Review: Specialized Turbo Kenevo Expert - An Electrified Freeride Machine

Jan 20, 2020
by Ralf Hauser  



After the massive update the Turbo Levo FSR received about a year ago, it was just a matter of time before the Kenevo ended up with those same improvements, and more.

Bigger is better. Longer apparently as well. Apart from the travel, which remains at 180 mm and 27.5” wheels front and rear, the new Specialized Kenevo has new geometry, new suspension kinematics, a new motor and battery, and plenty of other features designed to take the motorized big-hitter to the next level.

However you want to classify it, the Turbo Kenevo wants you to skip the shuttle to ride to the top on your own, and is happiest in bike parks or on rowdy trails with lots of man-made jumps and drops.

Turbo Kenevo Expert

Travel: 180mm
Wheel size: 27.5"
Frame construction: M5 aluminum
Head angle: 64-degrees
Motor: Specialized 2.1, 700WH battery
Sizes: S2 to S5
Colors: Black/black, sage green/spruce
Weight: 52.45 lb / 23.84 kg (verified)
Price: $8,225 USD (€6,899)
More info: www.specialized.com
The Turbo Kenevo Expert is equipped with a dual crown fork, the RockShox Boxxer Select RC, RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Select + rear shock, SRAM 11-speed GX derailleur with S700 single-click shifter, 700Wh battery and comes with a price tag of $8,225 USD (€6,899). For those looking for more versatility, the Elite is a single crown version with Marzocchi Z1 fork and Bomber CR rear shock, featuring a smaller 500Wh battery and similar parts spec for $5,525 USD (€5,499).

bigquotesOne of the biggest ‘challenges’ I found I had to deal with is that the 2020 Kenevo kept asking for higher speeds, always staying composed with its dialed geometry and soaking up your regular obstacles with ease, shooting me into corners or trail exits with a bit too much enthusiasm..." Ralf Hauser









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Construction and Features / Motor Details

Like its predecessor, the Turbo Kenevo is only available in an aluminum version. The new frame is 2.2 pounds lighter than before, a weight reduction that was accomplished in large part by removing the carrier that was necessary to hold the old motor in place. The latest Specialized 2.1 motor saves another 400 g in weight and 15% in size over the 1.3 model.

With the addition of a sidearm on the righthand side of the shock, the distance of the shock mounts remains constant under all loads and generally adds stiffness to the frame, enhancing its tracking ability. Plus, locating the rocker link directly on the sides of the seat tube further adds stiffness to the package. A nice side effect of the frame's new sidearm is the ability to route all cables through it and the top tube, allowing for a reduction of the down tube circumference, giving the frame a sleeker silhouette. Cables are held in place by clamps on the inside of the sidearm.

An insert at the motor cover has been added to keep dirt out, and an extra plastic cover between the chainstays and main frame also makes sure that no debris can damage the moving parts and enter the motor cover from that direction.

Yes, there’s room for a water bottle in the main triangle. It comes close to the piggyback reservoir of the rear shock, but fits nonetheless. Because of the battery being housed inside the down tube, there is no room for a SWAT box in the frame, but a multi-tool underneath the bottle cage and an extra tool underneath the steerer top cap cover the basics.

Specialized recommends a maximum rear tire size of 27.5 x 2.8”, but the Kenevo would be capable of fitting up to 3” wide tires, if you’re willing to accept less clearance between tire and frame.


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Stiffer chassis, thanks to the extra sidearm. A water bottle clears the piggyback reservoir.
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Cables are held in place on the inside by clamps.

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An extra cover keeps damaging debris away from the chainstay/main frame intersection.
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Plenty of tire clearance with a 2.6" wide model.

Specialized is using the hardware components of the magnesium-housed Brose Drive S Mag motor, which they incidentally have developed in close partnership with the manufacturer. The electronics, motherboard, and software were been engineered by Specialized at their Turbo Innovation Center in Switzerland. As a whole, Specialized dubs it the Specialized 2.1 Rx Trail-tuned motor. It amplifies rider input up to 410 percent at 250 watts nominal power (up to 560 watts peak power) and 90Nm of torque.

Apart from the Specialized 700Wh M2-series custom battery that the Kenevo Expert comes with, a 500Wh battery is also available. Both use the same amount of cells, but different types, with the larger battery extending your bike’s range by about 40%. The 700Wh battery uses the 21700 type, weighing in a 3,840g, and the 500Wh model uses 18650 cells and is said to weigh 750 grams less. It’s possible to swap between both batteries.

Fully charging the 700Wh battery takes about six hours. The built-in Battery Management System (BMS) regulates battery health and protects it from overcharging (or under voltage). The battery can be removed from the bike by loosening a large Allen bolt at the downside of the top tube and pulling the battery out of the down tube at the bottom bracket area. The charging port sits directly at the downside of the battery, close to the bottom bracket and can be accessed while remaining in the bike by removing the magnetic connector cable that forms the link to the motor. The battery itself is also equipped with an expander leaf spring at the top to keep it from rattling inside the frame. An integrated rock guard at the bottom area also features a recess, acting as a small handle, to make it easier to carry the battery around when pulled out of the bike.

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The Turbo Connect Unit delivers the most basic ride info.
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A Turbo Connect Display with detailed info is available aftermarket.

Integrated into the upper side of the top tube is the so-called Turbo Connect Unit (TCU) - basically the brain of the bike - which gives you information about the motor-assist level being used via three circular LEDs, as well as showing the remaining battery level in ten-percent steps. It also acts as the on/off switch for the bike. It can interact with other devices via Bluetooth or ANT+. Also, it can be removed rather easily to give access to a diagnostics port, allowing shops to read out various information with specific Specialized software. The Bluetooth connection code that’s needed to connect the bike to Mission Control is also printed on the unit, in case you don’t have your booklet with all serial numbers present.

Those asking for more info than what the Turbo Connect Unit can provide can get a Turbo Connect Display (TCD) handlebar display aftermarket for $90 USD (€89). It can link to the bike to give you basic information like speed, distance or time, but also enhanced info like power input from the rider or battery level in percent. It comes with two display mounts with different lengths for your preferred placement, sharing the same connection as Garmin devices.

A small handlebar remote can be located next to the grip, offering plus and minus labeled buttons to cycle through the modes as well as a walk assist button at the bottom. An extra button with the Specialized S symbol on the opposite side activates Turbo mode from whatever mode you're in - possibly coming in handy in a situation where you need it quickly.


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The magnetic connection cable between motor and battery...
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...reveals the loading port on the battery when disconnected.

Mission Control App

The Mission Control app is a crucial part to customizing your ride and is available for iOS and Android devices. You don’t really need to activate it for the bike to work fine, as the stock setup will make most people happy. But if you like to tinker, this is the tool to have.

Apart from diagnostics information, the app gives you the opportunity to alter Support and Peak Power for Eco, Trail and Turbo modes separately, as well as adjusting Acceleration Response and Shuttle settings spanning all modes. The default setting for Eco mode is 35% for Support and 35% for Peak Power, Trail at 35%/100% and Turbo at 100%/100%, with Acceleration Response set at 40% and Shuttle sitting at 0%. You can save different custom presets that you can activate at a push of a button.

Support equals the multiplier of rider power added by the motor. Peak Power is the maximum electrical power available to supply the motor. Acceleration Response adjusts if the motor responds quicker or slower to rider input. The lower the level, the smoother the power transfer to the rear wheel and less strain on shifting. The Shuttle feature gives you maximum power output with less required pedaling force. The higher the setting for Shuttle mode is, the easier it is to get full motor power in your selected mode. The default settings for Shuttle is zero, and it requires a bit more battery power the higher it is set.

Apart from all that, the Mission Control app actually features a mapping system that can record all of your rides and upload them to Strava afterward. With Smart Control, a feature implemented not too long ago, you can set a duration and/or distance you’d like to ride and your Turbo Kenevo will automatically regulate the power output for you through a smart algorithm that’s seamlessly operating at all times.

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Mission Control is the way to truly customize your motor management.

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Geometry & Sizing

Specialized has adopted its new sizing system ranging from S2 to S5, rather than S to XL. The 2020 Kenevo has also grown in length considerably (almost two sizes up from the old Kenevo), featuring a reach of 445mm for its smallest size and going up all the way to 520mm for the largest version. Naturally, the wheelbase has gone up in length also, with the chainstays sitting at 454mm.

With shorter seat tube lengths on all sizes and a steeper seat angle, which now sits at 77 degrees, even smaller riders now have the option to choose their ride rather by reach preference and not only by what their inseam dictates them to fit on. At the same time, the steeper seat angle also shortens the effective top tube length considerably, so make sure to grab a frame size that not only feels right in terms of reach, but effective top tube length also, in combination with a stem length that balances your sitting position to where you feel most comfortable.

The head angle comes in at 64-degrees. By turning a stainless steel flip-chip insert at the lower shock mount, all angles can be steepened by 0.5 degrees, also lifting the bottom bracket height by 6 to 8mm. A fork with regular 42mm offset is used. A custom chainguide is mounted to one of the bolts holding the motor. It can be flipped up to get quick access to the chain.

Size S2 comes with a 130mm dropper post, and S3 to S5 have posts with 160mm of drop. The seat tube diameter is 34.9mm, a dimension that's becoming increasingly common.

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Suspension Design


It wouldn’t be a Specialized without an FSR link at the dropout, decoupling braking forces from the suspension movement and altering the axle path of the rear end. While the Kenevo can’t share a similar linkage configuration as the new Demo or Enduro because of the engine taking up too much space, Specialized revised its kinematics for more bottom-out resistance and capability in the rough. Its leverage ratio is slightly more progressive than the old Kenevo, with bottom-out control sitting between the old Kenevo and new Enduro.

The rear wheel axle path now moves in a slightly more rearward-angled trajectory to enhance its rollover capabilities and not hang up on square-edged bumps as easily. The 2020 Kenevo uses a metric 230 x 62.5mm shock length, resulting in an average leverage ratio of 2.88:1.


