Rotec is Back With a 5'' Travel Play Bike - Interbike 2017

Sep 20, 2017
by Mike Levy  
Interbike 2017

Interbike 2017


Put your hand up if you remember those wild Rotec downhill bikes that were once raced by Eric Carter, among others, from back in the day. With their long swingarm that pivoted around the bottom bracket shell, moto-link style rear suspension, and tiny down tube paired with a massive top tube, they were unlike anything out there at the time. Those bikes and the Rotec name didn't stick around, though, and things moved on without them.

New ownership in 2001 saw Rotec show a few new designs over the years, including the RL9, a downhill sled that used the Lawwill suspension layout, but it's only now that the Washington-based company looks to be on the rise again.


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The new bike that they're hoping to ride back into relevance is the 2018 Revert 5.o, a short-travel machine penned with enduro and gravity riding in mind. Rotec says that it's designed to be a "simple, lightweight gravity influenced frame with hydroformed 6061 tubing,'' and a chip at the rearward shock mount can be flipped to have the Revert 5.o deliver either four or five-inches of travel.

Rotec's bikes were well known for their concentric bottom bracket pivot, and that continues on the Revert 5.o, although they're now calling it "Shared Pivot Technology.'' The single pivot layout is all about simplicity, it seems, and Rotec claims that it also delivers an "outstandingly stiff rear end." And speaking of rear ends, the 142mm wide sliding dropouts play nice with both 27.5'' and 26'' wheels, and it can even be setup as a single-speed (without the need for a spring-loaded tensioner) due to the concentric bottom bracket pivot as there's zero chain growth.


Interbike 2017
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The frame is ready for an internally routed dropper post, an ISCG 05 chain guide, and it sports a threaded bottom bracket shell. Rotec will offer two sizes: a medium with a 381mm long seat tube and 423mm reach, and a large that has a 406mm seat tube and 448mm reach. You can get a Revert 5.o frame sans shock for $1,499 USD, or pay $1,799 USD to get one with a DVO Topaz shock.


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Rotec also had their downhill rig, the Lawwill Nine, on display in their booth. While not new, the Nine is certainly worthy of a second look. The bike's Lawwill rear suspension delivers, you guessed it, nine-inches of travel, via a DVO shock that's driven directly off the swingarm. Of course, it also pivots concentrically around the bottom bracket, but the rear axle is attached to an upright rather than to the swingarm, and the shock is compressed from both ends as well.

The Lawwill Nine can accept either 27.5'' or 29'' wheels thanks to adjustable geometry, and it has a 63-degree head angle and 343mm bottom bracket height.


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153 Comments

  • 128 0
 A short travel bike with 26 or 275 options, and a DH bike with 275 or 29 options. What a world.
  • 7 6
 Exactly what I came here to say!
  • 62 2
 26 makes sense for a play bike, and 29 makes sense for a race bike. They are finally using the right sizes for the right tasks.
  • 7 0
 @boxxerace: PinkBikes Rule!
  • 4 2
 @pacificnorthwet: And you cannot play on a DH bike?!?
  • 2 1
 DH bike looks sick.
  • 2 1
 @pacificnorthwet: I know. My time at Whistler ripping up trails and jumping everything including Crab Apple was just awful and no fun on my 27.5 DH rig. Can't believe I just didn't pack up and go home after the first day. **sarcasm
  • 6 0
 @mentalhead: There are DH bikes built for speed, and there are DH bikes built for fun. You can play on a race bike or race on a play bike. The world is yours.
  • 3 0
 @bman33: I had a blast there whipping my 29er trail bike too. Doesn't change the fact that people still love 26 inch freeride bikes, and very few people race 26 inch DH bikes. That doesnt mean whipping a 29er or racing a 26er isn't a blast, and it most certainly does not mean you didn't have fun riding your bike in whistler no matter what it was. Bikes are fun!
  • 1 0
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: Leave it to China... sigh. I guess choices are good, even if sometimes they are bad ones. Wink
  • 1 0
 @YouHadMeAtDrugs: You cant see that that suspension design is quite different, right?
  • 33 6
 This! A long travel bike with no chain growth and shock compression independent of the front triangle... finally engineering comes before trends and ignores the "standard". Since Zerode DH disappeared I am looking forward to pushing the buy button on this sucker! It looks glorious in it's no compromises, function first appearance. If only it ditched the rear mech it would be the holy grail.
  • 6 1
 The reach numbers on it look very promising as well! Would love to see an axle path chart on this one
  • 9 0
 @skidrumr Question: Why do you want shock compression independent of the front triangle, and what makes you fell that this design does that? Honest question, not poking fun.
  • 6 4
 @aelazenby: I would assume that it means the real wheel tracks completely independent with the rear shock, reading the terrain alone - unlike a 'conventional' frame design that the rear end has to incorporate the entire frame to compensate for compression and rebound.

