Round Up: 20 Different EWS Tire Combinations

Nov 15, 2020
by Ed Spratt  
Everyone has their preferred tire of choice, and with so many different tire choices and combinations we decided to look through back through the archives to find some of the tire choices of the world's top riders, everything from the tried and trusted tire combos to the more obscure options from the first years of the EWS.




Goodyear Newton ST // Newton

Newton ST
Newton

Goodyear launched their new range of MTB tires back in 2018 and we spotted Charles Murray opting to run a combination of the Newton ST and the all-rounder Newton tires at the final round of the 2020 EWS in Finale. The Newton tire out back has plenty of L shaped knobs to provide grip through corners and a lower profile center tread keeps things rolling fast.




Maxxis Assegai

Maxxis

While the Assegai was first developed as a DH tire it has seen plenty of popularity at the EWS, with it being fitted to a number of pro riders bikes in all sorts of combinations. For a quite a few riders a double Assegai has been their preference with plenty of grip, control and all-round performance across a range of stage types.

Iago Garay Megatower

Richie Rude SB150 - Ainsa EWS Winning Bike

Tech from the La Thuile EWS pits



Schwalbe Magic Mary // Hans Dampf

Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6
Garda Bike Fest 2018. Lago di Garda Italy. Photo by Matt Wragg

The Magic Mary and Hans Dampf pairing has been another popular choice among riders as it provides predictable traction in most conditions. The Magic Mary up front provides plenty of grip even when things get wet and the Hans Dampf keeps things rolling fast out back.


Lewis Buchanan Forbidden bike




Maxxis Assegai // Minion DHR II

Maxxis
Maxxis DHR II

Just like in World Cup DH, a very frequent tire choice among pro riders is the Assegai, DHR II combo. While 2 Assegai's can provide plenty of traction, with a weight of 1,300 grams and a super tacky compound its rolling speed is never going to be something to write home about. This could be why some riders opt to match it with a DHR II so they aren't having to haul 2 Assegai's around a day of riding.

Jack Moir Canyon Strive

Damien Otton bike check

Robin Wallner bike check



Maxxis Minion DHF // Minion DHRII

Maxxis Minion DHF
Maxxis DHR II

While not as popular as it used to be, the DHF and DHR II is a classic combo. The DHF is great to have at the front bike, where its dedicated channel between the outside cornering blocks lets the tire bite down into turns, and the DHR II on the rear helps with braking traction where you need it most.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check



Schwalbe Magic Mary // Big Betty

Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6
Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check

The Big Betty made a return to Schwable's line up for 2020 and we spotted it already being raced at this year's short EWS season in Zermatt as a rear tire. The new offering features rectangular center knobs that are designed to dig in for braking traction, and side knobs that offer plenty of support in corners. This makes a great pair with the reliable and grippy Magic Mary all-rounder on the front.

Wyn Masters and Eddie Masters bike check



Hutchinson Toro

Hutchinson 2015 tires Hutchinson Toro 2.35

The Hutchinson Toro provides consistent levels grip with a tread pattern optimised for lateral grip and braking. With aggressive shoulder knobs, the Toro bites into the loose ground while also offering decent levels of rolling speed for when the trails aren't as soft and loose.

Kevin Miquel bike check

Cecile Ravanel is rolling out in Finale aboard a new stealthy looking meta.



Maxxis DHR II

Maxxis DHR II

Unlike at World Cup DH races where the DHR II can be seen front and rear on plenty of bikes it is less frequent at EWS races. This could be because of the better cornering properties of an Assegai or DHF. The DHR II still provides plenty of traction and its blocks designed to enhance braking still make it a good choice on the steeper tracks.

EWS Trophy of Nations - Connor Fearon s Kona



Schwalbe Magic Mary // Dirty Dan

Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6

While the Magic Mary provides plenty of traction and grip as a front tire, during the 2019 Trophy of Nations Martin Maes decided to run a Dirty Dan mud tire designed for deep mud and soft terrain as a rear tire.

Martin Maes GT - 29 front and rear for the first time



Michelin Wild Enduro

Michelin Wild Enduro tire review
Michelin Wild Enduro tire review

The Wild Enduro tires from Michelin offer two slightly different tread patterns for the front and rear tires with larger blockier side knobs for the front and a lower profile rear design. The front tire offers plenty of traction through corners and through tricky terrain while the Wild Enduro Rear runs faster than the front tire and also receives additional reinforcement around the bead to help prevent pinch flats.

TON Finale Ligure 2019



WTB Vigilante


WTB's Vigilante is another all-round tire that is popular on the EWS circuit that offers predictable performances across a range of surface types. With a prominent tread pattern it can dig into most trail conditions and it is able to clear quickly. The tread isn't quite as aggressive as some of the other options being used by riders.

Enduro World Series Madeira 2019 bikes




Maxxis HRII

Maxxis Highroller II 2.3 mounted to 30mm internal width rim

The High Roller is a classic tire from Maxxis, with it firmly sitting as a great all-round tire with good levels of grip, control, braking, and rolling resistance on most surfaces. The HR II has become far less popular in recent years with more and more riders opting for DH oriented tires like the Assegai.

EWS amp 2016. Valberg France. Photo by Matt Wragg.



Specialized Butcher

2021 Specialized Stumpjumper EVO review

The Butcher from Specialized is another DH tire that has been adopted by EWS riders and with plenty of blocky knobs it is able to bite into the ground for plenty of traction. The latest version of the Butcher has been revised to improve rolling speed and grip, as well as control under hard braking and cornering.

Enduro World Series Madeira 2019 bikes



Bontrager G5


Used mostly by the Trek Factory Racing team, the all-rounder G5 tire uses a tread profile that's intended to provide maximum grip at different lean angles with center knobs designed to increase braking traction. The more open tread spacing lets any trapped mud clear off the tire for better grip in tougher conditions.




Bontrager G5 // SE5


Another combo used by the Trek team is the DH-oriented G5 paired with the faster rolling SE5 tire. The SE5 bases its tread of the G5 but aims to roll faster, making it a great rear option where you need the least rolling resistance.

