Spotted: Norco's Aluminum High Pivot, Long-Travel Something?

Sep 22, 2020
by Mike Levy  
There appears to be another long-travel Norco with a high main pivot about to be released, this one spotted on an Instagram post made by Norco Bicycles France yesterday at the Paris Expo (zoomed version below)

It's very different from the Aurum HSP, though, with a Horst Link suspension system rather than the downhill bike's high-single pivot layout and linkage to drive a low-slung shock. It also sure looks aluminum to me, and its Fox 38 fork and coil-sprung DHX2 make it obvious that it's no trail bike. Is this Norco's less pricey alternative to the carbon prototype that we saw earlier this summer? Or are we looking at the bike park version of the Aurum HSP?

Norco's 200mm-travel Aurum HSP downhill bike was released back in 2018 and uses a, you guessed it, high-single pivot suspension layout with a chain idler. Other brands have used similar designs previously, of course, and we've seen even more since, including yet another long-travel prototype that Norco definitely wasn't trying to hide.

When asked about the bike, Norco replied with the following: "Augment Legend: October 2020."

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180 Comments
  • 132 2
 It's so obvious they wanted to show off the new bike so why even try to "accidentally" take pictures with it in the background just show us a clean picture of it front row center...
  • 16 0
 "WINK WINK"
  • 95 1
 Straight for the goods eh @skierdud89 ... Where's the romance in that?
  • 9 0
 " Just gotta make sure I can get that high pivot in the view of the camera! "
  • 19 0
 Little foreplay from Norco.
  • 72 1
 Tomorrow: Norco's new long travel high pivot trail bike Vs. the Grim Donut
  • 13 0
 imagine the onslaught of comments about cable trimming/routing if they did....
  • 5 1
 To manufacture hype obviously
  • 7 5
 @jcklondon: Jam it in!!! No foreplay....
  • 3 0
 @curendero: Worse than the first guy! It's a good thing the frame probably has a water-bottle mount, that way you'll have a method to displace your apparent anxiety.
  • 1 0
 video+full review coming soon
ETA @shops - who knows! Blame Covid19
  • 1 1
 Those spy shots are soo hot and sleazy I can't wait to see the full sex videos.
  • 1 1
 @vjunior21: Yeah, and we'll be waiting a LONGTIME for it to arrive.
  • 1 1
 @jcklondon: My balls just dropped!!
  • 76 4
 Ok, so this looks like its in a retail shop. So why can't you just walk up to it and take a proper picture? Why all the "mystery"?
  • 62 1
 hype is a helluva drug.
  • 24 0
 @SlodownU because it's at a bike show (article), and Norco posted the picture.
  • 9 0
 Everyone knows the best hiding place is in plain sight Wink
  • 4 0
 @sarahallen: very true! I was at that bike show today, I saw the bike and thought that it looked really cool ! I also thought that I hadn’t seen it on pb or vital...but didn’t think much of it!
  • 6 0
 Maybe they tried to, they're just the worlds worst cameraman....
  • 7 3
 It's a paid advertisement.
  • 66 1
 It shore looks like a cool rig!
  • 50 1
 cough, "Shore", cough
  • 2 0
 I would put money that. Smart man
  • 5 0
 Or maybe truax?
  • 2 0
 Kavenz-norco-gt fury enduro melting pot
  • 3 16
flag mattmtns (Sep 22, 2020 at 11:43) (Below Threshold)
 New range, shore isnt a high pivot
  • 3 0
 @mattmtns: Guess again!
  • 4 0
 Those who know, know.
  • 2 0
 Would be pumped if they used that name again. The misso will be getting one. She doesn't know it yet haha
  • 1 0
 @nickyp132: if it's in stock they got it.
  • 54 32
 Long term review coming tomorrow.
  • 9 2
 See above Pinkbike P.S.A. tup
  • 18 0
 So eh, how were these camera angles chosen?

