Shimano Factory Shut Down in Malaysia May Cause Additional Product Delays

Jun 17, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  
Shimano Deore on Vancouver s North Shore 2020

Bicycle Retailer reports that the Shimano facility in Malaysia that has been shut down until 28 June could lead to further product delays in the cycling industry.

The facility had been operating at 60% capacity from June 1 due to local government regulations aimed at curbing a fresh wave of COVID 19 infections. However, these guidelines have now been extended and as a result, Shimano will be shutting down the facility until the end of the month.

Shimano said, "The Malaysian government announced a total lockdown from June 01 to June 14 considering the situation of COVID-19. However it was extended until June 28. Consequently, we also have to extend our Malaysian factory shut down until June 28.”

Shimano opened its Malaysian facility in 1990 and it generally manufactures their lower-end to mid-range products there, while its high-end products, such as XTR, are manufactured in its Japanese facility.

Cycling supply chains have been disrupted following a massive demand for new bikes and parts due to the COVID-19 pandemic. These issues have been exacerbated by factory shutdowns due to national lockdowns, restricted capacity due to social distancing, a lack of availability for shipping and even the grounding of the Ever Given in the Suez Canal.

The Malaysian shutdown is another factor that could lead to further supply chain issues. Not just for those riders waiting for aftermarket Shimano parts but for bike manufacturers who wish to spec their bikes with OE products from cycling's largest component brand before releasing them for sale. Several product managers indicated to us that this shutdown is likely to cause delays in upcoming products.

We will update this article as any more information becomes available.


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 I feel like I'm one bad mechanical away from not being a mountain biker
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 Nah, worst case scenarios: wrecked drivetrain, hike-a-bike; wrecked brakes, faster on descents; wrecked suspensions, go rigid; cracked frame, oh well...
  • 92 0
 this is where N+1 all starts making sense
  • 66 0
 I knew that box of half-broken drivetrain parts in my garage would come in handy some day. Anyone wanna buy an almost fully functional sram x-9 derraileur?
  • 2 0
 @Trailsoup: Cannibalising the s*** out of my spare parts bin. My GX cassette gave up the ghost, found an unused SLX cassette, swapped the freehub from an older non-boost wheel and took an end-cap from an other wheel. So I 3 functioning wheels, now I only have 1 as the 2 other ones have non standard axles (between 142 and 148mm).

Rear tyre i like is out of stock, so will basically swap onler worn out tyres on all summer until they all go bald/torn!
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 Oh dear you mean a roadie?
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 @font style="vertical-align: inherit;">font style="vertical-align: inherit;">Mugen /font>/font>:
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 @Trailsoup: That`ll be a new one then.....
runs for cover>
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Agree, All those smug ‘quiver killer’ owners aren’t laughing now are they!
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 @Trailsoup: Me too. I just replaced a couple of parts on my X01DH derrailleur after a weekend in Nesbyen Big Grin
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 @Ceasy: I was out of action except for an XC hardtail for 3 months due to a shock needing replacement but not being available, so I ordered another bike purely for redundancy for similar situations in future.
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 @Lugan: My fat/trail bike had to become my dirt jumper for a few months last year for the same reason (well, fork related not shock). Worked well enough I suppose. Now I need a new crank arm for the trail bike. DJ don't like pedalin' so it may be gravel grinding time on the road, er I mean gravel bike. Never road. Never...
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 Ditto. This might keep me away from bike parks. Seems like every brand is short on parts already. It’s BS☹️
  • 3 0
 @Ceasy: N + 2 or 3... just to be sure
  • 1 0
 @Ceasy: this was me this afternoon. Blew a tire in the woods on my way home to a family ride. Hung the bike up and grabbed the dirt jumper.
n+1 FTW !
  • 1 0
 I could build like 100 bikes off the PB Buy and Sell alone.
  • 3 0
 I feel like I'm one bad mechanical from being homeless. FTFY You can always get parts. The price is the issue.
  • 111 15
 Solution, start pressuring local politicians to stop international vaccine apartheid and start exporting vaccines overseas ASAP. In the US we are reaching vastly diminished vaccine uptake which means thousands of doses are being wasted every single day that would not be wasted in countries like Malaysia.
  • 54 2
 Murica just sent Canada a million extra doses for free to speed up the border opening. They have their priorities
  • 41 0
 @DizzyNinja: I mean, I would like to go to canada
  • 17 30
flag madmon (Jun 17, 2021 at 18:05) (Below Threshold)
 @DizzyNinja: ya they give us a vaccine not legal in the USA.. whoopee doo
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flag westeast (Jun 17, 2021 at 18:28) (Below Threshold)
 Are you referring to the emergency use authorization shots that don't stop infection or transmission, have over 5k reported deaths to VAERS in the US (more in Europe), for a virus with a death rate slightly worse than a moderate flu season that specifically targets the old with multiple comorbidities all while effective treatments are being suppressed so multinational pharmaceutical companies can make billions?
  • 336 29
 @westeast: Sorry, I think you were looking for . This is the website where we talk about Fox suspension and/or apparel and protective gear.
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 @westeast: Imagine still thinking Covid 'specifically targets the old'...
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 @westeast: lol, that one.
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 @westeast: Perhaps public health (myself) should do a better job of communicating just how well these vaccines are working:

Where I live 60% of the entire population (70% of adults) are currently fully immunized against COVID. However, 97% of our current COVID covid cases are completely unvaccinated as well as 94% of COVID related hospitalizations (vaccines don't work as well among immunologically fragile and elderly with frailty).

Our age adjusted crude vaccine efficacy (I just calculated today) was 91%. All of the published studies from around the globe even >6 months post immunization are >90% (including public health, academia, governmental, and pharma company).

