Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 - Review

Apr 6, 2015
by Rachelle Frazer Boobar  
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO.

Specialized have been catering to the fairer sex long before the recent renaissance took hold of the market, and with a history dating back to 2002 that includes the 120mm Safire and the 100mm Myka, it was only a matter of time before a competitive 29er would be added into the mix. In 2013, around the peak of wagon wheels' popularity, Specialized took the DNA of their successful Camber and give it a sister. The Rumor was born as a 110mm bike intended for cross-country use, but with feedback coming in from the field that told Specialized that the ladies were looking for something with a little more chutzpah, the Rumor Expert EVO took shape. Adorned with a 120mm RockShox Pike RC Solo Air, a 120mm FSR rear end, slacker EVO geometry and a badass looking matte black paint job, the Rumor Expert EVO will have heads turning no matter what your gender.



Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Details

• Intended use: cross-country / trail
• Wheel size: 29''
• Rear wheel travel: 120mm
• Alloy frame
• RockShox Pike w/ 120mm of travel
• FOX Float CTD shock w/ Autosag and custom EVO tune
• Sizes: S, M, L
• Weight: 27.4lb (size M, w/o pedals, tubeless)
• MSRP: $5,000 USD
www.specialized.com, @Specialized




Frame Details

Specialized have taken the frame design of the Camber and re-jigged it to suit smaller riders, and the similarities between the two bikes are visibly clear. The most notable difference, however, lies in the front triangle. Taking the technology they had developed over the years from the Safire, Specialized uses a two-piece forged aluminum top tube which allowed engineers to lower the standover height of the bike by over an inch. Our medium test bike came in at 710mm, and to give you a bit of a comparison, a medium sized Camber would measure in at 741mm. It should be noted, though, that the Rumor's frame sizing is smaller than the standard line of Specialized bikes. When designing the front triangle, the team were adamant that no features would be lost when going to the smaller sizing, right down to the bottle cage. So, despite the seemingly tiny area left to work with, they managed to include a bottle mount, leaving hydration packs optional instead of mandatory.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
The two-piece forged aluminum top tube creates a lower standover height.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
Even with a smaller front triangle there's still room for Specialized's SWAT bottle cage and handy multi-tool.


The Rumor features a tapered head tube, and does include some internal cable routing for the rear derailleur and Command Post. The rear brake is routed through a fork bumper which sits on the under-carriage of the down tube, placed there to keep the handlebar from spinning around in the event of a crash. Each size of the Rumor comes with different sized components to further accommodate the rider - our medium had a 70mm stem, 100mm dropper post and 170mm cranks, and weighed in at respectful 27.25 pounds with a tubeless setup.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
  Not every rider needs it, but he FOX Float CTD with Autosag makes setup a snap.


Suspension Design and Geometry

The EVO designation basically means the bike has more travel and that the geometry has been relaxed. Our medium sized test bike has a 68.4 degree head tube angle, a 330mm bottom bracket height and a top tube length of 582mm. The other sizes keep the same bottom bracket height and head tube angles, but vary in top tube length. The FOX Float has been custom tuned for the Rumor, but Specialized aren't providing specifics about the tune other than saying they look at optimizing compression and rebound valving, as well as overall compression ratio. The shock features Specialized's patented Autosag technology, which is a nifty feature that lets you set the sag that Specialized deems optimum for the Rumor with the press of a button. Specialized was the first company to spec the fabled RockShox Pike RC at 120mm on the Camber EVO, and that same bump gobbling spec is found on the front of the Rumor.




