Spotted: Prototype Specialized Enduro? - Crankworx Whistler 2019

Aug 10, 2019
by Mike Levy  
Specialized Enduro


Our photographers spotted something new under Specialized's enduro team during practice at the Whistler EWS. Specialized has been giving their mountain bike range a bit of an overhaul over as of late, with new hardtails, trail bikes, and even a completely re-designed downhill sled arriving recently. All that's left to do is a new Enduro platform, which is what we might be looking at here from the sixth round of the Enduro World Series in Whistler, BC.

The bike's black and white wrap job, something usually seen on unreleased cars that companies really don't want you to take photos of, is intended to confuse a camera's autofocus system. There's no mistaking where it came from, though, with a few different prototypes being ridden by Specialized's employees and racers.

Oh, and it sure looks like their new downhill bike, doesn't it?


2018 Specialized Enduro
Specialized Enduro
The 2018 Enduro (left) debuted during Crankworx two years ago. Is the black and white prototype (right) its replacement?


Rather than go with a single-sided seat mast as they did on the latest Stumpjumper, the prototype sees its shock mounted low in the frame but still activated by a Horst Link design. The layout resembles their new, 200mm-travel Demo, albeit a bit more compact, and Specialized's riders are using both air and coil-sprung shocks on the new bike. That new Demo sports an axle path with a few more millimeters of rearward travel than the previous version, as well as more progression, more anti-squat, and more anti-rise.

We'll have to wait and see if the all-new Enduro, if that's what we're looking at here, gets the same more, more, more, and more treatment as well.


Specialized Enduro
2020 Specialized Demo
The prototype looks a lot like a downsized Demo.


Suspension travel? It's likely somewhere around 160mm. Wheel size? It looks like a 29er to me, but that doesn't mean Specialized won't offer it with both 27.5'' and 29'' wheels, just like they do with the current Enduro. More details when we get them.

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212 Comments
  • 164 2
 @mikelevy "is intended to confuse a camera's autofocus system" Nope, actually the high contrast dazzle/ zebra makes it easier for a camera's auto focus system, auto focus systems love contrast. The reason for the high contrast small patterns is to disguise the surfacing/ aka styling of the car. Having those patterns makes it harder to see the shadows and highlights that are normally very apparent on a car and visually tell you what how the body panels are styled.
  • 59 0
 The fact that we have a 100% focused photo in the article would seem consistent with your theory that use of the striped wrap has nothing to do with trying to confuse a camera's autofocus system.
  • 18 0
 For real and not like the AF is gonna miss the human being atop said bike too... that is unless they also camo wrap the rider haha
  • 144 0
 It’s covered in camo to alert journalists to take a photo!
  • 28 0
 If it was labelled normally less people would notice
  • 11 1
 If you head over to Vitalmtb they have had pics of it since Wednesday, they also have pics of it without the stickers and with S-Works on the downtube.
  • 2 0
 @heavyp: link? Can’t see it.
  • 20 1
 @makripper: no kidding!

Paint it matte black.
Better yet- paint it bright glossy red and apply Trek Session decals.
  • 16 0
 @TripFontane: m.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/New-Specialized-enduro-Potato-cam,10630

Scroll down and all the frames and bikes are there too from the catalog
  • 9 0
 It's called 'Dazzle' and was used in WW1 and WW2 on warships to confuse the enemy spotters' distance and depth perception. I think a british pop artist at the time is credited with its conception.
  • 2 16
flag the-burd (Aug 10, 2019 at 22:42) (Below Threshold)
 @heavyp: Don't see it either. Link or you are deemed mistaken.
  • 7 0
 In this case I'd hazard that the B&W decals are there to draw attention to the bike while pretending that it's a secret. But more importantly, is that a yoke at the rear of the shock still?
  • 8 0
 Not a Prototype. Should be out before the month is over. Dealers have info already.
  • 1 0
 @add1cted: exactly. Was around well before cars and autofocus cameras.
  • 1 1
 Maybe what Mike meant to say was that it makes it harder to use the focus guide in viewfinder of a analog non-autofocus camera. Not sure what it is called, but on my Minolta X-700 there is a bit in the middle of the viewfinder where the light gets diffracted differently and you have to adjust focus until everything aligns again. Paint pattern (or colorways in PB lingo) used here makes it harder to use that function.

