State of Emergency Declared in Tokyo as COVID Cases Spike Ahead of Olympic Games

Jul 8, 2021
by Alicia Leggett  
The biggest rockgarden on the course with solid crowds around.

For the fourth time since the start of the pandemic, Tokyo has declared a state of emergency as coronavirus Delta variant cases spike just over two weeks from the Olympic opening ceremony.

Tokyo reported 920 new infections in a day, the highest number since May, and the city has increasingly implemented unsuccessful measures to try to keep the virus at bay as the Olympics have approached. Now, residents are nervous as roughly 11,000 Olympians, 4,000 Paralympians, and tens of thousands of support staff are starting to arrive from all over the world.

Because of the state of emergency declaration, most Olympic venues will ban spectators. The decision is a reversal from last month, when Olympic officials announced that spectators would be allowed, but would be capped at 10,000 people or 50% of capacity per venue. As of right now, venues outside of the city of Tokyo can still allow spectators, so mountain and road biking events are expected to allow fans to some extent.

With only 15% of Japan's population fully vaccinated, many are concerned that the Olympics will become a super-spreader event. Just a few days ago, a Serbian rower became the third Olympian so far to test positive for COVID upon arrival to Tokyo. Two Olympic Village workers also tested positive for the virus earlier this week.

"It will be an unusual way of staging the event amid a state of emergency," Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga said, according to the Guardian. "But I want to show from Tokyo that the human race can overcome great difficulty through hard work and wisdom."

We will keep you updated on how COVID will affect the Games as more information becomes available.

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  • 286 6
 Good thing I didn't pull out of the Tour De France for this.
  • 53 1
 They can just have all the riders compete on Zwift. Problem solved.
  • 15 1
 Nice, great comment. Let me piggy back onto it to tell readers to not read any of the comments below this one unless you wish to contract severe depression.
  • 9 3
 @Mugen: You don't like whiny foam-at-the-mouth opinions spouted off in internet arguments by 12 year olds? What's wrong with you?
  • 17 3
 I wish the dads of the commenters below pulled out!
  • 3 1
 @Mugen: lol you weren't lying. It's like reading Facebook arguments below. Happy Friday everyone!
  • 2 0
 @Dudeclimbsrocks: Is the term "dad" woke?
  • 4 0
 They are trying to use the political virus nonsense to mask the real problem,,,,, Godzilla!
  • 133 12
 This reeaaaally should not come as a surprise to anyone.
  • 102 66
 The mouth breathers are still in denial
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flag Jamminator (Jul 8, 2021 at 15:26) (Below Threshold)
 Agreed... Japan's incessant mask usage has come back to bite them as it's slowed them reaching herd immunity.
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flag TotalAmateur (Jul 8, 2021 at 15:28) (Below Threshold)
 @onemind123: You realize there are already Covid variants that vaccinated people can be infected with right? Don't just assume it's people unwilling to get vaccinated....
  • 168 44
 @TotalAmateur: User name checks out. Vaccines have proven effective against all known variant strains to date. That said, vaccines are not 100% effective so yes, someone who is vaccinated can still get ANY of the Covid strains, it is just extremely unlikely. Nearly all (something like 97%) of hospitalizations and deaths in the US now are among the unvaccinated. The problem IS mostly among the unvaccinated population in the US at this point where rates of spread have not actually dropped off much. We Americans have also had dramatically better access to vaccines than just about any other country so now we are at the point where we have excess and other countries are still clawing to get any reasonable amount of supply. Other countries are still in a position where vaccine rates are low due to lack of availability rather than vaccine hesitancy.
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flag rrsport (Jul 8, 2021 at 15:55) (Below Threshold)
 @Jamminator: herd immunity is a myth... everyone can catch covid whether immunised or not, its just how severe the impacts are to a person that varies
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 @rrsport: Oh god, the mouth breathers at it again. Herd immunity is not a myth. Just because you don't understand it, and your education includes 6th grade science and reading headlines, doesn't make it a myth.
  • 23 76
flag jclnv (Jul 8, 2021 at 16:05) (Below Threshold)
 @ckcost: The Pfizer vaccine is 6x less effective against the delta variant. Hence them scrabbling to develop a booster.
  • 96 42
 @nickfranko: god isn't real. Covid is. Because science.
  • 23 14
 @jclnv: but it is still more effective then without anything at all.
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flag jclnv (Jul 8, 2021 at 16:12) (Below Threshold)
 @onemind123: True, but the since the bio-active spike protein within the vaccine is also going to cause you some harm it’s up to the individual to conclude the cost/benefit analysis.
  • 31 21
 @ckcost: I literally never made the claim that vaccinations aren't effective, I was just pointing out, as you also did, that people with vaccinations can still get infected. Not only that, you further prove my point that the vaccines may not be as easy to access in places like Japan as they have been in the US.
Seriously take a chill pill, you attack me then essentially reiterate or support my argument the rest of the time lol. My bottom line: don't assume spikes are from ignorance/denial.
  • 108 1
 Calling All PB Epidemiologists!
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flag rrsport (Jul 8, 2021 at 17:05) (Below Threshold)
 @nickfranko: you clearly don't understand what herd immunity actually is and the premise that herd immunity is unachievable as the current vaccines aren't effective enough to achieve it... the current vaccines are making people less symptomatic and less likely to end up in ICU, they aren't stopping people from getting covid
  • 14 6
 @ckcost: TotalAmateur is correct here, delta is what's currently causing major issues in the UK with a lot of reports of double vaccinated people either testing +ve, or getting sick. The good news is that the vaccines do appear to be preventing most severe illness but not all.

Analysis from Israel, who have one of the world's best vaccine coverages, gave double Pfizer vaccination providing around 64% protection against delta.