In other words these vaccines are doing an amazing job at the moment!
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They're giving us a million doses of the Morderna mRNA vaccine which IS legal in the USA and for that matter is one of four currently approved in Canada and has already been administered to the tune of five MILLION plus doses to Canadians. Pfizer's vaccine is past 18 million doses administered and AstraZeneca is about 2.1 million. The Janssen vaccine was approved but hasn't been administered yet because the entire batch received has been quarantined due to questions of quality control at the manufacturing plant in the USA (whcih was caught mixing up the ingredients in vials being made for the AstraZeneca vaccine which is produced in the same facility as produces the Janssen vaccine also)
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 @westeast: oh I remember reading about those other effective treatments... prayer and black mass. Or was it the powdered form of whatever illegally trafficked-animals are made from?
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 @deeeight: Canada is donating 13m doses to developing countries. 7m of those doses being NOVAVAX. A vaccine not approved in Canada.... so maybe that’s what the guy from Jamaica talking about
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flag madmon (Jun 17, 2021 at 20:12) (Below Threshold)
 @cmcrawfo: no I'm talking about astrazeneca not approved in the USA the one vaccine we know is killing people and is less effective... and I am only in Jamaica in season the rest I live in the 6 Toronto so ya I can tell ya about lockdown
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flag madmon (Jun 17, 2021 at 20:18) (Below Threshold)
 @deeeight: Jamaica was given 30,000 doses and no one wants it they want the real deal even the PM took it live on JTV and still tumbleweeds. Home in Toronto we have been forced to take Zeneca due lack of supply now we are being told a different story weekly by our useless PM Fordo who now says take an RNA as a second dose.
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 trust an American to make a story about Malaysia about America!! there are other countries in the world!
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 @westeast: all in one sentence too. Impressive.
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 @madmon: 7m unapproved doses to the third world is still more disgusting than 1m less than appealing does from one development nation to another.... just my take.
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 @ppp9911: Can you please stop being logical?
Its going to hurt his brain
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 @madmon: so half of Europe must be dead by now , especially great Britannia but wait , is it?
It's the most used vaccine here so what's up Dude?
  • 3 0
 @DizzyNinja: you didn't hear about the lobby of mountain bikers behind this? Although they tried cover it up, the truth is out and it's fodder for a new conspiracy known as WhistmasGate.
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 @Serpentras: Yeah, in the UK up to the 2nd of June there were 372 reported blood clots out of 40.2 million doses. 66 people died. Getting Covid gives you a much higher chance of developing blood clots. Amazing how many people are willing to ignore that bit.
I've had both jabs of the AZ vaccine, and look at that, I'm still here to comment.
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flag ReeferSouthrland (Jun 18, 2021 at 3:59) (Below Threshold)
 @westeast: These idiots aren't ready for the truth.
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 @Baoas: not targets, but is really only deadly to. death rate if you are under 60 and in reasonable health? less than 1/100th of 1%.
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 @monkey-man: it’s a Canadian website, and James is British
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 @monkey-man: Story wasn’t about Malaysia bud. It was about bike parts. Sorry to disappoint.

And this is hardly an American specific thing. Plenty of people from other countries try to twist foreign troubles into a referendum on American foreign policy, consumerism, tourism, ignorance, callousness…

It’s a little weird to criticize someone for self reflecting on how their own actions are impacting others. As those hordes of foreigners love to remind us, our actions impact everyone in the world. Are we just supposed to sit idly until the rest of the world is screaming in pain, or should we be proactive?
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 @westeast: found the Joe Rogan fan.
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 @ppp9911: good job triple p!!!
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 @gerhards: I'm holding out for "the very powerful light inside my body."
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 @madmon: well many Americans go to Europe/turkey etc for treatments not legal USA. The fda isnt always the bible of rx justice.
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 @westeast: you need to get better sources and study some biology...
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 @ReeferSouthrland: apparently reading comprehension wasn't an important trait growing up in your household? Yes, we and 99% of experts just don't get it. Thank God we have real experts like you and this other guy that can't read good . My brother shares your level of critical thinking ability. See something happen with your own eyes but know it can't be true since it didn't fit your preconceived idea of what is really going on. Good luck to ya...
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 @commental: oh..... now we want to use statistics? when it fits the narrative? care to discuss the death rate of Covid, for those under 70yrs old?
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 @conoat: OK, death rate for Covid is higher than the death rate due to vaccination, in any demographic. If you want to argue against that, what are you going to do? Use statistics that fit your narrative? Bottom line is, if you are against the vaccine then don't have it. You might be fine, you might have a shitty outcome. The only thing I can guarantee is that there will be zero f*cks given by me either way.
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 @conoat: 600,000 dead people should be ignored for politics in America. I think we can all agree on that!
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 @commental: Good Luck with your endeavor!!! I think reality sort of just pings off the shields these folks surround themselves with.
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 @Solorider13: Tell me about it.
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 @ppp9911: @westeast get wrecked man… let me know how the riding is in the burn ward
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 @ppp9911: If you're going to through out specific data then site some sources. Going back to the original trials the high efficacy claims made by phizer and moderna are highly misleading and manipulated.

Since you work in public health, what are your thoughts on ivermectin or hcq used with zinc and azithromycin, and budesonide? Have you heard or listed to Dr. Zelinko, Dr. McCullough or Dr. Kory or others who have successfully treated covid patients? Why do you think these cheap and effective drugs are not being used, but expensive and ineffective remdesivir are?

What is your response to the very high number of deaths and bad reactions reported to VAERS? Compared to traditional vaccines, the covid shots are showing an high rate of deaths and bad reactions. Do you support giving them to kids who are at a near zero risk of dying from covid?