Just looking for something in Mike's defense.
  • 1 0
 @chakaping: No more yoke on the 2020 Enduro. That is a double dog-bone that bolts through a standard lower shock mount.
  • 133 11
 Specialized: "Hey Santa Cruz, can I copy your homework?"
Santa Cruz: "Sure, just change it up a bit here and there."
Specialized: "You got it!"
  • 43 4
 Stolenized
  • 5 3
 @B650wagon: Come to think of it, also somewhat reminiscent of a GT Sanction.
  • 8 3
 I think it's not so much Santa Cruz than what you find on many dirt bikes, except on mtb you have the seat post right where you would ideally put the shock.
  • 15 2
 Santalized.
  • 27 28
 There is zero Santa Cruz on this bike. Totally different suspension system.
  • 1 0
 Biggest downtube bash guard in the business!
  • 4 4
 @DavidGuerra: it doesn't have to have the same pivot location to "look" the same.
  • 6 5
 @Ron-C: It doesn't look the same either
  • 7 4
 So check this out...shocks are getting longer so it makes sense to get the shock down low, also for a good center of graviity. Santa Cruz was the first to do it...who cares.
  • 11 6
 SC is VPP. Spesh is still FSR. Look at the details. Even if they look similar, they ride quite differently.
  • 4 1
 @dyalnger9: Not the first. Far from it!
  • 3 1
 Mega Enduro
  • 2 12
flag notthatfast (Aug 11, 2019 at 0:02) (Below Threshold)
 @gabriel-mission9: It looks like shit either way
  • 2 1
 @jorgeposada: Canyon Spectral wins the biggest downtube bash guard by a long shot
  • 6 0
 If anything, its most similar to the original enduro sx (2005'ish). I dont think a low slung linkage is something you should really attribute to Santa Cruz. If anything, they've always had pretty high suspension linkages Smile
  • 4 0
 My shock always hangs low.
  • 6 0
 @Ron-C: Yeah, a cat can "look" like a dog if they both have collars. The collar here is that hole on the seat tube. They're still cats and dogs, you can't compare a FSR with a VPP.
  • 8 0
 Llamas have ears. Sheep also have ears. Clearly the exactly same animal. Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @jorgeposada: lucky bastard.
  • 2 0
 My thoughts exactly.
  • 3 0
 And then Specialized sues Santa Cruz...
  • 53 1
 Funny how there is a media ban on the new Enduro but PB shows a spyshot. This is all staged for media hype, RMB is going to release the new Slayer on the 12th and the new Enduro on the 13th. Bike looks great and I hope it has the geometry dialed like the EVO Stumpy
  • 57 1
 These photos have been floating around for a while. It's likely a case of PB waiting for Specialized to give them the thumbs up on running photos. This is an advertisement.
  • 3 1
 @sherbet: yeah the early alu prototypes from months ago to more recently the s works at North star. Its old news. I can't wait to see the numbers. I'm guessing close to the new reign numbers but a degree slacker ha
  • 8 1
 @sherbet: there were spy photos on MTBR but got taken down very quickly. Now it's open season to hype up the hype.
  • 5 0
 Enough people saw them that a few have even ended up in the comment section of this post.There's been photos on PB for a bit as well. We don't name our threads "PROTO SPY SHOTS 2020 ENDURO" so they tend to not get deleted.
  • 7 0
 @jaydawg69 No kidding! Love how in the first photo, the big S is perfectly placed with the water bottle
  • 1 9
flag the-burd (Aug 10, 2019 at 22:45) (Below Threshold)
 Lol, dialed. 66 hta is dialed. 64 is extreme.
  • 5 2
 @the-burd: 66 hta is for XC... 63 is so nice.
  • 1 0
 I like the details about wheelpath and progression opposed to the open questions about wheel size... Prime journalism, LOL!
  • 1 0
 @Happymtbfr: has to be more linear curve if it's running an air shock. Unfortunately they seem to be going that route. Wheel path should be similar to demo, more strait up and rearward
  • 26 2
 @sherbet @jaydawg69 that's not really how it works.

