Spotted: Greg Callaghan is Riding a New Devinci Enduro Bike in Finale Ligure

Sep 26, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
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Photo: Matt Delorme

Greg Callaghan is riding an unreleased Devinci enduro bike for the final EWS race of the year in Finale Ligure. In today's Shakedown, Callaghan was spotted riding the bike publicly for the first time and TJ Smith, our videographer, was able to capture him in action.

Photo credit Klemen Humar Unior Devinci
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The current Spartan (left) vs Greg's Finale bike (right)

The current version of Devinci's flagship enduro bike, the Spartan, was released in September 2018 as a 29"/29" bike with 165mm of rear travel. The bike Greg is riding is definitely different from that current Spartan model, with the kinked top tube now meeting the seat tube directly rather than splitting in two and forming a triangle. The area around the bottom bracket has also been remodelled with the shape of the bottom mount changed and more space underneath it. We'd say it would be a good place to store a tube, but it looks like Greg has gone for the top tube mount for his tools and bits.

It's very possible that he's not aboard a Spartan but the new Troy - Devinici's website says that's due to be released on September 30th. Given the tight, awkward nature of some of the tracks this weekend, something with a little less travel and quicker handling would make sense.

While the Split Pivot suspension design has probably been carried over from the current Spartan or Troy, it looks like there's now an interesting kink in the seatstay, although we're not sure why at this point.

Greg comes in at 2:19

Beyond the surface, we'd be interested to see what other changes Devinci has made. In 2018, we described the 65° head tube angle of the Spartan in the low setting as "ballpark", however things have moved on in the past couple of years so we wouldn't be surprised to see a longer, lower, slacker treatment on this bike. The previous bike also had adjustable geometry and used Super Boost spacing, it will be interesting to see if Devinci has stuck with those features going forwards as well.

You can see the bike in action from our raw video and we're working on getting some better shots of the bike at the moment so check back for a more detailed look later in the weekend.



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91 Comments
  • 73 2
 It's the Troy 2021. Here's a better photo:
ibb.co/zr4cBbj
  • 13 0
 A quite significantly better photo. Also clicking on that link blind gave me AIM flashbacks.
  • 4 1
 looks so much better without the giant white lettering
  • 5 0
 Using an angle meter App on this high quality photo, the effective STA looks to be at least 77 degrees (I get a solid 78 deg. actually) at the middle of the seatpost at the photographed seat height. Not sure how steep PB engineers want bikes to be, but it does look to be “fixed”
  • 1 0
 Is that a 36 or a 38? I cannot tell by the decal.
  • 5 1
 @sngltrkmnd: Looks like a 38
  • 2 1
 I think it’s a 38 from the decal. Wonder if they bumped travel up on the new generation.
  • 4 2
 There is a literal rats nest below the shock where all the cables have a party! Big Grin
  • 2 0
 @t0mislav: Anything below 95° is outdated.
  • 1 0
 @t0mislav: ya, when 'they' say "longer, lower, slacker" need to add steeper too
  • 1 0
 Basically a long travel Django. Which isn’t a bad thing.
  • 7 0
 @LuvAZ: That's one thing I wish all two-wheeled sports would learn from cars. Have a badge or an elegant logo on it, don't plaster your company's name all over the thing Frown
  • 3 0
 Those designers are insane wild men, what a radical change from the last model.
  • 2 0
 sooo pretty much the same as the former gen?
  • 2 0
 I'm 100% sure PB could have told us that. They just like to make bike releases seem like some CIA top secret information.
  • 28 3
 Hopefully they fixed the STA. Only thing missing to make the Troy my perfect bike. At least looks like no more ugly third triangle at the top tube junction. Can't wait for the review tomorrow!
  • 3 1
 What year are you riding if you don't mind me asking? Beer
  • 8 8
 Spoiler: No, they didn't fix the STA.
  • 16 0
 @southoftheborder: you sure? I pulled the image below into CAD and measure effective STA at 77 degrees, if taken at a height level with top of head tube. Head angle measures at 65 degrees. We'll see if I'm right when the geo chart comes out.
  • 3 10
flag rrsport (Sep 25, 2020 at 11:26) (Below Threshold)
 @DMal: high chance your calcs are wrong since the shot of the new bike is being ridden which can alter things a degree or two
  • 2 0
 @Dropthedebt: 2018
  • 2 2
 @rrsport: bike seems to be pretty much unweighted in the second sho though so might be able to make a fairly close guess
  • 25 0
 @rrsport: hi res image lower down in the comments. Do you really think I would try to measure angles off a bike while it’s being ridden?!
  • 7 0
 @DMal: That would be some CSI stuff right there. "Enhance! Measure this angle! Oh, what do we have here?"
  • 3 0
 @DMal: spoiler alert - hi res image below, and no they did not fix the actual seat tube angle.
  • 2 0
 @shredddr: actual seat tube angle measures around 68 degrees.
  • 8 2
 @DMal: effective STA measurements are BS. How many riders use the saddle at the same height as the handlebar?
  • 4 0
 Agreed, I'm tall and effective measurements are BS.
  • 6 2
 @southoftheborder: you are correct that effective STA varies with saddle height since it is a function of actual STA and offset of the seat tube. But pretty much every full suspension bike out there has an offset seat tube, and it is possible for your seat to end up in a good spot in spite of a slack actual STA.

