Specialized to Close its Website this Friday in Support of Global Climate Strike

Sep 18, 2019
by Daniel Sapp  

Specialized have announced that they will temporarily close their website in support of the Global Climate Strike on Friday, September 20th. The strike builds on "Fridays for Future" strikes, which have mostly involved students up to this point, but the Global Climate Strike is open to all and is taking place in over 150 countries around the world.

Specialized's website landing page reads "Friday isn't business as usual. We hope that you’ll join us by participating in your local community, and show that together, we can pedal the planet forward." An internal memo from founder Mike Sinyard encourages employees to participate.

bigquotesThis Friday, September 20th, Specialized will join the Global Climate Strike by closing our website leading a group ride from our global headquarters to support the youth activists driving this movement. All teammates are encouraged to ride their bikes and participate in Global Climate Strike events taking place on September 20th. I’ll be riding to Morgan Hill City Hall to join students in our community and other demonstrators, let’s ride together.

Bikes are a huge part of the solution, and together, we will pedal the planet forward.
Mike Sinyard

16-year-old Swedish activist, Greta Thunberg, will lead the global movement in New York City on Friday. The second round of protests is scheduled for September 27th with an International Earth Strike. According to the website for the Earth Strike, the date of September 27th was picked because it is the anniversary of the book Silent Spring which was a catalyst in the environmentalist movement.

Hopes are that the protests will send a message to world leaders set to meet Monday, September 23 for the 2019 United Nations Climate Action Summit taking place in New York that policy needs to be implemented to combat climate change. According to Vox, the summit on the 23rd is a meeting ahead of the UN General Assembly, where countries are expected to "ramp up their ambitions to curb greenhouse gases under the 2015 Paris climate agreement."

These halls will be empty on Friday as Specialized staff are encouraged to ride or take part in the Strike.

The UN states, "global emissions are reaching record levels and show no sign of peaking. The last four years were the four hottest on record, and winter temperatures in the Arctic have risen by 3°C since 1990. Sea levels are rising, coral reefs are dying, and we are starting to see the life-threatening impact of climate change on health, through air pollution, heatwaves and risks to food security. The impacts of climate change are being felt everywhere and are having very real consequences on people’s lives. Climate change is disrupting national economies, costing us dearly today and even more tomorrow. But there is a growing recognition that affordable, scalable solutions are available now that will enable us all to leapfrog to cleaner, more resilient economies."

New York City schools, including their 1.1 million public school students are officially allowed to attend the strike without being penalized for their absence, according to the New York Times. Other companies, including Patagonia, Burton, and Specialized will be observing the day, with their websites and web stores redirecting customers to the Global Climate Strike website. Burton brick and mortar stores will serve as gathering places for those marching in protest both before and after local marches. Employees at Google, Microsoft, and Amazon are also planning on taking the day away from work in protest.

According to the UN, UN Secretary-General António Guterres is calling on all leaders to come to New York on 23 September with concrete, realistic plans to enhance their nationally determined contributions by 2020, in line with reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 45 percent over the next decade, and to net zero emissions by 2050.

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357 Comments

  • 327 17
 I haven't been to their website in years. It's my way of helping Mother Earth
  • 104 12
 You're not missing much, one of my developer friends uses their website as an example of what not to do when making a website
  • 11 2
 Or a price drop on all bikes.
  • 37 11
 Quick, everyone bash keyboards hard with hate for the big S
  • 19 1
 The 20th is my birthday. I'll be unplugged and doing my most generic Matt Hunter woodland riding/fishing expedition for the day. That good enough?
  • 10 0
 @bizutch: go raid Area 51 instead, I hear its gonna be killer.
  • 1 0
 Amen
  • 216 14
 Specialized, do not just strike but instead make an effort to reduce your own carbon footprint.
  • 38 6
 This. Absolutely this.
  • 49 5
 How do you know they don’t already do everything they can to keep their carbon footprint as low as possible?
  • 38 2
 Don't they already do this by pumping out carbon bikes like no tomorrow ? Afterall carbon bikes and parts are trapping carbon don't they Big Grin
  • 4 1
 You're saying they should only make metal frames now? Wink
  • 15 9
 Exactly, ride aluminum people!
  • 32 3
 Bikes with batteries that have a 5 year life cycle?
  • 37 3
 I'm going to start a website to offset their closure. Probably porn.
  • 9 5
 @GloryBoy00: From a friend of mine who used to work for them, no they do not.
  • 11 0
 corporations tell you what you want to hear but rarely do anything about it. They claim to be on your side and often times they "are" but they still do nothing about it waiting for other people to. That's basically humanity. Its like how people tell you to be more generous with your money or want to have the government raise taxes to help others, when the main issue exists because people like them are so stubborn and ungenerous. However, maybe specialized will step up, and prove me wrong in this situation.
  • 28 5
 Think of all the co2 coming out of coal power plants to produce electricity to charge Levos.
  • 12 2
 @FloridaHasMTBToo: Why would we want to ride aluminum people?
  • 9 0
 Give up on ebikes. Im just kidding, i would hate for anyones source of fun to be illegal, just sick of getting passed by out of shape people on climbs, lol.
  • 34 4
 If you want to help mother Earth you should do everything you can to increase carbon footprint and global warming. Sooner the humans extinct sooner the Earth will recover.
  • 16 10
 @RLEnglish: so eco nazis push electric cars like there is no tomorrow but deride electric bikes which use exactly the same battery technology only on a far smaller scale???
  • 19 3
 @b45her: Right. E bikes are honestly one of the best answers. Been seeing a lot of Juice bikes etc here, and its good if you ask me. Getting people out of 4000 pound vehicles will save more energy than any electric car braking regen can ever recover. E bikes need to go 28 though. Nobody is going to get out of their car for 18mph travel. It's too slow for modern life to be widely adopted.
  • 5 0
 @FloridaHasMTBToo: you do know how damaging the aluminium process is of course.
  • 12 3
 @pakleni: exactly! The best thing that could happen from the perspective of literally every other organism on Earth is the extinction of humans.
  • 6 1
 @pakleni: In approximately 5 billion years, the sun will begin the helium-burning process, turning into a red giant star and permanently ending life on earth. There have been 5-6 previous mass extinctions on the planet that life has recovered from, but there won't be time for another one because of the fate of the sun. This is it for this planet.
  • 12 6
 @Laymo: In approximately 28,000 years, the northern and southern hemispheres seasons will be reversed. It will be summer in December in the northern hemisphere and winter in the southern hemisphere if we don't do something about it. Save our seasons! Do not let the angle of Earth's axis change our orientation. WE as humans have a duty to prevent this damaging future generations!
  • 1 0
 @PeaFunk, emphasis on ‘carbon’
  • 15 2
 @kmg0: that all makes sense but what about pushing ebikes as a recreational toy that you need to load in to a gas powered car to drive to a trail head.

Levo’s are adding to car trips, not replacing them.
  • 5 1
 @GloryBoy00: Trek is the only company that recycles it's carbon frames FYI.
  • 10 5
 @PeaFunk - Specialized actually recycles carbon for most of the bike companies in their area. Definitely known as the most environmentally dedicated corporate bicycle manufacturer in the world.
  • 4 2
 @jaame: Feeling cynical, old, or both? You seem to doubt global warming, why do you think the oil companies have lied so much about it? Follow the money.
www.greenpeace.org/usa/global-warming/exxon-and-the-oil-industry-knew-about-climate-change/exxons-climate-denial-history-a-timeline
  • 6 3
 @wibblywobbly: OK your argument applies to all bikes then? Like any MTB sale is "a recreational toy that you need to load into a gas powered car to drive to a trail head." We should all just get road bikes so we can ride directly out of our driveways...

I would say E-Bikes are better in this regard compared to a conventional mtb, my trails are a 40 minute pedal on pavement away, I usually end up driving the ~15 minutes to the trailhead instead of riding my Nomad there because riding a Nomad 40 minutes on paved roads sucks ass. But if I had an e-bike and could do that pavement portion in like 20 minutes I wouldn't use the car. I imagine many are in a similar position.
  • 3 0
 @kmg0: Too right. E bikes definitely need to go quicker to make them a viable alternative to the car (or road bikes, which would never gather mass apeal for commuting due to the posture and ride quality).
I used to commute 40miles each way on a derestricted E bike, charging at work. This isn't something I could manage at my fitness level on a road bike, plus the extra comfort of 2.5" tyres helped me to put in the miles.

Honestly it was the best commute of my life - I enjoyed buzzing through the hills at 25+mph more than anything else in my day. However, I was never comfortable that I was doing something illegal - the law needs to be changed!

Yes, the mighty S could do more to reduce carbon emmisions, but so could we all, and fundamentally I agree with their standpoint - bikes and E bikes have the potential to help significantly with climate, traffic and air pollution issues.
  • 6 6
 @BullMooose: why should we have any recreational bikes period? We need to take drastic action to save the planet and that requires us all to make sacrifices to save future generations.

Making bike of any kind for recreation is a waste of energy and resources and damages the earth.

We need to take drastic action. And that means sacrificing your freedom.

But in the mean time, great job Specialized for “advancing the conversation”
  • 2 4
 @BullMooose: To get to my trailhead I average 25mph in my car. If my eBike could cruise at this speed (which it could if derestrictors were legal), I would pedal there instead of using the car.
  • 4 9
flag kmg0 (Sep 18, 2019 at 9:19) (Below Threshold)
 @wibblywobbly: lmao, you sound like a f*cking moron bro
  • 2 0
 @Balgaroth: Carbon fiber uses fossil fuels to make.
  • 8 5
 @kmg0: so how much “fun” is ok and how much should I have to sacrifice to save the planet? Serious question. Where do you draw the line?

So I replace my diesel pickup truck with an Ebike for my weekly grocery trip. That’s cool right? Can I still eat meat? Am I allowed to wear cheap clothing produced on the other side of the world or do I have to wear recycled burlap sacks.

