SRAM updates X.7 with carbon and 10 speeds!

Mar 17, 2010
by Mike Levy  
SRAM's X.7 group gets updated to 10 speeds and a touch of carbon!

Inside you'll find details directly from SRAM along with pictures of the new bits.

Read on...Fresh news just released in conjunction with the big Taipei bike show is SRAM workhorse component group X.7 getting a massive and complete overhaul. We're not just talking about new colors here, folks. The reworked grouppo now sports an affordable 10 speed cassette with a wide gear range, a corresponding 2 ring crankset, and a carbon caged rear derailleur that comes in three cage lengths to keep everyone happy. The new X7 bits are a massive change from what we've become used to, makes one wonder what the next incarnation of X9 and X0 will look like... Below you'll find all the details and specs directly from SRAM.



SRAM X.7 10 Speed Rear Derailleur


• Uses SRAM's 1:1 Exact Actuation Ratio
• 10 speed compatible
• 36 tooth maximum
• 3K carbon fiber cage (optional alloy version as well)
• Available in long, medium, and short cage versions
• 239 grams (long cage, carbon)
• Storm Grey finish





SRAM X7 PG 1050 10 Speed Cassette


• 10 speed cassette
• 11-32 and 11-36 gearing options
• Uses SRAM's Powerglide shift technology
• Heat treated steel cogs with aluminum spider
• 302 grams (11-32)






SRAM X.7 10 Speed Trigger Shifters


• 10 speed Exact Actuation Ratio mates to 10 speed 1:1 derailleurs
• Removable shifter perch
• Two position shifter perch
• Compatible with Matchmaker
• Slimmer design than past models
• Top cap cable change
• 232 grams (both front and rear shifter)





SRAM X7 S1400 2x10 Crank


• OCT hollow forged crank arms
• 2x10 10 speed X-Glide chain rings
• 42 or 39 big ring options
• 28 or 26 inner ring options
• 120/80 BCD
• Aluminum double hex chain ring bolts
• Uses SRAM GXP bottom bracket
• 170 mm and 175 mm length options
• 871 grams (175 mm arms), including bottom bracket





SRAM X7 Hub Set


• Spins on sealed bearings
• International Standard 6-bolt rotor mounting
• Steel freehub body
• 3 pawl clutch design
• 32 holes
• 100 mm QR front/135 mm QR rear spacing
• Front hub - 180 grams, rear hub - 425 grams





SRAM X.7 Elixir R Brakes


• Elixir R brake joins the X7 family
• Taper Bore lever with integrated reservoir
• Tool free reach adjust
• Top loading brake caliper for easier pad replacement
• Matchmaker compatible
• 160 mm, 185 mm, 203 mm rotor options
• Carbon lever option
• 375 grams (front, post mount 160 mm)




There you have it, 10 speeds out back and a carbon caged rear derailleur at what will hopefully be still X7 pricing. Are you excited about the wider 11-36 gear range and simpler front shifting? Now that 10 speed has trickled down to a more affordable level, more riders can get their hands on more and easier gears. Do you see a 10 speed cassette in your future? Tell us below!



Visit SRAM.com to see their entire lineup!




197 Comments

  • 17 4
 What the fuck! I want that!
  • 2 1
 wat O.O
  • 4 3
 woah this is so good, 10 speed gearing is going mainstream now Big Grin the XX groupset looks insane but this should hopefully bring 10 speed to the masses Smile


