Specialized S-Works Enduro 29 - Reviewed

Apr 21, 2014
by Mike Levy  

REVIEWED
Specialized
S-Works Enduro 29

WORDS Mike Levy
PHOTOS Colin Meagher


One might easily assume that designing and assembling a mountain bike that retails for over nine grand and offers out of this world performance would be an easy task. After all, it must be pretty straightforward, right? All you have to do is take your top tier carbon frame, throw the best of the best suspension on it, some ultra light wheels and the latest drivetrain and you should have a winner straight out of the box. But hold on a sec, don't a handful of companies already do exactly that yet manage to fall short in one area or another, automatically relegating their headliner as a close-but-no-cigar bike with an insane sticker price? The issue is that when a bike has an MSRP of $9,250 USD like the S-Works Enduro 29 reviewed here, it's expected to be perfect. Maybe even better than perfect. There can't be any place to upgrade outside of personal preferences, and it has to deliver the kind of on-trail feelings that are on par with watching your first child being born or defusing a bomb with only a few seconds remaining on the clock. Maybe some slight exaggerations there, but not much if you're the guy walking out of the shop with your own shiny new S-Works machine.

Specialized has gone all out with their class topping, 155mm travel S-Works Enduro 29: carbon fiber wheels, a RockShox Pike and Cane Creek DBair CS shock, as well as an XX1 drivetrain, and it's all hung off a carbon fiber frame that features some clever talking points that we'll cover below. And speaking of the bike's tech and spec, the S-Works Enduro 29 must be held to a higher standard on the trail due to all of the above and the price tag that goes along with it, so we went into our time on it with exactly that sort of mindset. How did it fare? Read on to find out.


S-Works Enduro 29 Details

• Intended use: all-mountain / enduro
• Wheel size: 29''
• Rear wheel travel: 155mm
• Carbon fiber front triangle
• FSR rear suspension
• RockShox RCT3 29 fork, 160mm
• Cane Creek DBair CS shock
• Roval Traverse SL 29 carbon wheelset
• Weight: 27.1lbs (w/o pedals)
• MSRP: $9,250 USD








Specialized's eight model Enduro lineup includes both 26" and 29" variants, carbon or aluminum frames, and also an Evo platform that sports added travel, burlier components, and both slacker and lower geometry. So while it's fair to say that the Enduro range is more Brady Bunch in size than what many companies offer, it is also clear that they are all bikes that are intended to be ridden over or off nearly anything on the trail. At the same time, though, Specialized has made alterations over the years to improve their pedalling abilities in an effort to create bikes that aren't thought of as one trick ponies. It's the Enduro 29 that is the most interesting in the pack to us because, after having spent plenty of time on 26" wheeled Enduro platforms in the past, we're curious to find out if Specialized has been able to deliver those capabilities to their new big-wheeler.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher
  The E29s carbon front triangle sees brake, shift, and dropper seat post lines all routed along the underside of the down tube, while its aluminum rear end measures just 430mm.


Frame Details

It all starts with the bike's FACT IS-X 11m carbon frame that consists of a number of different monocoque units, a manufacturing method that Specialized says ''allows the carbon fibers to run continuously from tube to tube, offering advantages in weight, stiffness, and strength.'' The finished product offers an impressive amount of stand over height, especially for a 29er with 155mm of travel, and an appearance that should win over pretty much anybody. The big talking point with the E29 platform is just how short Specialized's engineers have been able to make the bike's chain stays - just 430mm / 16.9''. That's damn short for any 29er, let alone one with the amount of travel that the E29 offers. Hell, there's a good chance that number is smaller than what your 26" wheeled bike can claim to have. Sure, it is true that having the outright shortest back end shouldn't be the goal of every design, but reining in the tail of a long travel 29er has certainly shown to improve its performance in many areas. How did Specialized do it? By looking at every frame element that has an effect on chain stay length, including obvious things such as seat tube placement (it's been shifted forward for added tire clearance), to other bits that only an engineer might pick up on: the subtly shaped bridge on the underside of the seat stays that just clears the front triangle on compression, shaping to the chain stays that allows for high volume tires despite the tight confines near the bottom bracket, and the removable 'Taco Blade' front derailleur mounting point that is shoehorned into place just forward of the tire. That's a whole lot of effort considering that it isn't like anyone would complain if the bike had 10mm of length added to its chain stays, but Specialized knew how they wanted the E29 to handle and put in quite a bit of work to make it happen.

The S-Works E29 frame can also tick off all of the requisite features: a stubby tapered head tube, ISCG 05 chain guide tabs, room for a full sized water bottle (something that isn't as common as you might think), and internal routing for its Command Post dropper. It also sports '142+' dropouts that Specialized says makes for a more rigid combination of frame and wheel components. In a nutshell, the bike's Roval Traverse SL rear hub features end caps that allow for a slightly wider hub stance that, along with the 12mm thru-axle, is claimed to offer added stiffness.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher
  The bike's 155mm of rear wheel travel is controlled via a Horst Link layout.


Specialized employs their own FSR branded Horst Link layout across the board on their full-suspension bikes, with everything from the big travel Demo to the whispy Epic cross-country weapon using a variation of the design, each tuned according to the bike's intentions, and that's exactly what you'll find on the 155m travel Enduro 29 platform. The layout isn't exactly the same as what's been used on past Enduros, though, with it evolving to both match the larger wheel size and address some shortcomings of the older system, mainly pedalling feel - there are near countless possibilities when it comes to pivot locations and how they effect the bike's performance, and Specialized has slightly modified those in order to build-in more "jump" when on the gas.


Specifications
Release Date 2014
Price $9250
Travel 155mm
Rear Shock Cane Creek DBair CS
Fork RockShox Pike RCT3 29, 160mm
Cassette SRAM XX1, 11-speed, 10-42
Crankarms SRAM XX1
Bottom Bracket SRAM PF30
Rear Derailleur SRAM XX1, 11-speed
Chain SRAM XX1, 11-speed
Shifter Pods SRAM XX1, 11-speed
Handlebar Specialized XC Mini-Riser, 7050 alloy, 750mm wide, 10mm rise, 8-backsweep, 6-upsweep, 31.8mm
Stem Syntace F109
Grips Specialized Sip Grip
Brakes Avid X0 Trail
Wheelset Roval Traverse SL 29 Carbon
Tires Specialized Butcher Control, Purgatory Control
Seat Body Geometry Henge Expert, Ti rails, 143mm
Seatpost Specialized Command Post IR
Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher






Riding the
Enduro



Climbing / Acceleration: We've spent time on a handful of bikes in the same travel bracket as the S-Works E29 that have all surprised us with their ascending abilities - two recent examples being the Mondraker Dune and its 10mm stem for not handling like a downhill bike in a parking lot on technical pitches, and Rocky Mountain's Altitude 770 MSL Rally Edition for its gecko-like traction - and it's fair to say that the bar has been raised substantially compared to what used to be considered acceptable climbing manners for a bike with such travel. It's the E29 that repositions that same bar a few steps higher still, though, by offering ultra alert and on-point handling that is in complete contrast to its downhill manners. Simply put, in the context of other 150 - 160mm travel bikes, the E29 is able to make a unicycle feel like it has sluggish handling, with the black and white bike not running out of room on tight switchbacks like most, if not all, of its peers do. As you might expect, this leads to having to pay less attention to setting up for a steep uphill hairpin - you know the drill: look way ahead, start as far outside as you can before cutting in, and move your hips around like its your wedding night, all to fight those relaxed angles. There's very little of that with the Enduro, as it lets you concentrate on taking more speed up and through challenges. And that's where the E29 shines, by letting you carry more momentum up those tricky sections not because it pedals better (it certainly doesn't, by the way), but because it handles so well exactly where you don't expect it to. So much so, in fact, that you'll find yourself going quicker than you probably deserve to.
bigquotesMost bikes with the travel of the E29 ask you to slow down when the climbs get techy, to be a little picky about where you're pointing, and to not expect miracles, but the S-Works machine is like the girlfriend that whispers in your ear in the heat of the moment to go ahead, letting you know that you can get away with anything at this very moment.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher
  Aim high because you'll likely get there if you're aboard the E29. The S-Works Enduro earned its 'Mountain Bike of the Year' honours not only because it descends like a demon, but because it also climbs like one.


Traction is also readily on tap, due it large part to the short chain stays and the bike's Cane Creek DBair CS shock that works to keep the rear tire in contact with the ground, but you also need to know that setting your sag correctly on a bike like the Enduro 29 is more important than on something of less travel... too much and you'll be throwing all of the praise talked about above out the window by both slackening out the already slack head angle and lowering the already low bottom bracket past any sort of useful positions. Get it right and you'll be on your way. Most bikes with the travel of the E29 ask you to slow down when the climbs get techy, to be a little picky about where you're pointing, and to not expect miracles, but the the S-Works machine is like the girlfriend that whispers in your ear in the heat of the moment to go ahead, letting you know that you can get away with anything at this very moment. You'll feel like a champ during such times, but, just as with other times in life, things aren't so pretty when the lights get turned on. In the E29's case the lights get flicked on during smoother climbs, and it's moments when you're able to think more about pedalling circles than not clipping your pedals on a root or rock that you realize it doesn't exactly jump forward with any sort of real zip. There are bikes with similar travel that feel more alive during such times - Banshee's Rune or the new Slash come to mind - but flipping the shock's CS lever does add some needed zest to its on-power performance.



Downhill / Technical Riding: Long travel 29ers are cumbersome. They aren't playful. When the trail gets tight, they handle like an Airbus A380 taxiing through downtown Los Angeles. And so on and so forth. That's the common assumption anyways, and while it's entirely correct in many cases, it couldn't be further from the truth when talking about the S-Works Enduro 29. The fact of the matter is that this bike can be as accommodating as any mid-travel 26" wheeled rig that we've ever spent time on, and you don't have to strangle it by its neck when you want to move it from one place on the trail to another, even if it seems like physics should keep it from happening. It's much like its longer travel brother, the Demo, in that it's far more nimble than should be possible. This can obviously lead to the kinds of movements that serious riders (otherwise known as boring riders) might call wasteful, but those who perhaps hoot and holler more often might refer to as fun. We like this whole concept of having fun, but we also like how the same handling traits lead to some great performance when things get slow and tricky. Cumbersome? Hell no. This bike can bob and weave like an aerobatic plane whose pilot maybe did a line or two of gutter glitter before lifting off. This is the antithesis of most mid-travel travel 29ers, with Diamondback's 140mm Mason FS being a good example of a machine on the other end of the spectrum, which is more like that aforementioned A380 that flies smoothly regardless of turbulence. There are pros and cons to each, of course, but we reckon that there isn't a long travel 29er that can hold a candle to the E29 when on immensely technical stretches of trail.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher
  It doesn't have to be a big move to bring a smile to your face, and the E29 lets you explore the trail to find bumps and jumps that you might simply roll past on a less playful rig.


Specialized has equipped the no holds barred S-Works with the best mid-travel suspension that money can buy: RockShox's 160mm travel Pike RCT3 and Cane Creek's DBair CS. The combination is eye-opening in its capabilities, and it took a few rides for us to re-adjust our mindset as to what we could get away with when the speeds got high enough to have us wishing for a full face helmet. That thought is fitting, though, because the E29 has the wherewithal to offer downhill bike-like performance, and we'd say that it makes more sense for roughly 80% of downhillers to be on an S-Works Enduro rather than their gravity pigs, if cost was no factor, that is. Supple suspension providing gobs of traction that can also eat up all your flat landings is part of it, but it's also how both the shock and fork can remain level and balanced in their stroke that enables the bike to be pushed so hard. How so? That sort of behaviour allows you to really attack the trail because you know exactly how your bike is going to handle when riding above your head, and it feels natural to do exactly that when on the E29. What can we compare it to? The recently reviewed Mondraker Dune comes to mind as one of the more confidence inspiring mountain bikes, something that is largely due to the radical position that its long top tube and 10mm stem puts the rider in relation to the front axle, but the E29 manages to pretty much equal the Dune's performance with more traditional geometry, meaning that you can get on it without being required to adjust your style to the bike - it's downright easy to jump on the E29 and hold it wide open from the get-go.
bigquotesCumbersome? Hell no. This bike can bob and weave like an aerobatic plane whose pilot maybe did a line or two of gutter glitter before lifting off.

It's obvious that Specialized has done something very, very right with the E29 when it comes to getting the bike around corners fast. Or rather, the bike getting you around corners fast. Extremely fast. Those who still doubt that big wheels take more effort to bring around tight bends need to take a turn on the Enduro 29, with it making it very obvious that wheel diameter doesn't matter so long as the bike's geometry is nailed. This point was drilled home by riding a handful of other machines back to back, many on the same day and many being based around smaller diameter wheels, and not a single one of them being able to corner with so little effort. You can do it however you like as well, because the E29 can carve a clean arc through any corner like a slot car, or you can snap its back end around with ease just by unweighting it ever so slightly if you're want to throw up some spray. That last point might lead you to think that traction could be an issue on loose ground, and we admit to expecting exactly that, but the bike did a good job of staying stuck to the deck until you wanted it to do the opposite. It's a rare machine that can combine heaps of both stability and maneuverability, but Specialized has managed to merge the two most important "bilitys" in the S-Works Enduro 29.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher
  Coming in too hot should best be avoided, but it's far less of an event on the E29 than you might expect. You'll still get bit if you're not riding smart, but the margin for error is sizeable when on the Enduro.


