As their name suggests, lock-on grips clamp onto your handlebar and not only allow for easy installation and removal, but the design also ensures that they won't ever move while you're riding. Well, most lock-on grips, anyway. Revolution's $109.95 USD Suspension Grips employ a unique two-collar lock-on design that allows the grip barrel to float over your handlebar slightly, something that the California company claims allows ''the grip to move independently of handlebar chatter, significantly reducing shock and vibration in your hands and upper body.''
We're all an open-minded bunch around here that looks at new products in a liberal and receptive way, aren't we? Carry on, then.
Revolution Suspension Grip Details
• Grips isolated on rubber inserts
• Tuneable firmness via spacer shims
• Includes alloy handlebar plugs
• Includes 2.5 and 3mm hex keys
• Includes extra inserts, washers, screws
• Diameter: 31mm (tested), 34mm
• Length: 130mm
• Weight: 44 grams (per grip, w/ hardware)
• Made entirely in the United States
• MSRP: $109.95 USD
Grip choice can be a very personal thing - many of us decided which ones we love years ago and that's that, but they're all based on pretty much the same principle: one or two lock-on collars and a plastic barrel with some rubber of some kind laid over it. Simple stuff that does the job, but what if our grips could do two jobs?
Revolution believes that since grips are arguably the most important contact point of the three that we have with our bike, it's worth looking at how to make them better. And by better, they mean how to make them absorb some of the chatter that gets passed up through to a rider's hands.
''A lot of grips have shock absorbing characteristics. The difference is that they are direct-mounted to the handlebar,'' Revolution explains, ''and every single shock and vibration is translated directly into your hands.'' Isn't that the job of our suspension forks? Yes, but I also know that just because we have some $1,000 fork on the front of our bike doesn't mean it's an entirely smooth ride. Revolution believes that their suspension grips, which sees the plastic grip barrels float on rubber inserts, can further help matters. ''There are many different grip shapes and sizes designed in an effort to achieve that perfect, ergonomic fit, with hopes of minimizing arm pump and hand fatigue,'' they say about what most of us would consider the norm. ''Unfortunately, every grip has the same problem: they are directly mounted to your handlebar and most with locking rings serving the sole purpose of eliminating ANY movement.''
I know what you're thinking: grips that move sounds kinda... sketchy. The Suspension Grips can't spin on the handlebar, however, and their omnidirectional movement only adds up to about 3 or 4mm of so-called travel.
The Revolution Suspension Grips float on four rubber inserts that are hidden inside of the lock-on collars.At $109.95 USD, the Suspension Grips aren't inexpensive, although it is worth mentioning that absolutely every bit of them, both metal and rubber, is manufactured in the United States. ''You are looking at a completely tunable shock absorber for your hands, not a simple handgrip,'' says Revolution of the price that would probably be enough to purchase two or three years worth of grips for the average rider. They also offer a thirty-day money-back guarantee (so long as they're "like-new" and in the original packaging), so you can also send them back if you're not a fan.
The small box that they come in is home to two grip barrels, four nicely machined aluminum clamps, sixteen rubber inserts, eight tuning washers (more on that below), two expanding bar plugs, all the tiny screws that are required, some extra rubber inserts and washers, and the 2.5 and 3mm hex keys that you need to put everything together. Separate items like the grip barrels and rubber inserts, which are both wear items, are available on the company's website for $40 USD.
A single Revolution Suspension Grip weighs 44 grams, while a single ODI Ruffian lock-on weighs 53 grams.How Do They Work?A normal lock-on grip slides on and the inside face of the barrel is in complete contact with the handlebar, but with Revolution's design the inside diameter of the plastic barrel is about one-eighth of an inch larger than the handlebar. It doesn't sound like much, but this extra real estate provides the space needed to allow the grip to "float" over the handlebar.
This float allows the grip to rotate back and forth by 3 or 4mm, and also move vertically by a few millimeters.
