Review: Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet

Oct 17, 2018
by Paul Aston  
Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review


Troy Lee Designs have been making helmets for over twenty years, starting with their very popular Edge in the '90s and moving on to downhill full face helmets from there. Their range has always been fairly narrow, but they've remained some of the most desirable on the market. The Stage is their first lightweight full face helmet designed for enduro racing. It has the silhouette of their hugely popular D3, but with lots of material removed to give it the sort of venting that you would expect to find in a trail lid.

Unlike some other well ventilated full face helmets on the market the Stage's chin piece isn't designed to be removable, but this is one of the reasons why it was possible to make it so light. At a 685g for the M/L, it is the lightest helmet on the market to conform to the full DH testing standards.

It is offered in three sizes, going from XS up to 2XL to fit head circumferences from 54cm to 62cm, and two thicknesses of pads are included. It is offered in 'Race' and 'Stealth' variants for a total of five different colorways, which should offer something for everyone, but the technical features of both options are identical. The Stealth Race in Silver / Navy is reviewed here. Retail price is $295 USA, $375 CAN, £275 or €329.99.



Stage Details
• Intended use: Enduro
• Fibre reinforced Polylite shell
• Combination of dual density EPS and EPP foam
• MIPS liner
• Total of 25 vents
• Various sizes of X-static moisture wicking, odor reducing, liners, neck rolls, and cheek pads
• CPSC 1203, CE EN1078, ASTM F1952, ASTM F2032, and AS/NZS 2063-2008 certified
• Size: XS/S (54-56cm), M/L (57-59cm), XL/2X (60-62cm)
• Weight: 685 grams / 24.16oz, size M/L (actual)
• MSRP: $295 USD
troyleedesigns.com


Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
The large opening comfortably fits most goggles on the market.

Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
Large vents keep the air moving, even on warmer days.


Details

Troy Lee have not only been working hard on the weight and ventilation of the Stage, but also the safety, which is appreciated in a time when everyone is charging harder on rowdier terrain than ever, and the effects of repeated concussions are becoming more widely known. The helmet utilizes a system of two different densities of EPS and also EPP foam in order to more effectively protect your brain from both small and large impacts. The lower density EPP should increase the impact time of smaller hits, reducing the force on your brain and thus injury. In harder crashes the higher density EPS is intended to absorb the energy that the first layer can't handle. The MIPS system has also been employed in order to help manage off-axis/rotational impacts. The various safety standards it meets or exceeds is quite extensive: CPSC 1203, CE EN1078, ASTM F1952, ASTM F2032, and AS/NZS 2063-2008. If the various codes mean nothing to you then the fact that it meets the same standards as a regular full face helmet should.

Ventilation and air flow were another priority in the design, and for this reason there are 11 air intake vents and 15 exhaust ports with deep channels to funnel fresh air over the head in between the two. The very front of the chin piece is particularly open to help with getting air into your lungs on a mid-stage sprint.

Other nice touches include the Fidlock magnetic buckle that can easily be closed with one hand; various thicknesses of moisture wicking, odor neutralizing liners, neck rolls, and cheek pads, and the anodized aluminum visor hardware, which adds a touch of class and provides 40mm of visor adjustment.


Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
The Fidlock magnetic buckle allows for easy one-handed operation while still being secure.
Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
40mm of visor adjustment is offered from the aluminum hardware that is designed to break away in a crash.
Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
A MIPS liner is fitted for additional protection and deep internal channels to move large volumes of air over your head.
Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review
The liner and all pads are removable for cleaning and various thicknesses are provided to adjust the fit. A helmet bag is also included.


In Action

When I put the Stage on it was a comfortable fit; the choice of padding thicknesses helping with this, but it did feel more like an open face trail helmet than the secure feel from a full-blown DH full face. I think this is down to the thinner padding used in order to keep the weight down and air flowing, like an open face, rather than the cushy, padded feel from a DH helmet. On the other hand, it was very airy and didn't feel much warmer than an open face helmet. The cheek pads are cut back and away from your jaw, which makes breathing easier and give it a less claustrophobic fit than a DH helmet.