Specifications
Price $5000
Rear Shock Custom FOX Float CTD
Fork RockShox Pike RC 29 Solo Air
Headset Stock Internal
Cassette SRAM XG 1195, 11-speed, 10-42
Crankarms SRAM S-2200 30T
Bottom Bracket SRAM PF30
Rear Derailleur SRAM X01 11 Speed
Chain SRAM
Shifter Pods SRAM X01
Handlebar Specialized XC
Stem Specialized 70mm
Grips Specialized Women's Enduro XL
Brakes Shimano XT
Wheelset Roval Control 29
Hubs Roval Control 29
Spokes DT Swiss Revolution
Tires Specialized Butcher Control 2.3 Specialized Ground Control 2.1
Seat Specialized Women's Myth Comp
Seatpost Command Post BlackLite
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat


Body Geometry Fit

My journey on the Rumor began with a Body Geometry Fit (BGF) at Pro Cycling in Colorado Springs. BGF is a Specialized proprietary fit method that many of their dealers are trained in. Generally, when purchasing a new bike, a store will get you set you up with a basic fit before rolling out the door. The BGF, however, is a two-hour session that will cost somewhere between the $200 and $300 for a comprehensive tip to toe fit.

I got started with a discussion about the type of riding I do and what my riding goals were for the coming months. Once these were determined and my specialist Branden had a good idea of what type of rider I am, we moved onto a series of mobility tests on the floor and the physio bed. Once a series of notes have been taken, and some initial adjustments were made to the bike, I jumped onto the Rumor which has been mounted in a trainer. As I spun rotations, Branden looked at the contact points: my hands, feet and seat. Brandon and I both felt that a slightly shorter stem would be optimal, but we left the 70mm stem and 700mm bars on for the purpose of the test. The first adjustments we made were to the handlebar roll and to lever reach on the brakes. We then moved on to seat height and saddle position fore, aft and tilt. With the laid back construction of the Command post's head, we weren't able to get the saddle as far forward as we would have liked. I continued spinning and Brandon observed me from the front, rear and side.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 bike fit Pro Cycle Colorado Springs.
Flexibility is an area that often gets overlooked by us mountain bikers.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 bike fit Pro Cycle Colorado Springs.
Branden adjusts the placement of my cleats.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 bike fit Pro Cycle Colorado Springs.
Adjusting the reach on the Shimano XT brakes.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 bike fit Pro Cycle Colorado Springs.
Aligning my knee over the pedal axle with a plumb bob.


He wasn't happy with my hip, knee and foot alignment, so we adjusted the cleat position in my shoes and also inserted a new set of foot beds which have lower arch support than the stock ones I was using. Once this was sorted, and I appeared to have a clean alignment, we moved onto suspension. We set the FOX Float Autosag by pumping the rear shock up with a whole lot of pressure before I sat on the bike and then pressed the red valve that releases air only until the shock hits its sag point. We then set the pressure for the RockShox Pike according to the chart recommendation and I was advised to get out and ride and see how the settings work for me. Branden also made it abundantly clear that I can always check in with him for advice, or come back if things don't feel like they are working out for me.






Climbing / Handling

So, why go through the Body Geometry Fit? Specialized was keen for me to have the best possible ride experience, for obvious reasons, but also to show the different factors that are taken into account. Either way, I was eager to get riding after the fitting session. The very first ascent aboard the Rumor was a steep, loose fire road that had me feeling like I couldn't get enough weight as far forward as I would have liked, which may have had something to do with the position of the seat overtop the Command Post and its laid back head. This is the one thing that I weren't able to overcome during the Body Geometry Fit session. The seat height also felt a touch low, but bumping it up by a few millimeters made all the difference in the world.

The Rumor turned out to be a good climbing companion despite the seat position, and I found it quite east to settle into a comfortable pace during long and arduous fire road grinds. Mountain biking isn't all about spinning up gravel roads, though, and it's the more technical sections that really saw the Rumor come alive. The large wheels absolutely eat up the bumps, as we all know they do, and traction was never in question. In fact, the bike felt more and more like a little rock rock climber that was hanging onto roots and rocks better and better as things got tougher and tougher, and the confidence that came from that saw me scale all sorts of questionable pitches.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
  The Rumor will take you comfortably up long, sustained climbs.


