Spotted: Ohlins RXF 38 Fork

Jun 5, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  

Ohlins have just released an updated version of their DH38 double crown fork but it looks like that's not the only 38mm stanchion fork they've had in the works as we've just spotted this single crown RXF 38 specced on a new limited edition eMTB.

The Thok TK01 LTD bike is limited to 35 units, painted and assembled in Italy and customized with the name of the owner. It's supposed to show off the very best of the brand and is kitted out with a very high end spec - the price is listed as €0 so we're guessing it's one of those 'if you have to ask, you can't afford it' type situations. The thing that stood out to us though, was the new fork in the spec list, one we hadn't seen before.


The RXF 38 looks very similar in design to the RXF 36, and it likely uses the same TTX18 twin-piston design damper as the RXF 36 - that's almost confirmed by seeing it also has the same ramp-up valve on the right fork leg.

On this bike, the fork houses a 29" wheel, has 180mm of travel and, interestingly, a 1.8" steerer tube. This was a standard we first spotted at Eurobike last year as SR Suntour had it on their stand fitted to a Bulls ebike. Rather than the common 1.5" tapered steerer that everyone uses, this fork had a 1.8" steerer that tapered down to 1.125" at the top where your stem clamps, and it looks like this new Ohlins fork is the same.


At the time, we spoke to RockShox and Suntour and they both said that the fork would be OE only for the time being, and while there are probably some improvements in rigidity, the 'Supertaper' standard was mainly aesthetic, allowing the bottom of the head tube to better match bulbous downtubes created by integrating batteries into ebikes.

Ohlins said: "This will be an OEM product only via a number of top MTB brands and will be launched August this year via the release of new 2020 bike models. There are plans to make an aftermarket version in the Q1 of 2021. Also - The fork is not 1.8 tapered but the standard 1.5."


156 Comments

  • 379 6
 No. Take your 1.8" steer tube BS and get TF out. I refuse.
  • 77 1
 with 17mm thru axle
  • 49 3
 @weezyb:
And 114.999998mm axle length.
  • 42 49
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 5, 2020 at 9:54) (Below Threshold)
 Will fit every frame with 56 lower cup insert. You’ll just need a new lower race with external cup. With a bit of luck may even work with 49mm. Very cheap way out from a new standard. Try that with retarded boost or even dumber 27.5”. But it’s still a lost opportunity. Should have gone 2” directly. No point in increasing stanchions from 36 to 38 and keep 1.125-1.5 steerer only to flex and creek even more since something’s gotta give. I guess we’re all tired of Fox issues in that area. I vote for 1.125”-2” steerers.
  • 14 2
 It’s better than 38mm stanchions... watch this: youtu.be/lS-VzI2JbrI
  • 17 2
 @WAKIdesigns:

WakI: Should have gone 2” directly

Ohlins: We planned to roll that out in 2022 to make the 1.8" obsolete. #newstandardevery2years #bicycles.

LOL
  • 8 20
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 5, 2020 at 10:39) (Below Threshold)
 @vjunior21: Maybe ZED will save the day. 2”= 50.8mm. Quite a few carbon frames have 56mm insert for lower cup (like mine mohaha). That leaves 5mm for walls of outboard headset cup and some tolerance, maybe 2mm thick walls of the cup. Let’s say the call it 2” but make it 49mm. All the win and no need to change the frame... cost of the lower headset is easy to swallow
  • 42 14
 Its on an E-Bike. I stopped reading when I saw that
  • 9 3
 @WAKIdesigns:
But how do I fit the new fork onto my 1996 Klein Mantra? Is the fork compatible with my softride suspension stem? LOL

www.pinkbike.com/news/1996-klein-mantra-pro-now-that-was-a-bike.html
  • 8 0
 I vote we put a 4" steerer, no wait make that metric 100mm steerer, on the outside of the head tube. Replaces the knock block too. Screw it - let's get rid of steering altogether. No bearings, no creaking, and straight lines are faster anyway.
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: haha ???? you're the best
  • 5 1
 @seraph I couldn't agree more.

