Spotted: OneUp's ultralight chain guide and 11-speed cassette - Crankworx Whistler, 2015

Aug 15, 2015
by Paul Aston  
OneUp Components Chain Guide

OneUp Components Cassette

Spotted around the pits at Crankworx today was this new chain device from OneUp Components, the brand who are based just down the road from Whistler in Squamish. They didn't want to divulge too much information, except it is reportedly, the lightest chain device on the market at only 35 grams. That is half the weight of a CLIF bar! The guide, matched with OneUp's Shimano-compatible chainring, will be less expensive and lighter than an XT chainring only. This version was mounted to ISCG 05 chain guide tabs, and it will accept 26t to 38t chainrings, including ovalised sprockets - and it is compatible with Boost spaced cranksets. OneUp says it has been tested by "certain EWS heavy hitters" all year with great success.

OneUp Components chain guide
The guide also has a very useful flip-up option. Loosen a four millimeter Allen bolt, and the guide can be twisted upwards to allow easy chain and sprocket removals.



OneUp Components Cassette.

This 11-speed cassette is in the prototyping stage and has a 10t to 45t range, which is wider than SRAM XX1, while still mounting to a standard Shimano HG freehub body. The top three cogs will be aluminum and replacement parts will be available separately. Currently, some of the smaller cogs are sourced from another brand, but OneUp says they will have the entire cassette in the production stages soon.

OneUp Components Cassette
OneUp's 11-speed wide range cassette provides the ten-tooth high gear of a SRAM XX1 cassette without requiring an XD driver. It accepts large cogs up to 45 teeth.

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143 Comments
  • 160 4
 10 tooth without XD driver, and I can use shimano 11 speed? Finally what we have all been waiting for. The game just changed.
  • 31 2
 I wish they can patent this and somehow stick it to the big two S where the sun don't shine.
  • 14 0
 All I see is xD xD xD
  • 8 9
 Id be super stoked on a 10 tooth cassette in a 10-36/40/42, but 45 is a bit much for my riding. I'd love to see a 10t single ring if possible too .
  • 3 0
 Pretty sure they did patent it, there was an article about the patent a while back!
  • 11 0
 The game is going to change again when e*thirteen brings their 9-42 cassette too. Even better is that it is 10 speed 9-42 :insert smiles here: www.pinkbike.com/photo/12564773
  • 2 0
 But will it use a shimano hg freehub body or srams xd one Wink
  • 3 2
 It uses XD.
  • 2 0
 yeah definately looks like it,s designed to thread on like the SRAM high end stuff
  • 15 1
 I had 5 derailleurs crap out on me within the last 1.5 year or so and 4 of them wasn't due to external damage. I spent the better part of this summer fixing shifting problems too. Even though the "better-than-thou" crowd would lynch me for using "anything below 32t", I'm fine with my 28x36 setup.

I really couldn't give a shit about any derailleur improvements at this point, all I want is an "affordable" gearbox to the point where I don't even care if it adds 5lbs to my frame. Carbon frames, electronic suspension and steampunk drivetrains, it would be about time someone fixes that glaring flaw.
  • 4 0
 Suntour has a gear box. Sram gave it a go in the prototype stages. Give it another ten years. then maybe......... There is way more money in replacing broken derailleurs and worn out cogs. So may be not.
  • 1 0
 I think One Up owns the patent to the GIant Cog, but not the design to the cassette.
  • 3 1
 @PLC07 maybe you have to much chain-stretch with a 28t cog and it's wearing out your derailleurs at an accelerated rate and causing all those shifting woes. I'm all for lightweight gearboxes replacing derailleurs. I'd even take a derailleur in a can like the Honda RN01 had a decade ago.
  • 3 1
 Chain is almost new and I change them often. I've had 2 internal jockey pulley springs break, jockey pulley bolt explode (?!?), a hanger bolt seize (?!?) and a wire crush plate crack. Torn one off a rock and both the ones on my bike and my girlfriend's are on the way out due to being bent and shifting like crap. If you count the 2 new derailleurs I'll have to buy when those die, that's 1250$ right there within two years just for derailleurs.

