Review: The Orbea Wild M-LTD Raises the Bar for eMTB

May 29, 2023
by Mike Kazimer  
Orbea's new Wild eMTB was introduced earlier this year, arriving at the party with revised geometry, a stiffer frame, and Bosch's latest motor. It's a full-power machine, and in Orbea's words it's “all about maximum fun on the craziest climbs and wildest descents.”

All of the models roll on 29” wheels and have 160mm of rear travel, but Orbea's MyO program allows for a wide range of configuration options. Riders can select from a 160 or 170mm fork, 625 Wh or 750 Wh battery, and there's even the option to add on a display or light package, and to customize the paint scheme.

The model reviewed here is the Wild M-LTD, which comes with Bosch's CX-Race motor. In addition to being lighter than the regular CX motor, the R version gets a Race mode that propels the bike forward a little longer after a rider stops pedaling.
Orbea Wild M-LTD Details

• Wheel size: 29"
• Carbon frame
• Bosch CX Race motor / 625 Wh battery
• Travel: 160mm (r) / 170mm fork
• 63.5º head angle (170mm fork)
• 77.5º seat tube angle
• 448mm chainstay
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Weight: 49.75 lb / 22.56 kg (size large w/o pedals)
• Price: $11,124 USD

Highlights of this particular build kit include a 170mm Fox 38 Factory fork, Float X2 shock, Shimano XTR brakes and 12-speed drivetrain, Maxxis Assegai / DHR II DH casing tires, and Orbea's own OQUO aluminum MC32 Team wheelset. That all adds up to $11,124 USD. Total weight, including the 625 Wh battery, was 49.75 lb / 22.56 kg.

bigquotesThere's a punching bag-like quality to the way the Wild absorbs obstacles – it seems to relish high-speed smashing, and can withstand some serious hits without getting hung up or knocked off line. Mike Kazimer

Colored LEDs display the battery level and motor mode, and a wireless remote reduces cockpit clutter.

Frame Details

The biggest change to the Wild's frame for 2023 is the elimination of the door that used to be on the underside of the downtube to access the battery. Battery hatches tend to add weight and reduce frame stiffness, and according to Orbea the new design increased the front triangle stiffness by 52% - that's a significant number. Now, the downside is that swapping batteries quickly isn't really feasible; riders looking for the longest range possible will want to choose the 750 Wh option.

Orbea did a great job of eliminating any unnecessary bells and whistles on the Wild. All too often, it seems like eMTBs show up with big displays, awkward remotes, and a rat's nest of wires cluttering the cockpit. With the Wild, there's a small wireless remote on the left hand side of the handlebar, Bosch's System Controller integrated into the top tube, and that's it. It's clean, effective, and there aren't any delicate parts waiting to get smashed to bits in a crash.

A series of LED lights indicate the battery level, and another light at the top of the display shows what mode the bike is in. There are four customizable modes: Eco, Tour+, eMTB, and Race. It's possible to add on Bosch's Kiox display for riders that want to see more information at a glance, but I'm a fan of the less is more approach – knowing what the mode and the battery percentage is all the information I need.


As for the motor itself, the CX-R motor puts out up to 85 Nm of torque, and provides up to 400% rider assistance in Race mode, versus the 340% from the standard version. It's also 150 grams lighter than that CX Performance model.

The charging port is located at the base of the seat tube, hidden under a sturdy plastic cover. This is another area that all to often gets overlooked – getting the design right on this small part is harder than it seems.

Other details include a straight seat tube the provides plenty of space for running a longer travel dropper post, room for a water bottle inside the front triangle, and thru-headset cable routing. I know, another bike with this silly design trend. I'm still not a fan, but this iteration does seem to deal with the elements better than the versions that place the cable ports in the headset top cap, and Orbea did go with a stainless steel upper bearing to improve its lifespan



Geometry & Sizing

The Wild's geometry numbers are fairly similar to the Rallon, its non-motorized enduro-oriented sibling. With a 160mm fork the head angle sits at 64-degrees, the reach of a size large measures 480mm, and the chainstays are 448mm across the board. I measured a head angle of 63.5-degrees with the 170mm fork installed on my test bike.

We're used to bikes getting longer, lower, and slacker, but in this case Orbea actually increased the bottom bracket height by 5 millimeters to decrease the number of pedal strikes. The head tube length of the size large is 130mm, which crates a nice and tall front end, fitting to the Wild's more descent-oriented intentions.

All four sizes use the same size chainstays and 29” wheels, which could make this a lot of bike for smaller riders to toss around. Having the option to run a 27.5” rear wheel without changing the geometry would be welcome feature – maybe we'll see an aftermarket link released like Orbea has done in the past.


Suspension Design

The Wild uses a concentric pivot around the rear axle, with a seat tube mounted rocker link driving the 205x65mm trunnion mounted shock to deliver 160mm of rear wheel travel. The leverage ratio is progressive, although the level of progression has been reduced slightly from the prior model.


Price $11124
Travel 160mm
Rear Shock Fox Float X2
Fork Fox 38 Float Factory 170mm
Headset Alloy 1-1/2", Black Oxidated Bearing
Cassette Shimano XTR 12-speed, 10-51 tooth
Crankarms e*thirteen Race Carbon
Bottom Bracket Bosch Performance CX Race / 625 Wh battery
Rear Derailleur Shimano XTR
Chain Shimano CN-9100
Shifter Pods Shimano XTR
Handlebar OC Mountain Control MC10 carbon
Stem OC Mountain Control MC10, 40mm
Grips Race Face
Brakes Shimano XTR 4-piston
Wheelset OQUO MC32 Team Aluminum
Tires Maxxis Assegai / DHR II, MaxxGrip DH casing
Seat Fizik Terra Aidon
Seatpost Fox Transfer Factory


Test Bike Setup

With a 40mm stem in place and the bars trimmed to 780mm I didn't need to do anything out of the ordinary to adjust the cockpit to my liking.

For the suspension, I set the Fox 38 fork up with 95 psi (10 psi more than I'd run on a regular bike) and the low- and high-speed compression a few clicks from fully open. Orbea suggest setting up the Float X2 with 28 – 33% sag, so I stuck with 30%.

The Wild showed up with a Maxxis Assegai up front and a DHR II in the rear, both with DH casings and MaxxGrip rubber, an ideal option for the wet weather riding that was in store. I ran 21 psi for the front and 23 psi for the rear.