Give me a dual crown 1 1/8" any day over a single crown with a bigger steerer.
  • 2 3
 @Three6ty: Well more power to you. Though if you care enough to comment, this will probably be what you "need" on your non-e-bike in 2 years.
  • 1 0
 I could not be more pleased that this is top comment.
  • 2 8
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 5, 2020 at 14:06) (Below Threshold)
 @fartymarty: I thought this way. Then I checked the prices and I am not exactly sure why should I pay 500£ more for 1lbs more when I can have... a fatter steerer. I know, I know... metal bikes won’t take this increase. But why would some metal frame owner need to buy a single crown fork other than... intend?
  • 1 0
 @islandforlife: It also has 38 mm stanchions, though...
  • 5 0
 I don't think we should go all the way to 2". 50mm would be better, since we've recently been jumping from imperial to metric on more and more components. The headtube is already metric on the inside. Is the steerer tube the last bastion of the imperial system on a mountain bike? I think there is one other remaining... but what is it?
  • 3 0
 Oh I forgot about 9/16" pedal spindles. So there are two others apart from steerer tubes.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: tires and rims?
  • 1 0
 What if Fox does not want to eliminate all Flex?
Maybe they think some Flex is needed in the Fork to get a good ride feeling. But if the Stanchion and Lowers flex to each other, they cant move freely into each other, which ends in poor suspension performance. Since they want good suspension performance the only part for flex is the head tube.

But i still think they should change something that the Forks dont allways start to be noisy after only a few rides.
  • 1 1
 @Cspringsrider: I was thinking 22.2mm handlebars. Tyres and rims are already measured in mm according to ETRTO, but yes I wonder what the 559/584/622 translate to in inches. And what does “700c” actually mean?
  • 1 0
 @PAmtbiker: which makes sense if you beef up the csu interface.
  • 3 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Boxxer 2565g, Fox 38 (tapered) 2180g. Difference = 385g - I'm sure the bigger HT, headset and 1.8" steered are going to take a big chunk out of this difference. If cost was no object I would take a Boxxer.m which is a 200mm fork cf a 180mm fork. The smart play by RS would be to release a 180mm Enduro Boxxer to compete with the 38.
  • 2 1
 @jaame: seat post sizes are still imperial
  • 2 0
 @jaame: 559mm=22in 584mm=23in 622mm=24.5in
So there are no 26in, 27.5in nor 29in wheels.
I believe 700c means 700mm overall diameter of wheel with rim and tire of a certain size (probably ~2in) and the c is for a certain range of inner rim width.
  • 2 0
 @fartymarty: You can get a 180mm Boxxer already.
  • 3 0
 @mark3: bloody hell. The more I think about it, the more there are! What the heck is 30.9mm in inches? 1 1/16 or something?