also, that's the first SRAM MTB hub isn't it??
  • 20 0
 wtf why not the x9 10 speed with carbon lol
  • 2 3
 No more front mechs Smile
  • 3 0
 There is a front mech,but not showed on the pic's here
  • 3 0
 SRAM made hubs a long time ago. That's like a step-down of every XX components. pretty nice.
  • 1 0
 Oh yeah, looks good!
  • 1 0
 wows ideal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • 5 0
 Awesome! I might move both my xc-trail bikes to a single 32 front to 11-36 back. Off to CRC!!!
  • 1 0
 Sweet! Just started rockin the 1 X 9. This will def help.
  • 1 0
 finaly 2x10 systems for a (hopefuly) good price...yes yes i know the prices are listed..but here in europe the prices are another story...
  • 1 0
 Dammit I just bought an x9 deraileur and shifter, would have held out if I knew these were coming.
  • 1 5
flag hangloosefighter (Mar 17, 2010 at 14:36) (Below Threshold)
 anyone know where i can get the 9spd derailer.
  • 1 1
 knowing how product launch goes, I'll take at least 4-6 months before lbs's accually have them available =( I accually like what they made a lot and the 10 spd was overdue.
  • 4 0
 Derailer are not made for a specific speed. It's the shifter that indexes are the right place.
  • 1 2
 is anyone else just waiting for a 11 speed setup like a mountain version of a super record?
  • 2 0
 10 speed just started to be coming out in the past year, 10 speed has been in road for a far decent time. 11 speed is pretty new and there is only a few select derailleurs that are 11 speed capable for road right now, it will probably be a bit before we see any more gears.
  • 6 1
 Why does anyone need 10 gears? I want 4 on my bike. Uphill, Flat, DH, Fast DH. And 2 on my hardtail, up and down. 10 gears are just more to shift through in a race on steep sections...
  • 5 2
 The answer to your question is one word: Cadence. If you know what Cadence means, you'll understand why 4 gears doesn't cut.
  • 2 2
 So cool that Sram made the X7 in carbon but I'd rather go with an X9 in carbon over the X7.
  • 1 0
 about time we got 10 speed in mtb , its been around on road bikes for a while now
  • 2 0
 i still dont see the need for 10 gears on a DH bike.. I have a 11-23 on my bike and only use 4 of them on the more pedaly tracks, but most of the time only 2-3.. Even in XC i have never feelt i dont have enoght gers with 9spd...
  • 1 0
 It's not "more" gears. The older 3x9 gave you 27 gears. The new 2x10 only has 20. Everyone is so reluctant to accept change, and always want to blame "marketing hype". I remember when people criticized SIS shifting and said that friction thumb shifting would never be replaced. Remember a company named Bridgestone who swore by it? Didn't think so.
  • 3 0
 Smike, I agree with you on Cadence...for road riding. I have rarely been on or seen a trail where it was possible to KEEP a cadence, due to rocks, roots, drops ect. Even on AM/XC rides, too many rocks or hills to keep a cadence. I will say that I mostly ride more tech trails than smooth ones.

That being said, sure I guess some people would love 10 gears, on their XC or maybe even AM bikes. For DH/FR keep it simple! (I know this derailer isn't even aimed at just DH/FR, just my opinion, I also know I spelled deraileur wrong...twice?)
  • 1 0
 I remember Bridgestone, then again, I still have thumbshifters on my commuter. There is nothing better for shifting a bent up trashed derailleur.
  • 12 3
 who the hell needs 10 speed ?! another funny invention you spend your money on
  • 3 2
 people who climb with single ring? i think that the last gear will come useful with a smaller sprocket at the front
  • 5 3
 10 gears out back means fewer chain rings up front for some riders. Thats a good thing if you ask me...
  • 6 1
 It's more tightly clustered so easier for mud to pack into the drivetrain. For the highest caliber XC racers, it may make sense, but other than that, 10 speed makes no sense in MTB.
  • 3 1
 People said the same thing about 9 speed. SRAM's 9 speed system is dialed, in large part because of the 1:1 cable pull. If they can make this 10 speed stuff as reliable I'll be on the wagon for sure. I'm less worried about mud with this traditional cassette as there is room for it to run through and not pack, unlike a XX cassette that is closed at the bottom. I'm about to start beating the tar out of a 10 speed XX group, high hopes that it will work as well as X.0, but you be able it read about it shortly.

I love the idea of 10 speeds combined with wider gearing. I'm not strong enough to push a single ring 11-34 range everywhere I go, but the big 36 will help a lot. I'd love to try a 11-36 XX cassette out back combined with FSA's 386 bcd cranks and a 27 tooth ring and light guide combo!
  • 10 0
 And people STILL say 8 speed is better than 9 speed. 9 speed has just become the norm so most people think that 9 speed is the best out there. However, personally I find that 8 speed works far superior to 9 speed when it comes down to it. Shift may not be AS crisp as a 9 speed, but in real trail application, the 8 speed sheds mud better than 9 speed, and maintains its shift no matter what. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my X-O shifting. Never had any serious issues with it. I just think that the whole 10 speed trend is just something new that the industry is pushing on us that may or may not be any better than 9 speed.
  • 2 1
 If you love your X.0 shifting and have not had any issues with it, what's the drawback to having a more gears and the crisper shifting the the 9 speed system brings to the table? And if the same applies to this new 10 speed gear I don't see why one wouldn't want it on their bike, especially with the new tractor trailer 36 tooth big cog.

