Time's latest pedal, the Speciale 8, has a mid-sized aluminum platform intended for aggressive trail riders. Its ATAC engagement system mirrors the very popular Crankbrothers design and they share a number of advantages over the various Shimano SPD clones, like a softer, more predictable release and extremely reliable engagement in muddy conditions.
Similar, but not the same, Time's version of the double-loop spring mechanism has proven to hold up better to rock smashes than Crankbrothers, and its release action is adjustable. On the flip side, Time's ATAC system requires a more directional entry than its closest rival.
Speciale 8 Details: • Use: trail, enduro
• Aluminum platform, hollow alloy steel spindle, ATAC release mechanism
• Sealed ball bearing and DU-type bushing
• Micro-adjustable release-tension
• Reversible cleat: for 13 or 17 degree release angles
• 90 x 64 x 21mm platform
• Removable front pins
• Weight: 392g/pair (claimed)
• MSRP: $125 USD
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TIME Time's well constructed pedal body is 21mm thick. The shafts are alloy steel and well sealed. Two different cleats (easy and regular) provide release angles from 10 to 17 degrees. Optional pins for the forward section of the platforms are included, should you need a little extra security. Speciale 8 pedals weigh 392 grams (stated) for the pair without cleats and cost around $125 USD. Color options are anodized red, yellow or black.
Trail Report Time made the Speciale 8 as a smaller and less expensive alternative to its DH sized Speciale 12. The '8 is a little less than half the cost of the '12 and is proportioned about the same as Shimano's XT trail pedal - which is a good thing. As mentioned, Time's ATAC cleats are designed to be reversed, depending upon the rider's desire for a more prolonged 17-degree, or a quicker, 13-degree exit. If you move your feet around a lot on the pedals, I'd suggest you try the 17-degree standard position first. Reverse them if you favor a faster bail-out option. I used the 13 degree position. The dual-loop ATAC mechanism feels smooth and progressive, so I can anticipate the release and feel confident that I'm securely clipped in right up to that point.
Out of the box, my pedal's release tension was set up quite stiff. After a few days of riding, I was still fussing with entry and exits occasionally. I backed the two-millimeter hex screws out a half turn, which made a much greater difference than I anticipated, but addressed all of my grievances. I'm still riding the Speciale 8s and rarely give them a thought.
Pins are quite fashionable on "enduro certified" pedals and Time's '8 obliges with a pair of Allen grub screws on the front of each platform. I don't think that the front points are useful, as they seem to impede entry if they are set tall enough to make
Cornering clearance is good, and I've whacked the crank arm more often than the pedal in the rocks.
contact with the sole of the shoe. I gradually lowered them until my entries were perfect - and noticed that the pins no longer contacted the shoe. Their purpose, as stated in Time's literature, is for added security when you're forced to pedal unclipped. In those instances, the Speciale 8's were on par with Shimano XT trail pedals and not quite as secure feeling as Crankbrothers Mallet E's.
I've been riding the Speciale 8 pedals on a Rocky Mountain that is notorious for wonking pedals in the rocks. I anticipated that the Time pedals would bear the brunt of the punishment, but they have been thriving well. Instead, it's the Rocky's crankarms that are taking the beating. I'll chalk that up to good pedal design and cornering clearance.
If I were asked to rate the Time's pedal-entry against leaders like Shimano's XT Trail and Crankbrothers' Mallet E, I'd say the 8's are on par with Shimano, and five percent behind Crankbrothers. On the opposite side, the release feels ten-percent better
Speciale 8's are unaffected by sloppy mud, but still require a bit of a shove to clear hard-packed stuff.
than Shimano and five percent better than Crankbrothers. The edge over Crankbrothers is mostly due to Time's adjustable release. Once you've had the option, it's doubtful that you'll debate its value.
Will the 8's go the distance? I have had good luck with Time pedals in the past. These have been beaten up in the boulders and seen some off-season wet conditions, and they barely feel broken in. It will take a year, however, before I can compare their durability against the everlasting Shimano SPD or the mostly reliable Crankbrothers options. If something goes awry before then, I'll report it here.
Pinkbike's Take: | Time's Speciale 8 breaks a longstanding French tradition by offering a pro quality pedal for an attainable MSRP. The 8's performance is equal to or better than its two direct competitors, and it offers at least one essential feature that is missing from each. Aggressive trail riders or aspiring enduro types should consider the Speciale 8 the next time a pedal purchase comes up.—RC |
I’m also an owner of 4 pairs of TIME pedals. One of them, the DH version have seen the worst abuse as they’re installed on my “all mountain bike”. All pedals still hold perfectly, despite age or abuse (hey, I’ve still run those thermoplastic ones on my HT. The first pair a set of blue aluminum ones, are still running through the early 90’s!!!)
They work perfectly on dry, wet, mud and snow.
Also,
I have the impression that the Crankbrothers pedals copy the TIMES and not vice versa as the article claims… Please do check that!