I understand it is not a cheap sport and there is general maintenance fees that comes with regular usage but you'd believe that parts who are made to take a beating would be tougher. Considering gearbox frames are about 1500$ish (iirc), it would already have paid itself.

Oh and while I'm at it, I just brought up my budget's excel file as I have a "bike" line on it. So far in 2015, I have over 1700$ spent between my DH and XC bike strictly for maintenance (no upgrades). I love biking but I'm really starting to wonder if it's worth the price.
  • 2 0
 Wow yeah you have some bad luck. In almost twenty years of MTB riding, i've broken one rear derailleur (stick-in-the-spokes method), broken one guide pulley, and worn out one cassette. Have broken plenty of hangers though. Other than that, just alot of gouges and scratches.
  • 1 0
 Depends where you ride and how you ride. In my life time I have gone through more than ten derailleurs. If you like stunts and free riding as I do. Stuff breaks. Slight bump to the cage. Cage catches on rear spoke. Then you hear that ugly ripping noise. Sticks can do the same thing.
In twenty years I have cracked a few frames and worn out hundreds of parts. May have something to do with how often I ride and how I ride.
One derailluer in twenty years? Are your trails paved?
  • 2 0
 HAHA no. I don't do alot of downhill, but do generally hit up lift access once or twice a year. Most of my riding is Trail/AM, and for the most part, 2-3ft drops is about the most air my bikes see.

I wish I could confidently say it's all skill, but I don't feel like it is. Maybe just alot of luck. Also i'm fanatical about maintaining my bikes...they get cleaned after every ride, and every winter I tear them down, clean and re-lube everything, and reassemble.

I could certainly see how someone who does alot of lift access riding would go through parts, but then my response would be - if you do that kind of riding regularly, you should be well aware of how hard it is on equipment and really have no place to complain about parts breaking. Also, i don't think a gearbox is going to help...you'll just be replacing the gearbox instead of individual parts.
  • 1 0
 In my o ppinion park trails are paved. Hucks dont damage bikes . Landing ugly does. Pushing the limits of how fast you ride will cause you to crash. For me if i dont crash occasionally im not pushing my self. I could be careful. Thats boring.
Why are thete gear box bikes my friend? And plenty of them? Becuase derailluers are a bad idea if you free ride.
How do i define Free riding? Watch one of my vids.
  • 2 2
 @Sshredder You should never crash. Riding recklessly =/= effectively training to get faster. It's a gamble that pays off most of the time, but you're likely to get seriously injured every time you crash, and you can't become a truly fast rider if you train in a way that you are riding out of control. If you are at risk of crashing, you are out of control, so you're setting a pretty low ceiling to your growth potential. That said, do what you feel is right. I said my peace. If you want to be among the fastest and most experienced riders, then you should keep in control at all times. If you want to be an exciting and sketchy rider with a short career full of injuries and broken parts, getting mediocre results till the very end, then you should consistently ride beyond your limits and learn how to go with the wild flow.

You're not doing anyone any good by telling them they should expect to crash. You are just perpetuating an extremely sketchy attitude that makes our sport seem illegitimate. I'd like it if you'd cut it out, but you're your own person. Do what you gotta do to have fun.
  • 1 1
 Dont ride on the north shore and attempt double black diamond trails. Btw every rider that competes in dh races crashes. Why do people wear armor? For fashion?
Im not telling you how to ride. I am trying to enlighten you of how other people ride.
Broke my femur dirt jumping. No regrets. Hell i dont of one single rider who has not broken a bone. We are not reckless we just prefer challenge .
Do you enjoy riding? Thats all what counts.
  • 2 1
 Rough terrain is harder on bikes, that's for sure. Last I checked though, we were riding mountain bikes who were supposedly designed for this purpose. I'd understand if we were back in the gary fisher days riding road bikes down mountains but the sport has evolved now (or not, ie: derailleurs) and it seems there is always a part needing to be changed/maintained.