I’ll just not go to a website for a day and continue consuming.
  • 6 2
 @Laymo: I'm not convinced by the arguments for or against, and assuming it is true, I don't really care. Humans are really adaptable.
  • 6 2
 Or maybe take a stand against drug abuse or something that really matters!!!
  • 3 1
 @b45her: one is an alternative to internal combustion engines in 2-ton vehicles, the other is an alternative to 25 pounds vehicles powered by burritos and coffee beans. Otherwise, pretty good comparison.
  • 1 1
 @dualsuspensiondave: You cannot recycle carbon.
  • 3 5
 @jaame: Nutbar climate deniers shouting nutbar climate denial stuff, as they are want to do.
Baller scientists all rolling in Lambo's 'cause they turned down the oil companies money for minimum wage federal grants. Sounds legit!
  • 5 0
 @pakleni: Thanos was on to something
  • 11 6
 @50percentsure: The UK media often says one of Putin’s most effective strategies is to have his various state media all release different and usually conflicting versions of contentious issues. The result is that no one knows what to believe so they stop paying attention.
That’s where I am with the climate stuff. The way I look at it is there are tons of places in the world that are uninhabitable due to the extremely low temperatures. If it gets warmer people can live there. There are plenty of highlands where people could live if the sea level rises. Homo sapient walked all over the world from Lake Turkana. I’m pretty sure in this day and age they can move somewhere more suitable if need be. As for the more extreme climate events such as floods. Well, the human population has increased from one billion to seven billion in a little over a hundred years. I hope it doesn’t happen to me, but if a mud slide washes away six billion people then that will be of huge benefit to this planet! We’re just ants at the end of the day. You’re born, you live, you die. Not if, but when.
  • 2 0
 @GloryBoy00: because they have a marketing department and spend alot of money flying riders round the world to make adverts
  • 2 0
 @RobertBro: You can re-use the fibers. It's not very cost effective and you can only use short sections of it. You can't recycle or re-use the resin, but you technically can recycle carbon fiber.
  • 2 0
 @rojo-1: Could you get a faster one and just register it as a moped?
  • 5 1
 @jaame: In a very simplistic way yes people can move, but society is breaking down due to backlash over immigration in both your country and mine. So unless you have a solution for that, we have to deal with climate change as well.
  • 5 0
 and stop selling overpriced bikes would help as well...
  • 3 1
 @kmg0: i am afraid he is right. We need to cut demand everywhere we can, including buying a new bike.
  • 3 5
 @zoobab2: The carbon footprint of the entire bicycle industry world wide is comical compared to nearly anything else. I don't buy it, but stupid liberals will push for things like this because they are morons, and conservatives will push for it because they are monsters.
  • 3 2
 @mtb-sf: society isn’t really breaking down over immigration from what I can see but I take your point. All I can say is, shit happens. For me and most people alive today, as long as I’ve got food and water, a house and clothes, I’m not too bothered what else happens.
  • 4 0
 @bvd453: i dont think electric cars are a realistic alternative to combustion engines, the energy density of the batteries is just too low for them to cover reasonable mileages, money should be being thrown at hydrogen fuel cells not dead end tech like batteries.
  • 5 1
 @Laymo: This is wrong on just about every scientific level. Also, typical self-centered response. So, just because human life ends, you think all life will end? All life didn't end with the previous extinctions, all life probably won't end when our time is up either.
  • 6 0
 @jaame: The continents are also still drifting, and eventually North/South America will collide again with Europe/Africa. We need to invent giant screws to drill into the Earth to keep this from happening. Some call Elon, get him on it.
  • 2 1
 @mtb-sf: Society is breaking down? Thats a pretty bold statement. Please, explain to all of us how society is breaking down.
  • 8 6
 @Porchdick: Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner.

Still waiting for that Ice Age these same schumcks promised us back in the '70's.
BTW, it was warmer during the Renaissance than it is now. The greatest wealth redistribution scam in the history of scams.
  • 4 0
 @jaame: OMG you are a rouge dictators dream citizen ! Lol
  • 4 0
 @jaame: Bro, I hear you, but you need to set your goals a little higher.
  • 1 0
 @kmg0: 28, nah. How bout 68 or 69? Id spring for one if it went 69.
  • 2 1
 @SlodownU: Shite. We have to find a way to build a giant badass wall on the shore of Portugal. To keep all those Americans from emigrating
  • 1 0
 @jaame: er Brexit...
  • 1 0
 @b45her: so still an electric car.
  • 1 0
 @pakleni: Don’t worry, by then we’ll all be gone, the ant and praying mantis people will have taken over the earth.
  • 1 0
 @ColquhounerHooner: don’t tell me you’ve heard of it down there ?
  • 1 0
 @ColquhounerHooner: is that about immigration? From where I’m standing, it’s not. Partially perhaps, but I don’t see that as the major driver like the left wing biased press keeps saying.
  • 1 1
 @jaame: what about 30 years of anti Europe right wing press ie The Europe editor for the telegraph mrs Boris Johson
  • 1 0
 @jaame: until he was sacked for lying
  • 2 0
 @BullMooose: This is pretty much exactly why I am looking to get an electric cargo bike. I won't touch an ebike offroad, the weight alone makes it a dead deal. But an e-cargo bike will easily let us get rid of a car and make a massive difference in our family's carbon footprint. As someone above said no matter how clean you get an electric car to be it will always be in-efficient to use a 3000lb+ chassis to move around a single person. 70% of our in town trips could pretty easily be done by cargo bike.
  • 4 1
 @SlodownU: I never said all life in the universe ends. Just all life on planet earth. This is an inevitable scientific fact, deal with it. What happened to Venus is happening to planet earth, except human fossil fuel use is accelerating it rapidly.

www.earth.com/news/venus-mars-insight-earth
  • 1 0
 @Matt115lamb: I would guess that most people who disliked his articles read the Guardian or some other newspaper. People have always read the media that they agree with. Facebook has made it worse, but it always happened.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: Not always... in my country at least. We actually had unbiased, in terms of conservative vs. liberal, news until the 70's/80's. That's when everything really starting going to shit with our media over here.
  • 2 1
 It may have been so before my adulthood. I once saw an interview with the Dalai Lama in which he said “I watch the BBC every day because it’s the only news channel you can trust.” or words to that effect. That was about 20 years ago and while I can speak for the accuracy of that statement in those days, it is certainly not the case now. I don’t think there is a single one you can trust, at least not in English.
  • 3 0
 @jaame: In the US, 93% of media companies donated to Hilary Clinton's campaign. 7% donated to republican campaigns. So, you can figure the US media being pretty biased.
  • 1 0
 @tacklingdummy: Seriously, like it doesn't matter which side of the spectrum you come from, it's obvious.
  • 1 1
 @jaame: the BBC may have a liberal bias BUT they don’t report fake news or blatant lies ! Just cos you hate the telegraph doesn’t mean you love the guardian ! The brexit shit is all because of these rightwing newspapers !
  • 4 1
 @Matt115lamb: I don't agree that it's all about that. My parents have never read a right wing newspaper in their lives, and they both voted to leave. The main reasons being, the UK taxpayer is funding roads and hospitals in other countries and they see no return on that investment; they don't like the concept of having rules, regulations and laws thrust upon them by arseholes like Guy Verhofstat; the wanton money wastage of the EU bureaucrats on expenses; and the fact that "it used to be cheap to go on holiday to Spain and now it's not."
It's nothing about immigration from their perspective, or hating foreigners as the left wing media likes to claim at every possible opportunity.
The whole thing is f*cked. I'm not really for or against Brexit itself, but I am heavily against the way the people who wanted to stay have dug their heels in and done everything possible to prevent the will of the majority from being actioned. That is what has made our country into a laughing stock more than any other factor. Well, it's not made our country into a laughing stock because frankly, nobody outside the UK really cares about it. They've got their own shit going on but you know what I mean. There should never have been a referendum. It's completely polarised society. All the crybabies going on about how "They stole our future" etc. Give me a break. You lost the vote, accept it and move on. Oh my gosh. We as a nation need to turn the page.
  • 1 1
 @jaame: got someone who’s happy with food water a house and clothes your getting abit twitchy lol
  • 2 2
 @jaame: so what papers do your oldies read ?
It ain’t democracy if your voting on half truths and lies , and don’t start that will of the people tosh . Revoke , dump farage on a remote far island then we can all get on with are happy lives Big Grin
  • 1 0
 @SlodownU: @jaame: Maybe you can fill me in on what I'm missing, but... the center of the solar system dying, the sun expanding into a red giant, consequently engulfing and incinerating the inner planets... Granted hopefully something like that won't happen for a LONG time, but when it does... I think that's pretty hard to salvage.
  • 2 0
 @pakleni: heard the wall was to keep us in.
  • 2 1
 @jaame: which rules, regulations and laws thrust upon them by arseholes like Guy Verhofstat in particular? can you give me a couple of examples of each?
  • 2 0
 @Uncled: bent carrots, apples that are under 60mm in diameter, fruits or vegetable that are misshapen or “undersized” are not considered to be suitable for human consumption in an unprocessed form. That’s one example. I haven’t got all day to check but there will no doubt be others.
The point they repeatedly remind me of is that all the “stupid old people who stole our future” can remember a life before the EU, whereas the 22 year old fresh philosophy graduates who think they know everything, cannot remember. That’s because they weren’t born then.
It’s a matter of respect. Respect for the outcome of the vote. Whether you agree or not, whether you think your future has been stolen (which is a pretty amusing thing to say in itself) is irrelevant.
I didn’t vote because I wasn’t in the country at the time of the vote. I would have voted to stay if I voted, but I accept the result of the vote because I’m an adult. As such, we should leave. Deal or no deal. Do what the majority voted for. We all know if the shoe was on the other foot and the majority of politicians were pro brexit, we would have left years ago.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: mate have you been to a french German Greek or spainish market ? The fruit and veg there are all shapes and sizes ! That’s just more tosh reported in those rightwing papers which has been going on for over 20yrs .
Anyway good on spec for doing something !
  • 1 0
 @jaame: life in the Uk before the eu was shit , since joining we and the eu have boomed , and I’m still waiting for someone to point out the good things with brexit !
  • 1 2
 @Matt115lamb: it’s funny because I’m kind of wondering at this stage why anyone wants to stay. The can’t do attitude of the EU negotiators has really been staggering. Their attitude to the whole thing has been atrocious. And really, what do people (including your good self) think is going to happen if there isn’t a deal? Planes are going to fall out of the sky? Everyone is going to become unemployed overnight? Hospitals and schools will all close, and don’t start me on the prescription medications (which the 160 countries already outside the EU don’t seem to have any problems procuring). It’s mass hysteria right from the same playbook as climate change. We should leave and it will sort itself out. Anyone who truly believes we’ll be f*cked isn’t doing justice to the ingenuity and adaptability of the human race. Deal or no deal, life will go on.
And about the vegetables, I literally read that about undersized or misshapen fruit and veg on the EU website before I typed it. As it happens I was in a Greek market last month, but if I recall correctly I was too busy trying to look at tits popping out of tight tops to pay too much attention to the shape of their carrots. Let’s assume what you are alluding it is true, then it’s down to the interpretation of the terms undersized and misshapen. Perhaps they consider a 10 degree bend in a carrot to be normal, and whoever is checking on the British side thinks it’s 5 degrees, I don’t know. The point stands. Laws passed by EU politicians who were not elected by the British public must be followed by the British public. If you’re happy with that fair enough. I don’t really care either, but some people do. If those people care enough to leave the EU over it, and those people are in a majority when it goes to a vote, then that result should be respected by all grown-ups.
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 @Matt115lamb: by the way how old are you? I’m 40 and I have no idea what life was like in the UK before it joined the EU, because it happened years before I was born. I don’t even know how many years before, because I wasn’t born. So tell me, what was it like? You’re obviously speaking from experience so how old are you anyway? 70?
  • 1 0
 @jaame: it’s was all down to mrs may’s redlines as to why the eu have been like there have . Plus unmake-able brexit promises by Boris and farage before the vote . The eu excepted may’s backstop on Ireland as a comprise but she couldn’t get it through her own mp’s let alone parliament! As for bent bananas and that just google Euromyth Wikipedia !
  • 1 1
 @jaame: I don’t think you know that much about the EU so go do some reading and come back with some adult comments that you hadn’t heard from mattie in the builders cafe queue ! And it was 1975 so not that long before you were dropped on your head at birth lol ! I’m 46
  • 1 1
 @Matt115lamb: I don’t know much about the EU you’re right, and I don’t really care either! The point is, the people voted to leave so we should leave. People on one side don’t see the benefits of staying and they won’t change their minds, and people on the other side can’t see the benefits of leaving and they won’t change their minds. The takeaway for me is that, there isn’t going to be much difference if we stay or go. Admit it. It’s not the end of the world either way. I don’t really care if we stay or leave. My beef is more with all the so called adults who are doing their best impressions of spoilt kids and trying to stop the whole thing because from what I can tell, they think they are better than the people who voted leave. Remain voters seem very self centred and egotistical to me. At least the vocal ones are. I could never side with people who behave in that way. Adults who don’t accept the vote should be ashamed of themselves quite frankly. Whether the leave campaign misled people or not is neither here nor there. Both sides told lies, I think that’s been established. Some people may have changed their mind since the vote and they may not have. I doubt it’s enough people to change the outcome.
If you’re 46, how do you know life before the EU was shit? Were you even born when the UK got in?
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 @jaame: ok , we’ve all been reaping the benefits for the past 40 odd year with free trade and movement .
Tariff free trade with eu regulations which stops countries undercutting each other and keeping certain standards .
Free movement which allows all eu citizens a chance to WORK in any eu country , with the right to evict them if not working after 3 months ( we can do that but choose not to ) ! You’re wrong to say people won’t change there minds as people always change there minds !
If we get a deal things will pretty much stay the same until the transition period ends then hopefully we would have got all the trade deals sorted ( don’t get your hopes up ) , however if we leave with no deal (which shouldn’t happen since parliament won that Grieve amendment which made it illegal to not ask for an extension ) , it will be a disaster for all sorts of reasons , even the government states this in the yellowhammer papers ! Some say it’s a worst case but Michael gove was grilled about it and said it was what is expected not worse case !
Check out The Netflix film “ the great hack” even watch the trailer to see how these tech companies have fouled and brainwashed the public into a mindset so as to take advantage of !
Both sides didn’t lie , the remainers stated predictions that might happen then worked like dogs to stop them happening ! The leavers made up facts like the whole of Turkey will be coming here , £££££ to the nhs , staying in the single market and free trade , trade deals would be the easiest thing in the world etc etc !
Mate I wasn’t born during ww2 but I know about it ! Ps hope u weren’t dropped on the head lol
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 @Matt115lamb: I get it. You want to stay in the EU.
How about the vote though. Don’t you think the outcome should be respected, even though you don’t agree with it?
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 @Matt115lamb: I don't live in UK or EU so I don't know all the issues, but Farage makes some good points here.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLp7LtXmy68
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 @tacklingdummy: he can spin anything , when he was an eu minister for us and those fishery laws were passed ( the ones that all the brextiers say are so unfair ) he couldn’t even be bothered to turn up and vote ! O well
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 @tacklingdummy: there weren’t many issues before he started gobbing off lol
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 @jaame: sorry I thought I was conversing with an adult.
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 Specialized, love them or loathe them, appear to going through a cultural shift. I think they are making some positive moves.

