know I can trust my fox shock and RS fork.
  • 4 3
 @jwestenhoff: I agree. Ive always wanted to try Ohlins, but you cant beat the reputation of Fox. Its just proven its worth over time.
  • 10 1
 @Shafferd912: Except for year after year after year of creaky crowns....I went DVO and haven't looked back. This Ohlins stuff looks promising...
  • 6 1
 @Shafferd912: Not sure I would agree with that. Last 2 new bikes I got had Fox rear shox that had issues out of the box. Getting a brand new bike and having to wait for a BRAND NEW shock to get serviced is proper BS. Ive had better luck their forks but know more than a couple people that have had creaky crown/steerer issues. Also, poor experience with their CS team as they are clearly overloaded (not the fault of the CS people but rather management).
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flag Shafferd912 (Nov 1, 2019 at 9:51) (Below Threshold)
 @ckcost: You may have set up your fork so that the crown is under too much stress. Ive had problems with Fox rear shocks as well, but I am mainly talking about forks. My Factory 36 is absolutely amazing. (Ive tried the Lyrik, the Yari, and DVO)
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flag Shafferd912 (Nov 1, 2019 at 9:53) (Below Threshold)
 @Marky771: Yes, but does creaky crowns affect performance at all? Is the fork not working if its making some noise? I've tried DVO, and IDK, I would use their DH fork, but nothing else.
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flag onemanarmy FL (Nov 1, 2019 at 10:21) (Below Threshold)
 @Shafferd912: People get really caught up on it but that's a good point. Reality is... my bike makes all sorts of noises but it's maintained well and performs flawlessly.
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flag Shafferd912 (Nov 1, 2019 at 10:55) (Below Threshold)
 @onemanarmy: Exactly! If your bike isn't creaking somewhere, you aint using it right.
  • 3 2
 Yep I blew out three stx air shocks in a year. Ohlins wouldn't warranty them so they were replaced through Specialized warranty program. After the third specialized just sent me a Float X2 and we never looked back. I will say that the ttx coil on my DH bike is super nice though!
  • 3 0
 @Trudeez: Lol. Thats awesome. Ohlin's DH stuff seems more refined....
  • 1 0
 @Trudeez:

Yea the TTX I had worked well. Nothing wrong with it except the fact the EXT Storia and Push is way way better!
  • 6 0
 @Shafferd912: ridiculous. Can’t get why a massive company like Fox can’t get the creaky crown issue sorted on what’s supposed to be the best fork out there. IMHO the DVO Diamond feels noticeably better then the last Fox 36 Grip 2 I tried, and it’s creak free ride after ride. Different strokes for different folks. I’m glad to see smaller suspension brands catching up to the big boys. All the Fox and RS everywhere is getting boring.
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 @Shafferd912: Hum. In 20+ years of riding bikes Ive never heard of a way to "set up your fork so that the crown is under too much stress". Please do explain. You think that blew out my rear shock too before even riding them? Im not saying my 36 doesn't perform well, just that my experiences with their products reliability and more importantly their customer service has not been that great recently.
  • 2 0
 Mines good for 2019 but heard older versions of rfx 36 had problems
  • 1 2
 @ckcost: well, honestly, the only way you can do that is running the fork basically stiff, and then abusing it.
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 @Marky771: yup. Creaky af. Everyone thinks fox shit doesn’t stink.
  • 26 8
 Great review and I echo all the comments.

Having run one of the coil versions of this fork for a few months, I honestly cant see another fork being better and that's coming off of a 36 Grip2 and having a Lyrik Ultimate on another bike.

Let the haters hate and start complaining about the issues with the previous forks (something that impacted me too) but its highly doubtful that SRAM or Fox would have put out a voluntary recall in the event of an issue as Ohlins did - Case in point Grip 2 dampers having more than double the number of adjustment indents that they should being advised as a feature - Yeah cheers Fox!

