Review: Shimano Saint M820 Clipless Pedals

Oct 2, 2018
by Mike Kazimer  
Shimano Saint SPD review

Shimano's Saint gruppo was introduced to the world 15 years ago, but it wasn't until late last year that a clipless pedal was added into the mix. The DX M647 had previously served as Shimano's de facto downhill pedal, but even though the basic design was still sound, that thick plastic body was starting to look dated compared to the thinner options hitting the market. Enter the M820.

The M820 looks (and feels) like it was built to take a beating, with a chromoly spindle, a wide aluminum body that can accept up to four traction pins per side, and a fixed SPD clip-in mechanism. The pedal uses the same cup and cone bearing system found throughout Shimano's lineup, which can easily be adjusted and greased should the need arise. The pedals weigh in at 545 grams, and retail for $160 USD.
Saint M820 Pedal Details
• Four replaceable pins on each side
• Platform dimensions: 99 x 79mm
• Weight: 545 grams
• Chromoly spindle, aluminum platform
• Float: 4-degrees
• MSRP: $160 USD
www.shimano.com


Shimano Saint SPD review
The wide platform provides a big landing pad to aim for when you're trying to clip back in, while its thin 21mm height keeps it from catching on obstacles.
Shimano Saint SPD review
The pedals can accept four pins per side, but I didn't find them to be necessary, and they don't contact the front of the shoe when you're clipped in.


Performance

The M820s have a very solid feel to them, and the 545 gram weight displayed on my scale backed that up. For reference, Crankbrothers' Mallet DH pedals weigh 479 grams, HT's X2 pedals check in at 460 grams, and the tried-and-true XT trail pedals are 408 grams. Of course, we're talking about a pedal that's designed to smack into objects at World Cup race pace and keep functioning – I don't think shaving grams was too high on Shimano's list of priorities.

I'm a fan of that extra-sturdy construction, and I'm also glad there's a fixed, rather than spring-loaded clip-in mechanism. That means there aren't as many moving parts to wear out, which is what you want on something that's going to be dragged through mud and regularly pounded into the ground. The thin body keeps it from snagging on rocks and roots, and even with the extra length and width I didn't find myself hitting obstacles any more often than I typically do with a set of smaller XT pedals.

The M820's wide platform is easy to find underfoot, and clipping in results in a distinct, crisp “click.” As with the rest of Shimano's SPD pedals, the release tension can be adjusted with a 3mm Allen key. I ran my pedals with the tension almost exactly in the middle and didn't have any issues getting in or out, but there was plenty of range to go tighter if I wanted even more security. There's a reason this design is emulated so often – it works extremely well, time and time again.

The design doesn't shed mud quite as well as Crankbrothers' Mallet DH, but unless you're riding in the supper gloppy, sticky clay, it usually only takes a stomp or two to knock the muck off and get clipped in.


Shimano Saint SPD review

Shimano Saint SPD review
Shimano Saint SPD review
A look at how the platform size compares to the sole of a Shimano AM7 shoe, and to an XT pedal.


Is the wider platform noticeable compared to a more 'trail-style' clipless pedal? It really depends on what shoes you're wearing. With a stiffer soled shoe it's not going to make much of a difference, but the beauty of the M820's design is that you can wear slightly softer soled, skate-style shoes and use the wider platform for support when landing off a drop or pushing hard through rougher sections of trail.

What about those pins? Well, I'd say they're more for show than anything, which is often the case with a pedal with a fixed clip-in mechanism. I started off with all four pins installed, but removed the back two because they were hanging up on the sole of my shoes and making it harder to unclip. It is possible to use washers to adjust the pin height, but it was easier to remove them all together. I kept the front two in place, thinking they might provide a little extra traction if I ended up with my foot on the pedal and not clipped in. I didn't notice that ever happening, and I'm sure I'd be fine without them, but the option to have traction pins is there if you want.

Shimano Saint SPD review
Disassembly and service is quick and easy, and the required tool is very inexpensive.