Katy Winton



Schwalbe Magic Mary // Nobby Nic

Schwalbe Magic Mary 2.6

The pairing of the Magic Mary and the Nobby Nic is another combination which looks for all-round performance, as the Magic Mary provides consistent levels of grip up front and the Nobby Nic provides a fast roller rear tread to keep things moving at a pace.




Maxxis Shorty

Maxxis Shorty review

Featuring big blocks in its tread the Shorty works best when digging into soft, muddy trails and its outwardly angled tread pattern clear mud making it a great choice when the conditions are very tricky.

Tech from the La Thuile EWS pits



Vittoria Goma

Colorado USA. Photo by Matt Wragg.

With a rounded shape the Goma from Vittoria offered plenty in the corners and because of a minimalist tread pattern it was also fast rolling. The Goma works great as a rear tire but without larger side knobs it could suffer for grip at the front when up against other options.

Colorado USA. Photo by Matt Wragg.



Maxxis Shorty // DHRII

Maxxis Shorty review
Maxxis DHR II

To keep maximum grip in the wet and muddy conditions but still retain a good level of rolling speed some riders choose to pair a Maxxis Shorty up front with a DHR II for the rear. This pairs the excellent traction of the Shorty in soft conditions with the braking traction and lower rolling resistance of the DHR II.

Jesse Melamed Rocky Mountain Instinct EWS 2018



Maxxis HRII // Ardent

Maxxis Highroller II 2.3 mounted to 30mm internal width rim

You definitely don't see this combo much if at all in 2020, but back in 2013 for the first-ever EWS both Greg Minnaar and Steve Peat rocked up on their Santa Cruz Bronson rocking the Maxxis High Roller II as a front tire and the all-round trail tire the Ardent out back.

Steve Peat and his Santa Cruz Bronson

Greg Minnaar and his Santa Cruz Bronson



Michelin DH22


The DH22 tire from Michelin may not have seen quite as much success as a downhill tire, but under Sam Hill it has seen plenty of success in the EWS. For most races in 2019, Sam ran this as a front and rear option for maximum grip and braking traction.





Michelin DH22 // Wild Enduro


Another Michelin combo is the pairing of the DH22 and the Wild Enduro tire. This was a choice Sam Hill made for the Maeaira EWS in 2019.

Nukeproof





227 Comments

  • 138 1
 The lack of Smoke/Dart combos is disappointing.
  • 30 0
 So fast in the 1.95 size
  • 6 1
 @salespunk: 2.1 was the classic.
  • 2 0
 Ha. I wonder what a pair of spikes would ride like nowadays?
  • 12 0
 and Ritchey Zmax!
  • 5 0
 @johnny2shoes: still good in the slop but hard rubber so not great on roots and rocks if wet.
Still have them for the really wet days on my 26”
  • 3 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Is red compound in a 1.7. Can you imagine that size now. I think I also had a pair of 1.5's as well but not sure if I have imagined that. I loved those tires.
  • 2 0
 Not to mention Sniff/Scratch.
  • 7 0
 Got nothin on the panaracer fire xc pro
  • 2 0
 I have a pair of folding Dart SC 2.2's brand new in the box believe it or not!!
  • 2 0
 yes! only mountain bikers who had the rare luck to start in the early 90s and thus experience all relevant stages of development of the sport, understand what you mean :-)
  • 1 0
 LOL, my friend just finally stopped riding his 1998 Hammer Race with a Panaracer Magic Smoke in the back. I'm gonna miss the white (beige now) tire!
  • 1 0
 Those were the days.
  • 75 3
 couldn't fit a kenda or a continental combination between some of the maxxis?
  • 35 0
 Kinda surprising. Seems like lots of folks are on Kenda again these days, Conti not as much but they’re still out there. And the only vittoria they found was a 6 year old Geax Goma. Seems like the Mazzza/Martelllo combo is gaining in popularity. And no Hutchinson Griffus which Isabeau dominates on. Admittedly, Maxxis are definitely the most dominant brand, but that also means that we’ve seen the Maxxis combos about a million times by now.
  • 5 0
 @Trudeez: Yeah I was a big fan of Continental since the 90s, and still have it on my XC and road bikes, but ditched for a pair of Kendas Hellcat AGC (front) and Navegal 2 pro ATC (back). I was looking to see what the pros were riding! Continentals leaked so much air and always had a kinda moisture on the sides, they seemed to grow life in there lol
  • 9 0
 @t-stoff: definitely seeing a lot more people running Hellkats and Pinners these days. Kenda has been working hard to regain some of their market share. The latest generation Der Kaiser is a fantastic rear tire, but leaves a little to be desired in the front and the Der Baron just didn’t work for me in the dry and dust where I ride. However it’s amazing in the wet roots and rocks. I hope Conti has some new stuff coming because their casings are finally catching up to the rest and the Black Chili is phenomenally good. My go to right now is the Mazza/Martello and it’s the best I’ve tried to date (I’ve tried everything if you can’t tell haha).
  • 14 0
 @Trudeez: *Kenda surprising
  • 11 0
 Continental is the best rubber paired with the worst carcas ever. I used to ride them in the early 2010s. But I managed to break threads and tires went wobbly. Last year I wanted to give them a try, so bought 29 2.4 Barons. I was not able to seal the rear tire (with cushcore) for a week, then it blew out of the rim at around 3.5 bar, and the threads have been damaged. The one in the front sealed after 2 weeks of leaking sealant near the bed. After a year it leaked sealant through the sidewall like crazy.
Its a pity, because the rubber was very grippy and durable.I will wait for another iteration Wink
  • 3 2
 @Trudeez: yeah that Goma is what nightmares are made of. Surprised no mention of the new crop of tires from Vittoria.
  • 4 0
 @lkubica: Agreed, not the easiest to mount. The Der Baron Project is the best I've used for UK winter, it's soo good over wet roots/rocks.
  • 5 0
 @Smokey79: it is! barons were great in the winter.
but the carcas, as lkubica is saying is the worst. It's terrible when you pay 60 euro for a tire and after some trouble on a jump you get a permanently bent tire. And the added leakage. Blank Stare
  • 1 0
 @Trudeez: I had a completely opposite experience with the Der Baron. I love it in dry, dusty, and fast conditions but it was terrifying in the wet...
  • 4 0
 @Trudeez: I raced mazza/martello at Ashland enduro this year. Worked great. I like the agarro on the rear for trail rides, but martello for harder days. Designer of vittoria tires (who also designed the dhf) says he uses mazza agarro combo, and it's amazing.
  • 9 1
 Their eyes were too watery from gagging on maxxis...
  • 3 12
flag bbc611 (Nov 14, 2020 at 10:07) (Below Threshold)
 @Trudeez: maxxis is the most dominant because of marketing dollars thats all! I would like to see the marketing dollar figures of all the brands! I bet maxxis is more the triple! In my neck of the woods its mostly maxxis and schwalby only trails side flats I've ever seen ya you guessed it maxxis... thats in 3 years of riding mtb is all though
  • 2 0
 @Trudeez: but have you tried the wild enduro!? I agree the der baron was sketchy on everything besides wet lol I liked the der kieser until I tried the wild enduro i dont see myself changing if only to try the vittoria combo
  • 2 0
 @t-stoff: Same with the side wall seepage on the Kenda Pinned Pro AGC... WTF? And a lot of thread ware showing on the sidewalls after 2 rocky rides... These will be my last Kenda purchase, going back to Maxxis.
  • 2 0
 @bbc611: Been running Wild Enduro for the last year, amazing tires. Tried a Martello trail for a lighter, faster option as a rear tire and got a sidewall slash 1st ride. They are definitely lighter, but not faster with a slashed sidewall.
  • 1 0
 I've got Kenda Hellkats front and rear on my enduro bike. They are great!
  • 4 0
 What abt e13? Love mine.
  • 2 0
 @bbc611: you’re definitely onto something. Maxxis is the gold standard based on marketing clout (advertising, sponsorship, sponsored reviews). I personally have never had much luck with them on my bikes but a LOT of people swear by them.
  • 1 0
 @bbc611: I had wild enduros when they were still proto, scored a set from A local sponsored rider and friend. They were really good but weren’t quite the best in our loose over hard stuff in Reno, but worked great in Tahoe DG or Moon Dust. I believe there’s been one evolution since I had them so they’re probably better now. I believe when I tried them they were called the Wild Gripper Enduro and now they’re just called the Wild Enduro or something like that. I felt like the very small sipe cut on the corner knob wasn’t enough to find the grip in my loos over hard but they hooked up awesome on everything else. Currently loving the Mazzas for my conditions. Also loved the Griffus fwiw.
  • 3 0
 @MTB-Colada:

I also have e13 because I purchased YT bike. They look awesome, a ton of grip, but the rolling resistance is terrible. When I’m in really good shape I’m still fast up hill, but if I take a couple weeks off I struggle. I’ve used Maxxis Agressors on the rear and it’s a good mix of rolling resistance and grip
  • 2 0
 Sponsor driven....it's the rider not the tire.
  • 1 0
 Hellcat front, pinner rear....goldilocks combo here in Colorado
  • 4 0
 @mtb-sf: i use Martello/Agarro on a hardtail, and would never put Agarro on my enduro rig. Agarro is nice trail tyre but it has no breaking power. A friend of mine rides Mazza/Martello on an enduro rig, nice set up, but we both think that Martello at the back is bit too drifty on a bigger bike.

This whole article is just a compilation of old photos and yes, we all know that alot of people ride Maxxis, so nothing interesting here. I, personally, dont get, what so magical about Maxxis. Vittoria are really nice tyres, love the new Hutchinson Griffus on dry conditions. Still love WTB tyres - Convict, Vigilante. New Kendas are good tyres. Lots of choces, its not only Maxxis.
  • 1 1
 @wtmorgan1: Ok, not sure I have really felt that. Haven't ridden the aggressor, which may very well be an improvement over e13, but the e13 can't have more rolling resistance than say a DHF/DHR II combo I would think.
  • 1 0
 I have a V2 Ibis Ripley that came with Conti Trail Kings which I really enjoyed. Replaced them with Barons for those days in CO where it gets wet because the roots were super slippery with the Trail Kings. The Barons were so unpredictable in dry conditions I threw them away after 6 to 8 rides. Zero confidence and sketchy in the front. I was convinced there was a defect but neither I or my mechanic could readily identify one.
  • 1 0
 @Rainallday: Interesting experience. I've used the Martello rear and it works great, but the Agarro feels so fast I love it. It seems like it has plenty of grip where I ride so it must just be different kinds of terrain favor it.

On my hardtail I have an Agarro on the front and a Morsa on the back. I'm going to try a Barzo on the rear to make it ride even faster.
  • 1 0
 @mtb-sf: I had Vittoria Mezcal F/R on a 26" hardtail and its a really nice fast tyre - you should try it. Mezcal is a dry tyre.
  • 1 0
 @Rainallday: I had that on my gravel bike and liked it a lot for that, but it rubbed the frame.
  • 51 1
 Forgot the combo of Maxxis Minion DHF // Minion DHRII with the logo colored in.
  • 46 15
 The blacked-out DHF is the best tire Michelin has never made!
  • 18 0
 Specialized*
  • 6 1
 I think in recent years the blacked out Magic Mary has replaced the blacked out DHF. And recently there has even been a blacked out Michelin at a wc race.
  • 8 0
 @Ttimer: Loic was running blacked out Michelin Muds in the limited WC this year.
  • 1 1
 @Auto-XFil: Clearly you've never tried the Michi Enduro?
  • 37 2
 The riders sponsors tire brands front tire on the front, the rider sponsors rear tire on the back. Sometimes the sponsored rider puts their sponsored tire brands front tires on front and back. Sometimes when it's wet the sponsored rider uses the sponsors wet tire to clear muds.
  • 30 2
 and sometimes when the sponsors tyres are shit, they run Maxxis with the logos coloured in
  • 34 1
 30 psi in my Minions. I don’t care about your opinions.
  • 18 2
 DH22s front and rear - Sam Hill always seems to fly under the radar when it comes to the power he can put out, absolute beast
  • 1 0
 Impressive indeed! But im sure the crazy grip allows him to save energy for the pedalling.
  • 2 0
 Funny that the wild Enduro with the yellow logos I believe it's a DH casing version not available to mortals.. The thread is very different from dh34 or dh22.. I would buy awild Enduro rear in DH casing any day..
  • 1 0
 @Lagr1980: A little bird told me that indeed those are DH casing WEs, supposedly to be realised in the future.
Definitively interested on those, love the WE thread but the casings are a little too flimsy for my particular use
  • 13 1
 Would love to see a Big Betty review. I think its one of few tires in the list that I haven't seen any/many reviews on. I'm sure thats just because its brand new this year, but still, would love to see how it compares to other standard options like the DHR2/etc.