It's still good and I'd still definitely take it but significantly lower than what we were seeing against earlier strains.
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flag Madfella (Jul 8, 2021 at 17:38) (Below Threshold)
 @suspended-flesh: you reckon Epidemiologists know the answers?
  • 29 1
 @Madfella: The ones who have received their degrees here on PinkBike, yes. Yes, I do. I receive the entirety of my Covid-19 guidance here.
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flag malobalo (Jul 8, 2021 at 18:08) (Below Threshold)
 Ya , instead of god he should have said ‘oh trans’ , or ‘oh ice age’ or ‘oh global warming’… that’s real science right there … no BELIEF - str8 up facts haha the subjective “science” @onemind123:
  • 14 9
 The Olympics are amazing, but not at the risk of global public heath. This is driven by the IOC and greed. I can't imagine any athlete wanting to put themselves in this situation. Pause, train and let's get back to it next year.
  • 12 1
 @ryann: by definition the IOC is greed.
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Vaccines prime the immune system in preparation to respond to an infection. You have to catch the virus for it to even matter that you had the vaccine. Upvote if you understand this, downvote if you don’t.
  • 13 2
 @recon311: so you are literally saying that if you catch the virus, the vaccines will help you fight it off. Yes, you just defined vaccine in a very strange way.
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flag tacklingdummy (Jul 8, 2021 at 20:56) (Below Threshold)
 @ckcost: One thing to note is that the vaccines have not been FDA approved yet. Only EUA (emergency use authorization). FDA needs 6 months of data in order to study and determine if it is safe for use. That is concerning.
  • 3 1
 @insertfunusername: no, you have a big window between the first shot and the second shot where you can still be infected. Humoral immunity takes 2-3 weeks to develop.
  • 4 1
 @Themissinglink83: Yes... I am aware that a person is not "fully" vaccinated untill 2 weeks after the last shot. J&J is only one shot however so the first shot is the also the last shot.

Maybe you are replying to the wrong post?
  • 12 8
 Its not complicated.
Vaccine = MASSIVELY reduced chance off hospital or death.
You still catch it. But life goes on and your body fights it. Like every other vaccine. Oh and life returns to normal.
Its why in the UK with a huge vaccine success (about 86% one dose, 62% double jabbed- but all at risk groups jabbed and kids don't get jabbed!), we are about to go situation normal next week. Japan is not in that position and therefore should not be having mass participation events.
The IOC is holding Japan under the thumb as its the IOC who cancels it not the Government without significant penalty.
There is only one conspiracy with C19 and thats single use plastic (yeah they are not paper) masks that are on every trail, in every river, in the sea, just everywhere.
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flag tacklingdummy (Jul 8, 2021 at 23:42) (Below Threshold)
 @ckcost: If the vaccines work, then why do vaccinated people care whether people are vaccinated or not? Vaccinated people are supposedly bullet proof to COVID.
  • 10 2
 @tacklingdummy: ~60-70% protection is not exactly "bulletproof".
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 @ilovedust: the fact that you’re going back to normal is a political decision just as any other decision concerning this epidemic. Despite the situation being worse than it was last summer, we have all mainstream media giving credit to vaccines for the low rates of COVID infections and hospitalizations. I’d say we better wait till November to see how effective these vaccines really are
  • 3 2
 @GrandMasterOrge: According to the companies, Pfizer and Moderna have about 95% efficacy.
  • 14 8
 @tacklingdummy: according to me, the cigarettes produced by my company don’t cause cancer
  • 2 0
 @ghirox85: we know that already because hospitalisation is not in line with positive results. Like not even barely close.
  • 2 0
 @ghirox85: So why exactly are you saying that the (I guess Italian) situation is worse than last summer?
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 It’s potentially because delta is more contagious than the vaccines being less effective for that strain though @GrandMasterOrge:
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 @ckcost: last month the uk cases have been climbing non stop. Last month also 80% of all positives were people who already recieved both vaccinations. Explain that?
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Current data out of the UK:

50 out of 7235 patients hospitalized with delta, post 2 dose shot, died.

44 out of 53822 patients hospitalized with delta, unvaccinated, died.

Table 4, pages 13-14:
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 @Muchogusto: Page 39: vaccine effectiveness against hospitalisation of delta variant, 96% after two shots.

So if 7235 patients were hospitalised after vaccination then 180, 875 people have contracted the delta varient in the UK after recieving both vaccinations.

I agree the vaccine helps allot, but i replied to the claim that for anybody vaccinated it is extremely unlikely they will catch it, which is simply not true
  • 4 0
 @qualms23: it is what it is. There’s science and then there’s “the science.” One is never settled and the other is a narrative.
  • 3 0
 @qualms23: thanks for actually looking at the data in the document rather than disregarding it completely. The world needs more people like you right now.
  • 13 3
 Thanks alot China.
  • 2 1
 @insertfunusername: I think I'm just confused by the massive fail in this comment section...
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 @qualms23: What part of the data says what you are saying. You are saying that the vaccine is (93%-)96% effective at keeping people out of the hospital, but then trying to use that number to figure out how many vaccinated people have been infected. On that same page however it states that the vaccine is 79%-89% effective at stopping symptomatic infection and it never states how effective the vaccine is at keeping people from becoming infected. You can't make the case from this info that your numbers are correct. Other data shows that although the latest variants are better at getting around our vaccines, that they are still highly effective at preventing infection.
  • 5 0
 @ilovedust: you don't "still catch it". Viral shedding is exponentially less on the very rare chance you get exposed to covid after naturally or vaccine induced immunity.

Its pretty incredible to watch people think covid is some unique disease and not realize the pcr testing fiasco. Must be awful to bike with, presumably walk their bike down literally everything because of fear. Super fun at parties too lol.
  • 3 0
 @qualms23: pcr cycles is something you should bother to look up. Testing postive after vaccination with no symptoms means it's a testing issue. Saying anything different means you're addicted to fear and a forever pandemic.
  • 1 0
 @pistol2ne: this PCR cycles stuff like a standard Facebook, Kary Mullis says conspiracy nonsense - it is not an issue. Surprisingly enough scientists and laboratory technicians know the ways our equipment works and it's limitations, which are often genuine and why you need trained staff to operate and interpret results.
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 @insertfunusername: table 4 pages 13-14 says 50 out of 7235 patients hospitalized with delta, post 2 dose shot, died. If you followed the whole conversation you would know that. And 180875 is 0.5% of the fully vaccinated population in the uk. However taking into account the rapid progress of vaccinations, ie a large proportion of those vaccinated were done recently it is safe to assume the real number is higher than 0.5%
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 @GrandMasterOrge: Lol it's 100% an issue. A 38 cycle threshold that's in many US states that picks up dead virus from vaxed or naturally immune people isn't helpful anymore. It was used to detect literally EVERY case, even if the person wasn't contagious or sick. With an insanely effective vaccine, a huge chunk of the population naturally immune due to prior infection (at least in the us) high cycle PCR tests are used nothing more than a continued agenda. Stop testing asymoptomatic vaxed or immune people.