Soil Searching was a good idea. Trail advocacy is important; it connects people to so many elements of our community. It stimulates ideas. While others are doing it and have been doing it for a while, Spesh are pushing it.

Now this. Not what I expected.

I wrote in my last piece that if you want to go down this route as a brand, you need to go deeper than just superficial marketing campaigns. They seem to be working towards that with looking at supply chains, advocacy, recycling programs and more within their brand.

We know bikes aren't carbon neutral, and I think we need to look at a circular lifespan for products rather than the linear model we currently follow, but we need to start somewhere. The change is too slow, but it always was, and will be, where humans are concerned. So we have to keep going, chipping away.

Time will tell, but so far, good on ya Spesh. Now let's make product lifecycles longer.
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 Possibly positive moves in some directions no doubt, but nothing has been said that in the UK they are dropping small retailers. After selling their products for 25 years they've dropped us and many other independent bike shops across Scotland in favour for larger chain shops. It also means we have no access to components from specialized to keep customers who have bought sbc bikes bikes running. Poor show letting down loyal customers and retailers
  • 3 1
 It’s a tricky one to balance this, on the one hand if you really want to make a difference as a bike brand make a bike that will last 8 years with bearings and a frame that can take a lot of sh!t. But then on the other hand, if you did that you would make way way less money and probably fail as a business, or have to lay most of your staff off. Also this would only work if everyone else did the same thing, human nature is always to covert the new and shiny.

There is a lot of self righteous sanctimony preached on here (not by you here btw!) where they expect the likes of spesh to simultaneous do both the above. Big firms suck, small firms make weird bikes that cost too much. In the PB comment land if you run a bike brand you are dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.
  • 4 0
 @commentsectiontroll: Toyota makes one of the most reliable, bomb proof trucks out there. They seem to be doing just fine.
  • 2 1
 @commentsectiontroll: very fair comment. Largely agree.

They have a responsibility to staff, consumers, environment and they have a much larger and complex picture to look at than just “change this, change that” mindset .

Everyone hates talking about sustainability in economic terms, but to do what Patagonia do, you need a healthy balance sheet, otherwise it all goes to crap and you get sweet FA accomplished.

Definitely can’t please everyone, but all in all, they are trying to shift position and I give them credit for that.
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 @felimocl: I’m not too connected with the LBS / Distributor side of things so can’t really comment. 25 years is a big shift though.

Having no idea about it I just hope that LBS can continue and be allowed to offer skilled service at fair rates. I’ve been in two this week and find the service side invaluable, as well as the craic. Can’t forget that.
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 This is a great way to appear more environmentally friendly than you really are. Do the math here, bikes are not carbon neutral in any way shape or form. The entire product cycle is energy intensive, and the "throw away" nature of the industry is not anything near aligned with "sustainability".

Just because you care about the environment does not make you good for the environment. Building bikes that are designed to last longer (component to component) would do a lot more good for the planet than this stunt.

People need to pick their head up and parse through the bullshit, which is rife especially in the non-motorized "outdoor industry".
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 Well to be fair every good bike you can buy today can be ridden for over 5-10 years.

The Problem is: People want the newest stuff.

Are you any less happy with a Speci Enduro from 2014? I dont think so.

Lot of people here change bikes anually- stupid consumerism needs to stop.

Same goes for cars- people lease their BMWs/Mercs and dont give a f*ck after they got a new one.
  • 11 5
 I’m riding the same road bike since 1989. Speak for yourself when it comes to throwing things away...
  • 7 1
 @NotNamed: my used bike is someone else’s new bike. All my bikes get resold/recycled.
  • 5 0
 This is more a mountain bike problem than a bike industry problem. I see plenty of people out there on 20 year old clapped out commuter bikes. Specialized makes a lot more than just mountain bikes so yeah this seems gimmicky but its not 100% wrong.
  • 3 0
 So having owned many bikes over the past 20 years or so, as an anecdote from my own experiences…..

If you ride a bike (in the UK where it rains 180 days of the year) and ride it in anger you can probably get 4 years out of it. Maybe 5 or 6 if you are super careful with bearings. There is some assumption that bikes can take everything we can throw at them but in reality every time you ride one (in anger) you will stress the frame, increase the likelihood of a crash or dent and wear all the drive train / moving parts. I am no josh bender but most of the bikes I have owned (with the exception of my most recent trail bike) have cracked in the end, or got to a point where the enjoyment of riding them is offset by the need to constantly replace parts (see secondary environmental impacts of buying new tyres, wheels, chains, mechs, brake pads, brake oil all of which are technically consumables too).

I think people forget how much of a pasting modern mountain bikes take every time they go out, its like comparing a normal car with a WRC car. If you want to reduce environmental impacts really don’t ride one cause you will always be wearing something out,

Certainly don’t do uplifts or use chair lifts, or drive to any riding venue. In summary buy a road bike or go swimming (fun times!)
  • 6 0
 You know you are right. How dare people ride pedal powered stuff and think they are helping the planet. Death to pedal bike. Praise the 2 stoke. Mixin gas and grabbin ass.
  • 2 1
 @mattradical: Yeah but by buying new bikes the demand of used and new bikes goes up- continuing the circle.

Just dont buy new bikes (or other materalistic goods) so frequently.
  • 3 0
 To be clear on a few things...

I don't mean to imply you must have the newest stuff to be a part of the sport. I am however suggesting most mountain bike products we use today are by and large not built for the long haul. This, more than any one part of the sport, is contributing to a much bigger environmental impact than it should be.

I am lucky to ride everyday. Most products I use are relegated to the trashcan in under 100 days.

Fork uppers that creak, stanctions that see the anodizing wearing away within 4 months of riding, chains that are good for ~1000 miles, bearings that go out after a summer, freehub bodies that explode, tires that cut bla bla bla

I'd happily take 2 pounds in the name of real durability, but I do not think we'll see it (my bike weighs 36 pounds as it sits btw).

There are products that last and are easy to fix. One that comes to mind is the set of Santa Cruz wheels I've put thousands of miles on, even relacing one as the spokes had fatigued. This wheelset saved me numerous new wheelsets.

I know, I know "go ride a singlespeed steel hardtail Jeff!"