This is the point in the review where we'd usually bag on bike that descends as well as the E29 for being about as playful as an elderly sloth on Xanax, and say something along the lines of how it will ''take an aggressive rider to get the most out of it," a phrase you have to be as tired of reading as we are of writing it. The Enduro doesn't require you to a hold a pro DH racing license to throw it around, though, and we found ourselves using more of the trail and its hidden features than when on most other bikes of the same travel, simply because it wants to manual, wants to be pumped and jumped over the trail to some random and tiny transition, and is equally happy being ridden with a foot out and complete disregard for the lifespan of its rear tire. We like to do that quite a bit, by the way, and it simply felt natural to ride like you don't have a care in the world when aboard the Enduro.


Technical Report

• We all have our preferences when it comes to suspension, but anyone who has ridden the Pike and a DBair CS will likely tell you that both are hard to beat. We'd say the same, but we did end up having an issue with the bike's Cane Creek shock that saw it lose all damping right at the end of our test session. To be fair, this is the first failure of a Cane Creek shock that we've experienced on a test bike, but we'd be bummed if we had just purchased the S-Works E29 and had its shock check out.

• Specialized's Command Post and its lightening quick rebound seems to be the butt of many jokes about injuries to the nearby family jewels, but we've never had any such issues with it. In fact, we've come to far prefer the post's fast return speed and audible top out clunk that lets us know that it's back to full height, and now most other droppers feel downright sluggish in comparison. This is also our first go on the new IR variation that sees its actuation cable routed internally through the frame, and while we didn't remove and re-install it to test how difficult the process is, we sure do love the clean looks. It doesn't hurt that it was trouble-free, not something we can say often of KS' LEV Integra that comes stock on many bikes.

Mike Levy testing the Specialized Enduro 29er in Sedona. Photo by Colin Meagher


• The Roval Traverse SL 29 hookless carbon wheelset certainly plays a big part in both the bike's great climbing manners and divorce-inducing price tag, but they are also something that anyone who is considering spending this kind of money will appreciate. We didn't burp any air out of either the front or back tires, and neither the rims or DT Swiss hub internals gave us hint of mechanical trouble.

• Is the bike's 750mm wide handlebar big enough? Yes, the truth is that many pro downhillers and enduro racers run very similar widths on their bikes, but it seems like the general public prefers a wider stance these days regardless. The E29 seems like a good candidate for a set of 780s, doesn't it? Maybe it's just us...


Pinkbike's take:
bigquotesHow do you judge a mountain bike that costs over nine thousand dollars? As critically as possible, obviously. After all, there should be absolutely zero reason to complain when it comes to performance if you're spending that kind of money on a bike. And no, we're certainly not going to tell you that it's worth $9,250 USD, especially when you can spend well under four grand to get the same basic platform and geometry, but the broadness of the S-Works' abilities is just as ridiculous as its price tag. It is, without a doubt the best of its breed that we've spent time on, and while its price is sure to get many readers up in arms, we can only wish that the same people were given a chance to see just how formidable the bike is on the trail.- Mike Levy


www.specialized.com


373 Comments

  • + 281
 $9250 MSRP and I'm over here like crap, do I buy new tires or eat this week?
  • + 206
 If you don't buy new tires maybe you will eat some dirt
  • + 167
 "the S-Works machine is like the girlfriend that whispers in your ear in the heat of the moment to go ahead" lol. If I drop $9250 on my wife, she better tell me to "go ahead"!
  • + 7
 I guess bikes will be more than cars in the near future...WTF!!!
  • + 25
 Good thing I already have a bike....
  • + 75
 If only wages could increase as much as MTB prices.
  • + 32
 "We're not going to tell you it's worth $9,250"
Seriously, will everyone stop complaining about prices? It's getting really old. If you don't like how expensive it is, BUY A CHEAPER BIKE.
  • + 61
 We did. Then we asked if companies could review bikes in our price range so we could look at stuff for next season or so.

Then we got a review of a ten thousand dollar bike.

Stop whining about people noting that this review is never going to be realistic to them, as people are going to keep complaining until more budget offerings are shown.

Most mags do a budget shootout every two or three issues. PB seems to do it once a season. Can we change that a lot? Like, right now? You admit there's a cheaper version of the Enduro, so why not review it, as more people are going to be looking at it, and mention in that article "well if you want more bike you can buy the S-works, but the Comp is a really good value and offers all the same bang." You can't say it offers the same until you've ridden it. You don't know how much that carbon chassis is making it track down the trail. If you do, that means you rode the Comp. If you rode the comp and chose to review the ultra high tier bike that almost a vast majority of us don't care about, and will never be able to afford, then you need to get your priorities straight. We pay your rent by coming to the site. At least kick back some reviews for the plebs.

/Rant.
  • + 21
 Why the complaints? You'll still have $750 left of your $10k to buy a helmet, shoes and kt…. well, a helmet and shoes anyways.
  • + 24
 "its aluminum rear end measures just 430mm" I don't give a damn what reason they may have had for using aluminum instead of carbon... if I'm spending almost 10k on a bike, it better be a FULL carbon bike. I understand there may be no impact on stiffness, or it's just as light as carbon... I don't care. A 9k+ carbon bike still has an aluminum rear end? I don't get it.
  • + 3
 Not for nothin', but Lenz Lunchbox. 150mm, 16.7 chain stays, 66.5* HTA (with 160 fork), handmade in Colorado, ~$2500 frame with shock.
  • - 10
flag sherbet Plus (Apr 21, 2014 at 7:07) (Below Threshold)
 Titus Supermoto has also seen sub 1k pricing in recent months. Think they were going for 899 without shock for a little while? It's nice you can build up a bike so awesome for so cheap these days. My bike cost about a third what this Enduro does, and I bet it rides a whole lot better than a third as well.
  • + 76
 If you cant afford it, sell meth on the side. I saw it in Breaking Bad. Looks pretty easy.
  • + 1
 BUY A CHEAPER BIKE. absolutely agree! now review some...or not. it only took one intent to sell arrest to get my pikes.
  • + 36
 Does our whole conversation have to be about the cost? We just read an exciting review...when was the last time that PB gave a bike such high marks? the PB boys did a thorough and honest review of this bike, and, from their report, this bike raises the bar...The creation of this bike is good news for us. Better bikes for all of us! We might have to be patient until the performance this bike offers reaches our price point, but a bike that raises the bar is GREAT NEWS! Smile
  • + 0
 "Move your hips around like its your wedding night..take adv of those relaxed angles...."Coming in hot should be avoided!"
  • + 13
 i say just don't mention price next time. it's that simple. guys who have cash like that don't care how much it is and guys who do can't get it. you don't walk into Bugatti and ask about financing then haggle over tinted windows.
  • - 1
 We'll know the price regardless though. We all know what that S-WORKS stickers mean, and they mean $$$!
  • + 2
 that's true but i don't think money is the point of the bike's review in this case. i just look at it as a teaser & tech to be dispersed in a season or two in a realistic price range for myself. who am i kiddin?! it took me 3 yrs to get a 2011 offering! haha
  • + 62
 pinkbike is probably the winiest group of people on the internet
  • - 4
flag amirazemi (Apr 21, 2014 at 8:55) (Below Threshold)
 @GekoES haha i was laughing out loud like really loud hahah u made my day!
  • - 2
 YT Capra is a much better deal. And big S is douchey.
  • + 2
 Can't get the YT over on this side of the Pond, yet. Hope they have distro soon.
  • + 3
 I couldn't even finish the review, it was too gushy! How many metaphors can you make to describe how amazing this bike is? I should have expected it, it's the winner of their bike of the year from '13, with the fork of the year and shock of the year, rolling on carbon rims.
  • + 6
 My bikes are already more than my car
  • + 6
 A brand new Nissan Micra has an MSRP of $9,995. It has airbags, stability control system and ABS brakes, plus a bunch of other stuff as standard equipment. So anyone wondering if they should buy this bike or not should think about how much this bike costs and how much the Nissan costs which is an automobile, not a bicycle. And if you do decide to spend this much on a bicycle, best not tell anyone how much you spent otherwise everyone will think you're a colossal idiot.
  • + 21
 I have a solution for Pinkbike to end this pointless whining on price. Just make some goodjournalist work and go around shops and bike makers to ask how many superbikes they make and how fast they sell out. Well Cycling News did such article on road bikes which can reach 12k and guess what: those bikes are hard to get, if you want one, you need to order it as soon as you can as they sell out very quickly, even the TT bikes!!! I can only assume that MTBs of all kinds go as fast as my friend was unable to purchase a Session 9.9 already in February! The were sold out!

So please, don'tbe like those hippies complaining that they cannot afford a house or a condo wherever they like. I am tired of such bullcrap that sour part of hipsters refer to as gentrification. Get money or enjoy options you have, the latter wirks great even if you have money. Furthermore stop btchn on companies - if those wouldn't go off the shelves like fresh buns they wouldn't ever be made. This society makes it possible, and you are a part of it, if you don't like it then leave, but hey you do like it! Otherwise you'd ride a rigid SS
  • + 5
 if you tell any non biker you spent over a $1000 on a bicycle they'll think the same......but the expression on there faces is priceless when you tell them your bike is worth more then or as much as there car
  • + 4
 Have you seen this month's Road and Track cover showcasing the new Nissan Micra?!
  • + 6
 $10k bikes are worth $5k within a year...stop moaning. Rejoice in the fact that you buy a used bike like this for half price...that's what i did.

Points to note about the review though: The command post sucks! and are you'll be rebuilding the wheels within in year, less if you run it tubeless as the sealant fecks the alu spoke nipples.

If you can afford to spend $10k on a bike you'd be a f*ckstick to go all in on a stock bike...buy the frame and go from there. More fun too!
  • + 10
 You guys do realize that the goal of it is to review the Enduro 29 platform, not the parts- the pieces that make it cost $10k. The differences in ride feel based purely on the frame between the $3k version and $10k version are very slim. Everything after that can be switched out.
  • - 7
flag guataisi (Apr 21, 2014 at 11:58) (Below Threshold)
 Stop whining!!!!! This site is intended for elite classes, not for poor people like you. PB staff
  • + 9
 Whats the problem? If you dont have the money for the s-works, get the expert...
I have tons of fun on my expert!!!
  • - 1
 Id buy a yt if one could get them in Nz.
  • + 10
 @Rocky-Urban I'd rather admit riding a $10k bike than driving a Nissan Micra...
  • + 8
 $9250. Is that with reflectors?
  • + 2
 better include valve caps or I'll sue
  • - 8
flag Rocky-Urban (Apr 21, 2014 at 13:37) (Below Threshold)
 @Etremmist I'd be more embarrassed if someone found out I spent nearly $10 grand on a bicycle. And I can easily go faster than you in a Micra. And I'll be faster while enjoying some music and being refreshed by the air conditioning.
  • + 3
 if i dropped 10K on my girlfriend, i'm sure she'd let me finish anywhere
  • + 14
 we don't call those girlfriends @ $10k
  • + 7
 When cars are reviewed - especially sports cars... It's not often they test the bargain basement, no options, ramen noodle for dinner - model.

This is a popular, up and coming segment.
This bike is a "look at what we can do" statement.
So even though the top model is being tested - does not mean YOU have to buy it....