Conspiracy theory, just like the lab leak too right? Definitely nobody profiting off of keeping everyone addicted to online buying or socializing lol. And yes, the pandemic is real, gnarly, and vaccines work. I'm just aware how people have profited and want to continue that. Also aware of the addiction to media and fear. But please, continue to call me a conspiracy theorist.
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 @ryann: Given that almost every Olympic athlete will take any drug just to win a medal I think they would. This isn't someone who is pretty good at something and spends a few hours a week training. This is people who dedicate their lives day in and day out for this one shot at a medal. For many there won't be a next time.
  • 1 0
 @GrandMasterOrge: if they prevent most severe illness how how would they know it was severe, assumption?
  • 117 10
 I dont Known if this is an unpopular opinion.... but f*ck chinese goverment!!
  • 51 0
 Insanely unpopular in the CCCP. Insanely popular in Hong Kong.
  • 30 6
 it's weird how many people will say they support HK and disapprove of Chinas social/ethnic cleansing, but support them at every economic/political opportunity. Americans have no consistent values anymore lol.
  • 28 3
 @TotalAmateur: Americans? Or American politicians?
  • 4 2
 @chrisingrassia: Social habits (everything from what technology they're using, to what consumer goods they purchase) suggest both... at least for the majority.
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 @Jamminator: what choice is there? They f'ing literally make everything.
  • 7 3
 @chrisingrassia: American manufacture isn’t what it used to be, but if you spend even a bit of time looking it isn’t hard to find anything you would ever want to buy either a) produced locally b) produced domestically c) produced sustainably in another country.
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 @topherdagopher: my wife's iphone? Our cars? Sh*t, how about bike parts?
  • 7 1
 @Miguelangel780 Pro Tip: Never say it while traveling in China, HK, or Macau.
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 Yes it's a very unpopular opinion that's not being pushed by the biggest media and propaganda apparatus since the beginning of 2010s. You're really a brave soul for repeating what the biggest empire of our time with unparalleled intellectual hegemony says!
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 @TotalAmateur: hating America almost certainly means you've never been outside the United States, it's more telling on you being intellectually lazy.

Nice bio btw, appears you're competing in the victimhood Olympics. I wish you well on your quest for virtue signaling gold!

Also, only big libertarian and far leftists approve of the ccp. Most everyone else strongly dislikes them.

Sent from Samsung, not iPhone.
  • 4 1
 @chrisingrassia: both really. I know so many people who bitch about giving all of our economic power to China, then immediately cry when tariffs or any sort of corrective measures are in place.
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flag TotalAmateur (Jul 9, 2021 at 8:22) (Below Threshold)
 @pistol2ne: I never said I hate America lol. nice straw man into an ad hominem. and don't use my gender identity as an insult, I don't take it as such and it just displays your ignorant bigotry.
just more pink bike users spewing hate. lovely.
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 @TotalAmateur: haha love the bio.
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 @TotalAmateur: Your trolling is incredible.

Did you have to get vaxed for you Olympic competitions?
  • 3 1
 @pistol2ne: hey just admit you're a social bigot and lets be done with this drivel. if I wanted to waste my time hearing the ideas of idiots I'd turn on a white house press briefing.
  • 3 0
 @TotalAmateur: I actually like your account now that I know you're a troll.
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 @pistol2ne: is that your response to everything you see that you don't understand or don't accept? just label it as some sort of joke? how big of you.
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 Crazy this is still going to happen, I feel bad for Japan and the tax payers money that went into getting ready for this.
  • 10 2
 People's wallets are already being taxed because everyone is getting so old. Even my grandparents are pissed.
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flag JustAnotherRiderHere (Jul 9, 2021 at 3:37) (Below Threshold)
 @DaFreerider44: Bigger shame, sheeple seem to have forgotten the word "hypothesis" and instead prefer fear-mongering and delusional scare tactics. Shutting down anything can not, will not, and never did provide any benefit to anyone anywhere (other than Amazon and the like).

Note to everyone: We are all mortal. Nothing we can do about it. So, in your mortality don't bother me in my life and I will not bother you in yours. Now, off to buy cigarettes.
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 @JustAnotherRiderHere: the lack of flu season during covid restrictions suggests otherwise.
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flag JustAnotherRiderHere (Jul 9, 2021 at 9:50) (Below Threshold)
 @Themissinglink83: LOL, really? Um, okay. Next you are going to want test people for salmonella (yes, you have some on your body right now) and a zillion other things. I suppose I could bring of the cases of bacterial pneumonia and a plethora of other secondary issues...but, that gets folks canceled these days. It is nice to know that if you commit suicide with a gun in more that one state in the US, well, that is China Flu as well.

To that, being asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic of something does not make you SICK from something. It is a shame however how many surgical procedures that we had to cancel (read: leave people in terrible pain and suffering every day)..and for simply no good reason.