Essentially, both fork and shock can freely track individually which if you have high end damping products, you should really be able to get the best out of them, and the frame - unless you set your front and rear up like a 'Derek'
  • 3 0
 @Waldon83: Can't a frame also help to reduce the compression a shock needs if the design is correct. Here I'm thinking about R3ACT suspension. But I had the same idea about having a shock separated from the front triangle. And is a full floater design (take Trek Remedy or Fuel EX) really independent from the front triangle since the shock isn't directly connected to the seat stays.
  • 4 6
 No compromise? Check out that derailleur cable routing... And I would have liked to see a 12x148 rear end, if only to make sure that wheels are easy to find in the future.
  • 21 4
 Right, no anti squat so it will pedal like crap, just like all the other bb pivot bikes out there. This may come as a surprise to some people on here but bike companies tend to design bikes that ride well. There's a reason there are no bb pivot frames that aren't slopestyle bikes.
  • 5 1
 @samsq: a BB pivot doesn't necessarily mean it will pedal like crap because there will be no anti squat. Its only true if its a single pivot around the BB and then yes there would be no chain growth. But if you have a horst link in the design now you can have chain growth and the increase in pedal...ability. Think of the Specialized Demo.
  • 7 0
 Surely a rear linkage can't be completely independent of the front triangle? Look at the top linkage, any movement of the frame would be translated through that into the shock.
A bike with a fully floating rear linkage as you describe would just fold in on itself no??
  • 1 2
 It looks like the 4 link on the back of my off road truck... the idea is the rear end moves independent of the chassis
  • 3 0
 @freestyIAM: demo has anti squat though. It isn't a bb pivot bike, bb pivot means single pivot around the bb. The demo is horst link.

Also my brother owns a bb pivot bike (killswitch) that I have ridden many times. It pedals very badly for a 4 inch travel bike.
  • 2 1
 @Waldon83: What a load of twaddle...
  • 1 2
 I have a bb pivot on my old Cove g-spot and it bobs like hell. It's also a pain to clean/maintain, as the gaps between pivot and frame are tight.
  • 3 0
 "no chain growth" I wouldn't agree with that.
As article says "the rear axle is attached to an upright rather than to the swingarm" so chainstay lenght is not preserved through the travel
  • 1 1
 Is that a joke?
  • 4 1
 @samdaman1: It's a f*cking single pivot, you seriously can't tell what the axle path curve is going to look like?
  • 2 1
 @deadmeat25: It's not a Single pivot ! It's a f*cking a Yeti DH9 with a floating shox. (look closer at the last pict, the axle is not on the swingarm)