Are you pissed because your Chevy Cruze is'nt even close to the $100k+ Corvette ZR-1? You bought what fit your budget.
  • - 6
flag Rocky-Urban (Apr 21, 2014 at 17:03) (Below Threshold)
 I wouldn't be caught dead driving a GM. I have no interest in buying a car built by a bailed out bankrupt company. I love my WRX!
  • + 1
 I love my STI Wink
  • - 1
 I just went ahead and did a quicksy neg prop. Sorry, A.
  • + 4
 Sure seems like the better comparison would be the 29er vs the 26er version of the same bike if the author wanted to inject wheel size into the discussion. I did the comparison and for me, the 26er version of this bike was much snappier and more agile in the steep technical stuff I ride, so I bought one and I freakin LOVE this thing. Sooooooo fast.
  • + 2
 Look at it this way... If you buy a cheeper bike, then you can have multiple cheeper bikes instead of one uber expensive one.
  • + 2
 Look at it this way, for most of people who buy those bikes, 10k is a matter of max 2 paychecks. A statistical PB price whiner needs to wait much longer to buy a second hand aluminium version of this one.so again it is not the problem
of a bike but of a society with surplus issues. And would you please stop relating that to cars? Because car, even the cheap one, is nothing more but a luxury. Why can cars go faster than 130kmph? Why can't people cycle or use public transport more often? And if you really need to use a car, why not car rental? So don't go there because a car and urban sprawl is a symbol of what is fkd with this world. I prefer people to buy bikes like that than take a freaking 3 ton truck with 6L engine to take four bikes up the mountain. This bike over there is a tiny bit of the picture that we are all a part of. So keep it quiet, don't be hipocrites
  • + 3
 I think I'll buy this and then a new carbon enve wheel set, then I think I'll mortgage my house and sell my first born to cover the expenses.
  • + 5
 cretin82 - ENVE besides undoubtedly excellent properties is a luxurious designer item. It is Channel No5 of MTB world. Rovals just get the job done as a carbon wheelset. If you manage to forget the ENVE prestige you'd be more than happy with the stock ones Big Grin

Off course there is a risk that the "Sweatshop theory" applies here. According to it ENVE or CK is a top notch employer providing generous social benefits to its workers and their families with 125 holiday days per year, 4h work days, private hospital with free care and scholarships for their children at best schools in the country. Meanwhile at Specialized, by average 20 women are raped and 50 children are worked to death, in order to make one Roval wheelset in a barbwire fenced gulag somewhere deep in mountains of unspecified country on Asian continent. The hubs are obviously machined using blood diamond equiped head and bearings roll on a lubricant made of human fat. Many of slave workers are westeners sued by Specialized lawyers on various occasions.
  • + 4
 Hehehaha? ^A bit too much WAKIdesignes.
  • + 4
 waki goin PE on us.
  • + 4
 I was just poking a joke at crazy prices. Waki went next level
  • + 6
 i think he's experimenting with us. it's like professor griff and miley cyrus in one drug.
  • + 5
 Yamaha R6 cost in USA 10 000 $ and its top level of Superbike only one part (Engine) its 10 000 more complicaited then this stupid bike and its cost the same.., its just ridiculous !! so Waki designes your arguments dont say to me., MTB industry getting fu**g crazy !!
  • + 2
 Bajbus - bicycles were always that expensive. No1 - if you don't like it don't buy it No2 - if you have such a negative attitude towards biking then please leave MTB and pick up another hobby. Many oeople like bikes like this o e and don't want to hear such whining. When the dark daya come I will gladly ride a ht for 1/20th of a price but for now, let me enjoy the high tech. So please leave, change hobby, Buy a Yamaha R6 instead if you can afford the insurance. Oh and that Yamaha R6 is an equivalent of Enduro comp alu at best you might want to spend 100k or more on a race ready R1. Now I believe you like watching Top Gear and someone shouting Pooower, so sorty you are a hipocrite.
  • + 4
 I ride MTB for 18 years (since i was 15 ) and I started ride motorcycles only 3 years ago and I appreciate level of technology I take in superbike and how its complicated in reference to bicycle but simultaneously its cost rattionaly
  • + 5
 Waki's right, bikes have always been expensive - we had $10k ti bikes back in the 90s that were not nearly as capable as the Enduro is now. It's not that the mtb industry is getting crazy, it's that the market will bear it, i.e. customers are completely willing to pay this much $. So, it's our own F'ing faults for wanting the best and demanding it yesterday. We can complain all we want about the high prices, but companies will continue to make these super expensive bikes because people are just waiting to open their wallets year in and year out. Cars are a great example of this - someone mentioned the WRX, which used to cost $23k base when it came stateside in 2002. Now it's nearly $30k base, which the STi used to cost when it came stateside in 2004. Now the STi is close to $39k and Subaru continues to increase annual sales. just like bikes, it's all in response to demand.
  • + 3
 I personaly own an equivalent of such bike on which I haven't spent more than 4k. 10k is for those who appreciate super bikes but have lives and aren't as fkd up nerd as I am, nor as skillful buyers and insiders as majority of PB users.
  • + 3
 @SaulGoodman Thats exactly it. I think budget oriented people are sick at the fact that people are willing to pay for it. Which is ultimately money envy, not envy at how well designed the bike is.

I don't get upset that I cannot afford a Bugatti Veyron, and others can. I instead bought a loaded VW GTI Autobahn. I bought what fit my budget and i'm happy with it.

I however work an average job, I love to ride bikes and wanted a jack of all trades... So I bought an $8995 Trigger 29 Carbon 1.
Why? I saved up for it, I ride ALOT, and I liked it. To me it was the Veyron of bikes, and I could afford it with some saving.

I probably would have bought this S-works - if the bike store I like to deal with carried Specialized.

This weekend, I might have a nice meal at a nice restaurant too with the wife. We do it once every 6 months.... Anyone mad?
  • + 7
 i think we can all agree that life is way too short for this thread.
  • + 1
 Money envy. that's totally the driving force behind the anger we see here. Me, I got car envy. GTI Autobahn - cool car.
  • + 1
 Thx. It offers incredible bang for the buck. Time? I'm on the phone at work, most of my day. Cruising PB lightens the mood. haha
  • + 0
 fullbug - the topic is irrelevant, the goal here is to reach singularity with PB comment board
  • + 2
 namaste, waki.
  • + 3
 I saw a dude riding one of these today, with the carbon Roval wheels. I blew his dumb ass away on my steel hardtail. Goes to show you can't buy certain things... namely fitness and cojones.
  • + 1
 Good story mate
  • + 1
 Too true^. Keyboard/wallet = nothing in real life.
Scars and stories = bliss
  • + 139
 10K Bikes are so last season.
  • + 9
 If only I give you more props...
  • + 80
 Yes, these bikes cost more than most people can afford, but like it or not, there are people out there with the money to buy these things. Innovation, research, and construction costs money, and those costs (and the fact that the consumer market for bikes is very small) are reflected in the prices of new products. Sooner or later, improvements trickle down to levels where the common folk like us will be able to afford them and they end up benefiting the biking community as a whole. So stop getting angry at companies when they do their job of putting out a new product just because you cant afford it.
  • + 12
 Well said.
  • - 5
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 5:49) (Below Threshold)
 wertyu: "Innovation, research, and construction costs money, and those costs (and the fact that the consumer market for bikes is very small) are reflected in the prices of new products."

Since this is Specialized, you forgot to mention the costs of over-zealous, sue-happy lawyers.
  • + 19
 I agree wholeheartedly. Those comparisons to mx bikes is so absurd as the production bikes are speced like 2 k mtb. A ready to race moto at the national level is $150k!

I feel fortunate to be able to own equipment a pro uses on my wage! I cannot do that in any wheeled sport other than cycling.
  • + 4
 There's a huge economies of scale difference between the performance moto & performance MTB markets, too: If we had the same manufacturing volume as even Yamaha by itself, we'd probably be able to get that $2,000 MTB you mention for $500.
  • + 5
 Willie you made a very valid point, that im sure many hadn't considered.
  • + 2
 I'm pretty sure there are much more intricate parts in a car, i'm sure the raw materials cost much more for a car, how can a bike cost soo much, even if money was not a problem i would not pay that for a bike, I'll still happily ride my second hand sx trail anywhere and still have a massive grin on my dirt covered face.
  • + 5
 Yes but it's all about economies of scale versus r&d recoup. There is nothing that major in a car that they dont produce on collosal scales and/or haven't done for decades. And yes I agree with the dirtygrin cheap bike, but as with anything, holidays, cars, schools, watches, phones, anything... There are people with money to wax on the 'best' (read: most expensive/newest) and it will always be argueable whether there is any 'point' to it. a ten pound digital Casio tells the same time as a ten grand breitling. But once in your life, save up and fork out for the breitling (read: s works) lol
  • + 5
 Forget about the price, this bike has been reviewed already and hyped endlessly on this site. Its old news at this point. They must be bored, or else why would they trot this out again, if the didn't want to be entertained by everyone bitching about another over-priced bike?
  • + 4
 Nobody gets excited with Priuses, if you want to ride Rockhopper and Cinder Cone and have fun on them then be my guest, I bet you can, but don't glorify it. II'll stick to admiring Aston Martins and F1, then judging by my personal. Experience with Stumpy SW Evo 29 this Enduro 29 SW is probably the best Mountain Bike made to this date so show some freaking respect.
  • + 3
 Try buying a MX moto with carbon frame and rims and see what that costs!
  • + 5
 I guess I'm one of those "guys out there who can afford it" and I find it absolutely ridiculous to pay 10k for a bike when a 4k bike is just the same with an extra 3 pounds. If you're not racing, those 3 pounds will probably have zero impact in your life. Hell I paid 6k for my last AM rig and I find myself retarded as looking back, I could have had a similar performing bike for 4k or so. The truth is I would probably buy one if I know it would last 10 years but everybody knows that in not even 5 years from now, this bike will be next to worthless and 4k bikes will outclass it so I find it extremely hard to justify such a purchase, especially considering that you could buy the trip of a lifetime with the 6k extra money while we all know that in a few years from now you're not going to give 2 shits about your obselete 10k bike but the trip memories will last forever.

I'm not angry at all at manufacturers for churning out 10k bikes because that's what they do... but I wish pinkbike would review stuff we can afford other than enduro shorts, smartphone cases and other product picks we really don't give a shit about.

Oh and "innovation"? Haha, it's just a frame with a slightly different geo where specialized slapped other people's innovation on it. I don't think the trickle down effect applies here as its the same frame for all specs and we really don't care if their 400$ bikes end up benefiting the enduro's changes down the line.
  • + 28
 Alloy in house handlebar on a 10k bike. Erm no thanks
  • + 5
 It's only £5k on this side of the pond. Proper bargain.
  • + 5
 Ooh I might pop t'shop and get one :L
  • + 3
 I appreciate the lower end handlebar, as I have never used a stock bar on any bike. Its the first thing I change out.
  • + 0
 Haha lozzer
  • + 4
 Or they could just spec it with an ENVE DH bar or Chromag Fubar, then you wouldn't have to change it out
  • + 2
 What if I have a different preference for sweep and width? We don't all want the same thing!
  • + 4
 Maybe they should start selling bikes without bars... Razz
  • + 16
 They have to cut corners somewhere to get into the sub $9,300 price point.
  • + 1
 Yeah it's just the way specialized are, you get their stuff on top end bikes. Not that there is anything wrong with their stuff. I can assure you if it was marketed, labelled and aesthetically designed differently nobody would say a word. Wait for the day bikes are like soft drinks and you think you're buying something kitsch or unique and it's actually now owned by the big S or the big SC.
  • + 3
 Bikes without bars? Like the no pedal option? It's actually a sound idea, but there would be lots of tangled cables on the showroom. Same thing happened in moto, bikes used to come with mild steel bars as riders swapped the for their favorite bend before the first ride (and tires as we'll.) the reviewers bitched, and the manufacturers raised their price $100.00 and put Renthal bars on stock, and we still swap our bars anyway. Great solution!
  • + 1
 I was half kidding but maybe it's the nucleus of an idea. Maybe they could be sold with a biodegradable cardboard bar that all the 'stuff' is attached to. Bars is the one thing I would be prepared to buy after, even moreso than pedals, I think bars are very personal in width, rise, sweep and.. And.. Colour!
  • + 2
 How about we sell frames as the only option? Nothing to complain about there... Oh wait a sec, most of the people spending 9 grand on a bike wouldn't know how to build it up themselves.
  • + 2
 Basically, Specialized make and sell this bike because they can. I sold my stock specialized bars and bought my preferred bars for the same price. The stock Specialized parts seem to sell quite well.
  • + 20
 I've got the alloy version and I honestly love it. I wasn't dubious of the whole 29er concept but I did expect to find the 29er sluggish in comparison to any of my previous 26inch frames.

It climbs, desends and jumps like a monster. If I could justify the price tag for a bike that is seconded to my sworks demo for racing, then I'd have one. If this is to be someone's main/only bike then I'd fully recommend someone to at least try one for a few rides.
  • + 12
 Agreed, the comp version just needs a wheel upgrade and then it's a killer bike. Knocked time off every single strava segment I had done with my 26er, no matter how tight or steep the descent. Having just as much fun too. I wouldnt recomment 29ers in general, but you should try out the enduro 29 before blindly buying a 27.5 bike.
  • + 4
 I really want one of these bikes. Looks awesome.
  • - 8
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 6:25) (Below Threshold)
 The bike does descend like a monster in that it has the potential to go fast, but things can get ugly if you push it too hard. Like we saw with Ropelato's crash in the first corner of World' s last year.

The big wheels and short chainstays come with a trade off: less stability in loose or off-camber terrain, and increased likelihood of crashing because of higher speed(due to big wheels) combined with higher center of gravity and less agility (slower reaction). I'm not saying it's an unsafe bike to ride, or that you can't haul ass on it. But it is more likely to crash out on a fast and rough downhill than a bike with smaller wheels and longer chainstays. Not to mention longer travel.

Doesn't sound or look like the testers did any DH specific test runs(xc lids and no knee pads) even though they absurdly speculate that 80% of DH racers would be better off on this bike:

"we'd say that it makes more sense for roughly 80% of downhillers to be on an S-Works Enduro rather than their gravity pigs, if cost was no factor, that is."

Is safety a factor? Probably not. Did you guys really push this bike to the limit in the DH "testing" phase, on a real DH track? Doesn't appear so.

And is fun a factor in that absurd 80% recommendation? Cause this bike is not as fun to get airborne as a 26 "gravity pig".
  • + 17
 Seems really speculative. Because a pro DH rider crashed one it's less stable and/or unsafe? Shit, I've crashed every bike I've owned and the vast majority of the time, it was MY fault, not the bike.