Mike Kazimer
Location: Bellingham, WA, USA
Height: 5'11" / 180cm
Inseam: 33" / 84cm
Weight: 160 lbs / 72.6 kg
Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
Instagram: @mikekazimer



Getting up technical climbs on an eMTB isn't always about pedaling and praying. Sure, sometimes that technique will work, but in other instances you'll just end up looping out and looking over your shoulder to find a soft spot to land. Climbing success is determined more by how the motor's power is delivered, and the climbing position dictated by the bike's geometry. Sticky, grippy tires and an effective suspension design help too, and as it turns out the Wild possesses all of those crucial characteristics.

The Wild will blast up short, punchy climbs with ease, but it's also possible to creep up extra-steep, technical sections the way a rock crawler would. Grab some brake here, a half pedal stroke there, top it off with a final out-of-the-saddle lunge and the Wild will get up some seriously awkward sections of trail. The Bosch motor obviously plays a large role in this equation, but the geometry shouldn't be overlooked. The seated climbing position is upright and centers the rider between the wheels, reducing the number of times you'll need to make dramatic weight shifts to maintain traction. When it is time to stand up, the higher front end makes it easier to lift the front end up and over obstacles.

For a good portion of the test period I was under the impression that my test bike had a 750 Wh battery, mainly due to the impressive range that I was getting. My numbers were comparable, and sometimes better, than when I did the same lap on a Specialized Tubo Levo with a 700 Wh battery. Part of the credit for that range lies with the Bosch's Tour+ mode. In this mode the motor senses how hard you're pedaling, decreasing the amount of support it provides on flat sections of trail, and increasing it when the grade gets steeper. It feels very natural, and for most rides it's the mode I used while climbing or on rolling terrain.

As I mentioned in the recent Crestline review, another bike with Bosch's race motor, I don't think Race mode is necessary for most riders, myself included. It's fun to play with, but the amount of power and the additional overrun make it a lot to handle on really technical sections of trails – the bike is a lot more manageable in the other modes.



Coming up with geometry numbers that work well in a wide range of situations without making too many compromises can be tricky, but the Wild seems to hit the sweet spot. The 63.5-degree head angle (with a 170mm fork) is slack enough for the steepest steeps, and the 448mm chainstays provide plenty of stability without feeling unwieldy on tighter section of trail.

The concept of e-bike racing still seems silly to me, but after my time on the Wild I'd put this electric machine on my short list of bikes I'd want to roll up to a starting line on. It feels incredibly composed at higher speeds while descending, where the tall front end and slack head angle put the rider into a secure, ready for anything position.

There's a punching bag-like quality to the way the Wild absorbs obstacles – it seems to relish high-speed smashing, and can withstand some serious hits without getting hung up or knocked off line. Bigger jumps and drops didn't pose any problems, and even when I used all of the travel there wasn't any unwanted clanking or harshness at the end of the stroke.

I didn't ride the previous version of the Wild, so I can't comment on the frame stiffness difference between the two, but I can say that this model feels extremely solid, in a good way. It doesn't feel quite as plush or bottomless as the Ibis Oso, but it does strike a great balance between being soft enough off the top to take the edge of chattery sections of trail while retaining enough support to avoid using the travel too quickly. It's the sort of bike that makes you want to go fast, just to see what'll happen, one of my favorite traits in any bike, motorized or not.

The Wild doesn't feel overly heavy, even though its actual weight is a few pounds heavier than Orbea originally claimed when it was first released – I have a hunch that 46-pound weight was for a size small with carbon wheels and silly light tires. In real life, the 50 pound weight with DH tires and aluminum wheels for the version I tested feels appropriate, and it's in-line with bikes like the Santa Cruz Bullit, Transition Repeater.



What's the Best Value?

If I was on a budget I wouldn't be shopping for an eMTB, but that doesn't mean it's not worth considering which models present the best value. Personally, I'd be looking at the aluminum Wild H10, which is $7,034 USD. The parts spec is solid, with a 160mm Fox Performance fork and Float X shock, Shimano SLX cassette, XT derailleur, and Deore 4-piston brakes. I'd spring for the DH-casing tires and call it good, although I'd also consider budgeting an extra $100 or so for a 170mm air spring, or treating myself and adding $369 to the price to get the bike equipped with a 170mm Fox 38 Grip2 fork.

Orbea Wild
Transition Repeater

How Does It Compare?

The Orbea Wild and the Transition Repeater both have 160mm of rear travel, 29” wheels, and similar geometry numbers. The head angle and reach are the same for a size large, and there's only a 3mm difference in wheelbase. Handling wise they're not worlds apart, although the Wild does have shorter chainstays (448 vs 455mm), which makes it a little easier to get the front end up or slap the rear wheel through corners.

It's really the motor that's the main differentiator, and in this match-up the point goes to Bosch. Shimano's EP8 motor requires pedaling at a higher cadence to get the most out of it, and its power delivery doesn't feel nearly as natural as Bosch's. It also still relies on a wired display, and the battery level seem to drop much more quickly once the 20% / 1 bar level is reached. The EP8 is also louder while pedaling (and coasting) than the Bosch motor, and the Wild is a quieter, less rattly bike in general compared to the Repeater.


Technical Report

Headset: The Wild has been through some seriously nasty testing conditions – deep puddles, tons of mud, snow; pretty much all of the elements that can wreak havoc on bearings. The headset bearings are still spinning smoothly, and don't show any signs of needing to be serviced or replaced any time soon. I'm still not a fan of the extra hassle that thru-headset cable routing brings (I said some very bad words when I dropped the split aluminum headset spacers while working on the Wild), but in this case the design does seem to be well sealed against the elements.

Battery removal: The Wild's battery isn't removable without also removing the motor, an inconvenience Orbea accepted in order to increase the frame's stiffness. After reading that Orbea's team mechanics are able to swap a battery in 15 minutes I decided to try for myself. It took me a lot longer than 15 minutes, mainly because I was flying blind without any clear instructions, but I can see how that number is feasible with practice. Unless you're a privateer e-bike racer or someone who's planning on flying with their e-bike (which sounds like a pain no matter how easy the battery is to remove) I don't think that the lack of a quick-release battery is much of an issue.

Rotors: The rotors pictured in this review aren't the stock Galfer rotors the bike comes with – I was doing some experimenting with different pad / rotor combinations to minimize the amount of noise and maximize power. The stock configuration works well, but I'd recommend going with a 220mm front rotor for even more control.