They look just like normal grips once they're assembled, and no one would know any different unless they were to grab one and twist.There are four small tongs that extend out from each side of the grip barrel, much like the two that we usually see on each end of a standard lock-on grip. These interface with the nicely machined aluminum lock-on clamps, but it's what goes in between the two that gives the Revolution grips their claimed powers: four rubber inserts are pushed into each clamp, with the tongs engaging with the inserts rather than the clamps themselves.
The rubber inserts allow the grip barrels to have near omnidirectional movement; they can move up or down, and even twist slightly. What they don't do, however, is move side-to-side, with the clamps preventing any unwanted lateral shifting. Once installed, the only parts of the Revolution system making contact with your handlebar are the aluminum clamps.
But that's not all; you can actually tune how active the grips are by installing or removing thin black shims that are included in the kit. These shims go on the end of the grip barrel, in between the barrel and the clamps (and the rubber inserts that are inside the clamps), and they determine how much engagement there is between the four tongs on the ends of each grip and the rubber inserts.
Less engagement (one thick washer at each end) means they can move more freely, whereas more engagement (no washers at each end) provides maximum engagement and a firmer feel.
The kit includes thin and thick washers, but no more than a single washer is to be employed at each end, making for five tuning settings in total: zero washers for the firmest feel; a single thin washer on one side for a medium/firm feel; thin washers on each side for a medium feel; a thick washer on one side and a thin on the other for a medium/soft feel; and thick washers on both sides for the softest feel.
InstallationOpening the box reveals a set of pre-assembled Revolution grips that have a thin washer installed on each side to provide a medium amount of forgiveness, but because I wanted to start off by using the softest, most forgiving setting before switching to the firmest, I took everything apart and started from scratch. Besides, it's fun to take things apart.
Thin washers allow riders to choose between firmer or softer settings.The job isn't difficult, but there are a handful of small pieces involved. The rubber inserts are all of the same durometer (it's the shims that change the action, remember), so it's just a matter of squishing four of them into each collar, then sliding a shim over the grip's tongs (if you want to use any) before pushing the collars home.
The tongs do fit snug into the rubber inserts, so some wiggling is required to fully seat the collars, and you'll need to hold each collar onto the grip while sliding them onto the handlebar - they want to come off until you clamp down the set screws. The instructions say to snug down each screw to 10 in/lbs, although I doubt anyone is going to be using a torque wrench with a 2.5mm hex key. It took about ten minutes to put everything together and install the grips.
Performance
When I showed other riders the Suspension Grips, the consensus was that the last thing they wanted moving around was the connection between their hands and the bike. ''That's going to feel really vague and weird,'' I was told again and again. And that's kinda what I expected to feel, to be honest.
Go grab onto your grips right now, squeezing them as if you're holding on for dear life on the last run of the day down A-Line during the Sunday of Crankworx - there are holes that a small child would disappear into, and you feel like you've gone a few rounds with Conor McGregor after a long day in the bike park. But no matter how tightly you squeeze, those grips can still rotate back and forth in your hands slightly because the skin on your palms twists.
That direct connection between your mitts and your grips might be a lot less direct than you thought.
It's for this reason that the Revolution Grips don't feel odd in the slightest. You don't feel them moving - it's a subtle thing - and you most certainly don't feel like you've lost any sort of direct connection between you and your bike. Everything feels very normal.
I installed the grips onto a hardtail with a 120mm-travel fork, a bike that I'm often aboard while riding well over my head to keep up with people on their 150mm-travel all-mountain sleds, which probably makes it the ideal test platform for these things. With less suspension to take the edge off, any advantage that the Revolution grips present should be obvious. I also started with the grips in their softest setting (thick washers on both sides of each grip) to exaggerate their movement right out of the gate and then re-installed a standard ODI Ruffian lock-on grip back on only one side of the handlebar to compare before running both Revolution grips in the firmer settings.
