Review: POC's New Waterproof Dungarees & Pants

Nov 8, 2021
by Henry Quinney  
DIY, mountain biking, salmon wading... these dunga's can do them all.

A little while ago we received the literature for the new season's clothing from Swedish clothing manufacturer POC. There was one garment that stood out - the Consort MTB Dungaree. Before we get into what these are like to ride in, let's just address some things straight off the bat.

First, they're expensive at $500 USD. Second, the expression of ice-cold irreverence that the model wore in the promotional materials was not one that I felt encapsulated how I felt when I wore them. In fact, it would be hard to say that I felt the word "cool" would be representative of how I felt being seen in them. Ultimately, I'm not somebody that likes flashy things. Almost all my clothes are black, I drive a clapped-out Dodge Caravan and I'm more likely to spend money on nice bread than I am on an expensive round of drinks. So maybe they're not for me to begin with.
Consort MTB Dungaree Details

• Six sizes - XS - XXL
• 15 000mm waterproof
• 30 000gsm breathability
• 3-layer fabric Cordura reinforced fabric
• DWR treated
• Zipped sides for ventilation
• Shoulder & waist adjusters
• $500 USD
www.pocsports.com


Functionality

I do, however, enjoy riding bikes and wouldn't describe myself as a fair-weather rider. If you ever go out puddle bashing or in generally sodden conditions, you may well find that the water coming from the tires is your chief adversary when it comes to staying warm and dry. In these conditions the dungarees are fantastic. In fact, on wet rides when it wasn't actively pouring, I'd often couple them with a long sleeve jersey and found them to work very well together.

They are very effective at covering all the splash zones.

When worn with a rain jacket, the dungarees are noticeably warmer than typical waterproof pants, and while pedaling it felt like I was losing a pint of sweat almost instantaneously. There are vents on the side of each leg, which helps, but I'd say these are best suited for cooler temperatures. Truthfully, I find it hard to ride for hours in most waterproof tops and bottoms, but the Consort dungarees do make long wet rides a far better experience and make bog-bashing a far less intimidating prospect. They are also truly excellent for bike-park or shuttle runs.

Fit

The fit is definitely more generous than typical riding trousers. I would normally ride a medium size in POCs trousers or shorts, and although they fit well around the legs, at 183cm tall I found I ran out of adjustment of the shoulders. Standing up they were fine, but when riding I found the back panel came under too much tension. This makes the baggy fit slightly more concerning, as the medium was already verging on being too large around the legs.

Both a long zip to get into the garment as well as zippers on both sides to access beneath the dungarees themselves.

Features

The dungarees, as you would expect from an item that costs $500 are certainly not short of features. The fabric itself is three-layered and Cordura reinforced with a 15000mm water column rating. The material also features a fluorocarbon free DWR treatment. It claims to be highly breathable, too, with a vapor permeability of 30000gsm/24hr.

The fit around the legs is made with knee pads in mind and it features fit adjustments via the waist and shoulders. There is a chest pocket, zipped hand pockets, and a zipped card pocket on the rear side of the item. There are also zipped sides, should you want to increase the airflow around your legs.

There is a certain amount of adjustment to the waist. Not much, but it makes a difference and secures it around your waist.
A chest pocket is just big enough to fit a smartphone in.

#activewear



Pros

+ Splash protection
+ Lots of useable adjustment, if you get the sizing right
+ Great for shuttle runs
+ Work well in showers combined with a jersey

Cons

- Divisive looks
- Slightly baggy around the leg
- Expensive
- Might be hard to get the right fit if you're in between sizes



Slightly more conventional looks.


The dungaree isn't the only new wet-weather trouser from POC. In fact, their Ardour All Weather Pants are completely the other end of the spectrum when it comes to the looks - although their functionality isn't totally dissimilar. The pants have more of an emphasis on mixed conditions and have waterproof material paired with stretch fabric to provide something that will keep you dry and also keep you comfortable. So far, so good. The black trousers also benefit, at least in my opinion, from more conventional looks.
M's Ardour Pants Details

• Five sizes - S - XXL
• 15000mm waterproof from the knee down
• 30000gsm breathability
• 3-layer Cordura fabric
• Elasticated cuffs around ankle
• DWR treated
• Velcro adjusters on waist
• $250 USD
www.pocsports.com
Functionality

The Ardour pant is an item that a lot of mountain bikers have probably wondered about or wished for at some time or another. Waterproof below the knee and around the saddle but blended with breathable fabrics everywhere else. This is at the core of the Ardour and it works very well.

Waterproof material from the knee down and around the saddle area seems like a good idea to me.

Personally, as previously mentioned, I'm rarely reaching for waterproofs top and bottom. I'm not saying there isn't a time or a place, but I find it often best to just accept you're going to get wet and make peace with it, especially when it's not only wet but also cold.

The Ardour pant feels like a garment far more suited to pedaling than the dungarees, and because they're more breathable you can combine them with a jacket and run cooler. I see the place of the dungarees for shuttling, but for general riding, I think the more traditional pant would be what I would go for.

On long pedals, they work well and they really feel like they manage to stave off the boil-in-a-bag feeling compared to some full waterproof trousers.

Plenty of adjustments available via velcro straps on the waist.

Fit

The medium size pant fits true to size in terms of the waist and length, at least by my reckoning. It's also consistent with POC's other items.

The fit itself is again slightly larger around the leg and knee than I would like. They're not baggy, but they're certainly roomier than I would like. I understand the need to have knee pads fit underneath but it feels like they've been taken a step too far. I would love to see the pant with a racier fit, akin to the one you might find on standard riding pants.

Zippered pockets on both sides.

Features

The pant has many features, some for fit and some for performance. As stated, the trouser features 15000mm water column rated fabrics around the areas you would most commonly get wet or splashed. Much like the dungarees, there is a fluorocarbon-free DWR coating. They boast vapour permeability of 30000gsm/24hr.