@vp27: While you're reading about your woes of sourcing a new chain or cassette, there are people in very poor countries that are having trouble getting their basic needs to survive met due to these lockdowns. BTW, I don't watch foxnews. Perhaps you should turn CNN and MSNBC off and think for yourself.

@Baoas: go look it up. Average age of death from covid in most countries is around 80 with multiple comorbidities.
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 @gilby82: I might be your father.
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 @westeast: Someone's blog is definitely more reliable than the WHO and most Goverment appointed medical advisors.
You live in an alternate universe full of dim-wits and conspiracy theorists, who are dim-wits. Come and join reality, it's not that bad.
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 @lev3000: You believe governments and it's appointed advisors put the peoples best interest first?
If so, you're the one not living in realty.
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Novavax filed for approval in the US and the UK for its Covid-19 vaccine but doesn't expect the UK approval to come until july. The results from Its phase 3 trials (announced 4 days ago) conducted in the US and Mexico showed 89.3% efficiency which is higher than the Janssen vaccine efficiency which is being widely distributed already in the US. Canada is donating that one because our government has early order options placed for it, but no longer requires it as Pfiizer's and Moderna's deliveries alone will be sufficient for every Canadian 13 and older to recieve two doses by the end of September. Many world governments placed orders with multiple vaccine makers simultaneously last year based on phase 2 trial results. It was just a question of who would finish their stage 3 trials first and get approved for production and distribution first, and then be able to fulfill those orders first. Pfizer's june delivery rate for Canada is 2.5 million doses per week.
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In Canada, when they were arguing about the blood clots and pausing AstraZeneca distribution back in April, the statistics of contracting Covid-19 (as measured against the entire population) was about 1 in 53 and of then dying from it if contracted were 1 in 46. Based on current Canadian instances of blood clots, the odds of having gotten one at all was 1 in 55,000 based on the 2.1 million doses administered. They still haven't identified what in that vaccine technology is causing the clotting reaction but the Janssen vaccine (which uses the same underlying technology as AstraZeneca) triggers it also (though that one has only done it in Women) at a similar rate based on US results.
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 @westeast: more than social media and some random persons blog? Big yes from me. And guess what, that is the real world. You're the in minority nutcase conspiracy crew. Good luck all the same.
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 @lev3000: Doshi is a PHD editor at the BMJ, so not exactly some random blog.

Seriously, try challenging your current views rather than being so dismissive because it's not an approved source of yours.

Interview with Dr. Kory (ICU doc who has treated covid patients):

Interview with Sucharit Bhakdi, M.D:

I'm signing out on this one. Good luck to all of you.
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 @deeeight: Why do NA always call it Pfizer? They did the clinical trials but Biontech actually developed it, eh?
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Because Pfizer is the actual manufacturer of the drugs, their name is on the labels of the vials. They are also responsible for the distribution of the vials. Also most people are just plain stupid and have less of a problem pronouncing and spelling Pfizer than they do BioNtech given how the later's logo makes it look like its supposed to be aiontecrl.
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 @deeeight: i believe some germans figured out what was causing the clots
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 @conoat: Lots of posters here that are not very good at math, or statistics.
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 @Lemmyschild: no one said they should be ignored(how we can assume an accurate count, given the shenanigans, I don't know). just put in context when discussing the efficacy/dangers of the vax in certain demographics, alongside the discussion of lockdowns/mandates/propoganda.

the vast majority of those 600K were over the age of the average lifespan of a typical american. meaning, a decent portion, statistically speaking, would have died in that timespan anyways. Also, 600K is 1/10th of 1% of the pop. of the US. is that enough to sacrifce you liberties(the lord know the government is really good at relinquishing newly found powers!!!!)?
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 @deeeight: 1/53 contraction is a completely made up number. I mean, all it says is 1/53 people that were tested, contracted it. see the difference?
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 @Compositepro: From what I understand it begins with the spike proteins. Phizer, Moderna, AZ, claimed they would stay localized in the arm where the shot was given. A study out of Japan shows otherwise. Within hours the spike proteins are circulating in your body and in some, can cause all sorts of havoc (maybe most in those with prior infections?).

Interesting interview with the guy who supposedly created mRNA vaccines:
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 I hope you hurt buttholes pedal correctly , don't believe these shiftheads.
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I'll break the math down for a stupid person like you...

As of yesterday... Canada's total population was just over thirty eight million. We have had 1,407,269 confirmed cases of covid. That's currently 1 in 27 by total population. And we've had 23,023 deaths out of that 1,407,269 which puts it as currently 1 in 63. The death odds have gotten better for those who've contracted it since April because of increased vaccinations to at least 1st dose stage for more people, but the odds on testing positive for it all have gotten worse as more and more people have been contracting it and spreading it around.
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 @ppp9911: why is it that a person with prior health conditions gets incubated and dies it’s from covid? But when someone gets the vaccine and dies it’s from their prior health conditions?
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 @deeeight: you've likely had an astonishingly higher number of cases than that.

and don't be a c*nt, c*nt.
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 @ppp9911: you forgot to add, how Joe made the vaccine and saved everyone.
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 Slow Biden made the virus in China to win an election. Read that in 10 years and tell me you're wrong.
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 @ReeferSouthrland: these conspiracy theories are simply out of control and will never end. People like yourself are incapable of understanding why Trump lost and in turn develop and feed conspiracy theories. I can throw a rock and hit someone who despises Trump and subsequently voted for Biden. This really isn’t that difficult to see - millions of Americans and people worldwide hate Trump. Wake up.
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Same people who believed Hlary and the democrats were running a child trafficing sex ring out of the basement of a pizza parlour... you know... the one built on bedrock which had no basement at all.