It also doesn't help that there is no consistency across brands on how effective STA is measured, and that sagged geometry plays a role in how the bike fits. Bottom line is that it's hard to know what you're getting in terms of effective STA and top tube length until you sit on the bike.
  • 6 2
 @DMal: no - I disagree. it's not possible for the saddle to be in a good position at all times with a slack actual STA. When seated, you're either going to be uncomfortably close to the bars with the saddle down, like riding a kids tricycle, or with the saddle at full climbing height you're going to be behind the rear axle - a heinous position for climbing. admittedly, the issue is greater for tall riders or those with longer than average legs for their height, but it's certainly an issue. that's my take anyway.
  • 3 1
 That actually made the Spartan the coolest looking bike available; IMO!
  • 3 0
 @DMal: I disagree. To an extent. Even when as you say it's almost impossible to know how did a brand measure the effective STA, it's pretty simple for anyone to check for themselves if the saddle would end in a pre-2020 zone or not. In this particular case, the Devinci is clearly a not-so-modern design.
  • 1 0
 @shredddr @southoftheborder these are fair points. I definitely agree that a steeper actual STA keeps things from getting slack at high seat heights. As a shorter rider at 5'8", it's been less of an issue for me.
  • 5 0
 @paja-tousek: when you say “enhance”, I think more Super Troopers than CSI...
  • 17 9
 All the fuss about seat angle is funny. There was a time when,not too long ago either, a 74-75.5 angle was the norm and no one gave a shit. Now, its the Holy Grail of geometric discussion and debate. The reality is, unless you climb steep terrain with some tech thrown in or trying to PR your climbs while seated it doesn't matter what the angle is; within reason, because the the part of the ride that most everyone is out for is the DH, where the flipping seat is slammed and your standing in attack position anyway! LOL

To add most knuckle heads probably don't even climb more than 25-30 minutes a ride to get to the top and would benefit more by shedding a few pounds of luggage from there bellies and asses to climb more efficiently + adding a steady routine of strength training into the equation.
  • 4 0
 @DMal: "JUST PRINT THE DAMN THING ALREADY"
  • 3 0
 @likeittacky: but then again no too long ago you didn't have that much choice.
nowadays when STAs ramge from 74 to around 80 you can try and compare differences.

also I have to argue from personal experience that climbing definitely feels more comfortable with a steeper STA and puts less strain on your back.
at least that's true for me.
  • 7 1
 @likeittacky: "unless you climb steep terrain with some tech thrown in-". Literally every single climb around me, gimme that steep seat tube.

Telling people to lose weight is totally unrelated to the discussion. Regardless of seat angle, we could all benefit from losing weight and being healthy. so your point is...?
  • 1 0
 @DMal:

GANGSTA!!
  • 1 5
flag singelton (Sep 26, 2020 at 15:43) (Below Threshold)
 I have the LTD version and have never had an issue with the STA. PB has to come up with some issue for every bike and I think they just chose STA for the Troy.
  • 7 1
 @singelton: yeah must be a conspiracy. Or you might be a small simpleton.