Awesome work Ohlins, now at the top of the game and a real challenger to the other guys!
  • 2 2
 Old ones have serious problems thats a truth but looks like öhlins figured out them all
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: I learned my lesson about riding, boutique/lesser known forks, knocked the damper knob off an X-fusion fork, stopped in every bike shop across BC, Washington, Oregon, Utah looking for parts nothing.
They all said the same RS or Fox NP.
Damper oil lasted pretty good though made it home knocking pretty hard at the end.
  • 4 0
 @lake-st: X-fusion hasn't had a US distributor since 2016, it makes sense that no shop anywhere will have parts because its just impossible to get them reasonably.
  • 1 0
 @lake-st: İ used a x fusion metric at the time and you are 100% true about that the fork has a top clunk problem and i just cant find any part or if i can they are toooo expensive. Sold it and bought a lyrik
  • 4 8
flag onemanarmy FL (Nov 1, 2019 at 9:03) (Below Threshold)
 Honestly.... you think that recall was voluntary? So every recall that car manufacturers put out are voluntary?

Dude you're so naive it's comical.

That was an.... oh crap we found an issue. Lets get that handled now while we fix any new product going out. Catch it before more hit the market and before it becomes a legal and media issue. It's a good spin on a bad problem. Companies do it ALL the time and both companies you are talking about would do the exact same thing in the same situation.

You knock on FOX and SRAM is wrong there and your other knock on FOX is that the Grip2 has more range of adjustment? Did you not read the review? Öhlins has less clicks but it's got air chamber adjustments that are PSI dependent... and what's wrong with more clicks? Want less.... save money and get a GRIP damper. That thing works great and it's easy as hell to use.

This comment is almost as much comedy as the review.
  • 13 1
 There was an RS recall this year regarding the Lyrik fork potentially failing, and it was recalled before literally anyone suffered from the failure. Feel free to love the product, but don't lie about the competition to make it sound better.
  • 3 6
 @sherbet: Equally, feel free to bring things to people's attention that they weren't aware of, but dont feel you havev the right to call someone a liar for not knowing something you do.

Have a nice day
  • 3 3
 Don't make claims like that when you don't know better. You either lied or were talking on a topic you were ignorant on, and that isn't a mite bit better. I have every "right" to call you a liar when, as far as facts add up, you're lying.

Probably the shittiest way I've seen anyone on this website fess up that they were wrong.
  • 3 4
 @sherbet: thanks for your valid and appreciated input, my rebuttal is to simply say that my information missed the single point you raised, but was gleaned from conversations with multiple suspension specialists in the UK and their experience in the industry, so your view on my being a liar due to ignorance is unwarranted, or at very least a narrow minded opinion.

You may disagree, but that's your view and you are welcome to voice that. I'm not 'fessing' up to being wrong, I'm accepting that I dont have all the information from all sides, but then neither do you, so suck it up and accept that you are full of it and only seem to have single fact to back it up.

I'll reiterate my prior close - have a nice day.
  • 4 0
 @Noeserd: Öhlins only had problems with the first RXF 36 air fork , but the RXF 36 coil ( 1st version) and newer RXF coil and air EVO forks do not have this issue with the top air cap not having loctite on.
I Have a RXF 36 EVO coil set at 165mm travel , it’s the best fork I’ve ever ridden , and that’s coming from riding a lyrik for 2 years with debonair upgrade , would never buy an air fork again , I like it so much I now have changed to a coil shock as well.
  • 2 0
 Some users say the same about the mezzer (in comparison to a grip 2) which had a bad start at pinkbike. Mine works great and i would really be interested to see how those 2 compare as the two forks have a similar air spring. Besides the diameters of the air pistons resulting in other working pressures.
  • 2 9
flag sherbet (Nov 1, 2019 at 20:58) (Below Threshold)
 @rjwspeedjunkie: I have enough information to show that you're either ignorant or a liar. How you're taking this as a soapbox to talk down on someone is pretty amazing.

Cheers. Have a great day. Happy holidays. Blah blah blah blah.
  • 2 2
 @pedro46: öhlins joined the fork and shock game a bit too late. starting from a scratch is not that easy probably but every updated product they made gets better and better
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: 1984 is too late?
  • 1 0
 @onemanarmy: well, mountain bike industry*
  • 2 1
 @Noeserd: dude, they've manufactured mx/moto suspension since the 80's
  • 1 0
 @dazeccles: have you seen the last reply i did ?
  • 22 1
 Is it only me who felt slightly disturbed every time "creamy support" was mentioned?
  • 17 0
 "...a bit of knob tweaking was needed to find the sweet spot."