You're also misquoting what was written. The writer stated that "80% of downhillers" not "80% of DH racers." Those are two radically different things. I doubt Levy is suggesting pro DH racers should be riding E29ers; it's obviously not a DH bike. I believe the suggestion was that 80% of folks of various abilities that ride a DH bike, would likely be just as fast or faster on an E29.

I own the Comp version of this bike. It's ridiculously capable.
  • + 2
 You can't post that anti 29er talk here. They said its good for DH so it must be bro. Lol. Would be nice to see some sort proof to that claim for surer tho.
  • + 5
 Protour you really have no idea what you're going on about. How is the CoG higher on this bike than the majority of 26"/650b bikes? Where do you think the centre of mass is located on a bike?
  • - 11
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 8:43) (Below Threshold)
 @blatant; It's not speculative, it's science.

Higher speed + higher center of gravity + slower reaction time (less agility) = increased likelihood of crashing when you are pushing the limits.
Add on short chainstays to that formula and you increase the odds of the back end washing out in certain situations.

I look forward to anybody's critique of that formula.

I provided the quote about the ridiculous 80 % suggestion and you accuse me of misquoting, hilarious.
  • - 15
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 8:53) (Below Threshold)
 jclnv, 29ers have a higher center of gravity because the wheels are significantly larger, even if everything else on the bike is the same. More science.
  • + 5
 Bottom bracket drop is much more influential in bicycle handling Thames c of g. Look it up.
  • + 11
 Ah, science. Perhaps you could also throw in some statistics to further cement your point. Have you ridden this bike?

Regarding the misquote: Your initial post stated that Levy referred to 80% of DH Racers when in fact that is not what the article says. Why is this so difficult to understand? You're misquoting the article and then using that to be dismissive. Be "scientific" for Christ's sake; like, with facts and stuff.
  • - 6
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 9:37) (Below Threshold)
 What's the difference between a DH racer and DH rider? One doesn't race, other than that they pretty much do the same thing; shuttling on downhill trails, riding as fast as they can downhill. A 27 pound 29er is not an adequate substitute for a real DH bike, at least not for 80% of downhillers.

The bottom bracket drop is not as significant as the wheels on c.o.g. when you consider the big, heavy wheels on a 29er that are also rotational weight. That heavy rotational weight is also in part what makes it less agile and gives the rider slower reaction time.

I have ridden the enduro 29er. It's an ok bike but I've yet to ride a 29er that was as fun to ride as a small wheel bike. They don't turn as fast, they don't handle steep terrain as well, and they completely feel like a dead horse while airborne. But they have their place for some riders, I'll acknowledge that.
  • + 13
 I cant believe I'm going to answer to this drivel...
"Higher speed + higher center of gravity + slower reaction time (less agility)..."
1) Where is this higher center of gravity? Given the same sagged BB height as a 26er the COG is pretty much as high, unless hubs are crazy heavy or you are running super raised handlebars. Furthermore, since the point where 80% of the weight is (that would be the rider weight at the BB center) is below the wheel axles, this ads stability.
2) You can not have your cake and eat it too: you would have to be a complete buffoon to say "slower reaction time" and then on the VERY NEXT LINE discredit short chainstays. The short chain stays make the bike nimble, that is fact, anyone who has ridden a couple of bikes can tell this. So a bike can not possibly be critiqued for being "less agile" and for having short (more agile) chainstays, it just makes no sense. There is a spectrum ranging from agile to stable, nearly every reviewer feels this bike sits in a very good place on that spectrum, you are effectively claiming that is sits on both ends of the spectrum at the same time...
  • + 2
 Whoever first said this was a substitute for a dh bike was mistaken I think. This is a very quick enduro bike in my eyes.
  • + 1
 Well said mugen!
  • + 3
 Thanks Mugen for putting 'Mr Science' (LOL) right. As you say, absolute drivel.
  • - 6
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 10:35) (Below Threshold)
 Mugen: 1) "Where is this higher center of gravity?"

In the big wheels, as I stated above. You cannot pretend the wheels aren't part of the bike. The effect of the big wheels is exaggerated because it is rotational weight.

2) The big wheels are also the reason it is less agile, and the short chainstays do not make up for bigger wheels. Putting short chainstays on a 29er does not magically more agile than a bike with smaller wheels. It is two separate factors so I can have my cake and eat it too. The E29 turns quicker than other 29ers, but only on corners that have a berm and not all do. Are you seriously trying to assert that this bike is more agile than a 26" bike with similar geometry?
  • + 2
 Protour you really should buy a vehicle dynamics book. This stuff is page one. But I suggest you consider this one fact, the above bike weighs 12 kilos, the average rider would be 70+ kilos. You're seriously arguing that a couple of hundred grams of wheel weight is a deciding factor in the above bikes agility?
  • - 4
flag wakaba (Apr 21, 2014 at 11:04) (Below Threshold)
 The PR tries to gloss that it marginally handles better than other 29. Cog is higher, center of rotational mass is higher, standing mass is higher than 26. The rear end is not a proper suspension but basically semirigid. Best bike? Very doubtful. 10k is obscene. The articles language is way over the top. Not good.
  • + 4
 Comedy gold troll.
  • + 4
 Protour, you have never ridden this bike.
  • + 4
 Protour - the center of gravity of the bike is next to irrelevant because it is the riders weight that makes 80% of the overal package and for that reason the only centrr you should worty sbout on the bike is BB height and drop. Then even if it mattered the cog of 29" wheels sits 33mm above 26" wheel. Then 29ers are i tribdicaly too stable for most occasions due to "gigantic" BB drop therefore they need destabilizing by using as short stays as possible, Many use very short stems for the same reason. What a load of assumed crap Jebuzzz... You know sht of bike geometry and handling just shut up.
  • - 5
flag Protour (Apr 21, 2014 at 14:01) (Below Threshold)
 You have a hard time believing somebody didn't think a 29er was as much fun as a bike with smaller wheels?

Jclnv, It's not just the extra weight of the wheel, it is a combination of factors that make 29ers less agile.

I'm not denying 29ers don't have their advantages, they roll faster and go over bumps better, especially when going in a straight line. They are definitely potentially faster than smaller whees on some trails , just because they roll so much faster. I hope Ropelato and other guys keep reading them, and I definitely think they could win some races. But it's naive to think there are no disadvantages to riding a 29er compared to smaller wheels, which is what you guys and this review are attempting to do. Especially the fun factor, imo.

As for 29ers more likely to crash out in DH races, time will tell as we see more guys experiment with them on the World Cup tracks. It will be exciting to watch.
  • + 10
 Now you're really backpedaling. Why not just admit that you haven't ridden this bike and are basically talking out of your arse?
  • - 2
 Because them i would be lying. Sorry i didn't like your big wheel dream bike, but I've never heard anyone make an effective argument that 29ers were more fun. Yeah, they go faster I'm a straight line, that's where the argument begins and ends right? 26 or 650 Is more playful in any other situation for me.

But explain to me how i am backpedalling, given that I've had the same position all along?

I do think 29ers are more crash prone in DH racing, neg prop me if it makes you feel better about your big boring wheels, clones & S-Whores.
  • + 1
 Nice come back.
  • + 2
 An effective argument regarding something purely subjective?

Good luck with that.
  • + 1
 Season must be just about in full swing. A debate with Protour. I was getting bored.
  • + 1
 I don't even know what "neg propping" is, but I suspect you're managing to dig that hole all on your own.

There is no "argument." When you come on here spouting off about something you clearly have no experience with, it kinda makes you look like a tool. Enjoy whatever bike you like, bro, and stop hating on others.
  • - 1
 Waki: "Then 29ers are i tribdicaly too stable for most occasions due to "gigantic" BB drop therefore they need destabilizing by using as short stays as possible, Many use very short stems for the same reason. What a load of assumed crap Jebuzzz... You know sht of bike geometry and handling just shut up."

Part of that is incomprehensible, but looks like Waki is also a brainwashed victim of Specialized marketing, insisting 29ers "need as short as stays as possible." According to Waki, they need this for a "destabilizing" effect. Yeah, let's intentionally make our bike less stable! I agree with you that it has a "destabilizing" effect, here is some proof:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljDSCb-H8Fk&feature=youtube_gdata_player
  • + 4
 Well I say it by riding several 29ers, including a very similar Stumpy 29, while your support your argument by showing a movie of a guy crashing which means nothing. For instance there is a vast difference in playfullness between my old Niner EMD and Kona Honzo, which can be described as a drunk truck vs playful bubba. Then I like short stays because I designed and got built a frame of my own, which has really short stays as for a MTB that is 405mm actual and 402mm effective. Guess what - it is really stable and still climbs great! You know what is fun about short stays: front wheel air time - cool when you need to bunny hop, manual through a mud pool or a hole, or pump out of the corner. Maybe because I assumed relatively correctly how to make it click with the rest of lenghts and angles? Because bike is not one thing at a time? Do you really buy stuff judging by race results? Are you one of those guys who watch porn deliberately for educational purposes, to satisfy a girl better?

No real practice, no real experience - no gains. Get this advice for the future, don't make the same mistake I have been making for most of my short life: no matter how great is your imagination - you must live sht to tell what it's like and appreciate it. Everything else is masterbation.
  • + 3
 Now it's the blind leading the blind. Classic stuff.
  • + 0
 Waki, I think you look at things from more of the trail riding perspective and I look at them from a DH perspective, where long chainstays are more of a liability than an advantage. When 29er DH bikes become more prominent, they will have longer stays than this Enduro, and it will be by choice.

This bike is not a substitute for real DH bike, if 80% of Downhillers stated riding this 27 pound carbon fiber trail bike, as Pinkbike has recommended, Specialized would be processing a lot more warranty claims and I imagine there would be more than a few extra visits to emergency rooms around the world. What a spectacularly stupid statement to suggest this as a replacement for a DH bike.

jclnv, you only look at things from a 'Everything Specialized does is the best' perspective, without a doubt the biggest Specialized brown noser on PB. I always envision you riding your Enduro 29er in a full Specialized kit. Even though the cynical snobs of the internet don't like it, I'm sure you are very excited about adding this innovative accessory to your riding kit:

bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2014/04/bsnyc-friday-juice-cleanse.html?m=1
  • + 1
 You're still going on about this?

I guess that'd be alright, if you weren't constantly talking out of your ass.

Let's look at the geometry of a bike that nobody can discount the merits of; the Turner DHR.

Guess what? It has chainstays a full half inch longer than this Specialized, and with 26" wheels at that.

Dang, breh!
  • + 1
 Protour, when you have the best R&D in the industry you're going to consistently produce good products. That said I don't think the E29 is without fault, they've purposefully made it less stable to answer the criticisms of the public (the vast majority of who can't ride for shit) regarding 29" bikes.

Anyway it's pointless arguing with you. You hardly understand the basics of geometry and you have a vendetta against Specialized that boarders on obsessive.
  • + 3
 Protour, there is a big difference in geometry between a 26" DH bike and 29" Enduro, and that is BB drop which in case of 29er can be 33mm lower. That gives plenty of stability. That is also why 29er forks have bigger axle offset so that you run steeper HA to get more low speed agility and high speed stability ast the same time, while fork trail remains quite the same. Due to better roll over the fork can be at a steeper angle to the ground. If you'd build a 180-200mm travel 29er DH bike with same geometry principles as 26" bike the sht wouldn't turn. E29 is a trail bike and that means that on many occasions it needs good and precis handling at low speeds. Hence compromises. Then shorter stems are necessary for 29ers as partly to increased inertia they have more oversteer than 26ers. Therefore having 50 or even 35mm stem helps to keep things lively. Chainstay are much less important than people and particularly you think, Stumpy 29 has longer stays than E29, yet it is still relatively nimble as for a 29er. Stay length has much more influence on ability to unweigh or lift the front wheel (jump, manual) than to stability, which comes mainly from the overall wheelbase, fork trail, then cockpit setup (which is dramaticaly underrated by geomety trolls - you can have 2000mm wheelbase but if you put short bars on it it is going to flip flop like crap, then put 800mm bars and 150mm stem on dirt frame and you'd be able to ride rockgardens at mach speed if suspension was no object).

