Review: Orbea Oiz TR - The XC Racer's Trail Bike

Jan 16, 2020
by Daniel Sapp  

Orbea bill the Oiz as a versatile XC bike, and they use the same frame for both the 100mm XC "Oiz" and 120mm-travel "Oiz TR" version reviewed here. This is done by using an internal volume spacer in the shock, a different piston and tuning, and then, of course, swapping forks. As a 100mm bike, the geometry and spec of the Oiz are aimed at the lycra crowd who'll be doing some work between the tape, but the 120mm TR bike branches out a bit while still retaining its speedy roots.

Not surprisingly, all sizes of the Oiz come on 29" wheels, but Orbea gives you shorties the option of choosing either 27.5" or 29" on the size-small bike.

Orbea Oiz Details
• Intended use: XC race/marathon
• Wheel size: 29" (Small also offered in 27.5")
• Travel: 100mm, 120mm (tested)
• 12x148 hub spacing
• 1x specific
• Two water bottle mounts (sizes M-XL)
• Weight: 22.7 lbs / 10.3 kg
• Price: $2,599 - $8,299 USD + options ($8,587 M-LTD model, as tested)
The Oiz is available in five different build kit options, starting with an aluminum version that sells for $2,599 USD. Carbon models begin at $4,999 USD for the M10 kit, with a mix of SRAM GX and X01 Eagle for the drivetrain, Shimano XT brakes, and Mavic Crossmax Elite TL wheels.

The top of the line M-LTD TR build that's tested here features a SRAM XX1 Eagle drivetrain, Level Ultimate brakes, Mavic Crossmax Pro Carbon TL wheels, and a Race Face Affect dropper post. All bikes have a Fox Float Factory fork, a Fox DPS Factory EVOL shock (custom-tuned for the Oiz), and an FSA stem/handlebar combination. The TR edition with a longer travel Fox 34 120mm fork plus the different rear shock adds $159 to the build, and then a dropper post option adds $129. (Note: For 2020, the top of the line M-LTD TR build sells for the same $8,587 but comes with SRAM's AXS drivetrain)

bigquotesThe Oiz is a versatile XC/trail bike, but it is deeply rooted in the former. It's unfair to compare it to some of the more modern and more progressive 120mm trail bikes out there because the intentions aren't really the same. But for riders looking for comfort and efficiency, or a bike for classic and technical XC racing, the Oiz can meet that need.Daniel Sapp

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The Oiz can be had with either 100mm or 120mm of travel, with the former being a pure race rocket and the longer travel version TR better suited to big days in the saddle and more demanding terrain.

Construction and Features

The bike gets a PF92 bottom bracket and internal cable routing throughout. All models use Orbea's "Inside Line" internal cable routing, which provides a clean run from the handlebars to all of the things that need actuating. The 2020 edition of the Oiz comes with Orbea's 'Squidlock' 3-position lockout lever that integrates the lockout with the dropper post lever via one clamp to further clean up the cockpit.

The shock is driven by a lightweight carbon link, and the frame also has a small integrated chain guide. More water is more better on a bike like the Oiz that's meant to cover a lot of ground, so Orbea made sure that two bottles can be squeezed inside the bike's front triangle on every size bar the small. Short riders get a single bottle mount due to space constraints.

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A small integrated chain guide is effective in preventing dropped chains.
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A carbon link drives the shock on the Oiz.

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Cables are all internally routed.
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Small set screws keep cables in place and from rattling, making for a quiet bike.

Orbea's bikes can be customized using their 'MyO' program that lets customers choose from countless paint combinations and a handful of different components, which is exactly what I did with my Oiz test bike. I think it turned out pretty damn well, and I'm happy to help other riders pick their colors for a nominal consultation fee. It's a neat program, especially if you're ordering a high-end bike and want something that you won't likely see anyone else riding.

Riders can also choose their choice of travel (100mm or 120mm TR) during the MyO process, including bumping up to Fox's 34 Float Factory 120mm fork for the TR build. More cush or not, some riders may want to add a dropper post and change certain components in order to maximize their fun.

The previous iteration of the Oiz.
Photo Jeremie Reuiller
The current 120mm Oiz TR.