Fox Float X2 shock: The X2 has gotten something of a bad rap over the last few seasons due to what seemed to be quality control issues. The shock on the Wild hasn't had any issues so far, and it's well past the point that I would have expected any to appear.



+ Extremely calm and composed in the steeps & at speed
+ Powerful Bosch motor with wireless controller and simple display
+ Customizable built kits allow for a wide range of build options


- Integrated battery decreases the potential for mega-long, multi-battery missions.
- Thru-headset cable routing is well sealed, but it's still more of a hassle to work on
- No mixed wheel options on smaller (or any) sizes

Pinkbike's Take

bigquotes When I reviewed the Specialized Turbo Levo two years ago I called it the 'new benchmark', a bike that set the standard for full-powered ebikes. That bike still holds ups well, but it's no longer in a class of its own. In fact, when it comes to outright speed and range, the Wild surpasses it.

The new Wild may have been designed with racing in mind, but there's no need to ever go near a race course to enjoy it. It's fast, powerful, and incredibly composed while climbing and descending, making it an excellent all-rounder for riders who prefer their trails on the trickier, more technical side of things.
Mike Kazimer

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  • 165 7
 Opens link, wow this looks like a killer bike, sees picture of headset routing, nevermind.
  • 15 3
 pretty much what i look out for these days
  • 65 25
 I have about 10 rides on my new Wild. It has been a bit of a learning curve. I’m now getting comfortable and am amazed at how capable this bike is. I’m 51 and have a fairly extensive history of injury. The last few years have been less than fun for me, pedalling my Ripmo. This bike has allowed me to get out and ride big days. Haters gonna hate and thats cool. I respect people’s opinions. I too was anti emtb for YEARS. I’ve finally got my head around the fact that e works for me now.
  • 36 0
 @BermJunky: wrong comments here against headset cables comment
  • 7 3
 @NZRalphy: ya somehow managed to put it in the wrong spot.
  • 19 3
 Test rode one, immediately sold my Enduro, ordered a Wild and waiting for it to arrive. I have crossed over to the Darkside 0/ !!! These are game-changing!!!
  • 14 6
 @BermJunky: Everyone makes his/her own choices of course.
Mine is to accept that age comes with wear and tear. I am now 53, and for sure I can not do what I could when I was younger. I did a 100km+ mixed gravel/mtb trails ride yesterday, in a little above 5 hours. I would have been faster in my younger years, and I would probably have skipped the café stop with apple pie. But who cares? I'm not in a race. I had a blast, that's all that matters.
And if I can no longer do such distances, or ride slower, then hopefully I'll just enjoy what I still can do. I'm pretty sure a 2 hour ride will feel like a 'big day' when I'm 65, and that's fine with me.
  • 8 1
 @WhateverBikes: that’s great. Whatever works for you. I agree, it’s all about fun and what you get out of it.
  • 6 4
 Pecisely the reason i switched back to a levo its just less faff
  • 5 7
 @Compositepro: u you oh mean the bike with arguably the highest failure rate?
  • 2 1
 @Compositepro: sorry! Didn’t mean to direct that comment toward you! Stupid fat fingers.
  • 5 35
flag corerider (May 29, 2023 at 16:45) (Below Threshold)
 @BermJunky: Maybe it is time to give up the sport if pedalling is less than fun.
  • 25 2
 @corerider: no I’m good. Thanks for your concern though.
  • 2 5
 @BermJunky: that's what she said!
  • 12 1
 @BermJunky: I can’t wait until I’m in my 50s to have a valid excuse for the ebike I already own! I justify it now, because it’s a Levo SL, just a baby motor.
  • 12 1
 @PtDiddy: enjoy! And who the eff cares what anyone thinks.
  • 15 0
 @BermJunky: You joy life a lot more when you stop caring what others think!
  • 5 0
 @BermJunky: mine hasnt failed but i have a really nice little sideline servicing and modifying both brose and bosch motors my experience in the rather damp uk means that these things seem to fill wath water easier than my bathtub and , grit round here tends to grind things to be pieces, so if you can mod the motors to carry more seals !!! however i learned my lesson with a focus sam which had through the stem routing and what a pig to work on that
  • 7 0
 @BermJunky: i wouldnt worry its the comments section on pinkbike its not real life
  • 5 0
 @WhateverBikes: wear and tear is what the rheumatologist says is in my feet the wrist is due to 3 breaks i just thought id at least get into my 50s before the wear and tear started showing signs, doesnt matter though i spent 30 good years smashing round on non electric models and wouldnt change it because its all fun and good times
  • 2 2
 Check it out in person, it looks super clean.
  • 10 0
 @BermJunky: 65 here, bought my EMTB this year, not a Wild but a Decoy, best $4500 I ever spent, used to hate the ebikers on the trail now I'm one and loving it
  • 1 0
 One day I’m gonna get one of these e-bikes with headset cable routing and get plastic cable grabbers with sticky tape and route my stuff externally
  • 1 1
 Yeah... WTF is up with that? WHY WHY WHY?
  • 47 5
 My mate just got his 2nd team edition last Monday, it’s being picked up tomorrow for a full refund. The build quality is shit, his first one looked like it was painted by a blind man, the second one looked like it was painted by a blind man using his feet.
  • 68 1
 I'm confused. Was the second blind man using the feet of the first blind man?
  • 24 0
 It was actually a fully sighted man painting like a blind man because his brushes were fed first through a 1-1/8 inch bearing race cups and headtube.
  • 3 0
 @hornedreaper33: judging by how bad the paint looked I would think that’s highly possible.
  • 4 3
 That’s shit luck. Sorry to hear it. My bike showed up with the best paint Ive seen. There have been some early paint QC issues so hopefully Orbea sorts that out RFN.
  • 3 0
 @NZRalphy: wrong comment spot? Hahaha
  • 23 17
 Build quality and paint jobs are not the same thing. I mean, I don't really care either way, I don't own an orbea and probably never will, but sending a mountainbike back for a full refund cos you don't like the paint finish is really the epitome of everything that has gone wrong in this sport in the past decade. Mtb was a much better sport when it was punk as fuck.
  • 41 4
 @gabiusmaximus: I might not be hardcore enough, brah, and the epitome of everything wrong with Western civilization in the last 50 years, but if I pay over $11k for a bike, they’re gonna get that shit absolutely perfect.
  • 5 22
flag Muscovir (May 30, 2023 at 0:50) (Below Threshold)
 Returning an otherwise perfectly good bike because you (or your mate for that matter) didn’t like the paint finish?