Inserts and suspension aside, the rubber and pattern used makes the Revolution grips comfortable to hold onto.And what did all that experimenting tell me? That yes, there is actually something to these grips. It doesn't feel like you have an extra inch of suspension travel, or even half an inch, but the Revolution Suspension Grips do take some of the edge out of impacts, especially high-speed chatter like square-edged braking bumps or roots across a fast section singletrack. I'd describe the feeling as being similar to how going from a 2.1'' tire on a narrow rim to a high-volume 2.35'' tire on a wide rim can make the trail seem smoother, and your suspension fork feel like it's performing better than ever - but it's just your tire and rim combo. Well, the same thing goes for these grips, but unlike a wider tire and rim, there's basically no weight penalty involved.
They do make a difference, but I still have a hard time thinking of these grips as a suspension product, even if you can use the supplied washers to effectively tune their spring rate - they're more like isolators in my mind. The firmer settings are also less beneficial, and I don't see myself ever using them in anything but the softest setup.
Rubber inserts and isolating aside, the 31mm diameter and forgiving pattern is much friendlier on the paws than some other more aggressive looking grips out there, which could make them ideal for those riders who somehow get by without wearing gloves. The rubber has some stickiness to it as well, which doesn't hurt matters.
The outer edge of the Revolution grip is abrupt and quite noticeable under your palm compared to a Ruffian.One thing that I'm not a fan of is the ramped outer edges that border the aluminum lock-on collars. ODI lock-on grips, as well as most other options out there, have a similar sort of design, but theirs is far less prominent feeling under the outer edges of my hands. I ended up moving my brake levers and shifter inboard by about 10mm to force myself to keep my hands from resting on the outer edges of the Revolution grips, but those riders who tend to not use the full width of their handlebar likely won't need to do this.
Pinkbike’s Take: | The $109.95 USD pricetag will be hard for many to swallow, but the added forgiveness of the Revolution Suspension Grips, however slight, will be appreciated by those who enjoy riding a short-travel bike quickly. I could also see downhillers who spend all day in the bike park benefiting from the design. - Mike Levy |
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This may be a decent product and I do not care what people pay for toys. I certainly do pay a lot. It is just such, um, unnatural reviews and ratings annoy me a lot.
I'm all about giving these a shot. I get REALLY bad arm pump, possibly from a physiological issue, and not just bad technique. Props, @revrace, I look forward to giving these a go!
And no @powderface, Revolution Suspension has not paid me off.
Lol at @Forbis and @RampageGinger accounts.
Although I'm a borderline Sensus fanboy, I can't deny the arm pump and hand, wrist, and elbow pain I get. I really like the idea behind these grips.
Sorry but I have a Answer grips + Avalanche Suspension damper and if its properly set i don't have any bad feedback, spikes or numbness or any discomfort in my hands i wish it to everyone !
Also, I imagine it is people like me, who are on here every day who have been downvoting you. Why? Because you are a clown, basically.
We get it, you obviously are upset at them for their product (for some bafflingly unclear reason) and feel the need to act like a petulant little brat about it.
Everyone should try these you will benefit greatly from them!
Also, I do wonder a bit about having less surface area for contact on the bar, especially a carbon bar. With regular grips the load is dispersed for the length of the grip. Do you have any thoughts on that?
Congrats on a new idea!
I may give these a go next year.
Yes carbon is super strong; all my stuff is. But I know how easy it is to crack it if a lot of weight is focused on a small area, hence my concern.
I think they're a great idea but they also may be a good way to flush a C note.
@jeremiahwas - I haven't seen the grips you are describing, but for all the grips I tried it seems impossible. To the point where some of the grips I have owned like Meridas, Ruffians and Peaty's started moving inside the lock on collars after some time. In which other way can a plastic tube, that you can freely slide onto a bar, clamp on that bar evenly on their whole length, when clamps are only on the outside? Maybe Spec has something different going on, I don't know. Do they have a metal core with a cut through the whole length that could theoretically increase the pressure in the middle? Even if so there is very little chance that clamping force is spread out evenly. Furthermore I doubt that two small bolts (that I find on all the grips I have ever seen) can provide pinching force that could threaten a carbon bar, unless it's a kind that's been bought of Aliexpress for 30$ and has S-Works written on it. Or it says Tune on it ( they make an 800mm flat bar at 110g - hell-fkng-O)You'll round and destroy 3mm allen key sockets of the bolts before you reach any potentially damaging clamping force.