When a brand invites us to a launch, we send an editor, who is siloed off from the rest of the team on that product and we respect a brand's embargo date in regards to the information that editor has. That's controversial to some, but the alternative would be that we wouldn't have ride impressions or reviews ready to go at launch on new bikes.

BUT, if a new bike is spotted in public, especially at a major event, of course the rest of my team is tasked with digging into it and sharing the photos. That's our job.

Did Specialized want to get spotted? Probably. I didn't get an angry call from them. So hey we're all playing the game, but we didn't get a conference call from Sinyard with instructions to release the photos like you're suggesting. Smile
  • 5 2
 @brianpark: good to know from PB side but why didn't the previous leaked photos not show up on front page months ago? Leaked photos from the media camp ended up on MTBR forum (2x) and both threads got taken down. A forum user screen grabbed the photo and put it up on his Instagram and got a nasty message from Specialized. I suspect PB knew when to release the spy photos.
  • 4 0
 @brianpark: Really appreciate you weighing in on this man. Sorry for being cynical, and keep up the good work!
  • 5 1
 @jaydawg69: we didn’t take those photos. The images in this article were fair and square by our photographers at a public global event.
  • 1 0
 @there is a difference between leaked pics that probably shouldnt have been taken and a bike being ridden at a major international event..
  • 2 3
 @zyoungson: leaked photos were from a public place. It's just a silly marketing game played on both sides.
  • 44 1
 It’s Camouflaged so I can’t see it...
  • 32 12
 that's good cause it is pretty ugly
  • 5 3
 @LuvAZ: i still love it though. it's probably cause i loved my demo9 so much. swoon
  • 20 0
 Should learn from Japan on censoring content.
  • 6 2
 @LuvAZ: That's interesting. To my eyes it looks pretty clean. The shock position kinda resembles my Druid. Then again, there are some who are of the view that the Druid is butt ugly too. So I guess, as always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I may be in a camp of one on this, but I actually think this new Enduro (assuming this IS the new Enduro) is a HUGE improvement looks-wise over the current gen model. From what I can see, I like it.
  • 12 7
 @mtnbkrmike: Are you mental?! Specialized have been making more and more elegant bikes over the years, the current stumpy is probably the best looking bike out there in my view, the previous demo is up there too and the current enduro is a nicely styled and detailed frame. This thing looks like a 90s giant and the latest DH bike certainly isn't nice to look at either!
  • 3 0
 It looks exactly like a scaled down version of their proven new DH bike. Honestly I'm drooling at seeing some actual specs and if I have to sell my other kidney.
  • 5 1
 @jorgeposada Shouldn’t of spent your entire MLB earnings on steroids brotha Wink
  • 1 1
 @snowwcold55: If I had any idea what your ghonnarhea ridden mind was talking bout maybe I would be able to respond. See how that works.
  • 3 2
 @pbuser2299: I think the current demo is one of the better looking bikes out there, 27.5 demo and stumpy not so much, each to their own..
  • 41 2
 p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2019/08/08/8329/s1200_as32fdf23fse3r2.jpg