Tell me you are an e-biker without telling me you are an e-biker.

Seriously though, that just screams decadence and, like others have pointed out, in a nutshell is basically everything that’s wrong with this sport.
  • 3 15
flag samanual (May 30, 2023 at 1:35) (Below Threshold)
 Also try to use better metaphors dude. I'm sure some people who are blind are great at painting, as are people who have or prefer to use their feet.

Ps *build quality*? Take it to your local bike shop?
  • 15 3
 @Muscovir: That's the dumbest thing I've heard today. Yeah, spending $10K + on a NEW bike, receiving it with a shitty paint job, and returning it because of shit paint job....that's what you think is "wrong with this sport?" Give me a break. So, if you ordered a new car with a custom paint job, got it delivered and it looked like crap, you'd shrug it off and still take delivery? Highly doubt it.
  • 27 2
 Stop the headset routing and don’t have a 7 year old paint the frames!
  • 8 8
 And get the valves lined up with the XXs in Maxxis FFS! Looks like a 7 year old put the tyres on too...
  • 5 5
 To add. Having lights to generalize how much battery life is left to the 20% vs an actual percentage is a positive? Hmm! How about doing it right and adding a digital display (like Specialized did) and not cheeping out on an already not cheap bike!
  • 6 9
 @korev: absolutely not ! there’s a psi indication on Maxxis tires and that is the most logical thing to align with the valve ! It’s the only way to mount Maxxis tires.
You are welcome
  • 2 0
 @korev: sorry I read too fast, you are saying the same thing !
  • 8 0
 @chicane32, there are actually two different color lights for each bar, so it’s indicating the levels to the 10%.
  • 2 0
 @LyO177: Absolutely: align the valve with the PSI indication... then take a permanent marker and blacken this ***** maxxis logo. Dirt and violence will do the rest Smile
  • 8 0
 @korev: I used to not line up my valve stems with tire logs cause I didn’t know it was a thing. Now I don’t line them up on purpose. Cheers.
  • 25 7
 Only dry guys hate on Eebs. Seriously, people have been loading bikes into trucks to shuttle and taking chairlifts for years because a high percentage of riders live for the downs. I see so many people hiking their bikes uphill even with a dropper and dinner plate cassette. Every time I grab my regular bikes I wish I would have grabbed the eeb so I could ride more and have more fun on the ups. You can still get a workout, just don’t ride in boost the entire fvcking ride, and also don’t be a dick and buzz people on the climbs or leave your non eeb equipped friends in the dust if you chose to ride together. In the grand scheme of things they are just plain fun and take whatever you’ve got and let you do more with it.
  • 20 2
 "the R version gets a Race mode that propels the bike forward a little longer after a rider stops pedaling"
  • 42 6
 Shouldn’t that be the C version with Cheat mode?
  • 66 7
 Kinda sounds like this is getting away from the pedal assist and more into full on shouldn’t be in the trails..
  • 3 5
 It's not as impressive as it sounds. It's like a 1 sec burst, if that. I would've preferred it to be called super turbo, but you can't have everything.
  • 25 26
 @Robstyle: Anna that's what they call a slippery slope.
One second now, two seconds next year, no pedaling needed in a few years from now.
E-bikes are ruining everything that made cycling so f*cking awesome in the first place.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, I think we really need a dumb-this-down-for-me article here on Pinkbike regarding assisted bike racing. Isn't it likely that more of us don't understand what it is about, what the rules are etc? Currently I have the following questions.

1) Is there a max capacity of battery you can take along on a race?

2) I understand that there is a "boost mode" which exceeds the 250W assistance for a "short" while. Is there a max output to this boost mode and is there max duration to this "short" while?

3) Now there is this "overrun" thing which keeps providing assistance for up to one second after the rider stops pedaling. Seems to me that if you're ratcheting up a steep tech climb, you'll just end up with a steady output to the rear wheel. Is that correct? Seems to me like this removes part of the fun from technical climbing (and climbing is pretty boring if you remove the tech). Is there a max limit to how long this overrun is allowed to be (in competition)? And also, is there an "emergency button" of some kind when you suddenly don't want the overrun? I can imagine at times you need to power through one section but then ease off to not smash into the next obstacle and you don't have time to go through menus to change modes.

Thanks for the clarifications!
  • 16 7
 "bUt yOu sTiLL haVE tO pEdAl e-bIKes, aNd iTS sTiLl a wOrKoUt! TheY'rE nOT mOpEDs!!"
  • 3 0
 @vinay: Overrun is highly annoying in anything technical or tight. Don't see the benefit myself..
  • 1 1
 @Otago: annoying or dangerous? Unexpected propulsion sounds like a disaster.
  • 17 6
 While I get it, eMTBs are getting people out when otherwise they couldn't, it seems any capable and strong rider on one is having no end of issues. (at least in my limited circle) IMO bike geometry has plateaued and I find no reason to upgrade to the latest and greatest, is this why eMTBs are being pushed so hard?
  • 65 57
 Hi, capable and strong 22 year old rider here. Ebikes allow me to ride more trails, faster, or squeeze shorter rides into my busy schedule that would otherwise be impossible. They only get better every year with new technology and companies entering the market. What's not to love?
  • 48 14
 @dylananderson: You mean in the time you have to ride you can go longer distances. Until they add time travel to your eBike you aren't actually creating time. Not to love list: 1. Price, 2. Erosion of self-propelled sports access.3. weight 4. Incessant smiles on eBikers faces during climbs. 5. Difficult access to parts and service 6. Reduced water bottle sales as eBikers dont need hydration. 7. Fewer real bikes in stock at the shop as eBikes take up floor space. 8. The need to continuously complaint about ebikes in the PB comments section...
  • 18 15
 @dylananderson: Sounds exactly like the average Marketing bullshit.
  • 4 7
 @dylananderson: Hi. Middle aged declining man here, compensating for skills and endurance with spend on all things two-wheeled. Everyone I know who has an mtb ebike has had at least major issue with the motor/drive. Is yours holding up?
  • 10 4
 @The-Spirit-of-Jazz: I'm on my second e-bike, 4 seasons of riding between the 2, zero motor/drive issues
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 @mjraff: which motors did/do they have?
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 @dylananderson: Totally agree, life has a tight schedule balancing 50hr working weeks, 2x kids under 6, a beautiful wife and beer drinking, ebikes are a no brainer and are super enjoyable to now make uphills fun ! P.S. highly recommend a smashpot conversion to an ebike fork, if you know you know Smile
  • 5 4
 @The-Spirit-of-Jazz: no issues yet but only at 400 miles as many of my local trails have been closed following winter storms and ive spent most of winter/spring on my road bike. the bike shop i work at sees maybe 1/100 ebikes coming back with any sort of motor issue, honestly no more common than carbon frame breakage from impacts.
  • 12 2
 @The-Spirit-of-Jazz: I've had my decoy base with an ep8 2 1/2 years, put well over a million feet vert on it. No motor issues, 3 chains, 1 derailleur and a boat load of brake pads and tires. Mostly ride fast blacks and steep double blacks.
And before anybody asks I do a ton of trail maintenance (about 80 days since I bought it).
  • 2 8
flag dylananderson (May 29, 2023 at 13:42) (Below Threshold)
 @pink505: figured that went without saying... 1. you can get around this by working for a bike shop on the weekends and unlocking sweet deals that make bike purchases a profitable investment. 2. totally agree, ive almost crashed into many a boomer riding up a trail that he wouldn't have been able to without a motor. they really need to start requiring licenses for these things. 3. mine's 42lbs only marginally heavier than my buddy's aluminum enduro rig, and you don't feel it on the trail. 4. the climbs still hurt, but its definitely fun to go faster. 5. maybe things are different in Canada but in the US we've been over our covid supply chain issues for a while now. only thing ive struggled getting is a T-Type chainring for my TQ motor :/ eta early summer. 7. ebikes sell better than "real" bikes these days and don't take up any more space. 8. see above
  • 14 12
 @fred-frod: sounds exactly like the average salty boomer who still rides a rigid hardtail and complains about how suspension overcomplicates the pure sport of mountain cycling
  • 3 4
 @glenno: ill look into it, honestly haven't been super stoked on my Lyrik ultimate even after a month tuning it with a shockwiz.
  • 9 9
>What's not to love?