There are zipped hand pockets on both sizes and a cardholder at the rear of the pants. The fit also includes waist adjusters and elasticated ankle cuffs. I really like this, and they feel tight and secure around the base of the leg. I only wish that fit was followed up the calf further.



Pros

+ Breathable in key areas
+ Waist adjustment
+ Breathes well

Cons

- Slightly baggy around the leg






298 Comments

  • 364 14
 $500?! oh f*ck off.... slap an mtb related logo on it and jack up the price x100
  • 194 5
 For $500, it should come with Gore-tex Pro. But POC is ridiculously overpriced crap with mediocre quality. The overall design and features are nice (generally speaking), but the stitching is always crap and falls apart within a year. The stuff from Endura on the other hand usually looks boring as hell, but it's f*cking indestructible.
  • 35 1
 dirtlej dirtsuit half the price, double the protection
  • 61 0
 I'm a bit disappointed tbh. Knowing poc and their ridiculous pricing I expected at least $699. I mean Corona inflated shipping costs from banladesh.... It alls ads up
  • 30 0
 Next up, the $1000 onesie riding kit. Blah.
  • 16 103
flag NorCalNomad (Nov 8, 2021 at 8:55) (Below Threshold)
 $500 for pants with that material spec is on par with other mtn sports (climbing, skiing, etc) #knowwhatyou'retalkingabout
  • 60 2
 @NorCalNomad: except that $500 gets you Gore-Tex Pro pants from Patagonia or Arc'teryx. The quality of gear made by these two brands is something totally different.

What you get here for $500, are pants with a no-name membrane made by a company that does not seem to know how to make stuff that will last for years instead of months.
  • 7 0
 @f00bar: Yeah, the A Cad Futurelight bibs are $550 from TNF. Which is expensive, but they are truly top quality. $500 for these bibs is absurd.
  • 5 1
 @f00bar: bingo!
@norcalnomad: you can get stuff cheaper than that from companies like Arc’Teryx and such and their quality is X10 better and actually using proven materials and membranes that are far superior- Goretex Pro
  • 16 1
 $500 and it is probably made in a country where labor laws are disregarded.
  • 13 0
 @NorCalNomad: What "material spec" are you talking about? Even on their website they don't really go into details on the membrane. "Constructed from a highly durable 3-layer fabric with stretch and reinforced with Cordura® ..." I have no doubt these are high quality given how POC rolls- but for that price I think it needs to be clear. Three layers doesn't mean much unless you tell me what there are three layers of. Were these made by Arc'teryx they would also likely cost $500 US also but explicitly stated would be more about the membrane and backing fabrics, the quality of the seams or welds, and the warranty. These look like an esoteric product with a price that reflects the novelty vs. the value.
  • 3 0
 @Germanmike: Got myself a Dirtlej SFD, money very well spent!!! Great bit of kit and very versatile with being able to zip off the legs and arms to adapt it to the conditions.
  • 5 0
 @f00bar: N=1 But my POC shorts & knee protectors are going on their 4th season of 2 times a week of use. Both still going strong. No issues what so ever. Can't say the same of Fox branded clothing!
  • 2 0
 @Adrianrisa: Poc knee pads disintegrate over the time. I had 2 sets with the inside material broken in peaces in less than 2 years. Globes are very crappy compared to Fox and are twice expensive.
  • 2 0
 @stormracing: arcteryx bibs are not cheaper. They’re slightly more expensive, but better in every possible way
  • 2 10
flag waldo-jpg (Nov 8, 2021 at 10:31) (Below Threshold)
 @f00bar: endura stuff is absolutely shite if you're don't have chad physique. Pants so stiff around the hips you can barely pedal
  • 1 0
 LOL, if it's that f*cking expensive, you don't have to be shy about masking the vulgarity of the product! I guess PinkBike started masking some of the vowels to make the word less vulgar Big Grin I wonder how some didn't get censored?
  • 8 0
 Just buy some stocking foot Simms G3 waders for about the same price and they can be dual purpose riding and fishing. Gore-Tex Pro and made in the USA!
  • 2 0
 @Rich-Izinia: recently upgraded to G3's. Never imagined I'd spend on waders like that, but looking at the construction inside and out, I'm now expecting much more for all equipment I buy going forward regardless of use.
  • 7 0
 literally get the heck out of here with this sheer dumbassery of an outfit
  • 5 0
 Dungarees are only good with proper waterproof boots. May as well just wear pants.
  • 1 0
 @gerhards: I own them. They are very nice.
  • 2 0
 @Germanmike: more than agreed, works like å charm in northern Norway.
  • 17 1
 £500 to look like a minion f*ck that!!
  • 2 0
 @McFuntish @Germanmike another one with @dirtlej here, best thing ever for Ireland (and Scottish weather too), was on Tweed Valley for the EWS and the Core Edition saved my day
  • 11 1
 Patagonia will also repair any of their gear for free. I split a seam in some of their shorts after multiple seasons, they not only repaired it but also had their tailor reinforce other key seams in the shorts and replace a zipper. All a super nice and professional job. Make sure you like the colors of any Patagonia gear you get 'cause you'll have it a while.
  • 3 0
 I also have a Dirtlej dirtsuit, and it is good, but I found that after its DWR coating comes off from your first swash buckling ride, they keep the weather out for a while, but in propper rain, you're better off to stay in the house.
  • 1 0
 @Waldon83: it rains non stop in Ireland, for several months in winter, zero issues, I've the ProSuit and the Core Suit, use the Core edition on colder days and no problems, can rain for hours, I don't get any water inside
  • 4 2
 @f00bar: These are over priced for sure not denying that... but gore pro would be a terrible choice for bike pants regardless of cost. Terrible breathability and no meaningful stretch... using gore pro for aerobic activities is foolish because you'll keep the water out, but get absolutely soaked from the inside.