The Fidlock closure is very handy, and can even be used to connect the strap with one hand while riding. The straps that the Fidlock are attached to did cause a bit of an issue – they aren't in a Y shape, as you find in an open face, but ran straight down like a normal full face. This would be fine, but the lack of padding on these straps resulted in them pulling against my ear lobes and becoming uncomfortable on long rides. Some padding on these straps would solve this problem and hopefully this is addressed at some point.

Another compromise made in the quest for ventilation is that despite all of Troy Lee's work on safety it still doesn't feel as confidence inspiring as the current crop of DH helmets. The very open design, which is essential to keep it cool, also meant that I felt more exposed. The noise from the wind rushing over my ears created the illusion of speed, like an open face. I suspect that is one reason why I feel so safe in a traditional full face.

Finally, and this is a small thing, but the lack of any foam or mesh in the chin piece resulted in being much more likely to inhale flies or flying debris on the trail.


How does it compare?

The Fox Proframe and Bell's Super DH are the two other helmets on the market that are similar to the Stage. The Fox and the Bell are both heavier in the same medium size, at 761g and 892g respectively. The extra weight of the Super DH is mostly from the removable chin bar and fixation points that give you a hybrid helmet that can be used as a full, or open face.

The Fox uses the same Fidlock closure and straight style strap with no padding as TLD's lid, but I did not experience the same pulling on my ears feeling with the ProFrame that I did with the Stage. The Bell also boasts a Fidlock buckle, and uses their 'Float DH' retention system also found on most of their open face helmets that offers a micro-adjustable fit, helping to give a more secure feeling when not riding fast, and a y-shaped strap that gives a better fit. The downside of the Super DH is caused by the 'Mips Spherical' system which is a separate foam shell inside the exterior shell that can rotate in a crash, instead of a thin plastic Mips layer. I found when riding over fast and bumpy ground the whole exterior of the helmet moves around on the Mips Spherical layer which is off-putting and can move goggles, distorting your vision which can make it hard to ride.

Ventilation might be slightly better on the ProFrame due to the increased size of the intakes at the front of the helmet, but even now I have a shaved head there is little to tell between the two. The Super DH has the least amount of ventilation compared to the other two, but that is not always a bad thing. Increased ventilation can lead to a more exposed feeling compared to a full-on DH helmet that's particularly noticeable on the Stage thanks to the vents placed right over the ears. This does keep your ears cool, but the Super DH and ProFrame shells cover your ears leading to a safer feeling.

For endur-bro goggle storage under the peak, the Bell is the best, the Stage just about holds a set with the peak at its highest setting, but the ProFrame can't fit any goggles under its peak. On a hot day, storing goggles here can make them fog up when you are perspiring or working hard. For that reason, I'm not a fan of keeping my goggles on the front of my lid.


Troy Lee Designs Stage Helmet Review


Thoughts

The new generation of lightweight full-face helmets designed with enduro racing in mind are great, but I do have concerns about them replacing regular full face helmets due to the numerous large vents that make them so cool. As I've explained, the Stage meets or exceeds all the DH helmet standards, but is an undeniable fact that more large vents increase the likelihood that a sharp object could get through.

Many helmet manufacturers argue that these standards I've talked so much about are lagging behind what is required. Research and high profile athletes facing problems due to repeated concussions have shown that more can be done to reduce brain injury, so the standards should be moving forward with technological advancement in order for us to confident that we are being protected as well as possible. Usually, these standards are set to cover helmets across a range of cycling disciplines by government organizations that move more slowly than the rapidly evolving world of mountain bikes.

It is my view that these new 'enduro helmets' should be considered to be more protective trail helmets, rather than a DH helmet with better ventilation. I personally will be sticking with a full on DH helmet when going to a bike park or shuttling, but will happily reach for the Stage when heading out the door on a trail ride, or need better cooling and lighter weight for enduro racing.