You'd still be missing my point if this is what you are implying. I want us to ride cool shit. I just want more attention to fixability, durability and sustainability before we all act as though our human powered ways are holier than thou compared to other two wheeled sports.
  • 2 1
 Carbon fiber uses fossil fuels to make. If cyclists are really concerned reducing their carbon footprint because of climate change they should probably become barefoot runners.
  • 3 0
 @tacklingdummy: Aluminum takes fossil fuels to make (mining, transport to factory, processing, etc.), so does steel, Titanium, etc. Almost nothing in manufacturing of bikes of any material is 'carbon free'.
  • 2 0
 @mattradical: except the new one need raw materials mining and require a lot of ressources to be built. And in the low end bikes, most of them end up in the trash.
  • 1 0
 @tacklingdummy: or investígate linen frames. Urge and Museuw made some helmet and a road bike, i have yet to see an MTB frame with it.
  • 5 0
 "People need to pick their head up and parse through the bullshit". Yep. People got up in arms about a picture of a turtle with a plastic straw in it's nose, so now plastic straws have been vilified as the main cause of problem in our world so the poor little plastic straw has been banned or frowned upon all over the place!(funny thing is I've been telling bartenders for years to please reuse my straw instead of adding a new one to each drink..and I've been using the same straw at home for 2 years!). What really get me is when I go to one of the "enlightened" establishments and they serve my drink with a paper straw....in..a...plastic....cup. Oh aren't we special. How many people look outside the media hype of what they're told to do and actually pay attention? Very few it seems.
How about shopping and watching Ms. yoga in her namaste shirt and yoga gear buying some chicken that is wrapped in plastic and styrofoam then puts it into the plastic bag so she doesn't get her special hands a little juicy(watched this last week), or at said grocery store and bagger asks if I want my meat wrapped in plastic before she puts it into my canvas bag? No....it's ALREADY wrapped in plastic!
It's never ending on how little people actually look outside their bubble to realize their own impact.
I have had a social awareness most of my life and always will, but, I've recently let go of any idea that there will be any change...the amount of giant lifted trucks in my area tells me enough that most people simply don't care. And if you've traveled enough you see it even worse in many places. Just enjoy the ride and be the best human you can be!
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: ^^^ Slow golf clap sir. You deserve a beer ( from a sustainable brewery, in a organic biodegradable cup served by a vegan bartender of course) Big Grin
  • 3 0
 @bman33: as long as said bartender doesn't tell me they're vegan, and I can have a whiskey drink instead of some pretentious "craft beer"(my town has also been inundated with craft breweries, yoga studios(and yoga girls must have sleeve tattoos because apparently otherwise you aren't really into yoga without one), beards and people that hate straws, ha ha)
  • 1 0
 @GlassGuy: Deal...I am a whiskey gut as well. Big Grin
  • 48 1
 This is such a nice way to setup a big site maintenance window and call it a day for the planet. Marketing at its best!!!
  • 14 1
 I work in I.T ^^^^^^^^^ This guy gets it.
  • 47 3
 How about ... not buying anything from China. Read about what they were asked to do by the Paris accord, basically nothing. It was a feel good deal, not a useful one.
They are building coal fired power plants at a rate faster than any other time, to build products for you. Utah is building an "inland port" to be an easier method to ship coal to Asia(mostly China) so they can generate more power TO MAKE MORE PRODUCTS FOR YOU. Yea, lets move the problem so we can buy credits to pretend we're green.
One of the main reasons it's cheaper to make things there is that their environmental laws and labor laws are extremely lax. Try to anodize a part in the US or Eu for example and you'll find the costs to be several times higher because they can't dump their effluent into the river.
Ever been to a battery factory in China? Nastiest places on earth.
Shipping if it was a country is the 6th largest contributor to CO2 emmissions and is mostly unregulated.
How about don't drive your car to go for a bike ride?
Buy things made in Europe or North America where there are regulations.
Hey Specialized, what about all the waste packaging you produce that goes directly into landfills? Every single product you make is over packaged with plasticized papers and foams that aren't recyclable in any reasonable way. Every tshirt or piece of clothing you sell is packaged with plastics that are thrown away before the consumer even sees it.
These kind of feel good measures take the focus away from the real problems. Some of us aren't fooled by your greenwashing.
  • 6 0
 Well said. I work in the Hazardous Waste industry so I see the costs to our companies.

The fact that China had to do all this to try and clear the air for the Olympics says it all.
www.nbcnews.com/id/25744299/ns/beijing_olympics/t/beijing-begins-massive-olympic-shutdown/#.XYJCjn8pBAI
  • 10 2
 Ok, so I'm being too hard on Specialized. I commuted on a Specialized bike for many years so they actually helped not put a bunch of crap into the air, a lot of their people do too.
Biggest greenwashing company by far is Patagonia. Check us out heli skiing! Check us out flying to Tahiti then taking a boat to a cool break to surf, but we're so green because we drink kombucha. Check us out driving our fashionable #vanlife that gets 8 miles to the gallon to drive to Moab every weekend to go climbing!
They got a huge tax break, and instead of opening a super clean factory in California where they're based, they just sent it to lobbyists to make sure everyone else solves the problem. The amount of waste in the garment industry dwarfs anything the bike industry. Not my fault, I gave money to a lobbying group! California has the highest environmental rules of just about anywhere, so they could have done something to make an actual difference.
But the profits of making things in Asia then shipping them all the way across the world are just too good. Hey look, we care! Marketing really works.
  • 1 1
 So you don't buy anything from China?
  • 9 1
 @nonk: I recently sent in my 20 year old puffy coat Back to patagonia and they put new sleeves, zipper, waist panels and shoulders for free so I don't need to buy a new one. First rate american craftsmanship coming out of Reno, nevada. Providing skilled jobs and helping me reduce my waste footprint. I'm just a customer that is continually impressed with the way Patagoochie stands behind their product. And they rushed my order, at no charge, so that I'd have my puffy before I left on a winter river trip. it is hard to find another company that takes reuse of their products so seriously.
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 Their website? For one day? That’ll make a difference.
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flag simirving (Sep 18, 2019 at 5:49) (Below Threshold)
 Their website alone might not make a big difference, but perhaps other bike companies will follow. And this willl make a difference.
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 They at least acknowledge climate change and support the movement. It's already something!
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 @Happymtbfr: Well, this advertising sir, a free(?) pinkbike article and tons of people commenting. Green-washing on its way.
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 @simirving: not sure I understand how shutting a website down for a day helps save the world.
Now if they said we are closing all their offices and manufacturing plants down once a week for a year...maybe that's a better start.

Seems like a bunch of hoop-la
  • 21 18
 @enger: No, you're wrong. A 16-year-old student is now the authority on global climate change. We must all worship her and her great fountain of wisdom that she has amassed over a lifelong quest to gain experience and knowledge. That 16-year-old says closing the website down will save the planet, so that's what all responsible companies should do. I salute Specialized for saving the planet. I salute that 16-year-old girl for educating me and all the other old people who don't know anything.
  • 3 0
 @nicoMF: off course there "might" be some marketing thoughts behind it !
  • 9 0
 @jaame: When a finger is pointing up to the sky, only a fool looks at the finger.
  • 3 4
 i've never received so many negative props before. I'm thrilled.
  • 9 0
 @Happymtbfr: it depends on the finger
  • 4 2
 @jaame: maybe try and salute other people's opinions while your at it.

That method helps save the world too....
  • 2 0
 @enger: we must save the world! Humans are entitled to eternal survival!
  • 23 7
 I'm more interested in hearing about Specialized factories and how they produce their carbon fiber frames and wheels! Specialized goes #MeToo is a JOKE!
  • 1 1
 #myheroes
  • 20 5
 Raising awareness and virtue signalling like this is nothing more than disgusting marketing. Get bent Specialized. Actually do something good if you want good press.
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 "Oh and don't forget to buy all our e-bikes and extremely expensive carbon bikes!" Nothing says saving the planet, than by taking an activity that was strictly human powered to now needing batteries produced in factories from rare earth metals needed to be mined and processed.
  • 8 0
 Going further and further into the flora and fauna of the planet, little veins of manliness and impact on previously un impacted environments. Where you can go further and ride more and do more in these environments, bringing noise, presence, disease. Setting up outposts of mans ingenuity and influence on the once balances environments.

Hang on - "Where you can go further and ride more".

"Its you but better".

"Smashing through the restriction and limits of the environment"

Manufacturing bikes with motors, advertising pristine riding adventures, sponsoring and backing global jet setting competition based race teams, push based manufacturing and unit cost driven profit models.

The unfortunate truth is of course that the industry, racing and next season upgrades for insignificant standards, what we do for recreation even are the reason for the impending demise.

The proposed solution here is a green wash, designed to appear to position on the side of the solution rather than contributing to problem.

How about instead w have a mandated global standard of products. Clear and supply chain verified, at the sticker point of retail, including all points of waste including marketing on its lifecycle.

"This bike required xxxx kW of energy to manufacture. This bike required xxxx inputs of aluminium equivalents. This bike required x, y and z of known green house and solvents, chemicals and known cancer causing agents.

This bike has a Tier 1, 2 and 3 emission profile, including maintenance and support over its lifecycle (global standardised assumptions around maintenance and failure requirements for all parts"

Then lets see how green we all are.

This proposed closure diminished the seriousness and impact Specialized plays in the global environment as part of its core business model.

And none of this "eBikes replace cars and so are overall net beneficial" coz last time I looked developed world is not riding its way to environmental harmony on a LEVO.

It is of course us that are the problem, and our demands for our recreation on our terms in the environment that is the problem. Global warming, natural and man made climate oscillations - take it off the table for a second.

Immediate impact on pristine environments, flying to ride and recreate, making commercial trail centres and bringing the populous and more and more of it, reducing the natural barriers to distance and human ability into previously unspoilt nature for PROFIT and FUN. That's the issue.
  • 10 0
 The premium brands should offer a service to repair the broken carbon frames and they should launch a recycling program. It seems that Specialized is working on it:
www.specialized.com/us/en/carbon-fiber-recycling-program

The other brands should follow Specialzed's exemple!
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 @granjak I agree to a point, whilst the vast majority of carbon components are made in Vietnam, China etc then the huge companies who employ the factories to produce their goods turn their backs as it's that country's problem of how to dispose of waste, usually ocean fill, one company, Specialized, although commendable, is just not enough, they should forget about brand and profit and all come together and propose a strategy moving forward.
  • 3 1
 Or they could just make less bikes out of carbon, easy..
  • 3 1
 @Gavalar66: If you forget about profit, bike companies as we know cease to exist. Period. We all end up riding 'Lada' bicycles if we are lucky moving forward.
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 @bman33: I agree, sadly they and thousands of other companies continually produce goods often for the sake of producing more goods, the bigger the monster they create, the more it needs feeding, and to that end it's all far too little far too late.
  • 2 0
 @zyoungson: why you'd want less bikes out of carbon? carbon in a bike is not carbon in the atmosphere.
  • 14 4
 As much as people love to hate Specialized, they are are still the OG, rider owned, rider focused company. They reinvest back into the sport more than most companies profit. Sinyard still rides his bike to work.
  • 5 3
 So does Boris Johnson.
  • 11 1
 Setup a page redirect that the website is down, but the hosted servers in the huge data center are running just like any other day. Smoke and mirrors.
  • 9 0
 Is Specialized telling us we should stop purchasing bikes manufactured in countries with virtually no environmental regulations?
  • 2 0
 @trailtaco Specialized bikes are produced in Taiwan not by the ChiComs of the mainland.
Two very, very different countries. Though the POS commies will do everything in their power to dissuade everyone of that that notion.

They (Taiwan) have made great progress in tackling environmental issues over the past 20 years, including water, air pollution and electronic waste management. They had some issues back in the late '80 & '90 with wild, unchecked industrial growth but have done very well bringing things back into balance.
  • 10 2
 Spec Sept 20: We care about the environment
Spec Sept 21: You're old pedal bike is a piece of old shit, put it in the dump, here buy this new super carbon double battery ebike!
  • 6 0
 Make less stuff/ sell less stuff/buy less stuff yeh? Goes against the current capitalist consumer model doesn't it? These little strikes don't mean a unless you can make it so that half your workforce can work from home and your product (bikes in specialized case) last at least twice as long/ or can be serviced to do so.
  • 7 0
 It is funny to me that some companies seem to be so concerned about climate change but at the same time trying to sell as product as possible which is a total contradiction. The irony.
  • 7 0
 Be sure to let us know when the turn the homepage pink for cancer awareness. An empty gesture from a company dedicated to electrifying a human powered pursuit.
  • 7 2
 Stop coming up with new standards every year, tempting us with the latest and greatest gadgets that we certainly dont need and let us keep our bikes at least 2-3seasons before we buy new ones . Less consumption more riding in nature !
  • 5 0
 Such virtue signaling bullshit. Make your bikes & other products with more sustainable and less energy intensive materials and processes (ie no carbon) and maybe do a trade-in program so fewer new bikes need to be made. Then we have evokes which exchange excess calories for food and replace it with nuclear and coal power...
  • 5 0
 Curious to know if this means the dealer site will be closed as well. Probably not a great idea. Why not take the day and brainstorm ways to reduce the companies carbon footprint?
  • 11 6
 Nobody here would bet their paycheck on the weather report being accurate, but we are all supposed to believe the planet is suffering from human activity and will be destroyed in 10 years and only socialism can save it.
  • 4 0
 Billion cars. Each car produces about one tonne of CO2 each year. Half a billion automobiles.
That's half a billion tonnes of CO2 every year !
Buying a new home? Yes let's boast about the square footage and value. How much fossil fuel to heat up your large impressive home?
Plastic is used in almost every thing. Plastic is made from crude oil.
We're f*cked. Why? too late to ask that question.
Ride you f*cking bike people!
  • 7 0
 What is specialized??
Isn’t it reseller of made in china bikes??
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 Who actually visit all these-kind of movements/strikes/marshes ?
I mean, students - ok, they just don't want to spend time at school and learn anything, but others?
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 Exactly! No one else has time for such trifles.
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 I don't get what's the benefit for the environment?
  • 12 0
 Nothing, just another example of slacktivism, at the end of the day people may claim they are "trying to raise awareness" but it's mainly just a PR stunt by Specialized for attention.
  • 17 14
 1. Humans, esp. in poor countries, are living healthier, longer, with better access to clean water & sufficient calories than at any time in human history. By 2030 global poverty, buy the UN's own standards, will end.