cough cough
  • 15 0
 thanks! sadly, the photo is shot on the new potato X
  • 19 0
 @pascalchristen: it's probably enough to make someone lose their job
  • 1 0
 @colincolin: indeed it is, much appreciated though
  • 1 1
 No aluminium option ????
  • 2 1
 Nice potato pic but it’s enough to prove this is the new 2020 model !!!!
  • 45 14
 Yes it is. They were testing it in Sweden some time ago. The only question is... is it long and slack enough for wokeasfuk real engineers who come to Pinkbike only to talk down to keyboard engineers...
  • 6 5
 There is no such thing as long enough or slack enough ????
  • 26 0
 I’ll take your long and slack and raise you a proprietary axle standard and 1/4mm metric shock
  • 5 5
 @sewer-rat: metric wheelsize would be balls. 650mm which would roughly make a thirty-incher.
  • 1 0
 Hahahahaha
  • 3 1
 @fartymarty: I have a stumpy evo. It’s too low lol. Slackness in high is OK, it’s also longer in wheelbase than my xl demo8. It’s an incredible bike but it’s possibly too bananas in the geo department for Australian trails.
  • 1 0
 @Brasher: I was being sarcastic (my ;P emoji ended up as 4?)
  • 23 0
 If the guy in the pic has to use the brakes, then how good can it really be?
  • 6 2
 Brakes are for shitty bikes, it is known
  • 16 0
 Better disguise the bike... yep zebra ish print will work.. perfect!
  • 7 0
 this water bottle and riders with Specialized gear on wont give it away at all.
  • 18 5
 I will miss the iconic X frame of the previous models. The new one somehow seems uninspired.
  • 4 2
 Yeah actually I was really hoping they would keep the X frame design for the new ones, but alas.
  • 3 2
 @seraph: that's why I got a 2019!
  • 5 3
 I saw the official catalogue photos and I don't really like it. Especially that link that drives the shock looks really ugly. That's disappointing considering that I was eagerly waiting for some time.
  • 8 1
 "More details when we get them. "

You have the press release and you were at the same launch we were at, along with the rest of the world's media. The rest of us agreed to the Specialized embargo of the 13th. We could have run with this story early too, but we didn't because we ALL agreed to the embargo date.
  • 15 4
 Looks like a Megatower
  • 1 7
flag dylangreen91 (Aug 10, 2019 at 16:08) (Below Threshold)
 maybe because all new bikes have meteric long shocks
  • 9 0
 For only $10,000...you too could be the proud owner of a zebra.
  • 3 0
 Unfortunately it's the new norm.
  • 9 1
 That downtube is big enough to stuff a battery into. Marin mt. vision has some e-bike look-alike competition
  • 1 6
flag zyoungson (Aug 10, 2019 at 19:23) (Below Threshold)
 Has to be massive for the stash box that nobody uses..
  • 4 1
 You obviously haven’t paid attention to the current carbon Slash. That’s a one giant down tube, it’s just that unlike Spec bikes, you can’t stash anything in it. Even in the Trek called Stache.
  • 6 1
 I loved the X-Wing, personally. Ah well. Still can't afford one; who am I to comment on the new Demo/Gambler/Legend etc look? And the proto car zebra wrap. Lol. Cool bike. Smile
  • 11 0
 I think the x wing was one of the better mtb frame designs in recent years, it did a lot of things well, like shock position for climb levers, frame strength, space for a bottle, and the shock yoke to dodge the seat tube, at a time when there were some strange designs trying to get a shock and seat tube in the same area. People may dislike spesh for various reasons but they do come up with some good ideas.
  • 5 2
 I'm in Whistler and I heard one of the reasons they went with this design is because its more e bike compatible. This will be the new design for the next version of the Kenevo, and it will have a double crown fork! Watch the big props stack up for this big news!
  • 8 2
 Looks like a Nomad... but sick !!
  • 2 0
 Beer anyone? I mean with all this chatter about a prototype isn't anyone thirsty? 2020 is mear months away and who knows what dizzying tech or abject silliness any of these folks will release and honestly unless you're a (waaaait fooooor iiit...) ... dentist, you probably aren't buying a lot of $4k on up bikes like a new pair of shoes anyway so why does it matter?
I'm saving for a new bike now and really excited to see what 2030 brings as it will take me that long to scrounge up that much with a family, mortgage, car payments, and life Smile In the meantime who wants a beer?
  • 2 1
 ....maybe if you spent less on buying people beers???
  • 2 1
 @jason475: beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy AND is less expensive than a $4k bike Smile
  • 6 1
 Hope they sell it with the same paint job
  • 5 0
 Specialized...either fucking gorgeous or completely hideous!
  • 6 1
 Comes out on monday. 170mm f/r 29er only.
  • 2 0
 Comes out on Tuesday, 29in wheel only I believe. There have been pictures out for some time now. On specialized Instagram they had a video leaking the bike and a date flashing very quickly. The date was Tuesday.
  • 1 0
 Nooooo FSR was so good, easy to service great bolts and awesome ride! seems as if the new demo is heading to the look of its former 2013 counterpart which isnt a bad thing long and low just how we all like it!
  • 9 6
 Rear brake lever pulled all the way to the bar, wheel still in motion...nice one Shimano.
  • 8 1
 From the Deore XT model up , you can do that with your Shimano brakes... I can adjust my Saints so it does not lock up under load, but if you unweight the rear of the bike it still locks up. Less skidding, faster times.
  • 1 0
 @Gruta: well there's my problem I guess, this college boy only just bought M7000s for the first time...they f*cking suck, I want my M615 Deores back, better in every way except probably weight.