I do still have a face mask that clearly states "Let the weak die". Those are seriously words to live by.
  • 89 0
 Are the olympic rings 26, 27.5 or 29?
  • 11 4
 They are five new strains from the lizard people, watch the price of tinfoil skyrocket!
  • 7 1
 Mullet rings to increase traction and reduce ass-buzz
  • 82 0
 I live in Japan and I can tell you the public wants cancer more than they want the Olympics. Fun note, when Nagano Japan held the 1998 winter Olympics the official accounting papers were burned by city hall to hide how much money was lost. You can find it on Wikipedia. The purpose of the Tokyo Olympics was to assure the world that it is safe to travel to Japan after the Fukushima nuclear meltdown. So that Idea aged like milk.
  • 22 0
 I will book a flight as soon as Godzilla wakes from his nap!
  • 5 0
 The lost money part is definitely true, the Winter Olympics in SLC are the only ones to actually make money I believe.
  • 2 0
 Just please let come skiing this winter!
  • 58 1
 Who knew there were so many medical experts on a bicycle webpage? I should have guessed with modern bike prices.
  • 43 0
 Half of us are Dentists you anti-Dentite bastard!
  • 7 1
 @justincs: I know that reference!
  • 5 0
 I used to work in biotech on mrna and other molecular technologies. These threads are equivalent to a bunch of roadies coming onto pinkbike and saying we should all be riding 73degree head angle bikes and 60psi in our tires. They both have no f** idea what they are talking about.
  • 32 3
 If only we could have predicted this!
  • 39 14
 How is it acceptable that a first-world country is only 15% vaccinated this far into summer???
  • 10 0
 New Zealand is only at 10%...
  • 22 1
 We have most of the vaccines…
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flag Mntneer (Jul 8, 2021 at 16:08) (Below Threshold)
 @wideopennewzealand: interesting how Japan and New Zealand have lower vaccination rates because the people are intelligent and cautious. If you aren’t vaccinated in the US then you are a dumb conspiracy theorist
  • 3 2
 @Mntneer Lmao my bad misread.
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flag Mntneer (Jul 8, 2021 at 16:19) (Below Threshold)
 @cgreaseman: guess what cocksucker, I’m vaccinated
  • 4 2
 @Mntneer: Seems legit reason why people have not been vaccinated lol Had my second does of the bioNtech one a couple of days ago.
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 @Mntneer: you're half right, "If you aren’t vaccinated in the US then you ARE a dumb conspiracy theorist". The success of limiting the spread in NZ (and Oz) means the urgency for vaccination is less. Sadly most of the vaccine hesitancy for covid has been imported from overseas
  • 5 1
 @wideopennewzealand: They did say 1st world, which excludes New Zealand! Smile (joking!)
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 @Mntneer: Japan only started vaccinations in May. The law required that the vaccines were tested n Japan before use. That delayed the rollout.
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flag DanaPoint949 (Jul 8, 2021 at 22:39) (Below Threshold)
 Lol I’d rather be a “dumb” conspiracy theorist then shoot an experimental pharma concoction into my body. Let’s see what the long term effects bring. When even the founder of MRNA is saying this should not be injected into humans is speaking out.. you may want to re-consider your trusty MSM news source. It’s your choice if you want to inject pharmaceuticals into your body. But I think your wrong for calling others dumb for not following suit. Once you inject this into your body, your immune system will creat foreign anti-bodies for the rest of your life. This greatly opens you up to auto-immune diseases as soon as a new sickness enters your body (common colds/flu/etc). I wish you and the rest the best of luck and I hope I’m wrong.- I feed my body right, and I trust the immune system god gave me. We humans have been on this earth for thousands of years without big pharma. This is Darwinism at its finest. If you want to fall for the fear campaign, go right ahead. But question who really is the dumb one here @danncam:
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 @DanaPoint949: the uh...founder of mRNA? Who's that then?
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 Even with vaccines but it’s a imperfect suppressor, infection rates back on the rise
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 @GrandMasterOrge: the founder of mRNA was sir Frances Lizzerd. And he succumbed to auto-immune heating after eating nothing but tinfoil for weeks
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 @DanaPoint949: "We humans have been on this earth for thousands of years without big pharma".

Thousands? You think humans have been around for just thousands of years? Do you know the history of what was happening to humans before medicines?
I just can't tell if this diatribe you wrote is satire or your true reflection of knowledge.

Let me ask you this: let's say you don't get vaccinated and you contract C19 but are asymptomatic, and you and I cross paths at the grocery store line, I get it from you and I fall incredibly sick.....maybe shoulder zero responsibility or ownership to your fellow neighbor?
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 @DanaPoint949: When you talk about the immune system that god gave you and say thousands of years I'm guessing you think that'd be around 6 thousand.
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 @wideopennewzealand: as for the 10% in NZ - it's obviously easier to track infected people when the only means of entering the country is through an airport - few other countries have this luxury, so we have to rely on vaccination
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 @chrisingrassia: First of all, these vaccines do not prevent neither transmission nor infection. They supposedly prevent severe illness. And that comes from the producers themselves, it’s not my opinion. Second: you have Fauci on video clearly stating that asymptomatic transmission is very rare and it’s never the driver of outbreaks. These were his exact words, spoken in April of 2020. And last but not least, I have no responsibility whatsoever on your health. If I judge that a vaccine, or an experimental drug like in this case, could entail a higher risk to my health than any potential benefit, I’m within my rights if I choose not to get vaccinated.
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 @ghirox85: they knew next to nothing in April 2020 and Fauci would probably acknowledge that.
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 @DanaPoint949: You're unbelievably ignorant of science.
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 @BenPea: yes, the history of virology rewritten in just a few months. It makes perfect sense.
His exact words were: “In all the history of respiratory-borne viruses of any type, asymptomatic transmission has never been the driver of outbreaks. The driver of outbreaks is always a symptomatic person”
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 @chrisingrassia: Do some research, big pharma isn't God...
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 @danncam: Cheers, I'll take my 99.7 percent chances
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 @weaverlandbikepark360: do you have the honest position that the COVID vaccines are what you consider big pharma? You're likening a vaccine to things like opioids or anti-depressants or ADHD meds or other obviously addictive sh*t? Come on man ....
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 @ghirox85: fully agree on your first point.
The problem on your second point is, unless there is a cheap and rapid detection method with 0% false positive and false negative rate, it is really hard to track asymptomatic transmission. Standard protocol for free PCR test (covered by the government in my country) is showing symptoms and have a positive antigen test, or had close contact with someone who is positive by PCR test.
On to your last point. If you have mild symptoms, played it down, not getting yourself tested, and still doing business as usual, then IMO you are partially responsible for every person that you infect. The dilemma is, in regard to your first point, milder symptoms which is caused by vaccine may increase untraced asymptomatic cases. This is not a problem if a large part of the population is either already had the disease or vaccinated (herd immunity). If I had to choose between contracting the disease or getting the jab, then comparing the fatality rate of the disease and the vaccine is easy.
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 Dr. Robert Malone @GrandMasterOrge:
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 I’m no expert but I do know the history of diseases. They have come and gone like the plague, which there is no vaccine for. But for a human made disease, that’s a different story. And by the way, plant medicines have been used for thousands of years. All pharmaceuticals come from plants. Let’s say you risk getting sick by leaving your home. Well that’s your choice. If your afraid to get sick, then stay home and let the others live without fear. Let’s say that this experimental shot means you die in 10 years, who do you hold responsible? We all die my friend. However I will not partake in something I truly believe is a vaccine assisted suicide. If you believe you need this for better health, then have at it. @chrisingrassia:
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 More and more evidence showing humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years ‍♀️@commental:
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 @DanaPoint949: how dare you have a different opinion lol
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He is treated by Sky Jeebus, MD.
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 @DanaPoint949: Just a couple of points:

man made? what are you talking about;

There are a couple of vaccines for Yersinia Pestis;

All pharmaceuticals don't come from plants;

How will this vaccine cause people to die in 10 years?

What you should have written as a qualifier is " I'm a moron" not "I'm no expert"
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flag DanaPoint949 (Jul 9, 2021 at 19:03) (Below Threshold)
 If you didn’t know it was a man made virus then you’re really not up to date about much of anything. Just to give you an up to date fact: cdc and VEARS just put out today a report of a 30% up tick in vaccine death tolls this week alone. It’s real mate. Just have to dig harder then what’s being perceived on the surface. I said in my first post just one way it can cause death. Hell, just look at the animal studies in the past ten years of MRNA and that will explain itself. You my friend sound like more of a moron for not knowing any of this information. Instead of sitting on a keyboard shaming others for a difference of opinion, do some research on it. @mtb-scotland:
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 ‍♀️ Right? The sheep loose they’re shit when someone goes against they’re grain @whitebullit:
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 @DanaPoint949: your evidence?

mRNA takes a complementary copy of a gene from the nucleus to the ribosome. I'm really have no idea what you are talking about "animal studies in the last ten years".

Just you point out you are arguing with someone who has a doctorate and studied the mechanisms of gene expression regulation for years. My knowledge and understanding of this area of biology is significantly greater than yours.
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 Vaccines for rapidly mutating viruses are just tools to fight yesterday's war.
  • 7 0
 For me getting vaccinated has been a win win situation. Not only do I not have to worry about birth control measures anymore due to my sterility, but also for some reason I never lose reception on my phone now.
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 @DanaPoint949: Robert Malone did not invent mRNA, it's a natural component of cellular protein production. It's existed for millenia.

Robert Malone does claim to have invented the mRNA vaccine technology, but this doesn't seem to be correct or at the very least is quite a stretch (he wrote a paper in 1989 where they got mouse cells to express a protein from a firefly). I would expect the technology has had some input from a number of other people in the intervening 32 years, and as ever in science, don't listen to 'authorities', look at the evidence they present. I don't actually care who he is or what he claims to have invented if what he says disagrees with the evidence.

I can almost guarantee every single person who says "do your own research" has never worked in a research lab.
  • 3 1
 @DanaPoint949: DanaPoint949 have you seen the latest? VEARS and Robert Malone just put out a statement showing 100% that your a moron
  • 15 0
 What a #cluster although the Olympics is returning to its roots whereby he strongest survive and the rest die. How this can be advocated for in Australia where we cant get Australian citizens home including unaccompanied minors (22,000 - 30,000) but these athletes and dignitaries will be given priority to come and return. Nice work.
  • 11 1
 As an Adelaidian I can tell you the reason is the Australian Gov is hopelessly incompetent.
  • 14 0
 Yep, our esteemed premier is going to the Olympics. Yet relatives of loved ones struggle to get into the country for weddings and funerals. I don’t have any nice words for our so called leaders
  • 4 3
 A racist PM is one reason that comes to mind.
  • 2 0
 @Jamesfrederickoneill: A scared nation whom in one time would have sacrificed for any Australian citizen and gone to war over liberties lost is the reason. The Politicians only do what the majority of the demographic polling tells it to do. Its the country jack, and those liberties lost now will never be returned.
  • 1 0
 @trashpander275: Really coz as an Adelaidian I thought the it was the people whom demanded their governments closed down borders, destroyed Federation and lived in isolation despite their citizenship rights demanding freedom of movement and freedom of association protected in their citizenship.
  • 15 0
 Just out of curiosity, how many Pinkbikers planned on attending the Olympics in Tokyo? It seems all the Dr's, scientist and dentists here have tickets and are pissed that they cant go.
  • 5 1
 I was actually supposed to go and be part of the BMX and XCO events (not as an athlete). Unfortunately, I couldn't get vaccinated on time.

I was at the test events in 2019 and I'm absolutely disappointed that Covid-19 robbed me of an opportunity to be at the Olympic games.
  • 36 30
 Ivermectin was discovered by a Japanese scientist, strangely enough.

With a 70% effectiveness rate, and no anti-vaxx movement against this, its pretty depressing that various health authorities are so against it.
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flag mtb-scotland (Jul 8, 2021 at 15:31) (Below Threshold)
 Sorry dude but there is no evidence to show that ivermectin does anything for covid-19 infections.
  • 6 5
 Spot on dude
  • 26 13
 @mtb-scotland: BS. There are a number of studies.
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flag mtb-scotland (Jul 8, 2021 at 15:43) (Below Threshold)
 @jclnv: There are studies but they don't show it is effective. The FDA or the EU (or UK) has not approved it for use against covid-19.
  • 45 19
 @mtb-scotland: Because it’s out of patent and license free. No money to be made there. Why do you think vaccines were the only game in town for this virus from day one and any other treatment was aggressively condemned to the point that you could be banned from social media platforms for mentioning them. With all due respect you would have to have a completely useless bullshit detector to not find something odd about that.