Also, low key surprised that you see the WTB Vigilante in the mix (which they call out as being slightly less agressive than some tires), but not their Judge, or Verdict tires, which are their very aggressive tires.
  • 4 0
 I have one for over a month, which is not long enough. My first observations on 29 2.4 Super Trail Soft on 30mm inner rim. It is narrower than Dhr 2.4 by 2-3mm. The casing is much tougher than exo. Sidewalls are stiff as f*ck and mounting it with Cushcore is a nightmare (and I can mount CC with maxxiss in 15min with 1 plastic lever). Apex gives a lots of support in berms. Rolling is slover than dhr but this is visible mainly on tamrac. Traction is great, it is harder to drift. I am comparing to max Terra exo dhr.
On the other hand I am dissapoibted a bit with Magic Marty on the front, but this is just poor joice for my riding, I should have chosen assegai as I ride lots of roots and MM is not the best on hard slippery surfaces. BB is doing great on everything.
  • 5 5
 @lkubica: magic is a loam and mud tyre, it hates roots
  • 1 4
 @Noeserd: I wonder whether it’s their rubber. I have not tried the MM, but I have the fat Albert combo and while they are great in the dry for what I ride, they are a disaster in the wet. Especially wet roots. Then again, the pros seem to be doing quite well with Schwalbe tires, also on wet roots, but I get pinged around, slide on every root and loose all control. I will be swapping them to my old HR-II now in winter, just to feel a bit safer.
  • 8 0
 Once I started riding schwalbe's addix line up of tires, I never went back to any other brand. The magic marry in soft or ultra soft provides amazing traction under nearly any trail condition and soil type. I run loads of their rear tires. I've got a few park lap of the Betty but, as a rear tire, it holds grip longer than a marry does which isn't always a good thing. Having some looseness in the rear fits my riding style. Betty's larger knobs seem that they will last longer. Throw gravity casings on anything from park days, enduro and rowdy trail rides.
  • 1 0
 @mitochris: MM soft is very good on either wet or dry or snow. it will do the job, the grip is insane but a bit slippery on roots if its really wet
  • 1 3
 @ocnlogan The big Betty has been around for many years, maybe even a decade. I have some in 26" and was always impressed with the cornering ability - they really dig in!
  • 2 1
 I'm running Dissector 2.4/Rekon2.4 (WR1 Insider wheelset) on my Ripmo for summer use. I was looking for beefier combo for muddy conditions or really gnarly riding. I went with MM2.6/BB2.4 on my stock Ibis wheelset. I'm really please with my Schwalbe set. The new Super trail casing is really stiffer than exo. Traction is amazing and the "monster truck effect" is really reassuring in less than ideal condition. Climbing traction and braking is really good with Big Betty. I'm so please that I'm building an allround hardtail to use for mellower ride in will keep my Ripmo in burlier mode. Only draw back, between wheels and tires my bike is 2 pounds heavier. I also wish Schwalbe would offer Magic Mary super trail in super soft compound. For reference, the year before I was running DHF 2.5/Agressor2.5 (slower than Dissector/rekon, not so good in wet/mud in my experience, better on hardback than MM/BB)
  • 4 0
 The old vigilante, which they posted a picture of, is a less aggressive tire, but the newer 2.5s are very comparable to a Magic Mary and make an ideal enduro tire. The knobs have been huge success the Vigilante update in 2018.
  • 2 0
 @skylerd: absolutely agree, my go to tire for the Moon dust conditions at North Star and the likes. It just grips.
  • 6 1
 @Noeserd: The Magic Mary is quite good on roots in Ultra Soft. So weird that they're not offering ultra soft in their new Super Trail casings, you need to step up to Super Gravity (which is fine). Massive fail on Schwalbe for that.
  • 2 0
 @Noeserd: Riding on wet roots right now with a MM front and it does not slide. Schwalbes are very sensitive to pressure, as you must know. I was running 21/23 today in soft, slightly greasy conditions and it was very reassuring.
  • 1 2
 @ProChargedZ28: They don’t touch Maxxis maxx grip offerings for our and out grip but they’re nowhere near as hard to pedal around all day. Purple Mary’s and amazing amount of grip for how well they roll.
  • 2 0
 I've found the Vigilante has the most predictable characteristics in loose dry conditions of any front tire I've ridden, especially in the sort of intermediate, not leaned all the way over corners you get on natural trails rather than big bermed up corners, as opposed to say a Minion which is sort of all-or-nothing with its tread pattern. The 2.5 Vigilante has taller knobs than the 2.3 as well, it's pretty aggressive.
  • 2 0
 The only thing I would say that hasn’t been mentioned on the BB, is braking traction is absolutely insane. The center knobs are super tall and basically walls on the braking side, and are definitely the best braking rear tire I’ve used. I ran them at the BME in Big Sky MT with super steep and loose trails and it was noticeable how much less I was skidding compared to others
  • 1 0
 @Noeserd: smaller diameter roots that can get between the lugs I would agree. Many other tires would also struggle there though, The Mary is also an awesome hard pack tire.
  • 3 0
 @ProChargedZ28: yeah the addix schwalbe tires are amazing. I was a total maxxis fan, then my new bike came with Magic Mary/Hans Dampf. I am now a schwalbe man!
  • 4 0
 @RobByatt: his question was regarding the new Big Betty that came out last month. The Super Big Betty.
  • 1 0
 @cool3: rode some trails today, it slips a lot on wet rocks but yeah fine with roots, 21psi
  • 3 0
 Schwalbe Big Betty's are their answer to the Maxxis DHRII.
They're quite similar in appearance and in suggested application.
Absolutley fantastic tyre.
Until recently Schwalbe only really had the Marys (and Dans) as their proper gravity tyres, but thankfully decided to add a couple more. I know Hans Dampf came in gravity orientated compounds and sidewalls, but they were only ever a beefed up trail tyre.
Now the updated Bettys and even the updated Nobby Nics have proper side/cornering knobs.