Maybe because where I ride you just can't ride when it's wet... but to me this seems like a silly unnecessary product that the world just didn't need. Seems like good softshell riding pants will protect you well enough while being infinitely more comfortable and durable, no?
  • 2 1
 @homerjm: Maybe I'm just lucky! But like I said, my knee pads have lasted 4 seasons, with multiple trips to the washer & drier. No issues whatsoever
  • 6 2
 Yep! Totally agree @stumphumper92:

These aren’t aimed at bad weather mountain bikers- these are aimed at middle suburban dads, who “ride” MTB at weekends away from the family, in the local community forestry area.
Any true biker will either invest in a proper outdoor brand that cater for proper outdoor lifestyles or, they’ll buy a cheap set know that it’ll get trashed within a season or two.
  • 2 0
 @Rich-Izinia: agreed. Some of the best waders made! Insane amount of days in them suckers hunting every day of season and they are still almost perfect. Some minor pinhole leak repairs and they are dialed!

@gerhards: yeah they sure are sweet!
  • 1 0
 @waldo-jpg: I disagree. I'm an 34 waist with XL to XXL thighs and the pants have quite a bit of room. Not nearly as tight as some brands like Gore, definitely a "slim" fit on those.
  • 2 1
 @2-1RacingUK: dads won’t fit the waistband on those no matter the size
  • 2 0
 There's just no shame with some of these companies.
  • 11 0
 C'mon Eileen...
  • 1 0
 Signed-in jus to ‘like’ this comment.
  • 1 0
 safe to say WAY MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS are out there for staying dry (enough) on a ride.
  • 4 3
 Even the guy modelling looks like he feels like Rosie O'Donnells used tampon
  • 1 0
 @elyari: don’t get me wrong, I stay dry but the moisture doesn’t bead off like it initially did.
Either way, it’s expensive but it serves a purpose. I don’t ride in the rain often, but if I get the chance to ride shuttles or a chairlift, I don’t want the rain to put me off.
  • 3 0
 Haha Do you buy a lot of $5 waterproof pants?
  • 1 4
 I can get the same ones off aliexpress for just $20
  • 1 1
 @NorCalNomad: Being that you think you know what you are talking about. Why on God's green earth do you ride a Marin wolf ridge? Just asking for a friend who might know what they are talking about as well.
  • 3 0
 Don't get me wrong, I want to look like a minion. But I feel like the minion vibe should be attainable for £200 or so…
  • 4 2
 POC- Piece Of Crap
  • 3 0
 @f00bar: I have had the exact opposite experience both my endura pants and rainshell self destructed in one season with holes in the pocket and the seam tape falling off. The POC pants and shorts are still going strong 3 years in.
  • 1 0
 @snl1200: I agree...
  • 1 1
 @f00bar: sort of....

As a longtime Arc'Teryx user I've had some amazing performance from their garments, and a lot of warranty work.
Mostly on my Alpha SV jacket which has been totally replaced three times due to Gore-Tex delamination.
I've also had so many glued seems come undone and had to be sent I for warranty.
Really the quality of Arc'Teryx a'd Gore-Tex isn't the reason to pay the price, but the ironclad warranty that means when it fail (not if) you'll be taken care of.
That's the problem with a brand like POC where their fabric might delaminate and you're stuck with a failed product.

Although in my experience I find it incredibly frustrating how my Arc'Teryx jackets always fail going into winter and then I'm stuck in the warranty loop for a month or so. So even though I get a new jacket every few years it can drive me crazy.
  • 2 3
 @ironxcross: You probably haven't noticed that these pants have a membrane and won't stretch either.
Anything with a waterproof membrane will have zero stretch and will breathe worse than a fabric without one.

Waterproof pants are meant for the kind of weather that a softshell can't handle. If you don't need that level of protection, then softshell is obviously the better choice for you.
  • 2 0
 @f00bar: True, I still have a pair of Endura shorts from about 8 years ago. The waterproof butt patch has only just stopped keeping my ass dry, best purchase I've made at €40.
  • 1 0
 They're having a fookyng laugh... Let's wait for other more reasonable priced versions of this idea... which is great by the way... hey wait! hold my beer
  • 2 0
 I got sucked into paying $175 for their DH pants, glued seem came undone in 3 rides. Total garbage, yet Pinkbike keeps pedaling their crap in these glorified commercials, not reviews
  • 6 0
 When you have a ride in the morning and a reunion with your Amish cousins in the afternoon
  • 1 1
 That's R8500 in our money down here in Africa. For dungarees that look bizarre and will help you stew yourself in your own sweat. Just wear non waterproof longs, get wet, but stay clean and chuck them in the wash afterwards. Or are these really aimed at snowboarders?
  • 1 0
 @f00bar: I have their gloves and they are the most durable gloves for riding, eveything else fell apart because the stiching didn't hold up.
  • 1 0
 Ya, it’s all getting to be a bit much. I’m a big fan of the right tool for the job, bibs for pow days on skis, ski touring, etc, but we’re taking about mtn biking…you’re going to get muddy on wet dats. Wear some shorts and some Costco socks and pony-up.

I will say, I’m a fan of poc - longest running pair of gloves I own; however, the dungarees are a weird progression, a direction, including price, I can’t get behind.
  • 1 0
 @2-1RacingUK: I would think the winter commuter crowd would be more inclined to these than anyone riding on the trails. There are better options for commuting however.
  • 2 2
 @f00bar: Ah how dangerous it is to know a little bit about something.

