Rocky Mountain Flatline Pro: Preview of a Review

Jan 5, 2009
by Mike Levy  
What is long, squishy, and white and red? No, not that candy cane that you just found under the couch cushion...although I'm sure that is still ok to eat. What I'm talking about is Rocky Mountain's new top flight Flatline Pro DH bike. Don't get too excited as the review is still a ways off, but due to sheer boredom (the large amount of snow will do that to me) I've put together a little "preview to a review" article to get your blood flowing during these cold winter nights. Inside we have got Wade Simmons on video from 'Vegas to give us the low down on the Flatline, as well as far too many pictures!

Read on.....Nothing like a new big bike added to the stable of test rigs to get the blood flowing mid winter. Then again maybe it's just frustrating. Not wanting to be anywhere near the winter weather, or Christmas for that matter, makes getting Rocky Mountain's new Flatline ready to rip a frustrating task. But with the family gathering season behind me and some New Years debauchery to lighten the mood maybe things are looking up? After all, the weather can only get better and here I am adjusting lever reach on Rocky's top end go-fast and go-big bike. For now all I can do is check my tire pressure hourly while I wait for the snow to melt, as well as give you guys a quick preview of a bike that will see quite a bit of saddle time, the Flatline Pro.

Rocky Mountain Flatline Pro



Frame Detail...

And what a bike it is. Maybe it should really be BIKE in capitals as this is one hell of a machine. I won't call the Flatline "Rocky's first DH race bike" as the RM series were as downhill as downhill bikes were at the time, but it sure fits the mold of today's go-fast bikes: long, low, and slack. The frame, which is the same throughout all four models, is sporting some unorthodox shapes and ideas. Someone has gone to town with the 'ol tube bender and hydro-forming machine with the end result being the Flatline's heavily manipulated frame shapes.

The Flatline's downtube and/or fender?

The most obvious result of all this pressure formed trickery is the bike's down tube, which seems to have a built in fender of sorts. Most riders will cringe at the word "fender", but don't be to alarmed as it actually looks pretty neat. Other benefits to the down tube's odd shape could include: extra boost off of jumps due to its winged shape, radar deflecting angles which are always handy when flying into enemy territories, as well as lessening the chance of the bike being pilfered...What thief wants a bike that has obviously been involved in a head on collision with something unmovable.





Riders that have been cursed with short or stubby legs will be thankful for the bike's generous amount of crotch clearance and low-ish seat tube length. Down below all the heavy bits have been located together, with the shock surrounded by a cage of sorts. The Flatline uses Rocky's LC2R linkage to activate the shock, similar to the Slayer SXC 90 I tested awhile back. This version of the LC2R system has been tweaked to ring the most out of a longer stroke shock and has some extra beef added when compared to the Slayer's arrangement. I was pretty happy with how the shorter travel version performed so I have high expectations for the Flatline's rear end.


All linkage trickery aside, the Flatline is a single pivot bike that uses the LC2R system to control shock rate. The main pivot itself is 'captured', in that it sits within twin spars inside the frame. There are a few ways to look at it, one of them being that it should increase stiffness. Time will tell. One thing that is for certain is that it creates a bike that looks quite moto. The rear end is a 12/150 mm affair with pinch bolts on both sides and a stock steel thru-axle. It would be nice to see it come with a lighter aluminum piece here, but the steel version will be more goober proof.





The main pivot is held within the frame and the hardware is recessed



The Numbers...

The majority of companies will run with two frame sizes, calling them either a medium or large (short or long). Rocky Mountain offers the Flatline in four frame sizes, including an XS for all you gnomes, so there is no excuse to be on a miss sized Flatline. Despite the options it can still be tricky to measure and fit yourself to the right sized bike as opinions vary widely as to what is correct and what isn't. Below are some numbers for a medium Flatline, if you want to see the other sizes click HERE.

Head angle64.6
Seat Angle69.2
EFF Top Tube23"
Chainstay18"
Bottom Bracket14"
Wheelbase47"
Actual Frame Size (effective seat tube length)17"
Standover29"

Armed with a measuring tape I found some other numbers that will be of use to you if you are eyeing up a Flatline. With the fork at full travel, I was able to lower the bars to a height of 40.5" (ground to center) with the stock parts. Using only spacers and moving the fork within the crowns it should be easy to raise them at least 2.5". The relatively low bar height is helped along by the 4.25" head tube and integrated headset. The standover height I measured at the center of the toptube is slightly higher than Rocky's given number at 30.25", with a BB height of 14.25". As for the proposed "Reach and Stack" measurements (a sort of modified front to center and height number) I found a reach of 17.25" and a stack of 22.25". Want to know what Reach and Stack are?