Just a side note as well, there is a 12-36 tooth 9 speed cassette available from that other "S" company!
  • 3 0
 Ya while I have had great experience with X-O, there are two personal drawbacks for me to make the jump to 10 speed. The lack of real world riding on the 10 speed set up for MTB in our riding conditions. I'd love to see some long term reviews done with 10 speed with our shore muck. The other drawback for me is the un-proven durability of this new stuff. I have tried out Rival and Force in MTB applications and have had mixed results with it. DH application, the deraliler rattled appart from every pivot after 1.5 months. 4x application I have had no issues. While this stuff was intended for road, I'd still like to see the durability of new X-7 and XX tested in FR and DH applications.
  • 5 1
 clapforcanadaa & tom5, I must agree with you guys.
Most of us is running the 9sp cassette these days just because it is widely available and became a standard during the last decade.
I remember having 7sp early 90's - there was nothing wrong with it.
10 gears? - no need in MTB, won't make you going any faster Smile
  • 1 1
 clapforcanada,I know following traditional thought that 10 speed cassettes will clog more easily than 9, but it's not the case with srams 10 speed stuff. look at how the big cogs are drilled out, it seriously aids in clearing mud.
  • 1 0
 yeah but with a 10 spd cassette your chain will wear out way faster, and one extra gear prob wont help THAT much. i mean its good for some people, but theres pro's and con's to everything
  • 2 0
 agreed. more $$$ too. can get two 8sp chains for the price of 1 10sp.
  • 9 2
 Fuck 10spd. Hell fuck 9spd... I downstep all my cassettes to 8spd. I don't NEED that many choices. I would preferably run 6spd on my bikes but then you run into issues with limits screws and I'm lazy as hell.
  • 3 1
 dude you're singing my tune!!
  • 2 2
 Ah, you know you want one really....must...not...quote...Family Guy!

I can certainly see the advantages for epic cross country....."and it's a great way to stay in shape."

Dammit! lol
  • 3 0
 yea, im not trying to diss it, i've posted down a bit that while this is great for XC an stuff, its gonna be pretty weak for 4X an gate starts, sure i could run an old 6spd system but they're pretty low spec
  • 2 0
 Yeah, a decent 5/6spd set up is one thing lacking in the market. Come on SRAM, sort it out!
  • 2 0
 I don't ride XC. I only really partake in the gravity portions of our sport. Then of course street/park where I only need singlespeed.

I downstepped my 970 to a 11-26 8spd. I can still climb as much as I need to(trailhead, commuting, occasional uphill section), it's a couple grams lighter(yaaaaaay), more compact so there's no fear of rock hits... For ME at least, less is more. So there's no reason to jump on the 10spd wagon.

The carbon is neat though, I guess. haha. Razz
  • 8 1
 i guess sram is trying to do something like shimano with the saint group ...
  • 3 1
 Don't follow... Can you elaborate?
  • 2 0
 shimano came out with the saint range with hubs, gears, brakes and cranks, so what he is saying is that sram are doing the same thing
  • 2 0
 Ahhh makes sense now, cheers.
  • 1 0
 ya, like a family of components...
  • 1 1
 it also somewhat looks a bit like the XT stuff.
  • 4 0
 blimey! 10speed!! good for XC/enduro/AM...... BUT,can we now have a 4or5 speed for 4X please?? if 10speed becomes the norm thats gonna suck for gate starts, sram chains are all ready pretty weak as it is with 9speed
  • 1 0
 Easy to do custom.