@freestyIAM: The demo is a dangerous bike
  • 1 1
 @kosumo: you clearly are ignoring the first part of the article where they talk about their single BB pivot bike. The one meant for pedaling. The one everyone is talking about.
  • 2 2
 @mtnbykr05: Sorry but I think the starter of this discussion was talking about the DH bike as he said "shock compression independent of the front triangle" and "Since Zerode DH disappeared I am looking forward to pushing the buy button on this sucker!". And in the discussion it all started to blend.
  • 2 1
 @samsq: DMR Sled has a concentric bb pivot and that bike is a hoot to pedal.
  • 2 2
 @samsq: I reckon rear shock firming technology has come plenty far enough to make this bike a decent enough climber... I run a bike with near no anti squat (105% , 100% being no anti squat) and while it pedals differently from a high anti squat design (I believe SC’s sit around 130-140%) I personally believe it’s well worth it in the gains the bike makes in rear suspension supplenesss
  • 2 0
 @Waldon83: The only thing compressing the shock like this gives as an advantage is if you have spacee issues and you dont need to reinforce the front triangle the same way to handle the load from a shock mount. In no way does is accomplish anything that cant be done with the shock attached to the front triangle.
  • 2 0
 @doe222: no it doesn't, the sled is dmr's version of vpp. Bb pivot means that it's a single pivot bike with the pivot around the bb, not just that it has a pivot at the bb. The bolt is bb pivot though.
  • 2 1
 @samsq: Current Specialized Demo? (For a long travel bike it pedals very well)
  • 1 0
 @o4cobra335: Not a bb pivot bike. BB pivot means single pivot suspension with the pivot around the bb. Demo is horst link, it just happens to have a pivot at the bottom bracket.
  • 1 0
 @ryanandrewrogers: Maybe but you also need to compromise axle path and bottom bracket height with bb pivot designs (if the bb is too low the rear wheel will hit the seat unless chainstays are made very long). I also don't think a bb pivot design is inherently more supple than other designs.
  • 1 0
 this is not a concentric pivot frame- it will certainly have chain growth.
  • 1 0
 @madm3chanic: the Lawwill has chain growth but the revert is a concentric bb pivot and doesn't
  • 2 0
 @samsq: true dat. sickdrumr was referring to the lawwill tho i think
  • 1 0
 @madm3chanic: ye you're right
  • 20 4
 There is a good reason that concentric bottom bracket pivots have gone away. With zero chain grown you also have zero anti-squat, which means it will bob more than a drunk man wearing water wings. At least it would rip coasting down hill.
  • 14 5
 It's a downhill bike no one cares about pedal bob
  • 4 5
 Such as the specialized demo and new intense 29" dh for example? A concentric is useful to keep chainstay length short and a really nice active feel.
  • 4 1
 @grundletroll: Remember Sam Hill's 2017 champs dh bike? That pedalled pretty well.
  • 2 3
 @aelazenby add to that a fairly high shock leverage ratio at 3.0 and the heavy damping you would have to run. Topaz reservoir is gonna be hotter than a fat hooker on a Friday night...
  • 3 0
 That's true for the Revert but not for the Lawwill DH bike, there you have chain grow and Lawwill bikes pedaled really well so far.
  • 1 1
 @grundletroll: people who race do. These days most of the people buying downhill bikes race, bike parkers and endurbros buy enduro bikes.
  • 2 0
 @aelazenby I totally hear you and you would think that. However, I got the chance to demo one and it is amazing, it does not akwardly bob or anything. (The technology of the DVO shock certainty helps a ton with this). But the trail bike rides downhill like a full on downhill bike and then you flip a switch and it climbs like a xc bike. It's really an amazing bike
  • 3 2
 @MVbikerMTB: You nailed it when you said the shock helps - I've ridden BB pivot bikes and they are horrible. The shock is the massive bandaid for a bad design. LSC was introduced years ago to fix pedal-induced bobbing, but the few designs left these days are almost so good as not to need it. This design is an exception.
  • 1 3
 @grundletroll: It has the lowest possible pivot point, this means the wheelbase is constantly shortening, this means it is not a f*cking DH bike.
  • 2 0
 @grundletroll: So many people calling eachother out for being wrong... make sure you're talking about the same bike first, there are two in the article. The 4 to 5 inch rear travel category bikes DO need to pedal well... And the first bike shown on the article is a combination of two things 1. Concentric BB, 2. Single pivot. Those two things WHEN COMBINED makes for a bike that is shitty to pedal uphill.
  • 2 1
 I’m not saying it’ll ever be a good climber by any means but I believe compression firming technology has come far enough to make such a design climbable, not much good, but doable
  • 17 0
 Lawwil design on their downhill bike is timeless,soo glad these guys using this design in modern times with the bigger wheels.
  • 13 0
 Excellent Rotec, back in the game and giving riders another option, got some good stuff going on there too. Keen to read a review on this steed.
  • 10 0
 Alright, good then. Do a group test. Rotec 5o, DMR Bolt (Long) and Starling Little Beady Eye. Get that air-time measurement device on the fork lowers, install the grinn-o-meter on your smartwatch and stick your cellphone in your back pockets to measure how much you're shitting yourselves. Looking forwards to the unbiased and digitally verified reviews on which bike is the most fun.
  • 2 0
 I just checked out that Starling. That looks like a seriously fun bike.
  • 15 1
 I demand a "suspension squish" video immediately.
  • 10 1
 Lawwill, one of the greatest suspension designs on earth! not too many youngsters know about the Schwinn Straight 6, Straight 8, 4Banger / and the Yeti DH4, DH8 and DH9... zero brake jack, vertical rear wheel travel and race proven geo for it's time. the RL9 is badass! I just wish I came in Bass boat gold and silver Big Grin
  • 3 0
 All great bikes! except the 4banger, you should not mount the brake on a lawwill designed bike where Schwinn thought it's a good idea to mount it on that bike
  • 1 1
 Tomac ran it for a while too. With a very similar full floater setup to this Rotec.
The old Schwinn/Yetis were rad, but had a massive amount of chain growth due to the almost vertical axle path. Saw a few dudes tear derailleurs off them landing jumps with it in the big cog and a slightly too short chain.
  • 2 0
 @JamesR2026: well, lol the suspension was great! and brake system lol.. yeah, I think if Schwinn/ Yeti and Rotec did a high mount pulley like canfield it may have helped. different era though. I remember having to run a long cage derailleur to help with the chain stretch
  • 1 1
 Yup! Had the Yeti version of the Straight 6, definitely one of the best DH frames ever.
  • 1 1
 After years of having a double page spread pulled from MBUK on the wall I had the opportunity to own a 2000 pull shock Straight 8 back in 2003 ish. What a bike! The only let down really was the RS pull shock, being a one of a kind, no-one had spares or much tuning capability for it. After a particularly nose heavy landing and a load of paint peeling off around the head tube area I sold it to a friend of a friend (with full disclosure of course - it's still in use today!) and bought the 2001 pull shock Straight 8. Again what a bike but even better due to the conventional Fox Van RC shock on it. The only down side was it was a bit long for technical sections on UK DH tracks at the time.

