Schwalbe Announces 5 New Tire Casings & 2 New Tread Patterns

Aug 6, 2020
by Mike Kazimer  
Schwalbe's New Big Betty.


Picking the right mountain bike tire seems like it should be a simple process, that is until you're faced with an overwhelming number of options, many with alphabet soup acronyms and names that don't seem to have any relevance to the product at hand.

Schwalbe have been working to change that, a process that began a few years ago with the introduction of their Addix rubber compounds. The names for those compounds were relatively self-explanatory – Soft, UltraSoft, and SpeedGrip, and a colored stripe down the center of the tire made it easy differentiate one compound from another.

For 2021, Schwalbe is continuing their quest for simplification with five new 'Super' carcass options: Super Race, Super Ground, Super Trail, Super Gravity, and Super Downhill. Riders can start by choosing the carcass that fits their terrain and intentions – the thinner and lighter Race and Ground options are aimed at cross-country riders, while the Trail, Gravity, and Downhill casings are heavier duty, designed for riders who need more sidewall support and increased protection against flats.

In some cases, the tires have gained a few grams compared to previous versions, but Schwalbe's intention with the extra reinforcement was to allow riders to run the tires without needing to use any inserts, an interesting change of course from the company that brought Procore to the market back in 2014.

Along with the new casings, Schwalbe also have an updated Nobby Nic on the way, along with a new version of the Big Betty that's aimed at the enduro / DH crowd.


A Quintet of 'Super' Casings


Super Downhill: The burliest option in the lineup, this casing has six carcass layers, two layers of Apex puncture protection at the sidewall, plus Snakeskin fabric for even more puncture protection. It's also tubeless ready with a Kevlar bead.

Designed for DH and enduro use, the Super Gravity casing has four carcass layers, one layer of Apex sidewall protection, and a bead-to-bead Snakeskin fabric layer
Super Trail is aimed at trail and enduro riders, and uses three carcass layers under the tread, and two on the sidewalls. There's also one layer of Apex sidewall protection, and a bead-to-bead Snakeskin fabric layer

The Super Ground casing has three carcass layers and a Snakeskin fabric layer.
The Super Race casing has two carcass layers, with a strip of Raceguard puncture protection under the center of the tread.




Nobby Nic V3

The Nobby Nic is Schwalbe's all-rounder, a tire that's designed to work for everything from cross-country to all-mountain riding. For the third generation of the tire Schwalbe added more support to the side knobs, and altered the center knob pattern to allow for better mud shedding in wet conditions.

The Nobby Nic is available with a Super Ground or Super Trail casing, with Addix Soft or Speedgrip rubber. 27.5” options are available in 2.25, 2.35, 2.6, and 2.8” widths, while 29” versions come in 2.25, 2.35, and 2.6” widths. There are even two 26” models, in either 2.25” or 2.35” widths. The actual weight for a 29 x 2.35 Super Trail model is 1100 grams. MSRP: 59.90 – 69.40 Euro



Big Betty

Big Betty is back in the lineup, returning as an aggressive option that works well as a rear tire when paired with a Magic Mary up front. Rectangular center knobs are designed to dig in for braking traction, and the stout side knobs are meant to provide support during hard cornering.

The Big Betty is available with a Super Trail, Super Gravity, or Super Downhill casing, with either Addix Soft or Ultra Soft rubber compound. 26” models come in a 2.4” width, while 27.5” and 29” versions are available in 2.4 or 2.6” widths. The actual weight for a 29 x 2.4” Super Gravity version is 1363 grams. MSRP: 59.90 – 67.90 Euro.



More information: schwalbetires.com


235 Comments

  • 235 1
 It's a good start, but they're missing a lot of options I'd need:

- Super Pumped for the pumptrack
- Super Steeze and Super Case for the front/back of my dirt jumper - preferably accepts helium for extra height
- Super Pub for post ride - this would need a self-righting carcass shape
- Super Soaked for wet conditions
  • 9 0
 & super urban for road/greenways strewn with all kinds of stuff determined to puncture your tyres. preferably 650x47C
  • 114 1
 Super Sucks for my average riding.
  • 57 3
 Super TRD for everyone's Tacomas
  • 39 7
 I'll settle for a super side-knobs don't disintegrate...
  • 4 0
 I need some Super Pubs!
  • 3 5
 @NorthEasternDownhiller: superbrohole is what you're looking for to match the taco.
  • 5 0
 Looks like they brought their prices down
  • 5 0
 I was hoping for Super Smart Sam.
  • 7 0
 Where is the Super Expensive $ ?
  • 1 0
 @scottlink: that's super!
  • 1 0
 Super Stoked would be for anyone who wants to wiggle their thumb and pinky
  • 7 1
 And how could I forget:

- Le Super Sharp Shooter - for sniper lines and the jungle
  • 2 0
 @Tasso75:actually supersucks is a great ride
  • 12 4
 Super Dumb Donald
  • 4 0
 @Woody25: wish i could upvote this more, bigup
  • 5 0
 @Woody25:
The S.... the U.... the P, the E the R... the jungle is indeed massive
  • 1 0
 @Small-Tales-Epic-Trails: cranking that up right now!
  • 1 0
 @Woody25:
Why did the tiger get lost in the jungle?
  • 37 0
 Why no beefy casing for Nobby Nic?? It was my best combo ever with a MM up front: fast, easy to break loose yet always manageable, just pure fun. What wasn't fun was my ability to puncture the tire just by giving it a hard look... In Belgium!
  • 4 0
 Sounds like SuperTrail is bumped up from the previous incarnation, but yeah a Supergravity NIC would make a lot of sense, maybe too much crossover with Hans Dampf though.
  • 21 0
 @kiksy: I'd say this new nic looks like it'll probably outperform the HD anyway, and if the claimed weight of 1100g for super trail is accurate, that's old super-gravity weight so this new nic is wayyy beefier than the old snakeskin nic... should be a great combo with MM in front. Kinda disappointed that there are no addix soft options in super ground casing. A soft nic in light casing looks like it'd be good front tire for a fast downcountry bike in soft conditions. The old snakeskin Mary soft was a great ~900 gram front tire.
  • 4 0
 @thegoodflow: yeah the old 29" 2.35 HD snakeskin is claimed 850g and NN 29" 2.35" 765 g, so the new casing is much thicker. This is a great descion in my opinion. As stated in the article, should reduce the need for inserts, and I'd be happy to take the weight hit as I prefer the way thicker sidewalls ride anyway.
  • 1 0
 @kiksy: yeah it sounds good in that way. i really love the NN at the rear, super compromise fast rolling an grip, it doesn't fear wet condition either. A bit more weight for protection is welcome!
  • 1 0
 @kiksy: I feel the too round profile of the HD.. the BB looks promisnig.
everybody has their own particular wishlist. for me a 2.25 MM soft Supergravity would have been fantastic. less volume, lighter (as less material), burlier tire for the rear..
  • 1 0
 Just use the e-bike version. It's tough, it's cheap and it's not that heavy at 930 grams.
  • 3 0
 I switched from the NN to the Hans Dampf in the rear with MM upfront. The Hans Dampf is more durable than the NN but still has great traction and feel.
  • 2 0
 @thegoodflow: With you in wishing for SuperGround with Addix Soft compound. Riding in the PNWet I always favor soft rubber, and Addix Soft/Snakeskin combo at ~850g is great on DC and light trail bikes.

Similarly, I’d love it of Maxxis would put MaxxGrip rubber on EXO/EXO+ casings...
  • 2 1
 @merlin33: my bike came with a magic mary/hans dampf combo. Absolutely loving it and it's been very durable so far. In 2017 had a cheap hardtail with Tough Tom tires, not great or very durable lol. Schwalbe has definitely upped their game.
  • 2 0
 @Drew-O: Maxxis has MaxxGrip rubber with Exo casing, I have an DHR2 Exo MaxxGrip on front. Love this tire.
  • 27 0
 It's really annoying that soft compounds are paired with tough casings. I get it maybe works for riding in the Alps and BC were you want sticky rubber in loam and roots, I want tough casing and tough rubber for desert/4 corners riding where it's all rocks and gravel. I shouldn't have to pick between a casing that gets punctured or tread that wears out in a few weeks.
  • 10 6
 Even in rocky terrain I’d still rather have all the grip I could get
  • 34 3
 @madmax245: ride a lot of desert terrain there in the UK?
  • 31 0
 Conversely, I’d like to see more sticky rubber options on the light casings. I don’t want to pedal around a 1300 g front tire in the winter.
  • 8 0
 agreed. soft rubber on a heavy casing tire in dry sharp rocks lasts for about 2 rides here...
  • 8 0
 @DMal: yeah good point. You want sticky rubber and compliant casing when it's wet and speeds are slower, meanwhile in the summer when it's dry and fast you want both heavy duty casing and harder rubber. It's the opposite of the options given.
  • 2 1
 IMO, schwalbe tires aren't mean for southwest riding. And the grippier tires with tougher casing is essentially a function of people wanting tougher and grippier tires in more extreme/steep terrain. But you're right, soft tires do wear out quick in the desert. I've found the specialized blck dmnd tires don't get eaten up too quickly and yet still have good traction.
  • 2 0
 @foggnm: Disagree. For SW riding the Hans Dampf is amazing. Both iterations with the newer one lasting longer. Soft of course but I'm sure speedgrip would be fine in the rear. i just want traction on sandstone and granite and the Dampf delivers
  • 6 0
 @laksboy: I was shocked when I rode in the southwest for the first time. I normally run soft compound DHF and DHRs up here in Minnesota. I put a new set on for a trip to Sedona and they had more wear after a week than I'd normally get after a whole season.
  • 1 0
 @DMal: +1 on this. Riding XC/light trail bikes in the PNW calls for light tires with soft rubber for wet grip. The old Snakeskin/Addix Soft was a great combo for this IMHO, bummer there’s no soft rubber or aggressive tread options in Super Ground.
  • 2 0
 @BlackVR: Horse's for courses. True for bikes, tires, inserts, brakes, suspension design, and a bunch of other things Pinkbikers like to argue about..
  • 7 0
 What if they start selling casings and treads separately with zippers attached so you can just zip together the tire you want!?!?
  • 3 0
 @madmax245: Longevity is more important than ultimate grip for a lot of riders that ride in very dry and rocky conditions.
  • 1 0
 @dthomp325: How tough do you want to go? Addix Blue or Red? And on the Downhill or Gravity casing?