Legacy measurements run deep, I’ll lay to that.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: I meant the width of the tire lol sorry for not being specific
  • 2 0
 Oh right. I never look at those to be honest, I look at the etrto size in millimetres because the widths in inches vary from manufacturer to manufacturer.
  • 1 0
 @Three6ty: Yep. Starting watching the video, and saw the Wanna Be motorcycle and stopped.
  • 1 0
 Vorsprung mentioned about Fox should do increase from 1.5inch instead if ovalized the tube in their Fox 38 breakdown video last month.
  • 64 7
 Get the fuck out of here. First boost. Then dub. Now 1.8 in tapered steerer. Ive never met someone that snapped a steerer tube in half. This is not needed at all.
  • 23 4
 I don't know man, I have trashed at least one CSU per year for the last 5 years with lengthy warranty /replacement costing me tons of riding time. Not sure 1.8" is the way to go though. Maybe we should just accept double crown forks as the new standard in enduro/freeride?
  • 31 2
 But it’s 28.99% stiffer for those times when you’re riding a blue trail with underpressured tires, too much suspension sag, 35mm carbon bars that are vertically compliant yet horizontally stiff and you’re laying down 186 watts.
  • 27 3
 @chris6-6-6: ^^^ always the one guy that says "I trash 3 xyzs every year." LOL. Whether it be forks, tires, frames, rims, bars....You ARE the man!
  • 4 0
 @Paddock22: don't forget warranty does not apply if you wear anything other than 510s
  • 9 15
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 5, 2020 at 10:32) (Below Threshold)
 Erm... XC forks have same tapered steerers as 180mm forks ridden in same stuff as 200mm double crown forks. It’s not aonly about steerer diameter, wall thickness matters too, as well as depth of insertion into the crown yes, but there’s limited capacity for 1,5” interface and one can see it clearly in PB huck to flat vodeos. So Erm... sorry, I know that downcountry is still fashionable today and trail is slowly winning over but those foolish overbiked people with no skills would really benefit from improved steerer/crown interface. The only silly thing here is that they didn’t go full 2”. I hope Rockshox will.
  • 13 0
 It’s not about snapping. The joint between your steerer and crown is weak and that’s where all the flex comes from using a bigger steerer tube helps but won’t really do much. Light weight duel crowns are the answer.
  • 2 0
 @thenotoriousmic: oooor you could make it to tighter tolerance, learn technique to fit it properly and then put plug from the bottom so steerer tube itself cannot flex. But yes creating new standard is better as always when your sales are getting lower then needed.
  • 6 10
flag MTBLegend92 (Jun 5, 2020 at 10:58) (Below Threshold)
 @thenotoriousmic: Lightweight dual crowns are a terrible idea, Boxxers are already wet noodles and nobody wants limited steering if they can avoid it. What's needed is a fundamentally different way to attach the steerer to the crown other than pressfit.
  • 2 12
flag WAKIdesigns (Jun 5, 2020 at 11:00) (Below Threshold)
 @Mondbiker: I’m sorry but I have low tolerance for petty precision. My father was like that, some people I work with are like that. Doesn’t make anyone happy. Causes tons of trouble. Handling Human error and imperfections Is not a matter of lazyness or complacency. It is a matter of having experience.
  • 5 1
 @MTBLegend92: Damn you must smoke smoke this fella Pierron you legend.
  • 6 0
 @Mondbiker: you’re just going to end up with a massive steerer tube with a huge over built crown that still won’t be as stiff or as light as a duel crown. I struggle to see how you couldn’t build a lightweight boxer / 40 or a duel crown lyrik / 36 that comes in lighter and stiffer than a 38.
  • 5 1
 @MTBLegend92: You’ve clearly never ridden a duel crown have you?
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: I was talking about existing 1.5 standard, that it can be easily made better. I´m working on my light-ish weight DC fork though...
  • 5 4
 @Mondbiker: What's your point, that because I'm not as fast as him I can't break inferior equipment? Amaury Pierron is 6 inches shorter than me and 40-50lbs lighter than me. I imagine for you I could at least double both those numbers, because you sound like a child.
  • 2 1
 @MTBLegend92: Good example of a useless lightweight dual crown is the domain...
  • 7 4
 @MTBLegend92: Well feck me running, ever heard of this Kyle Strait chap? He rides this thing called RB Rampage on this "wet noodle" and seems to be doing fairly well you legend, I guess you have 40-50lbs on him also lol. Maybe you should ease up on the donuts?
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: I’m not expert but you’d need a lot more crown / steerer overlap and I think tyre clearance is the current limiting factor.
  • 2 0
 @thenotoriousmic: on some forks insertion depth is good enough as it is now, for some reason certin companies just don´t want to think too much about what they do with it. Look up Vorsprung vid on 38, it´s ridiculous when they produce omg so ground braking oval steerer tube only to press it in crooked lol. When you can achieve better result for less money and maybe even improve quality of the joint. Example of good engineering vs marketing BS www.intend-bc.com/products/fork-tuning/stiffler
  • 6 0
 @Monster-G: I think you’re getting confused. The domain was the old boxxer RC with steel stantions. It was super heavy even back then. The steel stantions though were super slippery and noticeably more supple than the boxer rc with its alu stantions. So hardly useless.
  • 3 2
 @Mondbiker: What's it like being dumb enough to believe a sponsored athlete would publicly complain about the product he's being paid lots of money to use?
  • 4 2
 @MTBLegend92: What´s it like spewing ridiculously dumb shit on the internet?
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: im Not dure but i think Dual crowns have a straight 1” steerer so I genuinely think there’s more to this whole stiffness story. Clearly the dual crowns are stiffer because they have more surface area that gets clamped. Also when did some flex become a bad thing? Why do we want our bars to flex, our wheels to flex, our chainstays to flex, our grips to flex, but nooo the fork can’t flex one mm or you’ll instantly be unable to ride.
  • 3 0
 @philmtb99: it´s more about where and in what direction they flex. And what that flex results in.
  • 1 0
 @MTBLegend92: 20 years ago I met 2 Yankees in Chamonix like you very tall and fit and we had a blast on our thecnical terrain.. They were official tester for Shimano. Because they were talented and heavy.
  • 2 1
 @philmtb99: 1 1/8th straight steer tubes or tapered not 1"
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: those weren't the only choices and I happen to have a domain sitting in the corner. The weight doesn't change, the landing isn't always so supple. I tend to think the constant is the issue that cannot be controlled by my riding. I can however change the fork... So in my case I have a useless Domain sitting in a box. Sorry diff of opinion. Give me an 888 any day.
  • 1 0
 it is in fact. the steerer is far more flexy than the whole chassi of a 36 or a 38 mm fork.
  • 1 0
 What is the weight of a 38 in comparison to the lightest Boxxer anyway?
  • 3 1
 @MTBLegend92: I TRUST that a linkage fork would be the answer.
  • 1 0
 @chris6-6-6: If still going single crown, it's better to go further on the actual integration between steerer and crown. This offcourse gets in thee way of the axle to crown distance. Another good point in favor of 35mm stanchions double crown fork.
  • 1 0
 @philmtb99: it’s not a nice feeling riding hitting stuff on steep terrain and feeling your fork flex under you, it’s honeswhat I miss most from my ex downhill bikes. I had a 380 that had a tapered headtube btw.
  • 3 0
 Single crown forks are flexy as shit and it largely comes down to the tiny steerer tube. Your options to improve are to beef up the steerer and CSU, or go dual crown
  • 2 0
 @Mondbiker: Actually on the contrary, you need market share first before you release a new standard. Reality is, from an engineering standpoint, its a good idea. Like it or not, this was inevitable. People complained when they introduced the first tapered steer tube. Eventually everybody will get over it, and complain about the next standard. It probably happened with disc brakes too. "What? New standard?!?!? My cantilever brakes work just fine thank you!!!". Does anybody make those anymore? Product innovation is just the inevitability. Its really just a visciois cycle. Products get better, people find the limits, products evolve to adapt, and people find the limits again... this just keeps going.
  • 1 0
 @jomacba: Yes, people still make cantilever brakes, both real and V.
  • 1 0
 @jomacba: the good part about this as someone pointed out above is that a 56mm head tube will take a 1.8 fork with an external cup.
  • 2 1
 @werics: It was somewhat of a rhetorical question. The point was they are essentially obsolete, and I doubt anybody would even consider them over a proper hydraulic disc brake.
What I'm getting at, is there is constant updated, changes, and new standards. People continue to get bent out of shape (Which is futile) and eventually we all just accept it, just to get bent out of shape on the next one. I'm sure 1.5-1-1/8 steer tubes aren't going anywhere, just as strait 1-1/8 aren't either, but nobody can deny that this is a logical fix to remedy a weak point in the structure of a single crown fork.
Not only would it allow the fork to become undeniably lighter and stiffer, especially compared to a dual crown fork, it would open up options to further refine the CSU. People are so quick to point out the flaws in products (especially suspention) that they fail to step back and really see how incredible suspention really is. In fact, maybe just over 5 years ago, you could almost consider suspention to be archaic.
Take into consideration that we are just now scratching the surface of what's possible.
  • 3 0
 @jomacba: True suspension is getting better all the time, however its taking a Fing long time motorcycles have had super suspension for over 20years and cost less than a decked out Enduro bicycle.