It is all about compromises, BUT and this is a BIG BUTT - a great design, no matter if it is a house, sofa, car or a bike always focuses on a factor, makes a strong stand, a thesis: "this feature, this characteristic is what is important to us". Now it's greatness is measured by how it manages to compensate everything else to still make it work as a whole.
  • + 0
 Protour is not alone - look back on PB to the 650B advertorial - the Black Market Bikes guy recons 29ers are too fast and lack control compared to 650B wheeled bikes. Mitch crashed at PMB on his 29er this year too and didn't even qualify. My local bike shop, which deals in high end 29ers like Niner, recons 29ers cause accidents - newbies pick up too much speed and crash when the going suddenly gets rough. Frankly I think more people ride than ever before, trails are trickier and bikes are faster in general, regardless of the wheel size...
  • + 2
 I am pretty sure that every single human being who is able to qualify to a DH world cup final is guilty riding too fast too often. Then going too hot into corners and features followed by braking in the midst of unfolding chaos is one of top 3 sins of all amateurs who think that a way to becoming a faster and better rider leads through braking less and later. 29ers don't give any more false sense of comfort and safety than lots of travel or slack geometry. I am staying away from DH bikes solely for that reason - speed goes up significantly, trees and rocks stay as hard as they were, while bag of skills is what it is and a new set skills is required to tackle obstacles at such speed. There is indeed a tiny difference in timing of corners on a 29er, you must turn earlier, and it would be dangerous IF someone jumped on Enduro 29 on a fast track without riding it a lot before. But those guys racing World Cups are damn professionals, they know what they are doing, so count that out. The reason Protour talks such stuff is because he lacks perspective, he has never ever ridden with a good rider aside to see how much is the man and how little is the machine.
  • + 1
 i dont think protour has ever had positive props aahaha
  • - 2
 I least I haven't been reduced to a being Specialized cheerleader.

You guys sound like a bunch of xc guys who are trying to make it sound like you are knowledgeable about DH geometry, even though you are xc guys. Essentially delusional, just like the pinkbike testers who think 80% of downhillers would be better off on a 27 pound 29er.

For review:

29ers are less agile, more dangerous at DH race speed, less fun to jump, but potentially faster.

Pinkbike testers have lost all credibility, and Waki is a slow downhiller who is afraid of real DH bikes.
  • + 1
 You, sir, are a dolt. In case you hadn't noticed: THE E29 IS NOT A DOWNHILL BIKE! Jesus Christ, how dense could you possibly be? I'm surprised your autonomous systems work properly; do you have to think about breathing?
  • + 1
 I never said it was a DH bike. Your anger is misdirected, Pinkbike is the one pretending it is a DH bike.
  • - 3
 Events at the loose and muddy World Cup DH race in Australia confirm all the ideas I stated here. Look what happened to Adam Brayton on the Demo in muddy, loose conditions with those short Specialized chainstays. Then the spectator didn't realize he was getting on the most unstable DH bike in the industry and he got taken out too. Everytime I saw a Demo in a video at this race during practice, it usually didn't stay on two wheels for long. Watch the sloppy joe video on Vital. Ropelato wisely ditched his 29er in these conditions but didn't have much better luck on the Demo.
  • + 1
 Yes you were right all along.
  • + 0
 That's why I never changed my position. The truth is always reflected in the science behind an idea.
  • + 1
 You're about as scientific as a creationist tarot card reader.
  • - 1
 Jclnv, what happened to your big, wobbly, boring wheels in Australia? And your short, unstable chainstays?

Why did Ropelato suddenly give up on the Enduro 29er?

Was it the big wheels getting hung up in the switchbacks, or the short chainstays sliding out in the mud? Pick your poison.

Please entertain me with excuses, jclnv. Come on, this is your losing cause, let's hear you defend it with the passion you've previously shown instead of being reduced to making weak personal insults.

You Specialized 29er nerds get another reality check in the muddy, inconsistent conditions where short chainstays and slip n slide collide for for a slide down the results sheet.

Ropelato didn't have much better luck on the Demo, and Gwin and Brosnan also failed to live up to expectations in the mud.

I thought Pinkbike said 80% of "downhillers" would be better on an Enduro 29? Lmfao. Not on a real DH trail, and certainly not in the mud.
  • + 1
 Jclnv - Protour is so right, he speaks the truth. It is the only logical way to end this discussion.
  • + 1
 Yes I give up. The guru has spoken.
  • - 2
 Ha, both of you losers have been silenced on this matter. Go draw something Waki, you will feel better. Your B grade drawings are much more entertaining than your D grade comments.

Jclnv, sometimes, you have to face the facts. The Enduro 29 is a clear loser and so are you.

Hope it rains again at the next World Cup DH race:-)
  • + 2
 no no jclnv.. please, by no means I meant anything guru like... you don't understand: by agreeing with it we shall kill it! It must feel it is right
  • - 1
 Wak, it isn't about feeling, it is about being. Otherwise you guys would be talking about bikes instead of searching for desperate ways to try to do whatever it is you are trying to do.
  • + 1
 That is a wise way to put it
  • + 14
 To think you could buy a new '14 Yamaha 450cc dirt bike for the price of this. Mountain biking really has become unaffordable in the past couple years. I remember when you could find a decent new bike for under $2000
  • + 18
 You still can. Thanks Tom. Here's the thing, can you buy a very nice car that drives beautifully for 100 grand? Yes. Can you buy an awesome car that will put a smile on your face and keep money in your pocket, for less than 20 grand? Yes. Is the choice yours. Yes!
  • + 3
 Second hand works well if your smart about it. Major draw back - no warranty
  • + 9
 Who cares about warranty when you're getting a bike that was $6-7k for $2,000?

While new, top-shelf mtbs may be in the $10k range, the amount of lightly used, extremely capable, high-end bikes continues to grow.

For example, on eBay right now you can get a Nomad for under $2k. Seriously. So throw in a bike park pass, helmet, pads and shoes, you're still under $3k.

10 years ago we couldn't buy a bike that nice for $10k.

It's a good time to be a mountain biker.
  • - 1
 What’s a works bike?
The riders on the factory teams run what are commonly called “works bikes.” These bikes start as regular off-the-showroom-floor machines, but they are fitted with special handmade parts. No part of the machine is overlooked in the quest for speed, and putting a value on the bikes is nearly impossible.

from: racerxonline.com/2008/08/25/supercross-faqs

a bit outdated, as the info is6 years old now, but you get the picture.
  • - 1
 who cares about warranty? clearly you've never broken anything.
  • + 3
 That's exactly how I got my 2013 SC Tallboy LTc for about 1/2 of retail. Searched for almost a year & found it here on PB.

Let someone else pay retail, then reap the benefits when they buy next year's hype.
  • + 3
 Tre3top.... I reckon some people just see broken stuff as a rock solid justification to buy shiny new stuff. If theyre anything like me. And let's be honest, eight out of ten purchases have no justification lol. So it's win win. You get to look like a badass because you destroyed something (grr) and its the perfect excuse to upgrade.
  • + 2
 Damn right, I brought a new bike a couple of years ago that was half price as it was the previous years model, when I snapped the mech I put a better one on it, when the cranks started creaking I put better ones on it. In the end it works out a lot cheaper than buying a high end bike straight up, and you spend smaller amounts over several months than you do shelling out several thousand like you would if you bought it all in one go. I also like that you can put exactly what componentry you want on your bike rather than whatever the manufacturer thinks is what people want this season.
  • + 2
 Exactly, you get to drip feed your addiction. Big Grin
  • + 1
 I was referring to the price of new full suspension bikes. Obviously the second hand market is where you want to be spending your money.
  • + 14
 All good, but why so cheap ?
  • + 10
 Before the internet, I had no idea how many morons were in our midst. My feelings for Pinkbike hang in the balance between great reviews and content and the realization that I am surrounded by idiots.
  • + 1
 No doubt, dude. I almost never comment here, though I always read the articles. The level of stupidity is astonishing and based on some of the comments, it's not clear these people even ride mountain bikes.
  • + 8
 I just bought a used Enduro Expert 29. I can totally agree with this review. I was in the market for a 27.5" bike and I test road a Broason and was about to buy one when I looked into the Enduro 29". I'll admit when you climb on one it feels really tall. But when you get rolling it carves corners and eats up downs. It reminds me a lot of my 26" Stumpjumper Evo except it climbs 10x better even though it weighs more. I was a 29" skeptic....I road a Tallboy LT and I was sold on the Bronson. This bike will change your prospective about 29" bikes.
  • + 7
 Hey Mike have you got any other anecdotes about having sex with your girlfriend..........unfortunately this was the most memorable aspect about the review. And no I'm not serious, I don't really want to hear but I'm sure you will tell us next time you want to deflect our attention about a 10k bike whose shock craps out. Nice one.
  • + 7
 You're wordy enough as is Mike - please spare us of creepy girlfriend references in bike reviews
  • + 4
 I agree. Poor taste.
  • + 5
 I would also like to get on top of this and thrust my opinion into the dark crevice of doubt !! ....... too much ?
  • + 1
 well, that just roused my interest.
  • + 3
 Look! PB puritans!
  • + 7
 All the complaining about retail price is really annoying.

The reviewers need to work with what Specialized or whichever other company sends them. If you were Specialzed, would you send a reviewer a mid-range bike to compare with everyone else's highest end model? Of course not. It's in their best interest to send out the newest and fanciest shit.

Two important points:

First, this review is for the highest end model, but it's still applicable to other cheaper models. You can get a damn nice Enduro 29 with a carbon frame for $6300. Or you can get the alloy version for $3300. Or you can look for deals online, like right here on Pinkbike. All the fancy technology on this bike will also be available on trickle down models. It might not have the best of everything like this one, but it should have the same general strengths and weaknesses. This review is still useful, even if you aren't in the same price range.

Second, who cares about retail price anyhow? Does anyone here actually spend anywhere near retail on anything bike related? Unless you need the newest shit immediately after it comes out, or are an idiot, those prices aren't applicable. I built up a Santa Cruz Bronson with a Pike fork, XX1/XO1 transmission, and carbon wheels for less than half the $10K retail cost of a similar bike. I got some parts used (including the frame from someone via pinkbike), some components from online stores, and even made a few trades. I'll probably switch to the new Nomad later this year, when you'll be able to get one for 2/3 the retail cost. Likewise, you could probably find the exact same bike as the one reviewed here for ~$6K, or you could build a bike that is 90% as good for 1/3 the money.

Don't believe me? There are THREE 2014 Enduro 29s listed on the buy/sell thread right here on pinkbike between $2,500 and $3,500. Those bikes aren't the same spec as the one reviewed here, but they have the same frame design and are pretty damn nice bikes.
  • + 1
 Thanks for the idea. I may try to get myself a near new nomad when they start showing up 2nd hand.
  • + 5
 I notice that Specialized are still making the shocks (in this case the admittedly excellent DB Air) completely bespoke to the frame. Want a different shock? Too bad for you. It wouldn't surprise me if the they not only gave it that ridiculous rear stay, but made it a custom length as well, just f*ck over the end user. As usual.
It's a shame, because otherwise it's a nice looking bike.
  • + 2
 I'm not 100% sure that they don't just have a custom horseshoe attached to the standard eyelet, but after changing to a bike with normal suspension bushings instead of bearings: the bearings make a huge difference in feel and performance, to the point that I'll switch my new bike's rear end to needle bearings as soon as I can find a shock I want to keep on it.
  • + 1
 If you look closely, you will see the custom horseshoe (nice way of putting it btw, wish I'd thought of that) is attached directly to the base of the shock, no eyelet at all. That's the issue imo, if you have any issue whatsoever with the shock, either you don't like it, it breaks etc, then you are completely stuffed, you can't just go to your LBS or Ebay or anywhere else for that matter and get a replacement shock, you absolutely have to get a Specialized spec shock. Which I'm pretty sure aren't just lying around at the bike shop waiting for you to buy.
  • + 1
 I don't think it's molded directly to the shock can. If I'm not mistaken, the way Specialized does this is that they run the bottom eyelet sideways, and have the horseshoe slide over the eyelet, with a pin that runs through both to attach it to the shock.
  • + 1
 The horseshoe bolts to the shock in a different manner to a normal eyelet. It is custom. There is no bush, or eyelet - just a threaded hole for a bolt that goes through the back of the horseshoe into the shock shaft. It's not a problem though - you can run any Fox shock on it soon. I run a Float X on mine, you can run the CCDBA, and RS are about to release Monarchs that will also fit.
  • + 1
 The hole is threaded? Thanks for the info, but that is a problem: what do you do in a few years when they change standards, and nobody offers that style? I had an '05 demo, and the rear "eyelet" is just an unthreaded hole, because they just use a couple spacers, and run it against some bearings, with a bolt going through the whole assembly. works well (except for when you have to take it apart)rides really plush, but good luck finding a shock for it now, and it still rides great (a buddy has it) but it's got a DHX 5.0 on it, what if he wants a new shock? I really thought Specialized had learned that lesson, and were just using a standard eyelet with custom attachment hardware, but I guess I was too optimistic.
  • + 4
 Bike prices are getting out of hand. Yes the technology is awesome. But my god. I can buy a KTM Freeride 350 which is arguably the pinnacle of moto trail bikes for the same price and do this ....... m.youtube.com/watch?v=nx7v6AA47vI
  • + 4
 I'm around a bike shop a lot, and I'm really surprised this is the first ccdba that pinkbike has had blow up on them. In the past year we have had about six different cane creeks come in needing to be sent in because they were losing air, or had started spewing oil.
  • + 1
 My friend picked up a 2014 26 version of this S-Works bike and his was losing air the same day. Oh and if you want a 26 version you can get this bike at a downright steal.
  • + 8
 Still cheaper than a wife.
  • + 4
 Quityerbitchen about the price point. If you want one cheaper, get the non S-Works version; it is a lot cheaper. I unloaded my '13 Stumpy expert carbon 29er for one of these and yes, I'm faster on the downhills because this slacker rig. It has way more float - the Stumpy stuck to the trails like white on rice. I'm not disappointed. Now if I can only get a set of carbon hoops for it....
  • + 4
 Let's ignore the fact that for the same money you could buy a Kawasaki KX 450F and probably have enough change for a full kit. I rode one for a day last weekend. I am a major 29er sceptic but for me the S Works was BY FAR the best trail bike I've ever ridden. I truly wanted to hate it but I absolutely loved it. Yes there is a gyroscopic effect when jumping and yes it doesn't levitate itself up the trail on the ups but ride one for a day and you'll be in love. If I had the money I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
  • + 3
 its sad that when you voice your opinion on facts not dreams you get hammered I respect what everybody has to say. Started mtn biking at the age of 55, and now at the age of 66, i still go to Snow Show Mountain and ride the Western Frontier and must say I go faster then most people half my age Mountain biking can be enjoyed by people of all ages and sex if we only try to respect one an other. What got me were I am at is hard work and the help of bikers a 3rd my age. Just wish I could afford a new expensive bike. Bless you All
  • + 5
 Can someone buy this and sell it to me in a couple years so i can afford it Wink
  • + 2
 Im glad you test the flagship model bikes. They make cheaper packages. RC says this is a fast nimble and stable 29er. Does spesh make a 26 inch version. I would luv to see a comparison between the two. To help me to understand which wheel is better for me.
  • + 1
 An Australian mag had s-works 26 and 29 for comparison. Basically claimed that they were both great but excelled in different areas. Why not just wait 6months and get a 650 enduro?
  • + 1
 @panaphonic, do you have the magazine name which did this comparison?
  • + 1
 Revolution. It wasn't a very good article through. They didn't go into it very much. Just the usual "26 is better in the steep/tight, 29 is better in the wider/flowy stuff".
  • + 2
 Cheers, haven't been able to find a good comparison just yet. Would be great to see it.