Although,something that's not a conspiracy... the US intelligence community IS now looking at the origins of the pandemic as an intelligence operation, trying to determine (hopefully with more reliable information than the weapons of mass destruction Iraq supposedly had) if it was something that escaped from a research labratory in Wuhan, China. The fact that Canada expelled some chinese researchers from a lab in Alberta last year who were caught MAILING samples of Anthrax and Ebola back to china... well... evidence like that and the discovery a bunch of chinese virulogist doctors were presenting at hospitals with a mystery lung infection during the late summer of 2019... are definitely lending credence to that particular theory. Its something they were researching... safety protocols weren't followed to keep it isolated INSIDE the lab.... and well we know what happened next.
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 @westeast: Sorry dude, we don't watch any of that rubbish north of the border. Also, you're trying to prove your argument with an opinion blog. Way to go! If you're really going to start pulling in data, the chances of blood clots are higher for women taking the pill than from these vaccines. Sounds to me you've been going on blogs and opinion sites way too much. Naughty, Naughty!!! Maybe there's a good reason we haven't heard of your doctors.

On lockdowns, yes, these have very detrimental economic effects. I for one lost my job. However, without lockdowns, including in poor countries, you're allowing a very contagious disease with a significantly higher mortality rate than for example the flue, to overwhelm your healthcare system. That's the reason lockdowns exist. The poor are the ones who are worst hit as they have generally bad access to health care. Brazil and India are two clear cut examples and the same goes for the US if you look at mortality per ethnicity and income categories. Sure, the kids live, but their parent and primary earner in the family might be dead.

I can start pulling in data, but I'm just going to finish by saying that the people who developed the vaccines are waaaaaaaaay smarter than any of us keyboard warriors on the Pinkbike forum. Here's an article from the "failing NY Times!!!" Other publications are available on these people who I consider heroes of this pandemic. That goes for AstraZeneca, Pfizer/Biontech and Moderna. The same goes for the people approving them. I for one have faith in the Canadian and European governments and experts to get it right and the numbers bear it out. If my 9 month old was allowed to get one of these vaccines, I'd line up immediately. I'm sorry you clearly don't have the same trust in your country and information you're provided.
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 @vp27: Again, the blog is by an editor at the BMJ, who is a PHD, and is asking pertinent and valid questions about the covid shot studies. Is it not rational to look closely at the data put out by a private for profit corporation that has been fined multiple times, sometimes criminally, for a product they stand to make billions on and have no liability for?

Please, please, please have an ounce of skepticism about the covid shots, especially before giving them to your children. Children literally have a zero percent chance of dying from covid (it's like .0007 or something). So giving them a covid shot offers no benefit, but has real risks. Look up things like absolute risk, relative risk and number needed to treat. You owe your 9 mo that much at least.

Interview with Dr. Malone, inventor of mRNA vaccine technology (prior link I posted to this was deleted):
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 @westeast: I'm sure there's a reason the prior link was deleted Smile . Please, please please fact check before spreading horror stories. I appreciate your concern, but again, it's the job of our medical scientists to decide if a vaccine is safe or not and we shouldn't be making a decision based on a Youtube clip. is just a quick example to debunk your arguments. Your type of thinking is the reason the US is now once again falling behind in vaccinations. It was actually Katalin Karikó who was at the forefront of mRNA research. As to companies just chasing profit, just do a bit of research on the CEO of BioNtech. I'm going to finish here as we can keep on going back and forth. My main issue with antivaxers and people who just believe every Youtube clip from someone saying they invented XYZ and studied at uni ABC is that it puts the rest of us in danger. If you don't want to get vaccinated, fine, but please go live in a remote hut somewhere far away from the rest of us.
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 @vp27: The fact checkers are a poor example. We're already seeing them having to recant their prior labeling of the "lab leak theory" as absolutely false. They are people who are fallible and susceptible to corruption. Just like a commenter above posted about WMD's in Iraq, these leaders and big wigs of ours can an do get it wrong for all sorts of reasons.

I'll quit since you think I have no place in society since I don't wan to inject myself or my children with experimental mRNA technology. That says all I need to know about you.
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 @nlibot33: statistics? Dunno as far as i know everything is a numbers game these days to make the ruling political government moar better
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 @extratalldirtrider: Check back in 10 years, you're very new to politics.
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 @ReeferSouthrland: perhaps but definitely not new to any sort of critical thinking or common sense.
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 @westeast: you do have a place in society: far away from people who care enough about society to not be Typhoid Larry's
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 @vp27: Funny thing is if your vaccinated you should have nothing to worry about....Unless you question the vaccines validity but you chose to be part of an experiment anyway?
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 @Bill41306061: Sounds like you don't know how vaccines work!
  • 2 1
 @nlibot33: because you don't understand how the virus or the vaccine works.
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 Also SRAM: holds beer with consistent and predictable pressure, and some squealing.
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flag monkey-man (Jun 17, 2021 at 20:20) (Below Threshold)
 trust an American to make a story about Malaysia about America!! there are other countries in the world!
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 @monkey-man: wandering bite point knows no nationality. It is wandering, after all.
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 @monkey-man: you stole our flag!
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 Honest question - what is the lead time on SRAM parts? Is it significantly better than Shimano?
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 @blackthorne:@blackthorne: I don't actually know why that comment is here! it was a reply to a different comment. An American making a story that has nothing to do with America about Merica!
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 working in a shop, I've started saving all the extra 12 speed shimano links we would usually toss in metal recycling. in a few months I should have a full length shimano deore/slx/xt chain, and will auction it off to the highest bidder.
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 Shimano SLX Chain For Sale
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 Will you ship? I hear thats working pretty good at the moment
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 That's a f*cking rip off, i just got one for 219$
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 Not far off. Retail is 32.99 and on eBay most are double that.
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 I have a FULL12-speed XT drive train w/ FSA Gradient cranks sitting in a box collecting dust. $4200.69 OBO
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 Shimano opened its Malaysian facility in 1990 and it generally manufactures their lower-end to mid-range products there.