The Rumor comes stock with SRAM's X01 single-ring drivetrain and, for those who might be intimated by the perception that it's going to be harder to get up those big hills, don't be. The crank comes with a 30 tooth chainring installed, and for the bike's intended use I would say this gear range is bang on - enough bottom end to make some serious walls a reality, but not tall enough that I found myself only using the larger cogs all day long. The position of the thumb lever on the Command post felt really intuitive - that slightly dropped middle position is actually great for short, sketchy climbs that may require a dab - and the absence of the front shifter means that there's quite a lot of room to adjust the lever into place. Dropping the post was a little hard to initiate, though, and I had to apply some good force to get it to go down at first. Conversely, the post's return speed is a bit startling at first, but I quickly began to appreciate how it was back up to full mast near instantaneously. For riders who find the return speed to be too fast, this can be tuned by changing the amount of air pressure in the post.
bigquotesI still feel that my weight was a bit too far to the back of the bike, but I wasn't willing to install a stem longer than the 70mm unit that I rode the bike with. That said, the Rumor is a solid climber in the grand scheme of things, although its specialty is clearly more technical trails that allow the bike's traction to be used to your advantage.



Descending

When thinking of a 120mm travel bike we often defer to assuming that it will be a skittish, sharp handling handful on rough or fast trails, but the Rumor is certainly not any of those things. The bike's active suspension tracks impressively well over chunky ground, especially relative to other bikes in the same class, and it feels more like a long-legged trail bike than anything with deeper cross-country leanings. This was most apparent on steep terrain, a setting where the Rumor performed above par. The Pike felt near bottomless here, and the fork's rigidity at 120mm is likely class-leading. Being a lighter weight rider, I usually find that I'm forced to tinker with a bike's rear suspension but that I'm often compromising something, although the Autosag function on the FOX shock is really a set-and-forget type of thing that made for a bang-on spring rate for me. The shock didn't feel over-damped, either, which is probably what Specialized alludes to with their custom tuning: lighter damping that better suits the lower spring rates that female riders will likely be using.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
  The Rumor at work in the Adelaide Hills.


The stock 70mm stem did feel a little long for me and how I ride, but I didn't want to further compromise the bike's climbing by fitting anything shorter, and the 700mm wide handlebar just seemed too narrow for my liking. It's almost like the bike's cockpit is a bit under-gunned compared to the rest of the EVO spec, and I don't believe that women will always want a narrow handlebar. Anyway, we do know how to work a hand saw if a wider 'bar needed to be cut down... Generally speaking, I was pleased with the 2.3 front / 2.1 rear tire combo, even after initially thinking that I might want something a little beefier out back. I did have the opportunity to get the Rumor airborne on several jumps and drops, and the bike handled surprisingly well. However, if being playful on the bike and getting air is your true focus, a smaller wheel sized machine might be a better choice. The one situation I noticed the larger wheels having an adverse affect was in pulling the front-end up when going over a drop. Here, the bike felt big and hard to leverage.


Technical Report

• Shimano XT Brakes: Although the XT's worked well, I did have too much dead band on the rear brake, something that was likely due to a bad bleed. It sure would be nice if there was a way to adjust the lever's free throw, wouldn't there?

• Specialized Women's Myth Comp Saddle: This saddle actually worked quite well for me, keeping me comfortable on long climbs in the places where it matters.

• Specialized 700mm Bar and 70mm Stem: Did I love this combination? No. Did I hate it? No. Do I think this bike warrants a slightly more aggressive set-up to match the rest of the EVO spec? Hell yes. A good bike shop will sort you out with your preferred cockpit before you leave the store.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
Booty beware, the Command Post is a fast mover.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
Who recognizes the shape of the Command Post's remote lever? It's likely the most comfortable and intuitive remotes out there.


• RockShox Pike RC 29 Solo Air Fork : I felt really at home with the Pike on the front end of this bike, and it always felt bottomless and responsive, even when steeper terrain threatened otherwise.

• SRAM X01 Drivetrain: The X01 group may not be the top of the line, but it's damn close in terms of weight and construction. There wasn't a single issue to report, with flawless performance all around. The key with a single-ring drivetrain, as always, is to make sure the chain ring is suited to you and your terrain, which the stock 30 tooth was for me.

