Salsa has launched an overhaul of its full suspension bike line up today with three new models - the Spearfish, the Horsethief and the Rustler. Salsa's new range comes revamped with shorter chainstays, more travel, refined geometry and dropper posts on all models. They have also tuned the Split Pivot suspension system’s leverage rate to offer a more progressive ramp feel in the final third of the stroke. Frame designs will cover the XC to trail spectrum, including the first bike to be officially labeled as Downcountry. (please, nobody tell Levy.) As the bikes all share a similar shape and DNA, here's what you're looking at across the range.
Split Pivot Updates: Salsa claims their revised leverage rate offers more progression and improved bottom out performance, increasing confidence and control on big hits and giving the travel a deeper feel. The beginning and mid-stroke remain relatively unchanged. A slightly lower overall rate yields lower shock pressures for easier initial setup. The Split Pivot suspension will now be driving metric shocks, and there is also a flip chip that adjusts the bottom bracket height and head angle.
Salsa have also revised the anti-squat which is claimed to offer better pedaling performance in tandem with the new 1x-specific design optimized for a 32-tooth chainring. The result is more efficient pedaling without over-damping the shock (which hinders small bump compliance) or using a lockout.
Shared frame features: Salsa have switched up their carbon manufacturing for these bikes, using pre-molded EPS foam mandrels. They claim, "EPS construction allows for greater manufacturing control, smooth surfacing, a simplified bottom bracket junction, and an integrated shock mount." The carbon bikes all have aluminium stays and sleeved internal cable routing. Aluminium frames are also available and share the tube-routed internal housing feature.
Spearfish - Progressive XC The Spearfish is the shortest travel bike in the range. It's a 100mm travel 29er with efficiency in mind. It comes paired with a 120mm fork, which has led to Salsa officially calling this a 'Downcountry' bike.
- 100mm rear travel
- 120mm front travel
- 29 x 2.3" tire spec
- Fits 27.5 x 2.8–3.0" and 29 x 2.1–2.6"
- Super Boost 157mm rear spacing standard
- Fits two 24 oz water bottles inside frame triangle
- Available sizes: S/M/L/XL.
-Prices: $2,399 - $5,199
Horsethief - All-round trail bike The Horsethief is another 29er but this time it's 120mm travel is designed to be mated with a 140mm fork for trail thrills.
- 120mm rear travel
- 140mm front travel
- 29 x 2.5" tire spec
- Fits 27.5 x 2.8–3.0" and 29 x 2.1–2.6"
- Super Boost 157mm rear spacing standard
- Fits two 24 oz water bottles inside frame triangle
- Available sizes: S/M/L/XL.
-Prices: $2,399 - $5,199
Rustler - Playful trail bike The longest travel bike in the range, the Rustler is a 130/150mm trail bike with "popping off rocks and roots, sending drops, boosting doubles, railing berms" in mind.
- 130mm rear travel
- 150mm front travel
- 27.5 x 2.6" tire spec
- Fits 27.5 x 2.3–2.8"
- Boost 148mm rear spacing standard
- Fits one water bottle inside frame triangle
- Available sizes: XS/S/M/L/XL
-Prices: $4,199 - $5,199
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a post by endurocat:
www.pinkbike.com/photo/12423720
i.imgur.com/VAeA885.jpg
*not a criticism*
Not every bike, especially a 100mm XC bike needs 1300 wheelbase and 500+mm reach. I think @mgolder is right. These may not sell to the endure crowd, but a lot of people will be happy riding them.
My local bike shop sells salsa and surly.
I asked the mechanic whats the point of a 35lb hardtail and the response was "surly don't care".
Fair enough.
Yeah makes no sense.
I hate both, narrow bars and drop bars.
My back starts aching just looking at them and they are ugly.
No thanks.
It just makes sense because for longer rides, you have more options for your hands and you can haul more stuff on the bars...
The fargo is compatible 27+ or 29'' so you can easily fit whatever you want and ride over whatever terrain... There's not just downhill and enduro in life.
Try holding your hands straight down beside your waist. Do your hands face pinky out, or do they face at some angle or even pinky towards your backside? The natural ergonomic position for your hands is not horizontal in front of you. The natural position is somewhere between thumbs up and a 45 degree angle. Thus riding in the hoods or the drops of road bars is a much more natural riding position. I can ride for hours on road bars with no hand discomfort or numbness. On wide mountain bars I get numbness very quickly especially if I'm riding rough terrain or pushing aerobically.
Also your take on aerodynamics only mattering above 20km/h is just not based in any fact. Aerodynamic drag is essentially a constant. At low speed aerodynamics isn't the main cause of drag, rolling resistance is. That doesn't mean aerodynamic drag doesn't exist, it just means it's not the highest thing you have to overcome.
Your take on drop bars giving crap pedaling position is also...........well crap! I can put out more watts on a crank based power meter on a road bike than a mountain bike for longer periods of time. If you think that pedaling efficiency is lost with drop bars you need to get a bike fit.
Road bikes handle great.............on the road!
Meaning that at low speeds the drag is still there and makes large portions of a bikes total drag at almost any speed. Sheldon Brown implies that aero drag equals rolling resistance drag at 12kmh or 7.5mph. But a 10% gain in aerodynamics at 12mph is still a 10% gain at 30mph.
All I'm saying about aerodynamics is that they matter just as much on mountain bikes as on road bikes. There is a reason xc riders ride in road kits and are even riding skin suits nowadays.
Aerodynamic drag is constant only in space, hence less of an issue at lower speeds on Earth (read those achievable by road bikes) it is not that hard to grasp, but I don’t want to discriminate you in case you can’t.
flats give better stability/maneuverability, a more comfortable position for your back and better positioning for brake levers.
I just ride "bikes"
What I don’t get is the price. As QBP’s own brand, these should be much more affordable.
If these bikes don't make sense to you and/or you simply feel the need to poke fun at Salsa, you're clearly not their target customer.
Just like I don't want the longest, slackest and lowest endur-bro machine, there's many, many people who are loyal and excited by what this and other like-minded brands produce.
Take a breath and gain some perspective.
I'm 6'4" with long legs. The sizes that Salsa produces fit people like me, but not everyone. I just don't think the trend of shortening seat-tubes and offsetting them with longer dropper posts is ideal in all cases.
I didn't say i didn't like it. It actually looks better on welded or carbon frames than lugged bikes. It does remind me of this though...
www.steel-vintage.com/paletti-el-os-classic-italian-road-bike-1990-detail
Give me a new Bucksaw, give me a Full-Stache competitor, make a XC bikepacking race 29er based on leaf springs with a thudbuster and lauf fork!
Make Salsa Bikes Weird Again!
Big geo changes for Salsa equals mediocre geo changes for the rest of the world. Salsa is reaching for some market share, they need to succeed or it may be a last gasp; the tooling for carbon doesn’t come cheap.
Best wishes to Salsa.
Test ride stumpy St and felt like I was trying to slide back further on the seat to get comfortable...
YES. Salsa bikes NEED (flip) "chips".
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/salsa-rustler-2019
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/salsa-spearfish-2019
geometrygeeks.bike/bike/salsa-horsethief-2019
-anyone have gag reflex when seeing someone brake with their middle finger?
He already has an original SF but wants a Pony tho realising it is a HT he needs lol
It looks way slacker.
#paralisysByAnal
Same numbers, identical main frame. top tube shock mount spitting image of the thunderbolt.