So according to many a brand I won’t mention, this effects any 2021 bike up to about 6k then.
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 Up to XT is produced there too now. Japan does XTR, Dura-Ace, Steps.
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 @5afety3rd: better make it all bikes up to 10k then.
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 @5afety3rd I definitely saw SLX and XT on the line in their Singapore factory. Malaysia is still low end, but all cables and brake pads…
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 @blackthorne: labeled right on product. Also been a tech for 23 years. The quality changed and the price lowered as more product progressively went to Malaysia.
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 @5afety3rd: that’s sad man. The cutoff really should be at XT. I just checked my SLX cranks tho, these are still made in Japan.
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 @blackthorne: I imagine buying only one set of the complex forging machines is cheaper.
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 We are on a semi-full lockdown n Malaysia. We can't even ride on the road or go more than 10k from our house. The factory has only been closed due to this. More distressing they have also closed the Alcohol factories!!!! Malaysia at the moment is an absolute joke, the government is shutting down and destroying local and small business for a handful of people. While giving no support to local people, and dragging their feet on any kind of vaccine program. The I love living here, but this is my last year! this has just been too much.
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 Thanks for the report, best wishes
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flag ReeferSouthrland (Jun 18, 2021 at 7:02) (Below Threshold)
 Do you have an election coming up with a very unqualified dementia patient with hairy legs running? Sounds exactly like what they did here with the political virus.
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 If it makes you feel any better, we tried the same thing here. All good for mega corps like Amazon and Walmart to function as normal but smaller businesses were f*cked, and if the first f*cking wasn't enough then some of the left overs in certain cities just got straight burned down. Hope it ends for you guys soon. Really goes to show how different the response from the government was in places like texas/Florida vs the rest of the world. They're arresting politicians in Canada for not doing 14 day quarantines. Never thought I'd see the world quite like this.
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There’s zero “may” or “could” about it.
This coupled with 3 port closures in China, raw material shortages and myriad other factors means the worst could be yet to come.
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flag DoubleCrownAddict (Jun 17, 2021 at 16:52) (Below Threshold)
 Another good reason to buy a gearbox bike, no rear derailleur to replace!
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 @DoubleCrownAddict I dunno man, certain brands look like they’ve nailed it with ordering, YT for one…
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 Ha yeah, I had a chainlink foul on a relatively new SLX chain this week. All I needed was one chainlink, called almost ever large bike shop in town 0 shimano chains or even extra chainlinks that I could purchase, luckily a family member that is coming to visit found a new deore chain in their town and were able to pick it up for me. Pretty crazy
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 @broscience: Yes I agree. I for one find YT leaders of the pack when it comes to customer relations and back up part supply chain, and generally being all inclusive of all types of riders and especially catering for all genders...
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 @ppp9911: All I wanted was a chainlink. Just one chainlink. And they wouldn't give it to me...
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 @Karlos97: Seinfeld reference for Elaine and the toilet paper? "Just one square?"
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 @DoubleCrownAddict: must bev fun living in your world!
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 @Karlos97: Shoulda asked for a Pepsi.
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 @ppp9911: Suicidal Tendencies, "Institutionalized"
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 Oh, ok, I give in, the signs are clear to me now, time for me to start doing some actual bike maintenance.
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 Won’t be long and I’ll be lubing my chain with used motor oil
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 * dusts off tin foil hat * Medical supplies will be prioritized, such as DENTAL equipment, thus allowing the 1% to continue to ride as their income and group set choices are unaffected. Yeti will become prevalent on your local trail systems, with parking lots full of Porsche Cayennes with bike racks on.
Finally the, " plandemic ", will achieve it's ultimate goal - keep the plebs and peons off the trails and in the factories where they belong !
That's the only logical explanation ! Smile
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 Manufacturing facilities in Malaysia that involve production of medical equipment or other "emergency" or "essential" equipment gain priority for 60% work force over those locations that do not. Sorry, but the Malaysian government most likely does not include bicycle parts in this bucket. Sure, your Shimano (or other bicycle component) products could be manufactured at a site that also makes components for hospitals, emergency workers or the like, but because the supply chain is stressed you can bet your Dogecoin that those customers won't receive priority on the manufacturing lines.

From: Supply chain engineer on nightly calls with Singapore and Malaysia to assess priority of medical and essential equipment being ran over bicycle parts and vacuum cleaners.
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 Hopefully this gives opportunity for a third player like BOX, TRP, or Microshift to gain more foothold in the market. I have BOX drivetrains on my bikes and they’re great. I’m not sure what their stock levels are, but there are other great options besides the big two.
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 What BOX drivetrain? Going to swap out the 3x8 on my daugher's pitch for 1x. leaning towards sram because I have an extra 11spd nx cassette around. Was thinking about BOX Prime 3 9 speed but feedback from local shop says shifting is clunky
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 I’d say production has been derailed.
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 Hopefully they can shift production
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 @gradzick: We've all learned a lot more about the supply chain lately.
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 So happy I have my Zerode!
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 Jacobim Mugatu, Maury Ballstein and other bicycle company executives should hire Derek to have a word with Malaysia’s incompetent Prime Minister..
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 I broke my XT 12v dérailleur recently. It seems i was not alone to brake the soft aluminium body.

The derailleur was out of stock everywhere, I only could find an item on Aliexpress.