2. Wild spaces, forests, etc are growing. There are more trees in North America today than the 1600s. Breakthroughs in agriculture, esp. GMOs, is allowing for far less land to be cultivated and still produce ever increasing crop yields. This is the main drive behind the expanse of wild spaces.

3. Once countries become developed, they start eating less meat. This combined with cultural shifts, new technology like the Impossible burger, and GMOs make our reliance on animal products less and less every year.

4. There are more polar bears today than 30 years ago.

5. Al Gores frequent predictions on polar ice, sea ice, mountain glaciers, sea levels, sea flooding, Florida, LA, and San Fran being underwater, etc have all failed to materialize in his "best case" timeframes.

6. Paul Ehrlichs many, many, many claims of food shortages, starvation, habitat destruction, population explosions, etc have never materialized. He made these claim repeatedly for 50 years and was always breathtakingly wrong.

7. As countries become fully developed, they emit less CO2, produce less plastic waste that ends up in oceans, less methane, and generally pollute less.

So what exactly is Specialized striking for?

Of course we still have problems and challenges, but this is literally the best time in human history to be alive. Until just a few years ago (2015, I think) the #1 cause of death from pollution was from burning biomass indoors for heating and cooking, NOT from carbon manufacturing or someones SUV. We are literally living in a golden age where within a decade or two we will see the complete elimination of global poverty and hunger, and a time of prosperity where someone living below the poverty line in the USA lives better than the 1% from 50 years ago.
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 1. Water quality never will be good as it once was. Less than 100 years ago, people could drink directly out of streams. Water quality continues to suffer due to manufacturing and factory farming. Humans are not living healthier than before. This is now due to choice. The food is the most unhealthy it’s ever been, and cancer rates have skyrocketed. Healthcare costs have also increased because of people’s unhealthy lifestyles.

2. According to the North American Forest Commission, we have roughly two thirds of the trees we had in 1600, most certainly not more. This has only gotten better in the last 60 years due to people realizing the devastation in deforestation.

3. GMOs are never a good solution for growing food. Permaculture is the appropriate long term solution.

4. Polar bear populations have decreased by approx. 22% according to US Fish and Wildlife.

5. Al Gore is not a scientist and is only a public figure that brought education of climate change to the masses. No reason to bring up anything about him.

6. Claims from 50 years ago have not much to do with the science community now. Technology has come so far in the last 50 years, and almost nothing is the same. The difference is now there is proof because of all of the research done on the topic.

7. That’s pretty much the opposite of how emissions go with development. China, India, and even the U.S. are great examples of that. Emissions always increase dramatically with development. Partisan politics and greed have historically kept emissions from decreasing at the rate they should.
  • 4 2
 @dualsuspensiondave:

1. Water quality is immensely healthier than it was 100 years ago, 200 years ago and 300 years ago. The Thames river used to flow with so much human sewage that the smell could be detected for miles. Cholera and other waterborne illnesses are on the decline globally and virtually unheard of in developed nations: humanprogress.org/dwworld?p=524&yf=1990&yl=2015

2. North America had fewer trees in the 1600 than today, but more importantly the land that has returned to a forested state is growing and growing
www.fia.fs.fed.us/library/brochures/docs/2000/ForestFactsMetric.pdf

3. GMOs are the gold standard for improving human nutrition while reducing environmental impacts. Humans have been making GMO foods for at least 10,000 years. There is literally 0 evidence of any negative health impacts from any GMO foods. imgur.com/gallery/KBZta

4. According to the WWF, and the US Fish And WIldlife, polar bear populations in the 1970s were estimated between 7,000-10,000. The current estimates range from 21,000-31,000.

5. Al Gore drives political policy, which affects all of us.

6. Paul Ehlrich has won:

The United Nations Sasakawa Environment Prize, 1994
The 1st Annual Heinz Award in the Environment (with Anne Ehrlich), 1995[
The Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement, 1998
The Dr. A. H. Heineken Prize for Environmental Sciences, 1998
The Blue Planet Prize, 1999
The Eminent Ecologist Award of the Ecological Society of America, 2001
The Distinguished Scientist Award of the American Institute of Biological Sciences, 2001
Ramon Margalef Prize in Ecology of the Generalitat of Catalonia, 2009.

These prizes are not from 50 years ago, and he continues to make predictions that drive political policy, and that affects us all.

7. China and India are not developed yet. The USA and nearly all Western countries have reduced their CO2, CFCs, and other ODS emissions over the last few decades, despite growing populations.


There simply isn't any scientific, observable evidence to suggest the world is becoming less fit for human habitation. All evidence pretty much points to the opposite.
  • 2 4
 @hamncheez:
Again, most of what you are saying is misleading at best. One can certainly see the partisan twist you put on all of those subjects. There is no room for partisan politics in an effort to help save the planet from greedy capitalists that put money before the health of everyone on earth.
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 @dualsuspensiondave: There is no partisan twist. Its some people using the good nature inherent in most people to trick them into giving away their money.

If you line up all the countries on the planet, from the most socialist to the most capitalist, then you lined them up again from the most polluting to the least polluting per person, it would virtually be the same line. Calling capitalists "greedy" and implying that socialism isn't requires ignoring the 20th century. The worst environmental catastrophes in the history of humanity has been committed by Socialist governments, not the free market.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: That's an absolutely ridiculous claim. I work in Storm Water Pollution Prevention, and there is no money grabbing going on with environmental regulations in the U.S. Capitalists don't understand that more tax dollars come from those higher paying jobs while also being the right thing to do. There is no decimation of small companies due to environmental standards in this country.

There are studies out there that show you are incorrect about socialist countries as well. India and the U.S. are two of the three worst per capita, with China in the mix with communism. You mean the capitalism in our country that consists of lobbyists ignoring human rights and health while also practicing communism and corporate socialism is not greedy?
  • 5 2
 I just don't understand why the banks keep giving 30,40 year mortgage loans for beachfront property that according to experts will be underwater in 20 years thus making the value of the property nearly zero. They say money talks, the money is saying global warming ain't gonna happen
  • 1 0
 Because that mortage is still owed to the bank after the property is underwater. The one losing money is the property buyer/owner not the bank..
  • 5 1
 Just another marketing strategy of a company that doesn't give a crap about what they are pretending to care about (remember the 'toxic masculinity' ad from Gillette?) Get Woke, Go Broke!
  • 4 1
 So no company is allowed to try and make a positive change, ever?

I have a little Mexican take away. Should I just close my doors and put 8 people out of work because my beans cause my customers to create methane gas? I will be closed tomorrow, on my biggest day of the week. It will probably cost me $1500-2000 and my employees won’t get hours. But I will spend that time meeting with our mayor and politicians to pressure them to make a bigger change than I can.

Good on you specialized.
  • 12 10
 Greta Thunberg, I applaud that se is raising the next generations awareness of how we continue to f*ck this planet up, most of the carbon off cuts made to produce our fabulous bikes goes to ocean fill, but what I dislike is the way she preaches to us whilst contradicting her own message, her recent trip across the Atlantic meant that 2 of her crew flew back from New York for another engagement and 3 more flew in the opposite direction the bring the vessel back to the UK, Carbon offset, ZERO!
  • 14 6
 The only thing Greta will be raising is the prices, just wait and see. It's all a big collaboration with companies and powerful individuals. It's not hard to figure that out, all it takes is some googling around. They're just using her and in reality it's no more than child labour. I somehow feel sorry for the little girl. Shame on her parents for pimping her out when we all know it's all in vain.
  • 12 3
 Greta is just being used a propaganda tool.
  • 4 4
 i wonder how much precious little greta charges for an appearance? because i can guarentee its not all done for the good of the planet, more for the good of the families pocket book.
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 My daughter asked if I would let her sail to Hawaii for our next holiday to reduce her carbon footprint. I said yes of course you can, I'll even give you the money I was going to spend on your airfare. That way you'll only need to come up with another £23000 for a yacht, £12000 for lessons to learn how to sail it, and £6000 to pay a crew of three to help you sail there and back. And please, don't kill and eat any poor little fishies en route.

Be like Greta! Woo!
  • 2 3
 @emponix: foliehatt deluxe kompis.. tell me more about these powerful individuals & the lizard people.