There are actually a lot of really good 3 layer fabrics out there these days with very substantial stretch. If you've ever seen a membrane on its own you know the membrane is actually incredibly stretchy... it's the backer and face fabric that are the limiting factors. I saw someone mention TNF futurelight here, that's a great example of a true 3 layer with great stretch. You are clearly not up to date on technical fabrics if you don't think anything with a membrane can stretch, so I'm not sure why you are so opinionated about this subject.
  • 1 0
 $300 pic glasses were the worst MTB related purchase I ever made. And I use to ride a hard trail.
  • 2 0
 @headshot: since you're from south africa, maybe you don't understand how cold it gets when you get wet in temperatures close to freezing, which may be 3-4 months every year for us folks here in Germany. It's pretty important that your clothes repell as much water as possible and not make you sweat profusely on the inside in these conditions. I've abandoned some rides last winter because I got wet and couldn't feel my feet and fingers a few minutes after
  • 1 0
 Fvcking pussies. I bought 2 pairs. I never thought I would have the opportunity to look like cross between a trout fisherman in Montana and a cow farmer in Wisconsin! Who am I kidding, I couldn't afford the sticker that MIGHT come in the package.
  • 1 0
 @ironxcross: it's nowhere near as stretchy as generic softshell, which *you* have compared this against
  • 1 0
 @jokermtb: hahaha, well- I’m sure they’ll try when they show up on the Black-Friday sale listings.
  • 1 0
 @waldo-jpg: Sure, for some a garment like this will be necessary. By the way, where I live we had a lot of snow on the high ground last winter and I had more wet and muddy rides than usual. Not quite the same as Northern Europe but not as different as you might think.
  • 2 0
 @headshot: I'm gonna have to visit at some point, sounds like a rad place
  • 1 0
 @Adrianrisa: To me "multiple" could be a few washes over 4 years,or washing it almost every ride. I like to have fresh clean clothes when I go ride. I hate stinky stuff and ridding with stinky riders. I worked as trail guide very often,we do tons of uplift service in a van, so no place for a stinky stuff member,like you need to have your bike ready, your clothing need to be good too.
So all my clothing goes to the washing machine when every ride is finish. Only exception is shoes if they are not dirty at all and it is not summer I wash them every few rides (3-4 rides).
I had like 4 complete ridding kits including shoes/helmet just to been able to ride a full week not going crazy my stuff.
  • 118 0
 When you're working at the garden centre until 5pm and meeting for the ride at 5.20pm.
  • 8 0
 They remind me a lot of my Carhartt dungarees - they're even the same colour. The difference is that the Carhartts have had a few years of hard use on the farm, whereas these look like they'd tear in half walking up a flight of particularly uneven stairs.
  • 3 0
 Only if you got a bonus this month.. Dickies Classic Bib Overalls, Brown Duck $49.99
  • 3 0
 I've just started wearing Engelbert Strauss bib overalls to work, I'm a plumber. They have been a revelation, I love wearing them but they cost around £80, so I hope they last as well as the Snickers pants I normally wear.
  • 1 0
 @chrsei: I am kind-of tempted - do they have a fly though, or do you have to unhook the top?
  • 3 0
 @chakaping: There's a conventional fly to allow you to point Percy without getting undressed first
  • 107 1
 I’m just here for the comments
  • 55 0
 Me Dungaree
  • 1 3
 Here's mine. Add you're own choice of witticism here for guaranteed satisfaction:
  • 1 2
 And ignore the typo.
  • 95 0
 Ive been trying to ride pack-free for years and now they want to strap my pants to my shoulders?!
  • 1 0
 Best comment!! This had me rolling!!
  • 80 0
 I've been wading for this review.
  • 45 0
 Overall, I was a little disapointed.
  • 4 2
 I find this product a little sus
  • 8 2
 The suspense was killing me
  • 11 2
 They look like Dung agrees everyone.
  • 5 0
 Mods had to bib & brace for the comments

(That should about cover all the bad pun options)
  • 75 8
 ONLY $500...pfffft...pass.

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 16 0
 And also not from eco recycled fair trade material sewn by happy and well paid Cambodian adults.
  • 15 49
flag mattddrchs (Nov 8, 2021 at 9:09) (Below Threshold)
 This was a funny shtick for like a week... now it's just boring.
  • 41 3
 @mattddrchs: You know what's not funny...that you sold your gravel bike, Matt. Heartbreaking is the word I', thinking of. If you need a hookup on a Topstone NEO hit me up!

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 5 27
flag Allen82 (Nov 8, 2021 at 10:05) (Below Threshold)
 @mattddrchs: Agreed
  • 19 2
 @Allen82: The commenters have spoken - i'll flag for my CTO to ban you.

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 3 2
 @notoutsideceo: Yes please
  • 76 4
 Finally a price point worthy of my body! Be safe be well, Incognito Robin
  • 2 0
 I'm betting they sell out first.
  • 8 2
 Honestly, fuck that to the ends of the earth.
  • 6 1
 These are part of the official uniform for the afterparties at 2021 United Nations Climate Change Conference Glasgow.
  • 1 0
 WT... be safe be well, Incognito Supreme Jacquard
  • 1 0
 almost pissed myself!
  • 55 0
 This looks like something a mom would buy son to protect his virginity.
  • 21 0
 Chastity Bibs
  • 34 1
 "The medium size pant fits true to size in terms of the waist and length, at least by my reckoning"

Not that I'm in the market for a pair of $500 overalls, but these statements in clothing reviews are frustrating: What on earth does that mean? I'm not asking for exact dimensions, but saying something like "I'm 1.7 meters tall and 68kg with a 76cm inseam, and a size medium fit me well" would be a lot more useful.

