Review: Ride Concepts Vice Mid Shoe - Casual Style, Excellent Grip

Mar 4, 2021
by Daniel Sapp  


Last summer, Ride Concepts debuted their Vice flat pedal shoe. The shoe offered a lot of what many riders were after - a good pedal feel coupled with plenty of traction on the pins. The shoe, aimed at the dirt jump, slopestyle, and BMX crowd was a good offering and I was pleased with its performance. If you want to read up more on that offering, check out the review, here.

The Vice Mid carries over a lot of the same technology that the Vice has but in a higher top design, offering some additional support and protection coupled with the same feel and style that doesn't scream, "hey, I'm here to terminate the mountain bike trails" but rather a more subtle look that is a little more cross-activity casual and could fly as a kick around town shoe as well.
Vice Mid Details

• RC Fuzion outsole
• D3O insole, Internal TPU toe protection
• Mid-height, Suede upper
• Colors: Black/White, Charcoal/Black
• Sizes: Men's 7 - 13, half sizes
• Weight: 480 grams (per shoe, size 10)
• MSRP: $120 USD / €130
www.rideconcepts.com

Like the Vice, the Vice Mid utilizes the Ride Concepts Fuzion outsole with a sloped and angled inverse hexagon pattern, with larger hexagons at the toe and heel, allowing the pedal to sink into the outsole and give riders more sensitivity with the pedals. There's the D3O injected insole to help with impacts and fatigue reduction as well.

The shoe is available in US sizes 7-13 and UK 6-12. There are two different color options and it sells for $120 USD.

Ride Concept's hexagons coupled with a DST 6.0 High Grip rubber gives plenty of traction.

Ride Concepts again collaborated with Rubber Kinetics for the sole compound on the Vice Mid which is a new DST 6.0 High Grip rubber. The hexagonal pattern on the sole is inverse, with 9mm hexagons at the toe and heel and smaller 7mm ones in the pedal contact area. The shoe utilizes a suede upper for durability and protection.

Other details include a cup outsole design with 3mm of EVA for extra shock absorption, perforated ventilation for breathability, and Internal TPU toe protection. The tongue is also fully gusseted to keep dirt and other trail debris out. There are perforated holes for ventilation and the shoe is made to be not overly rigid so riders can walk around without feeling as if they're in clogs.

The Vice Mid utilizes the same rubber and sole as the Vice, released last year.


Performance
I have tested a lot of shoes over the last few years and a shoe is only as good as it is durable. I'll say from the start here that the Vice has continued to be a go-to shoe for me and it's held up to my expectations since first finding its way into my test rotation last year. With this, I started in with a positive impression of the Vice Mid.

Fit on the shoe is true to size. While I did ride a 9.5 in the Vice, I sized up to a 10 for the Vice mid...apparently cramming my feet into shoes that are a half size too small has wreaked havoc on the structure of my foot so I'm working on correcting that by testing shoes that are a half size bigger. So far, so good and no ill-effects on performance either.

Comfort is good but I did have an issue with one of the gussets on the tongue of the right shoe giving me an odd pressure point that was uncomfortable. It is most noticeable when the shoe is snugly laced and I don't have as much of an issue when running the laces looser. It is a bit of an anomaly from that one shoe as the left side noticeably is a little less obtrusive when running my hand from one to the other.

The fit on the shoes is similar to some old Five Ten mid-height winter riding shoes I have without quite the heft of the 3M insulation. The shoes are easy to walk in and the style is excellent. I've been wearing the shoes some outside of riding as they just look good and that in my mind is a huge plus.

Traction on the bike is excellent and the shoes lock into the pedals well. I don't feel that I need any more traction and they work just as well riding around town as they do on rough trails. Compared to Five Ten's stealth rubber, as with the Vice, I would say they are very grippy, with plenty of traction, but a lot of that grip comes from the design of the tread and the recessed hexagons working in addition to the rubber, not just the rubber compound itself. That's not to slight the rubber compound in any way, these shoes just work differently. Walking on rocks, they don't have as much grip as the Five Tens.

As far as durability is concerned, I haven't ridden this pair long enough to assess that however, with the standard Vice holding up as well as it has, I have no reason to doubt their integrity.