There usually is.
  • 18 3
 Ohlins has a fair way to go with serviceability & customer service in general. CS with the dealer here has been absolutely awful, worst I have experienced with any mtb product. Until they can get service manuals online & some sort of parts distribution sorted I will be looking elsewhere. Even warranty terms are ambiguous and almost impossible to find on any of their websites or in user manuals. Sorry ohlins, your products may be nice but ownership hasnt been.
  • 23 1
 No fully user serviceable fork - no sale.
  • 14 2
 Good luck with support in the states! The RXF 36 I had became unrideable and it sat in North Carolina for months. The worst service/support I have ever had! Not only was the fork poorly assembled there is no documentation for it either. I’ll never buy another Öhlins product !
  • 6 6
 That’s pretty funny, because the Fox and Rock Shox Support is just downright awful. They’re absolutely useless and unwilling to help, instead referring you to your LBS every time, while Ohlins actually answers the phone.

But, what would I know with my Ohlins experience on my MTB, dirt bike, and motorcycle.
  • 7 2
 @nicktee89: Thats the point of a LBS. Ohlins wont even let bikes shops do a lowers service, not even their trusted specialized dealers & stores (Ohlins mtb distributor & service centre here is spesh).

Rockshox have detailed service manuals online & parts are easy to get, what more could you ask for?
As for ohlins with motorbikes, they have been doing it for a while so clearly must have their sh*t sorted in that area.
  • 3 2
 @nicktee89:

Thats funny, because Fox helps me whenever i call; They have great library of service instructions, compatibility, changes by years, parts numbers, and specifications.
  • 1 0
 @zyoungson: weird. They sent me new lowers in 3 days when I gave them the serial number on my fork. Also said they will update it to Evo for the cost of a service Lower service. $100. I’m not saying it’s a good fork, will have to update when I swap lowers.
  • 2 1
 Same goes here. I have a RXF that I have not seen in months with repairs being rejected by the LBS. if it wasn’t for a loaner fork from the LBS I would have missed half the summer or had to buy another fork. The rear TTX has had to be rebuilt twice as well. Due to non existent warranty and terrible service Ohlins will not find a home on any future bike I own. Sad thing is that is awesome when it works.
  • 2 1
 @nicktee89: I had to replace a part on my 36 grip two a few days before a bike trip, called fox told em what was going on and they overnighted the new part at no charge and provided a return label for the old part. Their customer service was great! Knowing what you are talking about and being polite goes a long way with customer service.
  • 12 3
 The stx 22 was crap. Had to send it several times to my local service center. Even tough I have the skills to service a damper at home there were no service kits availible for end users. So I am happy to be back on a bike with Rock Shock suspension. Spare parts with next day delivery and tutorials on youtube and sram homepage.
  • 13 1
 Test the coil version. Thanks.
  • 5 1
 Seconded.
  • 4 0
 It is actually nice that it is a cartridge spring so that after coil, you can still go back to air if you want. You can't really do that with outer brand forks.
  • 9 4
 Coil is better on performance side, weight penalty in AM -DH segments is negligible, the only issue is that it is more expensive since you need to experiment with how hard springs you need to run. The industry standard of 4-5-step spring rate gradation is a joke. Xsoft, Soft, Medium, Firm, X Firm just doesn’t cut it. That’s like having rear shock springs in 300-400-500-600 options only, while in reality these days we have springs available in 25lbs increments.
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Regarding the weight penalty. The coil version I have is 175gr heavier than the Grip2 I had. Both 29", same steerer lenght and as I am 95Kg I use the second heavier spring...
And yes, this new Ohlins (coil) is better than the Grip2
  • 4 0
 If you are considering the coil version, just go for it! You won’t regret it...it’s really good and surprisingly light too.
  • 4 0
 If Öhlins was smart they would have had him on that fork all along. It's their true differentiating product from the competition.
  • 1 3
 @WAKIdesigns: I'm sure companies would love to have finer increments. But that's very expensive to build, warehouse and store. Not to mention... how big of a decal do you want on your fork leg?

You can make more minute adjustments on the fork side with oil and air pressure. 50lb increments would be awesome but 4 springs is plenty.... and I'm on the big end of the X-Firm.

Reality is that even shocks run out of options for some folks on some bikes. I can't run a coil on some linkage designs because I'd need like an 800-900 pounds spring and that's just stupid.

Coil fork market is small. And the springs are generally unique to the system. Part of the reason those forks went away is because companies and bike shops can't deal with all the damned springs. Bike shops had to deal with so many freaking springs sitting around and it's expensive for companies to toss multiple options in the box, and the performance isn't that much better. Etc. etc etc.