Why cant nobody believe that she does it because she cares? Greta dont have any corporate backing with hidden agendas.
  • 7 0
 @jaame: Just don't go to Hawaii, do you really NEED to go there ?
  • 4 0
 @Kevvan: Of course she cares, that's the whole point. She doesn't even know about all the rest. I know about her parents and their connections. Believe what you want, just don't ask me to do the same.
  • 2 0
 Not only that, the big 60 ft yacht she uses is not eco-friendly. The yacht was built with a ton of fossil fuels.
  • 3 0
 @Kevvan: if she cared why is she hiding the huge carbon footprint her tour is creating. She would have generated alot less waste if she had flown a scheduled flight to the usa rather than her sailing stunt that needed 5 transatlantic plane flights
  • 2 1
 @CM999: I think she is just so ignorant about the subject that she doesn't even know how big her carbon footprint really is. That is why it is unbelievable that they put her as the spokesperson for climate change and highlight her as being some climate change expert. Smile
  • 6 0
 @tacklingdummy: What is a "Carbon footprint" anyway, and why does anyone care about it? I just don't get it. Hydrocarbons come out of the ground. We use them, carbon dioxide goes into the air, trees drink it and use it to make wood and oxygen for us. We can use the wood to make cricket bats and tables. The oxygen we can breathe. Eventually we die and some of that carbon goes back into the earth. Eventually all humans will die and all that carbon will keep going around or whatever. Does it matter? It matters to people who think humans are the most important thing in existence. Self centred people who can't imagine a planet without their own species. Animals of the world will rejoice the day the last human dies. That's a science fact.
  • 3 0
 @jaame: Carbon footprint is in regards to one person's or entity's impact on environment, pollution, and climate change. Climate change is still debatable whether it is human induced or not. I'm still not convinced climate change has been proven yet that it is human induced, but pollution (toxic, air, garbage, etc) is real.
  • 2 0
 @tacklingdummy: garbage is definitely real. That’s one thing we can all definitely agree on. As for the other stuff, it’s impossible to know the truth since there are so many conflicting arguments going about. Calling something a fact, or saying science proves it, doesn’t mean anything. You choose who to believe based on your own feelings at the end of the day.
  • 7 5
 I feel the same, Greata is great and Specialized making a right move. Yes, we all should start to think about our mother planet, climat, ecological situation..
By the way, going to get some new carbon handlebat, what to choose - renthal or syncros?
  • 3 0
 As an industry one thing that would help is if we stop embracing carbon like it’s so kinda holy grail material - it’s ridiculous over rated and won’t get repurposed. #ridemetal
  • 3 1
 If they really wanted to do something significant they could reduce the prices of their electric utility bikes, which can be true car replacements. Retail pricing of eBikes from Specialized, Trek, etc. are absurd and are a barrier to getting people out of cars.
  • 1 1
 SO you mean people that are already paying for a car are not willing/can't pay for an ebike INSTEAD?
  • 13 10
 Guys, climate change is not just a political topic. It's something that we all should care about! Fact is that we can't continue as before. Creating awareness is the first step so I think it's a good move by Speci.
  • 10 10
 Wrong. Do some real research.
  • 8 0
 Its a PR move
  • 7 0
 marketing bs
  • 5 0
 Why are they pushing e-bikes if so concerned about climate change? Human powered bikes are most eco-friendly.
  • 12 11
 This is a step in the right direction. Making people aware there is a problem. However far too many people are still complacent to the huge amount of carbon ripped from the world every year to feed our industry. Regardless of how carbon bikes are made it's a huge amount of carbon pulled from the earth that can't be put back. There is a much larger issue that cannot possibly be addressed here. But seeing a company as big as specialized taking steps is encouraging.
  • 40 39
 Global cooling, then global warming, now climate change. The climate has always changed. This notion that we can control the climate is a farce. Trying to curb carbon dioxide, the gas that comes out of our mouthes as we breath, when we are actively doing so much harm to the planate like dumping millions of tons of glyphosate and other toxins is joke. It's a massive money and power grab so the powers that be can regulate, again, the hot hair coming out of your mouth, all while they continue to pollute the planate and make a killing while they do it.
  • 19 22
 this guy gets it, shame most sheeple don't..
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 Well said westeast. Not to mention the harm that this political hoax is doing to erode trust in science.

Now they’re using a 16 year old girl to push their agenda. It’s beyond sick.
  • 20 3
 Yeah! Those fat cat scientists are screwing us all for huge profits.
  • 7 7
 @mdsgh13: Billions in research grants and funding. Go against the narrative and face being ostracized.

This is exactly what happens - m.youtube.com/watch?v=3WbGVAo1hyQ&t=1508s
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 @mdsgh13: You know those scientist depend on grants right?

Not easy to get a grant to do research that goes against the consensus. That word is kind of funny, amazing how climate change fans have to us it. Science doesn't depend on consensus. You can have a consensus of 99.9% of all scientists and they can still be wrong.

Just a really simple example- at one point there was a 99.99% consensus among scientists that the earth was flat.
  • 9 11
 They say eater levels will rise at least 10 feet in the next 20 years. So why do the banks keep giving mortgage loans for Florida beachfront property if this is the case? Answer: because the banks know it's false science
  • 3 3
 @ibishreddin: they say sealevels will rise 10 ft in the next 20 years?
Who’s they? This is the dumbest sh!t I’ve heard in the last 20 years.
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 The group think, the lack of academic freedom, and lack of free speech going on in our schools and universities is disgusting. The universities and science organizations need a major reform.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpYOF4Hi6Q
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 Take a look at ‘The Green New Deal’ by the neo socialists. Its a form of religion for these morons.

As said above, one of the disastrous aspects is the focus it removes from genuine ecosystem collapse caused by habitat loss and solid/liquid pollutants. Species cope very well with Co2 variation. Any visit to a commercial greenhouse where they pump in 3x atmospheric Co2 concentration to increase plant health will tell you that.

Maybe the climate is warming, (although the tampering of thermometer locations to skew results is rampant) we’re in an interglacial period after all. However, Co2 as a driver for atmospheric temperature, especially the 0.04% anthropogenic contribution is an absolute joke.
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 @whatyousaid: also science labs only receive Federal funding if the complete a quota of papers written/research done. Leaves open the possibility for sloppy, or even false research if they are rushing to make a quota
  • 7 3
 @jclnv: Pollution is the other big hoax, perpetuated by those nefarious climate scientists. That stuff coming out of your tail pipe is delicious cotton candy steam, the trees eat it at teatime.
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 What is a planate?
But on a less serious note (because it doesn't matter at all at this point): you really believe that the human race pumping out massive quantities of what for all intents and purposes is a waste product (which through experience are generally ALWAYS good for our environment), whose production due to, amongst other things, overpopulation (I guess 8 billion+ people breathing all the time aren't helping, but hey, we've never had this many folks here, ever) and a complete lack of regulation (or concern) has skyrocketed since the industrial revolution, while said populus at the same time removes more and more of those things that clean that stuff from the air, has had and will have absolutely no effect on the temperature/climate/weather of our "planate" and the pace it's happening which has never before been historically recorded nor proven through scientific investigation?
Well, ok then. Fair enough.
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 @50percentsure: Solid/liquid waste pollution is far from a hoax. Pesticides, plastics, chemicals etc are having disastrous affects.
  • 1 0
 @Laymo: Oh come on, using greenpeace as a source of info on this really, are you mad?
  • 2 0
 @ssteve: That’s a great link. It only takes 10 comments under the post for it to be totally debunked.
  • 1 0
 @jclnv: IPA is a Coal Mining Industry lobby group here in Australia. Not really any unbiased research coming from there.
  • 1 0
 @TheOriginalTwoTone: People have posited the round earth theory since ancient Greece. So not really.
  • 2 1
 @cford: The argument was Peter Ridd’s. The IPA covered the story. One of my favourite quotes is, “the argument is valid no matter where it originated”.
  • 1 0
 @jclnv: whoa whoa whoa... you mean the thing you found on the internets wasn't not made real becuz it dun had no commentz (no kommentz sexcion) is more righter?
  • 3 1
 @ssteve: Yes, it was basic arithmetic used to debunk it in the comments. That’s healthy science and public discourse right there. However, the AGW movement usually shuts down criticism so we rarely hear the counterview.

Ya see. Science, before climate change, wasn’t a religion that couldn’t be challenged. Now we see terms like “denier” as if someone who disputes the anthropogenic global warming is akin to a holocaust denier. It’s so clearly a political movement at this stage with it’s child demigod at the top. If it tells you one thing it’s how easily the masses can be manipulated which ironically goes much further to explain the holocaust.

As Feynman said,
  • 2 1
 @ssteve: Steve, I Should add that I was also sure of the Co2/warming agenda and it took a while for me to understand what was going on. But like with most things, once you realise the usual motivations, money and control, is at the root of all of it.

It’s depressing and maddening.
  • 1 0
 @jclnv: Well I don't know what AGW is (too lazy to google, something global warming blah blah). That being said I'm also not a climate scientist (one of those outlandish and rare unbiased ones).

Fair enough; people are easily controlled by money, and there's bias in everything due to that (and many other factors, including your business, your job, location, your friends and family), but not being able to admit to the possibility that human activity influences climate change (or vice versa) in any measurable way is simply partisanship, which is incredibly boring and at the same time regression. I wholly admit that natural occurrences in our planets climate could also be a major contributing factor, but to say without any shred of doubt of one's opinion that something doesn't exist because of things you read or believe, is pure ignorance. But I could be wrong.

Aside from that what would be the goal? That we recycle more? Pollute less as a society? Try to stop the extinction of species due to degrading habitat? Well that'd be terrible, we need the space, after all. Surely it can't just be those evil scientists trying to get their hands on those trillions in grant money.

Sure. The economic shift would benefit lots of folks, but it would be a fairly definitive disadvantage for those who currently control consumer markets (we're going with your assumption here, that money=influence=power=control). I have to ask: what would be the goal?

My opinion on the matter still lies in the grey. I believe in cause and effect so for me it seems pretty clear that the cause is our never-ending more more more attitude and the effect is everybody's f*cked.
  • 5 0
 Why not close a factory for the day? Probably cut off more emissions.
  • 7 6
 Unbelievable. So many ignoramuses (global warming deniers) out there. With all the information readily available people still believe that global warming is a hoax? Maybe the earth is flat too or 5000 years old? We all need to look the truth strait in the eye and stop trying to be stupidly funny and get serious about how we all can do something to protect our environment and save our ONLY EARTH. Peace out.
  • 4 1
 no one denies it's warming, the issue is that its a totally natural phenomena the planet has warmed and cooled many times, we are actually coming out of an ice age right now, the planet isn't warming its going back to its normal non iceage temperature. if this is caused by man how did the other 5-6 iceage/warming cycles occur?
Man made climate change is the myth, one that governments have found is a very effective way to tax more and more money out of people in the name of saving the poor children.
We are not going to see any real affects for a loooonnggg time but there is nothing we can do to stop it or slow it.
we just have to accept that we are possibly going to go extinct because of it at some point in the future just like 99.9% of every species that ever existed has.

TL;;DR we can't win so why try.
  • 3 1
 @b45her: Wrong on a couple of points. Go to the south pacific and you will find countries that are very much feeling the effects of climate change and rising sea levels. It might be worth spending the carbon so you stop spewing such nonsense. I'd prefer to keep shredding rather than go extinct so I'm all for measures we can take to stop trashing our planet.
  • 4 1
 @underhillz: it doesnt matter how much carbon we stop producing, we could produce none at all and the temperature would still rise, man made Co2 is around 1.2-1.8% of the total that is produced.
look at history prior to the last 200 years or so rather than relying on the very selective data that the climate change cultists endlessly regurgitate. we will almost certainly find a way to wipe our selves out way before NATURAL climate change gets to the point where we cannot manage it.
  • 5 4
 If you actually care about the health of the planet the easiest change an individual can make is to focus on diet and consumption habits. Stop buying industrially raised meat; animal products (mainly beef & pork) are extremely energy inefficient and contribute to terrible agricultural practices, ie: using arable land to grow stock feed instead of food for humans. Then there's the transportation, packaging, and storage of animal products in the "developed" world. Be mindful of the environmental impact that cheap ground beef packaged in a styrofoam tray and plastic wrapped sitting in a cooler running 24/7 at your grocery store has. Want to eat meat? Cool, go hunt or befriend a hunter or local rancher, or switch to a mostly, or wholly, plant based diet. ...bonus points, you'll probably benefit your personal health as well.
  • 3 2
 Specialized... The company that started the exodus for offshoring mountain bike production is closing their web page to protest climate change. Talk about hypocrisy.

The entire neo-liberal economic dogma (ie factor proportions theory) that supported this move was not subtle. It was based on a motive to exploit the lack of environmental regulations, health and safety regulations, and living wage that the overseas production enabled them to increase their profit margin. Thus, directly playing a role and contributing to the crisis they are now allegedly protesting.