This bike looks like the start of something (or the mainstreaming of it).
  • 1 0
 I'm seriously liking this!!!!!
  • 10 1
 @hamncheez: thanks. Looks like Norco are about to launch the GT Fury with a 38. Very clever, no-one will notice.
  • 6 1
 I bet it's called the "Shore"....
  • 2 5
 My concern is the flex. On aluminum tubing, the main pivot is starting to get pretty far away from the bottom bracket junction, so the only thing to resist lateral flex is the torsion on the seat tube. The main pivot on the Forbidden Druid is high enough that its close to the top tube, and even more traditional designs like Niner added "ribs" to make sure there wasn't unwanted flex there.
  • 3 0
 Seems weird that one would need to sneak a photo at a bike expo. isnt the entire purpose of an expo for publications to take pics?
  • 9 0
 @hamncheez: the lower half of the seat tube appears to be about as large as the Downtube itself. I’d guess flex was probably taken into account but I’m no Pinkbike engineer so who knows?
  • 3 0
 @Mattysville: Hard to tell exactly, but in the spy shot from a few months ago it looks smaller than these newer pics. I guess Norco would hardly release a bike without extensive testing.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I think they are two different bikes altogether.
  • 2 0
 @cuban-b: nah, sometimes it's to do orders. I've seen more bikes at trade before online. The cannondale Jekyll current model is one of those.
  • 1 0
 @Mattysville: @mattmtns: there is a new range the black and red bike all over the internet but this is the shore but both are high pivot the shore has the option to run dual crown 200mm fork there is a few build kits on the shore all alloy one with dual crown forks for park use where as the others are aimed at freeride/perk with 180/180 setup the new range is only carbon and nothing is known about the range yet
  • 1 0
 @Julian-brennan: Whats the wheel size?
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: I'm not Shore what your getting at...
  • 15 0
 New Norco high pivot and that dude in the back is over there looking at shoes...
  • 10 1
 New Norco high pivot and they can't even get the brake lines sorted
  • 6 0
 @kramerica5000: And like where is that shifter cable headed?
  • 7 0
 @kramerica5000: that cabling job is absolutely amazing
  • 3 0
 @scvkurt03: wow, must be new law says u cannot cut them or make them look good.
  • 2 0
 @ackshen: Like an old man's eyebrow.
  • 13 2
 Norco is on a roll lately, so statistically speaking it's probably a brilliant bike. But what I don't get is this hush-hush attitude and the bs about how the bike just "accidentally" was in the back of that shot. Major annoyance when companies try to generate attention like that. If you have something new to show us, just do it. But please stop being purposefully secretive about stuff that was very obviously not accidentally leaked.
  • 3 0
 Especially when its got an embarrassing cable route hack job
  • 15 2
 It's the norco shore it's what Matt Mcduff will be riding No more aurum anymore. range is going to be a hsp design
  • 3 0
 He’s already riding it with black tape over the labeling on the down tube and head tube.
  • 3 2
 Range won’t be HSP.
  • 1 0
 @RobKong: Bryn Atkinson has been teasing something that's clearly carbon and high pivot on his instagram lately. Based on what folks are saying about the Shore being alloy only, I'd say it's pretty likely the new Range
  • 6 0
 I would think this is a 2021 Range or a hsp sight as a new bike is going to be released in decemberSmile xD
  • 8 1
 Almost certain this is a Shore. 27.5, 180/180, coil only. I'm guessing the Range is what the boys at CWX were riding, albeit with a dual crown.
  • 1 1
 @scvkurt03:

Thought it was the range at first too.

But the beyond the HSP and long travel similarities, this bike looks wildly different (mostly shock location/orientation).

So its looking like this one is likely the Shore now that I think about it.
  • 2 0
 @scvkurt03: the bikes at cwx where the range the shore appaperntly is a mullet setup with some full 27,5 builds as far as i know there is a new range the black and red bike all over the internet but this is the shore but both are high pivot the shore has the option to run dual crown 200mm fork there is a few build kits on the shore all alloy one with dual crown forks for park use where as the others are aimed at freeride/perk with 180/180 setup the new range is only carbon and nothing is known about the range yet
  • 3 0
 @Julian-brennan: Bro, throw in a period once in a while.
  • 1 0
 @Julian-brennan: I think that would be great thanks
  • 1 0
 @scvkurt03: The bikes at the CWX for the enduro were Norco 2020 sights.
  • 1 0
 @colxfreeman:

Most of them were, yes. But the one that won the Psychosis downhill event during CWX was not a Sight though. Most believe it was the new Range.

My comment above was stating that the frame seen at CWX that won the Psychosis DH event, is not the shore shown above.