@banjberra I totally disagree. Sometimes you have to push the limits a little too far to see just how far they can be pushed. The more you ride, the more the risks are calculated but you still need to get out of your comfort zone and take that leap of faith sometimes to improve. Calculated risks =/= riding recklessly. Not taking any chances means stagnation.

Also, out of like 7-8 years of riding DH, I only had one major injury with time off out of over a hundred crashes so crashing =/= injury.
  • 1 2
 @PLC07 There is never any need to see the point where the limit breaks. You can effectively infinitely push your limits without ever going close to your limits if you really apply yourself. Human life is too short to truly master anything, we are too capable. Anyway do what you gotta do. I hope you stay injury free since your last injury.
  • 65 1
 OneUp is growing and I like the direction they are heading!
  • 7 0
 When I saw how cheap the new 11 speeds were I worried it would kill 1up. I am so glad they roar to the challenge.
  • 47 1
 I really wish they'd make a 10-45 cassette with 9-speed or 10-speed spacing instead. Or even just 10-40. More cogs is WAY less interesting to me than just having more range. If I could get that without replacing the shifter and RD, that's be great.
  • 19 0
 Now that would be a good idea. I don't need 11 steps, just 9 or 10 is fine - with the range.
  • 4 1
 Yeah but that doesn't sell more shifters and RD's. Give it 5 years and we'll all be on 11 speed (and 12 spd will be just around the corner lol)
  • 14 3
 The point of 11 speed is to get this range and still have manageable gear steps
  • 4 0
 BY that time SRAM will finally have Hammerschmidt 2.0. And I'll take that with a 7 speed cassette ...
  • 26 3
 Manageable gear steps are for roadies on flat stages. if you can't find a sweet spot between two gears then just mix it up by standing on harder and grinding on lighter gear. It's good for hydraulics of them man parts anyways
  • 4 0
 Yes, something like this in 10 speed please.
  • 4 2
 @kleinblake - The point of 11-speed is to make people upgrade. You'd be surprised how much larger the gear steps can get with no trouble at all.

Shimano's bottom 6 cogs on a 10-speed cassette are 11-21.
My DH bike has a six-cog 11-26 cassette that works perfectly (Zee RD and shifter, Miche cogs).

The last step is four teeth, so there is no question that I could go 30/34/38/42 with 10-speed, and I'm sure it would work with 5-tooth steps for the biggest cogs, which would take it to 45.

And could probably go bigger than 26 on the six-cog setup, I just haven't tried yet. My first attempt was 11-22 and that worked, so I went to 24, then 26... will try 28 next time.
  • 6 0
 Excited by the 10th hg cog!
But
10-38(or 40) to work on 9 & 10 SPEED setups with NO mods to existing parts...

Would sell like fckng hot pies IF
It was affordable
  • 2 0
 Sun race will offer 10 speed 11-40 and 11-42 full cassettes by the end of the year. Believed to be working on a HG compatible 10-40/42 as well.
  • 4 1
 What about that 10speed casette Praxis is making? Aint that what you're looking for?
  • 5 1
 It's more about percentage change per shift than just number of teeth per shift. Kinda like why shifting from 11 to 10 feels like such a big jump when it's only one tooth: it's a large percentage change in ratio. Going from 10 to 9 I can't even imagine.
  • 1 0
 @podderz The Sun Race 10-40/10-42 uses a slightly modified HG cassette body.
  • 1 0
 They didnt make a 10 speed cassette as this would have made there patented 42/40 expander cogs obsolete. More products more money.
  • 4 0
 Would love a 10 speed cassette 10-42. Shimano do something leading
  • 3 0
 As bad as I want them too to make it in 10 speed I think they did the right choice by going to 11. 11 speed has become so affordable now that Shimano released the new XT group, and I'm pretty sure SLX and deore are already on the bags. So bikes will be equiped with the new standard and One Up will be the only one going up to 45T. Wise move...
  • 2 1
 I could go for 7 speeds and more range....I'd settle for 5! 9-45/30!
  • 1 0
 Seems nobody is paying attention???
Praxis, exactly.
  • 1 0
 Seems to me... Like there's a gap in the market for custom cassettes............
  • 1 0
 Praxis is doing 11-40, not 11-42.
  • 2 0
 A 10-40t or 10-42t 10 speed cassette that doesn't require an XD driver would be so prime! 400% range is plenty and 10 speeds would give you decent gear spacing IMO. If they could price it competitively with the Praxis and it doesn't shift like absolute crap, then everybody with 1x10 setup would be running that cassette. Those of us already running 40t or 42t cogs on our 1x10 cassettes could just swap out the cassette no problem.