We had to endure elastomers, cartridges, and silly shit that did not work and a real design engineer would laugh at.

I know sometimes progress is slow, but there is no excuse for a shitty design that has to be modded out of the box to work properly, If a tiny company can figure out what is wrong with a fork and make a part to correct it, what does that say for the company. And I am not talking race level performance just plain work.
  • 2 0
 @jaame: yes, and with ec56 and deeper crown insertion you end up with messed up geometry (typically +10mm for cup and ca 5mm for crown) or less travel than before. With DC fork you can have more travel with same geometry and/or you can actually adjust the geometry as you please, free of charge in 5minutes and most importantly you have much stronger fork that doesn´t rely on single crown/steerer junction that more often than not isn ´t designed/manufactured well enough. Weight penalty is non existent when you compare boxxer to 29er 38 fork, 29 boxxer weight some 150g more ,lyrik lowers with axle are roughly 150g lighter than boxxers so it would literally be the same weight if the lowers were interchangable. shorter travel DC fork designed from scratch could also use shorter damper/ air spring so another few grams to save there. And then there is another topic of stiffer stem interface that is always mounted straight...
  • 2 0
 @lake-st: you are absolutely right, the issue is people are still willing to pay silly money to buy product that is designed to be obsolete by next year. How long did fox ignore complaints about creaking crowns till they (supposedly) fixed the issue? What about damper tunes that are more often than not wrong for the application? Why most tuners can get this shit right and multi million dollars corporations f*ck this up and people still gladly handle them their money? Kashima effect? Is it really that simple?
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: yes. The D.C. approach is well worth the development. I thought the boxxer and Lyrik lowers were the same to be honest. Armed with this information, I think RS should definitely make a D.C. enduro fork to replace the Lyrik.
  • 2 0
 @Mondbiker: exactly what I’ve been saying. Also taking into account how little direct mount stems weigh and reduced steerer length. I struggle to see how you couldn’t make a duel crown lyric / 36 as light as a 38.
  • 1 0
 @kleinblake: Agree that single crowns are flexy as shit, especially for an e bike. Even my Boxxer feels a little flexy on my 50 pound e bike. it's an improvement over single crown but I hate the restricted turning radius. If I were designing it I would do a tapered 1.5 to 1.8 streeter tube for single crowns. Would love to see somebody make a 190 mm single crown fork for e bikes.