Pros

+ Great fit, good style
+ Versatile and wearable, excellent grip
+ Great pedal feel
Cons

- Pressure point, could be a one-off issue
- Shoe is likely too soft for some riders
- Limited sizes and colors compared to Vice



Pinkbike's Take

bigquotesThe Vice Mid is an excellent offering and expansion on the Vice from Ride Concepts. The shoes look good and the rubber on the sole performs extremely well. While I had an issue with a pressure point in one of the shoes, I would like to imagine that this is an isolated incident as it was only in one shoe. Given their style and the integrity of the Vice, I feel that the Mid is an excellent choice for riders looking for that extra bit of protection in a shoe that offers up a substantial amount of pedal feel. Daniel Sapp








78 Comments

  • 82 1
 Vans got robbed
  • 21 3
 Not sure why you would spend about twice as much for these versus some Half Cab Pros or Kyle Walkers or whatever. The Vans pro models are excellent on the bike if you find Five Tens too stiff and prefer more pedal feel.
  • 26 9
 @dlxah: Because the Vans fall apart if you look at them wrong. I've had a few Half Cab Pros, and got tired of needing new shoes every 1-3 months. I've had 4 pairs of RC shoes now (including the regular Vice), and 3/4 of them lasted a full year of use almost every day across all types of bikes, digging and casual wearing. The Vice feel the same as Vans on the bike, but they just plain hold up. Plus the D30 insole takes impacts WAY better than any Vans I've had.
  • 9 0
 @leon-forfar: Try some Kyle Walkers. I get like 2-3 seasons (usually 1-3 rides a week including winter) out of my Kyle Walkers. And even 3 seasons in, they don't "fall apart" on me. At that point they're pretty battered looking and the sole is getting worn, so I decide I want a new pair. I could probably get 4+ seasons out of them if I really wanted to push it.

They're made for skateboarding, which is honestly far more abrasive and abusive on shoes than mountain biking. I would actually burn though a pair of shoes in ~3 months when I used to skate. Didn't matter what brand. Repetitively sanding them down on the grip tape and dragging your feet on the asphalt to stop will do that.
  • 3 0
 If I saw a footprint with that sole in the woods, I would instantly think that someone wearing Vans was hiking.
  • 3 1
 @dlxah: I've had the Kyle Walkers too, along with some other Vans models. I have not had a pair of vans go for more than 6 months without the sole around the toe, and on the outside edge separating from the fabric causing my toes or foot to just blow through the shoe. Thoroughly unimpressed with Vans shoes. It's a shame because when they are brand new, they do feel good.
  • 3 0
 @leon-forfar: Well damn! I want to know what you're doing on the bike haha. That's the kind of problem I've only seen from skating when the grip tape literally sands the toe box so thin that it can cause the sole to split off. Almost always long after you already have 1 or 2 gaping holes in the toe box and should have replaced the shoes a month or two ago but you're a broke high schooler and can't afford a new pair of shoes and a new deck every 2-3 months hah. But if that's been your experience, I really can't blame you for switching to another brand. Do what works for you!
  • 1 0
 but the hand strengthening coach was money well spent!
  • 1 0
 @dlxah: I've found tailwhips and any kind of sideloading (coming in sideways from a whip, or cornering hard) to be the biggest killer of the side of the shoes. The worst I had was with a brand new, first ride pair of Vans. I did something like 5-8 tailwhips that session and they had already started separating on the side from catching the tailwhips. Just walking around in them seems to kill them too... When the toe area bends with each step causes the glue or whatever to wear down and eventually the two just come apart.
  • 2 0
 @dlxah: I used to always wear vans but they changed the fit to narrower and they don't fit me anymore. Ride concepts do.
  • 2 0
 I had 5.10, Etnies and now I bought Vans. I gotta say i liked the etnies mid crank the most. They holded up about 1 year (as my only shoes Smile ) and where perfect for riding
  • 27 1
 For some reason I imagine whomever is modeling these has a big red nose and a flower that shoots water.
  • 5 1
 The parachute pants don't help.
  • 1 0
 They look like they are made for babies when you see them with those pants.
  • 27 2
 Pick a vans and be a dick about it
  • 4 1
 I could buy two paris of Old Skool Pros for the same price.
  • 17 1
 Not as grippy-still not as good as Freerider Pros. At least for riders in places where an occasional rock scramble is involved.