I mean, OK sure. I just automatically order XL in everything because I'm a tall fatass, but even then XL in Castelli and XL in Carhartt mean two /entirely/ different things.
  • 4 0
 Well from my experience anything ordered from mainland Europe, is automatically a size smaller than you need. I'm a size large and have to order XL or sometimes XXL to even remotely fit into an Italians idea of cycling clothes.
  • 29 0
 Save yourself a few hundred bucks and buy some fishing waders (for "salmon wading") with the same fit and adjustability. Your feet will even stay dry. These are ridiculous...
  • 3 0
 As I said above, Simms G3 stocking foot are $550. Gore-Tex Pro and made in the USA. I’m still wearing a pair that is over 10 years old. The suspenders are toast but they still don’t leak so I can’t bear to replace them!
  • 31 0
 When you gotta milk the cows at 6 and ride at 10...
  • 11 1
 @Bushmaster123 0600 seems a little late for milking the cows... haha. More like 0430 cows, to 0700 ride
  • 4 0
 @RBalicious: my bad hahah!
  • 8 0
 @RBalicious: really? Why moooost you start so early?
  • 6 0
 @SimbaandHiggins: hahaha! Because dad said so
  • 26 0
 On the Canadian website I see "$600.00 or 4 interest-free payments of $250.00 with afterpay". Is that a f*cking joke? A thousand f*cking dollars? Paying 66% more to finance MTB dungarees? POC can f*cking f*ck right off.
  • 2 2
 While these are no doubt expensive, POC isn't forcing you to finance their pants. Lol, sad that somebody probably will though....
  • 19 0
 I guess if one is willing to finance pants, personal finance is not their strong suit.
  • 7 0
 They'd have to be some fine assed pants to finance pants
  • 1 0
 That’s weird. The US site shows a $500 price or 4 payments of $125. But in any case the finance price it set by afterpay, which is a third party finance company.
  • 27 0
 A trouser review that fails to include both the rider's and the trouser's inseam measurements is essentially useless.
  • 18 0
 500$ for non Gore-tex pant is a real bargain Smile
  • 17 2
 Came here to laugh at the price and was not disappointed. Side splitting!


These are a good idea though. I would deffo consider some Endura ones at £100
  • 10 0
 Can't wait to see the bling bike boys coasting the blues with these bad larry's
  • 16 4
 I dont understand waterproof pants for pedalling in. If its warm enough for the water to be actual water and not ice then it's too warm to be pedalling in waterproof pants. If it's cold enough for the water to be frozen then you dont need waterproofs as the water isnt wet.
  • 2 1
 Guess I should have read the article before commenting.... Ardour pants look like a god combo
  • 4 0
 You were right about the overalls though. What's the point of waterproof clothing if you're going to be soaked from the inside with sweat?

Also, I could just be cynical but it's hard to imagine them staying waterproof in the area that rubs the saddle.
  • 7 0
 @Bobadeebob: never read the article before commenting.
  • 12 1
 A $250 pair of trousers that comes in "Medium"?? Is it too expensive to offer proper sizing? At that price they should come in a proper range of standard width and length options. It costs more of course and if these were $25 I would understand the cost saving but not offering a 32/34 type measurement with a wide range of lengths for each width at the price of 5 decent pairs of trousers is laughable.

The dungarees are probably not designed to sell any units but more to get people talking I guess? Why else would they be twice the price of the trousers for an extra square meter of fabric and two straps?
  • 11 0
 Yeah- I'm typically of the mind to ignore the prices and allow capitalism to do it's thing. If there is a demand and people want to pay it- cool- do you. From the Ski side of things, and moutnaineering when I was younger, I am also a firm believer in buy the right thing for the job and quality costs money. So I do have a lot of non-budget items in my gear pile...especially when it comes to ski touring etc. However, this one has me curious. I fully expected to read it was eVent or Gore Tex Pro at that price. Was curious when I saw it was a DWR treated, cordura reinforced, three layers of... something? The price on this one baffles me. I would have gone $350 were it on The Price is Right knowing it was POC and their pricey'ness and that it was a bit of an esoteric item. Oh well- I'll be curious to see if it lasts and if enough people think it is worth it. Perhaps riders on the wet coast will find it worth it. Also- what is the warranty sitch? Part of the reason I will pay the cash for Arc'teryx, Patagucci, or OR (and recently Fly Low who were super supportive of a warranty claim and won me over as a customer!) is because they support their products really well. At this price point I want to hear about how I'm only buying these pants once in a decade.
  • 3 0
 I was thinking the same thing. What the hell does 3-layer mean here? As you pointe out 2L and 3L fabrics refer to outerwear with some membrane like Gore-tex. Sound like they were just trying to make this shit sound like it had more going on than it really does.
  • 1 0
 I get that it might cost "some" business more to do business right now and they have to raise costs to continue to make a profit. BUT... feels like some companies are just marking things up higher to take advantage of the times.
  • 2 0
 @stiingya: definitely this, not that I’m into the stock market but it does seem like most companies are doing pretty good
  • 13 0
 Even the manequin is feeling bad wearing this.
  • 10 2
 I am not a fair weather rider either... but if it THAT wet out, probably should stay off the trails and get some strength training/stretching instead. Trails where I live in the PNW drain quickly, but dayum! No need for waiters!
  • 8 0
 Makes me sick to my stomach that I've purchased rain gear for physical labor that's WAAAAY bettter and can durable and than bike brands charge this much. Get out of here with that crap. Plus these pants look like garbage
  • 8 0
 After seeing the first couple of pics and then the $500 price tag I couldn’t scroll down to the comments fast enough!
  • 8 0
 Do they want us to go fly fishing with our bikes now?
  • 7 0
 What's the gooch to shoulder strap measurement? Asking for a (talll) friend
  • 9 0
 As with all overall it measures an inch less than would be comfortable.
  • 4 0
 And note I've purchased 2 CARS for less than $500. Both drove down the street without catching fire and kept me dry too. And a car has ~30,000 parts too. If folks want to pony up those $$$, I guess why not.