The Flatline is no light weight, not even a light heavy weight actually. The Pro model hit the scale at 46 lbs 3 oz, portly when compared to some other bike's off the shelf weight. Stripped of all its parts the frame weighs 13 lbs 10 oz., meaning it will take some smart component picks to build a custom complete approaching the low 40's. I guess the real question will be how much the heft hurts the big bike's performance, if at all. Hoisting the bike with my hands tells me that the weight feels evenly placed, but that there is obviously a load of it. Should be interesting!



Watch the video to see Wade Simmons talk about the Flatline




...And The Parts!

There are four complete Flatlines available from Rocky, as well as a frame only option. The Pro model you see here fittingly sits at the top of the series and is loaded up with top notch bits. The Flatline Unlimited is one position down in the lineup but is interesting in it's own right, having a big single crown fork and Truvativ's HammerSchmidt paired with a wide range 11-32 cassette. Just what kind of animal would pedal that beast up and over things I don't know?

Marzocchi 888 ATA World Cup


The Pro model uses Marzocchi to handle suspension duties, with a bit of a twist anyways. The fork is a big white 888 ATA World Cup that visually matches the Flatline perfectly. Air sprung 888's are not as popular as some of the competition's air forks so I am pumped to give it a proper go and report back on my findings. One good reason to run this fork model is its ATA feature. A single dial that sits atop the right leg can be used to dial down the forks travel (200-160 mm), thereby being a quick and dirty way to make some handling adjustments. On top of that you get the usual rebound and compression to fiddle with, as well as a volume adjustment. Lots of options to keep the knob turners happy.



Marzocchi's integrated stem and the ATA knob to adjust travel

The bigger curve ball is out back. The ROCO used in the back isn't the usual World Cup job, instead being a TST-R model. Marzocchi's Terrain Selection Technology lets you adjust the dampers compression quickly with the flick of a switch, from full open to nearly full closed, usually something found on more pedal friendly bikes.

Marzocchi ROCO TST-R

Frame and SizeRocky Mountain Flatline, RMB FORM 7005 Alu
•medium Frame
Rear ShockMarzocchi ROCO TST-R
ForkMarzocchi 888 ATA World Cup
•160-200 mm travel
HeadsetFSA Orbit Z1.5-1 1/8
CrankarmsShimano Saint
ChainringShimano Saint, 36t
Bottom BracketShimano Saint
PedalsRMB Team Flat, black
ChainShimano HG53
CassetteShimano SLX-9 11-28T
Rear DerailleurShimano Saint
Shifter PodShimano Saint
HandlebarEaston Havoc DH 31.8, 20 mm rise, 711 mm width
StemMarzocchi Integrated 31.8 mm
•24/53 mm reach
GripsRMB Lock On
BrakesShimano Saint, 8" rotors
Front WheelSaint 20 mm hub
•Mavic EX729 rim
Rear WheelSaint 12/150 mm hub
•Mavic EX729 rim
TiresFront,WTB Prowler MX 2.5 Comp FT
•Rear,WTB Dissent 2.5 Team RR A.V.
SaddleWTB Pure V Race
SeatpostEaston Havoc 30.9 mm



Besides some tinkering on random bikes this will be my first go with the new Saint group over an extended period of time. In person the new Saint group looks like it belongs on Batman's DH bike, in other words it looks pretty neat. The Rocky's package includes brakes, hubs, crankset, ring and BB, shifter, as well as the rear derailleur. Finishing up the kit includes some parts from Easton (post and bar), and rubber supplied by WTB.

'09 Saint crank







So all that's left is to get on the damn bike and report back with my findings, right? Hold on a minute as that may not be as easy as it sounds. The Flatline is going to be quite the interesting test, as a few pieces of the puzzle came as a bit of a surprise. First up: how about that weight. A 46 lb bike was acceptable four or five years ago, but today? There are a number of off the shelf completes coming in at well under the 40 lb mark (albeit some with flimsy rubber) so where does that leave the big Flatline? And how about that suspension, the TST equipped ROCO matched up to Marzocchi's air sprung and adjustable travel 888. For now my new white and red girlfriend is hung from the ceiling waiting for the white fluffy stuff to finally disappear, but I assure you that at the first sight of some brown dirt she will be put through the ringer. I'm also looking forward to bringing the Flatline along on our annual pilgrimage to Utah, more precisely the area in and around the numerous Rampage sites. Seems like a proper bike for the task at hand!

