RST R-One Fork
RST likely isn't a name that pops into your head when you're thinking about long-travel suspension, but the company, better known for their more-budget minded offerings, is looking to change that. We met up with RST's Mike Dunn, a man who has plenty of experience in the suspension biz, as well as being the mind behind their new R-One downhill fork, to see what they have been working on. The 200mm travel R-One is built around their existing single crown Storm platform, with longer 36mm stanchions that feature an internal taper to save grams, and an upper crown that is compatible with direct mount stems. RST has used a more conventional 20mm thru-axle that requires an 8mm hex key, although they have been able to avoid having to use pinch bolts due to the axle's reverse threading that is claimed to keep it from shifting. R-One owners will also be able to lower the travel to 180mm by fitting different travel spacers into the spring leg.
Internally, it employs a semi-open bath cartridge, inside of which you'll find a high-speed spring poppet valve that opens into a shim stack, as well as a more traditional low-speed needle valve to control fork dive under braking, with both being able to be adjusted externally at the top of the right leg. Low-speed rebound can also be tuned externally, and the high-speed circuit is controlled with a shim stack.
RST R-One Details
• Intended use: DH/FR
• Travel: 200mm (internally adjustable to 180mm)
• 36mm diameter stanchions
• External adjustments: separate low and high-speed compression, low-speed rebound
• Direct mount stem compatible
• 20mm thru-axle
• Post brake mount
• Prototype weight: 6.8lb
• MSRP $1100 USD
The R-One's top crown is compatible with direct mount stems (left). There are external adjustments for both low and high-speed compression damping, as well as a rebound adjuster at the bottom of the fork leg.
The 20mm thru-axle (left) turns into a reverse-threaded cap on the opposite side with an 8mm hex key. The R-One uses 36mm diameter stanchions (right).
RST Champ
Weighing in at 3.5lb with 15mm thru-axle lowers, the Champ is RST's lightweight trail fork. It features three travel settings - 80, 100, and 120mm - all of which can be attained on the same fork by swapping out travel spacers, and RST is also working on a slightly different chassis that would allow them to offer a 140mm travel Champ. A 650B model is in the works to compliment the current 26" and 29" Champ forks as well.
On top of the right leg you'll find a low-speed compression dial that can be turned completely forward to engage a 'soft lockout' that is very firm, but still allows for some movement and blowoff. An aluminum dial is used to adjust low-speed rebound at the bottom of the same leg.
RST Champ Details
• Intended use: XC/trail/all-mountain
• Travel: 80, 100, 120mm (internally adjustable)
• Air sprung
• External adjustments: air pressure, low-speed lockout, rebound
• 32mm diameter stanchions
• QR or 15mm thru-axle option
• 26", 29" wheel models (650B in the works)
• Post brake mount
• Weight: 3.5lb (15mm thru-axle model)
• MSRP $675 USD
www.rst.com
Leatt H4 Backpack
Lifted from their motorsports lineup, the H4 bag has been designed to not shift around on the rider's back, and specifically to not come up and hit the back of the helmet - an especially dangerous thing on a MX bike. Leatt claims that this is prevented by their cross-strap layout that positions the straps in an 'X' arrangement across the rider's chest. All four straps can be adjusted lengthwise via hook-and-loop fasteners, allowing the wearer to fine-tune the fit easily. Downhillers should also take note that it is also completely compatible with Leatt's neck braces, meaning that you can take some water and a few tools with you during runs - not something that enough riders currently do.
We're taking an H4 pack home with us from Crankworx and will be using it over the coming months, so stay tuned for a full test in the future.
Leatt H4 Details
• Intended use: XC/AM/DH
• Harness designed to interface with Leatt brace
• Cross-strap layout to minimize pack shifting
• Can be worn with Leatt upper body armour
• Five liters of storage space
• Include 2.5L bladder
• MSRP $109 USD
The H4's unique 'X' strap arrangement (left) is said to limit bag movement during riding. Five liters of storage space, as well as room for the bladder, means that you can carry tools and other trailside essentials.
www.leatt-brace.com
And chrome stanchions were cool 3 years ago...