The Oiz shapeshifts with a small change of spec, changing the geometry and giving the bike more aptitude for technical terrain.

Geometry & Sizing

Orbea moved the Oiz to more modern geometry with their updates. On the 120mm TR version tested, the head tube angle is 68-degrees, and the seat tube angle is 74-degrees. Reach, on the size medium, is 425mm and chainstays sit at 435mm.

Riders opting for the racier 100mm Oiz will steepen angles on the seat tube and head tube by one degree and lengthen the reach by 10mm.

These numbers don't scream overly progressive compared to any modern trail or enduro bike but, for a bike with World Cup XC pedigree, they're very much in line.

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Suspension Design

The suspension kinematics features a low-sag design that has more anti-squat and a much more progressive shock tune than the previous Oiz. Orbea claims they found that some customers were putting too much pressure in the suspension in order to have better efficiency to the detriment of the suspension's performance - something we've seen in a number of higher pressure shock situations.

The higher leverage of the new suspension overcomes friction easier and is much more progressive, especially at the end of the shock stroke. Orbea claims, and I can validate, that a harsh bottom-out on the bike is difficult to achieve. The anti-squat of the bike has increased quite a bit from before. It was at 102%, and it's now 114% with a 34-tooth chainring.

Between the 100mm and 120mm suspension set-ups, there are some key differences in the shock to achieve the 20mm difference. The 120mm version uses a different piston, has a longer stroke via a spacer being removed, and is more linear than the 100mm shock - traits that are ideal for a longer travel application.

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The suspension can be locked out, but the cable routing for the lockout adds to a cluster of chaos on the handlebars.

Release Date 2019
Price $8299
Travel 120mm
Rear Shock Fox i-line DPS Factory
Fork Fox 34 Float SC Factory 120mm
Headset Acros Alloy Integrated
Cassette SRAM XX1 Eagle
Crankarms SRAM XX1
Chainguide Orbea
Bottom Bracket SRAM Dub
Pedals N/A
Rear Derailleur SRAM XX1 Eagle
Chain SRAM XX1 Eagle
Front Derailleur N/A
Shifter Pods SRAM XX1 Eagle
Handlebar FSA K-Force Flat 760mm
Stem FSA K-Force
Grips Orbea
Brakes SRAM Level Ultimate
Wheelset Mavic Crossmax Pro Carbon TL
Hubs Mavic
Spokes Mavic
Rim Mavic
Tires Maxxis Ardent Race 2.2" EXO / Maxxis Forekaster 2.25" EXO
Seat Selle Italia Kit Carbonio Superflow S
Seatpost Race Face Affect

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Test Bike Setup

I spent some time on both versions of the Oiz while in Spain earlier this year, so I already had a good idea of what the setup would be for my 120mm test bike. Rear suspension saw between 25 and 30-percent sag, with the former being my preference due to there being more support. I also changed a few components, including the 131mm wide Selle Italia SLR saddle that's likely too skinny for the majority of riders out there. I get it, some markets like the narrow, racy seats, but I'm not in the market to be destroying my undercarriage. The squared foam grips are light as hell, sure, but they're uncomfortable and also had to go.

All of the testing took place in Western North Carolina on rolling and mountainous XC trails that offer plenty of technical challenges. In other words, probably the ideal location for the 120mm-travel Oiz.

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Daniel Sapp
Location: Brevard, NC, USA
Age: 32
Height: 5'10"
Weight: 150 lbs
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A bike like the Oiz has to climb well, and it does an excellent job of exactly that while also maintaining traction in various situations. Two of the bike's six cables actuate the remote lockout for the suspension. While it should pedal well regardless of if it's locked out or not, that efficiency is paramount on a sporty bike like the Oiz, hence the extra lever. A lot of XC racers want a bike to be completely locked-out on certain climbs and be open on rough terrain, and the only way that can be achieved with complete accuracy is through the use of a pedaling platform.

The lockout on the Oiz is centered around a "push-to-unlock" system. This means that you push the long-throw lever to unlock the suspension, and you can just tap the short-throw lever to lock it again. This works well in a lot of situations, especially when you need to quickly firm things up as you roll into a climb during a race.