Durability

After a few solid months of use the M820 pedals are spinning just as silky smooth as when I took them out of the box, and there was still plenty of grease when I pulled them apart. There are the expected scuffs and scratches on the body, but they're still looking good considering what they've been through. In my experience, Shimano's clipless pedals tend to be extremely low maintenance, and so far that's the case with this set as well. I'll keep trouncing them through the winter and report back if any issues arise, but I'd be really surprised if anything changed.


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesShimano took their sweet time creating a pedal worthy of wearing the Saint emblem, but it was worth the wait. The M820 is tough and reliable, a solid option for DH and enduro racers, or for anyone looking for a clipless pedal with a wider platform underfoot.  Mike Kazimer








127 Comments

  • 61 0
 Unfortunately I am still riding my 10+ years old DX pedals, so no business for Shimano as long as they last. At least they have made me a loyal customer...I have no reason to ever change brands. I can't believe how much they survived even though pedals are such an exposed component.
  • 13 0
 Me too buddy.If its not broke don't fix it.
  • 25 85
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 4:06) (Below Threshold)
 @nug12182: DX pedals get broken rather fast if you live in a rocky area...
  • 74 3
 @WAKIdesigns: cool story bro
  • 7 2
 @WAKIdesigns: what would you know about it then....
  • 2 0
 Mine DX about 6 years still strong
  • 2 13
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 3, 2018 at 5:49) (Below Threshold)
 @cikudh: the plastic cage om mine died during no more than 6th ride. And I am not the only one around here.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: wow indeed, countless peeps are saying the same as you here Waki....
  • 8 0
 These are awesome. I use them with the older model 5.10 Minaars and they interface perfectly. Already smashed them against all kinds of rocks, roots and trees and they laughed it all off. Wider platform-more support. Although I do agree that the pins do nothing of notice
  • 20 1
 Aren't the pins more for when you are not clipped in but standing on it?
  • 5 0
 @wowbagger: i have my pins maxxed and can feel them when clipped in but they are also rad when you can't clip in before a gnarly section. I'm overly impressed with them
  • 4 0
 Since there's no mention in the article,

I replaced my DMR V Twins with these, and they're just in another league. They just *feel* like a higher quality product all around, especially the cleat engagement.

I use them with no pins, and relatively soft soled FiveTens. Probably going to buy another set for the gravel / commuter bike as well, cause the platform is wide enough to be useable in flip flops.
  • 3 0
 @jpcars10s: I did too, the DMR v-twins sucked compared to these shimanos. I ended up warrantying two sets of DMR due to the terrible clip mechanism. The saints are the best clips I've ever used seemless entry and exit
  • 1 0
 @theraggyone @jpcars10s To follow up on what you say, I've been long time shimano use (multiple sets of XT, DX, 545 and so on) and they've always been really good and durable. Because I find the new Saint heavy and ugly I went to the Nukeproof Horizon DH and even if at first they look really nice and the mecanisim is smooth, after a while the mechanism loose it's retention. Despite having the spring maxed out they still don't hold me well enough but became hard to get clipped in (spring tension. all in all I am trying some Fire-eye Hot clip now but if those don't work as expected I'll have to go to the Saints. Many brands use SPD system but nome manage to do as good as Shimano. And Time/Crank is rubbish as you can't adjust spring tension.
  • 9 1
 RIP arts cyclery the place I have gotten all my shimano pedals for way less than they should have cost. Perhaps why they arn’t around anymore.
  • 9 0
 Still using my red DX 636s from the 90s! Shimano stuff last too long for me to need to upgrade!
  • 7 2
 I'm not seeing any reason why this pedal would be better than the DX pedals. The only thing that matters with these pedals is how easy it is to clip back into them; this was the whole point of the spring-loaded platform. How about a comparison here? Further, the plastic platform does a great job glancing off of rock impacts, why would we want a rigid aluminum platform that will damage easier? DX pedals have been around for a LONG time and for good reason... I highly doubt this pedal will replace them but I am curious to hear a real comparison.
  • 2 0
 Agree. I love the spring loaded mechanism and get massive traction and support with my Hellcats riding DX
  • 1 0
 I had the plastic DX and these were really slippery when wet and unclipped. I ended-up adding spikes but they didn't last very long in plastic. While the spring loaded mechanism may help a little to get clipped in, all my shimano SPD with this mechanism failed in the same way which is the cage nut getting loose and blocking the pedal. Had similar issue on's but never on Deore or XT trails.
  • 1 1
 I've broken every set of DX that i had. The platform on the saints is way better, the clip in mechanism is better, the platform actually supports you clipped in or not, its also not as flexy. The pins are awesome, etc etc etc. Definitely worth it for me
  • 3 2
 @makripper: The actual clip in mechanism is exactly the same. If you're riding not clipped in, you're doing it wrong and is an indication that your setup isn't very easy to clip back into... maybe you should look into that. You should be more concerned that the pins catch your shoe up and make it more difficult to get back in. The platform on the DX breaks, yes, but it takes an impressive amount of damage before this happens. I've busted more of the aluminum cages on shimano pedals but the difference is the entire pedal gets destroyed in the process. I veered away from the DX's for a couple years, but ended up putting them back on after all the newer shimano pedals broke. All my DX's are probably technically "broken", but they still work damn well.
  • 2 4
 @jefe: nope. Its body mounted like xt/xtr isn't seperate from the body of the platform.