I could post a number of studies. How do think India went from disaster zone to not even being mentioned in the media within a couple of days?
  • 5 4
 @jclnv: and you think decadron is making people millions in treating covid? Lol
  • 28 10
 @jclnv: Ivermectin is being used in Africa more than anywhere else, but for its original intention of being an anti-parasitic. Africa has fared the best of any continent for COVID. While this obviously isn't evidence that Ivermectin works on continent-wide populations, its certainly smoke. It certainly warrants some investigation, but like you said if you even include the world "ivermectin" in a youtube video or fb post your post will be flagged and taken down. We can't even have an open discussion about it.

I HATE conspiracy theories. My precious libertarian movement is infected with 9/11 truthers and anti-vaxxers. But when you do what governments and health agencies have been doing for the past year, what do you expect to happen? Its turning me into a conspiracy theorist, and even worse, agreeing with you!
  • 19 5
 Dr Tess Lawrie did a meta analysis a while back and it supports that ivermectin is a great tool for this pandemic. There are more studies on the way. Also, check out other countries that are already implementing it.
Big Pharma doesn’t benefit from ivermectin because it’s cheap and off patent. Couple that with the WHOs and CDCs bumbling of this pandemic in multiple ways and I’m way more inclined to believe doctors and physicians on the ground.
  • 20 10
 @mtb-scotland: The FDA has not approved the vaccines either. They were rushed through.
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 @Themissinglink83: No. But global governments are set to spend 160 billion on C19 vaccines before this gong show is over. Just in time for the next lab leak.
  • 13 16
 @hamncheez: oh jesus this narrative again. (location checks out BTW).
  • 6 6
 @Retic: so is Tylenol and decadron. Neither of them are money makers, but are first line treatments. You guys are nuts.
  • 1 0
 @cpscotti: the reasons listed for m reasons not to the ivermectin could also be said for Tylenol
  • 17 14
 @Themissinglink83: No, what is nuts is the agenda by so-called respected medical journals like the Lancet etc to conduct a smear piece against Ivermectin. They clearly knew it would derail the vaccine push if an effective treatment was found.
  • 7 4
 @jclnv: but if you raise the topic, the brain dead people will quote sources that used the lancet as the foundation for the author’s logic and then call you an idiot
  • 5 1
Watch the results from other countries using ivermectin. You’ll see…
  • 28 13
 @jclnv: dude it doesn't work. In that study (which is pretty poor) more people died in the group taking ivermectin . It was a single blind study and their P values were pretty high. Did you even bother to read it and make your own mind up.

Vaccines prevent disease which saves money overall.
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 @jclnv: I love it when someone say study...
@mtb-scotland. You are correct, don't believe those who say the vaccines were rushed through, that just shows a lack of understanding of the process for design, verification, validation and clearance.

You need a clinical trial with validated efficacy data and clearance from world bodies like the FDA, Dekra etc.

The best thing about the internet is you can prove anything. Even the earth is flat, one country was believing that if you drunk bleach or lived in a hot place you would be fine.
  • 5 1
 @jclnv: you can find a "study" to support any argument.
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 @jclnv: From the slightly shady study you have linked:

“ rate of clinical improvement was 73.3% (22/30) in the study group and was 53.3% (16/30) in the control group (p = 0.10). At the end of the study, mortality developed in 6 patients (20%) in the study group and in 9 (30%) patients in the control group (p = 0.37). At the end of the follow-up period, the average peripheral capillary oxygen saturation (SpO2) values of the study and control groups were found to be 93.5 and 93.0%, respectively.”

Even if those P values are true and from appropriate models, it is clear that Ivermectin at best has a very small effect on the most severely affected Covid patients. It reads as a study looking for a conclusion before the data are generated.
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flag jclnv (Jul 8, 2021 at 16:53) (Below Threshold)
 @betsie: What is the current treatment in the UK for someone who tests positive to C19? Go home, isolate and wait until you’re symptoms are severe. Instead they could treat people with Ivermectin and that instance it is very effective. The majority of these studies are treating cases that are already severe. Cases at a stage where vaccinated people have not recovered.

The vaccines were clearly rushed. The trials won’t conclude until 2023.

No, I admit I didn’t read the study I quoted. I just posted the first I found to prove to counter your point that none exist.
  • 20 10
 The bottom line is that Ivermectin (which even if not effective, is proven by 30 years of study to be safe, even at very high doses) can't even be discussed. The WHO has proven to be unreliable, politically motivated, and biased (see the Taiwan incident). The FDA has been as well, to a lesser degree. The efficacy of Ivermectin is ultimately not the point- its the smear campaign, silencing, propaganda, and outright lies from most major institutions surrounding any scientific discussions about COVID. Look at the lab leak theory, or Fauci's private emails in which he told a personal friend that its safe to travel for vacation (after saying publicly that it wasn't safe to travel) and advised his friend against wearing a mask.

Without allowing for honest debate the truth cannot be known. It is common and accepted practice to treat severe COVID patients with Corticosteroids. This came about because doctors were trying it, and shared their results with other doctors. As the popularity grew with anecdotal stories, more formal studies were done and it was found to be effective. This is how science works- you don't stumble in the dark, you look for smoke to orient your plan of inquiry.
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flag jclnv (Jul 8, 2021 at 17:11) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: Lies! There is only one “science”. The institutionalised, peer reviewed circle-jerk, science where 50% of the scientists time is spent recruiting funds from governments who are lobbied by multinational pharmaceutical corporations. Zero conflict of interest in that scenario.

No wonder these vaccines are so safe and the alternatives are utterly useless.

You’re still young dude. Give it 10 years and your bullshit detector will be as finely tuned as mine lol
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 @mtb-scotland: and no country has "approved" the vaccine either, it is experimental and only "authorized" in an emergency situation.
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 @jclnv: your bullshit detector is well off mate. If you are into ivermectin then I've got a bridge you might be interested in...