X-soft is just stupid by the way. Should never describe something as extra soft unless it's a pillow.
  • 3 0
 @onemanarmy: You've got that right. So many people seem to drag the weight argument into this but it was never any issue. I've never heard someone complain about a fork being slightly heavier than the other one. But I've talked to a product manager who pulled their cheapest coil sprung fork from the line up and he said he simply couldn't sell the coil spring forks for what they're worth. Coil is just really expensive to make and as such makes for an expensive stock. Different spring rates and then multiplied with the different travel options you have. And then this diameter stanchion goes out of fashion because everyone really needs 2mm thicker and need a whole new set of springs. And still keep offering the old ones too because you need to keep supporting your existing customers...

It is just a premium product and not every brand can operate in that market. Especially if you still need it to be progressive near the end of travel. This is easy/inherent on air sprung forks. It takes a whole lot more effort on a coil sprung fork.

Ideally I'd like to see more coil sprung forks with parallel air assist for fine tuning, like my old Marzocchi DJ fork. People will probably complain because you can't scale the same spring curve for different rider weights, but I do believe you can relatively easy and affordably make something that is good enough for most riders.
  • 4 0
 The idea of having a separate sealed air cartridge is pretty rad. Love the idea of being able to try a coil option for a bit then decide, nah, I like air better without buying a whole new fork.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: this is why aftermarket conversions exist. And they do work good. (push and vorspsrung).
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: Yeah of course that makes for a great backup and/or upgrade, but you can't rely on that as a fork manufacturer for after sales support. To make yourself dependent on a third party. Even though both brands (and there are more of them) have a great reputation, brands hate to make a product performance and reliability dependent on a third party component manufacturer which they don't have full control over. And especially when it comes to honoring warranty when something goes wrong. Sure fork manufacturers don't necessarily produce everything in house, but all that goes in their product still goes through their own QC.
  • 6 0
 There was a company called Speed Springs owned by Paul Iddon IIRC - I think his son is a World Superbike rider now with BMW. They sold twin spring kits for Judy forks for £40 about 20 years ago. The coil conversions available now are too expensive because they have the air bottom out assist thing. Personally, I don;t think it's necessary. If you bottom out sometimes so what? It means you're using all the travel. Danny Hart uses a straight coil fork with no fancy bottom out resistance right?

The old Marzocchi forks didn't have it either - you could tune the progression by altering the oil height. Of course, MTB people didn't like adding 100g to the weight of the fork. I guess the evidence suggests most people prefer 10cc of lubrication oil and a service every two months to 160cc of oil and a service at some point between next year and never if it means saving a bit of weight. Weight is more important than performance apparently, but I just watched the GMBN episode with Sam Hill's new bike and it's something like 15.5kg!
I also had a DJ2 fork with the air assist which was pretty rude. They had the 350 ti with the coffee coloured stanchions that I really wanted a few years back, too.
Clearly, there are other ways of doing it but companies have to sell forks. It's a shame there isn't more variation in the market.
  • 1 0
 @Ntinos: agreed!
  • 8 0
 "Öhlins use a pinch bolt system on their axle. ... allowing the tolerances of your hub to define where the fork legs sit can introduce unwanted friction by having the uppers compress into the lower legs at an angle rather than directly and smoothly straight up and down. There’s a lot of talk about fancy seals lately, which the Öhlins fork does have, but this small detail goes a long way to ensuring low friction in the system."

This type of system needs to be everywhere. No one gets to say they improved seal or bushing stiction until they have a hub-width independent axle system [this fork, Fox 40/49, some Fox 36, anyone else?], because fancy seals don't mean shit if the legs are pinched.
  • 1 2
 I think this is actually wrong.... If your hub is a little bit narrow you have to pinch lower legs with QR through axle or this pinch bolt system. If you wont do it you will have play in your front wheel. The main reason for pinch bolt axle system is that its stronger connection than QR through axle.
  • 6 0
 @lefty16: you don't know how the pinch-bolt systems work then. The hub is clamped securely by the axle (there is a step in the axle) to one fork leg, then the other leg is clamped securely to the axle (this leg floats on the axle before the pinch bolt is snugged). There may be a gap between one leg and the hub, but the hub is always secure, with no play.
  • 7 0
 Awesome review I’ve always wanted to try different forks and I’ve always leaned towards RS or Fox until I went DVO and now DVO has impressed me with customer service and reliability it’s gonna be hard for me to try another manufacturer
  • 6 0
 Looks like a really close competitor to manitou mezzer.