This doesn't seem like a $500 pant crowd, so questioning the review.
  • 3 0
 Maybe they are just tying to capitalize on the recent popularity of bibs in snowboarding abs skiing? Only difference is they make sense for snow sports to keep snow and powder out while providing some extra warmth. Not really seeing much benefit for biking. And the cost is ridiculous. These cost as much as the top end fully waterproof snow sports lines.
  • 7 0
 Looks like "Simple Jack".
  • 7 0
 If it's that wet..do something else.
  • 9 0
 I would literally rather go riding in Speedos than spend $500 of my money on these trousers
  • 7 0
 looks like a bag of potatoes
  • 3 0
 oh fu*k the fu*k off - now these brands are just trolling MTB'ers, seeing if they will actually pay this amount to look like a complete twat, and yes, the model looks a twat in this ... thing, I think they said as much themselves. I mean we look like dorks at the best of times, but this is literally next level trolling, and some are paying for this privilege, and they will, that's why a-holes companies like this get away with it - people are ACTUALLY BUYING THIS STUFF!!!!
  • 2 0
 Added about 1/4 of tops worth of material on top of some pants and charges $250 more than their pants hahahah. That’s bad. My goodness and it’s not even goretex…

At that point, there’s FAR better options out there that can found and even made better with a seamstress doing a little work for you with zippers/hemming/etc
  • 6 0
 They put the price at $500 to try to make the $200 pants look reasonable.
  • 5 0
 At that price, they really missed an opportunity not making them in turquoise.
  • 2 0
 Guess those overalls would be great for plumbers:
1) It'll hide their butt cracks
2) They can afford it after charging you several hundred dollars just to look at the problem.
3) At least the overall will provide some waterproof coverage if something goes wrong with the pipes.

Yeah, so these overall weren't really made for biking Big Grin
  • 2 0
 1) Wow does Henry have that "They Made Me Put Them On" resignation face and

2) Glad to see all 212 comments before me likewise instantly hate these and

3) To be honest - truly, why the f*ck would anyone need these and

4) Does it come with a trapdoor poop & piss flap because it looks like a dirge to have to pull those down to do either
  • 3 0
 Slap some paint on some trashbags, bungee cord them around my legs, smear vasoline all over legs under the trashbags to ensure mobile, waterproof and moisturised skin... 10 bucks.
  • 2 0
 Seen those in Finale in the Shop and was laughing at the price and who the hell would buy those. Next day two blokes sit in the shuttle next to me wearing these over their Flanell shirts on a beautifully sunny day.

For all those who wonder. They don’t stretch. They look way flimsier than my GTXpro skiing pants and I really don’t want to know how pooped they look after a few proper mudrides
  • 2 0
 "- Slightly baggy around the leg" for me this is a +

I don't like tight fitting clothes, I don't care if on a WC DH level they're 1 second slower over a 3min course. I'll still be 15min slower than those folk even if you put me in a skin suit!
  • 1 0
 You're saying the POC-sponsored DH World Cup and EWS racers won't be wearing these next year?
I'm shocked.
  • 2 0
 Yep thats the final straw for me, POC are off my shopping list for being p****s taking b********rds. One crash they are in the bin, aside from making any wearer look like a tw**t.

Still way over priced but I just got a pair GPX Pro trousers at £90, do everything I need on the bike and all other outdoor stuff.
  • 5 0
 But do they make a diaper sound when I pedal?
  • 1 0
 Oh yeah, for sure!
  • 8 5
 I've never complained on PB for prices, but the fact these prices were not in the CONS list, shows......you've lost your mind.
  • 15 0
 Pros

+ Splash protection
+ Lots of useable adjustment, if you get the sizing right
+ Great for shuttle runs
+ Work well in showers combined with a jersey

Cons

- Divisive looks
- Slightly baggy around the leg
- Expensive
- Might be hard to get the right fit if you're in between sizes
  • 1 0
 This is your "community" giving back. $500 for a trash bag with shoulder straps is a deal! You know, the industry that is having such a rough time from shipments shortages of components for plastic bikes that sell for almost $10k and pays their career designers $35k salary a year... Hey, your balls are showing... Bumblebee-Tuna!
  • 1 0
 Does anyone actually wear pants? I'm talking like "downcountry" type riding. Not exactly XC, but lots of pedaling for sure. Pants just haven't ever worked for me. It's like the pedaling wants to slowly bring down my pants (de-pants? yes). Water proof(ish) shorts, tall, wool ski socks, knee pads. Maybe an extra layer under the shorts and I'm good. Totally happy in the mud and snow. But I'm from Colorado. We can't ride when super wet out. (trails will be closed)
  • 3 2
 At what point do companies in this industry go too far and boycotted? I say THIS is too far. I call for every one of you to boycott POC until they go bankrupt or fire the c*nts that came up with and passed this asinine offering.
  • 1 0
 just rediculous.....

The pandemic is serving well the industry....the prices are continuing to go up ( understandable) but i am wondering if they ever return to the pre pandemic values......prolly not.

i saw today the 7mesh jacket that Remy Metalier wears....500€......why not buy a regular Salomon????
  • 3 0
 Well at least 7mesh uses (more expensive) Gore-Tex Pro fabric.

A comparable Salomon Gore-Tex Pro 3L jacket would be their "OUTPEAK GORE-TEX 3L" and it costs... wait for it... €499.99

500€ is simply a "standard" MSRP for high end GTX Pro hardshells.
300€ for simple GTX Pro jackets with fewer features (a single pocket, no pit vents, not adjustable cuffs etc).

...also bike-specific clothes have a better bike-specific fit and usually have lots of nice little extra features that general outdoor clothes lack
  • 3 0
 @f00bar: I'm from 7mesh, thanks for the comment. I think the disconnect is because bike apparel has lagged behind for so long. Climbing, hiking, ski, snowboard, hunting, fishing, tactical...the apparel is light years ahead of where it was 20 years ago, while bike is playing catch up.

When we show our top end jackets in new bike shops we often get asked about being expensive. When we show them to bike/outdoor crossover shops (especially in Europe) we often get asked what shortcuts we're taking to make them cheaper. [Before the flames - 'cheaper', not 'cheap'!]
  • 5 0
 It feels like this was just a prank to haze Henry.
  • 2 0
 POC is being pushed by all famous YouTube channels, and MTB news etc. I never liked POC, the reason being, overpriced as f*ck, and the quality isn't that great.