50lbs that's what.

And there's the cost...

When battery technology improves enough to remove the massive weight penalty what you're saying will make perfect sense. Right now though you're listing only the positives while pretending none of the negatives exist
  • 31 35
flag ranchitup (May 29, 2023 at 14:10) (Below Threshold)
 E-bikers will use every excuse before just admitting they are lazy and don't want to work for their descents. Everyone has a busy schedule, yet many of us still find time to ride real mountain bikes.
  • 2 1
 @dylananderson: Do you have the MY23?
I have that and besides the mid-support it's one of my least favorite forks to date. So harsh.
  • 8 19
flag WhateverBikes (May 29, 2023 at 15:26) (Below Threshold)
 @dylananderson: Please elaborate how an e-bike helps you 'squeeze in shorter rides into your busy schedule'.
If you have, say, an hour and a half available for a ride, why can't you go for a ride on a normal bike in that time?
  • 3 20
flag WhateverBikes (May 29, 2023 at 15:29) (Below Threshold)
 @dylananderson: That salty boomer would be correct.
Let me quote your own comment directly underneath your 'salty boomer' comment:
"ill look into it, honestly haven't been super stoked on my Lyrik ultimate even after a month tuning it with a shockwiz."

I'd say a month of tuning your suspension (and still not getting it right) would count is overcomplicating. I rode my rigid 1994 mtb for 5 hours yesterday, no tuning necessary.
  • 7 5
 @WhateverBikes: maybe "super stoked" is a metric beyond your boomer understanding. its great, just not amazing. stoked but not 'super' stoked
  • 18 10
 @WhateverBikes: crazy concept here: motor makes you go faster so instead of going for a 1.5hr ride and skipping the shower and lunch before classes, I can knock it out in an hour and take the shower and have some food. furthermore, if I only have 45 minutes to ride and theres no loops that short without pedal assist, instead of not riding at all I can do it in that timeframe. also it goes without saying that if I can ride 2 trails in an hour on an analog bike or 3-4 trails in an hour on an ebike, im gonna take my ebike 10 times out of ten.
  • 16 4
 @dylananderson: It's not worth trying to reason with some people. Their whole persona and thoughts about mountain biking are as rigid and harsh as their bike.
  • 2 8
flag generictrailrider (May 29, 2023 at 16:16) (Below Threshold)
 @dylananderson: the motor and the weight. We can start with those 2 things not to love.
  • 19 4
 @ranchitup: I NEVER wanted to work or worked for my descents. I've hated "up" since I got my first Bushpilot in maybe 1990. I've been shuttling and riding lifts since we discovered wood features and rickety stunts in maybe 2000. I remember the early days and shuttle / chairlift was the way we did things on those heavy huckster bikes. Monster T's with 24" tires on the chair was the only way to ride.

An ebike is just a self shuttle lift device.
  • 12 8
 @generictrailrider: my ebike weighs less than a lot of enduro bikes. the motor makes me go faster. sounds like you like going slower on a marginally lighter bike. couldnt be me man
  • 7 14
flag generictrailrider (May 29, 2023 at 16:38) (Below Threshold)
 @dylananderson: marginally lighter? My bike is 23 pounds (or 46%) lighter than this pig. Enjoy your ebike.
  • 22 0
 @voleman: I don’t even own an ebike, but this is a completely valid argument, as are the ones about time usage.Not everyone rides for the same reasons or in the same style. Additionally if what you’re choosing to focus on is gravity (historically something this website focused on to my knowledge), then having a means of self-shuttling is completely valid. Also, what if you want to work on the same feature over and over again, to get it figured out just right? An ebike would enable you to do that. It’s funny nobody is sitting in the comments on posts about bike parks going “lazy a*sholes. Hike a bike up the mountain and earn your turns”
  • 11 8
 @generictrailrider: i doubt your bike has 160mm of travel, grippy tires with inserts, and all the tools you'll ever need plus a pump and CO2... the last 23lb bike I built was an S-Works Epic with paper thin XC tires and rims that would buckle under the abuse I put my Fuel Ex-E through. Your false equivalency belies your ignorance and unfounded hatred towards ebikes. truly sad
  • 10 2
 @tacopop: I much prefer my 50lb Levo to the 41lb KSL I had before it. You truly do get used to the weight and somehow learn to love it. Sounds crazy I know, but take it from a recovering weight weenie
  • 2 1
 @dylananderson: ah it's a trek fuel ex e. That will be fine with that motor (I reckon). Its the shimano motors I had mainly heard the reliability issues about but heartened to hear the other anecdotes.
  • 3 7
flag generictrailrider (May 30, 2023 at 8:40) (Below Threshold)
 @dylananderson: I never said my bike was 23 pounds (reading is hard, I know) and I don’t hate these motorbikes. I’ll get one when I’m old. Late.
  • 2 3
 @dylananderson: As you seem to blindly recite the marketing bla bla again: EMTB are not an evolutionary step for mountainbikes, they are simply a different thing. However the self perception of what Kind of Biker you are seems to be very fragile.
  • 1 0
 @voleman: Yep and there's nothing wrong with that. I love some good shuttle laps or bike park on days when I'm feeling lazy. If I were to ever buy an e-bike it would be for the same reasons I do either of those activities.
  • 9 0
 @ranchitup: LOL just ride the same amount of time but do twice the laps. It’s fun as all hell.
  • 10 1
 @dylananderson: Sit back and laugh at all the trolling haters. You and I can get on enjoying life to the max: our very own shuttle to some of the best trails, particularly those that are not accessible via uplift services.