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Specifications

Specifications
Price $8225
Travel 180mm
Rear Shock RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Select, 62.5x230mm
Fork RockShox Boxxer Select RC
Cassette SRAM PG-1130, 11-speed, 11-42t
Rear Derailleur SRAM GX 11-speed
Chain KMC X11ET
Shifter Pods SRAM S700, single-click lever
Handlebar Specialized, 7050 alloy, 27mm rise, 800mm width
Stem Specialized Direct Mount DH Stem, 45mm
Grips Specialized Sip grip
Brakes SRAM Code R
Hubs DT Swiss 370
Rim Roval 27.5" Alloy DH
Tires Butcher, BLCK DMND casing, 2Bliss Ready, 27.5 x 2.6"
Seat Body Geometry Henge Comp
Seatpost Command Post IRcc, 34.9mm, S: 130mm, M/L/XL: 160mm

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Test Bike Setup

I'm happiest riding bikes featuring plenty of travel, and if I could only ride one bike one with 180mm would be my choice. I had the option of going with either size S2 or S3 for my 168cm (5'6") height, and ending up picking the longer of the two models.

There are plenty of coil shock fans out there, but in terms of setup they can be more of a hassle. For my low rider weight of 121 lb (55kg), I started with a 450 lb spring. That still only put me at a sag of 25%. I ended up getting a 300 lb spring as well, which put me at 35% sag. I had to fully open up the rebound-adjustment of the rear shock, which still felt on the slow side for my weight, but didn’t turn out to be problematic.

I did run the fork slightly below its recommended air pressure settings for some added sensitivity without experiencing any issues with harsh bottom-outs. Compression was fully open, and rebound twelve clicks from fully open.

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Ralf Hauser
Age: 41
Location: Vienna, Austria
Height: 5'6” (168cm)
Weight: 121lbs./55kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @ralfhauser

When picking a longer size frame, I usually ride with a stem as short as possible, between 30 to 35mm in length. With a dual crown fork, that length is limited to a minimum of 45mm, otherwise the bar touches the extensions of the fork’s uppers. Due to the added height of the dual crown setup I ended up mounting a downhill flat bar to lower the front by about 15mm. It might not sound like much, but it made a difference, and allowed me to put more pressure on the front wheel and get into the riding position that I was looking for.

I was mostly riding the bike on natural technical rooty trails around Vienna, Austria, with some decent drops, jumps and steep chutes thrown in for good measure. I also gave my brother - who's basically a carbon copy of myself - time on the bike for some added feedback. A trip to the small bike park in Kalnica, Slovakia, with some bigger-sized jumps and drops, acted as proving ground for its big-hit capabilities.


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Climbing

Having a dual crown fork up front on a bike that can climb is somewhat of a polarizing feature. In terms of perception, seeing a dual crown fork on mellow trails is simply overkill. The Expert caters to the rider that lives in an area without chairlifts and would usually have to rely on a shuttle rig to get to some gnarly downhills, although technically the Kenevo could also make having to pay for a chairlift obsolete. That being said, once you hop on the Kenevo, it’s actually easy to forget that you’re running a massive fork up front. With the RockShox Boxxer Select RC lowered to 180 mm of travel, rather than the 200 mm it usually comes with, its ride height equals that of a single crown model with equal travel.

The RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Select + features a lever at the reservoir to activate a fully open or threshold position. While the threshold setting isn’t a full lockout, it comes pretty close, stiffening up the rear end drastically. To be honest, except for trying it once on a fire road climb, I never used it at all. Overall, the extra travel of the bike doesn’t seem to affect it in a negative way, even on most climbs. Maybe in technical situations where you have to finesse up a rock slab does the bike push more into the travel, but with motorized support, pedaling efficiency based on travel plays a tangential role. I for one just enjoy the bump-eating capability on smooth or rough climbs alike, without the bike wallowing with each pedal stroke thanks to its suspension design.

The steep 77-degree seat angle does the trick in terms of pedaling efficiency, and if you think it doesn’t matter on an e-bike, think again. Especially on long days in the saddle, something that the 700Wh battery is able to provide you with, getting situated on the bike comfortably is important. Thanks to the powerful motor, running a gearing of 32-42 as the highest gear really isn’t an issue. Only in stupid steep technical riding sections did I sometimes wonder if a higher ratio would have made the difference of making it up or not if I failed. And if I did, it wasn’t because of the bike’s geometry, the front end is solidly sticking to the ground when it gets steeper.

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Behind the protective cover sits Specialized's 2.1 motor with Brose Mag hardware.
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Minimalistic handlebar remote for mode selection and walk mode.

Motor & Battery Performance

Power is nothing without control, and Specialized has mastered the art of squeezing the best possible performance out of the motor hardware. In their stock setup, each mode and power transfer from the motor interacts with your pedaling input smoothly and provides a natural pedaling feeling. Translating energy to the wheels becomes second nature and is highly controllable, even at very low speed. There are no awkward lags or surges in power. It’s even rather easy to get moving from a standstill on a steep climb. Engagement and cut-out of the motor support feels seamless and is really hard to notice. It’s great how quietly the motor performs in each setting. Its low hum allows you to sneak up on other riders and is unobtrusive in a larger riding group, compared to some competitors that give you away from afar. In combination with the sleek appearance of the frame, the bike could easily be mistaken for a regular ride not just from a distance, but even at first glance from closer up.

I ended up riding in Turbo mode (without Shuttle) for longer periods of time more often than usual, thanks to the big tank of the 700Wh battery and (in this case) luckily not weighing too much myself. From what I’ve seen in the past, a rider with a weight of 165 to 176 lb usually requires 20 to 25% more battery power than myself under the same riding conditions. By just riding in Turbo mode all the time I was able to ride for 5,900 to 6,550 feet of altitude on a single charge, depending on the terrain. Mixing it up with Trail and Eco of course took me beyond that, but concluding how far you can really get is dependent on so many different factors, that you’ll have to discover the limits of the Kenevo in your preferred riding area on your own. A helpful alternative is checking out the new Turbo Range Calculator on their website that gives you a pretty good idea of how far you can get. According to their calculation, a 5'11'' rider weighing 165 lb should get up to 6,380 feet of elevation and a distance of 22 miles at an average speed of 12 mph in mountainous terrain, riding in Trail mode.

Let’s just say that the Kenevo’s reach with 700Wh battery is ample, and that I never want to go back to more limiting setups. I am one of those riders that doesn’t think that carrying an extra 500Wh battery in your backpack on long days is a great option. And with Mission Control’s Smart Control feature, once you set pointers like distance or time, the app regulates your choice of support mode on its own, constantly recalculating different factors of the terrain ridden and battery used to get you safely to your goal. Neat. When only 20% of battery is left in the tank, the bike does not activate the Turbo setting anymore, trying to extend the range. While this is a nice feature for people perhaps not paying attention on their ride, it does force a lower setting onto you, even if you have a ride perfectly planned out. It would be nice to make this feature optional in Mission Control.


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Descending

Coming back to the 2020 Kenevo’s geometry, it’s a real winner in my book. If you like to ride fast, feel safe, and not get the feeling that your bike is the limiting factor on your downhill run, then it’s hard to return to shorter bikes once you’ve committed to the longer setups. And, contrary to some belief, smaller riders can benefit from this geometry as well. With steeper seat angles, shortening the effective top tube length dramatically, I am now able to ride bikes that are two sizes up from what I was used to. Or, to make a far-fetched comparison to the car industry, I am now able to ride a Porsche, and not just a Mini John Cooper Works. Not that the Mini isn’t a hell of a lot of fun to slide around the corners and get out of control in, but it’s still never going to beat the longer wheelbase of a Porsche in terms of stability and control at speed.

Add to that a slack 64-degree head angle and a really low bottom bracket - my measuring tape says it’s 335mm, rather than 345mm from the chart - and the new Kenevo is just asking to slay loose corners, rooty off-camber sections and washed out berms. That is, after having lowered the handlebar somewhat in my case. I did hit my pedals a bit more often than I’m used to - mostly because I was pedaling in sections with motor assist where I usually wouldn't or couldn't - but I wouldn’t want to give up the planted cornering feeling a low center of gravity provides.

In that regard, surprisingly, the Kenevo doesn’t feel like a tanker when cornering at all. Nimble and playful might not be the best words to describe it, but it’s rather quick and responsive at translating input from the rider. The smaller 27.5” wheels even make it pretty easy to flick the rear end hard into corners and allow more clearance between your body and rear tire down steep chutes. Personally, I feel that the chainstays with a length of 454mm are a great match for a reach between 450 to 470mm (obviously, I cannot speak for larger frame sizes), giving a bike a balanced feel sitting nicely centered and allowing you to put even pressure on the front and rear end alike, aiding your traction in every thinkable scenario.

When it comes to acceleration, the overall weight of the bike becomes noticeable when pushing past the 20mph (or 25km/h in Europe) of motor support down the hill or in the flats. Especially when trying to pick up speed before bigger jumps, it becomes apparent that you have to put in an effort. On the other hand, with the gearing of 32 to 11 as the lowest possible combination, you run out of steam rather soon. This is where a setup with twelve gears and a wider spread would be noticeably superior, but it’s not the end of the world and most likely not a deciding factor to affect your overall impression much. Back to weight, it’s interesting to note that even at about 24kg with pedals, the Kenevo doesn’t have a huge tendency to push into corners. Somehow, the people at Specialized have found a way to create an overall balance that heavily aids the overall handling of the bike. I have ridden a lot of bikes in this weight class that feel inherently different when it comes to steep chutes or braking hard into tight turns. Of course, the Kenevo is harder to stop than some lighter e-bikes out there, but it does so in a controlled manner.

One of the biggest ‘challenges’ I found I had to deal with is that the 2020 Kenevo kept asking for higher speeds, always staying composed with its dialed geometry and soaking up your regular obstacles with ease - probably the extra rearward axle path trajectory aiding the suspension - shooting me into corners or trail exits with a bit too much enthusiasm, sometimes to the point of exiting a trail with a silly laugh and asking myself how I was able to ride that one out without crashing.

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Setting up the Kenevo can be a little trickier for riders that are between spring rates.