@batfastard - the only grips that have ever given me nerve pain were worn out Giants, then Bontragers and Ergons GE1 ( yeees I mounted them the right way...) Yes I agree the rubber of classic lock on grips will never move to the same level. And yes they may not be for you or perhaps even not for me either. Just ranting sht...
I've managed to break off the outer collar off a couple different sets of grips during a crash or by clipping a tree. In those cases, it wasn't really a big deal as the inner collar was sufficient to keep everything well in place for the rest of the ride....in fact one remained that way for months as I didn't want to replace a set of perfectly good grips just yet.
What I am wondering is if your design could withstand that sort of event, or would the loss of the outer locking collar cause the system to fail? Could the grip slide off or be susceptible to excessive movement if the outer locking collar was missing? It doesn't appear from the photos that there is any sort of flange on the tabs for the collar to grab, but rather both collars are required to limit side to side movement, which makes me worry that this is the case.
Otherwise, this looks like an interesting design and I wish you the best. Maybe once my current grips wear out, I'll consider trying yours.
Thanks!
On the case of this product, the grip needs both locks to have the float.
There are grips out there with less than 31mm diameter wich are suited better for size 8 and below.
Boyesen makes almost the exact same thing for offroad motorcycles called Shokout. The are awesome and really popular with us old , busted riders with bad thumb tendons and carpal tunnel. Which is like everybody over 45.
I do want to try these though! @MarcMila do the grips provide any vertical compliance or strictly rotational?
sooo want.... can i order direct from you???
what size do i need for my renthal carbon bars... sorry.. and thanks. my bad.. they have the normal end size of all bars ( shows how much I know - like zero
Any chance to get them without all that ugly URL text on the end caps?
I like these grips.
Padloc: outlandish, expensive way to stop your grips rotating. These things: outlandish, expensive way to make your grips rotate.
I'm going to wrap some sports tape around the ends of my bars and hide in a cave until this is over.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImGs2Xysxs
To all the haters:
I'm assuming most of you are young and probably in school or working menial jobs for little to no pay. It's understandable that $110 sounds like a lot of money to you. It's also understandable that you may not need or want some of the new innovations that are coming out. Please remember the world doesn't only revolve around you. The market will decide whether this is a viable product or not. When you turn 46 like me you will become very thankful for all the innovations that let you continue to ride trails with all the 20somethings and still keep up. I would advise you to stop hating and start working toward a successful business or career so that when a product comes out for $110, the price is not as big of a deal. There's no reason to be angry at the cost of things just because you choose to work a job that doesn't pay much. Rolling out a new product is a very expensive process and these guys are taking a big risk. Ease up a little. You don't have to buy them if you don't want. Show some respect for people with balls big enough to roll out a new product and reply to the comments on pinkbike.
Be happy. Go ride some jumps.
@AlpineNate No, not a dentist. Those guys are really smart though- In the US they work like 4 days a week and make a couple hundred grand a year. Pretty good deal
I'd actually give these a try, and I don't have any issues with my hands going numb. Considering I've paid 1/3 the price for traditional lock-ons, it's not unreasonable.
Btw, the price is a bit cost prohibitive.
Sounds good, who do you ship with to go up to Canada? So long as it's not UPS at any point on it's journey I may give it a try...
Hopefully some economies of scale will get those down to $50 soon...
@revrace - good on you man. Keep that shit up. The grips sound like a rad idea. I'd love a set on my dirt bike! (non throttle side obviously)
What i´m trying to say is, grips with good dampening are a nice upgrade in my mind. The pricetag for these is high, but some of us are buying forks for thousands without even thinking about it (most of them for the placebo effect also, even if they would never state that).