After a couple of years of not doing anywhere enough DH I sold it on and eventually got the itch again and while doing some journo work I reviewed the Rotec RL9 and ended up with an ex team frame for a couple of years. Gotta say the friendly support from Sully at Rotec was great. It was such a stable bike at speed and the suspension was soo plush and bottomless with no interference from the back brake. I don't really remember it bobbing particularly badly but hey it was a full on DH bike and I'm no racer so who gives a crap about pedalling right? It was a bit of a tank (could really have done with shedding a lb or two off the frame) and for ever more technical DH tracks was still a little bit long for UK use but still an amazing ride. I'm really keen to swing a leg over the new RL9 though, could be an interesting replacement for the Kona in a year or two.
  • 2 1
 @streetfighter848: I had the Straight 8, bottomless pull-shock travel. Good times!
  • 1 0
 @veero: I had my Fox Van RC rebuilt by P.U.S.H... so much better!!
  • 8 0
 Wow, I remember Rotec from back in the late 90's when Eric Carter used to ride for them before going over to GT. Even more crazy, my first online username over 16 years ago was... Rotec9. Nice to see them back in the game after all these years.
  • 10 0
 You're Rotec9?!?!?! You still owe me $13.00!!!!
  • 5 0
 @johnnygolucky: Welcome to RideMonkey. Gosh...I miss you fokkers!!!!!