• FOX Float CTD The Autosag worked well and I was able to set it and forget it. That might not mean much to someone who takes the time to try out different shock settings, but it's especially important for a rider who may or may not even own a shock pump to begin with. After all, the first step to getting your suspension running correctly is to set the right amount of sag, which is exactly what Autosag accomplishes.

• Body Geometry Fit I can't compare what the bike would have felt like if I had set it up first, but I do think that the Rumor was made as comfortable as could be before hitting the trail. I did do some minor tweaking, but I hear this is pretty common. However, I couldn't get the saddle far enough forward due to the construction of the Command Post, so the smaller rider may struggle here as I did. My knees and I are grateful for the relief that the bike fit provided and this alone made the experience worth while.

Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
Women's saddles are so personal, but for me the Myth was a winner.
Specialized Rumor Expert EVO 29 Craigeburn Farm Photo - Kane Naraat
The Specialized Women's Enduro XL grips hit the sweet spot between firm and comfy.



Pinkbike's Take:
bigquotes The Rumor Expert EVO handled all sorts of terrain like a seasoned professional, and time and again I found myself wondering if it really was a 120mm bike. With its low standover height and thoughtful component spec (minus the handlebar and stem), the Rumor is a neat package that nicely accommodates the smaller, more aggressive trail rider. Versatility is the key word here, because this is a bike that will feel at home in a lot of different settings, while also being more forgiving than other 120mm bikes when things get hairy. - Rachelle Frazer




About the Reviewer
Stats: Age: 30 something • Height: 5'6” • Inseam: 31" • Weight: 115lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None
In a classic case of city girl meets outdoor world, Rachelle's relationship with mountain biking began when she moved to Whistler, B.C., in 2005. Initially she formed strong bonds with the Whistler Mountain Bike Park and the other rats that inhabited it, but over the years her love for the sport has grown to embrace all types of riding, along with the adventures, community and friends that come with it. Rachelle Frazer



118 Comments

  • 60 3
 Beats Juliana. At least Spesh don't just shrink 'em and pink 'em
  • 14 1
 Exactly. Custom-tuned fork valving and actually different frame layup = actually a women's specific bike. Nice job Special-Ed.
  • 5 1
 In the article it says the Fox Float comes with a custom tune. The pike is the standard tune that comes from Rock Shox. I believe the reason every manufacturer tunes the shock and not the fork is to work with their rear suspension design. Fronts are all standard from what I have seen.
  • 15 8
 Juliana doesn't shrink em, just pink em! And for good reason, most women don't need totally different geo
  • 9 2
 Well, actually, the average american man is 5'10", and the average woman 5'5". So shorter standover makes a lot of sense.
  • 3 15
flag mattsavage (Apr 6, 2015 at 12:18) (Below Threshold)
 By throwing a 700mm bar on there, they did just shrink it... Even a 5'5" woman can benefit from a 750-780 bar on a trail bike... Bike fits like that are for roadies, the same rules don't apply to mtb's.
  • 16 0
 I seriously doubt that someone who's 5'5" has wide enough shoulders to benefit from 31" bars. It would probably end up being a disadvantage
  • 11 0
 I see little kids all the time with 780, 800mm bars. It totally blows my mind! I'm 6'4 with a really big wingspan, and even I don't run a bar over 780mm. I think all the wide bar hype (to a degree) is a result of people having the wrong riding position which is being "corrected" by having such wide bars they have no choice but to get over the front wheel.
  • 1 1
 And that isn't even including the wider(155mm) saddles that come standard for the women's bikes.
  • 5 0
 Actually, women tend to have wider sit bones. 155 is not uncommon for most women
  • 1 0
 Buy the correct size then
  • 4 1
 Can't we just fight about it?
1: wide bars are cool
2: short stems are cool
3:front shifters are not cool
  • 3 1
 @mnorris122 Female riders typically don't have the same upper body strength as their male counterparts, and a wider bar helps provide more leverage to make up for that fact. My 5' 5" wife and her similarly sized friends have all moved to 750-780mm handlebars in the last few years and are happy with them. Shoulder width doesn't have all that very much to do with it. You don't do pushups with your hands under your shoulders, do you?