Maybe that's what OneUp is afraid of though. They'd rather gouge you with their 2 cogs for $90 than sell you an entire cassette for ~$130 (to compete with Praxis).
  • 19 2
 Please make the cassette pricing affordable! Its awesome that it has such a big range but I think its going to be pretty pricey given the price of the expanded range rings alone.. If not I'll eat my hat
  • 7 1
 the CS-M8000(11-40T) cassette costs $62 in China，what a price isn't it?
  • 4 2
 How can a company like OneUp or Hope compete with pricing of Shimano which stocks hundreds of thousands of elite bikes every year with their 11sp cassettes? Don't expect anything lower than Sram X1
  • 3 1
 I'm not saying i want something dirt cheap but a price that is competitive with the likes of XT 11 speed would be nice, I don't mind paying 50 bucks more to get the added range but if it is in the realm of XX1/XO1 which in my opinion are ridiculously priced then I will most likely not be buying one.
  • 2 2
 Sram is indeed messed up with pricing of their cassetes but it evens up with XT and XTR cranksets
  • 2 1
 @WAKIdesigns - how does it even up? The best price I know of for the X01 crank is $290 without chainring. Best price I know of for XTR is $350 with chainring. So really X01 and XTR are pretty comparable in price. XX1 is significantly more expensive. SRAM is just completely messed up with pricing, period.

That said, cranksets don't matter really. You can buy whatever crank you want and just throw a N/W ring on it. So far, cassettes don't work that way...if you want 10-42, you have no choice right now but to go SRAM and make sure you have a compatible wheelset. This is why M8000 is a game-changer, and it will force SRAM to do something in response. The majority of the MTB riding public is riding Shimano hubs and therefore XD is not an option for them. The 11-42 XT cassette is really their only way into wide-range 1x11. Once OneUp gets this cassette out, assuming they can price it well under $200, we will have an option with MORE range than SRAM, for alot less.

OneUp - get this cassette out, pronto. You have a sure-fire hit here.
  • 12 2
 I'd pay $40 for that nub of plastic and metal. Anything more, and NOPE. I'm guessing it will be closer to $80 though... Also, getting the 10t cog on the Shimano freehub: good job!
  • 10 0
 Yea I'm hoping it comes in under $50. The e13 XCX or whatever their tiny little chain guide is retails for $80+. It's outrageous for something I could 3d print and/or cut out at home for the cost of materials and basic tools. Granted, it wouldn't be anywhere near as pretty, but it would function for a fraction of the cost.

With the price of CNC lathes and 3D printers at the moment I'm finding it difficult to reconcile how a chain guide, lets use any E13 as an example, can retail for $100-200. They are pretty low-tech plates of steel or aluminium stamped or milled likely dozens at a time with bits of plastic screwed to them. The material cost of these components is so incredibly low and I'm struggling to see how the manufacturing is difficult, expensive or time consuming.