Also, I see people saying Mary's aren't good on wet roots? Hugely disagree. Best front tyre going, for pretty much anything bar deep slop or polished rock
  • 2 1
 @IllestT: Dan needs 2.6 and 2.8 versions imo
  • 1 1
 @Noeserd: hahaha, good one
  • 10 2
 I never get tired of these reviews...
  • 6 1
 It left me feeling a little flat
  • 3 2
 insert pun here>
  • 2 1
 I'm waaaay two tired for this.
  • 4 0
 This conversation is deflating
  • 4 0
 @ppshanrider: you guys need to keep these jokes rolling
  • 3 0
 @Ooofff: I would but it feels like I’m just tread ing water.
  • 1 0
 Good tires help over inflate my ego.
  • 2 0
 @JSTootell: I feel pressure to reply
  • 9 4
 what has happened to tyre logo / valve alignment?! Shame on you mechanics! (this is a joke comment before people start crying..)
  • 3 1
 There is some merit to the comment though. As I was always told, you line up the tire logo with the valve because it makes the valve easier to spot right away. I think in an EWS setting, should you need to do any kind of service to your tire mid race you would want to be able to find the valve as quickly as possible. It could definitely be viewed as a faux pas when races potentially come down to a few tenths of a second.
  • 10 1
 @Trudeez: if youre needing to fix your tyre in the middle of the stage then tenths of a second wont matter much
  • 5 11
flag ProChargedZ28 (Nov 14, 2020 at 4:29) (Below Threshold)
 Mechanics brainwashed by marketing care about lining up the logo and valve. Marketing reps enforced it and the world followed. Good mechanic's will line the valve and psi rating of the tire together
  • 22 0
 @ProChargedZ28: why would a good mechanic line up the valve and the psi rating? A good mechanic or even a regular Joe doesn't look at the psi rating to inflate a tire.
  • 2 0
 @toad321: hat makes no sense at all. In the middle of a stage is where it matters the most.
  • 29 1
 The real reason you line up the logos is so that you can find punctures consistently. This was way more important in the old days when we still ran tubes and XC races were done point to point with no outside support allowed. There were times when a rider had to find 5+ thorn holes while patching a tube. You could line up the valve stem with the logo, then find the thorns in the tire making it easier to find the holes in the tube.

This is the real reason that lining up the logos/valve stems was carried over from the road where they had the same problem with glass in the tires. Now it is just tradition and looks better anyway.

F&^k I am old
  • 2 0
 @tbubier: THIS. I use the good ol' hand squeeze method until its obvious I need a couple of pumps of air.
  • 3 4
 @salespunk: you don't use holes to find the thorns, you use the thorns to find the holes. And you shouldn't be removing the second bead of the tire from the rim when you're fixing a flat during a race.

You must be in sales.
  • 4 0
 This feels a bit like a list of every decent tire on the market. No complaint here, I did read the whole thing! Would be interesting to know what is the most winning combination ever.
  • 3 0
 I would bet Hutchinson Toros or Griffus with Cecile and Isabeau dominating year after year on them (that is, after the retirement of Tracey and ACC). DHF/DHR gotta be right up there too (Richie, Jared, Jesse). Michelin (ACC, Sam, Jerome)

Other contenders I’d think are Mavic Swoop/Charge (Jerome, ACC). And Magic Mary/Hans Damf (Martin, Fabien).
  • 3 0
 Probably the Bonty's under TMO back in the day
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 @Trudeez: You're a nerd and I love it!
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 Nice overview. But could you include a list of which casings the riders use in different surroundings as well next time?
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 Exo+ casing sucks. Bought a new dhr2 and after 2 rides I had a huge cut in the sidewall.
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 "20 Different Tire Choices" of tires that are almost all the same.
  • 7 0
 Poor sponsored riders, can't even mix different brands front and rear.
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 Why does Michelin put such enormous yellow logos on their tires... Grey, subtile labels, as Schwalbe's ones, should be the norm by now.
  • 18 0
 I think it’s called marketing...
  • 8 1
 @enduroNZ: it's not efficient if people do not buy it.
  • 11 1
 Horses for courses I guess - I run 'normal' wild enduros but would prefer the yellow tyre marking!
  • 4 2
 Riders paying for advertising the products that they already paid for....... And Schwalbe's are a bit more subtle but, the fkng stupidest names ever. Can't wait for my signature tyre hit. The Narcissistic Nojzilla! Written as large as possible all over the tyre
  • 3 0
 Same reason you see moto riders with pink goggles and orange or yellow gloves. You know who got the holeshot. If thats not your jam , marksalot costs $2
  • 3 0
 If you hate them that much, you can always Sharpie them like all the riders paid to ride something else.
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 @TibZ: in poland it is problem to get them in normal stationary shop so it is impossible to touch them before buying.

Tbh it is the main problem with tires.

Manufacturers should give shops boards with cutouts of every tire they own (mainly thread, there is too much gum combinations) so consumer can check how they feel... it can be done from those tires that didn’t passed norm check. Im sure that part of those bad tires could do that.