I'm no fan of Specialized, but it is good to see them putting in more effort than some competitors at making a real women's specific bike. Perhaps others will follow suit.
  • 50 21
 Apart from technical stuff... this one UGLY top tube! 29" with small frame looks grotesque.
  • 41 89
flag WAKIdesigns (Apr 6, 2015 at 2:05) (Below Threshold)
 Can you show us something you designed yourself that looks good? Other than that you are off course fully entitled to think that something is ugly, we all have opinions don't we?
  • 81 4
 Yeah Waki, we all know YOU have an opinion
  • 19 9
 An opinion is posted. Waki could just say "It looks alright IMO" but instead resorts to shaming the user in a way that could be interpreted as "My opinion is better than yours and you are wrong to have an opinion." Or were you just in a bad mood?
  • 13 5
 Hahaha, you know that I know that you know that there is no good reply i can make to this. I never said that I have no opinions, I even wrote above that everyone is entitled to have one. I'm Just a Specialized fanboi that's all, I think they make great riding and sick looking bikes and this one is particularly brilliant.
  • 2 2
 oh dear .. that knee axle measuring tool, I don't see that coming .. that tool is rad!
  • 26 0
 Go on then, who can find a PB review where the bar and stem combo doesn't get a thumbs down Wink
  • 3 2
 Wouldn't be so hard if companies would stop speccing their cockpits like it was still 2005. (OK, OK, exaggeration. 2007.)

I think the last Mondraker with forward geo got praise?
  • 2 0
 bars/stem are very much a preference thing, even if the bar was wide enough i'm sure some reviewers would slate it for having he wrong up/back sweep and some stems would be too long/too short for the testing size of frame
  • 2 0
 They should just spec a 800mm bar on everything and have the shop cut it for you when you buy it.
  • 18 2
 alright admit it, who didn't see the dog with the stick in the first photo? well timed shot...
  • 15 2
 Is it just me or most manufactures have the seat tube angle wrong?

I see the EWS bike checks and most riders have their seats slammed way forward; far beyond the limit marks which means the seat rails suspension attributes are being nullified.

Steepen that ST or remove the setback!