Does it come in rootbeer???
  • 1 2
 @bizutch: looks flexy
  • 2 0
 @mtnbykr05: take it to the lounge
  • 6 0
 Looking good Rotec! I remember the day you walked into the shop and told me you bought Rotec, Sully. Glad you dialed in the new bike and I cannot wait for you to get a dialed in gearbox bike into actual production! Let's Ride!
  • 7 0
 That would be sick with a single speed rear cog, pinion and no tensioner, maybe belt drive too.
  • 4 0
 Something about the DH bike intrigues me. Titec, Funn, it's a throwback to a simpler time. I wish them luck. More choices and more unique bikes is good for us all. I think I'm more likely to round a corner and see someone pedaling a Brooklyn than I am to see someone on one of these though.
  • 7 0
 You had me at single speed...
  • 3 0
 These bikes are amazing. After one day of demoing a revert (which I wasn't even considering to buy) I pulled the trigger. This bike feels like it has bottomless suspension and doesn't get overwhelmed even in full on dh rock gardens. And to top it off with the dropper and dvo topaz this thing pedals up hills like a xc bike. Also, its so incredibly flickable, all in all just a fun bike!
  • 8 2
 I came here to see a pic of Sully's fine ass!!!! I am disappoint.
  • 2 0
 I am so tempted by the revert...
  • 5 1
 I am going to get one. Just have to sell kidney first.
  • 2 0
 @whattheheel: same here, money is so bad
  • 2 0
 @its-chris: They look rather good and very adaptable!
  • 2 0
 Me too!
  • 7 0
 Mine has been terrific. I used to run slope bikes at bike parks, and felt just a bit undergunned. Got the Revert and haven't looked back. It jumps just as well on the bike park stuff, and handles speed and the rough stuff tons better. If you're just looking to have some fun, throw some whips, and not worry about strava, that's your bike. It's replaced my DH bike because it's more fun, and I'm not fast enough to worry about times.
  • 2 0
 @its-chris: I'm getting one. I was always alittle unsure of not going for a massive brand. Then I demoed these bikes, Holy Crap! These bikes are the most confidence inspiring and just flat out the most fun bikes ever. Talk to Sully and get one of these bikes, you wont regret it.
  • 2 0
 @MVbikerMTB: Will see what I can do, with this kind of reviews a bike like this must be awesome!
  • 2 0
 @MVbikerMTB: buying blind is what stop me haha
  • 2 0
 @its-chris: I hear ya. It sucks you don't live in washington to demo one. It's the kind of bike I immediately felt comfortable on.
  • 1 1
 Chris, Sully and I go back like hairline. You buy.
  • 1 0
 @whattheheel: will work at a shop at the end of the year and will see where that goes
  • 5 0
 This is a mountain bike, you can ride it anywhere, set it up how you like and have loads of fun! Salute
  • 6 1
 The Revert is compatible with both 27.5 and 26? Is that a typo or did they really design a new bike around 26" wheels?
  • 16 1
 Not a typo. 26 4 lyfe. Or something.
  • 5 0
 @mikelevy: you forgot the hashtag, c'mon man. #26forlife
  • 1 1
 I know it's amazing right. Put on 26" wheels, flip the chip to 4" travel, quickly change the dvo diamond fork travel, single speed, and you have yourself a slopestyle/freeride bike. Lengthen the travel and put 27.5 on and it's an enduro bike.
  • 5 0
 There is still something awesome looking about their DH bike, and the ability to run 29 or 27.5 wheels is a plus!
  • 4 0
 Welcome Back! Sully, I still own your last production RL9, and still said, " Smooooooth" in every single time when I was riding it down the hill.
  • 1 0
 Yup. It just works!
  • 4 0
 The Revert looks like a DJ and enduro made a baby. That could be the ultimate single-speed jumping machine!
  • 3 0
 For all you youngin's who have never seen a Rotec, behold this creation cdn.coresites.factorymedia.com/dirt_new/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/RotecMain.jpg
  • 1 0
 chain is bound up a bit huh...
  • 1 0
 I ride an older rotec rl9. She's quite heavy but tracks really good and is super nimble. I originally got this frame as I wanted a single speed DH rig but found there was a bit o chain stretch towards the top of the travel. ( all my other non-DH bikes are single speed ) I ridden a bunch of other dh bikes and they just didn't handle as well as my tank does. I feel she's very responsive and just wants to go faster and faster the more obstacles it encounters though it keeps a line well and one feels very in sync with it. It's handled everything I've thrown at it. Part of it might be the suspension set up and such. 10 pounds of stuff in 5 pound bag they say. Got Avalanche Cartridge in the older Fox 40 and an Remote Avalanche rear shock. Regular Fox stuff just wasn't cutting it. Go out and ride you a Rotec and see for yourself how well they handle. I've had a hell of a time passing up those opinionated hater fellers' on the DH sector . Anyone out there currently bombing on a Rotec right now ?? Some feed back on you rig would be great. Thanks ya'll