I understand that design may take time and then you have overheads like shipping and maybe patents etc but I'm still not seeing that value in a lot of these rather simple products.
  • 9 1
 Yup, I 3D printed my own and it works like a charm! Pretty good looking too...
  • 3 0
 That's awesome id love to see what it looks like!
  • 4 0
 @SB66 - would you possibly want to share your 3D model so I could print one?
  • 3 0
 I've heard that there is technology coming down the pipe in a few years where we'll be able to print in materials as strong as metal - that will be amazing! Good work @SB66 on printing your own stuff!
  • 6 0
 look here: 77designz.com
77designz built their freesolo a while ago and it works perfectly. It`s lighter too

Apparently in CAD its close to 70, wich is a lot
Still It´s a small company just like OneUp and they came up with a good idea and built a solid product.

Let´s face it, we all gave way too much money to coorporate companys without complaining before.
So supporting the little and inventive businesses with a little more money than a quickly forgotten night out isn`t the worst thing.
  • 6 1
 @miff - Tooling. While it may cost only cents to make a part, making the mold or tooling that allows you to cheaply make a part it may cost thousands of dollars. For example, I own a shoe company and our plastic heels cost about a cent to make, but the mold costs us about $1200 for a cheap one that only lasts a few production runs. Decent tooling can cost tens of thousands of dollars.

3D printing is still slow and fiddly, but I'd love to buy a design off the shelf and print it myself.
  • 2 0
 @henkster I understand that tooling can be expensive but we're talking about incredibly simple components here. Often with no moving parts. Things like derailleurs or shifters or hubs - sure - that shit is complex and has a stack of moving parts to make work and variations thereof. But we're talking about a 20gram alloy ring with a 15 gram U-shape piece of plastic screwed to it.
  • 3 0
 What I'm getting at is that there are *some* items that I truly can't reconcile the price of knowing how cheap they should be to produce. This particular item is one such item I'm hoping doesn't have an inflated sense of value.
  • 4 2
 Additive 3d printing... Just talk to some people that work with it but don't sell printers and they will tell you that it ain't so fantastic as science fiction articles in men's health say. 3D printing is used mainly to produce parts that would otherwise be impossible to make with other methods, or would make it more expensive/ less durable, much heavier. Airbus 380 is full of 3D printed joints but they are still a fraction of the elements making a whole plane, which are made by "traditional" methods, miling composites, casts. 3D printing is also fantastic for fast prototyping. It may be fantastic for making casts but a world where you download something like cassette or a chair and you print it at home is only in minds of people selling printers and sensation thirsty journos
  • 3 0
 I myself am also sick of waiting for an affordable chain guide, that is why I just got a 1square meter of aluminium and I'll start milling whatever I think of. So weird, it cost me close to nothing, because I got it from the scrap yard. I am expecting a chainguide to cost me around 20Euro, just because I have to get some cogs, plastics will be from Opel Vectra C suspension bits. Nice!
  • 1 1
 The mould for a chain guide will never cost thousands of dollars, the material for I costs way less than the final product, I just made a plexiglass cutout in 20 minutes and it looks pretty good, still shiny and everything. A homemade cold carbon fiber chain guide costs less than a new E13 one. 2 square meters of carbon fiber cost 50 euro,with resins, glass spheres etc, you are looking at 80, the E13 is 130Euro... Yay?
  • 7 2
 Everything is fine Fereza. Now make 5000 units and add some fat 100% mark up, which if you don't make, will put you on a sad list called: "90% of new businesses fail in first 2 years". All that in the market with fierce competition, online shops ready to kill you with their sales on components from major players. All that in bike industry, where chief of a major bile company earns less than a dentist with 4 armchairs at his premises Everyone is smart about pricing until they are to make some product themselves and sell it to the public
  • 5 0
 Waki, does that mean the guy who offered to sell me a 3D copy of Ryan Dungey's 450SXF and 2 Monster girls wasn't being completely forthright?
  • 2 0
 $45, not bad. definitely less than $80.
  • 7 0
 Great so many of you guys noted that we have the same product since almost one year on the market. We are hoping to find place in a review here on pinkbike and we already offert free samples to Paul. However everybody thanks for the great support of our small brand.