@Sshredder, I have been riding a 26er S-Works for a year now and I can honestly say it's an unbelivable bike in all aspects. I am more DH orientated and I have hardly touched my Demo 8 since I got the Enduro. I also had an SX Trail which I sold to fund the Enduro and when pointing down, both bikes feel very similar which gives you a pretty good idea on how this bike chews the DH.

The wheel size debate is never ending so I am personally see it based on my height. (taller people should defo be riding 29er for example). I am 5'9" so 26er would always be the choice. Have tried 27.5 on other brands, don't see the benefit to change either.
  • + 4
 What is ridiculous nonsense is giving medium people a 60mm stem, fine, large people a 75mm stem and me, I get a bloody 90mm stem! What have I done to deserve that?! Lol.
  • + 2
 i'm more upset about no small size.
  • + 6
 I'll wait for the $15,000 27.5 version to come out
  • + 4
 Think your selves lucky in the states! Over here they just change the dollar sign to a pound sign instantly and for no reason other than they can doubling the price.
  • + 2
 As someone who actually owns this bike and who's best mate owns one as well. I will add 4 things.

1) Hookless rims suck, anything under 30psi in tubless and they burp. When they do... They will unbead both beads on both sides of the tyres and you will not inflate them trail side without a CO2 cartridges. Have had 4 rides cut short due to this. 1 for me 3 for my mate.

2) the Command post is so problematic Specialized keep stock on hand to replace them under warranty. 2 already on my mates bike. Mine ok so far but does have engaging issues occasionally.

3) note in the review the cane creek rear shock failed. Mine did too. Complete shock failure spewed its oil all over the bike.

4) why the he'll this bike didn't come with The dual position fork confounds me. It's a big bike. Its tall, very tall. On steep climbs I really want a lower front end.

To the person complaining of why it has an Aluminium rear end. The 2013 had full carbon and most of them were replaced under warranty fir cracking issues. Yet I are common for this too!
  • + 6
 Own brand parts at almost ten grand? Really?
  • + 5
 There should be LOTS of ENVE carbon and other expensive stuff for that price
  • + 2
 Printing that name on the downtube costs a lot... to the buyer, anyway.
  • + 3
 The wheels are as good as ENVE wheels though
  • + 1
 @ headhunter: EXACTLY!!! That's all most of these prices are about, brand names! It's ridiculous, if you look at brands like Radon, the best value you can possibly find for the components on the bike, and nobody has heard of them, and that is why they cost so little!
  • + 1
 Groghunter sorry haha Smile
  • + 2
 That's right. There's so many European (mostly German) brands that are super cheap with top level components. YT industries, Radon, Canyon and much more. It's Good that Fabien Barel is riding with Canyon nowadays so they get noticed outside the Europe as well.
  • + 1
 I'm sure specialized can knock out a decent pair of handlebars though. I mean, if you don't trust them to make decent ones why buy the bike?
  • + 2
 I find it strange that such a large company charges so much for their top of the line spec. 9k to 10k is high end boutique brand territory I.e a Bronson or Tracer T275 with Enve wheels etc. Is it too much to expect that one of the 3 biggest bike manufacturers would spec similarly as the aforementioned examples and sell at a cheaper price because they can relative to the boutique brands? How do the other big manufacturers sell their high end house band specked bikes for less? Why buy this bike when assuming you have the money, you can get something a little more fancy without house brand parts everywhere.
P.S I realise house brand parts aren't necessarily bad, it's just that if you're dropping that money, who won't go for the bling?
  • + 1
 Great review and great bike for sure. I must say though, even if I was rolling in cash, I'd rather buy the comp, use the money saved to build up trails, go on a few epic bike trips, and personally progress as a rider with more seat time vs better equipment. Different strokes for different folks tho.
  • + 4
 If you can't afford it, don't buy it. Simple. Someone will get a great deal when they pick one up used.
  • + 1
 The extension bolted to the shock really bugs me....same with on the Pivot Mach 6 and the Kona Process frames. This extension will increase the tendency for buckling, since the column length is increasing relative to the loading. Also, any flex from the increased length will side load the shock during compression, increasing friction and wear.

Doing a few quick calcs using the Euler column formula with some simplifying assumptions (same column stiffness and second area moment, which are decent assumptions for quick calcs) and using an 8.5" shock with a 4" extension: The shock alone will be able to handle approximately 2.2 times the load of the shock + extension without buckling. That is a pretty substantial difference. Look up the driving factors for buckling and you will see length is the driving factor.

I'm sure it works fine most of the time, but I could see this setup doing hidden long-term damage to the shocks via increased side loading compared to normal. Also, I really HATE how Specialized decided to use a proprietary shock mount, whereas the rest of the competition uses the standard. That alone is a reason for me to pass on buying one of these bikes.
  • + 1
 Does anyone realise Specialized brought the price down by $750 over last year's. Also the Stumpy and Epic are over $10k. Putting that into perspective with road bikes. A top of the line Bianchi or Colnago in$15k plus. They do not gave any moving parts except drive train.

I can't believe how much mountain bikers bitch about pricing of everything. $100 tyre is an international conspiracy.
Mountain bike riders are such a bunch of cheapskate tightarses.
  • + 1
 I own one of the less expensive models and I can still agree with everything Mr. Levy has to say. You really do get the best of both worlds. You get the rolling speed, traction and confidence inspiring stability of a 29er with the nimbleness and playful spirit of a 26. After one ride I was completely in love with this bike. (not this one exaclty, but a similar, less expensive version).
  • + 1
 Nice review. I for one thought the metaphors were creative. Good work Mike.

I have this bike. It is a blast. Makes me better than my natural talent allows on the downs, and the bike climbs very, very well, even w/o the CS switch in the on position.

I have several other bikes - hard tail, VPP, DW-Link, fully rigid, XC, Trail, Fat... I love them all and ride them all.

The S-Works E29 needs almost nothing from it's stock config - I subbed a Renthal Fatbar lite Carbon at 740mm, and Conti Mountain King Protection 2.4s F&R.

I'm blessed to be able to ride what I like.

When I take trips to MTB meccas in North America I rent whatever the tour company has, and I'm perfectly happy riding their bikes. It is a great experience and opportunity to try out other bikes, geos, components. When you're out on the trail, it doesn't matter what you have in your garage...you 'gotta run what you brung'. This has, for me at least, made me a better, more adaptable, rider.
  • + 1
 Price, yes, cheaper. I would't say any are "cheap" though. Even with carbon wheels on the C29 and Bronson you're spending less money. I do want to try out the E29 again this year when I have the chance, hopefully a non S-Works model.
  • + 1
 Yup, this was supposed to be a reply in another thread. No delete button, damn you Pinkbike!
  • + 4
 All bikes in this price range are good anyways...Pick your favorite and go ride.
  • + 3
 Not a bad price..........................................................................................................................................
  • + 1
 Little 26” wheels will always be more fun, no matter what they do with the geometry of 29ers. I own both a SC Nomad and a short CS/wheel base Devinci Atlas 29er and the Nomad is much more playful and fun bike to ride. The Atlas is not bad but you can still feel the big slow turning wheels.
  • + 1
 For the life of me, I can't understand why the various sites that review this bike talk endlessly about how this big-wheeler compares to smaller wheeled bikes, yet they choose to ignore the obvious comparison...SW Enduro 29er vs SW Enduro 26er. That is what I did, and guess what? For the steep technical NW riding I do, the 26er ruled. It's total BS to talk about how the wagon-wheeled version of this bike compares to a smaller-wheeled version of....a different bike. Seriously? That's apples to oranges.
  • + 4
 So the complimentary date with the 10k hooker went alright then eh Mike? Gutter glitter and all..
  • + 5
 over 9 grand and aluminium stays??? f*ck off Specialized
  • + 19
 Yeah, for that money I want carbon tyres and carbon grips.
  • + 1
 Well, people can afford a $10k bike it's just a matter of whether or not they believe it's worth it.

For example a motorcycle like a Susuki Hayabusa fully loaded is around $15k. Granted it is faster and has a legit motor that'll make you feel as if you're going warp speed.

Still, it's $15k yet people will buy it because they feel it's worth it.

All I'm saying is it's subjective to a point when it comes to pricing. Companies learn from sales and the bottom line. If there are people who believe something is worth the price and buy it then companies will continue to mark up prices. Even if that technology isn't advanced or costly to make. After all they have to market the stuff and that in itself isn't cheap.
  • - 2
 If i'm paying 10k for a bike it better have a bloody engine so i'm not blowing steam outta my arse. obviously the bike companies must be seeing the number's coming in to warrant producing these bikes but really, is a 10k bike going to make you a better rider? I'd love to hear the conversation's being made to those wives out there on how this bike for 10k is sooo worth it........
  • + 2
 Specialized massively overpriced I had 2010 Enduro good fit to the bike but Spesh own parts are dog shit bike fell to pieces in 10 months. MBR just did Enduro bike test carbon Enduro 8/10 YT Capra 10/10 and 5 grand cheaper.
  • + 5
 Yeah when do we get a Capra test?
  • + 1
 I am going to have to buy that issue once it gets here.
  • + 1
 Pandaphonic there isn't really a great deal of info in the review but they did say it climbs like a trail bike and descends like a DH bike, big claims! I have had another look and the Enduro reviewed it is not the S works but a carbon one but can't imagine there's that much difference. I defiantly think bike prices are getting out of hand and companies like YT are going to become more common. I think Dirt are doing an enduro bike test this month maybe some more info in that. For 10 grand I would want full carbon frame and top notch kit not Specialized's own kit. Also I have Bos rare forks and shock on my big bike and they are absolutely amazing the small bump compliance is something else I can ride DH all day without any arm pump!
  • + 1
 Actually is says a lot more than that in the MBR review! They also say the E29 is great but comes with some crap components like 750mm bars and a 70mm stem etc or it would have rated higher. Not that I'm taking anything away from the Capra. It looks great. Although the lack of bottle cage would be a hard one for me as I hate packs. Interesting to see how many guys were ditching packs and running bottles at the recent EWS.
  • + 1
 YT & when it breaks, you have the problems of dealing with a company in Germany. The forums are littered with people who are having issues with bikes sold in this direct sell market (Canyon/YT/etc) who can't get a response, huge delays, issues they can't get resolved etc.

Not to mention BOS - the brand that's now on it's 4th UK distributor in 5 years because they are a nightmare to deal with. Give me suspension that I can actually get serviced and fixed anyday.