-3 chambered air spring
-shim based hsc/lsc/lsr with a light tune and a bladder
-readily available aftersales damper tunes
-companies with imperfect build quality in recent memory
-unusual but potentially superior thru axles
  • 2 0
 Integrated fender mounts and no lockout lever, too. hahah there any differences?
  • 7 0
 I have the coil version and it’s great! Very impressed with it...my other fork for comparison is also a Fox RC2 Evol...Ohlins is better.
  • 3 4
 How much did that badboy set you back?
  • 2 1
 I have a RFX36 coil too, it's well up for big hits and a big improvement to the Rockshox Lyrik RCT3's I had before. Useable damping and no adjusters whacked to max/min. Did have to take it back to the shop as oil was leaking past the seals - Blown damper??? :0 - nope, just hadn't been bled right at the factory, sorted under warranty. Rode for 100+ hours over six months, put in for service/evo upgrade, fork is even better now (there was slight play in the bushings - no worse than my lyrik with similar hours). I suspect that a lot of the issues with their shocks/forks was down to them over committing to the OEM order for specialized and not having their QA dialled for those kind of quantities. I have one issue with the fork and that's the axle interface is a bit shit compared to fox/rockshox, you have to preload the forklegs by hand and then nip up the clamp (I've noticed play in the front wheel and had to stop mid ride and tighten it up again.) My forks and also ttx coil came stock on a specialized enduro and the whole package is buit to take it!
  • 1 0
 @jaame: like I tell my missus...unless you want to pay for it, don’t ask! Lol...the price is comparable to the top Fox or RS. I am very impressed with the fork and how good it is in every aspect. Lighter than expected for a coil fork, buttery smooth, really great small bump sensitivity, loads of traction and support mid stroke...the best I can say about it is that you fit and forget about it and even when you get out-of-shape, you never feel it’s the fork’s fault...if you know what I mean. I’m running it on my HT so it works hard!
  • 3 0
 @gbcarmona: I guess as long as you are swapping a black/black fork for another black/black, she won’t even notice
  • 2 0
 @jaame: funny enough, she did notice and said the yellow stickers on the sides make it look really cheap!? “Yeah love, it’s a cheap fork!?” Lol
  • 1 0
 @jaame: On that note, why are most stanchions black these days? Having returned to mountain biking relatively recently I can't understand why Titanium nitride stanchions aren't still common. Much sexier in my opinion. Is it simply fashion, or a performance advantage.
  • 3 0
 @Zitch: Fashion. Black matches color schemes better. "Grey" titanium nitride is now seen by most consumers as a cheaper fork.
  • 2 0
 @Zitch: I think black looks better, but according to some people the kashima gold and the super shiny tinit coatings don't hold oil as well as a surface treatment that is more porous at the molecular level. Too shiny and it dries out quicker - apparently.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: Ok...I disappeared down a wormhole and found this article interesting, the info in the comments in particular.

www.imtbtrails.com/forum/threads/tech-talk-kashima-coat.1492
  • 1 0
 @Zitch: very interesting. I’d gone off the gold but maybe I should get back on to it.
  • 5 0
 I absolutely love my rfx 36. I have the 2018 model with upgraded damper and air spring. Buttery smooth with no friction. I can really dial in the feel with the air bottom out chamber. I prefer it over my boxxer world cup.
  • 6 0
 They don't cost enough, I need something more expensive to brag about in the car park.
  • 4 0
 Can I buy one at Ikea?
  • 1 0
 Just get a Trust Performance fork of Intend USD fork then. And dont forget your Enve wheels!
  • 4 0
 I bought my RXF 36 coil evo from J-Tech in the UK , fully set up for my bike weight and riding style ,once it was fitted have not even needed to dial it in , it was £750 and it came as a 165mm.
Superb service from James at J-tech!
  • 2 3
 @pedro46:

The RRP on this article is 1189EUR which in todays money is > £1000. So you got a decent deal.
That said £750 would buy you a decent BMX which would improve your riding more than whatever space-age-zzz-damper-system these (or any other) forks have.
My bike cost just over 2K and came with Fox performance bits, there's no way I'd spend nearly half that again on something I'd have to tell myself was better to justify the cost.
My point is (and it's just out of my arse opinion) that unless we are looking for those last 10ths of a second in race performance which mean the difference between a podium or not we're being mugged, the upgrade isn't justifiable other than a very expensive feel-better piece of bling (eg. Kashima ffs).
Did you get more KOMs since fitting them? Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @Steventux: I've just bought the exact same forks from James at J-Tech.