When comparing the leverage curve of the new Enduro to that of the new Kenevo, unfortunately the last part of the travel still takes a dip in progression. That’s exactly the part where you would ask for support from the suspension to not bottom out harshly when encountering a hard hit. The leverage curve looks better than that of the last iteration of the Kenevo, but in the end, if the 2020 Kenevo with RockShox coil shock is setup with a sag of 35 percent, it’s rather easy to bottom out the rear end at every medium-sized drop and harder compression. Only with a spring that lets the bike sit at about 25 percent sag does the Kenevo feel that there’s hardly anything beyond the capability of the rear end's shock absorption capabilities. Unfortunately, running this setup diminishes the small-bump-compliance noticeably. Sure, the bike does pop better this way, but if you’re into the sure-planted sofa-like suspension feel over small and medium-sized hits, you may end up bottoming out a little too often.

I think that an air shock with added tokens for high progression could turn the rear end into a dream ride for riders that like a sensitive beginning of the travel, with ample support through its mid-stroke and high ramp-up at the end for bottom-out control at the end. I haven’t had a chance to test a progressive coil spring yet, but it might offer a cheaper solution to add progression to the rear end, rather than switching to an air shock at a cost.





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Specialized Command Post IRcc
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Roval 27.5" Alloy DH rims with Specialized 20 x 110mm front hub and DT Swiss 370 rear.

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Butcher 27.5 x 2.6" BLCK DMND Gripton tires.
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SRAM Code R brakes with 200mm disc front and rear.


Technical Report

The weight Specialized could save with the new frame they equalized by deciding to equip the Kenevo with sturdier components than its predecessor. Specialized components are known to offer great quality, so there’s nothing to complain about in terms of longevity. A SRAM 11-speed setup works fine, but I do miss the broader range of modern 12-speed cassettes a bit, e-bike or not.

Drop it like it's hot: Gone is the angled saddle in a dropped position - the newer Specialized Command Post IRcc features 16 micro-adjustable positions that are noticeable while actuating the post's drop. It's something to get used to, but the Command Post's function is solid, with a defined locking mechanism and smooth actuation. Plus, they are rather short in total length, so even smaller riders can enjoy some extra drop.

Wheelset: I’m not overly excited about the Roval 27.5” Alloy DH’s 28mm internal width in combination with the 2.6” wide tires. Personally, I feel that rims with an inner width of 32 to 34mm provide wider tires with more side hold stability, reducing tire roll. The wheels are on the heavy side, adding to the overall weight, but can also take a beating. I dinged the rim a bunch of times on rock slabs without any visible damage.

Tires: The Butcher’s rather stiff BLCK DMND casing adds sidewall support next to its puncture-resistance, even on the somewhat narrower rims. Although I haven’t been testing in rocky terrain, their Gripton compound seems to hold up well under e-bike loads and provides ample grip on various terrain from wet to dry conditions.

RockShox Boxxer Select RC: Even with the compression fully open I could not replicate the hand-soothing suppleness of Fox’s top-tier dampers - my hands felt a little more tired after a long run, but there’s never been a moment when I doubted the front end’s ability to stick to the ground or keep the front end under control. Throw at it what you will, the Charger RC damper does feel bottomless and composed, even when using almost all of the travel on bigger drops or hard landings. The fork might not feel as lively as some competitors, but I know a bunch of people that are looking for exactly that feel and praise RockShox fork setups.


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Pros

+ Awesome modern and progressive geometry.
+ Fantastic motor and smooth motor management.
+ Highly adjustable motor support modes.
Cons

- Rear end too linear with stock setup.
- Not the cheapest ride.
- No version with air rear shock available.


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotesWith 180 mm of travel, top-notch modern and progressive geometry, a powerful engine and one of the - if not the - most adaptable and refined engine management systems on the market, the 2020 Kenevo platform is a great choice for tackling the roughest trails without ever thinking about if your e-bike is the right tool for the job.
 
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354 Comments

  • 378 32
 Richard Cunningham when asked about e-bikes: „I compare it to relationships: if you’re not up to the task there are electronic devices that work very well and do almost the same job.“
  • 9 1
 Exactly
  • 67 4
 I thought
"Relationship is a lot like Algebra. Have you seen your X and wondered Y."
  • 29 14
 Downvoters: this is funny, look for help, you are not alone
  • 12 2
 RC’s legacy is forever.
  • 6 6
 C'mon guyyysss....how many times Bob saved our lifes?? bob stands for ( battery operated boyfriend ) Smile ))
  • 5 5
 Exactly what a Salesman would say to a fool!
  • 1 2
 @drivereight: did you really think to be the one and only??
  • 17 10
 ~Ebike's are the Modern Day Golf Cart~
  • 3 6
 @Jaybirdy: more like softball vs baseball
  • 9 8
 Giant Reign E cost the same but you get Fox Factory suspension and SRAM AXS Eagle 12 speed and a dropper. Bike rips too. Specialized seems overpriced...
  • 5 0
 Comment of the year
  • 3 0
 @reed1: I’ll recommend you to try both and see the difference. I personally tried a couple of brands and really got to understand why the difference. When you can’t win in one department you gonna try to compensate on the other like components.
  • 28 2
 Seriously Specialized ? How did you not call this the Evo Kenevo??
My consulting fee invoice has been sent via quickbooks.
  • 3 2
 @rickythunder: I have. The new Reign's geo is dialed. Yamaha motor isn't as quiet but works great.
  • 3 3
 Sounds like Evil Knievel....
Nothing..?
How OLD AM I?!!
  • 7 0
 Freeride isn't free
It needs a hefty battery
And if you don't pay your 9k-o-five
Who will?
  • 10 16
flag mikeyb76 (Jan 20, 2020 at 17:44) (Below Threshold)
 Agreed, E-bikes are like the SUPs of surfing: usually inexperienced and out of control, and not generally welcomed either
  • 4 4
 Let’s ride together in whistler, on dirt merchant with my e-bike Wink @mikeyb76:
  • 21 37
flag carbonbootprint (Jan 20, 2020 at 23:58) (Below Threshold)
 @mikeyb76: Unless you’re a person with mobility concerns or a senior citizen, e- bikes are corny as f*ck and You don’t belong on our trails. As far as the trails I’ve personally been involved in building, e-bikes are not welcome. Stick to Bobsled you f*cking kooks.
  • 40 12
 @carbonbootprint: You know those guys riding fully rigid titanium single speeds...that's you in 5 to 10 years. I meet guys like you on trail making lame calls as I pass by, getting all twisted up, guys I have known for years even do it. I dont get it what does it matter? You don't own mountain biking. Why does my decreased effort on a climb mean you can't enjoy your ride? How do you reconcile lifts? Or shuttles?
I generally come home wrecked from my rides due to lapping out way more dh runs.
I have been riding for decades, climbs sux balls, downhills rule we want the same thing. (and nz we have a 32km restriction. My levo is mullet to so it runs close to 34kms which will only make you more pissed)
Let it go brother..... life is way to short to be hating. More riders mean more trials, more cool tech life is just better.
One day you will be too old to really enjoy riding and you will try it and you will be like...oh.
Go light up and chill...Winston.
  • 13 7
 @carbonbootprint: you’re really tough, arent you? I can tell by your mean internet words.
  • 5 8
 And like those electronic devices, it has a water bottle holder for "realism". You know, to make it look like you're really busting your ass and working up a thirst.
  • 7 3
 @carbonbootprint: At the end of the day we are all just a bunch of nerds riding plastic and metal through the forest as fast as we can. Most people look at us the same way that you and I look at a 40 year old riding a razor scooter as a means of transportation. My guess is you have never even tried riding an e-bike (and no your test ride around the parking lot doesn't count).
  • 3 4
 @carbonbootprint: totally agree—- those inexperienced e-bikers make our relationships with other trail user worse and it IS the fact that others cant tell the difference - I’ve had to word up dudes because they were out of control with no trail etiquette
  • 2 0
 @carbonbootprint: Please just don't commit any violent crimes on the trails. We don't want to see you in jail. Stay angry, my friends Smile .
  • 2 0
 @mikeyb76:

Brendog , Bernie Kerr and Rat Boy all ride e bikes .
You gonna word them up too ?
  • 2 0
 @mikeyb76: people who use the term ‘word up’ threaten our relationship with other trail users
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 @cuban-b: word up i.e. educate—- if people don’t educate then the trails become a shit show
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 @Rosemount: if they ride them illegally on our local trails, yes I will educate them. Pretty sure they ride them .2% of the time
  • 1 0
 people who use the term 'word up' to describe education make the trails a shit show.
  • 2 0
 @mikeyb76: Word Up Brah
  • 145 6
 Tester weights 55kg, bike weights 24kg, everything's fine.
  • 5 2
 exactly my thought as well Smile
  • 27 9
 I'd say I'm living proof, that bike (or rider) weight isn't the biggest factor for having fun on a bike. Or being able to ride one properly, for that matter.
  • 44 32
 At which point do we stop calling them bicycles?
  • 8 6
 If you think it's hard to give a heavy bike some air, trying going faster. Much faster...
  • 31 5
 @Leo48333: when they have throttles
  • 3 3
 @WAKIdesigns: well in ballistics weight isn't a factor unless you have huge dissipative forces...
  • 1 1
 @freebikeur Did you expected a featherweight bike?
  • 9 2
 @ralf-hauser: it’s a huge factor!! As someone who’s 80lbs heavier, give me a 55lb ebike and I explode corners, whereas you are being aided with the extra momentum. Also, you get faster acceleration and longer battery life. I honestly think this review is full of holes with your size and fit preferences.
  • 2 0
 In my experience at 63 kg,throwing the bike around is not a problem. When you hit that 25 km/h barrier,I feel like I´m pedaling 2 bikes....My only complain is I need bigger legs to push an e-bike further than 25 km/h when is flat. In the same trail a regular bike is faster by a good margin,but it is another kind of fun. Another no-no factor is tires,fat tires are paper thin,not a good combo in a very heavy bike. By the way,I love would to own a good e-bike,to me it is a good tool to know new places and ride some areas. My boss have some specific e-bike tours,very fun places to ride,a little more isolated and less know.
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 @Leo48333: Never. Everyone calls them motorbikes which they are not. You try and ride this bike on the same trails as actual dirtbikes and see if you have fun and keep up with the ACTUAL f*ckING motor bikes. Dip shit....
  • 2 0
 @spiderninja: I’ve sold quite a few Levo’s to moto guys because they are lighter and the same speed as they’re motos on PNW singletrack, also because they don’t need to carry chainsaws to cut trees out of their way, they can pick an emtb up.
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 @5afety3rd: You should know the difference then if you ridden and sold an ebike. The simple fact that you always have to pedal to move. a throttle ebike yes I can agree they should be restricted to moto trails. I have both a ebike and a non ebike and ride both. I am no faster on the descents but I can climb faster simply cause I can actually climb instead of hike a bike and I am not nearly as exhausted after the climb.