Pinkbike's Take
bigquotes The Stage is a great lightweight enduro helmet that gives riders the Troy Lee style that many want.Paul Aston









133 Comments

  • 103 8
 I'm sorry but I found this review to be useless. There was no mention of how well the helmet ventilates on hot days or long climbs and no comparison to the Proframe or Parachute etc. How well did the pads deal with sweat management? Can you fit goggles under the peak? Did you try it with different pads thicknesses? Was is stable on your had on rough sections? etc etc etc. All I read was a comparison to a DH lid, which this helmet was obviously not meant to be.
  • 12 2
 Fully agree with everything mentioned. Far too many words were focused on advocating proper helmet standards as opposed to doing a proper review.
  • 5 5
 Being honest I was happy with the comparison with the dh lid, I’m looking for something with that level of protection and lighter and this review was helpful
  • 1 0
 Yeah, does it prevent sweat from getting into your eyes? I’m sceptical looking at that forehead pad...
Plus, the vents below the visor does make it look like a roadie helmet from some angles.
  • 16 6
 WHAT DID YOU EXPECT??? It’s like your first time visiting PB. Reviews here are just click bait. Worded so not to overtly not overly offend their future/current/past advertisers. You don’t get ahead by burning bridges, and you certainly don’t get paid saying gearbis junk. The Mike & Mike team do great bike reviews but even Vets like RC write with that industry chip sitting on their shoulder.
  • 3 1
 @bubbrubb: that's only in the morning
  • 10 7
 It’s Paul Aston, why would you expect anything more?
  • 13 0
 @Knuffle in regards to different pads, not sure this addresses your concerns, but our bald resident bike geek, Stikman goes through how to tune the padding to your head www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_XmM8Hphws
  • 52 0
 All you need to know: "This helmet climbs like an XC helmet and descends like a DH helmet!"
  • 3 1
 exactly, this "review" was completely useless, we know its not as protective as a full DH lid, duh! The review should have focused on its use as a full face helmet you can pedal with.
  • 3 1
 @ckcost: but doesn't have a bottle cage mount. *sobs*
  • 92 4
 Dat goggle strap placement tho...
  • 9 0
 I can tell you were making sure it didn't cover vents. Classy.
  • 16 0
 Clearly designed to max view of enduro beard
  • 3 5
 and Visor up. geez
  • 7 2
 Squids ride with their visor down.
  • 3 1
 @nickyp132: looks like a cheap piece of crap
  • 51 7
 I feel like this review really missed the mark by not even mentioning the Fox Proframe for comparison.
  • 3 6
 And to the Bell super DH .. I had both Fox and old Bell and seeing this new Troy I decided to go for the new bell due to the lack of micro adjustment on the back of the head. For me this is a crucial aspect for stabilize the helmet, and is such a pity new Troy doesn't has it... Is stupid if then can't be approved with some standard... but we all know makes it much safer with any full helmet will keep more in place the shin in the moment you re going to crash and it won't move under hard compression leaving you uncomfortable like happened to Rude on EWS Ainsa 4th stage where he had to negotiate cliffs both sides with helmed unplaced...
  • 5 6
 Actuelly he did mention it, saying stage is confortable not like the proframe troll
  • 14 9
 Proframe is betters. More solid, chin piece is more rigid and it doesn't feel like you will loose half of your hair everytime you take it off or you won't get you finger cut if you put it into the vents. It feels as flimsy as Super 3R or Met Parachute 2. Nowhere close to Super DH or Switchblade 2. The fact that it received DH certification is the testament to the fact that DH certification is worth crap. Yes I had all of them on my head. This is literally the first helmet from TLD I put on my head and went WTF...TLD got so Euro-Duro. Big fan of TLD, not that big fan of Fox but if in doubt choose Proframe. Sorry.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: the only issue with the Proframe is that it doesn't drop down low enough for those of us with longer faces. My chin is below the bottom... Just like the old D2.
  • 27 0
 @yzedf: Why the long face my friend?
  • 11 0
 How about the whole paragraph titled, "How Does It Compare?"
  • 3 2
 @tommyraytrash: he wears “scream” mask under the helmet.
  • 3 0
 @tommyraytrash: one of the many tall guy problems when it comes to mtb
  • 2 1
 @MisterJones: it wasn't originally. The article was edited after the fact.
  • 2 1
 @kcj801: It was added in after the article was published.
  • 42 1
 Whew, just made it through the comments! Always a wild ride in here, but we appreciate all the comments. As to Paul's comments on this type of helmet vs a full on DH helmet; We have been working on this helmet for years, starting out with detachable types, but the weight penalty AND what the heck are we doing with that chinbar when removed?, we tried a slimmer version of D3, and numerous other prototypes.