Without that everybody is buying that what he had previously or his guys have.
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 @Kptzbik: hey that would be great!
  • 1 0
 I like this big logos. Would like to have same on my Wild AMs. Just looks cool. Small accurate Onza logos are good too as for me.
  • 1 0
 @nojzilla: I like the look as well. I was hoping that that the Michelin Crossclimate SUV tires I put on my wife's Subaru would've had that on there. The thought of a mom's car having fancy tire logos amuses me.
  • 1 1
 these are for prototypes/racers only.
the ones you buy have the typical white in black markings
  • 3 0
 Been running DHF front and Bontrager XR4 rear for a long time now...thinking of changing to Magic Mary front and DHR2 rear...good idea or not?...as it will cost about £120 at best.
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 That‘s what I run. Haven’t had any different front tires on my own bike so I might be lacking the comparison, but it’s been great. I prefer the DHR2 over the Hans Dampf in the rear, better braking traction and doesn’t wear out as fast.
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 @Upduro: thanks...rear tyre definitely needs replacing so think the DHR2 is a good option.
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 I feel like the DHF and MM are pretty drastically different in the way they perform in the wet (they’re both good in the dry and dusty). If you ride slick roots and rocks every day stay far far away from the MM, you will hate yourself. If you ride wet and gooey mud that doesn’t have the roots and the rocks then the MM would work great for you. I think the DHF is the more versatile tire, while the Assegai (which you didn’t mention) is all about grip, grip, grip. The best tires in my experience for roots and rocks are the Conti Der Baron and the Vittoria Mota (and have yet to try the Mazza in the wet but eager to do so). In my opinion your best bet for a versatile front is to stick with the DHF or try the Mazza (basically a slightly more evolved DHF). If you want all out grip in the front go for the Assegai.

For rears, I think you’d notice the DHR is gonna be tougher/burlier than the XR4, depending on the casing. Grip and rolling between those two probably wouldn’t be that much different. Braking I would give the nod to the DHR.
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 @Trudeez: I have the Mazza front (trail casing) and it's very consistent. Good over wet roots, but gets overwhelmed in proper mud. Not got the ultimate grip of a Wild Enduro. But that pings off wet roots in a slightly scary way. As an all round tyre I really rated the Bontrager SE4, which I think is the same tread pattern as the XR4, but in a proper casing. That's interesting info about the Mary in the wet. I'd been eyeing them up in ultra soft for a winter tyre, but I want confidence over the wet roots, and more mud capable than the Mazza
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 @Trudeez: Thanks for the details...exactly why I asked on here...as the rear needs replacing I will go for DHR2 as I’m definitely after a bit more braking performance. Interesting about the Magic Mary, UK winter so wet roots and mud the norm so I should probably stick with DHF.
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 @mountainsofsussex: I also really liked the SE4 with an SE5 on front. By far the best wet weather tires I’ve tried that aren’t full on mud tires are the Baron and the Mota. The MM for me was downright dangerous over the wet rocks and roots, it also does the pinging thing and slips and slides all over the shop, which was super disappointing because on proper wet soil minus the roots and rocks it was amazing, but the first root you skip off of your confidence is shot.
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 Thats my all year and every situation go to tire combintion. Its a shame maxxis doesnt offer the dd dhr2 in dual compound.....
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 @Trudeez: I ride the MM all year around and in the winter things get really muddy over here and there are lots of roots on the trails i ride. IMHO the DHF is the worst tire to have on your front wheel when you ride anything else than hardpack or rocks. It lacks braking traction and the blocks are to big to dig through mud and soft soil and have not enough space to get rid of the mud. I tested many tires (wild enduro, hans dampf, shorty, dhr2, dhf, butcher, hr2, dirty dan, Kaiser, Baron) but i always come back to MM when i need a tire that works in all conditions. The shorty is better in muddy conditions than the MM but its not as versatile. There will never be such thing as grip on slick roots. Its more about minimizing contact time, getting the right contact angle and avoiding hectic steering and breaking.
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 You would be trading rolling speed for grip. If that is what you want to achieve, go for it.
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 I found the magic mary to be far superior to the dhf, to my surprise honestly (long time maxxis fan). After a few very surprising spills with the dhf WT up front in the wet i swapped back to the magic mary and not looking back since. Its an amazing tire!
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 @Trudeez: i dont know which versions of the MM/dhf youre comparing- but my experience with the dhf in the wet was painful...
I feel the stickier addix compound on the MM is good in wet conditions.
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 I’ve run MM/DHR2 and it’s a decent all round set up, mm is a great uk winter front. Also have a look at WTB Vigalante/trail boss if you like your stickers to match up. Fantastic combo in everything but the worst slop
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 @PB-J: I don't know about anybody else's experiences, but I got very fed up with the trail boss side wall weeping and not really holding pressure. Aside from that, an ok tyre
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 @tommespommes: I agree you'll never have good grip on wet roots, but some tyres are worse than others. I suspect a softer side wall (so not a wild enduro), soft compound and sipes are the things that help
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 Michelin Wild Enduro front is similar yet superior to the MM. It doesn't squirm on hardpack (Magi-X), good for a wider range of conditions, even better in soft and mud. WE rear is more similar to an Aggressor, just far, far better all around except for rolling speed, it's not bad but a little slow. I think the DHR2 would have to be a MaxxGrip tire to compete with the WE rear, MaxxTerra center knobs are harder and not as grippy vs the Michelins. WE tires are also basically bomb-proof, very resistant to punctures, tears and pinch flats.
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 @Trudeez: Don't know if there is even a tire that doesn't slip on wet roots and rocks...
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 There's a lot of ignoring rubber compound in these comments. Magic Mary is awesome on roots in Ultra Soft, not so much in Soft. Same with all the Maxxis siblings DHF and Assegai - they're awesome on roots in MaxxGrip, not so much in Maxx Terra.