The complaints about new standards for e bikes are understandable because it is an inconvenience. But the fact of the matter is that e bikes need new standards because they are heavier and put more stress on some parts. And many of the e bike options are great for big guys or people who want to make their bike stronger.
  • 2 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: how much do you weight dude
  • 2 0
 @Uchwmdr: I have a buddy whose only way into mt biking was ebike. He was a solid 350 when he got his e bike. So understandably ebike manufactures need to consider heavier riders. Btw I think he is riding 4 to 5 times a week and down 50 pounds since November. So that is the perfect use for an ebike. He is now considering a regular pedal bike for his next purchase.
  • 1 0
 @fabwizard: at this weight it is explainable why he finds single crown forks flexy
  • 1 0
 @Uchwmdr: 160kg is probably double what most bikes are expected to carry! Wow!
  • 1 0
 @thenotoriousmic: the stems are not that light, there is plenty conventional stems out there that are lighter than 99% of DM stems but they flex the steerer tube with modern wide handlebars, especially if one is running a lot of stem spacers. I think they could leave lyrik in the lineup with travels up to lets say 150mm for 29 and 170 for 27.5, above that there could be DC fork.
  • 1 0
 @jaame: sadly they aren´t same, I don´t know if they did it purposely or just a result of trying to improve steering radius on new boxxer... Still, it would be pretty cheap for them to make different crowns with lyrik stanchion spacing.
  • 1 0
 @lake-st: motorcycles also have been developed since the 20s. and don't have to worry about weight until the past 5 years when KTM made everything out of plastic.
  • 2 0
 @lake-st: I can't disagree with your statement, but I can add point of view. First of all we need to recognize that the dynamics of mountain bike suspention is much more complicated than that of motorsport. I say this because you have a constant significant variable that you cannot calculate for at point of engineering and manufacturing. That is of course, rider weight, style, and ability. A 160lb elite downhill racer will not create the same forces or loads that an intermediate rider would at the same weight. Now create varying weights, and you have a huge differential. Let's now include the bike, an XL frame on a 6' rider (Assuming an XL would be the same across all manufacturers, which its not) would have a much differant effect on suspention than if thatbrider was on a L or even a M frame. Reach, HA, CS length, and suspention kinematics all have a profound impact on weight transfer, and how thebrider would need to manipulate the bike. Now, I'm not saying motorsport does not have these variables, but you have to consider that the vehicle itself makes up a much larger percentile of mass. Now consider that off road vs on road had drastically differant dynamics as well.


Secondly, you need to think about financial return. Every manufacturer (especially major players) have shareholders that expect a return on their investment. Corporate company's divy out budgets for each department for. One of those departments are design and engineering. One flaw could be the result of lack of budget.

Third, one major thing to consider is company perspective. Just as people have pointed out their dislike for the new fox 38 due to the csu design with the elliptical steer tube; That was ultimately fox's answer to an issue they had experienced without introducing a new standard. While maybe not without flaws, you can see the company is moving forward in identifying development challenges, and applying new techniques to remedy such challenges.

As we proceed through the eras of product evolvment, we will also see more and more challenges arise. As each challenge comes our way, there will be remedys to mitigate such challenges.
While this is no excuse for poor craftsmanship, or faulty products; It does however shine light on why and how flaws come to light. Especially when your manufacturing products in high volume in a semi controlled environment.