This one.
www.pinkbike.com/news/spotted-is-this-a-new-norco-dh-bike.html

And the is under wraps on the podium, but it sure looks the same as the one in the link above.
www.pinkbike.com/news/results-psychosis-dh-crankworx-summer-series.html
  • 1 0
 @colxfreeman: yeah, what logan said... I was referring to the blurry black one that got some PB press as a long travel bike (not necessarily billed as DH). I own a Sight, so I’m well aware they were raced there, primarily.
  • 1 0
 @ocnlogan: the one eliot was riding? that was a dh bike i think. unreleased
  • 1 0
 @colxfreeman:

The one Henry Fitzgerald won the event on.

You can see how the photo here looks wildly different than the bike this article was about (which turns out to have been the Norco Shore, as per its release today). When I say wildly different, I mostly mean the shock orientation/location.

ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb19175748/p5pb19175748.jpg

The first link I posted above, thought it was a DH bike at first, but it seems like most people are now thinking its most likely the new Norco Range. I'll be very interested to see if the new Range supports the dual crown option like the Shore does.

Could still be an unreleased DH bike though.
  • 6 0
 Finally the freeride comeback i have been waiting for ^^ but this time with good suspension and pedalable
  • 1 0
 October for the nukeproof's version of a FR bike as well(or so I've heard)
  • 1 0
 @SimbaandHiggins: that looks dope.
  • 1 0
 @BrigadierBuege: Nukecruz
  • 1 0
 @BrigadierBuege: it reminds me a lot of their Dissent DH-bike. Maybe it's a long travel freeride/bike park bike?
  • 1 1
 @SimbaandHiggins: yeap...it appears that the name is Giga Smile ))))) (bigger than Mega); yeah and it seem to be based on the dissent susp. platform.
  • 1 0
 @SimbaandHiggins: saracen ariel huh
  • 3 0
 Curious to see what they do with the geo, as the Sight is pretty aggressive/modern for an "All Mountain" bike. Wondering how much farther they'll push it for this "Enduro race/Freeride" vibe that we're getting from this one.

Please make an AL Frame only option Smile .
  • 7 0
 surprise, the grim donut is actually the new norco range
  • 1 0
 the builds fot the shore is alloy only but the range is carbon only
  • 2 0
 they will...I would expect it to be around 2K USD based on price in CZK. www.mojekolo.cz/norco-shore-a-frame-silver-silver-27-5-l
  • 8 2
 Sometimes I wish my dh bike had a water bottle mount.
  • 38 1
 I'm hoping my new water bottle mount arrives with a DH bike attached...
  • 5 1
 I see so many lost bottle from those bad mount along the trails at my bike park from the enduro/all mountain that I dont wish I had one on my dh I hydrate at the bottom of the hill.
  • 4 3
 I would genuinely be happy with a decent bottle mounting point on a long travel bike. I don't have the luxury of riding in a park with water available at the lifts. I also hate carrying water on my hip or back. It's too uncomfortable in the heat for me.
  • 1 1
 @Afterschoolsports: leave a bottle at the bottom by the chairlift, each time you do a lap you have water at the bottom waiting for you.
  • 3 1
 This worked for me pretty well. Dont bother with water fountains during covid.
www.jensonusa.com/Twofish-Quick-Cage-Adapter
  • 3 2
 @ybsurf: He just said "I don't have the luxury of riding in a park".

@Afterschoolsports: I am the same way. But my 170mm bike does have a good mount.
  • 2 0
 @JSTootell: keep reading buddy he said he dont have the luxury to ride park with water at the bottom of lift. That's why I said leave your bottle at the bottom of the chair.
  • 2 0
 @JSTootell: You've got it. What are you riding? Scott Ransom is looking tasty for me.

@ybsurf: I don't have the luxury of riding in a park. Which means no lifts or rest areas. Which means fire road or transit trails back to the top.

A bottle cage is most certainly a welcome feature.
  • 1 0
 @ybsurf: Gotta get a better cage
  • 1 1
 @Afterschoolsports: I am on a couple year old E29. So not very helpful.

@ybsurf: Keep reading buddy lol
  • 5 0
 PB, take a poll:

What technology do you want to demo most?