We did not want to blur the lines between our open face trail lids (A1 and A2) and our World Cup winning/BMX Olympic winning D3 series of helmets (or future D series helmets), we wanted clear separation between them all, no confusion. So the final stage prototype starting becoming what it is today, a full face helmet for trail riding, with superior ventilation and low weight, but also meeting the most popular standards (ASTM F1952 being the one most customers requested) and that took a lot of testing in the lab, numerous prototypes, to find the sweet spot in testing....we made it for the days you are shuttling, or even a epic ride that will have a long climb with a rowdy DH on your trail bikes, or for the racers that were charging hard all day at EWS was the benchmark and we had Ropelato testing it early on tweaking and tuning along the way. We did not envision anyone riding their DH bike with Boxxers on it, with a Stage helmet. Purpose built for the trail.
  • 30 1
 Also, to Paul's comment about "The noise from the wind rushing over my ears created the illusion of speed, like an open face. I suspect that is one reason why I feel so safe in a traditional full face", this was by design. In the early testing days, we had a set criteria of features, one is being able to have the same acoustics of an open face, being able to hear your friends on a longer ride, conversing, aka-being able to hear everything. Once we got the helmet on more riders, dealers, customers, they really like this feature, to hear, and give a feeling like an open face.
  • 23 0
 Thanks for commenting - it's really cool to see the manufacturer's reasoning from a real person there vs. paraphrasing in reviews!
  • 1 0
 Great design! I've had it on and one of the coolest features besides how super light it felt while wearing it was that I was able to see my front wheel through the huge mouth opening. Yep for me that a big thing.
  • 8 0
 @trails801: Don't forget to look up! Wink
  • 8 0
 @hipposauce: Reflecting back on the first day all of us at the office had a bunch of rideable proto's and we went up to Skypark (our local bike park in arrowhead) and we rode all day with Troy and the crew, was awesome to be fully protected, but chatting up on the uphills and then sending it on the downhills, hearing all of us hollering. Good times-Peaty wanted us to put a beer holder on the STAGE, but, didnt fit.
  • 1 0
 Sweet helmet, can’t wait to get my hands on one. Will you guys be coming out with different paint designs?
  • 1 0
 When are the smalls going to shop!? I can’t wait to get my head in one of these!
  • 2 0
 @muddysocks: They are a 2-3 weeks out, along with the XL, then by the end of the year/New years, the 3 other color ways.
  • 1 1
 I ride mountbike since 1997,I start using TLD's clothes, trousers and helmets from 2003 .Because he is the most beautiful.At that time, D2 weighed 2 pounds and was the lightest DH helmet.I hope that the Stage can be made from the original TLD style.All the colors are not beautiful enough now.
  • 2 0
 I bought the Stage a month ago and love it. I rode with the Troy Lee D2 open face helmet for years (back when it existed) and have never felt comfortable making a full switch to full face, as I do a lot of tricks where I need to see the bars/front wheel. I am happy to admit that I am now completely happy in a full face and *straight up* astonished at the breathability of the Stage. It is like wearing an open face. Literally almost as breezy as my Smith Forefront (woah). I can wear it on hot rides, long rides, gnarly rides, even easy rides. I am excited about where this will push the helmet industry. Also, it is INSANELY light!! Lol like lighter than my Bell BMX brain bucket.
  • 1 0
 @cpeper21: I hope the paint on the helmet will be more beautiful
  • 1 0
 Good info. Thanks mate. @cpeper21:
  • 1 0
 @troyleedesigns: getting mine any day now, after a pretty solid crash at 20mph that buried my A2 in the trail. Figured if I was looking a bit further ahead when i went down, my face would have been hamburger. Looking forward to the extra protection of the Stage!
  • 27 0
 I’d rather throw £300 on this than a waterproof onesie
  • 2 0
 You're free, my man.
  • 13 0
 Real user here, I bought a stage helmet in Whistler, during crankworx, the last one fanatikco had. The fit for me was the decision maker, it fit perfectly, I only changed the neck pad from what the stock setup was. I've been using it probably 40% of the time of my rides, but that is growing. This genre of helmet I have been waiting for, because detachable helmets seem like a gimmick. 2 hr rides are no problem and make me more confident without giving me a sore neck eh. I spoke with some reps at the troy store in whistler and they told me its not for DHing, its for trail riding, they also said the "DH" certification is a bit wank, but they build to to surpass standards. I still have my good ole D3 for the few times im on my downhill bike, my specialized ambush for hotter trail rides or when im with a big group. Very happy with the stage.
  • 1 12
flag b1gboy (Oct 17, 2018 at 8:25) (Below Threshold)
 ????
  • 11 0
 Normally we have commenters who ignore all the manufacturer's safety work; and just say that it doesn't 'feel as strong' as their D3, or moto helmet; and for that reason it simply MUST be inferior. But here the reviewer has done it for us. What on earth shall we argue about now?
  • 13 5
 The funny thing is that when Met released the Parachute, all 'muricans laughed at it saying it was Euro and enduro bro. Now that TLD and Fox release their own, it's the new thing. I'm waiting for the tacky dragon-flames version of this TLD helmet
  • 12 4
 The Met Parachute is fugly. That's why!
  • 5 1
 I owed a MET Parachute, and now a Proframe. The Proframe is much better. The original concept award goes to Parachute though.
  • 11 3
 I hate how TLD pretends their 3 sizes fit everyone from an XS to a XXL. If there are three sizes those sizes are small, medium, and large.
  • 13 2
 That's like going into coffee shops.