Genuinely interested. I plan on doing a few desert country rides and hadn't actually thought of this before!
  • 2 1
 @DMal: How soft and light? Addix Orange on the Trail casing for the MM is pretty much the same as the former Orange/Snakeskin version isn't it?

Are you wanting Purple on a "Ground" or Race casing? Or is it a different tread pattern?

Again, genuinely interested.
  • 2 0
 Correct! I want a lighter tire with the softer rubber at the front, and a stouter tire with harder rubber for durability and rolling speed at the rear, and neither of these options are generally being made available by tire brands. Only WTB has some not-so-soft rubber with strong casing options.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: Maxxis has the Aggressor in DD casing with the harder dual compound. If you look long enough you will also find a DHR or DHF in Exo casing with Maxxgrip rubber.
But i agree, it would be nice to have more options along those lines.
  • 2 0
 @Ktron: DD/Supergravity is fine for me, as long as the rear is a dual ply. I've tried to get away with lighter 800-900gram single ply for putting in miles, and it just doesn't work for me.

I usually buy whatever the hardest compound available is for the rear. On Maxxis that'd be either "DC" or "Maxterra" for their trail and gravity tires.

I'm currently running e13 tires with a "race" compound in the front and a "plus" compound in the back. I have the SS LG1DH, which is a similar to a DD casing (high tpi dual ply).
  • 2 0
 @Ktron: I actually haven’t been on a Schwalbe tire in years but seems like Addix purple is similar to Maxxis MaxxGrip. If that’s the case, something around ~1000 g with the softest rubber compound is the ticket for a front tire for general trail riding around here (Coastal BC), so something like the Super Ground or maybe Super Trail with purple would be nice. There are few options on the market in that category. I know in Maxxis, there is a solid difference between MaxxTerra and MaxxGrip compounds, and once you have experienced MaxxGrip, it is hard to go back to the harder rubber.
  • 1 0
 @Ttimer: Yes, I've had an Aggressor in DD, and I also had a EXO DHR in Maxxgrip that came with a used bike and which I used at the front, but I have no idea how the guy got that tire. I now have a WTB Trail Boss that's though enough, maybe a bit too heavy, rolls fine (fast rolling version) and grips about the same as the Aggressor.
  • 1 0
 @Ttimer: But if we look at Maxxis' DD options in MaxxTerra, in 29" there's only the High Roller basically. Which isn't a bad tire, but there's no 2.4". There's a 2.3" DHR, which isn't great for wider rims, and that's it. All the other DD's come in Maxxgrip. And Exo with Maxxgrip is an unicorn.
  • 1 0
 @Sycip69er: Agree to disagree.
  • 1 0
 100% agreed. Maxxis Aggressor dual compound w/ Double Down casing is the closest I’ve found to the perfect rear tire for the 4 corners area. Slice a sidewall probably once per year, which is a fine trade off I guess. If maxxis ever offer the DH casing dissector in the dual compound rubber then I could see that being my perfect tire tho. A girl can dream.
  • 1 0
 @bigbrett: Spez Eliminator blck dmnd for southwest riding. I've used it trail, and lots of park time. Probably the best, most predictable rear tire I've ever used in the desert. Big puncture on one at Angel fire that required a patch, but other than that, no flats. I pair it with an Assegai up front.
  • 21 1
 I love Schwalbe's treads and compounds, but I've been finding myself switching to other options because Schwalbe limits their options. The only fast rolling rear tire in their lineup that offers both sidewall protection (super trail or higher) and faster rolling (speedgrip) is the rock razor. Why can't that be an option for the Rocket Ron or new Big Betty. On the flipside, none of their aggressive tread patterns are available in "super ground" (formerly snakeskin). What if you are a lighter rider that doesn't destroy front tires but still wants something with bite.
Give us the options, Schwalbe!
  • 7 0
 I agree. The lack of any kind of tyre with fast rolling rubber and super gravity casing is annoying. At least there seems to be a Hans Dampf in Super Trail with speedgrip rubber now. This seems to be a blind spot for many tyre companies. Maxxis doesn't offer much in dual compound and DD casing either.
  • 3 1
 give it a try to the bontrager ones.
I use a XR5 up front, since I am not that heavy with tires either, haven't had any problem with punctures.
you can always go SE5 or G5 in case you feel XR doesn't protect enough.
XR5 front SE4 back is my go to choice at the moment for trail.
XC I use XR4 front XR3 (the new one) back.
DH both G5.
  • 4 0
 Yeah, the lightest Big Betty or Magic Mary 29er in the new lineup is 1200g! I’ve been enjoying a Snakeskin Mary in 29x2.35 at ~850g on my short-travel bike. Shame to lose the “light but bite” options.
  • 1 0
 Ah... Rock Razor, the only tyre I've punctured last decade (landed on a nail) just got 2x of the last light version 26 models from my store, I'm safe for now on hardpack.
But a couple of days ago I went to my basement to check my old tyres, looking for a good rear tracker and picked up Big Betty from 2012, some 65% good and was kind of surprized how thin they were.
Wished for a new 26 addix model and look at that...
Thanks Schwalbe.
  • 15 0
 Why shwable don't continue the MM in light cassing : super ground (or SnakeSkin in the past). There isn't front tire option for long journey or light rider, it weight 150g more and the added protection is useless. The HD Snakeskin is remplaced by the new NN, it's could be a more durable tire than HD and soft compond, why not..
  • 1 0
 Man, I have not noticed that!
I've only checked that they won't make Betty light.
Well gotta send them an @-mail, this is very important for me.
Thanks.
  • 1 0
 @font style="vertical-align: inherit;">font style="vertical-align: inherit;">8088yl0n /font>/font>:
I plan to do the same.
  • 16 0
 Both well above 1000 gs for trail spec tires... that’s pretty hefty. And it’s rotational weight so you’ll actually notice a 200 gram difference.
  • 10 4
 I’d rather have that than punctures every few weeks
  • 5 11
flag bridgermurray (Aug 6, 2020 at 7:52) (Below Threshold)
 @madmax245: Sure but Minions with Maxxis’s equivalent compound/casing are below 1000 gs for 2.5s...
  • 13 1
 @bridgermurray: if its lighter it is probably not equivalent. Difficult to judge though, because punctures cannot really be tested methodically on real-world riding
  • 2 1
 @bridgermurray: like daweil says below it’s probably not equivalent. Plus I’ve ruined many a maxxis tyre and the only reason I’ve had to replace a shcwalbe is because they have Got too worn
  • 2 0
 @daweil: sure the compounds they use probably aren’t exactly equivalent, but then there’s a discrepancy in what each manufacturer deems a trail-spec tire.
  • 1 0
 @madmax245: So much this... I replace my Schwalbe's because the tread disappears and I replace my other tires for random "bad luck" reasons.
  • 17 4
 Maybe it's just me, but I find there is no other aspect of MTB which has such as knowledge and exprience "hurdle" to overcome as tires if you want to switch brands. .... I have my Maaxterra 3C TR Exo+ etc etc... It works fine and I have no desire to spend the time needed to understand Schwlabe's naming and acronyms so I know what's what.
  • 3 0
 All I want to know is are they cheaper and can I see them in person before dropping coin on them?
  • 2 1
 @blowmyfuse:

All I want to know is are they cheaper and can I see them in person before dropping coin on them?

You are pretty much the typical buyer. it comes down to price point and availability for most buyers.

Schwalbe just does not have the shop presence that other brands do. it is a premium tire and most buyers don't want to spend the premium $$
  • 4 0
 @Sycip69er: Schwalbe is certainly not a premium tyre brand. It's just a euro brand and I guess it gets high import taxes.
Here it's as cheap as maxxis and you find it in all the shops (unlike maxxis)
Regarding the stupid naming, I agree it's always a pain to try to understand which tyre/casing combinations from different brands are equivalent.
  • 1 0
 @zede: putting hands on a tire in person is my #1 requirement. I can't get hands on Michelin, Schwalbe, WTB, Continental, IRC, Hutchinson, etc.

I live 1 state away from Maxxis HQ so their stuff is on the shelves here right next to Specialized so I can make that decision easy.
  • 13 0
 Did they get rid of the Magic Mary Snakeskin TL Easy lines? That is one of my favorite tires. They are wide and have large volume, but it quite light at 885 grams (29" 2.35) and 835 grams (27.5 2.35). Perfect for a lighter trail or enduro bike.
  • 6 0
 This. Soft compounds on single-ply tires make sense for a lot of people, in the same way as hard compounds on ultra-burly casings do for others.
  • 7 0
 @Verbl-Kint: Others, or the same people, who want the hard compound with burly casing at the rear and the soft compound with single ply casing at the front.
  • 3 0
 The lightest available casing is the Trail casing now. This sucks. Since the nobby nic is already at 1100g in the trail casing we are probably looking at 1150-1200g which is pretty much a dh tyre weight. I still have a snake skin magic mary, but it start to wear out.
  • 12 0
 Back in 2010 (maybe the last year 26" were prominent??), there were 26" wheeled mtbs that cost thousands of pounds. Expensive bikes presumably don't get thrown onto the 'scrapheap' that easily, so surely they still need tyres?! With that in mind, BRAVO to Schwalbe, for continuing with 26"!! (my Trek Elite 9.8 XC hardtail loves you for it!)
  • 4 0
 More like 2013-2014
  • 2 0
 I’m on a 2015 Devinci Dixon. One of the last great 26”ers. I may give Schwalbe another go as I can no longer find WTB TCS Vigilantes.
  • 14 4
 I sure hope schwalbe adds 2.4 widths for their other patterns like magic Mary etc. I found their pre-addix tires the perfect width. The 2.35 addix tire are a little skinny and 2.6 too burly. I can’t understand the logic behind that. Most (gravity) people are riding 2.4-2.5.
  • 18 0
 Pre addix was really perfect, 2.35 was something like 2.4 2.5
  • 13 0
 @Noeserd: addix snakeskin MM 2.35 measures 2.5" on i30 rims.
  • 34 1
 My Magic Mary 2.35 Addix mounts up to exact same casing width as my Minion DHF 2.5. Don't confuse nominal with actual widths.
  • 15 1
 Schwalbe's 2.35's actually measure up wider than a 2.5 Maxxis when inflated. Every company has a different way of measuring width so there isn't a lot of consistency between width numbers.
  • 13 1
 @ranchitup: Set of Mary 2.35s currently mounted on my 35mm int rims: one is 2.48", the other is 2.52. My last several Maxxis DH 2.5s have likewise measured an average of 2.5" on those rims. Production tolerances, rim width, & break-in will add minor variances, but 2.5 = 2.5. It would be great for consumers if the industry would just settle on a single standard for measurement, but bike companies seem to take perverse pleasure in making sure there is not a single component on the market that conforms to a single standard...
  • 12 0
 @ranchitup: I like maxxis tires but I’m not sure they’ve used calipers ever. Prob just use a tape measure or eyeball it.
  • 4 0
 The new Mary is now labeled as 2.4, not 2.35:

www.schwalbe.com/en/mtb-reader/magic-mary
  • 1 0
 @thegoodflow: oh thats cool
  • 1 0
 @Veloscente: I have a DHF WT on my other bike on 30 ID rims. They sure look wider. Could that be because the sideknobs are pointing to the side? iow the pattern is wider?
  • 22 0
 I know, those missing 0.635 millimetres per side made my riding so sketchy... On 2.4" I'll be back in the game! Smile
  • 8 2
 Always look at the ETRTO sizing - it's in millimetres and never lies unlike the imperialist inches. Example:
Magic Mary 29 x 2.40 has ETRTO 62-622
DHF 29X2.50WT has ETRTO 63-622
  • 4 1
 @thegoodflow: @Veloscente:
Assume your talking about Snakeskin? Super gravity blow up small (like 2.2" to 2.3"). Hoping 2.4" SG and ST casings are more true to size
  • 1 0
 @sambobcat: True. I was using snakeskin MM 2.35 and they were close to 60mm (sideknobs) on 23mm rims. Now supergravity casing on 35mm rims still measures 60mm (both carcass and knobs). It works for me though as my chainstays don't have much clearance for big tyres.
  • 5 10
flag thenotoriousmic (Aug 6, 2020 at 5:57) (Below Threshold)
 @ranchitup: a 2.35 magic Mary is exactly 2.35 on a 35mm internal rim. 2.5 dhf WT measures at 2.6. Assguy exactly 2.5 and a 2.5 shorty wt comes in at 2.4 as does a 2.4 high roller.
  • 3 0
 @Veloscente: It's tricky. Usually whenever somebody tries to introduce a new unifying standard to unite 3-4 standards, what ends up happening is that instead of everybody adopting the unifying standard, now there are 4-5 standards.
  • 2 0
 The manufacturing tolerance is not 0.05". Three-significant-digit labeling was always stupid.
  • 5 7
 No idea why I’m being downvoted for for measuring my tyres. Hilarious.
  • 1 0
 I just walked over to my bike and measured the 2.5 Assegai and 2.3 DHR at 2.27 on 29mm IW wheels.
  • 3 1
 I like Schwalbe just because their tires are true to size. Companies like Maxxis or Conti use some misleading numbers just to make their tires looks light when they aren't. I just hate that.
  • 2 1
 Schwalbe tires measure true to size in general. Their 2.35 pre addix were 2.35in/60mm which is the same as most Maxxis 2.5 non WT tires.
  • 11 0
 Strange that big betty is designed to be rear tire and there is no speedgrip option... (?)
  • 1 0
 I think they mean speedgrip as in "XC speed" = a tire that's good for pedalling, not so much for trail/enduro.
  • 7 0
 @Will-narayan: As it is good for pedaling it is probably harder gum so it can last longer on rear. Usually it is cheaper too.

Trail and enduro pedals a lot so it would be good for them and you don't need so much grip at rear.
  • 4 0
 @Will-narayan: Speedgrip is roughly equivalent in rolling and traction to Maxxis Dual compound. I see no reason not to run that on the rear wheel for trail/enduro in dry conditions.
  • 13 3
 well this news is just super
  • 6 0
 Good on Schwalbe to still bring out new rubber for the not quite senile 26" bikes but it does follow the trend of "no MTB tread under 2.2".
But why would they make a 2.25 and a 2.26 Nobby Nic version? Is that a typo? 0.01 doesn't seem like a significant enough difference to make it two different products.
  • 5 0
 Ya think?

It's 2.6
  • 4 0
 @thegoodflow: Well the article says: >There are even two 26” models, in either 2.25” or 2.26

I guess 2.25 and 2.6 would make more sense, great for the people that have a 26+ bike... all 5 of them... probably...

(It's a joke don't murder me pls x_x)
  • 3 0
 It's 2.25" and 2.35" for 26". Happy they kept the 26" options, as i'm riding such a bike (they are not dead, they just smell funny as Frank Zappa possibly would have put it), and lovin'it.
  • 2 0
 @thegoodflow: just becoause most 26" bikes are old, they don't have loose enough frames to fit +size tyres. Schwalbe lists 2.25" and 2.35" for 26" on thier webpage.
  • 8 0
 I was reminded of a WTB tire when looking at the new Nobby Nic. Maybe I'm the only one
  • 9 0
 looks like a mini mary
  • 2 0
 The schwalbe vigilante and the schwalbe judge.
  • 1 0
 Noby Nic v3 is the same pattern as the Kenda Kinetics.
  • 4 1
 @thegoodflow: Which is funny because the original WTB Vigilante was a 1:1 copy of the Schwalbe Muddy Mary, which predates it by several years.