I want to try a high pivot bike.
  • 2 0
 the current Aurum HSP is the best bike I've ever owned. It's like it has the "GoPro Effect" built in, the steeper the trail the better it feels. it eats every rock and root but its still super playful and poppy so you can just double over them if you want too.
  • 4 0
 This appears to be the sandy area of a beach before the water meets the sand
  • 6 0
 feel bad for kavenz
  • 1 2
 Maybe they patented the(their) design and still have a chance to make some money. If norco launches their, basically, identical bike before them(and they will), kavenz are f-ed!
  • 2 0
 @eugenux: That is not how patent law works. Kavenz couldn't have acquired patent protection on that design in the first place.
  • 2 0
 @BenTheSwabian:
Not really familiar as these type of problems have bean dealt with by our legal departmen, while I was mostly involved in trademarking the brands names.
I know that the suspension design, specifically, that susp. design cannot be patented but I thought that 'maybe', of the frame design was sufficiently different from others, maybe they could have done it. Anyway, at least, they have the custom geo on their side. Hopefully, it will be enough.
  • 2 0
 @eugenux: Right, it's quite a specific topic after all. Probably wouldn't know about it if I hadn't studied it. Anyways, for being eligible for patent protection under german civil law, an invention must supersede the current, regular "state of the art", as would be judged by a professional, with experience in the respective industry. A significant difference and unequivocal superiority are key indicators - just changing or adapting pre-existing systems isn't sufficient. Therefor I'm fairly certain that a suspension design that has been used by other companies for 20-odd years doesn't fit that criteria. Pretty much the same goes for the frame itself. But you're right, at least they offer customizable geo.
  • 3 0
 @mikelevy are you going to do a spotted article on the new Santa Cruz nomad tomorrow? Or have you been told no no please don't do that????????????‍♂️????‍♂️
  • 1 0
 I "SHORE" wonder how this bike will stack up with Norco's "RANGE" of current bikes. They have crushed it recently with their vision and "SIGHT" and new geo.... but I digress. It's the "SHORE" it has not been a secret!!! Everyone knows its coming but when?????????
  • 4 0
 looks like high pivot w/ horst link on the chainstay. best of both worlds.
  • 4 4
 A bit like a gt fury.
  • 5 0
 @Afterschoolsports: that super small outfit in germany also doing this design. Kavenz i believe is the name.
  • 2 0
 @cuban-b: I'd not heard of them until you mentioned them. They look pretty sweet.
  • 1 0
 awesome! rear-ward tracking horst link will devour rough trails, just need to make the stroke super progressive. Wonder how the idler system holds up to long brutal climbs...
  • 1 0
 i guess you'd need 2 bearings next to each other for the idler so it can hold up to anything
  • 2 0
 There is a need for a bike in between the Range and Aurum. Basically fills the same niche as the Slayer does for Rocky Mountain.
  • 3 0
 lets see a head too head of this and Forbidden’s new longer travel high pivot! unleash the bikes!
  • 3 0
 Looks like a ghost 9000 from 2013
images.app.goo.gl/K1tAntEoVSco9uC97
  • 1 0
 Any bike shop that uses LTP in Canada knows what this is. What I don't get is why they haven't published the geo or the pricing in the catalog along with the specs. I want to know if it has a 57 degree HT angle lol
  • 2 0
 I’ve never wanted a bike I know nothing about more, you had my at high pivot
  • 1 0
 I'd love to buy a norco optic but you literally can't get norco's in the uk. they'd be popular for sure if they actually allowed you to buy one.
  • 3 0
 Evans Cycles sell Norco. Just checked and there are 12 2020 MTBs currently listed, mainly Sights. I bought an ex Demo Fluid off them last year and love it for my local flat trails! I suspect the Optic is very popular due to the great reviews it has had so tricky to get hold of them.
  • 3 0
 It's obviously the new Norco Range
  • 1 0
 @mattmtns: there is a new range the black and red bike all over the internet but this is the shore but both are high pivot the shore has the option to run dual crown 200mm fork there is a few build kits on the shore all alloy one with dual crown forks for park use where as the others are aimed at freeride/perk with 180/180 setup the new range is only carbon and nothing is known about the range yet
  • 1 0
 @Julian-brennan: Can you ride it in the trailer perk too?
  • 2 0
 New bike out and what is the most important tech-detail shot? A close-up of the bottle-cage-holder!! Well played, eh?!?!?
  • 3 0
 Shorely you can't be serious!?
  • 2 0
 It's a range. 170 front 160 rear. 29er only. Longer. Lower. Slacker. Steeper seat tube angle and a high pivot...wooo