Lol DX are crap compared to the new saint pedals. End of story.
  • 6 0
 "Is the M820 worthy of bearing the Saint name?" Hard strike on the headline, now I'm concerned the pun train will go full circle.
  • 8 0
 fun fact: if you don't use the pins you can mount a bottle cage!
  • 4 1
 I'm obviously confused. This article says the "thin 21mm thickness" keeps the pedals from catching on rocks et al; but when I read flat pedal review articles they say a 17mm thickness can contribute to hitting rocks.

Then we have the 175mm vs. 170mm crank length debates re reducing rock strikes.

Beyond that comes the "rotating weight" discussion on wheels, pedals, shoes, et al.

I fear we're trying to count the number of angels on a pinhead and missing the point. Never has so much been written about a subject so narrow. Or so thick and heavy in this case.
  • 11 2
 21 vs 17 is 2mm closer to the ground per side, not enough to make a hard pedal strike into a skimming one. Don't worry about it. DH cranks are 165 in length, the review is for DH pedals. Most people that run Shimano pedals won't use these on trail bikes, mainly for the weight. Again, DH pedals. I want strong and reliable, weight isn't an issue.
  • 5 0
 I’ve been running a pair for a few months and am happy to report that they are a worthy successor to the M647
  • 2 2
 That's a big statement. Call me in 15 years and tell me how they're holding up.
  • 3 1
 Only crappy thing is that for some reason the South African distributor does not bring that little $2 tool in at all. I have ordered one a few times through various bike shops and they just never seem to arrive. If you need to service that pedal in SA I'm afraid you have to use a good old towel and adjustable spanner to get the spindle out.
  • 5 1
 'n Boer maak 'n plan!
  • 2 0
 @Spark24: hahahahaha, so Dutch!
  • 6 0
 I worked in a bike shop from 1995-1999 and we had a handful of those tools just kicking about... and never used one once!
  • 1 0
 you need a small Boa Wrench in your toolbox
  • 2 0
 Have these pedals and love them. Rock solid and reliable. However (as with any clip-in pedals with a platform) make sure to try them on with your shoes first. I have the new 5.10 Hellcat Pros (which I love) but the cleat pocket is just a little too shallow for me to really get any purchase on the platform Frown