On the other hand, there is absolutely no similarity between the Judge and new (or old) Big Betty other than them both being round and black. The Judge is actually closer in design to the DHR2 than to any of the Schwalbes.
  • 1 0
 Mix of Trail Boss and Mini Mary as mentioned above
  • 9 0
 Are your current favourite tyres still under embargo @mikekazimer ?
  • 8 0
 Can someone translate "Super Ground" from english to english for me?
  • 2 0
 I have a question. Ive had my HDs set up tubeless on my bike for yeeeears. I shredded the rear, and moved the front tyre (unshredded) onto the rear and put a new MagicMary on the front.

Why, after maybe...5 years of tubeless shreddery, do i STILL loose sealant through the sidewall of the tyre? The sidewalls are always "wet" when i come to the bike. I assumed that the first coating of milk would seal the Tyre?
I dont loose air, theyve been great, i just got a boring old thorn puncture earlier this week and when i finally gave up waggling it around and pulled the tyre to put a tube in, i found there wasnt a drop of sealant in there.

Top tip, don't ignore your sealant levels for months on end. Might start carrying a little bottle of sealant with my pump. Maybe someone could invent a gas cartridge that delivers a shot of extra sealant in the same move.
  • 3 1
 I witness the same "sweating" of sealant on sidewalls of various tires from Schwalbe, Specialized, Kenda (even on AGC models), etc after harder rides.

Doesn't matter to me.
  • 2 0
 I see the same thing happening on my older Maxxis tyres, not so much the newer ones, but maybe it happens as the tyre ages.
  • 2 0
 older Maxxis tires had this problem and they sent me new ones under warranty. They don't anymore. Sealant sweaty tires get covered in dusty filth and are gross. I would not spend $$$ on tires that leak sealant.
  • 1 1
 Basically it happens because mtb tire manufacturers have shitty quality control. Residues of the production process prevent the sealant to work properly. I read that washing the tire with solvent (kitchen cleaner) has helped some people.
  • 3 2
 The sidewall gets thinner over time thorugh use and sometimes sealant that contains ammonia. So your tire is more likely to sweat over time. If a new tire is sweating you should claim a warranty right away.
  • 3 1
 Blow them up to maximum inflation usually 65 psi and go for a ride around. What this does is stretch all the microscopic holes in the side of your tyre which your sealant tries to plug and when you let the air out to your normal pressures the microscopic holes constrict around around the sealant and the sidewalls stop leaking. If your tyres old and stretched out it won’t really help much.
  • 1 0
 Hutchison makes a canned inflator with sealant built in, mostly for road and tri but it could work. Crazy your tire is still sweating for so long.
  • 1 0
 My maxxis tires get that weeping. My new schwalbe tires so far have been pretty good. Basically nothing in terms of weeping. Seems they've improved a lot on that front.
  • 6 0
 Big Betty, missed an opportunity to have a Thicc Tina.
  • 2 0
 I find schwalbe stuff awesome and I'm kinda like if it ain't broken why fix it. Apex casings are really a great balance for enduro (even on an ebike I've yet to have issues) and magic Mary, Hans dampf and Nobby nic already work really well. So if they improve on this I'll be bloody impressed. Fingers crossed
  • 5 2
 I understand the economics of scale but geeez, I still cant do the math on why motorcycle and auto tires can have 100 times more material and still sell at basically the same price as a bicycle tires sells at.
  • 3 1
 You said it: economy of scale. The rubber on typical car tires is probably much cheaper. I'd bet it woul be more fair to compare care tires to 30-40$ base level mtb tires. 80$ mtb tires are more comparable to track day tires.
  • 4 0
 Nobby Nic V3: “ There are even two 26” models, in either 2.25” or 2.26” widths”

Surely that’s not right???
  • 8 0
 Yeah, they're still making 26" tyres!?!? Wink
  • 1 0
 @korev: Surprise, Continental also still has a full range of 26" tires.
  • 4 0
 Adding "Super" to the name of every single product in your line up is: ____________________ ( fill in the blank )
  • 7 0
 Super
  • 2 0
 They should have gone with Super-Duper-Schmooper for all of them.
  • 6 2
 I'm super excited by this
  • 11 8
 How come the photos don't show loads of missing side nobs? They must not have been used for 2 rides yet!
  • 1 0
 This, just retired a M.M. if the front that went on after a DHF in the rear which is still decent.
  • 2 0
 Haven’t had that problem with the Addix versions.
  • 2 0
 @DrPete: Between 2 bikes we have thrown away 5 addix soft SG Hans Dampf (new style) tyres in the last year due to side nobs being ripped right off the carcass. I'm not an aggressive rider any more, so there must be a manufacturing process issue. Never had this happen ever with Maxxis
  • 1 0
 @notphaedrus: Mine was the old version, it's a great tire but there is definitely some sort of manufacturing issue. I'd love to give the new version a try, but I am an agressive rider. Northstar as much as possible and side knobs get a thrashing.
  • 4 1
 disappointed my riding preferences don't align with !!SUPER GROUND!! casing, just because !!SUPER GROUND!!
  • 5 1
 Time to stock up on Snakeskin Magic Marys
  • 2 0
 Can't find weights anywhere. I guess they aren't available retail yet either?