Bottom line: if they work as intended, why not give your hands a little support? Good luck with the business!
www.bikerumor.com/2015/09/03/eb15-funn-may-put-some-float-in-you-flats-with-hover-pedal-concept
It sounds awful to me and personally hate it when my grips have any slop in them at all.
Tight no moving is what I like, so I really didn't know some like to have grips that move around on them!
But if it really helps with hand fatigue and arm pump then go for it!
rideOn!
I had a friend who was friends with the owner and had said some good things about them. So if you consider this a biased post... whatever
Like everyone else, I was kinda skeptical about them as well due to the price. But seeing they were made in the US and had a money back guarantee, I said screw it as I wanted a solution to arm pump on my DH Bike
I originally tried them on my hardtail with a100mm fork. I noticed a little improvement but not a big one
When I slapped them on my M16 and headed to Snow Summit for a day of Lift Access riding they really came to life.
Normally after 1 or 2 runs my hands are starting to go numb or my forums pump up so bad I need a break. Running these really changed that, I was able to do 2 or 3 runs without any arm problems, I just took breaks cause I needed something to drink.
My day was extended and I was able to get quite a few more runs in that I normally had. Plus at the end I wasn't feeling like I as going to slip a grip and end up on my face
All in all I love these grips and they are worth the money to me.
I look at it like a dropper post.. years ago it wasn't needed and nobody wanted to spend the money... now everyone has one and the price is OK
Try a set out, there rad
Travis Brock ( A beginner to intermediate fat guy with bikes)
"They also offer a thirty-day money-back guarantee (so long as they're "like-new" and in the original packaging),"
The reality is most of us will not be able to determine whether we like a new product on our first ride, especially if it's new technology which we may need to get acclimated to. For most of us (unless the product is instantaneously determined to be crap), this will take multiple rides. Point being, 30 days for me is around 15+ rides....... Even If I establish this product is "not for me", I can't see them being in "like new" condition after close to 30 days of riding. Just Saying!
Yes they are pricey, Yes its a new technology that who knows if you want it. But its new and brings a new take on something, especially all day park rats, experience. (As marketed reducing arm pump)
I haven't seen this much hate towards boost? We just switched from 135x10 to 142x12 to boost? Really? Or the whole new metric size shocks? Does everyone not understand the big bike companies are exploiting all the new standards just to get us to buy stuff again? Where's the angst towards them?
Anyways, this is a local company and has great local support by a lot of riders. I know a majority of the riders who have commented here. Especially the new members, and most of them rip. I believe San Diego has a pretty good MTB community and its supporting its own.
Will I buy these? Probably not right now, maybe if the price goes down. But I don't need grips right now.
$109 USD is $146 AUD, I paid less for my carbon bars! The price is probably justified with the R&D etc. but jeeezzz it's a lot of money.....
I am not a professional racer and the biggest improvements to my time round my track is not my kashima coated forks or renthal chain ring its how bothered i can be to push on harder....sorry but being in my late 30's i can pull a sizeable % improvement in my speed just by feeling a bit more in the mood for it.
I think the worse thing about these new products is that sometimes it feels like we've been mislead a few too many times and its all too easy to be negative to new things.
here are a few of my own personal gripes
-chain guides...get rid as we now have narrow wide and it never drops a chain.....few years later and now its a good idea to fit a chain guide as narrow wide is very good but not 100% perfect :-(
-get rid of 26" wheels (dont get me wrong i can see the obvious merits of 29's) bigger wheels are here and there just as good as your old wheels for even if they are not quite as stiff "some flex actually helps your riding" and there plenty strong enough and roll better.....fast forward a few years later and boost spacing arrives and one of the key reasons for its introduction was to make your new bigger wheels feel as stiff and the old crappy 26 wheels...so flex is bad now then?
-forks. stiffer is better. unless your the rockshox rs-1 then flex is fine as it offers trail compliance.....er ok but didnt we just have boost spacing?....just buy a sid fork surely and save a bunch of cash.