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  • 1 0
 The Revert is one of the most playful bikes you'll ride. Loves to pop and play while stil being quite capable and a do all bike. Is doesn't pedal like most trailbikes, and thats a well known trait of a concentric bike, but that doesn't make it capable. Paired with the technology of the DVO rear shock it makes for a great ride. More fun than most bikes I have ridden. Thanks sully for making this thing!
  • 5 0
 Love it
  • 3 0
 Hurry up and release the Rotec enduro revox sully haha I'm trying to hold off buying something else.
  • 2 0
 If anyone in the Uk is interested in Rotec check out EVOLUTION CYCLES ,we will have a couple of Revert 5.0 demos built and ready to ride soon www.evocycles.co.uk
  • 1 0
 first they better invest in some way of keeping shit out of the shock............
  • 2 0
 @john260164: *Used Tire Innertube* or a fender. Just like any other bike.
  • 2 2
 Pleas tell me again how every PinkBike member is and expert bicycle engineer and mechanic with eyars of experience designing different style pivots setups!! stop speculating start riding! I think its cool AF I'd ride the shit out of it.
  • 1 0
 I actually am... that's why I don't post shit here...
  • 1 1
 Unlike the Revert, the Lawilll might actually pedal, despite having almost double the travel. The Revert is a fashion statement bike with a compromised functionality. Its great virtue is the rear end rigidity and I'm all for it, however it's also generally accepted that some give in the rear end improves traction. And a good VPP design is more rigid anyway.
  • 3 0
 Any reviews on these yet? Love the designs.
  • 5 0
 I've been on a Revert for a few months. I can answer any questions you may have. Bike has been an absolute monster. I'm running mine singlespeed and a pure fun bike. Loves the bikeparks and jump parks. Handles the tech and gnar surprisingly well for a 5" bike. If you want to know any specifics hit me up.
  • 2 0
 @Da-Moose @m1dg3t : I ride for Rotec over in Washington. If you were to take the stability and grip of a DH bike and combine it with the flickability and easy maneuverability of a slope bike, this would be the result. I've confidently thrashed it down steep double-black DH trails and hucked it off huge gaps without finding its limits. Feels like way more than 5 inches of travel. I've even used it during full-on DH races and had a blast doing so. I've got a few videos on my channel if you're looking into one and want to see it in some action.