Super Trail something or another will be my next tire if they are in the ballpark of EXO.
  • 2 2
 Yeah, it's very clear how SpeedGrip relateds to UltraSoft. Except not at all. Harder and faster for speed, or soft and grippy for speed? And the colors don't help decipher the compound, they just help to identify it if you can't see the hotpatch. You still have to know that pink is UltraSoft (or whatever) and know what ultrasoft means.

What the hell does Super Ground mean? How does that intuitively slot into the line up? For bikes that don't race and don't leave the ground?

And if they're all Super, the super is super redundant and super adds to the super confusion.
  • 2 1
 Stoked to see Rock Razor in SG and ST. It’s my favorite semi-slick, but the old Snakeskin was way too fragile.

I could see a BB front/RR rear in ST being down country AF.
  • 1 0
 I like the way the Apex lining improved damping and sidewall support on their 2.6" Nobby Nics and am stoked they are moving it down to the narrower sizes.
  • 1 2
 What no graphene layer.....I'll pass

On a serious note: Why is it harder to figure out what bike tires to run then it is for cars....too much choice and too many options. Flame away PB hordes but how about fewer options. No wonder we pay $100 for a tire these days when a sinlge brand needs to produce and stock over 120 different tires ( assuming all tires listed come in 27.5 and 29 only( more if I add for 26, +, fat ...) and only 2 width each). CRAZY.... Forget the poor shops that have to deal with me going in and complaining because I want the 2.2 supergraphene when they only carry the 2.2 superturd or 2.4 supergraphene.

Bring on the 32 inch bikes in 2022.
  • 1 0
 You poor thing. If it's the same to you just run whatever.
  • 1 0
 @DavidGuerra: Thanks for the kind words. It will help me endure until the DC bike reviews come out next week. I use the run whatever is on super clearance or takeoffs on PB classifieds.
  • 1 0
 @pink505: The tire versions that I want don't exist, so I think you are better off than me, suffering from too much options. You'll be fine...
  • 3 0
 “Super duper.” —Ron Burgundy
  • 2 0
 I mean sure, they stand up to the abuse of elite pros but a PB commenter got a flat once so they must suck.
  • 2 0
 What's next? Bringing back Fat Albert?
  • 8 1
 Adding moar dix.
  • 2 1
 So super!

But what about the most popular OEM casing and rubber one gets with a new bike? Is it Super Performance then?
  • 1 1
 I thought Schwalbe stopped that ages ago and it's now only a Maxxis thing?
  • 1 1
 always loved the NN tread pattern but the casing was too thin. would want to run it up front on my trail/enduro bike but they don't make 2.6 in soft compound ffs
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer I may have missed it, but when will these be available to purchase?
  • 2 0
 They should be available this month (August), other than the Super Race versions - those are due to show up in stores in October.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Thank ya.
  • 1 0
 Magic mary and Hans dampf weight in each casing please?
Thank you very much
  • 2 0
 @thegoodflow: , thank you.
  • 2 0
 I like big bettys I cannot lie
  • 1 0
 According to the table on Schwalbe's website, no one ever rides hardpack Enduro or DH...