With the suspension open, the bike does feel as if it has a lot of anti-squat - an appropriate amount - and it sits up in its travel as you turn over the pedals. The pedaling position is comfortable, and with 120mm of travel and its low weight, the bike is easy to maneuver through tricky sections of trail.

Photo Jeremie Reuiller


The 120mm-travel Oiz TR is a competent descender, but make no mistake: It's just a semi-beefed up XC rig, not a bike that would fall into the "trail" category as a bike with 'TR' would lead one to believe. While it feels as if it is ready to handle most terrain, the spec seems to hold it back a little on the more technical trail sections to where it's not all that much better at 120mm than it is at 100mm. It's comfortable, sure, but it doesn't inspire riders to let 'er rip the way one may expect it to with the changes to travel and spec.

The suspension is active and supple, and there's always plenty of traction. Even on larger hits, I found the bike was difficult to bottom out, and the ramp-up of the suspension felt smooth and proper. It was fully capable of handling larger-than-average XC hits. It just doesn't possess an increase in confidence-inspiring handling traits I was hoping for compared to the 100mm Oiz XC or other bikes in the 120mm XC category. Additionally, the push-to-lock lever for the suspension can easily inadvertently be actuated, locking out the suspension - typically when descending. It's just not ideal.

Day-long rides in less demanding conditions are comfortable and smooth with 120mm of travel and riders looking for a more marathon-style XC bike that will take the edge off of rough, but not overly technical sections of trail will find the Oiz excels in those situations. Riders used to a classic top-level XC bike but who also want a little more travel will find the Oiz TR to be a good match.

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Orbea Oiz 120mm

Specialized Epic Evo

How does it compare?

Two shapeshifting XC bikes currently available are the Orbea Oiz and the Specialized Epic EVO. Both are built on a 100mm pedigree World Cup XC race platforms but feature a longer-travel, 120mm set-up. Price-wise, the Oiz takes the win, with the top-of-the-line, $8,299 build coming in significantly less than the closely comparable $9,920 S-Works Epic Evo. There are also more build and customization options with the Oiz, from parts spec to color, that riders have to choose from. Specialized only has the top tier S-Works bike and then the Expert level bike, which sells for $5,850 in the EVO version. There are a number of other options in the standard 100mm front travel version. The Epic also features only a 100mm option for rear travel. The Oiz has that and 120mm, so, another point for versatility.

When you get both bikes on the trail, the bikes are similar in weight and some spec, depending on whether you've set the bike up in World Cup race mode or trail mode. Even with similar geometry, the wider handlebars and better dropper post on the S-Works Epic EVO convert it into a bike that's far more confidence-inspiring to ride on rough terrain. The Epic doesn't have as much rear travel, but it also doesn't have the rat's nest of cables that the Oiz does. Then again, it trades that for a proprietary suspension platform, which a lot of riders will see as a problem changer, not a problem solver.

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SRAM Level Ultimate brakes and XX1 Eagle drivetrain.
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FSA's K-Force 760mm handlebar and stem.

Technical Report

Tires: Maxxis tires are spec'd and can be chosen, to an extent, while building the Oiz. It would be good to see more aggressive offerings, but the available combinations of Ikon, Forekaster, and Ardent's will suit the majority of riders looking for a bike in this category.

Fox Suspension: The Fox Factory suspension worked flawlessly and is simple to set-up and tune. I had a lot of gripes with the lock-out, but that isn't reflective of the quality of the suspension overall and it's not a fault of the Fox suspension, it's the placement and clutter on the bars. Orbea recently introduced their “Squidlock” system which positions the suspension switch for a cleaner more user-friendly setup with no lever interference which should help alleviate some of this.

SRAM Eagle Drivetrain: The Eagle XX1 drivetrain is reliable, lightweight, and performs well. It's durable, tried and true, and the range of gearing, paired with the 34-tooth front chainring is appropriate for an XC race bike.

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+ Lightweight, pedals well
+ Spec can be customized


- Remote lockout doesn't pair well with dropper lever
- The TR version still feels like an XC race bike

Pinkbike's Take

The Orbea Oiz is phenomenal as a 100mm XC race bike, no doubt on par with the best out there. However, the TR designation is a little misleading. What should be a very capable 120mm trail bike offers a minimal increase in capability and minimal changes in parts spec over the 100mm version; I would consider it more of a marathon than trail bike.