I did consider a new bike. But I want to keep the upgrades that I've made to my current bike over the years. Therefore the next upgrade will be a coil shock and then it'll be a new frame.

Unless (until) standards change massively, I don't expect to buy a complete bike for quite some time. So £750 is a reasonable amount to spend IMO ????
  • 1 0
 @eyestwice: Give me £750 and I'll stand by the trails telling you how fast you are.
  • 1 0
 @Steventux: Well that missed the point entirely.
  • 1 0
 @eyestwice: Yeah I'm being a dick, I agree it's horses for courses, some folks stick with the same bike and upgrade, others (like me) buy a low-to-medium priced bike and move it on every few years.
My particular prejudice comes from racing BMX as a kid. Sure cheap catalogue bikes failed on the racetrack but mid-priced bikes were as good on track as the high end stuff.
I saw kids with titanium frames and Profile Flite cranks getting their arse handed to them by a kid on a stock low end Mongoose or Diamond Back with one piece cranks and semi-worn tyres.
This has convinced me that I need to improve long before the bike does. If you're racing mountain bikes maybe upgraded suspension is gonna bag you a few seconds or tenths, IMO if I'm just riding for pleasure I couldn't justify spending 25-30% of the cost of a new bike on forks.
  • 1 0
 @Steventux: Yeah, I can appreciate that. As you say, horses for courses ????
  • 7 1
 Does everyone set up their fork so soft it bottoms out on tight fast berms?
  • 1 1
 No. Thats a terrible way to have your fork set up. What fork do you have?
  • 1 0
 @Shafferd912: Fox 36 RC2. I do not have it set up this way. Every berm shot posted in bike reviews (like above) show the fork bottoming out in the berm.
  • 1 0
 @Maestroman87: Ohhhhh, I see what you mean. Yeah, that's really strange.
  • 2 0
 @leon-forfar: good eye! wouldn't have noticed had you not mentioned it
  • 1 0
 Nothing to see here, it's called breaking bumps at the corner entrance.
  • 1 0
 @MikeGruhler: Breaking bumps should use less than 2-3 inches of travel......
  • 6 0
 I just want to know more about the Madonna!
  • 1 0
 Same here. When can we have a review?
  • 3 0
 Pinkbike has already reviewed it just google it. I have one and its awesome.
  • 1 0
 @sir-hc: Thank you.
  • 1 0
 @ddmonkey: What offset fork are you running? Raaw specs it with a 51 but the PB review and this one both rode it with a 44, although I'm guessing the fox 36 rc2 this author was running before was a 51.
  • 2 0
 @phalley: I'm running an XL frame with 170mm travel from the DPX2 air shock, and yes a 180mm travel Lyrik with reduced 44mm offset. A 30mm reach stem and 800mm wide / 30mm rise bars. I find it a very nice set up, I can still wheelie / manual it fine (for me) despite its size and it feels agile on the trail but very stable and confidence inspiring too. The pedaling position when seated is very comfy and feels pretty efficient for winching up. I am just under 6' tall but with long arms. Its a lot of bike if you only ride mellower trails for sure but most of the time I am riding DH tracks with a bit of pedaling too. I would have no hesitation going on longer pedally rides with it but not had time yet. I can't fault it so far! High quality frame for sure too so should last.
  • 1 0
 It looks sweet. Very similar to the Privateer 161. The raaw looks nicer, but it’s twice the price.
  • 4 0
 I have the rfx 36 Evo and a ttx air on my Commencal meta 4.2 and have had no issues. Also customer service with the dealer has been amazing. No complaints
  • 1 0
 Do you feel like the shock matches how linear the linkage is? I have a 4.2, and am looking for the right rear shock to run.
  • 2 0
 @Shafferd912: yeah I think so, I had a the rockshox deluxe on when I got the bike. The ohlins is a lot more adjustable. Back wheel hugs the ground now and with two volume spacers I have no issues with bottoming out
  • 2 0
 @Erku: Oh wow. Sounds like the perfect air shock! Currently experimenting with a DHX2 Coil.
  • 1 0
 The guys at Mojo Rising / GeoMetron prefer to use the RC2 for the Morc 36 conversion. They said the new Fox dampers are not as good and it’s a question of tuning properly. I would love to see how the trip clamp Fox 36’s compare. I have this fork and can say that it’s amazing, but I can only compare to the forks of other friends.
  • 2 0
 Interesting that the coil comes in 20mm shorter travel than the air. I'd have thought they'd have wanted to offer a 130 or 140mm air option for all the rowdy short travel trail bikes that have been released lately.
  • 4 0
 why can't they make these in the colors that match the moto forks?
  • 5 0
 i asked myself this exact question.... haha in the end i had mine painted gold !
  • 3 0
 "with two tubes housed inside each other"