It's going to be awhile until you get to read the full test of the Flatline, but you can learn more about it by checking out our Interbike coverage from this year's Outdoor Demo, or by going to Rocky Mountain's website.

-Mike 'Kakah' Levy


109 Comments

  • + 4
 who ever says that straight tubing is less strong and needs more weight then it being hydro formed needs to go back to school. what happens when u take a piece of shit metal and shake it?? its flexes and bends.. what happens when you die roll it or dimple die a hole? it makes it more rigid... and its the same damn weight. thats why they do that and same with the v10...
  • + 3
 last year when our Rocky rep came to town I got to ride a Pro and along with me owning a Slayer SS and my Boss with a Flatline 3. I will say that the Flatlines are a fun bike to ride but for me the FATline as i call them are just a little too porky, Althought if I lived out west I would most definatly own a Fatline.
  • + 3
 but i heard you were a dink. jokes! also, why DON'T you live out West?
  • + 1
 lol Cause if I moved out west I wouldn't be close to you and your Awesomemness...why dont YOU live out west eh Nik!!
  • + 4
 because he has a job and three kids
  • + 1
 lol i kno dan i was kiddin
  • + 2
 i was kidding too. he should move out west, and take me with him.
  • + 1
 I agree with both of you, especially about the awesomeness and the moving out West.
  • + 3
 Very nice ... good the see that its being built STRONG rather than for weight weenies ... those who complain about the weight still have a few months to hit the gym to put some mass on those 120lb frames :-)
  • + 6
 i like it.
  • + 22
 yea except its 46 lbs..lol
  • + 1
 Me too!
  • + 4
 lighter than my dh bike still. Wink
  • + 31
 there is not a single flat line on that frame...what a ironic name:-)
  • + 2
 man that thing is 5 lbs more than old dh rig, sure looks good though Smile
  • + 5
 well, i wish they had continued the RMX series Smile
  • + 3
 well i just know im not getting rid of mine
  • + 5
 hell no man our rmx's are going to be collectors bikes soon
  • + 2
 I was just wondering what bike the PinkBike team is going to be on this year because they have given RMB more attention in the last 3 months than they gave them in the last 5 years. Are you finaly going Canadian?
  • - 4
flag retrospecs (Jan 12, 2009 at 5:12) (Below Threshold)
 I'M WONDERING WHAT THE PINKBIKE TEAM IS DOING EITHER!! HERE WAS POST WITH QUITE A FEW ANSWERS ABOUT THE WEIGHT AND SETUP OF THIS FLATLINE AND HOW YOU CAN LIGHTEN UP THIS HEAVY BIKE. WHY DID THE PINKBIKE TEAM DELETE THIS POST??!!
I THOUGHT PINKBIKE WAS INDEPENDENT; BUT IT SEEMS NOT TO BE!! ARE YOU GOING TO DELETE EVERY POST WITH NEGATIVE OR CRITICAL RESPONSE ABOUT THE BIKE!! IT'S REALLY DISSAPOINTING TO SEE THAT YOU GUYS DID THAT!!
  • + 2
 REALLY NO WAY. Try using the caps lock key.
  • + 0
 i used the caps lock key already.
  • + 2
 I was just wondering what bike the PinkBike team is going to be on this year because they have given RMB more attention in the last 3 months than they gave them in the last 5 years. Are you finaly going Canadian?
  • + 3
 wow my 2007 rocky RMX is 43 pounds with a similar build (heavy 66's) saint cranks etc.. not sure 46 is acceptable by my standards
  • + 1
 taiwan man-for sure.a friend of mine just visited the factory the flatlines' are built;just the same site the spezi demos are made!!!!
painted & assembled in canada that's all!!!!get a used rmx-weighs less & was welded,painted,checked........in canada.
i met wade a few months ago & somehow he still loves the rmx-he just freaked as he saw my crossfire & a friend's cannuck!
does progress here mean slacker HA & a new design????
do not misunderstand,i love the rmb bikes,but a lighter dh bike is easier
to handle,if you don't just plow the trail.and you don't have to be a weight weenie to feel the difference & like it.
  • + 2
 i like this: 'One good reason to run this fork model is its ATA feature' .......hah that feature f*cked my whole season ....shit on the marz get a rock shox
  • + 0
 it's a good bike.. you dont notice the weight when riding the bike... a nd it really really works great with an Air rear shock... i have deemax's (tubless) and a dhx5 air rear.. with 888 rc3wc forks... (after getting them fixed by marzo (so far so good).. it's roughly around 45 pounds... and you really dont notice it... fast fast fast bike!
give it a chance! very fun to bomb with, very nimble for the size and corners as good as any bike out there!!!
  • + 0
 I´ve had my flatline for 3 weeks now, bought the frame in the states (ebay) & put an 888 rc3 and a couple of tubeless dt´s & I must say the bike rips! I´m going down at speeds I had never dreamed of on my Ironhorse sunday (same fork & comps) which was too big for my size though. The wheight? good for supermodels, down here in real world i piss on 6 pounds of gravity increasing strength that even helps you throw the beast into the tightest pussys, I mean corners at the speed of light. I am asking myself though if it´s possible (without damaging the structure) to put the rocco (240mm) into the second hole thought for the shorter shock, does anyone know?