This isn't a knock on either product at all, it is just what happened when I bought the new shoes blind.So they work fine, it just doesn't feel any different than a non-platform SPD pedal. However when I use my old Giro terraduros, I get gobs of purchase and support from the platform.
  • 1 0
 I'm currently using these Saint pedals with Giro junction shoes. Before these I was using cageless Shimano spd pedals and I was constantly switching between those and flat pedals so I thought I would give these Saints a try. As far as clipping in and out they feel very similar. They do feel a bit more solid under my shoes because the small platforms on each side of the mechanism contact with the treads on my shoes which run on each side of the cleat. Other than that the cages and pins do not contact my shoes when clipped in. They are solidly built but they don't feel at all like flats with my normal shoes. I can really feel the lumps of the spd mechanism but they are a bit better than riding cageless. Good enough anyways that I don't bother switching to flats when I ride with the family or the BMX track with the kids. I'm missing the flat pedals though.
  • 1 0
 My 2 cents: My foot is rather large and needs shoe in size 46-47 (EUR). When I bought Shimano AM901 and riding it for few months on Time Atac mx4, it was flexing so much, I have to get rid off those pedals and have to buy Mallets and the problem has been solved. Thing is Time Atac MX4 has the same problem as these Saint pedals, where front of the sole has no contact with the platform when clip in. So beware big guys. Buy not so flexy shoes or Mallets.
  • 1 0
 I've been running these all summer ob my trail bike. I switched from Mavic Crossmax shoes to Shimano ME7 this summer and found that the softer sole of the ME7 + XTR trail pedals = sore feet on long downhills. The Saint pedal gives me more platform and less foot pain. I certainly don't notice an increase in weight even if they are bricks in comparison.
  • 4 3
 So if you I already ride with very stiff SPD shoes, then there isn't much/anything to be gained with these Saint pedals?
I really don't get on with mushy shoes, so I'll stick with XT pedals.
Cheers
  • 8 1
 Probably not much when you're clipped in, but a big difference in those moments where you clip out for a split of a second and you need to find the pedal super fast and instinctively in the correct position under your foot.
  • 2 0
 Would they be a good a good first clipless pedal for someone switching from flats? I was considering the Mallet DHs but these seem like a nice alternative.
  • 5 0
 Yes I would say so. If you use them with a flat sole SPD shoe and run them with the release tension low I think you'll get on with them.
  • 6 1
 I am in that position right now (well, for the last month to be more precise) after almost fifteen years on flats. Tried the Saints with both, the standard and multi-release cleats, as well as the Mallet E LS with the standard (15-degree release angle) and recently introduced easy release (10-degree) cleats. For me personally, CrankBrothers with easy release cleats was the best combo to go - natural and easy to clip in, extremely easy to clip out (much easier than with Shimano in both cases in my opinion) and still perfectly secured when I want with a nice amount of free float. Never get accidentally unclipped so far. The only thing I would do differently is buying the Mallet DH instead of the smaller E LS due to the extra grip when I need to unclip in the technical section and not able to clip back in as quickly as I would like. That's my two cents.
  • 1 0
 I had the 636 pedals before and I used to flip flip between those and the Rob Warner clipless pedals with no worries. It's a great binding mechanism if your knees get on with it
  • 1 0
 They definitely are great for a beginner.
I suggest pairing them with Mavic Deemax shoes. They are a perfect match for each other and with the Mavics you actually have a decent stance on the pedals in the rare event you do not get clicked in first try.
I´ve tried mine with release tension as low as possible and they still did not release accidentally, so they are great to start out with because clipping in is easy and you can simply adjust tension as you get more comfortable on the clicks.
  • 1 0
 Clipless is easy. My first time riding clips with with crappy 424s at the silverstar bikepark. these and am7 shoes and you are good to go!
  • 1 0