Don't break your Shimano parts now folks!
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 Have you heard about the internet? German sites got it,why are you whining?
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 Pinkbike reports that used drivetrain sales double in 3 hours.
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 It's not clear to me when or if the pre-covid international supply chain norm returns. Therefore, I'm surprised I'm not hearing more about major corps exploring options to "diversify" their supply chains across a much broader spectrum of countries, rather than having them highly concentrated in Asia. I'm no expert in the field, but more regional and/or local supply chains seems like a logical response for the near term future.
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 I think the timeframe for setting up a whole new factory is more of a mid- to long-term problem.
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 @barp: Well, we're well on our way to year 2 of major supply chain disruptions. We have about 5 or so highly effective vaccines against COVID with historically high vaccination rates (roughly 50% +) across the developed world. Cases, deaths, and hospitalization rates have plummeted. Despite that, now, in June, 2021, Shimano is having to shut down a major factory, piling on further strain to an already strained supply chain. Let's just assume that COVID dies tomorrow. Even assuming that (which is an absurd assumption), the backlog is so ridiculous, it could take well over a year to catch up. But, of course, that's not going to happen. And, again, as I've been discussing elsewhere in this comments section, COVID and other scary viruses are always around and now we've set a precedent to lockdown. "C19" will surge in the fall/winter this year. What then? More lockdowns? Maybe not, but there's good reason to think we'll be facing them. Lots of countries are still locked down. I admit that, assuming a rapid return to normal, many companies will reasonably consider it "premature" to build new factories. But, that's an assumption...and one which enough time as passed to where reasonable questions should be asked. It strikes me as pretty crazy if the idea isn't at least being considered at most major corps right now.
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 @burnermtb: Nah, I absolutely agree that diversifying the supply chains sounds like a solid idea; I was just quibbling with your phrase "for the near term future". It could help the situation with maybe a COVID-25, but probably not with not COVID-19.
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 Solution... stop production on the other side of the planet!
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 This please! So many reasons to rethink the current system.
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I think exacerbate is the word here.
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 I found a zee10sp rear mech for my son on Amazon for $60. Grabbed it while i could, since his is on its last leg. I seen an SLX rear 12sp mech for $205 the other day. Pretty much the only Shimano rear mech available anywhere from what i have seen. The struggle is real.
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 Malaysia is a shit show at the moment. I think it's lockdown number four and its been running for a while.
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 The “shit show” has been successful in flattening the curve. Unfortunately it’s not an island of marooned convicts, which would have made it easier to contain the virus.
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 It is a complete shit show! The incompetence and blatant corruption of the government truly showing!
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 @joeadnan: how would it have been easier to "contain" an island of marooned convicts lol??
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 MAY cause delays? That’s an understatement of epic proportions
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 Microshift Advent X is available at several online retailers. I am leaning heavily in that direction for my new build.
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 ...i am with you on that. One of my buddies built a bike with that group set. Its cheap and legit.
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 Just out put their groupset on my Balance build. So far so good! They pick up the phone too!
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 I just replaced my wore out gx 12 speed with this and it the jam. Do not miss the 12 speed at all
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 It’s bichin spec and the price is fair
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 Back in March Shimano reported a 600 day lead-time delay on fulfilling new orders. That means that if say Specialized placed an order in March for 10 million dollars of shimano parts... the delivery would happen sometime in late 2022.
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 I was having trouble with my rear brake, I tried bleeding and new pads but I think a piston was sticking a bit - its probably original on a 6 year old bike. I thought I will just order another. Ooops price actually 3x what I got one for another bike last year on clearance and not in stock immediately. I thought sure wish I had of bought a couple when they were on sale last year (I have the same brakes on 3 bikes), I guess I will have to sort through my giant box of semi broken parts to see if I can cobble together something. As soon as I start digging in the brake box I find a new in the package ready to go Shimano brake - I had ordered 2 when they were on sale. I was so happy I left my coffee and got a beer
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 I stripped the threads on the lockring on my 12 speed SLX chainring and ended up having to buy a 12 speed XT chainring just to get a lockring. LoL. 148 bucks... Not that i won't use the chainring eventually but, don't break anything because there ain't no spares...
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 just bring back manufacturing to North America (USA and CANADA) and deport poverty back to where our jobs were sent, shareholder and CEO's take a Fn downer ... stop sending our jobs to our rivals and cheating them of wages ... or are you scared that if we manufacture ... we have people in power? ...
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 I think i gotta do a write up on a site called taobao. got everything you need shimano, sram fox, u name it they have it. Price wise not much of a difference but they got stock on even 26ers and they ship all over the world. only issue is that its in chinese. google translate is your friend.
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 I work in the Industry and we have plenty of bikes trickling in that we have had on back order but we are struggling for full suspension and road bikes.

If you said to me today "please can I order a large Trek Remedy" I would be telling you its July 2023 before you can have 1! 2023!

I am after a Procaliber myself to start doing some XCO events but they aren't available until August 2022.

Brake pads are getting harder to find, chains are not available until October November for 9 speed and for my 12 speed Shimano.... March, April 2022 so I've grabbed a spare drive train just to have.

Hope Technology are currently working on 15 weeks for a set of Hope brakes.

Hope this helps all you guys out with understanding stock problems if you didn't know how bad it really was.
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 Basically a new reason to push up prices...
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 Fuck Covid. As a bike mechanic, this is complete and utter Bull Shit can't get any bloody parts to fix anything. this is exactly why they should have onshore manufacturing not moving factories offshore so they can die like Holden
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 I miss my old Belmont
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 Time to bring those factory’s to the USA
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 USA is way too politically unstable, like the DRC or Britain.