For more pure XC riders and racers, the Oiz can do double duty as a race bike and an all-day trail machine, but riders will probably think twice before taking it out for a day of downcountrying.
Daniel Sapp


  • 34 4
 xc racer’s trail bike? Is that like an euphemism for “don’t huck to flat because the seat stay will end up in a place where the sun doesn’t shine?”
  • 20 8
 What's the point of hucking to flat a XC bike?
  • 18 4
 @nozes: Have you seen the MSA XC course?
  • 13 1
 @nozes: for the purpose of seeing simultaneous compression of front and rear suspension.
  • 19 0
 Who told you that this place doesn't see the sun from time to time?? Smile
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 @nozes: I bet it would hold up better than the pole
  • 27 1
 "The 120mm-travel Oiz TR is a competent descender, but make no mistake: It's just a semi-beefed up XC rig"
So you mean it's not a competent descender.
  • 3 2
 This just remenber me the "Norco Optic" Bryn video: 130mm on a Fox Factory 36, 2.35 Maxxis with DH casing... Just like a playful trailbike
  • 24 0
 It depends, are you a competent descender?
  • 4 0
 @StFred: Well, there is a brazilian going full Nelson on a upduro bike!
  • 1 0
 @Notmeatall: at this point it’s going to become legal stuff. In reality you can ride any trail in any bike. But no brand will want to replace your xc or road frame if they know you’re riding it on rampage grounds.
  • 3 0
 How can this possibly be a "competent descender?" The HTA is over 65 and it doesn't weigh 31lbs. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET HURT!!
  • 12 3
 XC racers trail bike... holy sht... we are one step from XC racers Down Country bike. i am ahead though - I am riding Enduro racers Super Enduro bike!
  • 11 1
 Yeah well just wait until you see the 2030 Orbea Oiz DH. An XC racers downhill bike, complete with a 210 mm travel double-crown fork, 80mm of rear travel, mullet wheel sizing, and 2.2" XC tires.
  • 3 0
 The perfect bike for any XCrider looking for the perfect bike for those slightly gnarlier down country trail, perfect for those ride on a solar eclipse tuesday 17
  • 3 0
 @freerabbit: Some prefer the versatility of a lunar eclipse bike over a solar eclipse Tuesday bike. Horses for courses I guess.
  • 1 0
 @Landonop: I read "double-country" fork and am now starting to believe this could exist by 2030. Hell, I had a Judy XL and that is pretty much what it was.
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: Rock Shox has already been there and done that. They had a double crown ultra-light ultra-skinny SID back in the 1990s.
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 @taprider: shit, they did didn't they. The Judy XL was only 100mm too.
  • 9 2
 God, remote lockout makes otherwise good looking bikes absolutely hideous. I rode my buddy's Genius and loved it aside from the awful bird's nest of cables on the bars. I had to take breaks to look at the bars to determine what was my dropper and what was my lockout. It's a cool concept, but SRAM needs to make an AXS lockout kit or something. I'd buy that.
  • 6 1
 Oh well. Just kinda one of those things that XC bikes need to have.
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flag Landonop (Jan 16, 2020 at 6:50) (Below Threshold)
 @mnorris122: Meh, not really. It's definitely nice to have, but any decent mountain biker (no matter the discipline) should be able to adjust a shock mounted lockout switch on the fly.
  • 1 0
 Removed both lockouts on mine. Riding full open all the time in the back, and got an adjuster on the fork damper cap to lock the fork for long climbs. Forks fine for me, I'm no competitor...
  • 16 1
 @Landonop: If you're racing and going full gas for an hour+, it's very nice to have a "road bike" switch on the bars for smoother sections. Screw fiddling with lockouts when you can barely breathe
  • 7 0
 PB editors really need to stop discussing Reach without mentioning the Stack, and to a lesser degree HTA. These numbers are all related. A bike with a high Stack will have a shorter Reach on paper, and vice versa. Not discussing this does a disservice to the readers.