"I'd like a small coffee."
"We have tall. Is that what you want?"
"Is that the small size?"
"Yes"
*Commence eye rolling
  • 3 3
 @jojotherider1977: you sure you dont want the grande? (Which means tall, but somehow it's different than a tall)

Its so euro, bro.
  • 19 1
 "No, venti is twenty. Large is large. In fact, tall is large and grande is Spanish for large. Venti is the only one that doesn't mean large. It's also the only one that's Italian. Congratulations, you're stupid in three languages."
  • 3 1
 @underhawk: yeah I think we're saying the same thing...
  • 3 2
 @underhawk: it's venti because it's 20 ounces. hahahaha
  • 10 2
 @LOLWTF @pedrosalas7 it's a quote from Role Models...spoiler alert, Paul Rudd goes through a hard time but comes out a better person. You never see it coming.
  • 3 0
 @underhawk: Sweet reference! I LOL'd at my desk.
  • 2 1
 @underhawk: yeah I know that's what his girlfriend responds, epic movie, I watched it so many times and never got old
  • 2 1
 @pedrosalas7: hey, did you know that dinosaurs are not extinct? because birds are dinosaurs..and they're everywhere.
  • 1 0
 @kelownakona: whatever, its just f*cking stupid that starbucks think its fancy
  • 3 0
 @jojotherider1977:
@ McDonalds:
"I'd like a small coke."
"We don't have small cokes. Medium, Large, or Extra-large?"
  • 8 1
 But the aerodynamic drag from his visor being that high. Would also hate to snag it on a low hanging branch or fallen tree.
  • 4 0
 I picked up this helmet a month ago and the first tryout was a pre ride for an enduro and then the actual race. Also it was effin hot where the race was, and the Stage was as cool as can be, even on the climbs back to the top. It stayed secure through gnar as well, stoked with the helmet so far.
  • 6 3
 Got one, love it, super comfy, much stronger feeling than a ProFrame - I will still use my D3 for days in the alps, or doing more stupid stuff, but this is great for local bike parks, or where there is a need to pedal up! I'm still in agreement that there is potential for a stick through a vent to injure you, but its still a world above a half shell!
  • 1 9
flag konastinky430 (Oct 17, 2018 at 8:28) (Below Threshold)
 Yawn zZzZzZ
  • 5 0
 @konastinky430: you're just upset that you can't read and just recognised the shape of the letters making up my username ;-)
  • 4 0
 I love my TLD stage! It flows air very well and doesn’t obstruct heavy breathing while being very light. The large opening in the chin bar is easy to spit through. ???????? From me
  • 3 0
 I have a friend that smacked his cheekbone on a ‘trail ride’ with an open-face helmet and has had major problems for years resulting from the concussion. He said he doesn’t want to wear a full-on DH helmet but a trail-specific helmet like this or a pro-frame could have made all the difference.
I want one.
  • 3 0