 @jaame: As a 20 year user of 636s, I salute you. Now get rid of those rediculous tanks and get something modern. I recently switched (Nukeproof Horizon) and have no love lost, but strangely, I did lose around half a pound of pedal weight.
  • 2 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: Sorry I meant the Rob Warner flats not clipless. These days I flip flop between mallet dh and spank spikes on my mountain bike. Looking at switching to mallet e but haven't seen them on good enough of a discount yet!
  • 1 0
 Mallets will feel just like flats but clipped in. You don’t get the shimano standing on ice feeling with mallets!
  • 1 0
 @mikelee: I've never felt like I'm on ice with Shimano. I'm a clipped all the time guy for the past couple seasons and I love them. They just work for some of us i guess.
  • 1 0
 @makripper: the ice feeling is from the metal cleat on a metal pedal. So the foot doesn’t feel set like a flat pedal. Crank brothers pedals feel set as the shoe makes full contact with the cage so you don’t get that metal on metal feeling which people say feels like ice. This is especially noticeable on dh runs where you feel the foot sliding around. This is why I’d imagine pretty much all dh pros use mallet dh pedals if they have a choice. The athertons used mallets even whilst being sponsored by shimano for years. I can ride either but the mallets feel better imo
  • 1 0
 @mikelee:
That's just down to the shoe and pedal combination though. My Terraduros and Saints kinda felt like that. The Saints with Mavic Deemax are a perfect fit and feel like flats. I can't even use the pins or they'd feel too locked in.
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: it’s because shimano pedals are convex where as crankbrothers are concave. So shimano platforms are going away from the shoe. It’s the way shimano do it and always have. Some people are just fine with it but I prefer my whole shoe to be on the platform like a flat. Crankbrothers are the only pedal that offer this imo and I’ve tried them all over the years. My brother has the new saints,I’ve tried them and they still too ice feeling for me. Nice pedals though.
  • 1 0
 @mikelee: your setup must be whack. My setup feels like I'm on flats. Tons of grip and locked in clipped in or not.
  • 1 0
 @makripper:
Yeah, absolutely. As i said i couldn´t even ride them with the pins in, as i wasn´t able to unclip anymore. The shoes were locked against the pedal, no movement. Took me quite a while to get them umstuck. I don´t know how one would feel like on ice on them.
It´s just down to the pedal-shoe combination, plain and simple.
They were not all made for each other, which is also the reason why some manufacturers have started to add spacers to their pedals (CB are one of them i believe).
  • 1 0
 @Loki87: wierd. What shoes? My am9 with no pin shims is awesome! Perfect amount of grip and still super easy to get out of. Mid tension. The pins are adjustable via shims
  • 1 0
 @makripper:
Mavic deemax.
I just ride them without pins and they're perfect. It's just a 100% fit between pedal and shoe,so no pins needed.
  • 7 7
 Only 4 degrees Float?? Come on! I actually prefer the Shimano "Click system" over the Crank Brothers (the cleat is way cheaper and you can install the tension of eject) , but when your foot is looked in that way, and you have no flexibility in your ankel to twist it does not matter. Make more float! Make more float!
  • 24 4
 Crank brothers cleats are terrible in terms of wear life!
  • 16 36
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 4:07) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame: Shimano pedals are terrible in terms of float. Whatever suits people.
  • 14 6
 The amount of float is also very much contigent on pedal tension as well.
  • 16 24
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 5:28) (Below Threshold)
 @neologisticzand: erm... no. Once you pass the edge the cleat is on the way to clip out. You have to be nuts to ride Shimanos anywhere below 70% of tension. At least in rocky areas. I clipped out unintentially a dozen of times in them. In most cases while cornering. On Crankbros and Times I always lay within float zone when cornering/ styling in the air. In Shimanos I get my cleat against the edge of the float all the time. And then it goes CLIckh....
  • 4 1
 No worries, @jesdabelsteen. Just upgrade to the proper Saint pedals that have infinitely adjustable float!

bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/saint-m820/PD-M828.html
  • 30 2
 @WAKIdesigns: I’ve always laughed at how your comments are emblematic of your lack of ability, and you’ve brought a smile to my face once again.

Thanks friend
  • 6 22
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 7:44) (Below Threshold)
 @nvranka: Oh yes, tell me more how all the people on Times and Crankbros are wrong.
  • 9 23
flag WAKIdesigns (Oct 2, 2018 at 7:47) (Below Threshold)
 @nvranka: also since you have never ridden with me, you can clip a pineapple up your cleat.
  • 8 0
 i've never had issues with the float on my xt trail pedals. i live in the rocky mountains so it can be rocky and i have strava on my phone so clearly i'm not bad at riding.
  • 8 1
 I hate float. That's my main reason for riding Shimano clipless for the last 30 years or so, despite a brief foray into Time and CB Mallets (yuck!). I want even less than four degrees. I like my pedals to feel as solid as ski bindings. No to float! No to float!
  • 1 0
 adding on...i have never tried this (4* is perfect for me), but i have heard of people using the nukeproof cleat with 8* float on shimano pedals. the concept of no float personally blows my mind but crankbrothers could work or even better, some shimano road pedals!
  • 3 2
 You really need to be banned from this site. @WAKIdesigns:
  • 5 5
 I only said some people like float and Shimanos offer very little float... got into a crossfire from Shimano fanbois who cannot cope with the fact that someone may not like their pedals. Like good old days when one couldn't say a single word other than ball sucking praise when it came to Shimano XT brakes...
  • 1 1
 Float and clipping out has more to do with a person's individual physiology of the hip, knee and ankle.
  • 3 0
 Saint anything rocks. It's not the lightest but you know it will perform great and last a long time.
  • 1 0
 I know a buddy of mine still rocking his Hone crankset. Been on 12 bikes for 8 years and still using the same cranks
  • 1 1
 @mikekazimer in that case it would have been more logical and a damn sight sexier to have called them strapless pedals.... actually, l think I'll shove my strapless pedals right up the geezer who called em clipless and stick to me flats. Smile
  • 2 0
 I gave them a shot. Didn't like the added float, plus the traction pins don't even come close to my shoes (2Fo laces). Prefer my DXs so I gave these away to a colleague.
  • 2 0
 I'd argue the pins would help you relocate your foot into the clip if the pedal was at a jaunty angle or caked in mud.
  • 2 0
 The pins feel greats and add extra security with the am7 shoes. I maxxed my pins. Ie. No pin spacers
  • 2 3
 Incredibly heavy. Other than wheels & tires, and cassette, the swing weight of your pedals is one of the most important places to save weight. XTR Trail pedals weigh 380 grams and are uber reliable. Saints are for chairlifts and tailgate pads. Solid AF but equally heavy.
  • 2 1
 They’re DH pedals for DH bikes. Of course you’ll find them on chairlifts and shuttle wagons.
  • 2 1
 @OllyHodgson: I see many people pedalling these hammers around these parts.
  • 1 0
 Careful shoe selection increases utility of the pins, I’m going to try some five ten clipless shoes to see if they are better than the stiffer giro shoes I have now.
  • 1 0
 And I have brand new XT trails sitting in my bedroom that I might need to get rid of now.. lmao. I guess I've been under a rock for awhile, forgive me.
  • 1 0
 Good review. Never tried Shimano’s SPD pedals, always been a Crank Bro fan, but these look promising and may be my next pair
  • 6 8
 The M530 is just as indestructible and cost a fraction, 455grams for $33 on CRC or Jenson. I use it on all my bikes from DH to road bike. If shimano would only come up with a wider platform for the M530, that would be a killer!
  • 43 0
 They do, its called the Saint Pedal.
  • 1 1
 I hear yah. Its just too much coin. If they can use similar contruction method and materials to the M530 to bring down the price, that would be the killer i was talking about. Willing to pay $60 but not $160 type of deal.
  • 1 0
 @mountguitars: I looked at these when it was time to ditch my "never going to break so I might as well get something new" 636s. I ended up with the Nukeproof Horizon clipless. Low profile, less weight, and only $80 at CRC. The clip in mechanism isn't quite as defined and crisp as Shimano, but they have been great pedals so far and eliminated my desire to go with a 170 crank due to pedal strikes.
  • 1 0
 @Poulsbojohnny: Thanks for bringing that up. I have a riding buddy who mentioned buying a pair of those Nukeproof Horizons. I haven't met up with him, would like to give it a try. Its good know there are other alternatives other than Shimano but they are so good with clipless pedals, at times I find it hard to try other brands. been using shimano pedals for over 10 years with either M520's or M540's before M530's came along and having tried crankbros egg beaters where I have broken 2 in less than a year, I was programmed to just stick with shimano pedals for my entire biking life. But who knows? Will give those nukeproofs a demo ride. at $80, sure looks like a good deal.
  • 1 0
 I'm probably being dim, but how is the clip-in mechanism 'fixed, rather than spring loaded'? I can see the spring.
  • 5 0
 On earlier versions the spd mechanism floated within the pedal cage and that was controlled by a spring on the axle. On the trail pedals and these the spd mechanism is screwed to the pedal cage so fixed. The spring you can see is the one that controls the rear tension on the actual spd mechanism that moves as the cleat clips in and out
  • 5 0
 What the author is trying to say that clip-in mechanism can't rotate around spindle (M647 can), but is fixed to platform instead
  • 2 0
 On the old version, just imagine an outer cage that rotates around an entire spd pedal. They’re talking about two springs - one for the cleat release and one for the outer cage to rotate around the pedal.
  • 1 0
 I got these off Amazon for 100 about 3 months ago and I love them, they are perfect for all the rocky trails in Texas.
  • 4 3
 Love when i see Shimano pedals on sram cranks.
  • 14 0
 You need to get out more.
  • 4 7
 I ordered a set of these off of CRC for myself and a set of DX's for my wife. CRC's delivery contract is with DHL who require a signature. We weren't going to be home for a couple hours the day the delivery was scheduled so I used DHL's online signature system.