How do you adjust them like that? Is it something with the (apparently nonfunctional) freestroke adjustment? Do you just pour mineral oil on your pads?
  • 1 0
 @mnorris122: The freestroke adjustment works fine on mine...
  • 2 0
 @Gruta: I believe that makes you what they call an "outlier".
  • 1 0
 @mnorris122: Smile
  • 4 1
 Liking that low shock placement. Hopefully add an inch or more rear travel.
  • 1 0
 Yeah.. It's better for the center of gravity. Commencal pls bring back the V3s!
  • 3 0
 @cyclingfirst: how can it be for centre of gravity if you move water bottle (which is heavier than the shock) up and front? Also, SWAT compartment is much higher too. I personally think that new link design just allows them to get better suspension performance, there is only so much you can get out of the X-link design over the years.
  • 1 0
 @ciechan: previously rearshock is moved closer to the top tube so riders can do any adjustments on-the-fly. Maybe right now they don't need to do any adjustments anymore.
  • 5 1
 @cyclingfirst: lowering the center of gravity of a frame is marketing BS from Spec from a few years ago. Iimagine that the whole bike weighs like 35lbs and the only thing you move an inch down or so is a shock weighing no more than 2lbs. Much more perceivable change would be lowering the BB.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Lowering cg does make a difference, go ride a giant dh comp from around 2005 and you will know.
  • 3 1
 @zyoungson: yeah BB is up in the sky. I wrote about it that moving BB down even a little makes a difference. Moving the 2lbs shock in a 35lbs bike by an inch down does nothing. It moves the COM of the bike down by like 1/4”, good luck experiencing that.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: so ride an MX 2-stroke bike and then 4-stroke with the same frame, suspension etc - the only difference is in 2-stroke lack of heavy timing & valve systems on top of the engine. The difference in the steering and feel is massive. And we are talking about 2kg difference on 100kg bike Wink
  • 1 0
 @ciechan: Motorbike is (hopefully) 10-20% heavier than the rider, whereas mountain bike weighs barely 1/4 of risers weight. Also can’t comment on motorbikes, don’t rise them and they have engine in the middle providing gyroscopic effect affecting handling.
  • 4 3
 Yea scans of the 2020 brochure showing this bike in sworks, elite and expert (and frameset) all over the facebook specialized forums.