As an example to how big difference this makes, consider two bikes with 65 degree HTA. One has Reach = 450, Stack = 640. The second has Reach = 465, Stack = 608. In terms of range of cockpit positions from the BB, adjusted by using stem spacers, these bikes have the same geometry with respect to the BB!
  • 1 0
 I do a little trig every time I look at bikes for this same reason. You are wise
  • 5 0
 Looks like a dope XC bike. It's funny how a purposeful race bike is so polarizing in the field of all the short travel trail bikes.
  • 2 0
 I’ve been considering one of these for marathon events and getting into XC racing, but the review doesn’t help much. Either this is a review of a spec that’s now out of date or the North American spec is totally different to the European one? 2020 bikes have DT Swiss wheels throughout the range and Squidlock as standard to deal with the mess of cables.
  • 4 0
 This is a 2019 bike and the spec has had some small changes for 2020-and as noted, the Squidlock helps with the cables some.
  • 2 0
 I have been looking at one of these for marathon xc events as well and will agree that this review is making me reconsider. I wish that Orbea had sent Daniel a 2020 bike because I want to know more about the Squidlock. From what I have read it is a 3 position remote but it only fully works on the shock because the fork that is spec'd on the bike is a 2 position fork. I was hoping for some insight as to why Orbea did this. I was really excited when Orbea first came out with the Squidlock for the Oiz because I want a bike that can carry 2 bottles and has a 3 position lockout, but I guess I may have to keep waiting.
  • 4 0
 I can recommend you this bike for your purposes. I got it last year for the same thing and the bike is great.
Btw the squidlock does nothing with the cables. It just adds middle position to both fork and shock and everyone argues whether the middle position is real or not. Anyway you will be very happy when you have remote lockout on a bike you actually ride hard up hill. Sweet side effect of this is that bigger portion of you ridea will be downhill. Smile
  • 2 0
 no plans on racing XC but this was one of the bikes on my short list. When I rode it I found the pedaling fantastic but found the remote lock out annoying (and not needed). For an XC bike it got downhill pretty well, and actually a lot of fun off jumps. For context it was about 9 mile loop with 1200' of climb/descent.
However I ended up getting a Evil Offering - while the Evil doesn't pedal quite as well I'd say if the OIZ TR is a 9/10 the Evil is a 8/10 - the big difference is the Evil can truck downhill. It seems most modern 'trail bikes' will climb almost as well as 'XC bikes' but the 'XC bikes' fail to stay close to the 'trail bikes' on the downs.
For further context I had also spent some time on Ibis HD4, Ripmo and Trek Top Fuels & Fuel EX - I preferred the feel of the Evil.
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 @artistformlyknowasdan: The difference is all about the geometry and going fast on flats and uphills. The Offering frame alone is more than 1 kg heavier, add to that different geo, components and tires and the difference will be pretty big. But if you are primarily after having fun on downhill (read not flat or uphill) trails that are not that tame then the Offering will of course be better for you, but I'd be surprised if a competent rider was slower on the Oiz on a lap.
It's all about having the tool that is right for your conditions.
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 @TheJD: the point I was making is that u lose very little on climbs comparing the two (despite weight and geo) with the Evil but the evil way out performs the Oiz TR on descents
  • 3 0
 @pcassingham: Check out the Rocky Mountain Element
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 @artistformlyknowasdan: Over the course of a 100+ mile race you are going to lose a lot on the climbs due to the extra weight alone. I'm not winning any races but I still like to be somewhat competitive. I'm not looking for one bike that can do it all, I want a bike that is more set towards racing over long distance.
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 @artistformlyknowasdan: Once you race a marathon or a XC race you'll learn about the difference between a heavy bike and a light one. At least ⅔ of the time spent on a race is climbing,a lighter bike will help you very much more than a heavy one.