  • 1 0
 Bikepark version of the hsp aurum? Get outta here, its obv an aggressive enduro race bike that implements the high pivot design.
  • 1 0
 That looks like a 275 rear wheel. If this bike is a mullet it's my dream bike! Very similar to the Kavenz VHP16. I love it already.
  • 1 0
 I saw this in the creekside gondola line (line meaning two people) on Sunday, it was strange to see norco on the side of it.
  • 2 0
 well whatever it is, thats my next ride !
  • 2 0
 Why not buy it and write all the articles you want?
  • 1 0
 Because you'll get paid to review it tomorrow. Just be patient!
  • 2 0
 Some sort of enduro-fr bike like Slayer?
  • 1 0
 So that dual crown hsp 'spotted' a couple of months ago is another different Norco?
  • 1 0
 İ wanted a range for a long time but geometry kept me away, if the price is good i will smash my wallet to this bike
  • 3 0
 Enhance!
  • 3 0
 New range.
  • 2 1
 Must be really hard to google norco shore 2021... www.mojekolo.cz/norco-shore-a-frame-silver-silver-27-5-l
  • 1 0
 I think the colors are going to be really 'RAD'!
  • 1 0
 That there is the new hsp range.
  • 1 0
 new norco shore?
I really wondering about the nasty picture quality...
  • 1 0
 Really awesome to see more trail/enduro bikes with high pivots
  • 3 1
 Sightduro !
  • 2 0
 Sight HP?
  • 2 1
 @mammal: RangeDuro
  • 1 1
 @xetal: Shoreduro
  • 2 0
 Kavenzco
  • 2 1
 Post has been deleted...interesting
  • 1 1
 Have seen this rig being tested on the north shore, looking forward to release to see the final numbers.
  • 1 2
 So... it's a competitor with the Deviate Highlander. Sounds good to me...the Highlander is more sexy though, but this Norco will certainly be less expensive and heavier.
  • 1 0
 It looks like it has set up for 2 bottlecages... i would buy in an instant
  • 1 0
 2021 optics are on their site. More build choices!
  • 1 0
 To panzy too show pictures of the rear end
  • 1 0
 Nice cable routing. Going for the bird nest look
  • 1 0
 Paris expo is big, any article from Pinkbike?
  • 1 0
 Photos taken with iPhone potato plus
  • 1 0
 Is HI-pivot the new 27.5?
  • 1 1
 Nice to see another alu bike, norco doing it right!
  • 1 0
 Range hsp—Shore hsp
  • 1 2
 Its not really a true high pivot though is it
  • 8 0
 Looks pretty high to me... It's not an HSP, but it's definitely an HP.
  • 1 0
 Higher than "normal" but it doesn't look quite high enough to have a fully rearward axle path
  • 2 2
 @boozed: Nothing has a fully rearward axle path. The pivot would need to be directly above the axle for that to happen. "High Pivot" is a relative term, and this is much "higher" than a traditional horst link layout.
  • 5 0
 @mammal: That's not necessary at all. A fully rearward axle path simply means that the axle moves backwards relative to the front triangle, for the full range of suspension travel, within the reference frame of the front triangle (i.e. the front triangle is assumed to be fixed in space). This motion depends mostly on the vertical location of the pivot, while the height of the pivot relative to the BB required to achieve it depends on the suspension travel. Simplistically, if the line drawn between the rear axle and the pivot reaches horizontal only at (or after) full travel is reached, then it's a fully rearward axle path. You will see this in the axle path graph in any high pivot bike review that goes into that kind of detail. Conversely, for bikes with a "traditional" pivot location you'll see the axle path curve begin by moving backwards (because the pivot is slightly above the BB axis) and then quickly turn around and move forwards.

The effective pivot location on the Norco photographed above looks like it might be lower than on those HSP bikes that have fully rearward axle path.
  • 1 0
 @boozed: sorry, I misunderstood what you meant by fully rearward. I understand what you're getting at, and it will be interesting to see a graph for this setup... Eventually.
  • 2 2
 #canfielddiditfirst
  • 1 1
 Damn Straight!
  • 1 3
 It's a shore and they're God damn hideous when you see the bike without it being covered by another bike.
  • 1 4
 Norcos take on the Grim donut?
  • 2 2
 or their take on a forbidden
  • 3 0
 Grim donut is an experiment in geometry. This norco is an experiment in suspension kinematics.
  • 3 0
 @adrennan: did you learn about norco yesterday? They've had a high pivot for 2 years...
  • 1 0
 @Bikerdude137: yup!

on their dh bike. not on a trail bike like forbidden did.
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: @adrennan: the guy who started Forbidden used to be an engineer for Norco, so it makes sense they would have similar design influences.
  • 2 0
 @adrennan: i believe his name is Owen Pemberton?
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