Same speed as a moto??? not likely. Maybe if the trail is requiring a moto to be that slow then even a non ebike would keep up. plus the moto guys are now getting a work out. Second not everywhere is like the PNW when it comes to moto trail access. A lot of places that allow moto is not the same and most of it is not a place for a pedal boosted bicycle.
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 @spiderninja: I've ridden most ebikes on the market, i work in the industry. Based on your comments, you're extremely uneducated on the subject of usable power and speed in singletrack situations. I don't personally see ebikes as bicycles, because they aren't, and they arent motos either. 3 different sports. I've also lived in every corner of the country and am very familiar with the difference in singeltrack, that's why i made a point to take about pnw and treefall, which is vastly different from the Utah desert i'm currently in. I see ebikes at motor alternatives. I support pavement ebikes and using the car less. i support emtb as a moto alternative. I will never be in support of emtb on trails designed for bicycles, they do increase the amount of laps which is the same impact as adding users does, but to does this two-fold. Again that impact is different depending on location, amount of users, trail design, douchebro-factor, etc.
  • 4 4
 @5afety3rd: what is wrong with increasing amount of users per trail?

Personally i like ebike as a alternative so i can have more laps, ride further and have more fun;

Also they are awesome as a city commuters - since they allows sweat free / fast transportation; unfortunately not all city’s are well developed to support that
  • 1 0
 @nickmalysh: city bike are huge and very good to almost any city. It opens more possibilities when choosing a way of transport. Madrid city public service BiciMad is working really good,tons of users even in winter. I like e-bikes for MTB too,very fun .
  • 139 3
 "giving the frame a sleeker silhouette", yup sleek.... like a Sherman tank
  • 42 1
 Sherman tanks just have big bones and water retention, ok?
  • 88 2
 @mashrv1 Yeah, you suck. My mum says I'm beautiful. *sob :'-(
  • 16 0
 @ShermanTank1: apologies for e-shaming you :-(
  • 6 0
 @ShermanTank1: It doesn't take much to blow you up.
  • 4 0
 @ShermanTank1: sorry my rubber drunk fingers hit Neg, my bad you beautiful thing
  • 5 2
 It looks like a pregnant seahorse.
  • 115 8
 E-bikes aren't my thing. But if E-bikes were my thing, let me tell you, this bike would be the thing.
  • 84 4
 Climbs like a goat, descends like a boat.
  • 5 1
 Descends like a bloat?
  • 1 0
 Is that good?
  • 54 8
 A 'downhill' bike which can climb is so damn tempting. I rode a levo a couple of times last year and loved how capable it was, but having something which can send uk downhill then effortlessly get you back to the top again is a dream (if you don't mind cashing out car'esque finance payments for it)
  • 20 11
 You could get a downhill bike and an xc bike and trailer for less . And think how fit you'd get Smile

Seriously though, this bike definitely has a place but its only really one style of riding it's suitable for so you'd still need another bike. In that case its a bloody expensive and luxurious present for the odd days you would like to self-shuttle DH runs and not go on a proper ride.
  • 16 19
 The only thing is that the added weight makes the bike much harder to control when pointed down. You can get better and fitter, but you would still have more fun with a lighter bike, with which you can boost jumps easier, pick up the front easier, and so on.
  • 1 0
 I imagine if The Kenevo gets discounted price midway through 2020 the comp version could be almost affordable (prob not by me though) gutted.
  • 26 3
 I rented a levo last week and was blown away by how good it was. I had ridden a Bosch ebike 2 days previous. The spesh motor is so much better. Super smooth and seamless integration. 60kms & 2500 metres of vert. It was stupid fun.
  • 10 3
 @dwojo: The downside of the specialized motor (at the moment) compared to Bosch though is the longevity and durability. Just do a bit of an internet search and you'll find a lot more broken Brose motors than Bosch and they apparntly don't have great customer service. I've seen the inside of both motors and spoken to professional e-bike motor repair specialists and that has been their opinion too.
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 @phops: You would get a lot fitter riding up on a normal bike, but you would get a bigger upper body muscling that immense 23kg bike around all day - and bigger upper bodies look better than big legs/skinny top half that cycling promotes.

That said, 23kg is heck of a lot of weight. When it said at the top about how the frame has lost 1kg and the motor has lost 400g or whatever I thought wow, we must be getting down close to 20kg then but sadly not.

I will only consider an ebike when the weight is down well under 20kg. I think 17-18kg and I could be tempted. I don't know when that is likely to happen though.
  • 5 1
 @jaame: its a total body workout.
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flag chriskneeland (Jan 20, 2020 at 5:01) (Below Threshold)
 @DDoc: You mean a total pussy workout.
  • 2 3
 @DDoc: I rented a Levi for a day. It was no way as tiring as a normal bike. More tiring on the downhills though. Heart rate was lower though. A zone lower pretty much all the time.
  • 12 4
 @chriskneeland: good one, chris
  • 13 1
 @phops: Its really not that heavy
considering DH bikes 10yrs ago were in this weight range as well adding sprung weight to the bike increases the suspensions ability to work better. I believe Orange and some other companies have been experimenting with this concept for years now. Science is cool, go science!
  • 8 11
 @pargolf8: Someone's gotta keep it real around here.
  • 3 0
 @MikeGruhler: I had a 42 pound Dh bike a few years back, it felt ok until I was up in the air then I felt like I was trying to throw around a boat anchor, that was still 10 pounds lighter than this thing. Heavy bikes just aren't that fun for me.
  • 7 2
 @jaame: My wife has the newer turbo Levo as she is 7 months pregnant and still able to ride. It’s a small frame but we have it at 42lbs or 19kg. She loves it.
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flag andymcrod (Jan 20, 2020 at 7:13) (Below Threshold)
 If climbing is so easy on e-bike why you can still see so many e-bikes on the lifts around the world? Wink
  • 7 3
 @andymcrod: maybe that is because the lifts go directly from the bottom of the run to the top, and the roads to the top zigzag, therefore taking a lot longer. That’s the only reason I can think of. Climbing on an ebike still requires some effort, which is more than a lift requires. But it’s a good question. Why would one need an ebike to go down a mountain, when the assist cuts out at 25km/h?
  • 3 0
 @ShermanTank1: the Brose motor does not like being slammed into Turbo mode to get over obstacles while pedaling. It blows up the clutch, but Specialized has been replacing these no questions asked within a week.

For longevity purposes, reserve Turbo mode for jamming up fire roads and not technical climbs.
  • 6 3
 @jaame: you can go just as hard on an eBike as you can on an analog bike, you just aren't forced to go hard like you normally would be. They do smooth out your exertion so less Zone 5 for sure.
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flag Branmuffin (Jan 20, 2020 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 @jaame: The only people who think ebikes are a great workout are ebikers looking to justify their laziness....
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 @salespunk: I don’t hate ebikes and I would certainly consider getting one if they weighed less and the prices were not the same as a used motorcycle.
What I found was that often on a normal bike you’re at max heart rate just trying to stay feet up over technical sections of climbs. Those were the parts that the ebike took away the effort on. Everything else yeah, you could go just as hard on an ebike. It’s also a lot harder on the hands and shoulders trying to manual, pump and pop on one of those bad boys.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: my local bike park doesn’t have uphill access to most areas. So you ha e to use the lifts. There are a few areas at the top that have some uphill trails. These are great for ebiking. because they are long and steep. These trails are pretty much for ebiking. But I still prefer my trail bike at the bike park. More playful. I prefer the ebike for long adventures.
  • 5 3
 @chriskneeland: Go back to ruining people's run on the freedom trail you macho man
  • 2 5
 @MillerTFB: WTF? I don't even know what that means.
  • 2 0
 You’re constantly on here giving crap “expert advise/opinions ”, on the hardtail review (spec and Marin) and now here spouting rubbish.... @phops:
  • 2 0
 @salespunk: from what I've heard pedal strikes can also have the same effect. Broken drive belts as well. Also the seals aren't as good as bosch and water ingress is far more regular.
  • 3 2
 Treat yourself to a KTM Freeride E-XC, it’s an E-Bike too!
  • 1 1
 @jaame: Big top body and skinny legs may look good, but it is ridiculous. Stability comes from legs and core, not arms and pectorals.
So yeah, good legs and rather skinny top (if core is strong) is better. Nothing to do with cycling, just logic.
  • 1 1
 @RoadRunner13: I didn't say skinny legs and big top looks good. No no no. In proportion top and bottom looks good. I don't like the big top/skinny legs, but it does look better than big legs/skinny top. I mean, who looks better, a gymnast or a TdF cyclist? They both look kind of ridiculous, but at least gymnasts can hide their legs (and they have massive guns which look awesome!).

p.s. I never skip leg day.
  • 14 1
 This is the type of ebike that makes absolute sense. If I wasn't lucky enough to give right next to a chairlift bike park this would be ideal.

All these gatekeeping roadies in disguise blabbing "oohhh pedal to the top and earn your descent": no, I hate pedaling. I like riding downhill, and if you give me the option between 8 downhills in a day vs 2 (the second with jelly legs) I'm going to take the ebike every damn time
  • 1 0
 @jaame: why do you think gymnasts look weird? Gymnasts are probably amongst the fittest/functionally strongest athletes out there. Their bodies are the result of well rounded physical routine that hits virtually every muscle in the body. Go throw yourself in an iron cross or a front lever, and you'll quickly realize they look the way they do because all the their little stabilizer muscles are stronger than your major muscle groups.
  • 3 4
 @shami:

Sounds like you need to hit the gym. Me and my riding buddies have no problem hitting huge jumps and throwing big whips on our ebikes.
  • 2 0
 @smgishot13: I will start pumping iron tomorrow in hopes I can be as rad as you and your buddies.
  • 2 0
 @shami: I'm so happy for you.
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 @ShermanTank1:
Says someone without any first-hand experience.
I've owned a '16 Levo, '18 Kenevo, and now a '20 Kenevo. NEVER had a problem with any of 'em.
Guess I just got lucky(x3) huh?
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 @jaame: soon.
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 @privateer-wheels: I think they look weird because their bodies are out of proportion. Their upper bodies look insanely good. The muscular size, definition and proportion are amazing to behold. Unfortunately the same cannot be said for their legs. Of course, upper body power is a must for them, but tiny skinny legs can get the job done. Ergo, when I watch the Olympics I marvel at how they seem to have upper bodies developed to bodybuilder standards, matched to legs that have not been developed much post-puberty.