imgur.com/a/VwAoiz6
  • 1 0
 @donpinpon29: rock razor or big betty?
  • 1 0
 When will they finally launch the Oval Olav for the still super secret oval wheels?
  • 1 2
 I always felt like Schwalbe tires were too expensive compared to their durability and longevity. Lots of great tires from multiple brands these days.
  • 3 0
 they are premium tires. not all are designed to be durable. They even have charts to show which are more or less durable. I've got a few Schwable tires that have been on bikes for over 10 years now. Still going strong.
  • 1 0
 so will this new NN be better than the hans dampf?
  • 1 0
 The CG pctures have improved.
  • 1 0
 That Big Betty literally looks like velcro for dirt. Gecko Mamma
  • 2 1
 Just want a Magic Mary that is actually 2.5 wide.
  • 2 0
 super duper
  • 1 0
 When she says I want bigger knobs
  • 1 0
 I like Big Betty's and I cannot lie
  • 1 0
 You other brothers can't deny
  • 1 0
 V2 Nobby Nic was good, and I'm looking forward to V3.
  • 2 3
 Oh, finally Schwalbe made their own version of the DHR II, now everyone has it.
  • 1 3
 Looks like a DHR. Lol.
  • 1 1
 Except the BB looks absolutely nothing like the DHR.
  • 3 3
 good god, hans dampf is hopefully gone
  • 1 1
 Not being funny but im pretty sure were good for tyres fam
  • 12 15
 Maybe this time they won’t keep getting punctures? The only experience I’ve had with Schwalbe is bad, like two punctures per ride bad.
  • 15 1
 I have Mm/hans combo for over a year now and i didnt have any problems with punctures and i ride mostly mix terrain.
  • 10 0
 İ have Mm/Mm combo for more than 1.5 year and not a single puncture on rocky terrain
  • 14 0
 Run light casings and you will get punctures. If you're getting two flats per ride, chances are you chose the wrong casing. I have run super gravity magic mary's for a season of hard riding and recieved 0 flats.
  • 1 1
 @ranchitup: super gravity casings front and rear! But after a few months the casing seems to get easier and easier to puncture
  • 7 2
 Looks like the "Super Trail" casing is Schwalbe's admission that their Snakeskin tires just aren't up to Maxxis EXO standards. Although I'm not sure who wants an 1100g Nobby Nic? While admittedly fast-rolling, Nic really only provides XC+ level of grip. If I'm lugging a 1kg+ tire around with me, I want something that grips like a Minion or Magic Mary.
  • 6 0
 @Veloscente: I've found the opposite. Nobby Nics give great traction in soft conditions, and clear easily. What let them down was the casing was too thin. A beefed up Nic on the back would be a great winter tyre.
  • 5 0
 I ran a mix of Super Gravity and DH casing Magic Mary's in Ultrasoft for a season in Whistler on a DH bike and had zero cuts/flats (tubeless, no insert), 225lbs riding weight, mostly tech trails ridden like a hack.
  • 1 0
 As a heavier rider (220lbs/100kg) i simply can't use less than super gravity as a rear tire when it comes to schwalbe tires. Last MM in snakeskin lasted few months as a rear tire on local trails, they just can't handle rocky sections when going downhill... Was hoping i could run lighter tires when riding local trails. Might try the revised schwalbe tires in the future.
  • 1 4
 I have to stick 30PSI+ in my rear Hans Dampf to stop the pinch punctures, I never had that problem with the previous generation of HDs.
  • 2 3
 Same here. Can't remember riding with a Schwalbe tire or tube and having no puncture. I never had these problems with Maxxis, Continental or Onza. Not to mention the difference in grip between the MM and the Minion...
  • 1 0
 @korev: I haven't ridden the new hd, but I also have to run 30psi in a rear hd1 or I'll snakebite the tread (i30 rim)
  • 2 1
 Not had any punctures with NN's on my bikes and punctures. Riding over rocks and tree cutter debris on my follow my nose through the forest trails (Finland).

On my HT the rims were a little narrow for 2.35 and at too low a pressure they would roll and burp but on the i30 rims with a Bontranger Rim Strip - they are great.

NN also doesn't wash out as easily on the soft sandy stuff like my previous Bonty SE4's did and I didn't like the SE5's lack of transition nobs for the variety of surfaces I was riding.
Just don't know to go 2.4 or 2.6 on a 29er. Like the directness of the 2.4 but like the roll over and speed of the 2.6. Have to experiment but I know a NN rear and MM front 2.6 would be a great Winter Snow option. Replace with HD for the summer.

Just hope these tyres are not getting to portly though - 2.6's in a sub 1000g weight is ideal.
  • 3 0
 @Veloscente: I would run that tire on the rear. looks like a Mini Magic Mary..
  • 3 0
 Ran my last set of Nobby Nics till the tread wore out. The Addix generation seems to have been a huge upgrade IMO.
  • 3 0
 @Veloscente: I love the Nic for everything TBH. Especially in dusty off camber sections where the lack of intermediate tread causes me issues.

Honestly enjoyed my Nobby Nic more than my current Minion tire setup. I'm also lightweight though, don't tend to destroy stuff easily.
  • 1 1
 @Noeserd: same here. Mine are the same age super gravity casings and I hope I don’t jinx myself but no punctures. They’ve lasted amazingly well also. I never get tyres to last that long especially on the back.
  • 1 0
 @philmtb99: puncture with what? sharp edged rocks? I mean, we beat the crap out of SG tires and even on the gnarliest rock sections they have an extremely low failure rate.
  • 2 0
 @jordanaustino: I'm also light and ride dusty hardpack 9mos a year. In my experience, the Speedgrip Nic is the fastest rolling trail tire that also provides: A) enough tread depth for decent climbing & cornering grip when there is a bit of loose-over-hard, and B) a nice round, transitional shape for consistent grip at all angles on hardpack. The Snakeskin Nic, however, is build on the same casing as the flimsy little Racing Ralph: if I don't baby the tire over sharp rocks, it is far easier to puncture than an equivalent, ~800g EXO or Grid trail tire. The Minion is a loam tire: for it to work on hardpack, you need it in 3C rubber or softer, and in the 2.4-2.5 WT versions, on which they've decreased the "death valley" gap to the side blocks by making all the blocks larger.
  • 1 0
 @Veloscente: Rekon WT EXO another fast rolling light grippy option
  • 1 0
 @Veloscente: Yeah I've used the speedgrip nic a lot, and ridden it everywhere from the bike park to an XC race. I don't live in a place we have loam though.

And yeah I have the nice Minion with 3C WT and such, I still don't love it though. One corner I ride frequently I washed out my first 3 rides on the new tire. It's off camber hard turn, covered in gravel, I suppose I just need to lean the bike more to hit the side knobs but that goes against every instinct in my body. I like intermediate knobs haha.
  • 2 3
 Side knobs still gonna rip off after 100kms of riding so......
  • 1 3
 Pinkbike announces Grim Donut test.........oh, never mind.
  • 2 5
 There answer is super easy, go back to pacestar
  • 1 1
 And shed a knob each and every ride? That's hilarious.
  • 1 1
 @Veloscente: the new ones cut every other ride that's no better
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