Bryan

PS - paying $300-$500 for a "pro fitting" (which only really gives you a baseline) seems utterly ridiculous. That service should be given to every bike purchased at a shop for free; heck, one could argue that it's benefit over Internet purchases? But that just seems to logical for bike shops to accept.
  • 13 0
 yeah stupid LBS who needs them! dude, time is money, and we dont skimp on bike setups. we give it a basic good fit. but no we dont get out the plumb bob and protractor, but we fit cleats, install pedals, cages, saddles, grips, bars, stems... it's pretty exstensive, and f we gave away a slightly more intricate fit, we would literally make negative money on bikes. considering most are discounted to compete with online prices, it's damn hard to turn a profit in a bike shop. We never deny a customer happiness or satisfaction, but yeah... we cant take 3 hours to sell every bike... that just cant happen.
  • 1 0
 ^word. @bryan46, if you noticed in the article the fitter asked the rider to give him feedback on any issues. In my experience these checkups afterwards aren't charged and are included in the initial price. I do get where you're coming from though.
  • 1 0
 @bryan46 , not everyone has that much free time on their hands to be tweaking on their bikes and find the perfect fit, I did it as I was younger since I had the spare time, but if you put yourself in the shoes of a 30 - 40 year old who is just getting into the sport and doesn't have the time nor the experience to tweak with personal bike fitting you would probably pay for it.
  • 1 0
 Part of it is to try and tuck the wagon wheels under the rider and shorten chain stays. An easy fix is to make posts with no offset on the head.
  • 1 0
 I ram my seat all the way forward too... Improves climbing traction and gets the seat more out of your way for descending.
  • 1 0
 It's a Specialized thing, they're all about setback posts for some reason I've never been able to identify. FWIW: if you like how the command post functions, but need a non-setback post, the FOX post feels & works almost exactly the same(&until this year, had a far better head & remote. Command post remote should work fine with it though.)
  • 3 0
 When you get a Specialized pro fit you also get a set of notes so you can translate that fit to future bike purchases. You get specs on ideal saddle-pedal surface heights, reach, etc that you could then transfer to literally any bike.
  • 11 0
 I had a demo ride on a Rumor and a Camber Evo last year. Camber Evo won hands down.. I'm 164 cm and the Size Small Camber is perfect. Found the Rumor just too ''girlified'!! This one with Pike may well be better though..!! Still uncertain about women specific bikes tbh..
  • 2 0
 good point! seems like some companies are making them very feminine and dainty, but some ladies just want to rip. the geometry tho, is a little unarguable. women have longer legs than men, typically, but i think theres alot that can be done before making a frame womens specific. Im psyched that they didnt make it all pink tho. not all women are girly girls. lol
  • 1 0
 It could be worse, I cringed at the Juliana review where the reviewer said "I knew coming in that the valving in fox forks won't work at my weight, so I swapped out the fork, stem & bars." Seriously WTF, who specced that thing if the fork literally won't open the valves for riders at a reasonable weight for the frame size?
  • 1 0
 @groghunter I don't think it is specific to women bikes. The tunes sometimes suck straight out of the factory. The AM bike I ride came with a "custom tuned" RP23 that when you took off all the rebound dampening, it still didn't come anywhere close to kicking me off the bike (I'm 145lbs). Had to get both the shock/fork revalved to get something that felt rideable.
  • 1 0
 Oh, I'm not saying it is. but at least on the women's bike, they know that they should have something for the average rider of that body size. 145 is pretty light for a guy, but women range far lower than that.
  • 1 0
 I agree with your point and to add to it, the range of women weights is probably narrower (90-160lbs barring outliars?) compared to the dudes range (125-285 barring outliars?) so getting a custom fit that is within the ballpark for most women should be easier on women's bikes as the range they have to cover is much smaller.
  • 1 0
 Absolutely true, but instead, they're selling bikes with components that just flat out won't perform as designed for the average weight of the rider. heck, spec a fox on a large or XL women's bike. but the small? either get fox to fix their 'ish, or spec something else.
  • 6 1
 come on specialized, i cant have my wife beating me! tune it back a little. kidding. if she gets this bike I will for sure have to train harder which is never a bad in my opinion. let the guys hate. that's one bike that should make us dudes watch out. P.S. I have a baby on the way and was hoping to see the hotwalk in an evo platform. pretty sure that would suit our babies preferences.
  • 4 0
 When I got my wifes bike it had a 780mm bar on it (my bikes are all about 760mm). I was going to cut them down but she insisted on keeping them wide because they "looked cute" and she says its easier to lean into turns with them (shes 5'3")
  • 12 8
 I actually don't understand why the have fitted a Pike when a Revelation with 120mm travel would do just as good a job and would be lighter. A Pike seems a bit overkill on a bike like this.
  • 42 3
 But without a Pike, it's not Enduro.
  • 9 2
 The Pike seems to add a lot of confidence and stiffness in the front of the bike without a big weight penalty. According to rockshox website the there is less than a 100g difference between the 29er versions of both.
  • 4 0
 Air volume and intended use
  • 7 3
 plus the evo build cant have a fork that was made for poor people.... too much? i feel like that was too much...
  • 2 0
 Revelation just as good a job as a Pike? Surely you jest?
  • 2 4
 @mb177 I said on this type of bike. There is a time a place for a Pike and this bike is not it!
  • 7 1
 Sorry, we already have a special ed rumor expert: Waki
  • 9 4
 The wheels look too big on that to be any fun.
  • 1 0
 lol @ paying $300 for a bike fitting. You have to be kidding, especially for a punter!

Any bike shop worth it's floor space will be doing this for free when you buy a bike and it shouldn't take them much more than 20min.