If they really cared about climate change, maybe they work to reduce emissions in the manufacture and distribution of their bicycles. But since all that production is outsourced (ie externalized) they can just lift their hands in the air and say "it is out of our control"
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 "UN Secretary-General António Guterres is calling on all leaders to come to New York on 23 September with concrete, realistic plans to enhance their nationally determined contributions by 2020"

Donald Trump plans to show up with a dumptruck full of coal and light it on fire in front of the UN.
  • 1 0
 Until they find a way to harness electricity from the hot air in the Pinkbike comment section, the best any of us can do is:

1. go to globalclimatestrike.net,
2. take Friday off to attend a strike in our city,
3. attend,
4. then spend the rest of the day riding.
  • 2 1
 A movement started by children, which is pretty much the ultimate way to increase your footprint. Less people = less impact, so if they were never born the planet would be better off. People want to talk about renewable energy, disposable plastics, etc.. but still shit out a kid.
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 People don't want to talk about all the radiation from wireless communications, radar and anything else that uses antennas.
We have essentially put our earth into a microwave oven.

To blame individual people for this problem is what the globalists want, so some day they can charge you for the air you breath in a hotel room. if you think thats nuts then you need to look up quotes from the guy who received the Nobel prize with Al Gore.

Students don't organize besides a bake sale. This has George Soros written all over it and brainwashed people think they are doing something by protesting Co2? so stupid. our exhaust is not a waste product hurting the world,. co2 is plant food.

Specialized caught up in this new world order "politically correct" cheerleading BS. get real guys.
  • 6 5
 Oh you really seem to spend too much time on the Internet and not reading boks since you seem to believe almost every bollox theory there is. All in one post. #science
  • 9 3
 @dj100procentenduro: you may be referring to yourself with that statement.
  • 1 0
 And why is no one going after China, India, and Africa to clean up or a least have some environmental standards?
  • 8 5
 Holy shit did this article bring out the lunatics. Never knew so many Infowars fans were into high end mountain bikes.
  • 9 7
 holy shit this article brings out the left, socialist lunatics. never knew so many mtn bikers were brainwashed and were into high end bikes.......being of the brainwashed socialist side, would lead me to believe the economy in those countries would be bad due to socialism and they wouldn't be able to afford high end mtn bikes and because they are socialist and they believe in redistribution of wealth, they wouldn't want anyone else to have anything better than them.
  • 1 1
 Bikes can assist with making the world better but it’s odd that the cycle industry is pushing the resource draining ebikes.

Whilst every other industry is working to decrease their environmental footprint the bike industry are going hell for leather trying to increase theirs.

For example where are all the resources going to come from that go into the batteries, from mines. (Also applies to vehicles) then there is the fact of where does the leccy come from to charge these batteries, if we all go over to leccy vehicles solar and wind isn’t going to cut it so it will require more power stations.

That’s before we even get into the black hole that is the industries carbon fibre waste.
  • 5 3
 Specialized and their BS virtue signaling.
After reading the comments, I'm glad to see that there are still some people who aren't drinking the "Climate Emergency" Kool-Aid.
  • 1 0
 Will Specialized stores be closed too?
Of course not.
Will they stop making carbon frames? No
Reminds me of the Honda 'Helpful' commercials where they concoct bullshit scenarios where they pretend to 'help' people.
  • 1 0
 Go Specialized!! We can all be climate activists regardless of our personal carbon footprint. There's no standard for moral use of fossil fuels that allows you to advocate for action.
  • 2 0
 Sooo... we will see a lot of Specialized banners at NYC streets at 20th ? )
  • 3 2
 Low fat, certified organic, health alternative, gluten free, natural, climate change, net carbs.....the list of marketing terms is endless
  • 4 1
 I bet the plant in taiwan that makes their bikes isn't striking!
  • 3 0
 Does anyone remember how to make that “fart” noise with their armpit?
  • 1 0
 Well I can’t strike Friday but I’ll go continue on doing cavitation repair so the dams can continue to make electricity with no emissions........
  • 3 1
 Climate change agenda = bigger government takeover. Can’t wait for the next civil to element you pukes. Peace out.
  • 2 0
 Do not support this- there is no climate crisis! But I will reduce my carbon footprint by ruling out Specialized in future!
  • 1 0
 watermelon communism, green on the outside, red on the inside. much like apple, specialized is ironically not very cost-effective for all their virtue signalling.
  • 7 7
 Earth is alive and fighting back. It's like my friend said. These crazy hurricanes are Earth clearing its throat of phlegm. We need to help tho.
  • 8 7
 This is a symbolic gesture, but a symbolic gesture can be a catalyst to action. Well done, Mr. Sinyard.
  • 2 1
 I pedal the planet forward often...but I drive my SUV 30 minutes (at a minimum) to do so.
  • 3 1
 They sure know their target market, and how to play em....????
  • 5 2
 Oh for Christ's sake!
  • 3 1
 I somewhat regret buying my new stumpy
  • 2 1
 Stupid, just Stupid. And I'm a Specialized fan. And, true, their website sucks.
  • 3 1
 I'll be riding my moto on Friday. Burning one dinosaur at a time.
  • 2 2
 After the climate change has occurred (has anyone got that date yet, just asking for a friend), will my Strava times be adjusted to allow for this influence.
  • 2 0
 Unsupporting support for a lost cause.
  • 1 0
 They are so COOL. Who gives a F'. Perhaps they should shut it down forever. Posers.
  • 12 12
 Oh great, now bicycle companies are joining the political hysteria. I guess I'm not buying from them again.
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 Climate change has been proven by scientists to be completely natural. How does closing a website help anything anyway? Climate change is a political myth to control you using fear tactics
  • 5 0
 Except that the confidence level to say it is manmade is around 95%.
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 Keep politics out of my bike porn.
  • 4 7
 Yay let's strike, that will stop the Earth's natural processes!!! Hmm....
The 'climate change' people refer to is actually the human effect on the planet. It's not "climate change" as in humans physically being able to stop/alter our environment. Here's the deal, climate change has been happening for millenia (ice ages come and go), it's also historically a very abused subject by politicians for their own gain.
Can we reduce the effect we as a species have on this planet? Yes. Can we stop "climate change"? f*ck no. Mother nature is unstoppable. Try it and die.
Nature naturally seeks balance, hot and cold, low pressure and high pressure, nature seeks equilibrium. Thus, when the balance is sufficiently upset, nature will once again create balance by killing off excess population.
Which leads me to believe the common hype over carbon this, carbon that is nothing other than fabricated bollocks to line someones pocket....
Carbon Dioxide is plant food. Have an issue with rising levels? Plant more trees, stop clear cutting forests.
  • 4 3
 I'll be working on chainsaws to balance things out a bit.
  • 1 0
 haha what a bunch of hypocrites
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 Lol
  • 10 5
 It's the most important issue we face so it's good to at least show some support for the young people behind this movement who are justifiably standing up for their endangered future.
  • 8 8
 @Laymo: pardon me while I puke
  • 4 5
 @Laymo: far more important issues,
People are dieing everyday day from things that are not even related to climate change. Worry about all those deaths and solve those important issues.
  • 4 3
 @brncr6: Without a stable climate there will be little food to eat, no forests, miserable weather, and no hope for the future.
  • 4 4
 No hope for the future? Really? Well if everything is so hopeless why not just end it now? I’ve got plenty of hope for the future thanks!
  • 5 2
 @Laymo: typical reply, look at L.A. or S.F 2 of the biggest nastiest cities around run by Democrats that are preaching climate change. Rats, human
poop and pee all over the city's. Ban straws but hand out free needles to do drugs with. Your more likely to get murdered in a robbery or killed by a drunk driver then you are of being killed by climate change.
How many people die on the side of the road riding specialized? Why not work on driver awareness??
The carbon bikes they keep pumping out good for the health of our plant?
How about the batterys in there ebikes?? What was the cause of climate change before humans?
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 @brncr6: You are clearly a manipulated and misinformed Fox News watcher who is just a parrot for Trump's distractions from all of his many criminal actions as President.

Bringing homelessness up as a way to discredit global warming shows you have no legitimate knowledge on this subject and just anger against liberals. Everybody dies when global warming turns into runaway global warming, so your questions are just dumb.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: I never said I had no hope for the future as you disingenuously implied, I'm just speculating on what the future is going to feel like for the young people on this planet. Is it a normal practice of yours to encourage people to commit suicide when they bring up environmental concerns? What does that says about you as a human being?
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 Such a loser
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 @Laymo: so drop everything and let's all worry about global warming!!!!!
You clearly stay at home and watch cnn exclusive!!!!
And no I'm not a trump supporter,
I dont even vote. I could care less who is president weather it be a Democrat Republican
  • 2 0
 @Laymo: I care about the things I see happening right in front of us.
If we cant take care of our own, like the homeless and drug addicts then we are truly f**k.
All you seem to care about is yourself,
You clearly are afraid you going to die because of global warming or your kids will. As long as the homeless people and drug addicts dont affect your life you dont care. All about you and your life. You cant have a conversation with someone like an adult, you would rather work your way around and be little a person. Your part of the problem.
Conversation has died and I'm right and your wrong is the new way we talk with each other.
Keep up your attacks on people you disagree with, sure it makes you feel morally superior.
  • 26 29
 Thinking aloud here... WTF does a 16 year old really know about the world..... Not taking either side on this issue I'm just remembering all the things I thought I had figured out at 16 but really I still don't know shit.
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 A lot.
  • 23 7
 WTF does any given person living in a suburb know about the world...I'd trust a 16-year old who's been to more than one country than someone who's spent their life learning from the television and not leaving their zip code.
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 What about the majority of world's scientists that say the same thing the 16 year old does?
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 WTF does it matter if it help against global warming by raising awareness about the problem ? I know I know 'Murica (f*ck yeah) don't believe in Global Warming, you prefer to believe in God which has been proved by many studies as opposed to Global Warming ! So keep driving your 6L V8 Truck for 2 miles to go buy your monster energy can when thirsty and let us dumb europeans worry about none existing problems.
  • 4 4
 @tegnamo: tsss... they still think that Spain is situated in South America..
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 @Balgaroth: no offence but you seem like a bit of a douche.
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 This 16 year old has singlehandedly brought more attention to climate change than probably the next 5 people on that list.

Wether she has done it all by herself or „only“ acted as a spokesperson doesn’t matter to me as long as there will be a change in public thinking in the end.
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 Aside from the fact that age doesn’t necessarily equate to wisdom, I don’t think Greta is saying she knows anything more about the world than what science has been telling us for decades. She’s just voicing our collective concern in a way that we’ve become too selfish or defeatist to do.
  • 4 8
flag gcrider (Sep 18, 2019 at 6:05) (Below Threshold)
 Just thinking aloud here. I think you should shut your mouth. Respectfully.
  • 2 2
 What specialized website. Have a good feeling the porn site's will stay open.
  • 10 7
 He handlers have done a masterful job using her as a pawn to get media attention. She knows... as much as any other 16 year old with an internet connection.
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 @Balgaroth: ummm yeah, MURICA! f*ck YEAH! I'll keep driving my 7.4 L Diesel V8 with the American flag flying, with a Coors light in one hand and a Monster at the other while punching drywall and f*cking your sister. In the next war, we'll wait for you guys to show up.