On the other side, when I see photos of Tour cyclists hammering up mountains with their huge piston legs I feel the pangs of jealousy. Amazing bottom halves of their bodies. On the flip side, they have these tiny little ten inch arms. When I see photos of Chris Froome for example, with his shirt off... he looks really ill frankly. The combo of the skinny arms and shoulders, no pecs, and that milky white skin that comes from wearing a cycling jersey all the time.

Let's face it, it's not a good look. If I had to choose I would choose gymnast and I'd never take my trousers off. I wouldn't choose though. All round development looks a lot better.

By the way I'm not bagging them out. I respect both body shapes and understand why they have them, I just wouldn't want one myself.
  • 1 0
 @phops: your assessment is so far off
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 @jaame: I'm not saying you are bagging anyone, no worries. Just curious if where your concept of a gymnast physique comes from. If you look at high level gymnasts, they are usually pretty well balanced. Both men and women have pretty well proportioned legs. A quick google will confirm that I think - I know it has for me. Mind you they don't have massive legs like a track cyclists or speed skater of course, but they all a killer vertical!
  • 2 0
 @Chilliwacker: A non ebike specialized bike can get just as expensive as well and yes, the Kenevo is pricey but there are plenty of other options in the way of ebike that are far less expensive and just as fun and capable.
  • 1 0
 @Preachey: could not upvote more!
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 mountain bikes have gotten too stupid, i'm going back to BMX
  • 6 7
 My thoughts exactly
  • 40 36
 Not a mtb just a expensive boomer toy.
  • 36 53
flag pargolf8 (Jan 20, 2020 at 5:12) (Below Threshold)
 @Gregorysmithj1: people who talk about cost kill me. The jealousy just oozes from your pores. Im not a boomer, bitch. Work harder
  • 26 20
 @Gregorysmithj1: If you think this is a boomer toy, you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this bike. It's a self-shuttler to get you up fire roads for DH, enduro, freeride runs. Find me a boomer who is ripping park laps on a 50 pound bike. As someone who laps downs all day, I'd kill for this thing.
  • 20 47
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 5:41) (Below Threshold)
 @Landonop: ok, boomer
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flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 5:42) (Below Threshold)
 @pargolf8: Im in enough shape to pedal uphill sorry.
  • 27 12
 @Gregorysmithj1: I'm 25, you nerd.
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flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 5:45) (Below Threshold)
 @Landonop: cool enjoy your motorcycle.
  • 13 15
 @Gregorysmithj1: Man, you really don't understand DH bikes if you're calling this a motorcycle and telling people to pedal it uphill. You don't pedal DH/park bikes uphill. They are literally not meant for that. A dual-crown, 64deg HA is just not gonna work well going up, motor or not.
  • 47 10
 @pargolf8: Imagine riding an E-Bike and telling others to work harder, haha
  • 19 34
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 6:13) (Below Threshold)
 @Landonop: Motor + Bicycle = Motorcycle. Enjoy it!
  • 10 13
 @Gregorysmithj1: Technically that's a moped, but whatever. Regardless, I'm too poor to buy whatever you want to call this thing.
  • 11 26
flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 6:16) (Below Threshold)
 @Landonop: Motor + Pedal = Moped, Motorbike.
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flag pargolf8 (Jan 20, 2020 at 6:34) (Below Threshold)
 @Gregorysmithj1: lol me too bud, trust me
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 @Gregorysmithj1: i lived in slc. I dont argue with mormons. Like arguing with the offspring of santa and winny the poo
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flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 6:56) (Below Threshold)
 @pargolf8: okay dumbass.
  • 6 8
 @Gregorysmithj1: joseph smith would not oblige my son. Peace be with you
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flag deadmeat25 (Jan 20, 2020 at 7:13) (Below Threshold)
 @Gregorysmithj1: And you're not a biker, just a poor jealous c*nt...
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flag Gregorysmithj1 (Jan 20, 2020 at 7:45) (Below Threshold)
 @deadmeat25: huh?
  • 7 1
 @pargolf8: I am surprised you let this bother you? Also just because someone complains about cost does not mean they don’t have a lot of money. Wealth and frugality can and do go hand in hand.
  • 33 3
 @Gregorysmithj1: expensive is relative. Ten years ago we all though $5K for a bike was ridiculous, now it is average. I can also tell you that in my group, most of them have switched to eBikes for a few reasons.

First it allows riders of differing fitness to ride together. The group isn't having to constantly wait for others that are off the fitness train for a few weeks. Second, our rides are like a game of Chutes n' Ladders with 7 mile rides having 1500'+ of elevation so having assist allows them to get 5 runs in instead of 2 and still be home in time to hang out with the kids. Third, it allows us to get way deeper into the back country trails and away from the mad houses of the more popular trails that are easily accessible to hikers. On weekends we don't have to stop every 50' to allow the yoga pants groups to go by us.

Right now I am full analog and don't have an eBike in my garage, so I am not some zealot. Are they expensive? Absolutely. Are they the same as a 250 moto? Not even close. Should they stay in the same categorization as bikes from an access perspective? Yes, they don't cause any additional damage and on 98% of trails an analog bike is faster going downhill so they also don't cause additional trail conflict. Is there risk in this approach? Absolutely, but the genie is out of the bottle at this point and they are going to be out on your local trails like it or not.
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flag reverend27 (Jan 20, 2020 at 9:33) (Below Threshold)
 @pargolf8: yep they believe some dumb ass shit.
Its why they have so many kids you have to be brainwashed from birth to believe it.
  • 2 1
 @Landonop: Put a tooth under your pillow tonight Big Grin you might get a surprise
  • 3 5
 @Gregorysmithj1: gold plates + top hat= some dumb ass shit.
  • 1 0
 @joe1989: I think my girlfriend might be a little concerned if I started losing teeth at this age, but it might be worth it. I'm already losing hair, so why not?
  • 3 0
 @twhart20: I totally agree with you. Hows the saying, a fool and his money soon part ways? I just dont think that cost is a valid argument for hating anything. Cheers!
  • 1 1
 @Landonop: you are not alone in the pre mature hair loss my friend. I say f*ck it
  • 2 2
 @lncorgnito: touche amigo but i work hard to “play more”
  • 5 4
 @salespunk: So, if “having assist allows them to get 5 runs in instead of 2”, how can you say “they don't cause any additional damage”? Seems like 2.5 times the damage not even taking in consideration the additional bike weight and power.
  • 9 5
 @PNdubRider: I think you're confusing mountain bike trails with archaeological preservation sites, one you treat delicately, the other you smash the f*cking shit out of like it's the last lap of your life...

Do you go downhill like a f*cking ballerina or what?
  • 2 1
 @deadmeat25: “Float like a butterfly....”
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 @PNdubRider: Haha, i really don't get all this preservation bullshit, if you wanna preserve trails get a f*cking shovel out and do some work. If it's a pay to ride bike park, rag the hell out of, it's what you pay for...

Mud is mud, it doesn't care where it is or what shape it is and neither do i...
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 @salespunk:@salespunk: I don't care about the price of Ebikes I don't even care or am bothered about Ebikes on trails my only gripe is e bikers are so fooled they actually believe its the same sport. It is not the same sport it is not just an "extra" gear it has A MOTOR. I can play nice but its not fun to have a easier sport co-opt your culture its like scooters claiming to be skateboarders or softball players claiming to be baseball players. They are welcome at the skatepark and the baseball field just as they are welcome on our trails but don't abuse language to make it the same sport its not.
  • 1 2
 @reverend27: yeah he wrote a huge novel in three months out of a hat = genius
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 @Gregorysmithj1: I know right, it's like, we may look similar but your a subhuman knuckle-dragging f*ckwit, and i've got an ebike so i can have more fun on my bike, but some people think we're the same species!!! Gotta laugh eh Smile Wanker...
  • 2 4
 @deadmeat25: Have fun on your ebike just make sure you list it as a ebike on strava as its not the same thing.
  • 2 6
flag deadmeat25 (Jan 21, 2020 at 8:49) (Below Threshold)
 @Gregorysmithj1: Strava is gay, that's why you use it. I just ride.
  • 2 5
 @deadmeat25: of course you can't use it because with a motor supplementing your athletic abilities you don't have a accurate measure for improvement.
  • 3 6
 @Gregorysmithj1: I don't care about improvement, i care about going downhill fast, doing jumps, skids and wheelies, you know, riding a mountain bike. Not how my gay shaved legs look in lycra, or how light my bike is, and especially not how fast someone else got from A to B. You're a prick and your priorities come out of a dogs arsehole...
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 @deadmeat25: (I don't care about improvement, I care about going fast) wait what? haha.
  • 3 6
 @Gregorysmithj1: You already got a down prop and it wasn't even from me. I think you should head over to lycra clad weekly, or road cycling for homos.com or something mate...
  • 1 1
 @reverend27: you’re not wrong. Downvote all you want LDS boys. I lived among you for 4 years. On some manson shit in my opinion. No booze, but id serve 50 year old men 3 shirley temples with their dinner lol
  • 2 0
 @salespunk: Update: $5K for bike only slightly less ridiculous.
  • 1 0
 @pargolf8: I agree ordering Shirley temples is weird and stupid if your going to drink, drink! There is a lot of talmudic mormons that just love obeying rules without a lot of thinking of why they are religious rules and what the purpose of them are its more just a social thing. Utah is only like 35% members so I could more logically make the argument its the non lds people that make it weird.
  • 1 2
 @Gregorysmithj1: come up for air man.
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 @platnum: I climbed 2300 feet on my bike today I got plenty.
  • 2 1
 @A-HIGHLY-EDUCATED-PROFESSIONAL: Having started riding when high end bikes were $2K, I continue to gladly pay $5K+ for modern bikes. Go ride an early 90's Manitou HT with 63 mm of plush elastomer travel with cantilever brakes and XTR triple chainrings for some perspective on how far we have come.