Lol people that buy this kit for $500 are idiots.
  • 1 0
 Only problem with bibs shows up when the double esspresso hits and yer lookin for a nice spot trailside to read the paper and...take care of business. This is a problem on skis also. If your wearin a jacket, it is full disrobe time. Pants ya just yank em down.
  • 2 1
 Clearly an unpopular opinion, but to me, these make great sense. I often go out when it's not actually raining, but the trails are still splashy, so you get a wet arse, back and front. Which is the boys these cover. I'd go for the full hillbilly look and have them as shorts, so you don't cook. They'd be funnier in denim colour, but you'd look less of an idiot if they'd just made then in black. And not charged £500 for them! I'd buy a dirtlej romper suit, but reckon I'd cook in 5 minutes.
  • 2 1
 it is pretty obvious that few people here actually ride in wet conditions
they'll spend $200 on a stem which does next to nothing for performance and gripe about a pant that will
let you ride in any condition.....
but again, most here are obviously fairweather riders spending time commenting instead of riding
  • 2 2
 False… we just want gear that is actually worth spending that money
  • 1 0
 Saw a couple unfortunate souls riding in these, "testing" during a race this summer - not sure why they would have done that on a warm sunny day, but they were absolutely miserable in this fishing gear.
  • 1 0
 Anyone know where I can but this DWR chemical? It's the only reason these garments get the water resistant rating. Not the spray on crap. I want to soak my clothes in it.
Maybe on my Walmart coveralls .
  • 2 0
 Fun fact most DWR is incredibly toxic, great pre-curosr to cancer and damaging to the environment. It is long chain carbon molecules will not break down in the body or in nature. Just google it. There are newer greener versions, but if POC are not saying it is the greener type then assume its the bad type.
  • 2 0
 @Bedede: cool ! Where do you buy it?
  • 3 0
 If I'm paying $500 to get my gooch sweaty, I expect to have it licked clean too.
  • 3 0
 these comments are gold. not often you see a product released that kills demand for their other products out of pure spite.
  • 3 2
 What if you just put a jacket over them, then they are just pants to the untrained eye. Also holy crap why are they $500??????
  • 3 0
 Do they come with a Lisa Frank pencil bag?
  • 3 0
 Overalls. Looks like I just unlocked an outfit in a video game.
  • 3 0
 Waterproof onesie or nothing!
  • 3 0
 I actually have one for skiing, it's sick!
  • 1 0
 These are sick! Overalls were a revelation for me when snowboarding. If I move somewhere where winter MTB is acceptable I'll get these (on clearance)
  • 3 0
 I hear Carhartt is having a sale right now...
  • 4 1
 my goretex snowboarding bibs were half the price of this. this is insane
  • 1 0
 Scrolls down for price ... $500! Why not? Lucrative market.

I just bought a pair of older MEC full length pants at Value Village for $10, and that's what they're worth.
  • 3 0
 That's a bold strategy, Cordura, let's see if it pays off for them.
  • 2 0
 The price made me throw up in my mouth a little...that's f***ing atrocious, come on.
  • 2 0
 When quittin' time at the job site is 5pm and you gotta be at the trails at 5:30.
  • 1 0
 POC- the company known for ridiculously expensive and extremely ugly bike protection has now taken it to a whole new level....
  • 2 0
 Even the model looks like "who the fug gonna actually rock these things"? The gortons fisherman wants his kit back!
  • 3 0
 The look on that dude's kind of says it all.
  • 1 0
 I want both. Not at that price, but I still want them. A do agree should have Gore-Tex for that price, and then it would be in line with other high end raingear.
  • 2 0
 When you have trails at 4pm and a gig with your Dexys Midnight Runners cover band at 7, these are your goto.
  • 2 0
 This makes me want to punch POC in the face. This is legitimately something that should have been released on April 1st.
  • 3 0
 Pricing aside, would you PBers be more keen if these were $150?
  • 1 0
 Seems that since MTB borrows so much from Ski and Moto now, that overalls would be very a welcome style. For 500 I'd want some POC protective foam in the knees or knees/hips.
  • 1 0
 Looks like chest waders. Wear 'em with a Fox Legion Tac Vest and nobody will be able to tell if you were planning on fishing or riding your bike.
  • 1 0
 What an load of f*cking sh*t. $500!!?? I will now adamantly refuse to ever by anything from POC after seeing this ridiculous price
  • 2 0
 Henry literally became the mushroom!
  • 5 5
 Why won’t POC go away? Literally haven’t seen any of their products in the wild for at least five years and then they return with this shit?
  • 6 0
 Also all the companies can talk their big talk about saving the environment, but not one is willing to drop PTFE (DWR), which is causing far more damage than climate change ever will.
  • 1 2
 POC stuff is nice. I have a pair of their Resistance pants and a 3/4 sleeve jersey that's in constant rotation. Priced similar to other big brands, better quality imo. These two pieces are a bit out there though.
  • 5 0
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: there are DWR's that are free of PFC's....
  • 3 0
 their helmets are fine (if you buy them at the standard 50% discount)
  • 3 0
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: Endura makes PTFE-free DWR coatings for their waterproof stuff. I'm sure other brands do too
  • 2 0
 @xxinsert-name-herexx: Actually most are and many places have put laws in place to ban it. Most DWR thats being sold now much different (and less effective) that what was available 5 years ago.
  • 1 0
 Looks like Bikerfox has got some competition, going by the pic above the pros and cons.
  • 2 0
 500 USD. lol. yeah right.
  • 2 0
 Also 15k waterproof is pretty bad for use in Mtb
  • 3 0
 15k is bad for any activity that is actually wet. Fine for 20F with snow, but not for wet snow or rain
  • 1 0
 @Beaconbike: exactly! 20k absolute minimum if it’s going to actually be wet
  • 2 0
 Ok, that’s enough. I quit.
  • 2 0
 oh man i hate this guy. theyre divisive? thats your first gripe? haha
  • 2 0
 Fly Bike Fishing becomes a thing.
  • 1 0
 PB meta-trolling us with these prices knowing people will rage in the comments. Well played, Henry.. Well played...
  • 1 0
 Would rather have a full jumpsuit instead of a half version where the half is in the wrong place.
  • 3 1
 I'd pay and extra $300 for an e-pant version. POC r u LiStEnInG
  • 3 1
 $500?!?!?! You've got to be sh*tting my d*ck!!!!
  • 2 0
 April 1st???