I suppose, anything to milk more money from the cashed up mid-life crisis crew.
  • 2 2
 I've had 10 mountain bikes in the last 15 years and I've never had this much problems as I'm having now with my PF30 bottom bracket, It's the worst invention I have ever seen on a bike and doesn't belong in mountain biking and I feel for the poor women who buy this and have to go to a bike shop on a regular basis to have it fixed.
  • 5 0
 @speedy06

best cure for PF30 or BB30 issues?

dump the 30mm crank, get a Wheels Manufacturing or Praxis Works (the better choice due to expanding collect) PF30 conversion bottom bracket and run some nice Shimano HT2 cranks in there Wink

I've owned a number of bikes with BB30 and PF30 and worked on 100+ creaking / clicking bikes for customers and this cures it great.

www.pinkbike.com/photo/11738839
  • 2 0
 Press fit bbs are cheaper, because u don't have to cut threads, add metal to the bb area. Love companies like Santa Cruz who still have ISO tabs for brakes (no cross threading) and threaded bbs (less creaky and easier to service). Of course it all comes at a premeium.
  • 1 0
 @jfkusa

plenty of companies will still add aluminium alloy inserts into the BB area for BB30 because you have to, you can't run metal bearings directly on a carbon fibre seat (for a BB).

With PF30 it depends on the quality of the frame, some cheaper frames use an insert, more expensive frames are using a carbon sleeve bonded into the BB area, or co-moulded
  • 2 0
 I had a Pivot Mach 5.7 with a press fit BB and didn't have one problem, maybe I was just lucky.
  • 6 1
 @digitalsoul It is now my time honored duty to inform you, that if you didn't break a component that others did, it is because you are too slow, don't ride hard enough trails, or have other personal failings that include: sucking, being lame, not getting rad enough, or not having a fresh kit.
  • 5 3
 29" wheels on smaller frames for smaller riders sure do look awkward - kinda like a white kid from the suburbs dressing in super baggy clothes and trying to be gangsta.
  • 2 0
 yes indeed. I don't get it (but I guess climbing traction and rollover is through the roof).
  • 2 0
 Wait... the bike was fitted in Colorado Springs, and then tested in Adelaide Hills in Australia?

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  • 1 0
 The Rumor did some world travel during its test period Smile
  • 1 0
 That tt reminds me a lot of the Ibis Ripley. I'd ride this bike simply because I have a 30" inseam at almost 6'2" and am tired of getting cup checked by large and xl frames but still need a longer frame.
  • 4 1
 Damn! No tailwhipping that beast
  • 13 14
 They should have put a lighter wheel set on a 5000$ bike designed for women. I'd also like to see a weight sub 26.5 lbs. I mean this isn't really lighter than the men's version, is it?

Also, I know Spec believe 29ers are the best thing since the invention of the wheel, and agree there are many benefits -- but a lot of really small riders will still want 26" wheels or another smaller wheel size that is closer to 26" than to the 29er.
  • 17 6
 Why is this supposed to be lighter than the men's version? Also, what's your point about 26" wheels? This is a review about a 29" in case someone wants to buy that. If you're a small rider who wants smaller wheels, you should probably be looking at...ummm....a bike that comes with smaller wheels?

I'm all for criticizing bikes, but your complaints don't make sense.
  • 2 0
 Every rider wants a different feel from their bike, many short riders enjoy big wheels and many tall riders enjoy small ones. This seems to be a great big wheel bike for small riders.
  • 3 1
 @bishopsmike for starters, its a smaller frame, the heaviest single component on a bike. Also, with smaller sizes comes lighter weight riders, so the components can be lighter since they don't need to be as strong.
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 @bishopsmike What's your point? I'm using the comment form to post my feedback, just like everybody else. What's the problem with pointing out changes I'd like to see to a product? Oh, and just to make sure: There's no 29er hate here, I own both 26" and 29ers.