The great thing about today is you can get 90% of the performance of a $10K bike for $3K with something like the Stumpjumper Evo.
  • 30 4
 Sooner or later all eBikes end up having some kind of problem with the motor, the battery or the display... When that happens you realize that customer support is the most important factor for an eBike. This bike is very expensive, but in the long run you get what you paid for, and that's an amazing customer support. I'm not a huge fan of the brand or this eBike, but I have to give credit where credit is due.
  • 26 8
 This bike's geometry is amazing. Having ridden the bike for a few months now, I can say that the review is on point.
I sold the Boxxer, put a 36 up front, swapped the coil for an air shock and I'm having more fun with it than with any other bike (or e-bike) I've had in the past
  • 1 0
 What air shock did you end up with? The progression is better then the older Kenevo (which bottoms out a ton and mid stroke is a bit wallowy), but sounds like still isn’t great?
  • 4 1
 @Jcmonty: I tried first the X2 I had on my enduro bike and then a DPX2.
My main purpose was lowering the weight a bit. After more or less a month on the X2, I went back to the super deluxe coil and I was surprised by how much better it felt with the X2
  • 1 1
 @ghirox85: Thank you! Better all around? More "poppy" midstroke? I think a more supportive rear is key for these big ebikes
  • 18 0
 Still no USB Port
  • 4 0
 This! I'm amazed with all the tech advantages, that I still can't cook a poptart on the way up to the trailhead
  • 4 0
 @nordland071285: or charge my pen.
  • 2 0
 @nordland071285: Was thinking about a refrigerator and a Ventilator
  • 12 0
 I think the reviewer got his high and low terminology swapped. Low gear is for climbing and going slow, the big 46t cog in back. High gear is for going fast, the small 11t cog in back. You put a Jeep in 4-low when hill climbing, not 4-high.
  • 2 0
 Was going to say the same thing
  • 3 0
 Yep. Drives me crazy when someone says "I shifted down" to describe shifting from a larger to a smaller cog. It's shifting up!
  • 3 0
 These are common mistakes made by people who clearly don't know what those H-L screws are for.
  • 2 0
 You’ve never done locked 4wd burnouts in 4L going uphill.
  • 2 0
 @MtbSince84: is shifting down. Because you’re going numerically lower in ratio. 32/10 is higher than 32/50
  • 2 1
 @5afety3rd: "32/10 is higher than 32/50"

Yes, shifting from a 50-tooth cog to a 10-tooth cog is shifting *up* (to a higher ratio), which was exactly my point.
  • 1 0
 @MtbSince84: Read your comment wrong, my bad, maybe people will understand fractions? hahaha
  • 3 0
 @MartyFluxMcFly: Definitely makes me wonder if the reviewer has ever installed a derailleur.
  • 7 0
 @sriracha: Bahahaha. Found this old product review of his: "The shifting is smooth and fast, but the chain keeps falling off the cog when I shift into the high gear climbing up a hill"
  • 18 6
 PB mods the e-bike filter isn't working. Instead of meaningful discussion we have jokes, complaining, and eMTB trashing. To all the e-bike haters: being snarky won't change anything - this is the future. If you care so much about what other people can afford or what they enjoy maybe you should focus on getting rid of your own insecurities or immaturity.
  • 17 9
 Have any of you haters even ridden one yet? They don’t have a throttle! You still get a serious work out when you ride one, depending on how much assist you use. They are sick, and you really do get in so many more laps. So many haters on here that probably haven’t even ridden one.
  • 10 1
 Who wants to see an average/good rider put in timed DH laps on this bike vs the Enduro?
  • 3 3
 With no chair lift involved? why bother.
you know what will happen.

I think Mike should take it for a Hot Lap
  • 5 1
 @DDoc: Only time the downhill section.
  • 11 5
 Why does the E models get steeper STA? I've seen this a couple of times now and I just don't get it. It's almost like someone is thinking we don't do any climbing on ordinary bikes.
  • 6 2
 Maybe with the same effort it is possible to climb steeper seated on an e-bike than seated on a bike without pedal assist?
  • 2 2
 is the standard model as long as this?
  • 1 0
 @vinay: big, if true!
  • 7 2
 The comparison to the car industry was far-fetched indeed: the wheelbase of the Mini is actually a couple of inches longer than that of 911 or Boxster/Cayman Smile Unless the author actually meant one of Porsche SUVs.. which wouldn't be entirely surprising from the enthusiast of motorized bicycles Razz
  • 2 0
 Gone are the days when the mini is a small car... Now it's just a car with a badge
  • 2 0
 @Lookinforit: I think the modern day version of the 60's Mini is more the Suzuki Swift. Just saying. The new Mini's are horrible.

27.5 wheels with 2.8 rubber so you can swap out to 29 wheels if so inclined with no issues. Bit of a sled for my liking but seems fit for purpose.
  • 11 6
 This is the best use of an e-bike I can possibly think of. People hate on e-bikes because they remove an element of skill, fitness, competition, whatever, but this thing preserves the essence of what this category of bike is meant to do. Shuttle up, rip down. The motor just removes the need for a lift/shuttle method and doesn’t affect the down.

That being said, you could probably buy a beater truck, shuttle pad, and a couple entry-level DH bikes for the price of this thing.
  • 5 1
 You could. But you also need another person to shuttle with at least, if not a couple, to drive the truck. I've never ridden an eBike, but I see the appeal in some scenarios. You can basically go on shuttle runs solo, and not be totally spent when you top out on each lap.
  • 2 0
 @privateer-wheels: Oh, totally. I think an e-DH/park bike is awesome. It's just prohibitively expensive for 99% of the population.
  • 4 1
 Exactly whiy I'm coming around with Ebikes. I can shuttle up gravel vehicular roads and rip down, no cars involved, no hassle. I can get in 6 laps in 3 hrs vs maybe 3. Opens up some moto trails for MTB use too where a std MTB would have to be walked up the majority of them...
  • 1 3
 I’d like to shuttle up and rip down on a KTM Freeride E-XC
  • 1 0
 But what if I don't have friends to drive the shuttle truck :-/

This is 100% the e-bike for me - more time spent focusing on the trail, less spent huffing and puffing my way back up. I swapped from DH bikes to moto, but sorely miss being connected to the trails, hunting for pumps, the bike not weighing 270lbs.....
  • 6 1
 Just sold my 2019 levo expert and gone to a Megatower. Multiple problems with it, had to get rescued twice on epic days out. Was a lottery weather it switched on. Belts jamming. Noisy motor. 2 year warranty is pants.

Would not buy another with brose motor. Most peeps I know all have trouble but paid so much for bike don’t like to admit there’s problems. Myb dabble again down the line but don’t miss it.
  • 2 0
 @Rgas thats unfortunate, I've ridden mine hard and had very little issues. They have the quietest motor out there, I know they had some early motors that were noisy and specialized swapped them quickly.
  • 1 0
 STEPS for the win...
  • 8 0
 I'm sure it's fun, but I'm staying analog for as long as I can.
  • 6 0
 Oh hell, more omitted vowels and even some consonants got left out.

"Butcher, BLCK DMND casing, 2Bliss Ready,"
  • 10 4
 I know the PB community is mostly against E-bikes, but those machines looks incredible and really fun to ride...
  • 3 0
 I have a 2019 levo which is essentially the same motor. I broke the belt after 350 miles. I've had two or three additional problems as well. I expect the current motor to fail in another 200 miles. Rumor has it that there about 2 start producing updates in the current Motors to the bearing and belt that will prevent future failures. We'll see. Right now my bikes is in the shop because the plug in where you recharge it is also where the battery connects to the motor. It's a serious weak link and this is the third time mine been damaged under normal riding. The first time it cost me a $150 to fix.
On top of all that the bike is super fun to ride and I'm a full convert. I just wish I wasn't a guinea pig too. The Brose motors feel a ton better then the Shimano I tried but if I had it to do over I wouldn't buy a specialized until the 2021 model year.
  • 7 1
 Bike is heavier than the test pilot
  • 3 0
 who's riding who in this scenario?
  • 5 3
 Rode a Rocky Mountain Altitude Powerplay a few months back out of recommendation from my LBS, loved it. Great bike, excellent & seamless integration, plenty of grunt to move all 205 lbs of me and another 10-15 lbs of gear. My biggest observed drawback is they are terrible at jumping. 50 lb bike drops off the lip like a sack of rocks. Maybe the suspension was set up for someone lighter, didn't have time or patience to add volume spacers on a demo bike, but that will be a factor I consider when looking at e-bikes. Waiting to see some lighter options...
  • 5 2
 Gotta be setup...motos weigh 4x as much as obviously dont have a problem jumping or dropping
  • 3 2
 @RadBartTaylor: Suspension setup is important, but motos still drop like a sack of rocks off things unless you add throttle/speed. Their weight shows all the same when you coast down slow tight technical trails, motos just aren't poppy like light mountain bikes unless you are putting power down.
  • 6 1
 Are you seriously saying that because it's heavier, it falls quicker? Seriously?
  • 2 3
 @RadBartTaylor: motors also throttle up to the lip, or while traveling over the lip. Try pedaling up a lip and let me know how that goes.
  • 2 2
 @deadmeat25: I’m saying A LOT more speed is required to get that big turkey airborne than what I am accustomed to. I’m sure suspension tuning will cure some it, but lugging a 50 lb bike over a jump vs a 30 lb bike is a hell of a difference. If you’ve ever ridden an e-bike and taken it to your local familiar jumps you would understand that there is definitely an adjustment period for the added weight
  • 2 2
 @JDub713: If i've ever ridden an ebike? I own one mate, the old Kenevo, and i know for a FACT that you are talking utter bollocks... You're a total moron.
  • 1 1
 @deadmeat25: I don’t argue with people who pick fights over the internet from thousands of miles away. Sorry your life is miserable bud, hope you have a great day!
  • 3 1
 It looks awesome, the only e-frame that looks better probably mondraker;