And . . narrower chains are stronger. Shorter pin = stiffer pin.
  • 1 0
 so why aren't we all running narrow chains?
  • 1 0
 Nojzilla if the cassette is anything like the 970 model, you can undo a small allen bolt in the big cog and remove any of the cogs and replace them with spacers. what chain do you like for strength?
  • 1 0
 Narrow chains on a wider spaced cassette = bad shifting and chains falling between cogs.
  • 1 0
 KMC X9 the only chain i've never snapped (NOT the SL version!) i fit a new chain every couple of months weather its worn or not.
yea you can reduce the number of sprockets BUT i'm talking about a DEDICATED 4X groupset 4or5speed, with a shifter to match
thicker stronger chain (thinner chains are stronger?......errrrr ok)
thinner cassette area means wider hub spacing an stronger/stiffer wheel build
  • 1 0
 I'm aware. I custom built myself a 5-speed setup - I have done this.
A wider chain isn't a thicker chain, it just has longer pins. Think about breaking a pencil that's under an inch long. Now think about breaking a pencil that's two feet long. Which is easier?
  • 1 0
 yea your right, but im thinking more of the plates, usualy the pin is ok but the plate has torn off the pin..its why i use a KMC X9 the outer plates are (probably) the thickest ive seen..i definatly think theres a market for a specific 4X gear set?
  • 3 1
 totally unexpected that the low-end SRAM group gets the 10sp treatment. also weird that they seem to be trying to offer a rear hub AGAIN after years of it being mentioned but not offered. some might remember those white ones from about 10 years ago that were quite iffy in quality, made soon after the SACHS deal went down. if what they say is true here - and i will believe it when i see it - this X7 hub is lighter than an XT. if it works, great. skeptical on the need for 10 speed, especially in the PNW where it's sloppy and nasty much of the year.
  • 1 0
 the x7 hub is just a re-branded formula we just got one in today....
  • 2 0
 Looks cool, but until its a well established standard, I think I'm staying w/ 9 speed. The whole 1x10 is a very neat prospect though, it could definitely breed a whole new class of uber light xc bikes which don't really have a need for a granny gear.
  • 2 0
 i still dont get the need for 10 speed, loads of people run 9 speed and a single ring on the front!

i can understand if you have 3 speed on the front and want to drop down to 2 rings on the front,

at the end of the day its not how many gears you've got its if the ratios are right for you Smile
  • 3 1
 I wonder what the Shimano offerings are going to be like. I think Sram's winning this game. I'm not a fan of having another chainring standard. (120 bcd) But if it takes off... Whatever.
  • 2 0
 According to SRAM, these new cranks use a standard 4 arm 64/104 mm pattern
  • 3 0
 I see, but the chainring says 120bcd on it...? Maybe it's just the big ring?
  • 2 0
 Duly noted, looking into it...
  • 1 0
 New XTR for 2011 is 10-speed, it's unclear whether they'll trickle that down to XT or not yet.
  • 1 0
 XT and SLX will become 10 speed in 2011 next to XTR,both brands will have three 10 speeds groups.Making 10 speed more intressting for people to buy
  • 1 0
 Ignore my above statement, cranks are in fact using 120/80 bcd.
  • 3 0
 So, will 9spd still be available? If I smash my derailuer, I'm don't want to have to go out an replace a perfectly good 9spd cassette and chain to boot.
  • 1 0
 They still make 6/7 and 8 speed components, so this doesn't mean they are going to banish 9 speed all together. My hope is that they will still offer a higher end 9 speed groupo for those of us that don't want to jump on this trend...
  • 1 0
 Obviously they'll still make "something" in 9 spd. I'm just wondering if 9spd will still be offered under the "x.7" lineup, or under some different line.
  • 1 0
 clapforcanada: if you smash your derrailor you can replace it with any. theres no such thing as a ten spd or a 9 spd derraillor, its all about the shifter and cassete.
  • 1 0
 Good point.
  • 1 0
 Lester... Yes there is a difference. The cable pulls are different. If you use a 10 speed der with a 9 speed cassette, you are going to be jumping gears, doesn't really work.
  • 1 0
 Cable pulls are different, but isn't that a function of the shifter, and not the derailuer?
  • 1 0
 It's part of the der as well. I tried using force with my 9 speed shifter/cog and no go, skipped gears like mad around 7th or 6th cog. Not quite sure how the der differs between 9 and 10 speed, but it does somehow.
  • 1 0
 The ten speed derailleurs have a different pull rate then other sram derailleurs so they will have to be ten speed. this is why you cant go out and buy an XX shifter and run your bike as a 10 speed.
  • 1 0
 I use to run a 9 speed der. with an 8 speed shifter/casette. No problems. I have a 10 speed mech and a 9 speed shifter to fit to my downhill bike
  • 1 0
 the new 10 speed sram uses a diffrent through ratio compared to the 8/9 speed mech.
  • 1 0
 Shimano stuff works fine Wink