Giacomo from 77designz.com
  • 6 0
 "Lightest chain guide on the market" my ass! It's almost twice as heavy as this thing:

77designz.com/product/freesolo-iscg-05-bsa

Probably going to be more expensive too...
  • 5 0
 yes these are great have been running a 77design freesolo for over a year -fantastic!
Late to the party one up!
come on pinkbike www.pinkbike.com/u/paulaston get your facts right!!!!
  • 8 0
 Both coming to my bike soon
  • 8 0
 Is that a typo? How does a 10t fit on a shimano freehub?
  • 2 0
 I was wondering the same thing. I'd love for that to be true.
  • 14 0
 Could be fantasy or we could be dead wrong, but the information we got was that the ten fits. Perhaps OneUp designed a screw-on ten tooth that replaces the end nut?
  • 2 0
 There's a green coloured end nut on the cassette. Could lend some weight to that theory?
  • 11 0
 you can clearly see the threaded ring on the end on the cassette,bright green,i think they joined the last couple cogs,but I could be wrong.seems strange that SRAM develops a whole new driver and these guys just stuff it on there.
  • 22 2
 SRAM have been peddling proprietary bullshit for years. They are the Apple of the bike world.
  • 10 1
 TNT/Ultimate Machine back in the 90s had thread-on cogs that replaced the HG lockring. You shifted the axle over and re-dished the wheel to the new center mark. They were made out of titanium and came in 10T and 11T sizes and were mainly used to convert 7 speed cassettes to 8 speed (at the time, XTR cassettes only came 8 speed 12-28 and 12-32, and XT hadn't gone 8 in back yet). I still have a NOS TNT 11T titanium thread-on cog. Also Suntour 8 speed cassettes had the 12T thread onto the freehub body and then the 11T threaded onto the outside of the 12T.
  • 1 0
 @deeeight but we can shift the axle over on modern hubs so I'm not sure how that's gonna work
  • 7 1
 looks like a 10t: i.imgur.com/HM7OVMS.jpg
  • 1 0
 @RC
I don't think so.
Shimano still holds the patent s for the screw-on type.
  • 4 0
 And that patent expired years ago.
  • 1 0
 Just looks like the lockring to me, though it's obviously got a smaller outer circumference in order to clear the 10t. cog still looks like it's on the freehub body. I'm sure we'll all know soon enough though, Interbike, Taipei, or Eurobike.
  • 1 0
 Vital says it uses ANOTHER freehub standard, neither Shimano or XD: www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/PIT-BITS-New-Products-and-Prototypes-at-Crankworx-Whistler,9274/Prototype-10-45-Tooth-Cassette-and-Chainguide-from-OneUp,95735/bturman,109
  • 2 0
 More proof that Canfield Microdrive was ahead of its time.
  • 1 1
 That means more proof that Shimano is dumb for not offering better than a disc tab-less commuter hub with a Capreo driver, it is their standard after all.
  • 1 2
 Capreo is meant for folding city bikes. The axle span supported by the bearings is less than a conventional shimano freehub rear hub and as such it would suffer the same bent axle syndrome as a freewheel type hub when used on a serious mountain bike.
  • 1 0
 I heard quite a few complaints about the Canfield hubs, that wasn't one of them.
  • 8 0
 Its not the lightest chainguide 77 designz is only 28g
  • 4 0
 Not content with 28g, Designz now has one at 20g:

dirtmountainbike.com/products/fresh-produce/77-designz-freesolo-worlds-lightest-chainguide.html#kd5ObaQ5c5opSM08.97
  • 1 0
 I recall my specialized guide coming in at high 50s
  • 7 1
 Do they have people just taking pics of everyones drivetrain or what...
  • 2 1
 I was thinking the same thing... One does not simply glance at a drivetrain and instantly note everything on it.
  • 2 0
 "They didn't want to divulge too much information, except it is reportedly, the lightest chain device on the market at only 35 grams"
I realy like OneUp, but ... wroooong. Have a look at 77designz.com
weight: 20 gram (incl. mounting hardware)
  • 1 0
 Love the name OneUp. Like you've landed on a bonus, mario bros style. Cool little device too, looks like they've just worked out exactly which little bit needs to be there and ditched the rest.
  • 7 7
 Looking forward to another continuous 3 hour cussing-session as I rip apart the M8000 mech to install the upcoming RAD'est cage so it can get to 45T properly. I really hope the next install video suggests a bottle of bourbon because 1 beer is horribly inadequate.
  • 12 0
 I had no problems installing a radr cage on a XT clutch mech...
  • 9 0
 Was dead easy on my XTR RD.
  • 5 0
 Yup same here, installed a RADr cage on a Zee mech in about two minutes.
  • 2 1
 easy peasy, lemon squeezy.
  • 1 0
 Installing the Radr cage on my XT 10 speed was easy...
  • 1 0
 Looks great!
I want a basic chain device for my Yeti SB66
Can someone help me out here?
I don't think the bike even has ISCG mounts.....
Running SRAM X1
Should I be getting the e13 XCX?

Help meee!
  • 2 0
 It has ISCG mounts, you just need oen of these www.jensonusa.com/Yeti-Removable-Iscg-Tabs. And then run whatever chain guide you want (I'm partial to MRP products)
  • 1 0
 You can buy both 03 and 05 adapter tabs for your SB66. They slide over the splined BB shell.

Also, you can get a guide that mounts to the D type front derailleur mount (if you're running 1 by), or an XCX which gets pinched between the frame and BB cup.

Many options.
  • 1 0
 If I remember correctly the yeti sb66 has a blank that you replace that gives you ISCG mounts..
Yep:
www.jensonusa.com/Yeti-Removable-Iscg-Tabs
  • 1 0
 Thanks guys,
I figured I would have to just put on the BB Adapter, unless I went with the XCX+

I'll see what I come up with - haven't dropped the chain yet, but I don't want to either!
Cheers again!!!
  • 2 0
 i,d be happy with 9 speeds with a wide range cassette , not to many trails i ride i can cog out on so a 10t does little for me
  • 1 1
 Nice looking guide. The chainring for Raceface cinch looks pretty good too. A lot of people would still want to run that smart little top guide with a bash...so how about a version with something like an integrated/combined or add on/removable bash option?.
  • 2 0
 Any details on how they managed to put a 10t on a normal driver body and not an XD one???
Now if they can make a 10-40 10-speed version, they'd have a winner! Smile
  • 1 0
 Because I do not want to purchase one to find out (the hard way), has any installed a chain guide on an oval chain ring without any problems? I do not see it working too well, thus not purchasing at the moment.
  • 3 0
 Whoever maintains that bike should be slapped. Filthy chain.
  • 1 0
 That chain needs a good ol' degreasing
  • 5 0
 That's filthy? Oh man... I guess I'm jaded from working at a shop but it's a rare occurrence to see a chain where you can actually see the metal, usually they're just black.
  • 1 0
 Well, it's not the worst, but the fact is it's on the bike of someone presenting themselves as a pro, and it's showcasing a new product to the general populace in a very public setting.
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 reminds of the days of using PHIL'S TENACIOUS OIL
  • 3 1
 Just spray sum WD40 on it and it's gunna b funtaztic
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 I was thinking the same thing. Who taught these guys how to lubricate a chain? Nobody apparently. Way too much earl on thar. Not wiped down enough after application.
  • 3 0
 Is that a Raceface Direct Mount compatible chainring too?
  • 2 0
 First thing I thought too. Rf official Cinch rings are a to expensive for what they are
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 Let's all have reality check here. If they made a wide range 10sp (or even worse 9sp) cassette - using a Shimano or Sram derailleur would shift like shit because you have to run the b-screw all the way in (even with their RAD cages, which don't do much to smooth shifting). OneUp need to release a derailleur to make the final big step, but stay nice and tight in the smaller high gears too.
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 For 10-speed, the current 42t expander works fine with the RADr cage. I JUST finished a build using the expanded 1x10 setup with a Zee shifter/mech plus RADr cage, and XT cassette. With the B-screw about 3/4 in, it took me about 15 minutes to get perfect. And by perfect I mean PERFECT. Not close to, not almost, not "except for the 16t", no, I mean PERFECT.