The ivermectin stuff is so weird, it's not like there's any good evidence that it works against covid. It just appears to have taken off on certain social media channels and has now been latched on to (hey, remember hydroxychloroquine!). Plenty of off-patent drugs get investigated and used for novel uses, dexamethasone being a prime example - cheap and off patent and employed as a front line treatment for sever Covid. How does that fit with the patent conspiracy thinking?

There's loads of "studies" on ivermectin online, and even websites claiming to be meta-analyses of it's effectiveness. Unfortunately none of it holds up to investigation or provides rigorous data that backs up the claims.

I should caveat this with it may turn out to be effective, there is a study ongoing - this also applies to any number of currently existing drugs. However the data available on it at the moment does not show this.
  • 14 8
 @d-man: The UK has approved the use of the Moderna vaccine; the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine and the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine. This is done by an independent organisation called "Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency"

There is very low to low certainty of evidence to suggest that ivermectin does anything for covid-19. The doses that have to be used to inhibit viral replication are way above what is considered safe.
  • 16 8
 @jclnv: I'm glad you are telling a covid nurse what works for treating covid lol. Good luck with that, troll.
  • 8 4
 @GrandMasterOrge: Well said that man/ogre. Half my family are pro-sheep drench, having previously been pro-bleach. They fully embrace the conspiracy world-view.

If nothing else; they won't any worms or parasites after taking the sheep drench.
  • 8 8
 @hamncheez: why quote the things Fauci said in his emails sans context? Do you know the context of that email? And the lab leak theory?!? You're just discrediting yourself at this point.
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 @ryd-or-die: no u
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 @jclnv: how was the vaccine rushed?
What experience do you have with med tech companies?
What experience do you have with clinical trails?
What experience do you have with the development process?
Do you know or work with many principal scientists in med tech?
Do you know how many projects are parked in med tech so far along the development path due to market changes, funding or a new leader coming into the business?
Have you ever been involved in a regulatory submission?
Do you know the difference between a minor, major, note to file, resubmission?
Do you know which companies are on the FDA fast track list?

I guess not or you wouldn't post what you do on here!

What is your experience?
Or are you just quoting someone on the internet?
  • 11 2
 @jclnv: I think you don’t understand how funding or a scientific lab works.
  • 7 1
 @jclnv Your argument holds no water. Cheap, out-of-patent medicines have been used to treat Covid-19 for months, but only when there is good evidence that they work. Not when some conspiracy-theorists think that they do.
The primary example is Dexamethasone, which is standard treatment all over the world for severe cases.

Btw, look at India and their problem with extremely dangerous "black fungus" infections. That is what happens when misinformed people who believe in wonder-treatments use the wrong medications on Covid-patients.
  • 3 0
 @Retic: it works. Just ask around in any farming community.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: so that's a no then.. got it.
  • 1 2
 @ryd-or-die: "you're wrong, but I'll provide no reasons why"
  • 10 0
 Dick pounded
  • 6 2
 I suspect Japan is more scared about the arrival of 100,000 new foreigners (officials, staff, athletes, broadcast media, etc) than they are their own citizens.

So much for the 9.2 million/day they were projecting back in 2019.
  • 3 2
 Yeah, Japan is worried about all the new variants arriving with the staff and athletes. Delta is just starting in Japan now.
  • 7 2
 Thank you for spreading this news! Im 41 and live in Japan and as of now there is now venue or area or outlet to even get vaccinated! Im very concerned with how this whole event will pan out over the next month!
  • 9 2
 Niko! Dirtybikeのブレットです Dude I am booked in to get my first jab of Pfizer next week, but I have asthma so I think I can book it early. My wife works as a nurse, she has been fully vaccinated for a month or so. If you contact City Hall you should be able to get some info on where and when you can get it. Get on the phone to your city hall to book it early. Stay safe
  • 1 0
 Yo dude! its been years buddy! We need to shred together sometime soon man! I rode my NS for 5 years and Im getting ready to repaint that beauty! Thank you for the heads up. I was just trying to make a point that these Olympic Games are going off yet most of the country has no idea how to get a vaccine if you wanted! Its good to hear you are on top and taking charge! Thats awesome mate! RideOn!
  • 20 16
 @extratalldirtrider: No kidding. That 1% chance of death is terrifying. Meanwhile the leading cause of death on the planet is heart disease at 15%, so enjoy that SuperSized murdered cow, greasy fries and oh so healthy Coke...... after all, what's the worst that can happen??

Choose what to be terrified of carefully.
  • 28 5
 You can personally choose to have an active lifestyle, and bad eating habits is not contagious. Just saying.

Malaria has around the same fatality rate as covid (at least in my country), so why no lockdowns on malaria outbreak? Because halting its spread is easier. Kill the vector (mosquitos), done. On the other hand, covid is spread by infected humans. Kill the humans, then? Well, only if your name is Kim Jong Un.

Tl;dr comparing diseases based on its fatality rate alone is dumb
  • 8 5
 @rifu: "bad eating habits is not contagious" Tell that to the next 160lb 11yr old you see.... If you can't see that, then you are not looking hard enough.
  • 8 1
 The 4th leading cause of death for people below 65 is suicide. Death by tinfoil is no different
  • 6 1
 If cardiovascular disease becomes highly contagious and asymptomatic then I'd expect the world to have a similar reaction... The proportionately low covid death rate should be celebrated as a success.
  • 3 0
 @DBone95: The closest I can think of in regards of "contagious eating disorder" is certain types of gut microbiota that can change our eating preference. It may be "socially contagious". Eating the same food as your obese friends and family will lead to similar gut microbiota make up, which will alter your eating preferences. It also works the other way around though. Changing our diet, eating probiotics etc. will change our gut microbiota make up, which will lead to better eating behavior. So it is more of a chicken-or-egg situation.

This "contagiousness" I was talking about is different on so many level compared to how SARS-CoV-2 spread. Or do you think we can exchange what is in our gut as easy as breathing and talking? Do you put your feces on the mouth of every person you meet? Eewww.

Oh, and every time I see 72.6 kg 11 year old, I don't assume that it is caused by eating disorder. It could also be genetics. Not all people has the same basal metabolic rate.