It's hard to look past the value of the YT, but then if any brand sold direct, they would be just as comparably cheap. They arn't some miracle unicorn brand.
  • + 1
 I also bought a Specialized Enduro 2010 and the thing fell to pieces in 10 months all the own brand stuff was crap developed play in the frame my dealer said they couldn't fix had 600 quid bill after 10 months I told my dealer i wasn't happy with the quality of the product and they basically said tough shit sell it on, had to threaten take them to the small claims court before they would fix it so just because you buy from a dealer doesn't mean your goin have less trouble with a bike. I will never buy another Specialized as I now run an Orange Five and it's getting ridden the same on the same trails and it's holding up fine.
  • + 1
 Agree, just because you do it doesn't automatically mean they will fix things... However, despite the issues, and your threats, try taking a company to Germany in court... The warranty you have is with the dealer anyway, not with Specialized. Consumer law is sometimes a bit odd in the way it works.
  • + 0
 Eat my nuts Specialized. $9250? Even if you weren't such a shitty brand it'd still be retarded. What happened, you tryin' to make back all the money you didn't get from suing a bike shop owner? f*cking artificially high priced junk. They make these things for the weenies that use iPhones & drive Volkswagons. :/
  • + 2
 Everyone's over here like, "stop whining, quit bitchin, 9k, it's too much," and I'm over here like, I love my '11 Enduro comp.
  • + 0
 There are over a dozen Trail/AM/Enduro bikes in this price range. Add DH and you get over two dozen, and add road bikes and I'm guessing that number doubles. Why is everyone suddenly pissed off? It's not like this is suddenly the price of entry for all mountain bikes. Hell, you can get a Walmart special for a buck fifty (which I bet is much better than the top end mountain bikes of the early 1990's), you can find a host of full suspension Mongoose and Diamondbacks for under $1,000 (which are, by most accounts, pretty good for their price points), and the $1,000-$4,000 segment is absolutely PACKED with big name, small name and direct to consumer brands. There has never been a better time to be a mountain biker, and there has never been so many quality choices available to the consumer at such a low price point.

Quit whining. Get riding.
  • + 0
 I wonder if prices will plummet down if mountain bikers stopped forking out the cash altogether for a year or two. After all, our bikes should lasts us long enough anyways.

I'm guilty of paying "too much" for a bike as well but I was really aware of how stupidly expensive bicycles has become.
  • + 1
 Money grabbing bastards lmao !!! This won't do anything my Sultan can't do? Anything over £2.5k ain't worth it... and bike resale is shit also... You lose so much by buying new !!
  • + 3
 +9k and aluminium rear end? I know it really "doesn't matter", but still......
  • + 0
 Sorry for the comparison, but i`m a 1.84 m tall guy and i have a hartail 29er (i know you cannot compare a hardtail to a fully) and it descends like crap . waiting for a couple of years before this 10k bike will be full upgraded(geo and stuff) than this days(like they had nothin' to do at 26' wheels bikes so they passed to bigger wheels) and it'll cost less . In the meanwhile, as another rider sayd earlier, we nowdays have the same problem as we have with most cars, the bike costs like 4k and the frame with the name written in gold costs the other 6 k . Good luck on buying it ! Smile
  • + 0
 9k for a bike is ridiculous, we are slowly killing the MTB industry by allowing these companies to get away with 9k bikes, the sad part is that there is some idiot out there who doesn't mind dropping the 9k without even questioning why the bike cost 9k, its a faking bike made in taiwan like any other, what on this bike can honestly warrant 9k?

Pinkbike is this a sponsored ad from Specialized or do you guys really think a 9k bike is healthy for our sport?
  • + 2
 Most controversial bike ever. Every PB post has around 80 comments and this blows up to 300. Mention 29 and Specialized and shit gets real.
  • + 2
 "Why the complaints? You'll still have $750 left of your $10k to buy a helmet, shoes and kt…. well, a helmet and shoes anyways."

Not after $624.38 in taxes where I live.
  • + 1
 Well the cheaper version "Specialized Enduro 29 Comp" works awesome so why shall i pay 3 times more?

even in bikeparks! check my video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXwpGFwpFYA
  • + 1
 The smart money is on buying the Comp and upgrading whatever needs it. Specialized is notorious for down-spec'ing suspension parts and using their house-branded stuff on everything. But the Comp, spend $2k on whatever fancy stuff you like and still haven't reached the $6300 tag on the cheapest carbon model. Plus it's alloy so you won't fret about messing it up.
  • + 2
 It seems the S_works 29er has been reviewed by nearly every magazine and online site, now it is just a chance to ride a $10,000 bike.
  • + 1
 I have the enduro 29 2013, it comes with a 150mm. But the new model comes with a 160mm, and I was thinking of buying the new pike 160mm for my bike.
Anyone think that this is ok?
  • + 1
 The French they say "Gaver" or to shove. In making goose pate, you shove a funnel down the goose's throat and shove the food in. The funnel is now made of carbon fiber and comes in three different sizes.
  • + 0
 Price aside, does anyone else find it funny that every other mag and online review company states it climbs a little poorly, but PB is the only place saying it climbs like a goat? Why is it that PB is rarely honest about the bike. If it climbs more poorly that other bikes, which is what everyone else seems to have found, say so. PB and Spec have been pretty cute with each other lately.
  • + 6
 Maybe PB can set sag better. They kind of stated that in the article.
  • + 1
 It's not about sag, it's about the suspension design itself and how short the stays are. It makes the bike very active on the downs, which is what we all love, but literally every other source is saying they climb a bit mediocre, at best. Most reviewers are saying it tends to wander up hills and doesn't keep traction nearly as well as many of the other big dollar bikes. Sorry, for ten thousand dollars, if a bike has an issue, it really should be noted, even if it's tiny. If you're really about to say that PB is the only website that knows how to set sag, I've no idea how to respond. A fairly well respected forum member not too long ago gave one of my favorite reviews on it thus far. No media bias, no paychecks in pocket. He got the alloy version, tossed a carbon wheelset in, and went riding. He's now trying to sell it. His end idea of the bike was that it's a fair lot of fun, but the hype it's been getting lately is well out of proportion. It's not to say the Enduro is a bad bike, it just has faults like anything else. PB fails to note a lot of these faults as they seem to be pretty deep in Spec's wallet. I think a few of us saw Spec posting an article through Levy's account and were a bit annoyed. This shit should really stop and make way for real journalism.
  • + 2
 Real journalism? This is mountain biking news. If it's not enduro or Canadians doing skids, then what else is there to write about?

Do you have any links to these negative reviews? It won the mtbr enduro shoot out, bike mag gave it rave reviews, nsmb gave it rave reviews, early tests on PB gave it rave reviews, where are these bad ones? There are threads several pages long on mtbr without a single negative review. I don't get it?

Finally, there's more to climbing than purely technical performance. Perhaps the enduro has the right blend of decent traction capability with excellent geometry?

I think you need to give one a ride before you knock it. It is a supremely capable bike.
  • + 0
 Why are you defending the bike? I'm not talking down on it. It's one of the best bikes of the year and I have nothing to say against that. I do know that everything has a fault, and many people are noting the FSR and short rear end makes the bike wander on climbs, and doesn't give ample traction. My post is about PB's hype centric journalism style, rather than stating the truth. Double bullshit when they say at the end how they have to be critical of the bike, after essentially giving it a slow jerk for the last twenty minutes.

Go look in the forums, either here or MTBR, and talk about how FSR climbs. You will get a lot of feedback. Even within this article, they hint at it not being very efficient on the climbs, but quickly get off that track, lest they say anything but amazing things about this bike.

I think you need to reread what I am getting at before you blindly defend something I wasn't attacking.
  • + 12
 People are disagreeing with you because it seems you lack reading comprehension skills. Here's a direct quote from the article:

"And that's where the E29 shines, by letting you carry more momentum up those tricky sections not because it pedals better (it certainly doesn't, by the way), but because it handles so well exactly where you don't expect it to."

And again:

"You'll feel like a champ during such times, but, just as with other times in life, things aren't so pretty when the lights get turned on. In the E29's case the lights get flicked on during smoother climbs, and it's moments when you're able to think more about pedalling circles than not clipping your pedals on a root or rock that you realize it doesn't exactly jump forward with any sort of real zip. There are bikes with similar travel that feel more alive during such times - Banshee's Rune or the new Slash come to mind - but flipping the shock's CS lever does add some needed zest to its on-power performance."

I own the Comp version of this bike and can tell you without a doubt that Levy is on-point.

Right there, in black and white, he's telling you that the bike doesn't pedal all the great, particularly on smooth climbs. What is lacks in pedal efficiency, it makes up with spot-on geo and exceptional traction.

Just read what's written instead of re-writing it in your own mind. Jeez, dude ...
  • - 6
flag sherbet Plus (Apr 21, 2014 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 Good post, you illustrated my point! That entire paragraph is very optimistic about how it climbs, then midway through it, they briefly note it's not very efficient on the climbs, then IMMEDIATELY go back to using shitty sexual comparisons to say is climbs well. It either climbs better than the rest, or it doesn't. PB doesn't want to say it doesn't climb as well as a VPP or DW bike, but they won't outright say it, they'll briefly get at it then go back to saying it's the best bike ever. THAT is what I am getting at. Glad you can confirm we've just read the same thing. Would be nice if someone actually read what I wrote before going against it. I said this shit in my first and second posts. Cheers.
  • + 7
 OK, man. Is English your second language? I don't mean to be offensive, it just seems like you're completely misinterpreting what is being written.

No second- or third-hand BS, I own the aluminum version (with custom wheels, XX1, etc.) and I ride in Phoenix (testing was in Sedona). I'll tell you straight away, Levy's review is spot-on. Period. He's telling you in no uncertain terms that the bike doesn't pedal well in comparison in other bikes, but that the geo and supple suspension have a way of making up for that in technical climbing terrain.
  • - 7
flag sherbet Plus (Apr 21, 2014 at 8:41) (Below Threshold)
 I don't understand the question. You can very plainly see I am conversing with you fluidly. English is my first language, and is one I am very common with. If you feel the need to post rubbish like that, it's likely because you have nothing else to bring to the table.

You may agree with the review, I don't agree with how the review is being presented. I'd ask if English were your second language, considering you still can't grasp that extrodinarily small concept. The bike is incredibly, the bullshit reviewing and not mentioning how it climbs fairly poorly compared to other bikes, rather saying it climbs well while BARELY telling the true (oh but it doesn't pedal well at all) is such horseshit. He doesn't try to make note of the bike pedalling poorly, he tries to brush it under the table so he can go back to giving the enduro a slow jerk.

You like the review. The majority of people on this page do not. There are good reasons for that. Use some critical thinking and you may see the issues too.
  • + 8
 Cool, dude. We'll agree to disagree. I neither like nor dislike the review. Based on my firsthand experience, though, it's dead-nuts accurate. At the end of the day, that's pretty high-praise. The majority of the people on PB comments section don't like ANYTHING. Using that as a basis for comparison is pretty weak.
  • + 5
 Sherbet, you know that FSR is a description of a linkage, right? It's not a fully encompassed suspension system, like dw-link. The kinematics on the enduro and honestly all of the 2014 bikes have been reworked from years past. I agree with you, the older specialized bikes did not pedal well. They were solely focused on being supple and independent of braking/pedaling forces. These newer bikes are actually trying to use chain torque to make the bike pedal better, just like DW and others do as well.

On that note, these bikes are the real deal, it's not a lie, it's not cheating, it's not something that every reviewer that has ridden one has conspired to cheat you on, it's the truth. You can check out the kinematics and see that it's actually a decent system. You can compare the geometry and see why the bike rides the way that it does. It's true that it's a bit of a mushy pedaler, as the bike is very sensitive to chainring size, and spec chose to equip it with a 32t ring. It would be much more sprightly with a 28 or 30t ring. Spec spent all that effort on the taco blade then XX1 negated it, but the bike climbs exceptionally well with a 22t ring, which puts anti-squat numbers over 100% and makes it climb as well as any bike I've ridden, including hardtails and XC bikes. The forward position of the seat tube, something other manufacturers haven't grasped yet, keeps the front end planted despite the long reach and short stem. Again, not lies, the truth. Slap a 50mm on a bike with a 69* seat angle and you'll loop out every time, but this bike has the equivalent of a 74* seat tube, and it's worlds better for it.

And it's not blind faith that I say this with. I also own the $3500 comp version of this bike. I think it's incredible, but it's certainly not without its flaws. It's a bit portly to spend all day on, it's mushy in the big ring, and the fox shock is a bit anemic compared to the rest of the rather incredible spec.
  • + 3
 I agree - if a magazine positively reviews a product by some company that I don't like it MUST be collusion!
  • + 7
 I find it funny that you're complaining about the author "using shitty sexual comparisons", yet you go on to say the author is "essentially giving it a slow jerk." How does that fit into your whole self-righteousness routine?
  • + 3
 C'mon, give the guy a break. For someone to interpret:

"it doesn't exactly jump forward with any sort of real zip. There are bikes with similar travel that feel more alive during such times - Banshee's Rune or the new Slash come to mind."

to

"not mentioning how it climbs fairly poorly compared to other bikes, rather saying it climbs well"

There's absolutely no helping or convincing him even though to a normal person these two statements are completely contrary to each other.
  • - 1
 I ride a Cannondale Prophet and I have Nokian ice studded tyres on it, Thats how that bike will be treated, Cool its good. My $3600 enduro 29 isnt home yet but I cant wait to get on my fave trails, Im sure that I will get to upgrade a dew parts over the next few years.The reason these bikes cost what they do is because essentially they are motosross bikes with ourselves as the motor. I gewt a great motocrosser with mo motor will be close.
  • - 1
 Honestly, that review was so full of S-love it almost made me puke...
I can't believe that 29er with FSR suspension and 155mm of travel climbs "like a devil" and to be honest- I can't find any proof that this bike shreds the gnar almost as easy as a downhill rig, especially when there's not a single photo of U Guys ripping some hardcore terrain on it.