Performance wise e-bikes makes huge sense ; you can bypass stupid uphills and ride Downhills ( like a bike park ) but within home proximity;

I can see this bike with single crown and air shock witch will lead in weight reduction even more! Also unless you are have a f, decent dh wheels set can shred even more weight without sacrificing performance
  • 4 0
 Pretty depressing that even with dual crown forks and a motor this is still lighter than my dh bike...
  • 4 2
 What I would love is an e-bike like this where you can easily remove the batt and motor and the bike remains perfectly rideable. Best of both worlds for chairlift days and then to ride in instead of shuttle on others.
  • 11 10
 Fazua Evation motor allows just that. You remove both battery and motor, and the only weight penalty you have left is a coupling, 300g or something. On top of that battery and motor add no more than 4.5kg to the total weight of the bike, making it 2kg lighter than anything else. As far as i am concerned it can be found only on Lapierre. Too bad it's a fkng Lapierre... the problem is the motor is not too powerful and the battery doesn't last as long. Currently 99% of E-mtbers are completely worthless sluggers who can't ride for sht, who would never appreciate this freedom and be able to utilize benefits of handling a lighter bike, so I don't think Fazua's popularity picks up anytime soon.
  • 8 9
 @WAKIdesigns: they may be worthless sluggers but atleast they're not worthless human beings like you. Bloody judgy know it all. Just f off.
  • 2 1
 The problem is that not using the battery and motors as stressed members leaves weight savings on the table, and weight is the number 1 complaint about these things.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: So basically a good concept, and piss poor execution...pretty standard mtb engineering.
  • 1 0
 Unless they will be adopted by Big s/ giant / other major manufacturers;

Lapriels are popular on their local market only;

The idea to have single bike for shuttle / non - shuttle days is cool, however majority of people do not even adjust rebound or tire pressure( including myself) just grab the bike and ride; so it will not be adopted much
  • 1 0
 @graniteandrew: I mean if a bike like this Spec had it, I’d buy one. But I am not buying a fkng Lapierre Smile
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I've got a 17 Levo and a 20 levo, I'd love to see a 200w modular battery option and a high torque motor design, DH doesn't need much assist, just enough oomph to get up 2-3k'. I'm sure you'd get better yield from a motor geared in the range of 4-8mph at 6% grade. It'll come in time though, just like mid travel xc/enduro bikes. Pretty soon everyone will get to pick their flavor.
  • 2 0
 @graniteandrew: I’d put it like this: I want motor for local riding and long trips. But I really do want a lighter bike near the lift. I have no more than 1,5h for a ride on weekdays. I don’t need a big battery.
  • 4 2
 I think it's rad and makes a lot of sense. We have a decomissioned downhill park around here, where you could take this thing and get a bunch of runs and have a good old time, so...why not?
  • 5 0
 Holding out for the Evo Kenevo with 53* head angle.
  • 1 0
 ^ most underrated comment.
  • 7 3
 So many with all the “motorcycle” b.s. Probably haven’t ridden a motorcycle or an e-bike.
  • 1 5
flag drivereight (Jan 20, 2020 at 12:54) (Below Threshold)
 KTM Freeride E-XC, it’s an EBike.
  • 2 1
 If I had just a short amount of time on the weekends to do as many DH laps as possible before getting back to my family, I would buy this and it would be worth every penny. I could spend more time doing what I really like, which is shredding downhill, without using up my whole available ride time climbing. I can always spin at home for fitness. This bike is perfect for a particular person, and although I am not that person now, I may be within the next ten years. I am glad I can ride a real bike for now, but I can see myself riding one of these in the future and will be glad they are an option.
  • 3 0
 It's an incredibly capable and fun beast. If you want more fitness, you can even climb fire roads with the power off. I have one, love it and rarely use my MTB.
  • 1 0
 I have to comment.
5’6” 121lbs. Rides a 470mm reach with 454mm chain stays. Says its a good balance.
Im 6’6” 265lbs. Wheres my 550mm reach 520mm chain stay bike with 1800wh battery

I recently briefly tested a levo.
the pedals must turn to engage the motor. To me it felt like you just sit and gently turn. Bike puts out max assist.
Have to be a serious athlete to put out 560watts for an hour and 20 minutes. (700wh battery)

Why bother with the speed limit. Whats up with that. Who chose the speed?
  • 2 0
 The rear shock is absolutely fine and does s good job , if you run the fight sag ( between 20/25% ) , you can’t run 35% sag on a heavy ebike and the moan about it being too linear ! Who is this chump ?
  • 2 1
 E-bikes were a game changer for my wife. Now she wants to ride as much as she can. She could never get her fitness to a high enough level for the climbs. We live in a very hilly part of Vermont. E-biking is a sport we can enjoy together.
  • 1 0
 I like the kenevo but i will buy one (Ebike) only when it will be possibel to repair the motor as easy as i have my drill or grinder repaired from one day to another and all the parts mech /electric avayable to buy and if all of you act the same way the manufactors didnt play with custmers as they do tell them to buy new K€£$ motor ...
They earn money from unaware people (sheeps)
  • 1 0
 I tell mine for whose that are still thinking id it's with it or no to go full electric: I'm 47 and began dh racing 20 years ago with a Vuillloz replica GT LTS 125mm, than RM r9... after 10 year break I started racing and having fun again with Demo 8, Intense M9, SC V10 & Glory 27.5, training with a Trance first and a Reign 27,5 in the end. Until I gave both the Reign and the Glory in to get the 2018 Kenevo Expert (wt Ohlins): believe or not, this is the first bike I don't want to change after 2 years 'cause is the one that -overall- I use the moist and it gave it to me the most fun, 'cause I don't have a chairlift nearby, neither a big mountain. So I save a lot of money without traveling around with my car, but I still enjoy discovering new trails uphill and especially downhill around home. And when I pick the van to go to some bike park I still have lot of fun with the "old" Kenevo. A lot of fun
  • 20 17
 So many nonsense comments written here, by people who don't have a clue. Your loss.
  • 12 3
 enlighten the luddites, please.
  • 4 2
 Completely agree! I don’t own one yet, but will. I have ridden a buddy’s Intense Tazer and have found I truly get in so many more laps, and still get almost as much physical benefits as a regular bike. I don’t know that there is any negatives.
  • 1 2
 @jolie: maintenance, manufacturing waste streams, cost...to name a few
  • 2 2
 Would have preferred 350 hubs instead of 370 (star ratchet seems more durable than hub and pawl, especially when throwing around a freeride bike of this weight), but, to be honest, the pricing doesn't seem that outrageous when comparing to their normal 100% pedal-powered bikes. Still a lot of money, but the engine and battery are probably one of the most expensive parts to manufacture (where for example a Fox Factory fork or shock will be only slightly more expensive to produce than a Performance version, but usually results in highly inflated MSRP's).
  • 9 0
 Seriously, at this price you’d think they would have thrown the extra $20 (or whatever the minimal sum they pay for it direct) for the star ratchet 350 to get a stronger and more reliable rear hub. As a consumer, I’m looking at maybe $300 for a new wheel just to upgrade a bike from essentially a throw away hub, Id rather pay an extra $50 just to have it done right the first time.
  • 2 1
 agreed, it hit my eyes as well, this is the weakest link in an otherwise sturdy mix of components...
  • 2 0
 @whambat: agreed, but it's something most brands do. And if they provide you with the option to upgrade parts, they charge nearly the full MSRP of the higher end part for the upgrade, making the option useless (it's better to select the cheaper part, sell it and buy the better part separately).
  • 1 0
 @Mac1987: plenty of brands do it, doesn’t mean I’m okay with it. But, it’s one thing in a $3-5k bike vs an $8k bike that is going to have a whole bunch extra torque on the rear hub with motor assist.
  • 1 0
 @whambat: agreed
  • 2 1
 Not that I am running out anytime soon and buying one BUT $8500 doesn't seem all that bad when a lot of top of the line XC or AM bikes easily run that much without a motor, battery and no fancy electronics.
  • 1 1
 I've always liked Specialized frame sectioning but this thing they are doing with higher standover heights is old news and I don't think this is an attractive frame. Its more restrictive from a ride-ability standpoint and not a good look from a design standpoint. Come on and clean up the side view of your frames so I want to buy a specialized again
  • 2 2
 My wife had Levo FSR and Levo, the FSR was not a bad bike, but it was not smooth when starting on a steep slope; jumpy was the way m wife described it. I got her a Pivot Shuttle and she loves the bike. I've taken it on a few short rides, a couple enduro styled jaunts, it's a sweet bike, you can feel the extra weight, but it's not too bad.

The Kenevo is a cool concept, more of a DH bike, but because you have power assist on the climbs you can use it for enduro. If I was to buy an ebike for my use, it would be something like the Kenevo.

I still think the ebike makers need to work on shortening those chainstays, there ain't no reason to have a 450mm RC.
  • 2 2
 Thanks to this thing, trail restrictions to trails won't be a problem anymore, and the forest patrol will change their mind on mountain biking and trail access. I'm sure they will love it, seeing it preserving nature and paths.
  • 2 0
 If they want a real test. Im 6’6” 265lbs.
But wait there is no 560mm reach 545mm chain stay bike with an equivalent 1500wh battery, and an 850lb spring!

Man.....
  • 2 2
 Lithium Ion Batteries on a bike intended to be abused is straight up irresponsible.

I got no beef with ebikes, but don't go telling people they can huck this thing down a rock garden with a powder keg at their crotch while they fly through a tinderbox.

Lithium batteries should not be put into a situation where there's risk of puncture. They were never intended for that.

I'd question how the cell manufacturer would allow their products to be used like this by another company and then resold, but when you know that Samsung, the company that ships exploding phones, is one of the leading manufacturers of Lithium Ion cells used in these ebikes you kinda just gotta shrug and go "welp what happens happens".

Trail/Enduro bikes were too far for Ebikes, DH bikes are ridiculous. a 50# bike tumbling down some steep shit smashing into a tree has a very real chance of turning into a formula-1-esque fireball. If you haven't seen an ebike fire you should check it out before scoffing at the thought.
  • 2 0
 Well, show us one.
  • 1 0
 @platnum: emotomag.com/dorna-reveals-cause-of-motoe-paddock-fire

One of the biggest ebike fires to date.

