Spotted: Prototype High Pivot Full Suspension Bike in North Vancouver
Pinkbike user and super sleuth Tonkatruck has sent us through this picture of a prototype full suspension trail bike in North Vancouver.
Tonkatruck was the Pinkbike user who also spotted Norco's still unreleased high pivot, carbon, long-travel bike in August last year. This time he was on his way to get pizza just below Mount Seymour when he spotted this bike on the rack of a parked car.
So, what is it? Well, it uses Dave Weagle's Split Pivot design and the rocker shares a similar outline to the recently updated Troy and Marshall, so we'd have to guess it's a Devinci. This is a Split Pivot with a difference though, namely, a high pivot design.
If the bike is a Devinci, this isn't exactly new ground for them and the Quebec brand have been experimenting with high pivot designs through the Wilson they were testing on the World Cup circuit last year. According to Devinci, the concept first came to light over 20 years ago with a bike called the Big Bang, a high pivot DH bike in the early 2000s, and culminated with the Wilson HP design unveiled at the Leogang World Championships last year. For more information on that bike, read Dan Sapp's deep dive, here.
The Devinci Wilson HP was an experiment in combining the Split Pivot with a High Pivot design.
The Wilson HP was never designed for production and only two frames were ever made, one for Dakotah Norton and one for Jure Žabjek. Instead, it was an experiment to see how the HP concept matched with the Split Pivot system and we'd speculate this bike is the culmination of that.
Don't get too excited yet though, while this bike does look to be made in carbon, we're not expecting it to be released any time soon, and there definitely isn't a full review coming tomorrow. Devinci tends to release its flagship models in September each year, with the new Troy coming last year, the Django the year before and the Spartan in 2018, so we're not expecting to hear anything concrete about this bike for the best part of a year or longer. However, we'll be keeping an eye on Devinci's athletes to see if we can get any better shots of this bike at an event and will update you with any more news as we have it.
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This is aesthetically and functionally unacceptable to my "don't let derailleurs see each other" brain.
Welcome Chuck. You've reached the internet. It's a mad...mad world.
May I introduce you to the world of free publicity and drip marketing?
Used to, Specialized duct taped the head tube on the original Demo9 just so no one could see the techniques used. That's a simple example.
But this is not some secret ride spot that all the Strava kids are tagging and heat mapping.
This is a bike on a car in public view of thousands. If you want to keep a secret, you keep your moth shut.
If you want to hide a physical object, you don't put it on open highways on a display rack.
You're taking this way too far.
Now let's go one step further. If I had a secret game I was working on, and went to CES and setup a monitor and played it in the lobby, would I be actually insane to think it wouldn't be noticed, photographed, posted? Like if I had a secret bike and PUT IT ON A FRIGGIN HITCH RACK, parked in a bike-centric community??? Hell, parked in f*cking industrial Brooklyn...parked anywhere... Yea, I'd need to institutionalize myself.
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It's not like developing a bike is some top-secret mission, it's a bike. My point is that OP/PB should have enough sense to know that the developer and their marketing team have plans to release the bike at some point, and posting this photo takes some of the ooo ahhh factor out of it when it finally gets released. Prototypes go through testing, testing involves going out in the world, people are going to see the bike. You shouldn't have to go to extremes to hide it, people should respect the process and not blow the lid off before the designer intended. It really comes down to the principle of putting yourself in the other persons shoes and considering the effect it might have on them.
I also don't see the reason to attack me personally, you're stirring up more controversy than there needs to be.
Wait? I can't remember what we're chitting about
www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-innovation,10797?page=54
There was effectively a GTR wagon in the 90's known as the Autech 260RS. Nissan stopped making them in 2007.
Reckon the only JDM wagon around now is the Corolla wagon, lol.
That GTR wagon is SO cool though!
I looked a TourX/ Regal wagon. It looks good on the outside but I think they made all of the interior panels out of melted down Tonka toys. For the money you are spending, the interior materials and fit and finish are garbage. The other thing is the transmission. It has 8 speeds and it wants to use all of them. As quickly as possible. Then, once it got the the 8th gear, it absolutely refused to let it go unless you smashed down on the pedal to force a downshift. It was horrible. The motor had good power though.
I'm an Audi tech for a living, so I drive Audis all day and I literally don't know if I'd give up my car for anything in Audi's lineup even, except for the RS6 haha.
how is this inappropriate? you two obviously knows that person that "was smart enough to just let a prototype bike be sooo visible out in public" and I hope you honestly had a talk with him/her
By the way, im not after the money or fame. I just happened to get lucky catching two protos and got pictures to share with everyone.
Pretty quiet there J.P. Where did you go?
Btw, I did my own research and its pretty ironic with you're buddy jaydawg69 to be posting a picture of the at that time unreleased Norco shore on Vitalmtb. What do you think of this? pretty hypocritical don't you think?
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You're both a sore loser and a hypocrite. Props man, great on you
Do your sleuthing properly before you tell your friends here in pb and nsmb before you end up with a mistaken identity. You looked like a decent guy so be one and dont mix me up into all this bullshit.
If you still have problems, send me a message and we can discuss privately in a civilized manner. If I dont hear from you, I will be reaching out myself.
Old mates or money goes a long way in life.. I imagine the kitchen industry is doing pretty well right now and with an long history of racing he's probably made some decent connections.
Just speculation though of course.
If this creeps you out, stay off the internet man. You’d freak out if you understood what companies know about you.
If it's already carbon, that means it's damn close to production. Would be a hell of a bike!
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YT would most likely be testing somewhere in europe. Keeping things under wraps is much easier here than anywhere in north america. They also have mostly european test riders as far as i know.
I also would suspect YT to roll out a major suspension overhaul on their flagship downhill bike first, with the enduro adaptation following shortly after, given how streamlined and homogenous their whole portfolio is. Component spec also doesn´t exactly scream YT.
Last time I saw a yt prototype was in Klinovec. Erik Irmisch had a bike there nearly completely wrapped up in neoprene, so no linkage or frame details were visible.
Yup, Erik is probably the first one to get most or their prototypes.
The same with 27.5 wheels + 170mm rear travel+ gearboxe and I will be the first customer!!!!
Yawn, what else is new?