But anyways, you aren't better than everyone else. Stop trying throw blame at others. We're all in this together and it'll get figured out.
  • 4 5
 @gcrider: blow me... i didn't take a stance on anything
  • 4 3
 @Pedro404: Hey, obviously you can't read.... but I said I'm not taking either side I'm saying why would anyone listen to ANYTHING a 16 year old has to say
  • 3 2
 You did take a stance on that you don’t know anything. Which in itself is knowing something I think she probably knows alot about the environment and activism. @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: i do feel your retaliatory abuse was warranted
  • 1 1
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: pff... people listening and watching today such a shit online and on TV, so ...
  • 5 3
 @rideitall-bmx-dh-road-unicycle: Because the 16 year old is stating scientific facts. Your position is like saying you wouldn't listen to a 16 year old saying that the bench you're about to sit on is freshly painted just because of their age.
  • 5 4
 @Pedro404: "Because the 16 year old is stating scientific facts."
that is funny, really really funny!
Thank you!
  • 2 1
 @powderturns: A douche perhaps, but he's not completely wrong.
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 @ORhvac: Not really. Of course you can't paint all Americans with the same brush but "we" as a whole have elected leaders (mainly our orange president) who are largely ignorant to climate change, who have not done anything to try and prevent it, but have gone out of their way to rollback regulations which is going to make it worse.

I'm sorry but people in other countries who are concerned about climate change have every right to shit on the US right now, we are a disgrace when it comes to the issue.
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 @ORhvac: Didn't say we europeans don't need to make an effort too but here are (already "old") facts for you: www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33133712
My Megane 1.6l does not have the same impact than any car/camper/caravan you ride in your country. I went last year and visited Canada, I was shocked and depressed by the size of all your cars and everything in general, aircon running full steam everywhere too. Heck my van in which I travel the Alps is a "small" 2.5l diesel and is well enough for everything, why do you need bigger ?

@powderturns: if you are not aware check the lin above. Sure my way of expressing might offence some snowflakes but why would I care when the whole north american continent doesn't give a crap about the future of the rest of hearth habitants ?
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 @jasminov: Anyone who can read (16yo where I leave can do that) can read scientific papers, understand them and quote them. Nothing mind blowing really. Thing is those papers exist and all depict a pretty bad climate change situation, she just reports to the wider audience those findings. Nobody said she was a scientist, at worst she is a fancy parrot, at best she actually understands what she says, either way as long as the message is understood by the wider audience and bring general awareness this is a win.
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 @Balgaroth: Shipping containers produces more greenhouse gas emissions than some small countries. According to The Essential Daily Briefing: “It has been estimated that just one of these container ships, the length of around six football pitches, can produce the same amount of pollution as 50 million cars."

According to Google.
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 @jaame: yes it is one of the many problems. Yet it europe for example you would produce more CO2 by shipping your product from East Europe to France by truc than bringing your products from Asia by boat with many many more products in it. So while you'd think buy European would be good for the planet, well it isn't quite that simple. Best way to reduce your CO2 emissions is simply to re-use and repair as much as possible and buy new stuff only when absolutely necessary. And for food locally (3/40km) sourced organic food with reduced quantity of meat or none at all. So no more Boost and Mars bars, and no new bike every season ...
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 @jaame: i didn't say they don't produce CO2, but if you were to produce in East Europe and transport the exact same amount of products in Western EU with trucks you'd actually create even more pollution. Kinda like saying that a bus is using more petrol than a car, which is true but per heads it doesn't.
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 @Balgaroth: those container ships usually have a crew of about seven, so that’s a lot of pollution per head whatever way you look at it
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 @Balgaroth: my family ranch and farms, can't pull cattle in a 1.6L. Everyone is different bud, we can only do what we can.
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 @ORhvac: Well the cattle isn't great for the climate either...
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 @Pedro404: but it it pretty great for the tastebuds!
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 @ORhvac: go vegeterian, no cattle to produce Methane, and you can drive a normal size car which will save you money and reduce your footprint and probably make you healthier too. That's a win-win-win-win situation mate you can't argue Smile
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 @Balgaroth: you just told him and his whole family to quit their jobs and sell their vehicles to save the environment.

A noble idea to be sure but how do you propose they live moving forward?
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 @wibblywobbly: well you are aware that you can farm vegetables and not only animals right ? Anyway that's something we do around here, and more and more at small scale/organic. Also by the sound of it I understood it like some sort of thing on the side not a main source of living. Here farmers use tractors to work, no pick-up trucks. Most of farmers would have their tractor (tool) which I have no problem with, and then a small car for everyday life. Maybe a van (here usually a 2.5l diesel) to go sell to local markets or move stuff around.
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 @Balgaroth: got it. You know what’s best for him. No wonder the UK wants to brexit. What if he can’t profitably grow vegetables?
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 Go vegetarian? LOL! That's funny bud. You hop on that high horse of yours and ride off too the sunset Mr. Righteous.
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 @wibblywobbly: If your job consists of exploiting animals while simultaneously killing the environment everyone lives in, then yeah, you shouldn't do it. Last time I checked there was plenty of other jobs besides farming cattle.
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 @ORhvac: So making an effort so can all still have a planet where we can living decently in a few years is jumping on a high horse ? See that's why the world hates Usa, beside you and yourself you don't give a crap and will never make a single effort. Even during WW2 you didn't come because it was the right thing to do but because you were affraid that if the Germans won over UK they would come for you. That, and the poor state of economy was starting to impact the juicy war profits the USA built itself on.
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 @Balgaroth: or conversely, people in the USA don’t appreciate people who have never been here and have zero understanding of how real life actually works here telling them how to live their life.

Why can’t we invest in technology and look for solutions to pollution and environmental degradation instead of lowering our standard of living like you Euros want to do.

In Europe you want to get rid of all cars. Here in America we made the Tesla.

Different means to the same end.
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 @wibblywobbly: The excess that many Americans call normal is not sustainable, and that seems to be the point being made here. America is obsessed with “American freedom” which is the espousal of having the right to do whatever you want, independently of how it affects the world around you. (Most of) the rest of the world believes in freedom of equity, justice, and the common good. Your comment of “we don’t like being told what to do” is a perfect example of ‘Merica. It also happens to be what spoiled children like to say.
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 @wibblywobbly: Since when a Tesla is actually a green option ? eCar use electricity that is either produced by coal, nuclear, or sometimes renewable energies. Let alone the ecological disaster that is the extraction of Lithium and rare metals in order to produce batteries and sophisticated electronics. Sure it doesn't happen where we live, and it's not our kids that are being exploited but if you are not ok with your land being f*cked and your kids to work in mines, should you be ok with tit being done on the other side of the globe ? Even renewable energies are not so bright, to produce a windmill, a solar panel, or a dam you need to extract some materials from somewhere, probably some mountain somewhere being chipped away. And what about the wildlife that used to live where the damn is now keeping it's energy ? what about the birds being chopped to bits by windmills ? All this for your "green" Tesla ? The only energy that doesn't hurt the planet is the one you don't use, they is no way around it. Now do you actually need a massive car/engine ? You probably don't, most euros do the same shit than you do with "normal" cars. i've been to your continent, seen it, took a good mesure of the whole Nonsens and I came back home quite disgusted to be fair. But you sure do the same for everything, food is another prime exemple. You are pretty much all fat (yes all, even the "normal ones") because while you need a burger and a glass of water to fulfill your needs you'll get a double, with large coke and whatever else. More is always better is your moto isn't it , Well that is simply not compatible with preserving the planet and its other habitants wehter animals, vegetals or even humans. But hey you probably don't give a damn.
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 @Balgaroth: got it. You hate America. We are all fat slobs and you disagree with our standard of living. Any other insults you want to get out? Should we all be killed to save the planet? Or should we all voluntarily live like it’s the middle of the dark ages? Do we need some sort of dictator to ensure we have a lower standards of living. How far do we have to go.

One one side we have a bunch of kooks stockpiling guns afraid the gubbmint is going to take their freedom. The we have people like you on the other side who WANT the government would take everyone’s freedom.

Explains a lot about the world these days.
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 @wibblywobbly: Again with the freedom... Do you really think the US is more free than all other democratic countries? Yes, it is more free than Venezuela or North Korea, but obviously that’s not a fair comparison.
If you live in a society, your action have repercussion so you have to make concessions.
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 @wibblywobbly: i have the freedom to buy a big car in France too if that's what I want, I also have the freedom to est meat for breakfast, lunch and dinner, and if I really want to nobody will really stop me from burning tires to make a thick black toxic smoke for the craic. And in all my freedom I choose not to. I use that freedom I have in France to live a healthier way of life in a hope that it will help protect our planet. I sure like to have plenty of bikes and if I can somewhat offset that by stopping myself from eating meat and having a big car I can make that small effort for the greater good. It doesn't mean living in the dark ages as far as I know I still have internet, still eat plenty of healthy organic food and still get to ride my bike most days of the week.
So you see freedom can accomplish great think not only fast food, guns and trucks. What is sad is that you guys have the freedom and power to do this too but you prefer not to because you are not willing to make an effort for a concept that will not benefit USA directly. You are a big nation and this type of changes would make much more impact than even if France was to disappear all of a sudden but you are not willing to make an effort. What's even more stupid is that you don't do it because you won't benefit from it on the short term, but ironically you will be as f*cked as any of us when the planet will he dead.
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 @Balgaroth: He won't be f*cked, because the planet is not going to die in the next 80 years. His kids will live full and healthy lives too if they so choose. Eating meat is just another imaginary thing to complain about. I'll just add it to the list.
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 @wibblywobbly: well said
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 @Balgaroth: "Since when a Tesla is actually a green option ? eCar use electricity that is either produced by coal, nuclear, or sometimes renewable energies. Let alone the ecological disaster that is the extraction of Lithium and rare metals in order to produce batteries and sophisticated electronics. "

ahh...c'mon, man, they still think Tesla is 'eco-friendly' thing, don't ruine their dreams..
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 Good on Specialized.
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 *yawn* mmm snacks
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 Yes well done then the rest needs to follow this thinking!!!!!
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 www.harderide.com will be open and $1 from every product sale will go to aiding the fight against climate change!
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 it is just the gretinism.
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 Striking news.
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 Is climate change/global warming really a bad thing tho? I'm personally all for more decent weather!
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 The Romans grew grapes in Edinburgh. People used to have bonfires on the River Thames. But because of cars the globalism of thermal reactivity and carbon conglomerates in the upper middle electron shell, the planet is totally fucked because of humans. We'll all die in 500 years if we don't sail to conferences at the other side of the world and preach to world leaders about what we were taught in school in the previous semester. save the earth!
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 We can bike the whole year thanks to climate change?

No seriously, trees are suffering of hydric stress, I could notice dying trees in July, with plenty of green leafs on the ground. I asked the forest keeper, he said some pine trees do not resist very much the droughts.

Same shit happened in the nearby Vosges in France:

www.lemonde.fr/planete/article/2019/07/24/la-secheresse-et-la-canicule-deciment-les-forets-francaises_5492869_3244.html
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 @zoobab2: I love riding my bike in the woods, it's the best thing ever. But 80% of the worlds oxygen is produced by phytoplankton in the oceans...
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