Maybe Canada or Mexico?
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 @L0rdTom: dude they're arresting pastors and politicians currently in Canada, may want to scratch that one off the list as well. Let's just see if China could maybe take over manufacturing.
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 Did Sram pay out the Malaysian government to do this lol
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 First it was a fire in the factory, then Covid, now this? At some point you gotta notice a trend and strengthen your processes. Shimano's supply chain logistics are as reliable as XT brake bite point.
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 So glad I built my bike and my girlfriends bike with 11sp xt stuff, still not that hard to find, works great and is pretty cheap really, also relatively light. Win win win, all around win!
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 Now is the time to offload my surplus drivetrain components! Nice, from boat anchors to money makers!
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 Corovid is still a thing?
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 Yes, but only for two more weeks.
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 Microshift advent X is a great substitute.
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 This might explain why 11spd Deore 11-51t cassettes and the corresponding rear mech are about as common as rocking horse dung ATM?
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 Just restored an old hardtail with the original XT 10 speed drivetrain. Still works! Glad I saved that box of worn out parts.
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 This is why I've stocked up on parts for the summer.
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 Exactemundo! Be a component-prepper!
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 Thank the lord for Ali-Express
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 Is alu-express legit? Their prices look suspicious as does its webpage?
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 @thenotoriousmic: They are based
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 @thenotoriousmic: They’re very legitimate. The parent company, Alibaba, is worth hundreds of billions. Basically just chinese amazon.
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 @thenotoriousmic: Some items are knockoffs, hence the low prices. Others are really just that cheap. The website design looks weird, but is just catering to short attention spans and impulsive purchasing.
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 May Shimano users RIP
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 The only reason they closed down is to work on fixing Mike Ks issue with noisy XTR brakes …
Not covid related
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 guess i'll be running single speed whether i like it or not
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 Enough wi the the Covid bs already. Geez.
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 Where do they manufacture their brake pads? Or do they still make those? All I can ever find anymore is the finned ones.
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 Ha, jokes on you guys - I knew my blind allegiance to SRAM would pay off one day!
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 We shouldn't just talk about cheap labor manufacturing like its OK. Shimano and all others should be be manufacturing in Japan, UK, Canada or US.
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 Deore and down is manufactured in Malaysia. SLX and above is manufactured in Japan.
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 @ols532704: XTR, Dura-Ace, and coaster brake hubs are manufactured in Japan. Everything else is China or Malaysia
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 Yeah! Screw the upward mobility afforded by a manufacturing job!
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 Hahaha can you imagine the wingeing that would happen on here if customers had to pay the price of a derailleur manufactured in Canada….we’ve already got $5700 bikes with deore spec…
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 Why? Don't Asian people deserve jobs?
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 Agreed, the human and environmental cost of manufacturing low cost parts and shipping them half way around the globe to market is crazy. Yes prices would go up if manufacturing was more local, but maybe we can move away from needing the latest and greatest and being such a throw away society. Unfortunately the environmental impact may be the first impact those in the west really feel. While the human cost in the east makes you feel sick.
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 @spaceofades: All my Deore XT parts say made in Japan.
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 @TheMrSteve: So instead of making bike parts for a dollar an hour, you wish those humans were… what? Tending a rice patty for a dollar a day?
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 @TheMrSteve: shimano manufacturing in China, Singapore and Malaysia is local, for both shimano and a large percentage of the world’s population.
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 @monkey-man: They do, but, like anything, it has to make sense for the bottom line. Right now (and for a long time now), the Asian supply chain is just unreliable. I wish that wasn't the case, but it is. And I'm not seeing this changing for some time. Covid was a massive cluster f*ck from a policy standpoint and it has set precedents that will make the future of the old international supply chain uncertain, if not impossible. The second there's anything that looks like a scary SARs, MERs, etc., virus in Asia in the future (a regular occurrence pre-covid), the pressure to lockdown will be intense. I am hopeful we will eventually regain our sanity but even if we do, it will probably take years. Worst case, we don't recover our sanity and double down on this insanely warped understanding of risk.

Either way, the Asia supply chain has been absolutely wrecked for over a year. I don't see how, from a business perspective, that can go on for much longer before the supply chain is reorganized to become more regional/local.
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 @burnermtb: bottom line… Shimano had a 42% profit margin in 2020. With that kind of margin… they don’t need to be seeking out the lowest labor cost. Same goes for all industries.

In these times… considering environmental impact… Asian supply chain disruption… businesses really need to reconsider the global economy, and get back to local.
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 @burnermtb: the situation is no better anywhere else in the world. Parts we signed contracts for over two years ago with both European and US suppliers have had their deliveries pushed back 12 months so far. The sources of the components used in these parts are 98% USA and Europe in order to comply with acquisition rules for our largest customers. Our Asian suppliers of raw materials, small components, tooling, and consumables, have had delays too but currently they’re delivering close to schedule.
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 @Afterschoolsports: With the exception of complex, specialized manufacturing, it's no secret that EU/US manufacturing has been largely outsourced over recent decades. As a result, the EU/US manufacturing base is large gutted - particularly for mass manufacturing. It is no surprise, therefore, that in the midst of global lockdowns, the comparatively limited EU/US manufacturing base is feeling very great demands. This will only get worse in fact.

However, none of this changes the fact that if the EU/US expanded its manufacturing base, both would be much better positioned to handle supply chain issues in a world where global lockdowns appear to be a part of the foreseeable future. I simply do not see a future where you can have regular global lockdowns AND the status quo of the Asian supply chain is maintained. That's not sustainable. Now, of course, the other option is for global leaders, as well as ordinary citizens, to regain the sanity.