 There's a strong case for manufacturers publishing much more info about how helmets exceed standards, rather than just meet, and how each part of the standardised tests is met / exceeded. Then people can make an educated trade off - do I buy the helmet that's 120% of Standard and heavier, hotter, or the 101% helmet that is better vented etc?
  • 3 1
 I love the concept. I keep my D3 for when I don't pedal, and have a Fox Flux for 90% of my riding. A few times I've caught myself thinking I wouldn't mind a full face, with something like this I'd wear it almost all the time.
  • 3 1
 The cheek pads are super close to the lower-front part of the ear. Beware.

Also, the top center has a ridge in it, so if you plan on sticking a light up there, it's not gonna sit very well.

Bonus: the mouth opening is big enough to drink/squirt water from a bottle from. Props if you can manage to spit out it.
  • 1 0
 Yeah man I have the same issue wit this helmet. Cheek pads keep pushing on my ears and cause discomfort :/
  • 2 0
 I've noticed a random trend lately for people to wear their peak/visor all the way back, whats the deal with this, I personally think it looks stupid but I understand if you gotta fit a gopro under there or goggles or something...
  • 5 0
 It's to keep the visor out of your field of vision. When you are trying to look as far down the trail as you can and have a low body position (aka whenever you're going real fast) the path of your vision is along the top edge of the helmet.
The proframe doesn't work for me, for this reason. The visor is always in my field of vision and it drives me crazy.
  • 11 1
 It's not a new trend - it's always been that way. Peaks should never be in the Joey position (slammed down).
  • 2 0
 Smacked my mouth recently just in local woods.

As I was flying over the bar's looking for a landing site I spied my landing strip only to meet a tree trunk hidden in the under growth,

The sound of your gob hitting that wood VERY hard ! ..Ouch.

Could not eat solids for 2 weeks, looked like Mick Jagger for a week.
Month later still numbness.


Wearing my A2 at the time.

Now have the A2/Stage/D3 to choose from.
Happy enough with the Stage, that big opening at the front though.
  • 1 0
 The front opening looks usefully bigger than my Parachute, which is a bit snug on Oakley goggles. And the buckle looks easier then the PITA d-ring on the Parachute. But the venting looks pretty much identical to my A1, and that's probably warmer than the Parachute. So I imagine the Stage wouldn't be much fun for a long summer transition... Though I always find it pays to pop the cheek pads out for the climbs when it's hot. Just don't lose them!
  • 7 1
 Randy approved
  • 5 0
 Randy would crush sick lines in one of these. Push the Send button, #Randy
  • 4 0
 @endlessblockades: Randy approved oughta be the new certification.
  • 4 3
 @paulaston How can you tell it's less safe than a traditional full-face? "Secure feeling"? Are writing about personal insecurities really appropriate for an objective product review? A 1964 Buick is probably more secure feeling than a 2017 Subaru, but which one would you rather be strapped into in an accident?