I'm not saying that this bike isn't the game changer, but U going so nuts about it is kinda suspicious...
  • + 3
 Literally every review of this bike (and I mean the S-Works 2014 spec bike) has read along the same lines. It isn't a conspiracy, it's just a damn good (and expensive) bike.
  • + 2
 When will we get a real Downhill Mountain bike review? I'm tired of all this Enduro/Trail bike stuff. Just saying.
  • + 2
 When downhill becomes more popular than all mountain. You get downhill reviews periodically... where's my carbon xc 29er hardtail review? See? Same thing.
  • + 4
 blog.amandabatty.com/2014/04/how-to-save-downhill-mountain-biking.html

Downhill racing is a dying discipline...I've raced DH for years, but as I get older, have kids, etc, the risks just aren't worth it and the "Enduro" format provides a much more attractive alternative. The above link is an interesting read on the state of DH racing.
  • - 1
 Thanks for the link, good article indeed. What I got from it, - we need to market it better, well what better place than PB. All the more reason to have DH bikes reviewed on a more frequent basis.
  • + 3
 Unfortunately, Pinkbike is not here to create and push an agenda, but rather to report on trends and what the market demands...which is currently trail/am/enduro bikes and the growing discipline of Enduro.

In a few short years it's seems that Enduro has supplanted DH as the preeminent discipline in MTB riding & racing.
  • + 2
 "In a few short years it's seems that Enduro has supplanted DH as the preeminent discipline in MTB riding & racing."
I can certainly agree with that.
  • + 1
 This line really stood out to me, "downhill mountain biking never was and never will be an 'every man' sport". I agree with the sentences about risk of bodily harm but I don't think that's the main reason downhill isn't that big. Downhill is largely a regional thing too. Endurance-related events make more sense in places where you don't have a lot of vertical. Downhill just isn't as accessible to them majority of cyclists.
  • + 1
 Interesting how this article ended up on the PB homepage
  • + 1
 If the manufacturers were smart, they should just talk about the prices of their products since the prices of bikes gets more reviews than the bikes being reviewed LOL
  • + 3
 ...too afraid to get sued anyway....
  • + 2
 That looks like a prick of a climb, and if you don't make it you're cactus.
  • + 1
 10k with cable routing from a $10 Penny Farthing, why the hell cant Specialised sort this crap out, dam shame rest of the bike is sic
  • + 2
 I really like that photo of Mike doing the drop - it's one of those 'That could be me' kind of shots.
  • + 3
 The original enduro specific bike
  • + 1
 The original "enduro" jargon branded bike. I have seen more 2005/2006 Cannondale Prophets and Giant Reigns ripping up Enduro races and all mountain trails than even close to the number of pre-2009 Specialized "Enduro's" in the last 5 years.
  • + 2
 better buy a frame and customize your own enduro for 10k. Would look much cooler then this one!!
  • + 3
 I want to make sweet, slow love to this bike.
  • + 2
 9k an no internal cable routing ...
  • + 1
 I was thinking the same thing. It's about time Specialized gets on this band wagon. I've had a few Spec bikes and the under-tube cabling has never really been an issue. But, that was with 2 or 3 ring set-ups and aluminum tubing… with 1x11 the cables hang lower than the chain ring and are at much greater risk of being a snag point and any smart carbon rider will put a protective coating on the under side of the down tube to protect the carbon, well, have fun with that on a Speciliazed frame...
  • + 2
 @mikelevy, how does the bike compares with the S-Works 26"?
  • + 1
 Is the price a prothotype? I mean... c´mon!! too much expensive... too much poor i am Frown
  • + 0
 I'd be interested to see someone attempt to adjust the dampening on that DBAir, looks like there isn't any room to get the allen key in there, let alone turn it.
  • + 2
 You get a special key (comes with the shock) to adjust the damping on the DBair. No allen key fits on those adjustment knobs anyways.
  • + 1
 Yes a "special" 3mm Allen key.
  • + 1
 I have a DBAirCS myself, and any 3mm allen key will fit it as long as you have enough clearance. It just looks like there isnt enough to get it in there at all.
  • + 1
 That bike comes in over 9k, but this one is under 8K. www.kawasaki.com/Products/product-specifications.aspx?id=705
  • + 1
 Yummy looking bike. But for near 10k they better throw in a free bottle cage...
  • + 2
 When was the last time it won anything of any note?
  • + 28
 Well specialized spent most of their money on Gwin, and the rest on helicopters to film Keene riding fireroads, so they cant afford an enduro team this year sadly.
  • + 5
 gwin won sea otter on it last year and mitch ropelato qualified first at world champs on it last year.
  • + 1
 So next to nothing then! If it was my money I'd be looking at a proven bike like the Cannondale Jekyll
  • + 8
 Gwin won at PMB on a one off Enduro
  • + 5
 To judge what bike you choose to buy based on the results of a PROFESSIONAL rider is absolutely crazy. If Jerome Clementz was being PAID by a Specialized team and therefore riding a Specialized there's just as good of a chance of him winning on that as well.....Professionals could ride a plank of wood and be faster than the average punter, all the reputable bike brands are proven end of story. Pick the bike YOU like to ride the most not what you see a bloke riding that would win on anything they are being paid to ride.

To say the S-Works is not a proven bike is a joke and i think you seriously need to reevaluate what proven truly means.

By the way, didn't Gwin win sea otter on the same bike last year? Hmmm I guess its still not proven..........
  • + 10
 You lost me at "I'd rather have a Cannondale"...
  • + 2
 I wonder if by 'proven' he means the fact the Jekyll won the first EWS. I might be wrong. I also think it is wrong, because if Jerome had been on an enduro it would be 'proven'. When nothing is proven, other than Jerome being quick.
  • + 1
 The results of pro riders makes no difference to me, i judge which bike I choose to buy on whether the company has threatened a small bike shop with legal action recently :p
  • + 1
 What makes me laugh is when people get more upset about (I'm not referring to you bud, I get your gag) a big bike company being a bully than they do about the murdering, lying, thieving, stealing, f*ckwits that run all western countries. 'Who cares what they're up to... Look over there.. A big bike company is being nasty to a little bike company! That's outrageous".
  • + 1
 Its too much of a gamble tp race the EWS on a 29er with the market ablaze with 650b. The demo was hit big time last year when Gwin did so poorly on it. Unless this bike wins the overall, it woul be perceived as "not as good as 650b." Winning a championship is a team effort. Its more than just the bike and rider.
  • + 0
 Anyone who buys a bike based on which pro is winning on it needs to get their head examined.
  • + 1
 gwin went to specialized so i did too
  • + 1
 I have three of this bike in my garage with enve wheels and renthal carbon bar. Nuff said!!!
  • + 1
 You can almost get 2 Pivot Mach429 carbon bikes loaded with kashima crap and all that with that money...
  • + 2
 Now, let's place all Specialized haters ! It will be funny !
  • + 2
 Specialized sucks
  • + 1
 alize > allez
  • + 2
 I think the alloy version is a better value
  • + 0
 MSRP of a 2014 KTM 300 XCW is just $8499; and I can't believe I'm typing "just". When did mountain bikes surpass motos in price? I'll pass. Good review though.
  • + 2
 KX 250F or Enduro. . . . hmmmmmmm
  • + 3
 Agree there totally. For 10k I can get a kx250 (2stroke) a BMW m5 2001 model and an older Enduro evo. I know what I'd do.....
  • + 1
 Besides price, how can you compare the two? Yes they both have two wheels and you ride them off road. Completely different applications, ongoing costs and availability of places to ride. You might as well compare the specialized to a $10,000.00 horse. It all comes down to what people are willing to pay to participate in an activity. There are more expensive hobbies and less expensive, and thats OK.
  • + 1
 9k or not but, this is one sick rig! i wish i could have one, maybe Pb can review the entry level enduro 29er :-)
  • + 1
 Digging this bike, get one if you can. Flies up and down.
  • + 1
 Now do a test on the on one codeine , it looks immense
  • - 1
 Yeah, and what.. Half the price? I know what I'd buy if I wanted a fun and fast 29er.
  • + 0
 9200.00 my ass !!!!, I have a pimped out enduro comp 29er that kicks ass for just under 4000.00
  • + 1
 How's it compare to the process 111 mike?
  • - 3
 Typical big mags and PB being on their knees for Specialized. I demoed the Aluminum version with a pike twice now; once at Boulder City Nevada/bootleg canyon and the other time in Bend Oregon and was not impressed. Specifically, the 2014 GT Force Carbon I also demoed in Bootleg canyon climbed better, descended better and was more playful. In Bend, Oregon I also demoed the Cannondale Trigger 29er at the same time and the trigger was more enjoyable on all aspects (yes even off drops etc.. even though it only had 130mm travel=leftymax stiff as a beast!). I will say this though, the Pike is far and away better than any of the Fox Fit forks in terms of feel, stiffness, damping etc...

Maybe if I spent $9000 instead of $5000-7000, this bike would somehow transform and suddenly be better than the other bikes that I demoed. Or it might just be another poorly pedaling, low bb, flexy rear-ended FSR (there is a reason for all those linkages and hunks of metal on the Demo bikes, minimization of flex with FSR linkages!).
  • + 1
 I just wanna know how much the frame is worth
  • + 1
 Very good job with S-Works Enduro 29 I give it 5 stars
  • + 2
 Gutter glitter??..
  • + 3
 BrilliNt, that ones in the bank with "the devils dandruff" and "marching powder"
  • + 1
 Hope my ccbd air doesn't fail.
  • + 1
 I have tried the same bike , only one word, S P E C T A C U L A R !!!
  • + 0
 Specialized $-Works Enduro.
  • + 0
 Congrats, now mountainbiking is officialy the most expensive sport ever.
  • + 17
 The S-Works is one bike in a range of bikes, with all others costing quite a bit less. You can spend far less and get a great machine.
  • - 3
 But you don't get ALL of the goodness - even if its just a mental rather than performance goodness.
  • + 3
 not uncommon for top end road bikes to go over $14k
  • + 3
 I thought Pinarello's went up to the low $20'ks. I'm pretty sure Motorsports cost more Flying planes can't be cheap.
  • + 11
 I think sailing and F1 racing cost a little more to get into.
  • + 1
 No its not... Road racing bikes are more expensive, and don't get me started on the folks into road touring, especially not the ones with tandems.
  • + 4
 I'd also argue that you get way more for your money these days as well. The S-Works is pricey, no argument there, but plenty of less expensive bikes come with great suspension and things like dropper posts, 1 x 11 drivetrains, and awesome wheels and tires. Go back a decade and see it they compare.
  • + 2
 Try airplane racing, then you'll know what "expensive" truly is
  • + 6
 I don't know about that, but it certainly seems like the whiniest sport ever....
  • - 4
flag ridethree (Apr 21, 2014 at 14:06) (Below Threshold)
 Ok ,maybe I was wrong and it is not the most expensive sport ever but mountainbikes have an extremely high price and it doesn't look like they will become any cheaper any time soon.
  • + 1
 ridethree - you obviously never played golf
  • + 0
 Carbon wheels but no carbon handlebar? hmmm...
  • + 0
 and the rich Kiddies be like:" Mommy i need this Bike " !!!
  • - 1
 how much of this is mark-up- f*ck off specialized
or anyone making 10000$ bicycles
  • + 0
 KTM dirtbike or a Spesh E29? BRAAAP
  • + 0
 This was not a review , its just specialized money at work .
  • + 0
 I wonder why they didn't match the front with a new Vivid air.....
  • + 2
 .....it would climb like a pogo stick.
  • + 0
 $9250 wow!! Veyron of 29'er
  • - 2
 Would love to ride this bike. Just to see how much of a waste of money it actually is!
  • + 1
 I rode it at Outerbike and was not impressed (the price was always in the back of my mind). I enjoyed both the Intense Carbine 29 and SC Bronson more than the S-Works E29, and they had alloy wheels. I did try all three bikes with Enve AM wheels as well, and still liked the C29 and SC Bronson more.
  • + 0
 Is Bronson or Carbine 29 "cheaper" than Enduro 29?
  • + 1
 Price, yes, cheaper. I would't say any are "cheap" though. Even with carbon wheels on the C29 and Bronson you're spending less money. I do want to try out the E29 again this year when I have the chance, hopefully a non S-Works model.
  • - 1
 Nice bike, ugly helmetSmile )
  • - 3
 just no
  • + 5
 why not ??
  • + 7
 Let's see... Because there are tens of other bikes that will give you the same pleasure of riding, but cheaper. You won't see a big difference if you're not a pro rider
  • + 2
 So get one of the cheaper builds of the E29...
  • - 2
 9k ridiculous nonsense
  • - 1
 Is this enduro?
  • + 19
 No, this is Sparta.
  • - 1
 And cane creek.
  • - 2
 You could go Camber Evo and cut your buy in cost.
  • + 2
 Or, a more fair comparison, get a lower end Enduro for half that price. Comparing to a Camber is apples and oranges.
  • + 2
 sorry, wrong travel bike. my mistake
  • + 1
 No worries man, your point was still illustrated.
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