I think $1100 is a complete waste of money if you look at the reputation what that company has,not an single RST product has been good in my opinion.
Also, that axle system is actually really quite good. It's on the Society/RST 4XR fork, and although it's not quick to use, it's easy and bullet proof.
Having said that, it is possible that they're making a turn around, but the way to do it is not to come into the market with something to compete with already established and well liked forks like Boxxers, 40s and 888s, but instead offer a very good value, cheaper alternative that would offer quality at a lower price. IMO this fork has no target market because nobody wants to spend that much money on a fork from a company with such a crappy reputation. Think of it this way, nobody would want to buy a $200,000 luxury car from daihatsu when they could get a Mercedes, Rolls Royce or Bentley for the same money.
Get some pro riders, make them use this on their bikes and meanwhile sell the product with 'minimal' profit in mind. That's the only way to earn people's trust at the moment.
Else, i wish them happy dreaming.
1. Is it cool?
2. Have I heard of it before?
3. Is it cool?
Yeah it is a lot of money...... I am not saying I would runout and buy one either. At least not without trying one out... But I welcome competition because to be honest I think forks could be BETTER and more affordable if there was some. So Suntour, X-Fusion, RST, whoever...... bring it on. And make GOOD forks, keep doing it and people will catch on.
And yes, getting the likes of Buehler, Doerfling and Tippie to ride your product gives it a lot of credibility, at least in Canada.
I'm psyched to see lots of suspension companies stepping up and finally bringing some competition. This will force all companies to up their game. How long before manitou double crowns are common again or we start seeing sun tour forks on serious bikes?
I'm all for giving a company another chance (look at Mazocchi or GT) but RST have always been shit, will always be shit, and should stick to the entry level sector as they always have done. This new fork could be as good as a BOS, but I'd still never spend my money on it. Call me irrational or emotional if you like, but that's my opinion, and it's as valid as anyone else's.
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i may be doing it wrong but who knows.....
RST - no, thanks.
Btw - just switched my '11 fox 40 to a Manitou Dorado Pro '12.. I know a lot of you wanna trash talk that too probably! - But then again, I would know youre not talking from experience. The Dorado is a KILLER!
So why the hell do they want $1100 for it?
Also it's way cheaper, then creating molds for lower castings.
Back in the 90´s I didn't like the RST´s either, and since then, I didn't even realize them still being around since I'm gravity orientated -- but I really welcome RST´s comeback to the higher end suspension market. Honestly, it can't be a bad thing for us!
I just love how new and old companies suddenly realize the potential of this growing market and want to jump on the train getting a part of it... this means innovation and price drop for us, and the chance to make one's ride even more individual.
I just think, they should have done it more like suntour... namely, getting some awesome and well known riders on board first, bring a decent piece of technology and sell it way beyond the amount the big names charge.
Changing an image isn't impossible, but it's definitely a piece of work. Good Look RST!
for a start,if RST manufactured a high end fork in the same factory that it builds it's lower end products in BUT re-marketed itself as a totally new company for it's higher end products,would it still receive this much NEGATIVE feedback ? i personally think NOT!!!
Ok RST don't have a reputation for producing great products but they do have the right and need to make a stand in a competative market to produce a product that they see as able to get on the podium and give their customer,and that's YOU,a wider choice.
All i read in a hell of a lot of these discussions is negative and totally none productive,so if RST were to name themselves differently and NOT tell their customer,AND THAT'S YOU,exactly how much difference would it make ?
i say good on RST for trying for ALL of US,i too would like to see PB's take on a possible good product.
I'd rather buy a fork from a brand that's built poor quality forks turning their hand at well made forks than the other way around like it seems RockShox is sort of doing. I don't like theidea of supporting any brand that makes perishable products for no need. As the buyers, I feel crap products and brands should be boycotted. Vote with your money people. I see no reason why today we shouldn't have forks that can be onsold for years, not just a season or two. I favor Marzocchi and Fox the most for durability at the moment(going by the current models).