Not too clued up on the SRAM stuff to be honest but I thought all SRAM stuff had 1:1 ratio?
  • 1 0
 All new SRAM 10-speed components use the same pull ratio, meaning that the XX shifters will work with the Red derailleurs. You can't run a Red derailleur with an X.0 shifter because the ratio is different, unlike Shimano where you can use an XTR shifter with a Dura Ace derailleur and so on.
  • 1 0
 ok, cheers for clearing that up.
  • 1 0
 I guess it's the same old story - whenever another gear gets added people resist it at first but then it becomes mainstream. I think the 36 tooth option makes a lot of sense though, and 10 speed has been run on road bikes for a good few years with no problems. 11spd Campagnolo has pushed it too far though - even some pro teams are choosing not to run it because it's too fragile. It makes me wonder when 135mm is going to become 140mm to squeeze more gears in.
  • 1 0
 So, the cage is thinner for a thinner 10spd chain? Are we losing 9spd X7? If so, what happens to those of us who don't want to replace shifter/cassette/chain when one of them goes. We don't know what X9 is going to be, and I wouldn't want to step down to (S)X5 to avoid changing the whole setup...
  • 2 0
 yea i really dont want to move to ten speed im just about to move to 9 and ten is to many
  • 1 0
 i think its some marketing scheme now we'll all stock up on 9speed parts and then it will never happen lol
and are those elixirs really different of just a different colour?
  • 1 0
 seems to me eight speed stuff is still available for any curmudgeon that still wants to hang on to it... surely nine-speed product will be around for a long time, too.
  • 1 0
 I've got plans for a rival 1x10 setup for my ride right now. flat bar 10spd shifters rule! and its rival so you know its good stuff.. this is sweet though, you know the x9 and x0 are gonna b 10sp compatible. it would be foolish to not make them 10spd comp. with all the gravity guys that already run road components. Def the way of the future, less chainrings, more cassette.
  • 1 0
 I mean, it'll definitely take a few few years to phase out and even then the shift means that 9 speed stuff will be available on clearout.
  • 1 0
 wow really smart (shakes head), show your 2011 product before the 2010 product has even had a chance to hit the sales floors ,riders will now refuse to buy anything 2010 or 9spd because they know whats coming, all the bike shop owners must be freakin out

as for the product, looks great, but i hope the shifting has really improved, i'll take a performance gain before a useless carbon bit
  • 1 1
 Where does it say 2011 (shakes head)? =) I suspect we'll see these goods long before '11 rolls around.
  • 1 0
 in stores mid to late summer means 2011 model year, what is in the stores this minute is 2011

i'm talking model years not calender years, model years is how the industry works

my point is all the dealers bought 2010 product last fall (normal X7 9spd), it arrived in there shops the past few weeks/month and now they see this is coming late this summer, so they have a lot of dead stock since people will want the new stuff. shimano did it last year in road by showing the new 2010 Ultegra in Feb 2009, thereby killing the 2009 Ultegra in shops.

thats what (shakes head) means, nothing personal against you, just the bike industry doing stupid things again to destroy the inventory on shelves before its even had a chance to sell
  • 1 0
 gosh golly wouldn't it be nice if the bike company's could figure out what year it is. Calendar years not matching model year is about as smart as daylight savings time. I heard a rumor that daylight savings might be a finished. Halleleuyaaaa
  • 1 0
 in the past ive lived somewhere with nice smooth clear trails.
it seems that on a daily basis on my new local trails i finish my rides with only half of the gears working and have to kick my derraileur to get it to go into certian gears and bend it back into shape every day. there are alot of tight rocks where i ride. i think if i had 10 spd it would be way to finicky to function at all after all this bashing associated with dh riding.

i think that cyclo cross riders have proven that mud is not to big a problem with 10 speed cogsets.