PS: the problem in using "not looking hard enough" is whatever counter point I convey will never be "hard enough" for you. You should "try smarter" in presenting your point. See what I did there?
  • 1 0
 @DBone95: unfortunately for Covid, it doesn't provide nearly the amount of funding to your government as the agrifood industry, so the battle against poor nutrition is virtually impossible to win.
  • 2 2
 COVID deaths lead the U.S. in 2020, overtaking heart disease as the number one cause of death. Heart disease itself is a a self caused pandemic, but not really comparable air born disease.
  • 4 1
 Wow! Had no idea so many right wing retards were mountain bike posers too. Bet they make up the e-bike contingent as well.

Shower me with downvotes, I'll revel in your contempt! (That's if you can pull yourselves away from the Vanilla Ice video you have on constant loop.)
  • 6 0
 Finally, Serbia was mentioned on Pinkbike Smile
  • 13 8
 So ridiculous, media just pandering for views.
  • 9 7
 Pinkbike is the a*shole here. Don’t tell me they aren’t enjoying the user engagement from stoking an anti-vax debate. We all heard about the Olympic updates elsewhere, and it’s barely related to MTB news at all.
  • 6 0
 first XC, a type of MTB... in the games....... I'd say pretty relevent......
  • 4 3
 @nojzilla: yes, that is very exciting... but not mentioned in this article. Thus the “barely related” status
  • 4 0
 @DigRideRepeat: there's a big photo of the XC corse test event at the top if the article............
  • 2 0
 Pinkbike random poll: How many of those who received vaccinations are able to stick magnets on their injection site (or anywhere else on your skin)? Serious and ridiculous responses accepted.
  • 6 2
 Literally looks like they built an MTB track on a golf course. Bizaare.
  • 13 2
 That was the Rio race course... The Tokyo race course is 1000% better!
  • 9 0
 Sergio Mantecón Gutiérrez has a full POV on his YouTube channel from the 2019 trial race.

Tokyo course looks way better than the Rio and London courses... lots of punchy climbs, off-camber, and actual single track sections.

As far as Olympics go, it's the best course in a while.
  • 3 0
 The course is actually in Izu (Shizuoka) with a view of Mt. Fuji. It's easily the best XCO course I've ever seen. It's pretty gnarly too.
  • 26 22
 Hahahaha what bullshit just run the games
  • 3 0
 There are lots of Tokyo 2020 T-shirts on sale here if any of you young hipsters want one. DM me
  • 7 3
 Palm to face… are we done with this bs yet?
  • 3 0
 innevitable, international travel is the worst for this pandemic sate of events............
  • 2 0
 They made such a big rock garden, but everyone will be taking the same line. They could of made more rock gardens with all those rocks instead.
  • 7 3
 Hold on, let me go check the MSM to see how think and feel about this..
  • 5 4
 MSM... the marketing department for Big Pharma. You can tell no one goes outside the lines here because everyone parrots the exact same marketing language including calling Pfizer and Moderna shots a “vaccine” (MODeRNA has never even made vaccine before). Remember, believe everything you’re told and for the love of Buddha, don’t dig for truth, just receive what you’re given and accept that no one would bother to mislead you for any reason ever. Bad stuff only happens in history books. Also, never read anything from WEF or their ilk and RFK Jr is just a nutty “conspiracy theorist“.
  • 5 2
 press "F" to pay respects
  • 2 1
 I wonder how many of the athletes are not fully vaccinated, or have perhaps had SinoVac? The Chinese vaccine seems to not really be effective against Covid in general.
  • 5 5
 Currently sat here with covid, 7 days of isolation left. I've had one jab, my boss who has had non contracted it at the same time is extremely ill, vaccine must count for something
  • 4 0
 how many died?
  • 2 3
 Japan was the star of the covid show early on with incredibly low cases, early lockdown/measures. Now they can't get their head out of the sand to vaccinate their population. They knew the Olympics were coming and didn't prepare with early, pre-purchase contracts for vaccines? Top notch preparation there guys.
  • 5 2
 Covid is ravaging Mother Earth; soon there will only be 99.98% of us left!
  • 4 1
 Covid denier, antivaxxer etc. Please watch more main stream media until you believe the propaganda. Smile
  • 3 0
 @mcozzy: I have assigned myself ten hours/day of talking heads to get my mind right. Thank you.
  • 1 0
 @JohanG: Questions being, are you riding a Hot Potato and have you started sleeping on the Interstate?
Things fall apart, it's scientific!
  • 3 1
 Did the flag burning bmx bandit get it ?
  • 3 0
 Huh…go figure
  • 2 3
 Who would have guess a bunch of people from every major country on earth traveling to one location to could just maybe cause a rise in cases......meanwhile Florida still exists and showed almost 3X as many cases today alone.
  • 2 0
 Covid games how much does positive result effect performance?
  • 1 0
 Haha. More credit required for this one.
  • 2 0
 At least these games aren't in Rio!
  • 2 1
 Tokyo : 920 new infections per day
Indonesia : hold my beer
  • 2 0
 No comment
  • 1 0
 @jclnv: where the hell did you read that
  • 3 3
 well this comes and a surprise
  • 1 0
 Here we go again !
  • 3 2
 nobody cares
  • 1 0
 Play ball
  • 14 15
 I laugh in the face of covid.
  • 15 6
 Hope that works out for you.
  • 14 0
 You misspelled 'cough'.
  • 2 3
 Joking aside, it actually does work. Keeping a positive/upbeat mindset does strengthen the immune system. No magic pill, but it does help.
  • 14 15
 Just cancel the damn thing already, shouldn't be happening anyway.
  • 20 11
 Yea! lets all hide in houses forever!
  • 12 17
flag matadorCE (Jul 8, 2021 at 20:07) (Below Threshold)
 @nsmithbmx: OR let's all get vaccinated and let this variants pass. Strange concept for people in the US, I know.
  • 11 13
 Somewhere in the Sahara desert there's a tumbleweed that cares...
  • 2 4
 I didn't know japanese were such pussies. Good to know.
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