UncaJohn
One more thing. Through the length of one of my favorite trails, at the southern slopes of Parnis mountain, I keep finding pieces of… Crankbrothers pedals! I am ridding this trail from 2001 and despite the hard conditions (rocks, roots and… rocks) m TIMES still work as new!
Well,
then i am too glad to see that i am right. My ATAC pedals are still in use. Despite my time-frame loss (!!!) i remember well why i tried them for the first time... Those Shimano's were completely unreliable when met terra firma's mud.
I remember one particular ride, near the rain season, when all my friends were either fighting to clip-in with their Shimano's or trying to clip-off, while stuck in mud pits!
Ha!
UncaJohn
Feelin' pretty old now...
Shimano SPD = 4°
TIME Atac = 13° / 17°
Crank Brothers = 15° / 20°
Your sentence is confusing...Shimano is easiest to clip in n out due to their smaller release angle.
hahahahaaaha
If the answer is “Yes” I’ll be buying the 8’s so thanks for the review. Dare I say it was... TIMEly?
I use Time pedals for about 10 years - Atac4 / Atac DH - and this is actually an american collegue in France who advised me Time pedals for their reliability and more... and he was totally right
Nothing to complain about, they are truely bombproof and always efficient, despite all the abuses.
... not talking about the Crankbrothers pedals which are not bad but kind of fragile - the bearings` quality has nothing to do with Time as far as I`ve seen..
Mine wears out about once a year (the holding prong/spring) or axles bend or snap, so something order of 400 hours of riding. I just went through 4 sets of used and broken time/mavic pedals, which I had stacked on lower shelf box to find those replacement parts.
Wouldn't change out from ATAC system regardless of wearing. So easy to clip on, so good mud clearance. Got them on trail, enduro and DH-bike. Speciale looks like a welcome update to series.
Shimano's release has that "snap" feeling when you click out. Yes, it doesn't require as much angle, but for me it feels "sudden".
On Time's the feeling is much different. You feel that 13 or 17 degree "ramp", so as you apply pressure, the ramp engages the spring and you feel pressure increase until you are out. It's less of an abrupt "snap" out of the pedal.
I prefer the Time's for exactly that reason. When you couple the release with the natural float of the pedal... then you can get yourself into some gnarly off balance positions (say around a rocky corner) and have the "careful, you are about to release" feedback from the pedal, whereas on an SPD you might snap out in the same situation without any "stop it dumbass" warning.
Time system in Mallet DH cage would be super tits. Maybe @oneupcomponents can make the perfect clipless pedal
Atleast on the side
I still run those!
I bought them because their platforms deflected the hard hits from the trail rocks, which otherwise would hit my shoes!
UncaJohn
Times MX platform was recessed enough you couldn't feel it. You are always Standing on just the clip. The CB platform would be amazing, with the time clip mechanism.
Also shoe makers, move cleat mounting 1cm further back. Most good riders I know put their cleats as far back as they can, to get as close to how they would place their feet on flat pedals
Im currently searching for a nice SPD shoe- with the 510s the pins should grab onto the soles- If I should ever need it.
Currently undecided between Hellcats or Shimano AM7/9 - the tunnel of the Shimanos seems nice and the cleat can be positioned far back.
#madeofcheese
With the right depth of the cleat channel, I don‘t miss anything on them. Not even the tension adjuster that I was used to from spd. With time pedals I don’t think it is necessary, because of the extended float. No accidental releases or similar.
I WILL say that after 20+ years of riding the traditional ATAC's, I decided to try out some of the platform style versions because I went to a softer soled shoe than allows for more "roll" that was not enjoyed. I think WAKI was referencing this is his post above. I ended up buying three different sets off Craigslist and PB Buysell. I now have a set of Speciale 12's ($125), a set of the Mavic version of the MX4's ($50) and a set of the old ATAC Z Controls ($50). Dollar to dollar, there is NO DIFFERENCE. A cheap set of MX4's will do the same job as the $280 set of Speciale's.
Yeah, the pins are "helpful" I guess, but I did not need them and ended up taking them out. I also never desired to adjust the spring tension on ATAC's. I am not saying the Speciale's don't have some nice features, but for the WAY HIGHER cost, they are not that amazing.
I am super glad I did not pay retail.
Still miss my flats sometimes, but no way in hell i ll keep paying 100 € for 510 that last one year! I do ride a lot
Has never happened with my four sets on TIME ATACS over several years...I’m convinced!
One question: I tried DH4s before and really liked them, until I smashed them on a rock and managed to kill one of the springs, at which point I learned that Time doesn’t really sell spare/rebuild parts. Did I not search enough, or are parts just not available?
The adjustment screw will be worth a new set, and this price point is much nicer than some recent. My carbon MX's have one side of one pedal that is a little looser than the other's. Wish I'd have returned them right off, but I assumed they're all "work in" and be consistant cause usually when u get "new" times they are super stuff/tight and you want to use old worn cleats for awhile till they break in and loosen up a bit...
still smooth as silk.... replaced the cleats only 2 times
best pedal out there
One of the best buys