Want wet roots/rocks traction? Always run Ultra Soft, MaxxGrip, Black Chili or MoPo in front. Then pick your tread pattern for how firm, sloppy, or gooey or rocky your dirt is.
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 @Upduro: Are you talking about the older pattern HD? The newer one lasts a lot longer.
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 @cool3: no, the newer one. Side knobs started fraying pretty early
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 @davec113: IMHO the WE is a nice allround tire but it has its performance range more in dryer conditions. in thicker mud its not as competetive as the MM. I really like the magx rubber compound more than schwalbe soft. But the knob design of the MM makes it alot more versatile, especially for bad weather conditions. The MM performs on a pretty high level in all conditions. Yes there are much better tires for every sort of soil but these specialists are not as versatile. Im pretty lazy so I prefer a tire that performs really well in all conditions over switching tires.
  • 6 0
 Came for the IRC Kujo. I am disappoint.
  • 6 0
 Fresh MM up front, the old MM goes to the back. Done.
  • 6 0
 Where's the Thirsty Kirsty?
  • 2 0
 Will be released along with the Hungry Harry
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 No mention of the Aggressor? The new standard in Enduro tires. Rolls great but no traction for braking, first one I had, the tread bubbled off and Maxxis sent me a new one. I hate it just as much as the first one I had.
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 Richie Rude dominated on a DHF/Aggressor combo for quite a while, surprised it was not in the list. It's a fast rolling combo that lacks braking grip compared to others, so most of us mortals would have trouble with it on the steep and loose stuff.
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 I ride this combo DHF / Aggressor on my 29er “trail” bike and it’s great. On my enduro bike Magic Mary front instead of the DHF both combos seem to work well.
  • 2 0
 I love tires and all about it. Different tires make so big difference in riding the same bike. When considering to buy something I spend more time on researching info about tires then any other parts.
  • 3 0
 Those Goodyear tires last no time at all. Rode a set or Newtons for a 10 day trip to Quebec and was not impressed at how easily they shredded up.
  • 1 0
 Vittoria Goma is discontinued.
Shame, I've been running one in the rear this summer and is a really good tyre

Found the Mota for £23, if someone is interested

www.deporvillage.net/cover-vittoria-mota-g-tnt-anthracite-black?gclid=Cj0KCQiAnb79BRDgARIsAOVbhRpe4O_pH3lIw6cukXAVAg0KmFJ3o4D_9ErxfPWkmxiE7eMP4LVtnfoaAqntEALw_wcB
  • 1 0
 I was surprised to see the Goma since it's been gone for going on 2 years. I have my personal stash of the 2.4 version since it's one of the best all-around trail-class desert tires ever made. You need a wider rim for the front - 35mm does fine. The Mazza is an improved version. Haven't tried it yet.
  • 1 0
 I liked them when bew. The surface dual compound is too thin IMHO. Once it wears out you are left with the harder, base compound and it's an absolute nightmare over wet rocks and roots.
  • 1 0
 @JohanG: I thought the GOMA was a severely underrated tire. I had a set on my old Norco Sight and they worked great. I disagree with the article saying they aren't good on the front for cornering. Too bad they are discontinued.
  • 1 0
 They have the Mazza now as their endurdro tire, which ive been loving for the past 4 months
  • 6 1
 Pick a tire and be a dick about it.
  • 2 0
 This is an unusual caption under a pic of a 'Dampf on a Fox36
"The Magic Mary up front provides plenty of grip even when things get wet and the Hans Dampf keeps things rolling fast out back."
  • 3 0
 I switched to Ardent paired with either a Minion or Mary this is a fast combo also has better than expected rear grip for a small knobby rear
  • 1 0
 Not surprising to see all the comments as tires are a huge determinant of performance. Magic Mary-Rock Razor is an absolute fave. The Rock Razor is an underrated tire that has awesome hardpack and rock(obviously) performance and is also awesome in the roots. Rolling resistance is super low. And you can break it loose when you want. It Is diabolical In mud but you can’t have it all. Currently on the Vitorria Martello. This tire is awesome so far. Incredible grip and wayyy less rr than Minion/MM
  • 1 0
 Generally with most tires there is a 100% tradeoff betwen RR and braking traction. I would have to guess that the Martello has significantly less traction than whatever maxxis tire you're comparing too (DHF being very different from DHR)
  • 1 0
 I had so much hope I finally found a minion ss that had enough grip. This tyre amazed me for about 4 weeks then the knobs started to come off maybe 2 per tyre leaving a huge hole no sealant could seal. I used a stick in the jungle once with a group ride and it sealed the ,missing knob. That happened to 2 of them so I switched to Racing Raprh UST or Ardent UST versions not tubeless ready...... damb .... liked the razor so much......
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 No Dissector? I'm loving that on the rear, loads of grip and seems to work great in dry or wet. Aggressor awesome fast rolling rear for dry conditions. Been liking Good year Newton ST up front might try the Newton on rear at some point and Assegai up front.
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 Picking one as a life choice to stay with it would be HRII
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 HRII was my go to for a while. Seems like people have sorta forgotten about them.
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 @tbubier: I ran it front and rear for some time (DD casing), it's a good rear tyre IMO, good braking and good rolling resistance.
But as a front tyre I didn't like the sliding that happened when transitioning from center to side knobs.
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 @tbubier: Because the dhr2 outperforms it.
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 @rrolly: and the assegai is even better!! I Never trust the HR II on front, I've tried, I hated it!
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 @Clem-mk: I haven't tried the Assegai yet. It seems like a bit of a beast of a tire. I really like the dhr2 up front because it rolls well and the cornering is smooth and predictable vs the dhf which has a bit of an on-off feel as you corner it. You really need to lean the dhf over to get that bite. I think the Assegai is the same, no?
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 Actually, hauling 2 Assegai’s around all day sounds pretty fun to me.
  • 1 0
 Ibis specs them on the Ripmo
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 That's the kind of talk I'm here for.
  • 1 1
 Just make sure they aren't those paper EXO or EXO+ versions either, they will definitely puncture before you even leave the car park.
  • 1 0
 I am sorta tempted to just rotate a new Ass tire to the front, move the old to the rear, and repeat. DD though.
  • 1 1
 I really like the Schwalbe Eddy Current...Any combo...I've run the rear on the front and the front on the rear and the front on the front and the rear on the rear...Best tires I've been on in a while...but I'm still getting knobs ripping off at the casing.
  • 5 2
 Remember when riders not sponsored by Maxxis would sharpie out the "Maxxis" logo? Pepperidge farms remembers.
  • 2 0
 Wtb vigilante 2.5, light casing, high grip front and wtb judge 2.4, heavy casing high grip rear aaannnnddd forget about it and thank me later
  • 3 0
 Well rounded choices all around.
  • 5 0
 And gripping reading too.
  • 3 1
 Surprised no mention of the Specialized Hillbilly. Gobs of grip and great front tire.
  • 2 0
 Got myself two DH22 for that Welsh winter and I'm blown away and that's coming from two Marys.
  • 1 0
 That’s good to know as looking at the pics of the DH22 I thought looks like a more aggressive MM
  • 2 0
 Had to Google the Dirty Dan, thought they mistakenly used a picture of a soft terrain MX front.
  • 2 0
 Interesting that Aggressors aren't listed. They seem to be a very popular rear tire with enduro pros in 4-corners area.
  • 2 0
 It would be interesting to know how the e-bike tyres compare, I think Amaury Pierron’s DH bike was on them in the past.
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 If you’re fit, or don’t care about the weight, the Schwalbe Eddy Current ebike tires are fairly insane in their level of grip.
Pierron ran one out back I heard.
  • 1 0
 Of the DHR2 : "This could be because of the better cornering properties of an Assegai or DHF". When the DHF and DHR2 have literally the same side knobs.
  • 2 0
 Nobody running Maxxis DHF Front and Aggressor Rear?? This combo is popular hear in the southeast
  • 1 0
 everyone who tries my bike on wild enduros ends up swapping their dhf ii for it. better sidewalls and cheaper usually comes up
  • 2 1
 Bottom line came from maxxis pretty good...now I'm liking wtb vigilante f convict r...2.8 f...2.5 r bout 18-22 psi the shit 35 internal spanks...me..cheers
  • 2 0
 Came for a NOS Michelin Wild Gripper Sprint, all hard, cracked and glossy from age, left disappointed. SMH
  • 2 0
 Needed this before I brought two tyres this morning.
  • 3 1
 I'm suprised there is more than one schwalbe mention
  • 2 0
 Nobody rides MSC tires in the EWS?
  • 3 0
 A few do. Milan Mysik springs do mind from the Czech Republic. It’s just that nobody in North America knows about them so I doubt pinkBike bothered.
  • 2 0
 MSC seems really popular in Spain but here in the UK never see them for sale.
  • 1 0
 I still have nightmares about the time I ran Dirty Dan’s front and rear. Talk about hard going.
  • 1 0
 Its a shame there isnt an Agassi at 2.3 or 2.4 not WT as my rims are too narrow for the ones they do at the moment
  • 5 0
 No your rims are not too narrow. You can run WT tires on narrower rims. I ran WT 2.5” Maxxis tires on my 25mm WTB and Stans rims and they measured exactly the same as non WT 2.5” Maxxis tires. Don’t sweat it. Run that tire.
  • 1 0
 Dissector both ends for me. Or whatever dh casing tyre I can get cheap most of the time.
  • 2 0
 Side knobs will rip away long before the center tread even begins to wear. Diss em for Assegai and Dhr II or Aggressor
  • 1 0
 @likeittacky: I've run one up front with minion ss rear all year. No complaints at all and cover 100km + each week. Only replacing with a dhf next week because I was given it and I'll go back to the dissector for the rest summer if I miss it.
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 @Afterschoolsports: If you've been running SS in the back and like the drift and xc speed , you'll dig the Aggressor. It has better braking and comparable corning to the Dissector along with low rolling resistance and better tread life than the set up your on . Plus some drift when you want it.
  • 2 0
 i just pick the tire that looks best on me bike
  • 2 0
 The Pivot Firebird is such a good looking bike.
  • 1 0
 Looks like the brands can't come up with their own top tier tire threads.. copying maxis tires
  • 1 0
 I'd like connential der baron to be less stiff so it could absorb impacts better.
  • 1 0
 Glad to see a Shorty at the rear. The Internet has said that you should not do that. I did it anyway.
  • 1 0
 Anyone tried the Tioga Edge 22s? Was going to try them up front instead of DHFs to go with DHR IIs...
  • 1 0
 Have one waiting to go up front. Wanted to wear down my current tire the mazza a bit more but may just swap. Looks good in the shop! Weight is just under 1kg
  • 2 0
 @Jcmonty: Thanks. They've had great reviews both here and in other places. I know DHFs are supposed to be the business but I've never been convinced!
  • 1 0
 Definitely rode some of these. HRII/Ardent, HRII/HRII and DHF/DHRII.