Maybe........someday someone will finally make a shoe as good (or better!!) than a 5.10. I guess today isn’t that day.
  • 5 0
 I have a pair of the Vice lows. The grip off the bike, walking on wet rocks/roots, is pretty bad. I went back to 5.10s. I would love to support another shoe brand (not that I have anything against 5.10s, just like more options), but it is sooo hard to find something comparable.
  • 6 3
 @iamalexm @peleton7 The Vice isn't meant to take on Freerider Pros. The Vice go after the skate shoe feel(as mentioned, aimed at DJ, Slopestyle, light trail), but with added benefits for bikes. The Livewire, Powerline etc are their proper MTB shoes. I've been running Powerlines for a few seasons now (coming off Impact VXI and Freerider Pro), and so far the Powerlines are a better overall shoe. The grip is about 90% of the Five Ten, but overall construction/ quality and comfort blows Five Ten out of the water. While they may not grip quite as good as Five Ten, it is enough grip to not think about trying to keep your foot on the pedal while smashing. If they are grippy enough that you aren't worried/thinking about it while riding, they are doing the job fine and have enough grip. I like the ability to slightly adjust my foot on the pedal without having to lift my foot like you do with Five Ten. Personally, I think Five Ten has TOO much grip for a lot of situations.
  • 10 0
 Five tens are just so perfect, I imagine it'll be a while before a true competitor comes out. Plus I love the style of the classic freeriders.
  • 3 0
 @leon-forfar: yep adjusting your foot position on VXi is impossible - so many times I’ve had to ride through a rock garden with odd foot position and wait until things smooth out before repositioning my foot... I think the VXi is five tens most sink in grip ever, so people who have not ridden the model really do not understand.
  • 3 0
 VICE Mid is a totally different type of shoe. We use our 6.0 rubber vs. our softer and more grippy 4.0 as our DJ, slope and freeriders such as Andreu requested some mobility for their type of riding. Want more grip? Stay tuned later this month...
  • 4 0
 RC----I love your mid top shoes with the velcro lace strap. Awesome riding shoes. But what would be more awesome, is this new mid top shoe with the waffle sole AND a velcro lace strap. Now let that marinate, and than make it. Thanks.
  • 8 0
 Three Quarter Cabs
  • 7 0
 Weird week for footwear - $120 'Vans' and clipless scally trainers
  • 5 0
 scally trainers has to be some british term I have never heard. Is it short for scalawag trainers?
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: it's scallYwag *tut*
  • 5 0
 I expect shoelace control for any cycling or sports shoe not just "deal with it" and make more knots. Just dangling around trying to lasso a shrub or rock is just wrong.
  • 1 0
 Are Lock Laces not a thing where you live? Converted my hiking, work & bike shoes to Lock Laces a few years back and wouldn't return to normal laces.
  • 4 0
 @CycleKrieg: buy special laces for the expensive shoes that are not up to the task? I am more concerned about the white trim that will delaminate after some use in in climate weather so ya I will buy 3 pairs of Vans.
  • 1 0
 @CycleKrieg: I agree with @madmon if you are selling it as a cycling shoe it means that there is a chain ring involved somewhere trying to eat those lanes. A simple lace loop is expected especially at that price point.

@RideConcepts And the weird hot spot off the side of the tongue is too many seams stacked on top of each other. Hard for QC to pick that up in final inspection. I have had the same issue with a pair of Vans Mid LTE, which would otherwise be a great winter flat pedal shoe. Warm and water proof and great for fat biking, except for the triple seam grinding a hole into the top of my foot.

Thankfully I own a Footfitters shoe punch so I can punch that seam flat and make the shoe workable.
  • 5 3
 Vans are crap for proper riding but for pissing about they are ok.
Question is why you would want to spend double the cost of Vans for pissing-about-in shoes?

And dirt-jumpers - come on, if your half-decent you spend more time with your feet off the pedals so it hardly matters what you wear! Smile
  • 2 0
 After many years of riding in five tens I tried a pair of Vans bmx pros and have been wearing them since last summer for "proper riding" and I like them just as much as five tens. Not quit as grippy but I actually prefer the feel and haven't had any issues with slipping off the pedals.
  • 4 1
 Honestly I have the new spesh roost shoes and they are the best flat shoe I’ve ever ridden by a mile. The have the grip of five ten and the look relaxed with a suede style upper. Warm, strong, grippy and look good!
  • 2 0
 $120 a pair? Speaking from experience, you could get 5-6 pairs of Etnies on clearance for that. Assuming your pedals have a decent number of pins, you're going to be well attached to your bike.

I don't get the appeal of skate shoes at "proper" cycling shoe price points.
  • 2 0
 Can somebody make a mid-top MTB shoe with an achilles cutout? This was the best feature of the old Lotek mid-top BMX shoes, which weren't far off these Ride Concept shoes in practice. Bunnyhopping with a shoe pressed against your achilles tendon isn't comfortable.
  • 2 0
 Well f--k me. Vans sole on a crappy copy of the old 5.10 Dirtbag.
The Dirtbag was my favorite bike to work/school/bar shoe. Fine on the trails too, and they looked great.
Hey Adidas, if you are reading this, forget the Velosambas & bring back the Dirtbag
  • 8 3
 There's something a bit special needs about that top photo....
  • 2 0
 Shoes look ok. Would be better if the wrap around portion of the sole was a different colour. But those pants so ugly it makes the shoe look way wires I hope that brand is paying Daniel Sapp good money to wear them
  • 1 0
 They are a nice Vans copy, I'd say a much waited improvement that doesn't detract from the style, so something that Vans should have done long ago. But what's up with shoe prices? Shoes must be one of the products with a greater difference between production cost and retail price, which here must be at least 10x. This is not a complicated shoe, even with the 3DO, and just being well executed doesn't (or shoudn't) put them at that price point.
  • 2 0
 White soles and suede uppers. Never, ever. Still waiting for the day that a shoe company entices me to quit Five Ten. Five Ten isn't even that great, and yet nobody can seem to rival them.
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp That pressure point isn't a one off I'm afraid. I have the same thing with my pair of original Vice. Curriously enough, it's only one shoe and not the other as well. I had hoped that it would improve as the shoes broke in, but it hasn't dissipated as much as I'd like.
  • 1 0
 The construction in the toe area and around the tongue is different on the Vice Mid. It helps substantially with the issue you are experiencing on your low top. We believe @danielsapp's pair is a one-off issue with the stitching.
  • 1 0
 Ride Concepts are awesome shoes. These look like they'd be great for street riding.