The overwhelming majority of riders I bump into show nothing but interest in ebikes with many considering their first purchase. In fact, there are now so many on the trails we ride in Scotland and Wales that sometimes, they're actually more the norm. Otherwise, at the park, we're all enjoying an uplift.

I'm with you - fit as much riding as you can into a busy life. The more this annoys the hating dullards, the more pleasurable it all is.
  • 1 0
 @Blownoutrides: I'm sure it is
  • 10 3
 Trading approx 2 ft of wire, that is flexible and can be tucked right up next to the bar, for another battery (even though there is a f*cking huge one right there) and 2 radios... Yeah, seems like the stupidest decision. Nice and good for the environment.

(I've already heard more stories about uncharged batteries than I can recall ever hearing about derailleur cables breaking on a ride)
  • 11 4
 Goty 2023 M-Team about aonth ago and the bike is fantastic! I ride Moto so I am loving that MTB is going this direction. You want do the cross country stuff, cool. I like Enduro and downhill stuff with some obstacles and some air time.

And this bike delivers!! And I can do sessions or laps ☺️

If your style of riding doesn't suit this class of riding, cool....go do your thing.
  • 8 0
 Do the research and you will find the Wild is spec's top shelf for 1,500 + less than stuff with less components....yes Specialized, Santa Cruz, Yeti, Pivot....talking to you
  • 15 6
 Reassuringly expensive for the brain dead contingent
  • 8 0
 I like that they listed XL first in the geo chart. I feel seen.
  • 2 0
  • 7 0
 I rode a non-ebike that weighed 47 pounds up and down for a few years so 49 pounds for a full out ebike is doable.
  • 7 0
 When you need to increase frame stiffness by 52% you've probably done something very wrong before
  • 4 1
 Ok. It's a beauty of a bike. It feels like it plows down the worst stuff without batting an eye and climbs like N1NO on dope..

BUT each time I'm setting it up for a customer, seeing all to those cables run through the upper headset bearing and the hassle / clumsyness of the stem & spacers it makes me wanna cry / vomit.

WHY ORBEAAAAA WHYYYYY. Also the new Rise and OIZ?!?!?!?!?!?
  • 1 0
 As an owner of the new oiz, I'd like to say it makes sense on the oiz, and only the oiz. The old oiz had a rats nest of a cockpit, that was extremely loud. The new routing looks very clean despite 4 cables running through it, and is very quiet. My only complaint is the top plate of the headset is extremely flimsy and broke on day one prompting hours of work to rerun all the cables through the warrantied plate, no problems with it since...
  • 3 0
 I was going to get a new bike this year and the build I wanted was around $7-8k USD. I picked up an M10 with some upgrades and custom paint for about $9k. The bike shoot outs they have on PB usually have non-ebikes above $10k. I think the Orbea was a great deal, Fox factory kashima suspension, XT brakes and drive train. All very reliable parts especially for an e-bike. I love my V1 Sentinel and will keep that as it suits me fine. The 750w battery is amazing, I had a 504w on my Tazer and I get so much more riding in on this thing.
  • 3 0
 This bike is amazing it wants to go so fast I can not even keep up I came from a new trans spire and the suspension on this kills the spire, I never expected an ebike to ride so well so well in fact I feel like it is simply too fast for my old ass
  • 1 0
 There is definitely an adjustment period. The bike loves speed!
  • 7 1
 Gotta raise the bar if you want to run the cables under them amirite?
  • 3 1
 "If I was on a budget I wouldn't be shopping for an eMTB"

Seems kind of a ridiculous thing to say. But hey why not make biking even more elitist. And value doesn't equate to budget. Value compares apples to apples.

What if you are shopping for an eMTB on a budget? There loads of options. That doesn't stop $11K being absurd.
  • 5 1
 What's the hp and torque output? Looking for something that requires minimal pedaling like a moped.
  • 3 2
 51 laps around the Sun. Left total shoulder replaced, right knee total replacement. I still ride single speeds, steel frames, full squish bikes for the gnar. I prefer olde timey Omish bikes. Too dumb to stop. If I was to go the way of the eeb, it would be Sur Ron style, for 1/2 the price of these e-bikes. Whatever blows yer skirt up.
  • 3 2
 Just ride a good one for a day. Fun as all hell and still a workout.
  • 1 0
 met a 71 year old guy in the trail/ he said dont stop moving or youll die. inspiration. these ebike guys are in lala land.
  • 9 5
 Always amuses me when reviewers use phrases such as "the power delivery feels natural".
  • 1 0
 If you can daydream that your Olympic level athlete - sure, the power will feel "natural"
  • 4 0
 Orbea: lets make a Geo chart, but start with XL, then go S, M, L.....I am sure no one will notice.....
  • 2 1
 This was the best part, move XL to the front!
  • 4 0
 Considering Shimano's horrendous warranty support for the EP8 motor, i would choose Bosch everyday.
  • 1 0
 "but this iteration does seem to deal with the elements better than the versions that place the cable ports in the headset top cap"