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Super keen to see if the Latte pack doesn't push the brace about. I'd buy one for sure if it doesn't.
Sure they are more than worthy, might be like kona's rise in the industry, more competition is healthy thats for sure.
Where as i sink 1100 and it breaks in the first 2 weeks what do i do with it? And lets be fair, RST arent known for their reliability.
And btw this isnt ENTIRELY brand based. Dual step air from rockshox is also known to be aweful, hence people avoid that despite it being rockshox
Rockshox uses a full air spring, manitou and fox use positive airs and negative springs/hybrids. preload is therefore higher at higher pressures, quite possibly worse than the stiction created by the tiny rubber seal on the air rod. Why manitou uses full air only on the dorado, I have no clue. Why the dorado has position and velocity sensitive damping, and their other forks do not, I have no clue. Why a Fox 40 has 3 external adjustments and the R2C2 has 4 for damping and is cheaper, I have no clue. Rockshox is clearly more for your money. Even the moto world thinks marzocchi is better than fox. Why do we all flock to fox as a benchmark?
Probably nothing wrong with the RST, but even if it does much better than expected and is par with the comp, I am still looking at something less than the rockshox model in performance... For the same asking price too. It isn't good competition. I hope it dies a harsh death. I hope something like DVO or suntour does much better.
"Internally, it employs a semi-open bath cartridge, inside of which you'll find a high-speed spring poppet valve that opens into a shim stack, as well as a more traditional low-speed needle valve to control fork dive under braking, with both being able to be adjusted externally at the top of the right leg. Low-speed rebound can also be tuned externally, and the high-speed circuit is controlled with a shim stack. " 6,8 pounds - 1100$
Im curious to try it...
For example I have Avalanche cartridge unit in my 888 rc2x fork and it performs awesome and have almost the same technology inside, but this baby here looks solid and durable i ll be glad to see them in WC, along with some other brands like DVO.
I'm pretty sure the last RST R One is just cost about USD200. no joking.
USD1100 for that fork? meh.
I decode the shortcut RST = Soviet totalitarian equipment
after having a new rst I bought five year old 888rc and I'm perfectly happy about it
Kids have had cheap ones on their schoolbikes and got trashed tremendously without breakage. One still in use on a dj-bike.
So for many kids RST is a good starting point although less than mediocre quality will not translate into brand recognition. They want RS or Fox.
and this version of the PCT, for people with a small budget)))I am glad that there are firms that are accessible to all) thanks for reading)
Suntour make excellent forks as do X Fusion... RST doesnt think they are going to come out of the gate with the best fork, but in 5 or ten years if they decide they want to do it, they will provide a lot of competition- they will raise the overall quality of the forks out there and lower the prices... just like Suntour and X Fusion have done already with the Durolux and Vengeance...
of course a $40 OEM fork is not going to work right... so you cant judge their ability to evolve based on their incredible success in the low end of the market- same as Suntour... who clearly can provide world championship winning suspension of the highest quality to the market at much better prices.
• Intended use: DH/FR
• Travel: 200mm (internally adjustable to 180mm)
• 36mm diameter stanchions
• External adjustments: separate low and high-speed compression, low-speed rebound
• Direct mount stem compatible
• 20mm thru-axle
• Post brake mount
• Prototype weight: 6.8lb
• MSRP $1100 USD
this is a joke? isn't it? this can't be serious.. rst is in my eyes a low budget company with cheap suspension products and not a established high end company.. oh man
the only way i see this fork ever becoming popular is if a top pro rides it and beats the shit out of it.
they need to change their wallmart reputation first!
Just look at what Suntour did! They were always fairly popular in Europe, but no-one in the UK or America/Canada would touch em with a barge-pole. They re-invented themselves and are now up there with Rockshox/Marzocchi. They still do their low end rubbish, but their top stuff is actually really good. The prices are around the same as RS, but they cost just as much to make so it kinda makes sense.
Moral of the story: Don't judge a book by its cover! get it tested PB!
You should take less notice of what shit you read dude.