-bigger diameter handlebars there better than your old ones. dont forget the new stems. oh but now your hands are sore :-(
-push fit bottom brakets. noooo
-metric shocks.........arghhhh
blah blah blah
ive forgotten my point.
i guess its just that its very hard to bring new products out without facing some harsh criticism but unfortunately new must have changes, standards and items seem to appear daily all claiming improvements over what you have so its only natural people are gonna be skeptical. Especially as most of this "innovative" stuff is usually quite expensive.
I can't count how many times per ride I start to lose traction on my front, but get it quickly stood up off the edge so I don't lose the front and crash, all because I can FEEL what's happening through the bars>grips.
I'd like to smooth out all the chatter and braking bumps, but not at the cost of losing feel for traction, and what's going on.
They're located in Santee apparently, so I might take a drive down there to talk to them and see how they feel on a set of bars.
If you still get enough feedback through the grips, then I'll give 'em a shot.
I'm old, and therefore I need all the 'help' I can get.
Thanks..
I sent you an email from your contact form on your site.
I just wanna come down there and feel a pair in person, and talk to you about 'em briefly.
I have a season pass at Summit, but have to work tomorrow.
I have DH runs right across the street from my house however, so that's where I'll want 'em to work best.
Good luck with your product.
Will try them when they become less expensive.
Things you can buy for less than $110 include an 11-speed XT derailleur, a SRAM Guide brake, a set of Crank Brothers Mallet DH pedals...
I'm not moaning about expensive things either, I'm not price sensitive in the slightest. I spend crazy amounts of money on my bikes. But someone could take this idea and sell it for half the price. I'd be interested but you've got the price point wrong.
That price is quite a bitter pill, it took me a long time to ante up for lock ons since great slide on grips are so cheap.
Interesting idea though.
As long as they stick to the returns policy i cant see a problem with people trying them.
I used to get horrible arm pump until I changed my fox 32's for some Pike's.
If these can do that for less why not try???
To be honest I could not justify $110 on grips, even if they made me a sandwich after every ride!
$110 for less fatigue and the possibility of a sandwich? I'm IN!!!
I think the idea holds water in theory and i dont think you will loose much "feel" of the bike, as you are never out of mechanical contact with the bars.
The cost is high but that is to be expected with medium complexity machining and numerous small parts. ar eth eplastic bits molded?
I dont have the Sterling equivalent of $110 to throw around at the moment but ill surely keep an eye on these!
If this integrated with some type of brake clamp, say pair with a SRAM match maker, I can see the potential. Otherwise, I'm a skeptic but maybe thats just me.
If the average rider just learned to loosen their hands on their grips and keep more of your weight on your feet, it might do more good than grips over $100.
Nevertheless thumbs up for thinking outside the box
PS: might see shimano coming up with a suspension brake lever next year lol
I don't have a problem paying more to get more... I'll pay twice the cost of an average product for an exceptional version of that product... but paying 800% more is just unreasonable. You guys need to get your production costs in check before these are a realistic product.
NOT a new idea!
www.boyesen.com/shokout-offroad
Just heading out to alps for 3 weeks, I'd have invested the hell out of these!
But I guess the market will prove if there is a need for this shit.
Better get carbon bars and ESI Chunky.
User Forbis? Just was asked?
You paid for a "review". Is not it enough?
Have a nice day.
This is about the absolute worst pile of steaming shit I've ever run across on pinkbike. It's a freaking disgrace. But it's kind of entertaining in a way.
They're f*cking grips. And you want $110 for them.
And this is all bullshit of the highest order. You might think you're doing your product and company a favor by gaming pinkbike in this way...all I can say is good luck with that.
Im never taking these grips off, in fact I have already rebuilt them once after about 600 miles of hard riding and being over weight probably didn't help matters.
@pinkbike: WTF? Come on now. Advertorials are fine and all, but this is kinda jumping the shark isn't it?
Look at the profile of the users who wrote favorable review and you will notice their account is either new , was inactive for few years and now they resurfaced and they are all from San Diego area.
It just doesn't seem right...
Its like any other brand. This is just a new questionable need product.