I hope that will occur, but I grow increasingly pessimistic on that front. So, if paranoia is our chosen future, then that signals the death of the old international supply chain order whether we like it or not.
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 @burnermtb: it’s all good and well saying that the manufacturing bases should be expanded but that doesn’t happen overnight, nor does it occur without significant investment. Some of our suppliers play big in the consumer space, yes there is gigantic demand for goods right now, yes they’re doing everything they can to meet that demand, but when their existing facilities reach a limit, they’re hesitant to make the capital investment to stand up a new facility. The demand for these consumer goods, is not likely to be sustained in the long term. Financial institutions are happy to hand out money for improving current facilities but a bit more skittish with new facilities. Translocation of production is also a case of “why would we choose to take something offline for six to nine months when demand is so high?”

The real shift in manufacturing will be the rethinking of the lean manufacturing methodologies currently in place globally.
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 @burnermtb: I really hope we bring lots of manufacturing back. Just the amount of drugs we have manufactured overseas is crazy, let's be honest if things go south between the west and China, we don't want to be in that situation. And people regaining sanity? Lmao, we all know that isn't happening any time soon.
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 @Afterschoolsports: I get it, but I think your baseline is a pre-covid norm. If we accept that baseline, yes, what you say makes sense. But, it's unclear to me at this time what our post-covid norm looks like. I hope, and think we should, go back to the pre-covid norm. I don't agree with the mainstream consensus on covid lockdowns, etc. I think in the grand post-mortem, they will have done little, if anything - and certainly not worth the costs.

But, here's the thing...a ton of people disagree with me and, most importantly, a ton of people in power disagree with me and a ton of people without power support those people in power who disagree with me. It would appear, therefore, that those who disagree with me will be steering the ship for some time. And, when I look at what they're seeing, I don't see a clear path away from frequent global lockdowns being our, at least, short term, future. Just as an example, we're probably going to see "covid" (I put air quotes around this because covid has obviously mutated (several times), yet we are still consolidating all "covid" as one) spikes this fall/winter. This is almost inevitable. There is no "end" to covid, as in an "end" to SARs viruses.

If the "standard" now is lockdowns (as it is currently), will we be locking down again every flu season? The new conventional wisdom would appear to say yes. Or, at the least, we don't know. So, OK, if that's our new norm, then the skittishness over capital investments starts to make less and less sense. It strikes me that industry (and a lot of folks) right now are banking on this idea that pre-covid norms are returning. OK, but, that might be wrong.
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 @DylanH93: Right. It's pretty staggering to me how so many people appear ignorant of how C19 exposed our manufacturing vulnerability.
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 @Baller7756: Conventional wisdom would say that with a 42% profit margin, they're doing something right...despite supply chain disruptions. Capital investments ARE risky and corps are generally risk averse.

The question is, is "conventional" coming back? Industry is banking on it coming back. That's the million dollar question to me. The problem is that we've rejected prior conventional wisdom and set a new precedent that its "prudent" to initiate global lockdowns to combat respiratory viruses. SARs, MERs, etc., are not going away (the were here pre-covid). And, quite shockingly to me, we appear poised to invest BILLIONS into gain of function research. The only way this stops is for some sort of grand consensus that we were wrong with our approach to C19. But, is that going to happen? It strikes me that we're all in and there may be no going back. We're too invested in being right.
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 @burnermtb: Yes... use whichever saying you choose... cats out of the bag, genie out of the bottle, can’t put the toothpaste bag in the tube... but the gist is that they played this lockdown card with ulterior motives... not necessarily public safety. Now they can’t turn around and say it isnt the right thing to do when the next outbreak occurs... which is inevitable, been happening as long as humans have existed.

Smart businesses will take this along with all the other excellent reasons for local manufacturing into account. The time for cheap third world labor should be coming to an end... for too many reasons.
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 @Baller7756: Yeah man. We should get a good sense of what this looks like in the Fall/Winter this year as we see a spike in respiratory illnesses (including "covid"), as we have since forever. But consider this, right now, the UK is in the top 3 of countries with the highest vaccination rates (close to 70%). Their case positivity rate is below 5%. Deaths and hospitalizations have tanked. Yet the UK is STILL locked down and many localities have pushed off their re-openings. Canada is similar. Areas like New Zealand are going to be really interesting since they're now facing quite the dilemma. They never defeated Covid. Covid is coming for New Zealand and Australia. The question is when? As (some of) the world opens up, what do they do? Stay closed or open up? If they open up, they get covid. It's inevitable and, most importantly, their population has virtually now exposure to covid. So do they just keep locked down?

The point is, if we still have this level of paranoia about covid and lockdown obsession now (when the risk has been incredibly mitigated) what are they going to do come flu [covid] season? As you rightly point out, are they just going to say "woops, sorry about that whole 2020 thing, this time is different, because reasons"? Quite the dilemma, the solution for which is unclear to me.

I agree. Wise companies should at least be exploring SOME domestic/regional manufacturing capacity. This is not to say close up shop in Asia and GO USA!!! However, wise companies will take a hard look at Covid and come away concerned about the future of intl trade - at least as we know it.
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 @monkey-man: no one "deserves" a job. not you, not me, not a random asian guy.
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 Doubt it will be an issue. Plenty of retailers have mainstream drivetrain components in stock. I think only the low end components are in lower supply.
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 Ltwoo Brute... I know it doesn't makes Sensah
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 We need more gearboxes
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 Welcome to genetically modified world!
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 I'll never get my 2022 fat bike this winter!
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 Nooo, more sram NX bikes. Frick i want slx bikes!
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 Can I buy $SRAM stocks?
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 single speed FTW!
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 so all low end shimano made in malaysia? isnt that everything they make?
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