A) Dealing with the elements has never really been a complaint. It's the pain of working on the bike.
B) Why is this any better (re: the elements) than through the top cap? They still decided to spec stainless bearings, so it can't be that great.
C) That's SO MUCH effort and work just to "remove holes from the frame", which was an already solved problem. So much solved that companies would put extra holes in chainstays just to run a cable/hose 6 inches so they could check off a bullet point of "full internal routing". So dumb.
  • 2 1
 My Wild was just delivered last week. I went with the H10 build as I figured I didn’t need the carbon version. I am very happy with the build quality of this bike. I know some people have said they have had paint issues but in my case I am very pleased. The frame is quite well made and the component spec is very solid.
The bike works well on our local trails and will also be perfect for weekend trips to self shuttle bike parks this summer.
  • 1 0
 what's the weight on it?
  • 1 0
 @PJSANAB: My XL H10 weighs about 56 lbs
  • 1 0
 I have the H10 as well and I absolutely love it. Great bike
  • 3 0
 Had a 2020 Wild FS, absolute garbage bike. Parts were ok and was reliable but if you thought geometry was good on all modern MTB's, the 2020 Wild was here to prove you wrong
  • 3 1
 Love to see Pinkbike do an ebike crank length test. I'm seeing 155 - 170 cranks out there on ebikes. Not sure if anyone has covered that topic yet.
  • 3 1
 155=good ebike or no for me. 6’ and no perceivable disadvantage. Jumping in to globs of rocks it’s always nice to have short cranks. Climbing, I feel no difference but that’s as scientific as I care to get.
  • 5 5
 @thechunderdownunder: Why are your cranks in a position where that matters when you're jumping? That just sounds like technique error.
  • 16 3
 Can't wait to see a review of an ebike with 0 mm cranks. Comment section will be lit.
  • 2 0
 @nickfranko: I’m sure that’s a part of it. Flat landings and overshooting are common with my ride and trails. As is bad technique I’m sure. But BB’s are getting silly low and short cranks don’t loose leverage according to multiple studies. Works great for me.
  • 3 0
 @nickfranko: Mr perfect over here?
  • 6 2
 $15K in Canadian Pesos? Huh
  • 5 3
 right!! are ppl that are buying these high ... they have to be ...
  • 9 0
 @balloffoil: high on income level
  • 4 1
 @balloffoil: I’m assuming you are aware that some people out there have the financial resources?
  • 2 1
 BC government will give rebates to the plebs.
  • 3 1
 @someguy101: It's income adjusted - $51K annual salary and above is only a $350 rebate, and I'd wager close to 100% of those purchasing this bike are above that wage.
  • 2 0
 @njcbps: as a self-proclaimed pleb I agree.
  • 2 0
 you can get the aluminum version for as low as $5600
  • 1 1
 @dododuzzi: That's still not a deal. Every car I've purchased for the last the last 35yrs has been cheaper than $5500 USD
  • 11 10
 Tell me about the slave labour associated with this battery please. Is anyone working on an ethically sourced batter, or is that rediculous? Is slave labour "zero emissions" ? Does science have an equation for this?
  • 10 1
 If that ruffles your feathers just wait until you find out about where the materials for components and bike frames come from
  • 8 0
 I can't wait until you find out where your phone battery comes from...
  • 4 1
 Shit batteries aren't ethical?! I'm going to ditch them all and go back to powering everthing with ethical oil... (Looks up the history of oil production and distribution)... Nevermind.
  • 1 0
 @HPdeskjet3630: This is a false dichotomy. There are more choices than just slave produced batteries or oil.
  • 1 0
 @b824: are you suggesting because of this we should not be trying to find better solutions?
  • 1 0
 @cretin82: yeah, many batteries are problematic. Should we not be trying to do better?
  • 1 0
 @colebmx: No. All I’m saying is everything mountain bike industry leads back to industrial mining and oil and gas.
Calling out one component as unethical while everything else also is, is silly.
  • 1 0
 @b824: It's not silly. Your argument seems to be an appeal to futility. In fact, some companies are doing better than others and it is important to support the lesser evils rather than the greater ones. If we the people speak with our wallets we can make a positie difference rather than a negative one.
  • 5 2
 This thing actually looks pretty sick on paper but everything I hear about post sale support from Orbea is terrible.
  • 3 7
flag BermJunky (May 29, 2023 at 11:37) (Below Threshold)
 Don’t believe everything you hear. The factory worked with me and my shop to get my build the way I wanted it. Orbea were very responsive and a pleasure to deal with.
  • 8 1
 @BermJunky: Lot of companies are good at pre-sales support, aka parting you with your hard-earned cash. @norcalbike is talking about POST sales support.
  • 3 9
flag BermJunky (May 29, 2023 at 12:15) (Below Threshold)
 @mi-bike: thanks, I can read. His comment was based on hearsay so just thought I’d give my two cents.
  • 6 0
 @BermJunky: it’s feedback I’ve heard directly from Orbea customers. Not exactly hearsay
  • 1 4
 @norcalbike: fair enough
  • 4 0
 @BermJunky: that said, I hope everything goes well for you and that hopefully the stories I’ve heard are the exception to the rule. This is probably the most compelling e-bike I’ve seen to date. Ticks a lot of boxes.
  • 3 1
 Yep I’ve owned every major brand and Orbea is the worst. They haven’t figured out US distribution for mountain bikes somehow.
  • 1 1
 @cogsci: Like in NZ Orbea in the USA is "probably" distributed by a 3rd party company.
The outfit in NZ bringing Orbea in when I owned a shop was basically the best performer of all of my bike suppliers when it came to post sales support, not just that but the best performer by a very long way.
The worst supplier of basically anything, (also by an absurd amount) was Shimano NZ.
I'm was stoked that the Wild is a Bosch unit, I know that unlike the EP8's, in NZ Bosch will get it turned around in a week if there's a problem unit..... Shimano? Well 6 months was the norm for a couple of years (sometimes longer).
  • 3 1
 @mooreoutdoors @cogsci @norcalbike

Orbea USA is part of Mondragon.

Haven't had any issues getting problems taken care of.

They DHL stuff from Spain faster than many companies send things UPS ground.
  • 5 5
 If you are in the US, do not buy an Orbea. Their warranty support is very poor compared to any other brand I’ve experienced, including DTCs. They don’t support their retailers well and sell the majority of their mountain bikes via online retailers which makes it harder to obtain support.
  • 1 2
 They support retailers well.

Ship things DHL super fast to make things right.

Yeah, I don't love the online retailer presence either, but who's not selling through DTC or third party these days.