on my dh race bike, per course type, ive found that a full on road cassete (11-23) is too tightly spaced jumps between gears and i would need to shift exesivly to get to the right gear. on the other hand a (11-32) mtn cassete would be to big a gap (with nine speed).

something i could see being very cool use of a ten speed rear derraileur would be to remove the biggest couple cogs and use a hub such as the 135x10mm spaced hope pro 2 SS hub with the short cassete body to build a strong, dishless, light dh race wheel for a bike such as the specialized demo 8 that uses 135 spacing.
  • 1 0
 has no-one else realized this isnt new? 10sp ultegra cassette, 105 mech (shortcage) and shimano 10 speed flat bar shifters. works brilliantly and isnt that expensive. and you have a massive choice when it comes to cassette ratios.
  • 1 0
 very true. plenty of ratios to run.
  • 1 0
 I was running 10-speed on my Cowan DS a few years ago. Even before that, you could get a Paul Components Thumbie adapter and run 10-speed downtube shifters on the bars to use 10-speed on a mountain bike, and Campagnolo used to make 10-speed shift/brake levers for their hybrids.
  • 1 0
 This 10-spd X7 is another MTB marketing gimmick!
XC legend Geoff Kabush has been winning pretty much every race he entered the past few years and he is running 1x9 setup! It really doesn’t matter how many gears you have, it’s your lags that count!!
For those of us don’t have such strong lags, 3x9 is plenty enough! After all, 3x9 gives much the same gear ratio range as 2x10, and both 3x9 & 2x10 overlapping gear ratios make MTB riders shift more often, causing more shift jigs when climb.
For 2 years I’ve been running simple 1x9 like Geoff and have conquered every trail and completed every race! (Never won one though ‘cause Geoff and alike are always in front of me!)
Sram should try to make their product more affordable, durable, sexier, and smoother, user friendlier….than competitors. Why 2x10?
  • 1 0
 Well, Way to many options.... I agree thing should be keep simple. we already have way to many thing that can break down. What happens to the chain width in this setup? Any thinner and we,ll have to carry a chain on the trail...
  • 1 0
 demn, I was just thinking about buying a 10 speed 11-36 casette and getting rid of the front mech. Realization that shifter, cable, hose and front mech weighs 500g... I think I might want to do that!
  • 2 0
 the weight savings are definitely attractive, but I need the range my granny gear provides me for my big 37lb khyber on xc-ish rides. 10-speed in the rear gives you a little extra range, but not much.
  • 2 0
 Saint was the first thing that popped in my head when I saw the design of
the new SRAM. Not a bad thing imo, Saint aesthetics with Sram performance = win
on all levels.
  • 2 0
 Well i have a DH bike so i need just 8 (lower price, longer life) or max 9, but not 10. I hope the X-9 Short cage and X-7 will be avaible in 9 speed and 10 too.
  • 2 0
 YEAH! i need x-9 short cage
  • 2 0
 Probably been said already....... but I'm inclined to believe more gears = more finiky deralieurs (sp) Likeing the carbon though.
  • 3 0
 sweet! this is a wicked improvement for the x-7, I hope the x-9 is even better!
  • 1 0
 So with that double ring crank, it looks like the spider is countersunk, is there still room to run a bash ring on the outside?
  • 1 0
 It looks the same as the XX crank setup, in which case the bolt pattern is proprietary, so no one makes a bash guard to fit it yet.
  • 1 0
 Wow. Looks like 10 spd. is the new 9 spd. I'm pretty stoked on this, provided that SRAM gets all of the shifting stuff dialed in.
  • 1 0
 i dont really see why the elixir r is joining the x7 family. its a higher quality product than the x7 group, id match it with the x9
  • 1 0
 Nah, I'd put the Elixir CR with X.9 and the CR Mag with X.0, then XX has its own brakes and everything works out. That also puts the Elixir 5 with the X.5 gruppo.
  • 1 0
 Is there any signinficant improvement with Elixirs from Juicys?
  • 1 0
 The pistons are larger, the calipers are stiffer, the levers are more comfortable.
  • 1 0
 It's pretty interesting to see that pretty much every company has improved their brakes, even Hayes Smile I stick with shimanos though
  • 1 0
 I am getting Elixirs for my Nomad, XTRs just don't have enough power and XTs aren't light enough.
  • 1 0
 which ones are you getting?
  • 1 0
 I just bought Saints for my Nomad. Heavy as hell, but well... Im tired of having issues with brakes... they have so much power under such a great control that even with issues they will work well. I'd really like to try the new Nomad. Have you tried both? I rode friends trail bike and I get a feeling that the old Nomad is far from being an Am bike its a mini-DH bike to say the least...
  • 1 0
 yea the nomad is pretty much SC's version of the sx trail
  • 1 0
 I'm getting regular CR Carbons in black. White would be overkill for when I get 1750s.
  • 1 1
 I feel there are quite a few benefits to ten speed, a possible lower q factor with cranks, less weight, better cadence, faster rear shifts. a good point was made in regards to srams 1:1 ratio, it should really help.
  • 1 1
 hands down sram out preforms shimano.The 2x10 is for xc performance. no other reason. I have the saint group on my dh bike and i run sram on the xc. this group is pretty dope. i hope the have the 2x10 available in x9 and x0
  • 1 0
 Why didn't they make an x-9 version? the x-9 is SRAM's workhorse group, not x-7. and why did they make another version of the elixir?
  • 1 0
 no one said that didn't, or won't
  • 2 1
 im totally going to get a 10 speed set up now, if its still the same price as the old x7. but still a single up front.
  • 1 2
 wtf, this is a shimano rip off, both looks and even the damn color.. wow SRAM fail. they finally flinched and copied shimano haha losers
  • 3 1
 This has just made my week!
  • 2 0
 Brakes? Why do we need 700 different versions of Elixirs?!
  • 1 0
 Agreed. How many different combinations of juicys and elixirs do we really need?
  • 1 0
 There's only 4 Elixirs.
  • 1 0
 yes:
elxir 5
elixir r
elixir cr
and this new one