  • + 3
 The hydraform curves are insane .... but I am not sure the point of them to that degree.
  • + 4
 Awesome looking bike. Good craftmanship and details
  • + 0
 Shame you aren't reviewing the cheaper option: as that would be the bike that most people can afford. Ahh well, I'm sure you will be stoked on the premium rig, especially when you get to ride it for free! take care now, bye-bye then.
  • - 1
 huh.
I don't know what I think about it.
I mean, it looks more like a possible freeride bike.
I know the travel is set for a downhill, but at first glance, I thought "why does that have a dual crown?"
maybe I'm just stupid.
haha.
  • + 2
 mine is the lower end model and weighs in at 39.2-.6 lbs depending on the scale with pedals
  • + 3
 You know that you're supposed to weigh it with wheels and a fork, right?
  • + 0
 Zing!
  • - 1
 i've got the tst-r on my glory, not sure how i feel about it all around but i'm also fat compared to you. i have to have the compression dampening cranked all the way on without locking out due to the fact that marzo doesn't make a heavier spring in the correct stroke length.... that and i've been too lazy to try and see if a fox spring will work... but, i've never bottomed it out, and i outweigh you by like 40lbs probably, so that shock should be rad for you!
  • + 0
 Rocky Mountain has one of the worst records for warranty returns, they quality of their bikes has really gone down. I would never buy a Rocky Mountain bike, their products just plain suck.
  • + 1
 dude there warrenty is good they just sent me a new frame right away no questions
  • + 1
 The point is, the bike shouldn't break, they shouldn't have to send you a new frame just like that. Its more than a little bit annoying to have strip your bike mid season to swap frames and then re-adjust everything. Anyways, I would never buy one of their bikes.
  • + 0
 ya ... you know that my broken rmx is pritty rare
  • - 1
 ii have ridden heavy bikes for the past few years i got the the pro comin in a month or so and i'll be racing it 46 pounds bombin down will make people move in practice hopefully but i am definitly gonna get a ti coil and alot of lil adjustments to bring the weight down for sure should be fun tho this snow is really startin to get to me and im sure it is gettin you whos has snow!!!
  • + 1
 Super fun, but not sure it feels like a race bike, it is suuuuper long tho, and I rode a medium.
  • + 1
 The angles look pretty good. When I was looking at the chart its like "BB =18 inches" I was like WHAT?! but I read on and it said 14.125" so I guess it's just a mistake. Long is better for dh anyway
  • + 0
 not small switchbacks and berms and technical stuff...
  • + 0
 It doesnt liek tight stuff, but put it in a straigh line (incuding over anyhting) and you should be fine going however fast you want. I have no doubt there are course for it but it didnt fit where I rode it here in socal. I will say this, I dare anyone to brake it. Tough as nails!
  • + 1
 how tall are you? cuz iam looking at the 09 flatline 1 with the optional triple 888. its medium. and iam about 6 ft maby 5,11 and a half
  • + 1
 Im 6' 1" or so and I rode the medium, it felt good but I like smaller bikes. My yeti is a medium too. I dont think it would be a prolbem for you but test ride one first, or wait for the awesome new ones to come out!
  • + 1
 i'm 6 and ride a medium, actually rode one of them ^^ yesterday, but not DH or anything just some turns and stuff, oh and i went uphill on it, super easy! Smile
  • + 1
 so whats the new ones gonna be like. what (new ones) are u talking about? Iam thinking of buying a 09 flatline 1 with 888 on it instead of single crowns. what ur opionon? Should i get some more money and get the 3 or somthink?
  • + 1
 Look p sabrina joinier's new bike, much lighter, thee ones are awesome but 45lbs for the pro build is a bit much. I dont know what type of riding you are doing. freeride/dh this are more than enough, if you are racing I say look into sabrina's bike and see when they are coming out.
  • + 1
 cant find it. could u give me a link?
  • + 2
 the hell with that thing the rmx rocks i i miss the old rmx bikes
  • + 1
 I'll stick to the Rocky Mountain Slayer as we don't have as many DH sections in my area. Still sick though ;D
  • + 1
 so does this mean rock mountain will be getting some pro racers on board? or are they not going into the WC scene?
  • + 2
 team maxxis with sabrina jonnier will ride this bike in WC, only team i know who will use rocky bikes.
  • + 0
 I will get mine flatline pro in March, so it will at least be seen on the swedish cup-tracks and a few more competitions/events.