We were home a couple hours afterwards and the pedals weren't there. We talked to our neighbors and they saw nothing. DHL "investigated" and said their system logged it as delivered so they were delivered. CRC said since DHL is claiming they were delivered they couldn't do anything for me regarding a replacement. So my wife and I just had to swallow the loss of both pedal sets.

We live in a really nice neighborhood and do frequent online shopping, we've had packages sit on our porch for days before with no issues. Moral of the story, never authorize delivery with an online signature! You apparently waive all your rights.

That felt good to type out, still bummed about this.
  • 1 0
 Time pedals feel better than Shimanos in my experience.
  • 1 0
 $99.00 bucks on eBay.
  • 4 5
 Looks ok but 550g Pedals for 160$??
  • 28 1
 >nolimit
They're DH pedals bud, not XC.
They're built to provide a platform to bounce/launch/land on, and also get the shit beat out of them and still function.
And you'll notice the manufacturer is Shimano. They prolly took 6 years to develop and 4 years to test, and they'll likely be right alongside the cockroach as the only two things on the planet that will survive a nuclear war
  • 3 17
flag muyguapa (Oct 2, 2018 at 1:37) (Below Threshold)
 @YoKev: How's that Kool-Aid taste? They're clipless pedals, the same as any other being made by any number of pedal manufacturers. HT, being one example, does theirs at a lighter weight for a cheaper price.
  • 7 1
 1) If you find it heavy, you can get the XT
2) For downhill disciplines it is not important if you have a few grams extra on the pedals. The added weight is even below the centre of gravity of the bike
3)If it means that they're more reliable and impact resistant It's an advantage.
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flag nolimit (Oct 2, 2018 at 3:48) (Below Threshold)
 @IluvRIDING:

Then let‘s say it different...
More weight = less machining = less work = less money... so why do they cost so much then? Wink

There‘s no XT DH Pedal...
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 @nolimit: on the brightside, you can always find Shimano pedals for significantly less than retail. I just did a quick search and found Saint pedals for $99 USD, rather than $160 retail. Heck, I bought the newest XTR pedals and didn't even pay full price despite them being so newly released.
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 $119 on Amazon
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 I got mine for 90 something on CRC.
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 @muyguapa: Completely disagree. I work in the industry and have tried everything out there. Since you mention HT...they sent me multiple pairs. All failed within one month. Supposedly they "fixed" the bearing issues. We have 8 pairs of DXs and several XTs on our team enduro and DH bikes. I service them twice a year and have never had a failure for 4 seasons. I'm no Shimano fan boy fwiw. As a matter of fact the only products I will run are SP41 housing and their pedals due to the superior quality. They constantly screw over bike shops with their pricing structure. Then customers come in and bitch because shops can't sell them for the same price that is listed on CRC, Jenson etc.
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