29er only. Which is good because it means I’m not interested.
  • 1 0
 Link, and no alloy option?
  • 3 0
 @zyoungson: uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190809/dc9dc3673e6ac735f48d94f0c4d5bb1e.jpg
  • 2 0
 In other news how is someone racing an EWS wearing cotton socks? I get that Vans are cool and all but gosh dang that sounds like a chaffing nightmare
  • 3 2
 hey big s...please note that your team riders don’t ride those garbage Roval wheels (along with these testers). Time to move on from them. They where the reason I choose another brand in my last purchase.
  • 1 0
 I have Rovals on both my enduro and DH bikes and I can't complain at all! Quite idiotproof, just tighten a spoke or two every few rides and they are mint.
  • 1 1
 I'm sure there is sound engineering behind the concept of lowering the shock position and thus moving the center of gravity lower, but it doesn't make for nice looking bikes. Cue Santa Cruz.
  • 1 0
 I would argue that it's for CG purposes, I think it's more to do with complete linkage redesign, there is so much more you can do with 'new' linkage. And yes, CG is going to be lowered by lower shock position but straight away it all going away when there is 0.85kg of water positioned over the shock and much to the front of the bike.
  • 3 2
 Air shocks weigh next to nothing, aside from some linkage there is not a lot of weight down there. I would say the old bike with a full bottle would have a better cg.
  • 3 0
 Release date should be on 13th I heard.
  • 2 1
 Calling it now, spesh will offer a wheel size in between 27 & 29" and will be able to use on this bike in the next year or 2
  • 6 3
 Rejoice, not a sram component in sight!
  • 4 1
 Change is good but the old version looks much better.
  • 2 2
 What I really want is two more linkages to service so I can spend more time tinkering.
Specialized: sure, no problem. Do you want then to be spayed with mud during every ride?
  • 2 1
 Specialized bikes used to be the nicest ones out there, but the new Demo and this new Enduro are looking like a step back to the 2011...
  • 1 0
 Spotted Curtis Keene and specialized bro on these in the lift lines last week, I was surprised there were no spy shots. I figured that pinkbike was more in the fray than not
  • 1 0
 I wonder why this link has still so little views: www.youtube.com/watch?v=lExRsnHZHL8
maybe due to no camo Wink
  • 1 0
 pretty funny actually
  • 2 0
 Any hope they follow suit on the DH bike and release an aluminum version?
  • 1 0
 these pics were getting taken down from mtbr two weeks ago. i guess it's kosher now. "spotted" lol
  • 2 0
 Will spesh make a 27.5 Dh this year?
  • 2 0
 Looks like an E bike that bred with a Zebra.
  • 3 0
 zebrike
  • 4 4
 WOW, that doesnt look AT ALL like the Santa Cruz lower link bikes... just like how Specialized copied the Orbea Rallon with the Stumpjumper.
  • 1 0
 I hope one of their designers looks at that bike and realises they need to work out a better way to mount a garmin
  • 1 0
 Stoked to see the Float X2 fits in there. From the other pictures it looks like it will support a coil as well.
  • 1 0
 Hopefully there will be an aluminium version of this, or even an alloy frameset? adjustable stays? dreams are free..
  • 1 0
 They could have dropped the top tube like the dh bike and still have space for a bottle, but no..
  • 1 0
 Hard say from these shots, but I'd be worried about limited seat post lenghts due to shock placement. Hope I'm wrong!
  • 3 0
 Definitely an e bike
  • 1 0
 That looks awesome! I really like how it looks like a mini Demo. I wonder how much travel it’ll have?
  • 2 1
 170 frt and rear travel, carbon and 29 only. No aluminum or 27.5. ????
  • 1 0
 Mtb beds spotted this a few days ago
  • 1 0
 Am I seeing things or does this "enduro" have a lower link?
  • 1 0
 Apparently they are being released tomorrow
  • 1 0
 visit specialized page to see the new 2020 enduro, its online Smile
  • 1 0
 S-works model available on Specialized's site.
  • 2 1
 I hope they do an EVO version, wonder if that could be in the cards?
  • 13 3
 It would be called Endemo and I would respect that
  • 4 1
 Never go full Endemo!
  • 1 0
 DEMdurO
  • 1 0
 Dammit that demo looks delicious..
  • 2 1
 I read somewhere talk of HT in the 62°+/-range...
  • 3 10
flag Mondbiker (Aug 10, 2019 at 13:14) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah from specialized? Dream on.
  • 9 1
 @Mondbiker: they made a stumpy with 63.5°. Not exactly ludicrous to think the new Enduro wouldn’t push that.
  • 4 12
flag Mondbiker (Aug 10, 2019 at 13:34) (Below Threshold)
 @jeremiahwas: they don´t make DH bike much slacker than that ad are one of if not the most conservative brands out there, also trying to push total BS geometry trends forward, remember those oh my good short chanistays?
  • 5 3
 @Mondbiker: Well regardless, I don’t actually care one way or another - just thought it was interesting. And the short chain stays on the Enduro were great on my local trails.
  • 3 9
flag Mondbiker (Aug 10, 2019 at 13:50) (Below Threshold)
 @jeremiahwas: everything is great if you haven´t tried something better.
  • 7 1
 @Mondbiker: considering the Stumpy Evo’s geometry it’s not unlikely.
  • 3 7
flag Mondbiker (Aug 10, 2019 at 14:05) (Below Threshold)
 @kipvr: considering Demo geometry and small fact that there is only one brand out there using 62 something deg head angles I found it absolutely impossible. And considering they were persuading their customers that long low and slack doesn´t work for years doesn´t make it any more likely either.
  • 5 1
 @Mondbiker: ok if you say so.
  • 4 2
 @Mondbiker: Current demo is 62.7 and has won 3 world cups this year. Wait till next week, the new enduro is slacker and longer than the megatower by a significant margin.
  • 10 0
 @Mondbiker: I didn’t want the new Enduro to be 62° until I saw how sure you are it won’t be.
  • 2 0
 @Mondbiker: Heard of Nicolai?? 62.5 standard, 61.1 slackest setting
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vTRjaqKHseps-MRu6fK_ZK7W5MiWtrHsUC3qD3jNJPzluLyCmkWYcnLpRzDeydNhQMZc8tSzODOP9Y6/pubhtml
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 @Demoguy: read the whole damn conversation please. And yeah I´ve heard of nicolai, I have one g16 parked next door.
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 @danefalberg: like megatower is game changer in any way lol, this whole debate is about enduro being slacker than SJ evo, which it won´t be and it won´t be even close to getting sub 63deg. You won´t have to wait too long to find out...
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 @Mondbiker: Don't need to read all your one sided bullshit conversation. You said "there is only one brand using 62 something deg head angles" clearly that's not the case here...
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 @Demoguy: You aren´t genius are you? So what other brand uses sub 63deg HA on enduro bike, I will patiently wait for your answer.
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 @Mondbiker: BTR Fab Belter @ 61 deg. Otherwise the closest might be the Pole Stamina.
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 @Demoguy: well one could say that belter isn´t exactly in the same category as the other bikes mentioned here is it? And stamina has the same HA as SJ EVO.
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 Banshee should of done it years ago but anyway. Their loss.
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 Why didn’t you just ask the guy - he’s right there.
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 Stock with the Swedish shock?
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 Looks like a Santa Cruz Enduro.
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 Already 2020 enduro specs models with dealers if you ask
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 Fugly. I was hoping for more. Just looks like a Santa Cruz crib-off. I'll stick with my 2017 Enduro. Works fine.
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 Here’s Curtis Keene on it...