But seriously youtube has a bunch of them, most of which are DIY jobs but there are some that aren't....They all burn the same.
  • 3 1
 I would love to have one. Looks like so much fun. Shame to see there is so much hate out there. I don't understand the hate. Life is short. Keep an open mind.
  • 1 0
 People by nature tend to height what they don't know or what they can't have. I've been riding for almost 3 decades and is been always like that. If you got a sponsor they tell you great but on your back they talk crap and hate you because they didn't get it. If you got a new better bike, the tell you to enjoy it but on your back they hate you for the fact you can have it and they don't and the same happens with the E mountain bikes, most of the haters even know how feels but they hate us because first most of them can't afford them and they think they are better riders just by using the natural way. For me mountain biking is all about having fun, adventure and now ride more trails and go to places that on a natural bike will be almost impossible. Just feel sorry by the haters and keep smiling and having fun.
  • 1 0
 Those weights on the batteries are well out surely!? If they're not then talk about diminishing returns...

You could carry four or five 500wh batteries in your bag for the weight of the single 700wh!?
  • 6 3
 2020 and its finally starting to seem like the future
  • 6 4
 Still too heavy and expensive. Get back to me when it weighs 45 lbs at $5999 CAD.
  • 2 2
 @dwojo:
Not quite there weight wise (same weight/travel as kenevo) but given the $5800 price, the compromises seem a lot more palatable.


www.commencalusa.com/Mobile/meta-power-sx-c2x29149309
  • 1 1
 get a 2018 used comp, works great.
  • 4 2
 I don't understand why a downhill bike was the first platform to be Ebiked....
  • 9 0
 *edit* "...[wasn't] the first platform..."
  • 3 0
 it was road bikes first.
mechanical doping goes back at least 10 years.
www.cyclingnews.com/features/mechanical-doping-a-brief-history
  • 10 11
 Oh the irony... Specialized...the company that sued a coffee shop & bicycle store because they used the name Roubaix, called a bike model the Kenevo, which anyone with a brain should realize pronounces almost exactly the same as Knievel...
  • 3 0
 I wonder what Chris Farley's family would have to say about that.
  • 2 0
 I highly doubt anything will happen, unless Knievel's estate gets involved like Chris Farley's did with Trek. There's quite a few bikes named after celebrities though, especially using wordplay- big fan of Evil's Chamois Hagar.
  • 2 0
 ”Thanks to the powerful motor, running a gearing of 32-42 as the highest gear really isn’t an issue.” Hmm.
  • 4 5
 "One of the biggest ‘challenges’ I found I had to deal with is that the 2020 Kenevo kept asking for higher speeds, always staying composed with its dialed geometry and soaking up your regular obstacles with ease"

Challenge? If a 50-60kg motocross/supercross athlete can handle any breed of current 450 moto missiles, a 25-kg ebike shouldn't be a problem for most once they get used to it. Don't blame the bike.
  • 6 1
 Hi, I put 'challenge' in quotation marks, which makes a difference in terms of meaning. It was supposed to be somewhat funny. But maybe I should have been clearer. If a bike is asking to be hammered, it's a good thing. It's not the bike limiting you as a rider. So it's a challenge you can be happy about. Actually, it's not even a challenge. It's an invite ...
  • 1 1
 @ralf-hauser: Invite. I like it!
  • 1 3
 I’m waiting on the KTM Freeride E-XC review here on PB!
  • 4 2
 I got this even though I had the filter on. It’s ok though as I’d like to try it
  • 2 1
 Looks like a sick bike, but for the same price... you can also have the new E-Reign with Fox Factory, COMPLETE AXS, and burly intentions.
  • 8 7
 It is far far too long in the shortest size. Ruling it out for many, regardless of it's other attributes.
  • 6 4
 Did you read the review? He's 5.6" and chose the S3. Also, you should test ride it before ruling it out for shorter riders. The ETT is not super long.
  • 1 1
 Are you worried about reach or wheelbase? Because with that seat angle, the fit isn’t long.
  • 6 1
 The seat angle doesn't affect how long the bike feels when stood up though...
  • 2 1
 I wonder if Robbie Kenevo could of jumped Snake River Canyon on this?

youtu.be/q_cqmCtZmpI
  • 1 1
 Ralf, could you please point me out which trails around Vienna are the best to tackle with long travel bike? I have just moved to Vienna and I am excited to try those!
  • 1 1
 Can you direct message me next week? I'll try to put together some info for you then.
  • 1 0
 Thanks, will do!
  • 5 2
 FUCK YOU CHAIRLIFT
  • 4 3
 I don't want one, because if I would, it would made me feel very poor. Love everything about it but the price.
  • 4 3
 Ralf, Thanks for one of the best, most thorough reviews I've read on Pinkbike!!! Very refreshing.
  • 2 0
 $8200 for GX and RS Select. Awesome value!
  • 6 4
 Quiet motorcycles are a great idea.
  • 3 5
 I just spent a ton of $$$$ to upgrade my biking alter-ego from a 2016 27.5 enduro to a 2020 29er trail/am bike. In 2024 I can’t help but think next one will be an e-bike. Yup, I’m in my 40s, and to add insult to injury, I witnessed a pack of these e-bikers hustle up the gnarliest climb of my local trail at moto trials bike speed; the two leaders in front were in tip top shape. It was nuts, and still required skill even if you had a motor. Hopefully the e-bikers become a nicer bunch over time, but right now they seem to carry their e-shame heavily on e-assist sections (as pedal-people watch on).
  • 2 1
 Let the terminator era of life begin....judgement day is coming......dope...!
  • 2 4
 ". The smaller 27.5” wheels even make it pretty easy to flick the rear end hard into corners"

Pretty easy to flick into corners? Who believes this? When I read stuff like this it makes me believe this review is more like paid advertising. Also, since when does 6000 feet in climbing equal improved range. That's an average ride, by no means an epic. The last thing I would ever want on an epic is a 50lb + bike with a battery that will likely die before the end of the ride. I would never feel good about taking one of these into the outback.
  • 1 0
 @drivereight you've mentioned the KTM bike 5 times throughout this string. Are you getting paid by the mention?
  • 2 0
 What The f*ck Turbo Means?
  • 1 0
 Over $8000 and spec'ed with a DT 370 in the rear. Bare minimum for this should be a DT 350.
  • 1 0
 Can you manual these to get over over a log or ledge? I assume bunny hopping ain't gonna happen.
  • 1 0
 Why does the review cover climbing? Who cares, that is why someone would buy one of these overpriced mopeds.
  • 2 1
 So, almost the same axle path as the overly complex new Enduro....
  • 1 4
 I think they should but the plus tires back on the bike. I have the 2018 levo and the 2.8s on 40mm rims make it. The tester says the kenevo lacks small bump sensitivity when the shock is set up for hard hits. big tires would be my solution. Also if you on private land no reason not to unlock the bike. his feeling of the bike wanting more speed is the governor kicking in. 20mph is too slow and needs to be like 23mph to match the gearing.
  • 1 1
 ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb18128594/p5pb18128594.jpg
looks like he's riding a dirt bike
  • 1 0
 Nowadays ignorance is the main human dís capacity.
  • 1 0
 calling people ignorant whom i disagree with is an intellectual marker in and of itself.
  • 2 1
 Say good buy to your KOM on A-Line bitches
  • 1 1
 just get a Yamaha WR 250 better and you will get much more fun, or cake kalk OR if you want to go electric.
  • 1 0
 bike is so creaky in that video!
  • 1 2
 can't wait until these reviews start sporting dyno curves and every Joey picks up EE lingo. yea brah 50 amps at 5 rpms brah. mad torque yo.
  • 1 0
 Why did the go from a 1.3 to a 2.1 motor?!!!
  • 1 0
 The ultimate self-shuttle. I can’t lie, I totally want one.
  • 6 7
 Can we get a head to head comparison to a DRZ400?

The DRZ is only $7000 CDN dollars.
  • 6 2
 In Europe it is very complicated to ride a motorbike in the woods. But people have a muche better opinion about e-bikes... So it may be a good alternative.
  • 1 1
 freeride and electric?!no thanks
  • 1 0
 Perfect bike....!
  • 2 2
 Decoy or Levo??
  • 9 9
 Finally, a motorcycle!
  • 4 2
 yes it has a motor but comparing this to a xr400 is not very accurate. riding a moto up hill is very fun, downhill sucks. They weigh a bloody f*ck ton, that's a metric measurement. This "bike" looks killer and if i had the time and $9000 i would like to have one.
  • 1 1
 @chileconqueso: motos are great fun uphill AND downhill, just gotta ride them right Wink
  • 1 4
 @chileconqueso I use to ride a Honda Moped, it had bicycle cranks ad can pedal it. The new KTM Freeride E-XC would be comparable to this, would ride that on local trails where there EBikes go!
  • 1 0
 @klondike08: i wish i knew how!
  • 4 0
 @drivereight: are you just trolling?? - just can not tell nowadays if people are just winding other up on purpose, just for kicks and shits, or do people really think e-mountain-bikes move without pedalling .. ?
  • 1 0
 @drivereight: I don't believe the freeride that you speak of has pedals.
  • 6 7
 They make motorcycles with waterbottle cages now?....thats cool.
  • 2 0
 watercooled bro
  • 1 1
 Only 30 grand
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 I ThOuGhT tHiS wAs A bIkE sITe NoT a MoToRcYcLe SiTe !!11!11!!!!!1!!
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 uSe YoUR fILtEr FFS!!!
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 @platnum: use your sense of irony ffs and whilst you’re at it teach it to the other 5 poor souls who take themselves too seriously to understand a silly joke.
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 @philmtb99: You don't know what irony is do you Mario...

It is however quite ironic that you should tell someone to 'use there sense of irony' when there was nothing remotely ironic about what you said...

Moron...
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 @deadmeat25: the comment was intended to be ironic but you are too ignorant to understand even a simple joke. Anyway have fun with brexit!
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 @philmtb99: Have fun being owned by the Germans again...
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 @deadmeat25: well given that your beloved queen is German it sounds like you already are owned by the Germans ; )
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