Agreed that we truly need more protective trail helmets, but as far as we know, this may actually be safer than many ASTM1962 helmets (or not). In the end, there's no way to know without testing it at an independent lab - maybe something to consider for future safety product reviews.
  • 4 1
 @redbarn It is less safe than traditional, vent-less full-face helmets because there are large openings where foreign objects could enter, and secondly because it has less padding which means less impact absorption.

I don't think that saying I feel safer in a full-face downhill helmet than a lightweight, well-ventilated trail/enduro helmet is a personal insecurity. If you said you felt less safe with no helmet than a moto helmet riding to the shops I would believe you.

The point I was trying to get across is that I see many riders in bike parks or on serious terrain wearing this kind of helmet as they think it is equally as safe as a DH helmet because it passed the same test, which is simply not true, Troy Lee themselves agree here and advise their D3 in these cases. The Stage or similar is a great option for someone looking for increased protection over an open face trail helmet or someone who accepts the risk Vs reward in an enduro race, for example.
  • 1 0
 @troyleedesigns I can see the conversation around the office...’No you get on PB and answer the questions, I did it last time!’ Helmet looks good and it fits my head. Been waiting for you guys to get one out there. I will not ride MX or down hill or race cars or urban bmx...
  • 3 1
 I wonder what is the probability of landing on a sharp object, that can get through a large vent. IMO it must be low. But who knows.
  • 2 2
 Big fan, used to have a full face, and it was HOT. I'm now on the fence between, "I'm bad, and I'll probably smash my face" and, "My iXS Richie Schley is like wearing a cloud, and you've never smashed your face before..................." How often do people typically smash their faces?
  • 2 0
 It's fairly rare, and in the case of a crash your reflex will always protect your face so even if you do, chances are it won't be that bad. Half shell brigade unite!
  • 5 0
 Smashed my face into a downed log about 4 weeks ago. 16 stitches and soft food diet for a week and a half. So in my experience it happens once every 3 years.
  • 6 0
 @mitch421: eat your porridge mitchy!
  • 2 0
 @LOLWTF: I think I'm going to need a full face.
  • 1 0
 First time in a while, I've seen a lid that actually looks good on (Paul's?) the model's head!
Being challenged in the hair dept. myself, I'm quite jealous of the locks out the back there.
  • 1 0
 Fox helmets don't fit my head but I like the idea of a cooler full face so I might have to try out the tld ,bell doesn't fit me either and not really happy with my current giro open face so won't go there again
  • 3 0
 My favourite/most comfortable full face was my carbon Specialized Deviant (with the original liner).
  • 1 1
 In what world does this thing share the same “silhouette” as a D3? The part of the helmet that sits in front of your forehead is 3ft behind the end of the chin bar, like most other removable chin bar full face helmets (which are also ugly as sin)
  • 2 0
 Recently picked up a D3 instead of Stage as my go to bike park helmet. Stage does meet DH standard, but like advertised it's designed for Enduro use.
  • 2 0
 The styling of pretty much all Troy Lee product is always a deal breaker for me but I can't deny that they make excellent quality product.
  • 5 4
 Trump will get rid of all safety standards and organizations that do anything somilar. Corporations have it hard enough. If it fails, it's your fault, or it was a pre-existing condition
  • 2 0
 Hey, a full face light enough that I can finally replace my carbon fiber Troy Lee Daytona from 1996!
  • 9 1
 If you're still rocking the same helmet since 1996 you're either riding safe enough to just ride in a half shell or you really shouldn't still be wearing that helmet
  • 2 0
 @dh1stan: Just for trail riding when I ride my 95-98 vintage bikes once or twice a year =). I have every other Troy full face too (including an SE3 moto), going back to my 1994ish Edge. But none are as light as the D1 (Daytona).
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 @dh1stan: Super-aggro trail riding I should say — bikes like an Uzzi DH, Uzzi SL, Kona Hot, Litespeeds, and some older rides like a Crosstrac Sonoma that just begs you to wear a full face with its Firestone airbag rear shock, haha.
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 No water bottle mount?? No thank you
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 11 years later, someone finally makes a decent replacement to Specialized's Deviant...
  • 4 1
 Paul, I'm just happy you got a fucking haircut. Congrats!
  • 2 1
 @paulaston how does the Stage compare to a Giro Switchblade? I think this one is a viable contender in this helmet segment as well...
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 I like Giro but the Switchblade is hideous looking.
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 I use the ProFrame for all the 'guy' trail rides (use an open face when riding with the wife cause slow speeds) and bust out the MX helmet for the bike park.