Edit: I see you are size medium with the seatpost slammed so obviously you dont get it. I also see you have extended experience on the bike as you are advertising you are already selling at after 'only 3 weeks'. get the f*ck outta here
  • 3 0
 @mollow: You need to chill there, bud. A comment about a bikes STA shouldn't upset you to the point of childish name calling.
I rode the 2018 for a full season and if you read the ad you'd see why I'm selling my current bike.
  • 1 1
 @singelton: it was a word play with your username, sorry if I offended you. And even if you rode it before, doesn't change the fact that you are too short to understand what we're concerned about. Try again.
  • 28 10
 Devinci appear to be hell bent on designing some of the ugliest frames around. Hats off to them
  • 4 8
flag southoftheborder (Sep 26, 2020 at 6:04) (Below Threshold)
 I honestly believed they couldn't make the Troy uglier and boom! They throw up this new version...
  • 15 1
 @southoftheborder: and I think it's a nice looking bike. All personal preference.
  • 1 0
 The spartan and the newer Evils have a bit of commonality with top tube to seat tube junctions - it looks weird to me. Does weagle do their designs? Or just kinematics?
  • 2 1
 @shredddr: DW usually gives you the pivot points and link lengths, the design goes to a different professional. Roxy Lo is the best example of how a good industrial designer can accommodate the efficiency of the DW Link in a beautiful frame.
  • 2 0
 @Phazz470: beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
  • 7 2
 Agreed, I'm almost certain they fired their old bike designers, and hired the people behind the new Toyota corolla or new Honda civic.
  • 5 0
 I like it a lot. Much better than the previous model with the subliminal phallus on the seattube.
  • 3 0
 @me2menow: phallus... how politically correct of you, lol.
  • 10 1
 27.5 models please!
  • 3 0
 Devinci!!! Troy 2016 and Spartan 2018 owner here...I’m super excited about this bike; I am also pumped about your new reasonable pricing on GX builds and DEORE builds with quality suspension bits in the 4500 $CAN ball park. A Canadian Made aluminum bike with decent component under 4500$ is in the goldilock zone for a tonne of Canadian/ NA riders. Keep it up and you are getting my money next spring Wink I was gonna go with a sight A2 but Norco suddenly got a little greedy on the 2021 , charging 1000$ more...
  • 1 0
 Deore is $3100 and GX is $4100. I'm about to pull the trigger on a 2021 django or troy. Just waiting on the announcement for the troy and what the geo/build spec will look like between the two. Anyone have experience with the troy as a 3+ hour xc trail bike with occasional big tech days?
  • 2 0
 @Breeconay: I have a 2017 Django and a 2019 Troy. The Django is built up very light (sub 25lbs) and the Troy LTDis largely stock with a 1.5 degree headset angleset. While it takes a little adjustment switching, the troy is a surprisingly good trail bike. It's significantly heavier with burlier tires, but I still had it on a 10 day Quebec trip this year riding a very full spectrum collection of trails and while not quite as spritely as my Django, it felt just fine. They have somewhat similar antisquat and so similar get-up-and-go. If the 2021 Troy is lighter, I'd consider consolidating with 2 wheelsets.
  • 1 0
 @Sciero: I'm excited to find out tomorrow. Thanks for the input. They seem like they're similar weights and geos, just the travel is different so I have a tough choice whether I want to underbike for some trails with a django or overbike for some with the troy. Either way I'm sure that it will be a fantastic bike. Can't wait.
  • 6 0
 New Troy coming 9.30 per their website.
  • 5 1
 If you look on mtbr Devinci forums, there are clear pictures of the new Troy. And that appears to resemble the bike being ridden.
  • 1 5
flag kbakes (Sep 25, 2020 at 10:57) (Below Threshold)
 Shortcut http://https://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/devinci/1366065-2021-bikes-devinci-troy-carbon-alu-gx-12s-2021.jpg
  • 4 0
 @kbakes: link doesnt work for me....
  • 3 0
 @audric: he added one http:// too many
  • 4 1
 forums.mtbr.com/attachments/devinci/1366065-2021-bikes-devinci-troy-carbon-alu-gx-12s-2021.jpg

FIFY
  • 1 1
 @chriskneeland: frenchie brake setup????
  • 1 0
 @edfw: the higher the better!
  • 1 0
 @edfw: Straight outta the box
  • 4 0
 Pretty stoked on the new Troy. Previous gen was a looker, just had me between sized. Almost came close to pulling the trigger a couple times.
  • 3 0
 If the rear tire clearance is fixed it's the best bike . From a Troy 2020 rider.
  • 1 0
 new one clears a 2.6.
  • 3 0
 Thrilled beyond belief to see another bike release article. This is such an innovative design, like nothing else out there
  • 5 0
 Da Vinky?
  • 4 1
 I can’t imagine what your significant others look like if you don’t think the new Troy is dead sexy!
  • 4 0
 Looks like he got a rear flat.
  • 3 0
 Glad they got rid of the little "boner" that the shock mounted to. This looks much better ty the last version.
  • 3 0
 Looks like a scott comments incoming
  • 3 3
 Good job on the editor note, good explanation and gets that info out in front of the issue... Kinda ruins the fun though... I really enjoy following up, "full review tomorrow" with "long term review next Tuesday"... Hum...
  • 3 0
 love guy guys, but but the 'review tomorrow' disclaimer is hilarious
  • 3 0
 LOOKS like could do with some air in that rear tyre?
  • 2 0
 Yuussssss, now that's a bicycle! No instantly visible issues from my end. Even the chainstays are unparallel for chain slap.
  • 2 0
 craig evans just comes in at 4:02 like "just goin for a chill lap m8"
  • 2 0
 looks... umm, looks like a session
  • 1 0
 Haha i had the specs sheets of the troy with all the geometry but i cant find it anymore... Sorry hahaha
  • 2 0
 I would take the old one, new one has a puncture
  • 1 0
 Troy? Is curiously missing from the 2021 lineup on their website
  • 1 2
 Wow, when I see white rock I think "great", lots of grip. By watching that short video I see that is not the case. World is a dangerous place.
  • 2 1
 Meh, looks like a Spartan
  • 3 6
 Yo 1. It’s the Troy! Cmon your publishing a mtb website...common hobbiest like myself should not know more than you....
2. That practice video was week, should have warned me to get a beer first...turn it off half way through...
  • 1 0
 Love my Spartan 2015 Alloy in 27.5!
  • 2 0
 Rear tire looks flat
  • 1 1
 That's not the Troy frame that was just released. It could be a prototype but there are obvious differences.
  • 1 0
 This bike looks sick!







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