cheers
  • + 0
 actually the drop outs are super nice.....(did you loosen the dropout before trying to pull the axle) it should just slide right out
  • + 0
 i love my new flatline ^.^ it rips shit at ski resorts, and less tech trails.....but on skinnys it dont like going in a straightlines
  • - 1
 I had the chance to get one but checked into warranty info. which was terrible i prefer the slower nice lines of the RMX and decided to go Glory lifetime ...now thats sweet
  • + 1
 sweet ....simply beautiful . want one ...now !!!!
  • + 1
 i got a flatline 3 it rocks and mine weighs like only 39 pounds
  • + 2
 WTF!!! sick bike!
  • + 0
 Just bought the pro from the bike shop, now just have to play the waiting game. I paid $5100 in Calgary Alberta Canada.
  • + 2
 god bike Wink i like Wink
  • + 1
 they are great bikes, a little heavy but they get the job done
  • + 1
 Awesome bike. Be great to huck. But it weighs too much
  • + 0
 Good enough for Scott Beaumont = good enough for me!

Wade Simmons, wow there is a blast from the past!
  • + 1
 i'm gettin one of these, can't wait!!! Big Grin
  • + 0
 The frame has the worst drop out setup though. Trying to remove the axel easily is next to impossible.
  • + 1
 I like my new frame... THIS FRAME!
  • + 1
 oooosh mate thas pretty mint (Y) how much is it ?
  • + 1
 i like it apart from the weight
  • + 0
 well looks like we're back to bent tubing then, surely any kid taking engeniring could tell you the problems with that...
  • + 2
 yup, to make it still strong enough, it will be heavier than straight tubing, it does also eliminate the need for gussets and extra welds, but still not with any weight reductionFrown
  • + 0
 yeah it seems a bit pointless to me unless there is a massive gain in strength , the only thing gained is weight by the looks of it , 46lbs oO , and some pretty shapes to look at! Looks the part tho
  • + 2
 there wont even be any production advantages because surely its harder to produce these tube shapes as apposed to regular straight and round tubing.
  • + 0
 and it looks like an old gt freestyle bmx LOL.A straight line will always be lighter and stronger and in most cases cheaper to produce.just my opinion but,i think a straight top tube woul look sooooo much nicer
  • + 2
 what do you mean 'back to bent tubing then'?? There are very few new models out that still use straight tubes. No major brand hasn't included bent tubing in most of their models. Oh right, except for the new V10 - perfectly straight tubes all around Smile