No, no I checked again it’s still not April 1st
  • 2 0
 You homies biting Keeg's style
  • 2 0
 "There are my $500 shuttle pants. Yes I take them off at the top."
  • 2 0
 finally an affordable fishing pant
  • 2 0
 Holy @#£&*@)@=#+&#(#)’s How much for those dungarees!!!!!
  • 1 0
 $500 pants but the knee pads are supposed to be under the fabric? I'll need crash insurance.
  • 1 0
 Henry Quinney looking like an 80’s kid’s TV presenter (may be a UK specific thing)
  • 2 0
 $500 to wear that? I'd rather be wet.
  • 3 0
 What a time to be alive
  • 2 0
 Keeping yourself and the ladies dry!
  • 1 0
 Like who's gonna want to ride with a wedgie up their crack, waterproof wedgie for those juicy fart days
  • 2 0
 can we just call them bibs?
  • 2 0
 Those brown color ones look like them Carhartt coveralls
  • 1 0
 Epic fail. I prefer to air my beer gut out and not have it dripping in sweat.
  • 1 0
 Wait, that is what Henry looks like? Huh. Based on his voice I thought he’d be taller. Must be the overalls.
  • 1 0
 Well if you want to wait a 18 months, the XS and XXL versions will inevitably be on SteepAndCheap clearance for $120.
  • 1 0
 I bought a pair - thought the idea was great. They let water in through the seat on the first ride.
  • 1 0
 500$ for a fking pant? Hahaha hell no. Maybe its 500 because you can disguise as the gardener next door.
Hilarious
  • 1 0
 500 for trousers and half a top! You could buy a full set of fox clothes for less. Including socks.
  • 2 0
 Love the idea but they fucked it at that price point.
  • 1 0
 Given that money is now made of plastic it would probably be cheaper to just sew £5 notes into a pair.
  • 2 0
 These will go well with your $15k Turbo Kenevo.
  • 1 0
 EVERYBODY! Make your own clothes, grow your own food before its too late!!!!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 This with the Shimano spd crocs is what everyone should be running come 22" world champs
  • 2 0
 for $500 i could probably road trip to somewhere dry for the weekend
  • 1 0
 what kind of insane person spends 630 cad on a pair of pants. That would get me like 25 pairs of wranglers!
  • 1 0
 I'm just here to support Henry, your " now that's hell on earth" posing is so moving Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Hahaha 500€, just go get a russian military surplus one for 70 and be happy
  • 1 0
 Aint that the GMB fella that buggered off ? Hairy, Harry, Henry ? somink like that
  • 1 0
 Perfect for my drives to the local trail to find out they're closed due to rain!
  • 3 2
 After those pants you can consider Rapha as inexpensive brand
  • 2 0
 taylor made..?
  • 1 0
 Id buy the overalls for sure. just need that discount code.
  • 2 0
 $500 overalls......
  • 1 0
 He’s a model and he’s looking good… lol
  • 1 0
 Yeah, that's going to be a no from me, dawg.
  • 1 0
 Bet the World Cup DH racers would have taken these at Maribor 2020.
  • 2 0
 April already?
  • 1 0
 perfect for bike editors, finally it looks like you are at work!
  • 1 0
 Where are the Valley Boys - "shit myself have you?"
  • 2 1
 These are objectively fantastic. You guys suck.
  • 1 0
 Gonna get some and change my name to Hop-along Billi-bob
  • 1 0
 Clip on suspenders with rain pants, or 500 bucks for these? Tough choice.
  • 1 0
 POC is the IKEA of MTB.....
  • 1 0
 WTF is the markup at ikea like in the uk?
  • 2 0
 supermario suit
  • 1 0
 Wow April Fools Day jokes are coming early this year! Good one POC!
  • 1 0
 PB Con: "Divisive looks". Priceless notation. Lol.
  • 1 0
 If you wear these you're out of your frickin mind
  • 1 0
 That's close to full Everest snow suit price point. Really?
  • 1 0
 You knows what's really sad..?

People will actually buy theseFrown
  • 1 0
 So like 650 Canadian lmao
  • 1 0
 I would laugh at this more but I survived Trans-Cascadia 2019
  • 1 0
 Pitter-Patter, tit fu*ker.
  • 1 0
 Finally dentist have pants to fit their bikes
  • 1 0
 Sorry these are dungarees. I'm not a children's TV presenter.
  • 1 0
 Well they made fanny packs cool and desirable, only a matter of time :p
  • 1 0
 Holy Osh Godh Be Gosh with the overalls.
  • 1 0
 easily some of the best comments of 2021!
  • 1 0
 ''slightly baggy'' you guys are funny.
  • 2 1
 Ummmm.......
  • 1 0
 Hahahahaahahahahahahh
  • 1 1
 You'll be the biggest tool in town.
  • 1 0
 Dear god….
  • 1 0
 New wave
  • 1 0
 "Here you go, new guy"
  • 1 0
 Absurd. Totally absurd.
  • 1 0
 Two FIDDY Eek youwzza
  • 1 0
 F off POC
  • 1 0
 Henry not happy
  • 1 0
 Hahahahahaha Just no.
  • 1 1
 5 times cheaper and 5 times the quality: www.zephron.ca/pant.html
  • 1 0
 Douchebaggery!

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