At 6 ft 1, I'm also not a smaller rider, but I know some who are. And they are looking for light bikes with light wheel sets. And if they'd look at a women-specific bike, they'd want it to be as light as the men's version or lighter. And despite 29er rollover etc. benefits, many of them feel more at home on the smaller wheels.
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 @Vanguard I agree. Put any smaller female rider on this bike and ask them to get the front wheel off the ground more than an inch. It's awful hard to pull the front wheel when on top of 450mm chainstays even if you're a bit on the taller side. This bike should have been 650b (by that I mean 26", but that ship has sailed...) so they could shorten up the back end a whole bunch. I also agree with the wheel and weight complaints. 27.4 pounds at $5,000 is a fairly poor price/weight ratio.
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 Tip of the hat to Garry and crew at trailscapes, great photos too, again, Kane.
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 29er's are cool and i don't mind climbing...... lol
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 Yea me too man! Climbing uphill with giant wheels is exhilarating! Hucking down wicked trails on a DH bike is fucking boring!!!
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 The only time i use the lifts, is when i'm coming back down.. I hate all the looks i get when i'm climbing up A-line on my awesome 29er.
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 As s dude I am frightened of the command post. A so guy described getting nailed in the junk once when he first got one, and I rented an enduro once and barely missed the same experience. Still, I like the lever actuation. I'd consider getting one.
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 I'd never ride one either. I took an enduro out into the carpark once to check fit, and as soon as it was out the door it went BANG and was suddenly fully extended without me doing anything. Fuck that.
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 My command post loses air pressure on a frequent basis, so no worries about it causing any embarrassing injuries. As far as I can tell they lose that capability within hours of leaving the shop
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 Fire roads? Come on.
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 "What about feature X and feature Y...??"

"... Rumour has it"
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 I wish Women specific were the new "enduro specific" ! That would be awesome !
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 @rachellefrazer did y'all flip the alien head clamp to to decrease setback, or just slide the saddle all the way forward?
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 Looks just like all the other boring spesh XC bikes?
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 Where can I get these women's specific grips?!
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 Seems Commencal has something to say
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 I'd be interested if it didn't look a bit like a rumour. Taxi!.
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 So I take it you haven't seen the small "free stroke" screw on the brake levers, have you?
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 Kinda like those grips.
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 never understood all this womenspecific thing,that bike looks rad I'd like to shred on it !!!
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 They have women specific grips? Is there a reason for that? They look like normal grips to me..
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 They're probably thinner to fit smaller hands better.
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 But there are already plenty of thin grips out there, are these even "thinner"? I get some of the women specific gear like seats and frame geometry, that makes sense, but i have never heard of a women specific grip?
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 Also it says enduro XL? As in xtra large... That doesn't sound thin to me. From the looks of it they just seem like odi rogues scaled down by a fraction, but i guess i am wrong.
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 I didn't see that woman specific grip, I had to scroll back up. This is definitely a problem, I am all in for woman specific frames... frames and saddles perhaps, grips is ridiculous, every hand is different from one another, it doesn't matter what sex you are. The problem is that Women specific bikes haven't had major changes through the years, there hasn't been a company which has done engineering changes through the years to accommodate woman specific frames, according to feedback given to women. there hasn't been consistency with Women specific bikes.
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 I agree @Narro2 there are plenty of women specific stuff that make sense, but grips? There are already a million types of grips from small to huge to fit everyones hands just fine. I dont mean to come off sexist, which i think that term has been missused and tossed around here a lot lately, it is quite the opposite. I don't think we need to have gender based grips when there are plenty of men who have small hands or just like thin grips, are womens hands that much differant ?
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 Not they are not, spech doing this is basically a marketing ploy to increase profit. I honestly think that the Big S doesn't care about R&D, they just care about marketing. Look at the Enduro Xwing design, the width of the frame and its welds are definitely overkill, they are in there just for looks. The Stumpjumper 650b is a 29er front triangle with an spacer/shim on the fork to compensate the head tube angle, they simply didn't want to spend money on R&D and make a good riding bike, they cares about making a good looking bike which they could sell and that's it. Just marketing no R&D
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 Age: 30 something
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 that labrador
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 I don't trust a reviewer that puts their seat up from an 'already high' BG fit, what are you a roadie ? Lol
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 Why do girls always look so awkward (i.e. rigid) when riding?
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