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 @nozes: I suggest trying both before deciding
  • 1 0
 @nozes: plus o have raced XC - weight is just one factor out of many
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 @artistformlyknowasdan: That's why I mentioned these other things too. In XC race aero matters too, so the higher your headtube (and more travel on fork) the less aero you can be. Steep seat angle is another example. While it is great on longer travel bikes when riding up a hill, it is not that good on a low travel bike, especially when riding on flat. These details add up. That's why Daniel Sapp says that Oiz TR and Optic are two very different bikes in the first place.
  • 13 9
 Gonna be a little twitchy with a 78 degree head angle (don't quote me, it's in the review)/
  • 16 1
 Wow Levy got his predictions so wrong for the Grim Donut. He went ten degrees the wrong way ! Wink
  • 4 0
 It'll be fine, it has a dual compound tyre up front to reduce grip.
  • 3 0
 well, the nino bike in the 2019 world cup had a suspension of 120mm fork 110mm the head angle 68 and this is the world champion’s bike in cross country.
  • 1 1
 Uh..nino races on a 100mm bike most of the time. He did run a 110mm fork on one track last year. In the past he has run custom frames with steeper hta than factory spec.
  • 5 0
 @clink83: In interviews, Nino said he used the 120mm last year.
  • 1 1
 @JohanG: you can physically look at his bike and see it's not a 120mm bike...
  • 1 0
 I could be wrong of course too though!
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 @clink83: how to determine the rear suspension travel from a photo?
  • 1 1
 @ilyamaksimov: the RC is a 100mm travel frame. Unless he's riding a custom linkage it's unlikely. Who knows though, Scott has made him custom frames in the past.
It does look like he's running the 110/120mm SID though, but it's anyone's guess to what travel its actually running.
  • 1 0
 I've got a season on mine and it's been really nice. My only beef is the Mavic wheelset, I'm a big guy 220# and those 24 spoke XC wheels have held up but I've replaced 5 spokes and keep waiting for the full fold to happen on a landing or g-out. Love the bike.
  • 1 0
 Carbon rims!
  • 4 0
 Get @Deakinator1 on it Oi Oiz
  • 3 0
 Seems like the Top Fuel would have been a closer comparison vs the Epic Evo
  • 6 0
 Or the Scott Spark which is arguably the gold standard in XC bikes...
  • 3 0
 Norco Revolver 120 is the xc racer's trail bike.
  • 3 1
 @jnroyal: I like my oiz better than the scott bikes...
  • 3 1
 Noted... definitely won’t be taking out for any downcountrying as I don’t know what that means, hope it isn’t a euphemism for something unpleasant
  • 2 0
 Wow! Not a 35 pound mini dh bike. Looks like a long distance epic ride machine. Nice change of pace around here. Orbea is a class act.
  • 2 0
 I've gone down the bike park with my Kona Hei Hei 100/120? What's the problem with this bike?
  • 2 1
 This is the perfect bike for a Lycra clad T-Rex! ????. With that reach, I’d need a XXXXL size.
  • 2 1
 I've seen this model taken on some pretty tough terrain. In the hands of a skilled and fit rider it's quite capable.
  • 2 0
 Very close to old spesh camber
  • 3 1
Not a word.
This madness has to stop !
  • 4 0
 The Oxford English Dictionary will recognize it if it is used frequently enough. Downcountrying Downcountrying Downcountrying Downcountrying Downcountrying Only a matter of time now. Downcountrying Downcountrying Downcountrying
  • 1 0
 @BenPea: how do you think, can you go downcountrying on a trail bike? Or it will trail-riding?
  • 1 0
 @Sirflyingv: yes, you may, but you will struggle to collect XC jeyboy points on the ups.
  • 2 0
 I didn't know that Chuck Norris son testing bikes..
  • 2 0
  • 1 0
 Looks awesome but I would pick up a Santa Cruz blur without giving it second thought over this one...imo
  • 1 0
 whats up with those bars, is that a hole underneath??
  • 2 0
 yup, so you can route the remote to the secret motor Smile
  • 1 0
 Yep, the FSA K-Force bars are designed to be Di2 compatible.
  • 1 1
 « On the 120mm TR version tested, the head tube angle is 78-degrees, and the seat tube angle is 74-degrees. »

68, not 78.
  • 2 2
 Looks like a worse version of the Tallboy 3. Which is a very shred-able 110mm bike.
  • 6 0
 And climbed like a wet mattress compared to an Oiz.
  • 1 0
 Looks like my first tallboy
  • 2 3
 Thought it looked short. It is short.
  • 2 3
 XC? might as well just walk...
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