On another note, there's a lot to be angry about in this world. Why get mad at a company for releasing a shoe that you don't like, or you think looks like another shoe then? MTB'ers can be such spoiled brats sometimes.
  • 3 0
 I'm sure they'll sell a few Van loads of these.
  • 2 0
 They'll skate around any big sales though
  • 3 0
 Wide sizes? Pretty please!
  • 5 2
 A HUNDRED AN HOW MUCH! That's actually like 4 pairs of Etnies......
  • 2 0
 It's unreal how much this shoe screams 'I want to be Vans' and yet looks off somehow? Like Vans has an evil twin.
  • 5 0
 maybe they are trying to look off .. the wall ?
  • 2 0
 @Elgaucher: Damn, I feel so lame for missing that!
  • 3 0
 I don't understand suede uppers on MTB/dirt shoes.
  • 1 0
 Do you ride in wet weather or very hot environments? Because in those conditions, yeah, no suede. If not, suede is nice looking and doesn't seem to look as ratty from impacts. I think stark white and dark black of these actually make them look dirtier than they are. A good moist towel wipe would make them look better, but choosing a different middle range color, like grey or brown would help too.
  • 1 0
 @CycleKrieg: I now live in a very hot environment after moving from a pretty wet one. Looking less beat up from impacts makes sense, but in a pair of shoes I have that are partially suede, the suede always looks dirtier than then non-suede part in my eye. I can just brush the dirt off the non-suede part.
  • 1 0
 @danielsapp, @ride concepts - How do these compare/contrast to the Livewire, besides the obvious ankle protection, sole & lace control differences? THANKS!
  • 4 0
 Hi! VICE offers more pedal feel. If you're riding more rugged trail, Livewire is the way to go with the more aggressive outsole tread pattern, protection and materials, but if you're doing dirt jump, freeride or prefer more pedal feel and a super comfy, casual feel, VICE is the way to go. Hope that helps...
  • 2 0
 @RideConcepts: Thanks! I've actually fallen in love with my Livewires. They are my first RC shoes and won't be my last. Your DST6 sole compound is perfect for me; not so sticky where I have to remove pins and then deal with a weird feel & slick spots on my flats like another brand. A pair of Powerlines is probably my next RC purchase.
  • 1 0
 You know, it's pretty bad that it feels like everyone has given up on going after the Freerider Pros and just makes low-to-mid tier shoes so they don't have to suffer defeat.
  • 1 0
 Stay tuned...
  • 3 1
 Looks like some awesome grip on the bottom. I like the pattern.
  • 2 0
 I’m kinda waffling on these. Anyone else?
  • 2 1
 imagine listening to the footwear opinions of whomever's okay with leaving the house with this lace job...
  • 2 1
 Nice looking shoe! normally RC shoes look like what "cool kids" wear in cartoons.
  • 5 0
 We do enjoy our Saturday morning cartoons...
  • 2 0
 Nah, these look like a pair of airwalks from 1994.
  • 4 0
 The German Grey ones are better. Also, what is wrong with Airwalks from 1994? (Says the guy who graduated high school in 1995.)
  • 1 0
 @CycleKrieg: nothing wrong with em at all, in fact a pair of blue suede 'the ones' live in my greatest shoes of all time list! Just saying they don't look like vans.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a DC from 20 years ago .. just go buy vans if etnies... Nasty looking shoe imo...
  • 2 0
 MIDS!!!!!!!
  • 1 0
 deps!
  • 1 0
 The label has two more functions!
1: Storage space!
2: Tire plug insert!
  • 2 0
 Cute
  • 1 0
 But those white laces gonna look like used toilet paper after one ride?
  • 1 0
 I’ll stick with my Half Cabs for shredding the sidewalk.
  • 2 0
 Just ugly..looks cheap.
  • 1 0
 I will never ever accept advice from anyone who wears pants like those!
  • 1 0
 Vans?

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