Maybe you're referring to the squaring of the tubes, which I'll agree with - lots of extra weight to make a square tube as strong as a rounder.
  • + 0
 actually, no it doesn't add extra weight to make square tubing as strong, the old norco vps models (pre-2004) all have frames made of square tubing, and they are strong as hell and all sub-45 pounds. plus square tubing is a hell of alot stonger naturally, its more rigid when it comes to up and down movement. i saw a special on specialized bikes where they were testing the old big hit frames, and it took something like 4 g's of downward pressure to even start warping the frame. round tubing on the other hand has more side to side rigidity. so theres your theory shot too hell ^^^
  • + 3
 monocoque - ie v10, intense etc is a different principle all together... its fairly irelivent weither or not the tubing is square, tapered, circle or fart shaped, where ever there is either a bend (in extruded tubing) or a kink (in formed tubing) you will have a pressure point in the stresses, rather than spreading the pressure a lot more evenly, as in a straight tube. obviously any point taking more pressure will take more stress, fair enough on the Flatline, they've over built the downtube to hell, so what? its over built as a conpensation for having the odd tubing in the first place. the only structual triangle on that bike is around the BB and shock, thats great, but it doesn't give the front half any help and if anything its gonna put more strain on the inside of the formed kink on the downtube
  • + 0
 indeed!
  • + 0
 to 'redline-45' - strength doesn't = rigidity, the two can be quite opposite!
  • + 0
 'redline', although dhnirvana didn't actually say it, the pre-04 norcos were monocoque too (the V-10 comparison was just illustrating that lots of brands have used different methods than just straight tubing). For comparable X-section areas, square tubing always uses more material than round tubing, thus heavier. Round tubing is more rigid by size (area). For your comment on strength, side-to-side movement is the same stress as up-and-down movement...the tubes aren't aware of which direction gravity is coming from.
  • + 0
 whoops - meant to say *round is more rigid by area/weight ratio*
  • + 0
 side to side rigidity is not the same as up and down rigidity. round tubing has more up and down flex, making it more prone to stress cracks from repeated downward pressure. thats why alot of DH/freeride bikes that use round tubing for the top tube, also use oval tubing or rounded square tubing for the bottom tube. the purpose of the oval tubing, which has the strength qualities of both square and round tubing, is to eliminate this up/down sway, helping to eliminate the up and down movement of the top tube. thanks for trying^^^ and i know that the pre-04 norcos have monocoque frames, i ride a 2003 norco launch.
  • + 0
 no doubt about the advantages of using formed or shaped axtruded tubing, say flared tubing going to an oval or squared off towards the head tube if engineered rightand balanced with the top tube can be stronger. id personally put more faith in butted tubing or gussets. still, this doesn't help the bendy *cough* "artwork" on the flatline, squared off or not it will still have high stress points all over the place. have a look through for pics of old school kona stabs and you'll surely find more than one or 2 pics of them foled from head on impacts. great for vanderham and whoever elce is riding them pro, they'll ride it for a year tops then flog it on and im sure even tho its a poorly thoughout design the sheer weight off it must mean its made out of plenty of metal... i just dont get how other companys can now build a bike to take a beating and kit it with similar gear at, what? upto 5-8lbs lighter...
  • + 1
 mines coming on friday. Oh yeah!
  • + 2
 i love that bike =)
  • + 0
 i was looking either at one of these or an iron horse sunday, any ideas??
  • + 0
 Looks like more freeride over it
  • + 1
 looking good!
  • + 0
 if you think I'm kidding go weigh one yourself, 39.2-.6 punds stock
  • - 1
 its not bad looking but i still prefer a standard harcore looking frame without all that stupid bendy tubes.
  • + 0
 It's a fun Whistler bike for sure
  • + 0
 TEAM MAXXIS 2009!!! Sabrina rules...
  • + 0
 Yeah, can't forget Cameron Cole or Luke Strobel.
  • + 0
 I have an 08' Pro and love it. I easily got it down to 43 pounds
  • + 0
 It's looks like a giant reign and big hit otherwise a amazing bike
  • + 1
 Thats a sick bike
  • + 0
 jeez i wish i could afford that bike
  • + 0
 I could care less about the weight, I love my Flatline to death.
  • + 0
 nice ride, good components, howmuch?

i find it exceedingly ugly though.
  • + 0
 Made in Taiwan.
  • + 2
 Are you f*cked up? o.O Rocky Mountain = HAND MADE IN CANADA
  • + 0
 How much is it?
  • + 0
 sorry *mine is
  • - 3
 My buddy rides one... pretty nice bike, but its a pig. Go tubless and a Ti spring in the rear and it might make it a reasonable weight.
  • - 3
 Wade who?

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