Once again, there needs to be a target price for the end consumer, and overhead such as development costs, manufacturing, marketing, logistics, profit, and retail costs all have to fall within the MSRP.
I'm sure if you had unlimited funding, you could eliminate every and all issues, but nobody does and nobody will.
  • 1 0
 @DoubleCrownAddict: The Boxxer has a restricted turning radius because most of the offset is in the lowers rather than the crown. If this was switched around it would become less of a problem. My Dorado has more than enough clearance to handle tight uphill switchbacks.
  • 2 0
 @SintraFreeride: flip whips won’t be an option but I’ve never had an issue with the turning circle on a boxxer or any other duel crown fork.
  • 1 0
 @jomacba: i love the 38 and absolutely aim to own one!!!
  • 1 1
 @thenotoriousmic: The old boxxer wasn't great on slow tight switchbacks, haven't tried the new one.
  • 25 0
 Thok off with that 1.8"
  • 1 0
 I question the need for this too, but wasn’t that also the response to the “new” 1.5” tapered steerer when it came out?
  • 1 0
 @DrPete: Yes... yes it was.
  • 19 0
 Agreed. They should focus on producing reliable products instead of cheesing people off further. 2 out of 3 ohlins products ive owned failed.
  • 4 0
 @Richt2000 Good point. I'd also add, things that are lower-maintenance and don't require special tools.
  • 3 5
 Their products are fairly reliable, aside from the STX22, so not sure what you're referring to. Also, they came in very quickly with the greatly-improved RXF EVO compared to the original.
  • 19 0
 I will buy a dual crown for my enduro, before I ever consider a 1.8" fork/frame!
  • 16 0
 I have a few pitchforks laying around for anyone that wants to join the angry mob but forgot theirs. ------E ------E ------F
  • 9 0
 f*ck off bike industry if you chose to push a new steerer 'standard' into non-ebikes (aka 'bikes), then f*ck off some more. When you get there, keep f*cking off unil the sun goes down. When that happens, grab a flash light and keep f*cking off. Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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  • 10 0
 Yeah but at the risk of sounding like a stuck record - is it lighter than a Boxxer?
Cos if not, then there's little point
  • 5 0
 Just what we need... a new standard. I was really starting to worry that we might have actually found some standards that worked well enough to offer some measure of long term stability in components. Thank God we dodged that bullet.
  • 8 0
 It's not the size that matters, it's how you use it.
  • 8 0
 Will it end up the same way as Giant's OD and OD2?
  • 3 0
 Useless and annoying? Most likely.
  • 3 0
 Hopefully
  • 7 1
 The reality is, that all you need is a double crown fork. But motor-e-bikers want to blend in and pretend to be mountainbikers. So they come up with this stupid stuff.
  • 7 0
 HAHA here it comes! #MakeItMetric
  • 3 0
 "If you have to ask, you can't afford it". That's my favourite thing about my bike now, is, I can't even ride it to the grocery store. It really shouldn't cost as much as it does, like I look at it, and think, "7 hundos is fair, but noooooo".
  • 4 0
 We asked for dual crown forks suited to enduro and pedal freeride with lower stack height instead we get 1.8” csu’d frame proprietary fork made for ebike asthetics... what w crock of shit!
  • 3 0
 All this crap cause eMtb's are what 5Kg heavier? F-off.

Like it will make a difference for me being 85kg kitted now and then riding a bike 5kg heavier.