Source: Orbea Retailer
  • 1 0
 @dontcoast: Do you want to support me getting a new main pivot spline on an Orbea Rise?
  • 1 0
 Curious that Kaz overlooks the other difference between the Orbea and the Transition: you can’t get the bigger 750 battery on a Repeater, but it’s an option for Wild buyers.
  • 1 0
 Very true. Now the Transition Repeater does have its advantage over the Orbea Wild, specifically for pedal parks if you have multiple batteries. Also, on the Repeater you can drop 1.7lbs of weight with a 504w battery. On a medium GX frame that's 47lbs (instead of 49 lbs) and closer to alloy Relay weight.
  • 1 0
 @PJSANAB: Good input. Note however that I want a bigger battery, not a smaller one.
  • 1 0
 It is a good deal - only 500 dollars per 1 kg of bicycle. Some non electric bicycles are a lot worse in this sense. Motorcycles are still unbeatable though in price-per-kg competition.
  • 9 7
 Raises bar? A sub 40 pound (this is 50lb) full power (75w torque), 500wh or more battery would be raising bar.
  • 12 8
 Not sure if you pay much attention to the ebike world but thats impossible with current technology. At best you can get a ~40lb bike with 50nm torque and 360wh battery... and that's only possible with a 5 figure build (talking Trek Fuel Ex-e, Spec Turbo Levo SL, or Orbea Rise). what you speak of would be nothing short of futuristic. we're several years away from that. this wild does indeed raise the bar
  • 3 2
 The current Rise M-LTD is 35.x lbs (60NM, 360Wh). I.e. that's a 85NM motor but the battery is too small to support it. However Orbea offers a 540Wh battery option. That would add 2.2 lbs. Of course they will probably never unlock the motor (it can be done aftermarket), but it's just to say that the technology does already exist.
  • 3 0
 @dylananderson: My '21 Heckler CC MX is 45lbs, has a 504wh battery and 85nm of torque. Not exactly 40lbs, but close enough for me!
  • 1 0
 @dylananderson: I could be wrong but the new Trance Elite may come close.
  • 2 0
 @MattInNZ: Sadly no. The Elite 2 is 46lbs. Giant claims the Elite 0 is 41 lbs but I don't buy it, especially with the heavier Live Valve suspension. 42-43 seems more reasonable. It does have the heaviest motor of the major players, but even with that in mind it appears to be a heavy frame.
  • 1 1
 @dylananderson: as I said, I was riffing off of the 'raising the bar' headline, and raising the bar means going above current technology.
  • 10 8
 Is it me or do these things sound more and more like motos the way they smash anything in their path?
  • 3 1
 I'd rather have full E moto for same price.
  • 3 0
 @jrocksdh: 450cc all day! Wild FS for the days I can't get out and moto
  • 2 0
 @dfranza: the E motos are out there.
And only getting better...and I'm not talking surons.
But ya..wna have all the toys.
  • 2 0
 @jrocksdh: they're getting really good - a Sur ron would do me fine. I don't understand why they're so much cheaper than pedal assist bikes. I guess it's mainly in the component spec, but feels like there is a bit of extra 'e-bike tax' being added in by companies.
  • 3 0
 Still has a derailleur though...old school.
  • 3 0
 Does it come with ignition lights?
  • 1 0
 Hi @mikekazimer can you share the model of mudguard you have on it?
I am looking for a long bolt-on guard for a 38 and it looks like you have it!
  • 1 0
 Google - Fox xl mudguard for 36/38 suspension forks. They are a genuine fox item.
  • 2 0
 @Dc5478: thanks! "XL" was the keyword I needed :-)
  • 2 1
 Think I would prefer a Crestline. Wheel size choice. Battery size choice. Removable. Travel choice. NO HEADSET ROUTING. Similar money.
  • 1 0
 "[The Transition Repeater] also still relies on a wired display,"

That is NOT a bad thing. It also does NOT rely on extra batteries!
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer , I had to check the Orbea website about the trunnion shock as the photos suggest it isn't trunnion... however website says it is. Are you sure? Thanks!
  • 1 0
 Yep, I'm sure - the trunnion mount is at the bottom mounting point, rather than at the rocker link.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Interesting - thanks!
  • 1 0
 Anybody else feel like this was one of the shortest bike reviews on this site?
  • 5 0
 If you mean, scrolled to the comments section first to see what is really important, then no, that's normal
  • 7 7
 Yes because real riders like Mike and others at pinkbike probably don't really care about eebs that much ..just doing there job
  • 4 5
 @Bulleit90: you probably don’t know what you’re talking about.
  • 2 4
 @BermJunky: no probably about it. dude is definitely clueless
  • 1 1
 @dylananderson: shows us on the diagram where analog bikes touched you.
  • 3 1
 E-bike with header tourism…wild.
  • 2 0
 The pedals are a rounding error on the weight of this bike.
  • 4 2
 Finally a ebike that climbs well
  • 2 4
 Climbs like a (fat) goat
  • 2 0
 Just buy a @crestline best ebike out there atm
  • 1 0
 I like E bikes and the Orbea looks wicked but they don't excite me like a pedal bike does.
  • 1 0
 Wonder how the Battery change will work for the E EDR team, given that they need rapid battery changes during the race.
  • 1 0
 They say the team mechanics can get it done in about 15 minutes or less. That should be plenty of time for the given mechanic assisted break during the race.
  • 2 0
 68, 69 in June, can't wait till I'm disabled so I can buy one.
  • 6 7
 "but the amount of power and the additional overrun make it a lot to handle on really technical sections of trails".....sooooo it's a motorbike?
  • 1 1
 Why is the motor listed under "Bottom Bracket".

Shouldn't we be listing it for what it is? Not what is a small part of it.
  • 3 4
 Time is moneyand an Emtb might not give me more time but I sure enjoy repeating the jump lines 3x faster than the average rider.
  • 1 0
 Orbea Wild Rises the Bar while Orbea Rise Wildes the Bar
  • 1 0
 I'll take the POLYGON, thanks
  • 2 2
 No one was paid very little in the writing of this review
  • 2 2
 Would you want to charge your bike in an outbuilding if it's -10C outside?
  • 2 0
 Patagonia makes a “recycled out of plastic bottles” to save the ocean, fleece down tube kozee with a boralyn infused outer wrap for sub zero temps. Ships with the bike if you live in a zip code that sees low temps brah!
  • 2 0
 @Tigergoosebumps: Insulation only works if there is a source of heat inside, brah.
  • 9 10
 "Race mode that propels the bike forward a little longer after a rider stops pedaling." ......soooo it's a motorbike?
  • 1 0
 very nice
  • 3 4
 And the Levo is still the benchmark as it has perfect cable management.
  • 4 5
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