Isn't that how Tony Stark solved time travel?
  • 2 0
 @leon-forfar: I believe Tony's was a triple-tube setup if I'm not mistaken.
  • 5 5
 So an Ohlins fan boy likes the fork.... barely more than FOX's old fork... that's way cheaper? If you're comparing dollar to dollar based on the brand new Grip2 fork it's still more expensive. But you can get the RC2 versions for substantially cheaper than the Öhlins.... and it's as good.

Basically just ready a huge marketing campaign for Öhlins that actually ended up speaking pretty well for the competition.

Essentially this is the exotic car of the bike market.... that's what you said right? You can pay more and get the shiny bits but someone who bought a corvette will just crush you on the track...
  • 1 1
 im still trying to get update work done for my RXF air fork recall. The service center says i need to send off my fork for a service then afterwards i am eligible to receive the upgrade voucher to get the upgrade done....Why cant the upgrade be done at the same time as my service? Any answers Ohlins?........
  • 4 0
 You register here: www.ohlins.com/mtb-voucher-registration, get a pdf voucher, ask your service centre to order in the bits and then take your forks in - simple. I was €70 for the service, everything else included.
  • 3 0
 Maybe it's who you are dealing with. I sent my fork in for a new csu, due to the steer tube being to short to install on another bike and they did the Evo upgrade while it was there. I didn't even know about it untill I picked it up
  • 1 0
 Hi,



Can someone please tell me the inner and outer diameter and the length of the rxf 36 coil spring in cm?

Need it for a project for another fork and need the measurements urgently.

Thanks in advance
  • 2 1
 I think I am starting to miss the simple era of mountain biking, like my girvin flex stem. 3 settings. Soft , medium & hard....choose one, then just ride
  • 6 1
 There is such a thing as a single speed hardtail, if you are in to that?
  • 2 1
 @zyoungson: RIGID single speed hardtail.
  • 3 1
 so you like going slow.
  • 2 0
 @OriginalDonk: HIGHPOSTING rigid single speed hardtail
  • 2 0
 Are your setting suggestions from fully closed(all the way clockwise) ? Seems like the HSC is not?
  • 1 1
 If we're only comparing it to the RC2 then I would hope it feels amazing! Would really love to try Ohlins suspension - there's just something about those gold bits.
  • 2 0
 So can that cartridge be put in 1st gen rxf.
  • 2 0
 I'm seeing this as justification to buy a Runt.
  • 2 0
 Lol. I live in the same town as Diaz. He's a cool dude.
  • 1 3
 Now owned by the same company that purchased and sold off Marzocchi for spare parts... doesn't anyone have a comment on where the future development and support is going to look like when we already have a clear picture of what it looks like based on their last acquisition?
  • 5 0
 what are you trying to say? you think ohlins is all the sudden going to disappear? LOL! they are a massive suspension company that is at the top of almost every motorsport. Marzocchi had been struggling for almost a decade its no surprise they got sold. honestly them selling marz to fox was the best possible thing that cold have happened.
  • 2 0
 I'll wait for the 38mm to come out...
  • 1 0
 i betcha new school mechanics would NOT even have that tool in their kit. freewheel anybody, who even does that
  • 1 0
 Yeaaa...that's great and all...but does it go squish?
  • 1 0
 What frame are the forks mounted to? Looks sweet
  • 3 0
 RAAW Madonna
  • 4 3
 Ohlins still exists?
  • 2 4
 "The stand-alone air spring unit can be whipped out easily and in no time."
Well, the old one could be fired out the chassis while riding. I'm out.
  • 3 4
 Congrats Öhlins! Knew you had it in you.
  • 1 1
 Looks like a gambler
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