Build it up with the recommended DVO/TRP/FUNN/Box Components setup and this thing is downright unstoppable.
  • 2 0
 @m1dg3t its an amazing bike. It's so fun I bought one after one day of demoing it. It feels like it has bottomless suspension, and it has so much control that you have a smile stuck on your face the whole way down. On top of that with the crazy high end components like DVO it's unbelievable.
  • 1 0
 What travel fork is the Revert designed around?
  • 4 0
 @MTBrent: a 160mm fork I think, I've been running mine with 26" wheels with a 140mm fork and it feel phenomenal.
  • 3 0
 They need to bring back external cable routing FTW
  • 3 0
 Want this bike. Please throw some early bird deals!!!
  • 3 0
 Hey Pinkbike, come back and see the 29 dh,,,you missed it
  • 1 0
 And it looks bloody GOOD to mate
  • 2 0
 Loved the original Rotec DH frim back in the day, looked like a Honda CR frame choped in half....
  • 2 0
 Sweet! I wonder if all the other under dogs will make a return? Cove, mountain cycle, Karpiel.
  • 1 0
 I'd sell pretty much sell anything to see a updated version of the 2ng generation shockwave, forever looking for an old one to use as a mold and still the linkage parts off.
  • 1 0
 Armeggedon. seems like a fitting time to have that one return!
  • 2 1
 Look at all the kinematic specialists and frame design engineers on here!! Truly amazing you have all gathered in this one spot on the internet. How lucky we are.
  • 1 0
 I'm so upset the industry has given up on 26" wheels. I'm sure they can continue to manufacture 26" and market it as "child sized" DH bikes...
  • 1 0
 This bike is amazing. I got to pedal it around at stevens pass a few weeks ago and it was amazing. even just pedaling it felt better than any other bike ive ridden
  • 4 5
 Is it just me or does it seem strange that Levy chose to use a picture of the Orange 324 as the header picture for all things Interbike related? Is Orange even going to be at Interbike?
  • 3 7
flag jaycubzz (Sep 20, 2017 at 14:16) (Below Threshold)
 ugh and its awful welds
  • 2 11
flag SnowshoeRider4Life (Sep 20, 2017 at 14:28) (Below Threshold)
 And it's garbage single pivot bs
  • 3 1
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: Like Evil bikes have? Pretty much everyone hates the way those ride too!
  • 1 2
 @boxxerace: linkage driven. There's a difference.
  • 2 0
 @SnowshoeRider4Life: The shock definitely ramps up on an Evil thanks to the linkage, is that what you are referring too? (I'm an Evil owner as well). Thanks,
  • 1 1
 linkage allows for more manipulation of the bike. a single pivot relies entirely on the shock. ill take more pivots any day.. and I run a gambler, which is a linkage driven one as well.
  • 4 1
 That Revert is pure sex
  • 2 0
 the welds on both of these bad boys are fine AF!
  • 1 0
 the frames just exude serious craftmanship. and rotec offers smart options for riders that have a choice of wheelsets.????
  • 1 0
 Schwinn Straight 8 suspension design (almost). Love that classic design!
  • 1 0
 This bike looks really really good! 4-5" travel. 26" wheels...!!!
  • 1 0
 hey guys, come on! How come no one has whined about no bottle cage mount!
  • 1 2
 Pedal squat and a constantly shortening wheelbase make this the worst suspension design it is possible to make, just like it was when they first did it, this is bullshit.
  • 1 0
 The DH bike reminds me of an old Tomac Big Grin
  • 1 0
 I wanted that so badly.. In 2005.
  • 1 0
 Wow...such love for the lil guy who's trying to survive
  • 3 5
 I especially like how the rear tire is going to throw shit into the shock and fuck it up. I race Giant dh team frames for three years....know all about that.
  • 1 0
 agreed. did they forget about that do you think or was it that they designed it for dry riding only?
  • 1 1
 they are still selling the dh bike from 2006?
  • 1 2
 No water bottle fittings?
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