they have so many at different price levels so you dont need to buy pad contact and reach adjust if you dont want it.
  • 1 0
 No: Elixir 5, Elixir R, Elixir CR, Elixir CR Mag. XX is technically an Elixir, but it isn't billed as such, so I left it out.
  • 1 1
 Then there is a bunch of OEM versions (how different they really are I do not know) I am pretty sure.
  • 1 0
 Yeah but OEM are not available for consumer purchase, so the 4 basic models are the only ones that apply to this discussion.
  • 1 0
 The XX applies. That makes 6. On top of all the brakes that Avid already makes. Too much!
  • 1 0
 even 6 are fine. it allows the buyer to choose exactly what he wants, and not have to buy more or less since he has lots of options
  • 1 0
 I just think there's too much overlap.
  • 1 0
 I agree that the Elixir 5 and Elixir R are kind of silly. They should just have the R and ditch the 5. I guess it kinda makes sense across the board if you compare it to the original Juicy brake lineup: The Ultimate is the CR Mag, the 7 Carbon is the CR, the 7 is the R, the 5 is the 5, and they still make the Juicy 3 (3.5). The XX is the odd man out.
  • 1 0
 I can agree there. I'd like to see:
Juicy/Elixir 3.5
Elixir R
Elixir CR
Elixir CR Mag