They’re missing Assegai/Aggressor and DHF/DHF.
  • 1 0
 I had the Agressor/DHF as a combo for awhile. It worked great!
  • 1 0
 Mazzas or die. It's like the DHF, but with 20 years of development and better in every way...
  • 1 0
 Ardent? Those tires should be illegal, the most uncontrollable tyre maxxiss ever produced;
  • 1 1
 if i didnt look at the tire i dont think id be able to tell the difference between an xc tire and a mud tire. theyre tires its not really that complicated.
  • 1 0
 I was thinking to myself, If the Maxxis wetscream shows up on the list I was going to head out.
  • 1 0
 Wich best tire for wet roots?
  • 2 0
 Soft compound, siped knobs, with center and side knobs that are out of phase. Hans Dampf, Martello, Agarro, Assegai. The problem arises because with wet roots you usually get mud and these tires don't clear mud that well.
  • 3 0
 Continental Der Baron
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 Riders Skills
  • 1 0
 For me 2.8 DHF front and rear is best.
  • 1 0
 Uh oh here come the vigilant readers
  • 1 0
 I still prefer the DHF up front over the Assegai...
  • 1 0
 How about an article dedicated to mixed brand combos?
  • 1 0
 those are some sick shwalbes on lew buchanans bike
  • 1 0
 Look at those kids with their long travel xc bikes and Ardent tires.
  • 1 0
 I'm with Magic Mary Verstar DH F and DHRII R EXO - Great Combo
  • 1 1
 where. are. the. continentals!
  • 6 0
 Nobody cares.
  • 1 1
 Tioga Psycho 1.95 or GTFO.
  • 1 0
 Where's velociraptor?

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