I think these helmets are fantastic for many riders.

I'd like to see a built in BT helmet speaker option as I install this myself anyways. Need some music!
  • 1 0
 stikman did a good demo in the video mentioned. and i have a tld lid. but imo, I can deal with more weight and less vents for more protection.
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 Sorry to frighten everyone with my baldness tho haha. As for your thoughts on more weight and less vents, sounds like you are more of a Downhill race helmet rider? Like a D3, so I think we got you covered for Downhill bike, more robust helmet type of riding--and the Stage for trail riding, on the smaller bike, longer day in the saddle. Like I said, our intent was create an A-series (A1, A2) type, with facial protection.
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 Maybe I missed it in the article but what is the difference between the Race and Stealth version?
  • 2 0
 Not sure why, but I fancy a Martini right now.
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 Olive one too!
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 But does it have mounts for a water bottle?
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 where are the crash test dummies for helmet reviews!
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 Becoming Canadian, 495 AUS schmacker. Good lookin lid though.
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 proframe and superDH are not that far away in Oz. Exchange rate is savage for all.
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 Bell super DH is better. Plus their MIPS rotational is amazing.
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 It’s not better if it doesn’t fit your head, I have a TLD stage helmet because it fit the best out of the Super DH, Proframe and Leatt version. Bonus that it’s very light and well ventilated and doesn’t look like the helmet is three sizes too big for your head like the proframe.
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 @mrfish: I thought the leatt want DH certified
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 Nope the jaw piece of the Leatt does not meet the DH certification. I believe the latest Bell however is fully DH certified.
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 Bell super DH is better if you want a breakaway chin bar to go with your breakaway visor.
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 @SonofBovril: Dh certification is a piece of crap. Like almost any certification system out there. If this helmet gets the DH cert, you may wipe your arse with that paper. I recommend anyone to get D3 and this stage in their hands and now tell me how the hell are these helmets equally safe?

@Riwajc How is Mips of Bell "amazing" in relation to this one? It's a plastic net with magic powers regardless of the make.
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 @WAKIdesigns, the MIPS is different in the the Super DH - they call it MIPS Spherical. There's still a plastic slip plane, but there's also a secondary layer of foam that's suspended by elastomers: www.pinkbike.com/video/476605.
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 @mikekazimer: ok. good to know. didn't notice that when I had it in my hands. a really solid helmet. Better ventilated than Giro. Still... Proframe!
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 @mikekazimer @WAKIdesigns

Actually there is no plastic slip plane in Mips Spherical. The surface between the EPS and EPP is polished, allowing the two materials to slide on each other, eliminating the need for a plastic LFL like other mips helmets use.
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 @midschool, not on the Super DH I have - there’s a clear plastic layer that’s been glued to the secondary foam liner.
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 Thumbs up from me. Not ?
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 Full-face helmets are for sissies!
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