No XX, no X7, no Elixir 5. Code and Code 5 can stay.
  • 1 0
 I'd like to see Elixir/Code hybrids available to the public (like the ones on the Specialized bikes), Elixir CR Mags, CR carbons, R alloys, and that's it. There's really no need for the beefed up lever on the Code imho.
  • 1 0
 Fair enough.
  • 1 0
 I bend a lot of derailleur hangers. Eight speeds are better for me than ten.
  • 1 0
 the additional gears would barely set the derailleur out much farther.
  • 2 0
 i think what foghorn is saying is that the additional gears mean a bent hanger will have a greater impact (no pun intended) on shift quality. back in the "olden days" when i started riding, a 6-speed freewheel could run in nasty conditions on a bent (non-replaceable) hanger and hit all of the gears no problem. now, with tighter tolerances, small misalignments mean poor shifting quality. i'm not alone in being hesitant about more gears out back.
also, i have to say that my experience so far with X7, what with plastic shift levers, doesn't really jive with my expectations for a high-performance setup as you might expect with a ten-speed cassette. if you've ridden XO shifters back to back with X9, you know what i mean. X7 is worse yet - flimsy and slow(er) to react.
it's like bolting an old TurboGlide tranny in an F1 car... sure, it might work, but would you want to use it?
  • 1 0
 Well put re shift quality sngltrkmnd. though I find x7 shifters work ok, they are too flimsy.
  • 2 0
 I think it looks old fashioned
  • 1 0
 still looks sexy, no?
  • 1 0
 Oh yes, I like it, just think it looks old lol
  • 2 0
 Oh....shit Let me know when the X9 is out, ill buy. haha
  • 2 0
 when will this be available?
  • 1 0
 but why ? not enought 7-8-9 some kind riders use only 3-4 gears but 10 for who ?
  • 2 0
 10 speeds for dh are not needed ...maybe for AM
  • 1 0
 Wow, this really begs the question WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY GONNA DO WITH X9?????
  • 1 0
 Pointless. Guess I'll be buying Shimano XT instead of SRAM X7 if I'm ever in the market for a mid-level derailleur
  • 1 0
 are these updates gonna carry over to the 9-speed line and/or X9?
  • 1 0
 the only thing new is the 10 spd shifter and cassete and the carbon on the RD, you can still run the exact same derrailor as a nine speed. its the shifter and cassete that control how many speeds you have, the RD has nothing to do with it.
  • 1 0
 wow, this looks pretty cool, particularly those cranks
  • 1 0
 looks like a great update, x7 is such a great product
  • 1 0
 why not just make an x10?
  • 1 0
 They do...the X.X
  • 1 0
 the xx is more x11 as dont forget tyhe x.o - x 10 ish
  • 1 0
 haha but im saying, why didnt they just make a new x10 rather than make the x7 for 10 speed?
  • 1 0
 It's to make 10spd more affordable.
  • 1 0
 Looks good!! Is the colour blue or grey?
  • 1 0
 So when will this be available to buy?
  • 1 0
 wow! another gear! no fukin way dude!
  • 1 0
 this opens up greater youghurt drifting skidpanning with some garnished teapots
  • 1 0
 debatable, according to the banker on deal or no deal, this may create dolphine sex juice
  • 1 0
 1 more gear........HOLY FUCK
  • 1 0
 i killed a spider
  • 2 1
 but really...i think the extra gear is a bit over rated.
  • 2 1
 ken man up 9 is enuf haha
  • 1 1
 10 speeds are better than 9, the 10th speed is 'pure blisterin pal!'
  • 1 0
 incorrect tehe
  • 1 0
 hahaha, when this baby hits 10th year, all of time will become relative to your cadence
  • 1 0
 hahahahaha....who needs a job why you can pholosiphise bike stuff
  • 1 0
 i didnt see prices above!? anyone know? if i missed it im sorry.
  • 1 0
 i want one but in 8 speed
  • 2 0
 It will work with 8 speed.....
  • 1 0
 Only with an 8 speed shifter.
  • 1 0
 It won't work with an 8-speed shifter unless it has the same pull ratio as the derailleur, as SRAM 10-speed stuff isn't the same as SRAM 8- and 9-speed stuff.
  • 1 0
 My mistake.
  • 1 0
 yeah with an 8 speed shifter
  • 1 0
 8 speed chain is fatter, right? If the cage is designed to fit a 10 speed, it won't work with 8.
  • 1 0
 oh right
  • 1 0
 defiantly getting that stuff on the sx when it comes out!

any prices?
  • 1 0
 good point. nojzilla
  • 1 0
 I want one of those
  • 1 0
 mm looks nice
  • 1 0
 OMG!!!
  • 1 0
 Nice products!!
  • 1 2
 its 2010 so they're making 10 speed, you think for 2012 they'll be like a special 12 speed limited road edition
  • 1 0
 ooooooo fancy!!
  • 1 0
 SHIMANO Period!
  • 2 2
 THIS IS AWESOME!
  • 2 2
 say goodbye to 9-speed
  • 2 3
 Gears are for girls.

Post a Comment



Copyright © 2000 - 2019. Pinkbike.com. All rights reserved.
dv56 0.040038
Mobile Version of Website