I think a 10-42 10-speed cassette, and 10-45 11-speed cassette for the shimano freehub are perfect ideas. If they can build the 10-speed unit for under $100 (cheaper than XT+Expander), and the 11-speed unit for under $180 (cheaper than any SRAM+XD option), they've got a potential gold mine. 9-speed doesn't really make sense because there are no 9-speed clutch derailleurs, and it's a dead platform at this point.
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 The opposite performance for me on my older Nomad. Using a SLX clutch DR amd 11-36 cassette with the OneUp 42 tooth and the 16t, I have my tension screw almost all the way in to get it up to the 42. each gear shift produces a thunk, and it will not shift out of the 16t requiring a double shift in that range. So I imagine a full cassette would also be poorly shifting. Of couse i can see that a hardtail might shift much better because of consistent chain tenaion.
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 If you built it the way OneUp recommends, using the RADr cage, it would work as OneUp advertises. I read piles and piles of threads about the 42t expansion and came to this conclusion - it works perfectly if you use the RADr cage. Every single poster that complained of issues was relying on winding in the B-screw instead of just ponying up for the RADr cage. So I made sure I got the RADr cage, and WHADDAYAKNOW, it works perfectly.

I know that OneUp says you can go without the RADr cage...but they essentially are telling you "for best results, use the RADr cage". Yeah it'll work without the cage, but "work" is a highly subjective term in this case. As you have learned - it "worked" for you, kinda.

Anyway, this is all a moot point now as the RAD cages have been made obsolete with the new derailleurs. So I have no doubt that OneUp's M9000 and M8000 compatible parts will work flawlessly.
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 I do have the RAD cage on it. Adding it did not improve shift performance too much, but it does look like it will help with cassette life as there are more teeth in the chain. From the dozen or so people I have come across on the trails with one, it seems it works much better with a SRAM setup. But evrryone who has a Shimano setup that I've come across complains about it.
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 I've got that exact setup and mine shifts perfectly fine,you must be doing something wrong.
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 Yeah when built and tuned properly, it works perfectly. Those complaining about it not working properly are either trying to cheap out and not buy the proper setup, don't know how to tune, or just SRAM fanboys. Don't know how else to explain it because it does work.
  • 1 0
 It's about time we have a regular free hub compatible cassette with replacement cogs. It took only what, 20 years of waiting. Not bad!
  • 2 1
 interested to see what that cassette will weight in at. my next cassette was going to be a shimano xtr w/1up 45
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 I'm so down. Will be snagging the chain guide along with a 34t sprocket when the guide is available.
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 i love it OneUp! It is so cool to watch you guys grow like this. I still need to buy your sprockets and cage...
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 All that new stuff on a banshee too. Nice touch!
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 Sweet, can't wait, please make one in green as well!
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 Ahhhhhh nice nice but I ride single speed LOL
  • 3 2
 I propped you because I run single on all my bikes too, but get ready for the hate cuz we're all nutters..
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 Really? Ok I will try
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 Can I get the cassette in a XD version? Because I'm sick of destroying splines...
  • 2 0
 it's called XX1, X01 or GX. =P

Or if you're down for 10speed, that new e.thirteen will be XD compatible.
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 45T top end would be nice, could jump another two teeth in front with that. Also, I appear to have pissed off the roadie hub mafia. Enjoy your crappy splines dudes.
  • 2 3
 Looks like a total rip off of 77 Designz, and as already pointed out, heavier too. Not cool One Up...







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