Or are they trying to help the 300lbs+ crowds into cycling? Get them off their electric personal mobility carts???
  • 1 0
 As posted above. Yes helps people who are not as fit as you get into the sport. Honestly I hate ebikes on mt bike trails. I say give them more power and stick them with the dirt bikes. But I have seen how they work as a gateway drug for people who could never get a bike down the road let alone up fromme. Six months later he is shopping for a real bike.
  • 7 0
 No
  • 4 1
 Not gonna lie, for some reason I read that as 1 1/8 and got all excited that I was going to be able to put a modern fork on the 1st gen v10 frame I have laying around....then 1.8 hit me......f***!
  • 2 0
 New marz 58 only 1 1/8. I checked for my v10.2
  • 1 0
 @Cspringsrider: great find!! It seems they are sold out...maybe something will pop up in buy sell. Thanks!
  • 1 0
 @Speedgoat9: chain reaction has the red ones in stock. New they run $1000. I have been trying to find a takeoff but they just came out last year. I was going to make a v10.2 27.5 front 26 rear mullet should be good
  • 1 0
 @Cspringsrider: almost every DC fork out there uses straight 1-1/8 stereer tubes.
  • 1 0
 @Mondbiker: I think its great that they are. I just wanted somthing with 40mm lowers for my heavy weight. Not alot of options out there for 40mm forks and I don't want to spend more than necessary on a bike thats 14 yrs old
  • 2 0
 I think we’re getting to the point where dual crowns should be taking over if CSU flex and creak is really becoming an issue. You also get the side benefit of more room to work with the air spring something I think I remember Steve (Vorsprung) saying they’d desire to optimize the neg vs pos volumes better.
  • 5 2
 Hopefully no one except fhok will make a frame to fit, and ohlins will loose a sh1t load of money and shrivel up like one of the french fries you find under your car seat.
  • 5 0
 Fuck off nonsense new standards
  • 2 0
 Why don't the ebike brands just make their headtubes bigger around ports for 1.5" tapers? Maybe a rough example, but Hyper had no issue doing a big headtube for a straight steerer on the CarbonX.
  • 2 1
 Gf ohlins. Does it Come with enough play in the bushings so it feels like your headset is loose and also makes front hub feel loose, but they're both tight ass... Huh... got to run at 10-15% sag too so my climb geo is all f/u. Useless asses. Save yourself money and buy rs or fox people. I've got a brand new Evo in the cupboard. Can't sell it. Says a lot.
  • 2 0
 Giant has used 1.25 upper with 1.5 lower for years. Why not increase the upper steer tube diameter to increase the stiffness at the part closest to the 800mm wide 35mm diameter bar?
  • 5 1
 it's ok, it's for e-bikes,
  • 5 0
 get absolutely fucked
  • 5 0
 LOATHE ENTIRELY
  • 2 0
 Smells like the sweet scent of scent of planned obsolescence! Hahaha how convenient... I guess everyone must purchase new frames to stay relevant with the geometry upgrades.
  • 3 1
 According to Pb comments I'm the luckiest man in the world, have owned about 5 different fox forks for years and never had any creaky csu's. And I even like stoppies
  • 2 0
 For a brief moment I thought maybe I'd been in a coma for 10 months and woken up on April 1st 2021 but no, they're 100 percent serious and it's still 2020. Shit.
  • 4 1
 The comments on this are gonna be awesome. V excited.
  • 2 0
 Throughout the clip, you do not see the fork react to a high speed impact. What is this a fashion contest?
  • 4 0
 Kill it with fire!!
  • 3 0
 I bet they’ll still creak.
  • 1 0
 Everyone was lapping up the review by Vorsprung of the Fox 38 not remedying the flex inherent in a 1.5 steer tube fitting, but then get mad about the improvements. HA.
  • 2 0
 Just buy a god damn downhill bike and cut the crap, we already too much landfill tech...
  • 1 2
 Im down with 1.8. Its change but I won't happen overnight. Besides it's for an ebike and it will make a positive difference for those rides. Nobody here has to buy this thing so why all the bitchen? The tapered standard will be around for a long time to come.
  • 1 0
 This would go great on one of Hope's bikes given they've managed to include a bespoke standard for almost every part already.
  • 1 0
 wait for it... 1.25 - 1.8 taper with a 25mm axle with 95mm un-boost spacing so you have to replace your stem and hubs as well
  • 4 2
 New pike coming out is gonna have a 1.798" steerer
  • 2 0
 Its not 1.8”. The crown is way to small to fit that streerer tube...
  • 2 0
 please god no........noooooooooooooooooo
  • 2 0
 I thought I'd opted out of ebike news
  • 3 1
 boycott the shit out of this
  • 1 0
 Only way forks are going to get properly stiffer is steerer tube width and size of the crown insert.
  • 2 0
 yeeeeay...finally....another solution for a not existing problem
  • 2 0
 We really have reverted back to the 1960’s haven’t we?
  • 1 0
 So why don’t they just put light mini moto suspension on these and be done then???
  • 1 0
 Why ask RockShox about an Ohlins fork?
  • 1 0
 Because 1.5 was such a huge success that we now need a 1.8?
  • 2 1
 Who cares....not Grim Donut Part 2
  • 1 0
 Great, another f++king headset.
  • 1 0
 Moment arm. Extreme fiber.
  • 1 0
 Spotted: your mother on my jammy.
  • 1 0
 Came in for the comments.

Is not disappointed. ????????????????
  • 1 1
 I'll take one for my next bike.
  • 1 0
 What the Thok?!
  • 1 1
 Looks like a fox 38

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