www.instagram.com/p/B1BvK6eDmyx
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 its on the specialized website 29" only at the minute
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 Soooo, how´s that ultra slack head angle thing going?
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 Can't wait!
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 Mini Legend
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 Actually that's what I thought it was at first when I saw it. When I looked closer though, you can see the FSR linkage. Its definitely an interesting design. Not sure about the main pivot in front if the BB though, but may provide a more vertical axle path. Either way, in speaking with Fin, they seem pretty stoked on the design, but still has a few bugs to work out of the kinematics.
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 @jomacba: yeah, we know it should be virtual pivot instead to top up the magic
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 I'll still never buy one zzzzzzz
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 #lookslikeademo
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 Megatower wannabe
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 Nice Bronson / Megatower
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 Its the Specialized Cruz Megaenduro
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 “Looks like a nomad”
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 Looks like a nomad?
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 Looks like a Santa Cruz.....
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 And the Santas look like old Demos or what?
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 No.
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flag scotttherider FL (Aug 10, 2019 at 15:11) (Below Threshold)
 @NotNamed: not in the slightest. Looks extremely similar to the new nomads and high towers.
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 all new bikes with long meteric shocks are either vertical like a Transition or through the seat tube
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 looks like a Nomad Big Grin
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 Looks like a Nomad.
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