Straitline Hydraulic Gyro - First Look

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T10irons (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:54)

Will they be offering any other greek foods??

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KonaStinkyKid100 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:20) (Below Threshold)

i dont get it

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radarr (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:24)

@KonaStinkyKid100

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manchicken (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:43)

that is so AWSOME

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jd529 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:52)

pita pedals, souflaki shifters, baklava brakes... ok that was lame i know.

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jd529 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:53)

damn i forgot kebab kranks

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awais (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:07) (Below Threshold)

oh a gyro is a sandwich!

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jd529 (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:07)

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g1701gst (Jun 13, 2011 at 23:07)

i thought everyone knew about lmgtfy...

bikeracer28 (Jun 14, 2011 at 10:47)

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@bikeracer28

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bikeracer28 (Jun 15, 2011 at 10:09)

thx, didnt realize it automatically made the video thing for u.

prevail (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:15)

this one has to be reliable, mccaul and semenuk are using it for years now. i got one too and never had any problems
www.trickstuff.de/shop/product_info.php?language=en&info=p494_Tr-xer---Hydraulik-Rotor.html

rubbermeetsmud (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:29)

hopefully they make some for people to buy and not "just for the pros" bullshit

gettys (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:45)

And yet they both seem extremely enthusiastic about switching to something else. Hmmmmm...

prevail (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:46)

because trickstuff is just a small manufacturer and cant pay the same salary as straitline

sittingduck (Jun 13, 2011 at 21:55)

dingdingdingding! Bingo! Not that those dudes don't deserve to get paid! But that's real talk.

bikeracer28 (Jun 14, 2011 at 10:49)

i think they do sell it on the internet. i saw someone riding with one a couple weeks ago and then i looked it up on the web. its like 250 bucks

IanHylands (Jun 14, 2011 at 19:51)

Straitline isn't paying Semenuk or McCaul either. As kylepaulson mentioned above and as was mentioned in the video if you listened to it, McCaul helped out with the design of this one. Not for money, but because he wanted something that worked. And you may have noticed that McCaul and Semenuk tried them a few years ago but they actually haven't been running them at all. This one works well enough that they want to run it...

prevail (Jun 14, 2011 at 20:51)

"And you may have noticed that McCaul and Semenuk tried them a few years ago but they actually haven't been running them at all"

www.pinkbike.com/photo/5338863 mccaul DJ

www.pinkbike.com/photo/5422100/?s5 mccaul Slopestyle

www.pinkbike.com/photo/5998891 semenuk

www.pinkbike.com/photo/5683008 semenuk

im not sure about semenuk but mccaul is running the trixer non stop for several years now. i doubt he would ride it for such a long time if it didn't work well.
im absolutly cool with them riding the straitline gyro. but i dont like that straitline is acting like they reinvented the wheel. in fact they improved (did they? nobody knows yet) a system thats been there for almost a decade

IanHylands (Jun 14, 2011 at 23:51)

Okay I take back the comment that they haven't been using them at all, they haven't been using them most of the times I've shot with them which has been fairly regularly over the last few years. As you showed in the photos above they used them on their slopestyle bikes last year, but I looked back through several years of photos and it seems they used them intermittently at best, and generally only on their slopestyle bikes, not on their hardtails. At least in all the photos that I have.

Straitline isn't claiming anything, in fact there is no comment from Straitline in the post at all. Mike Levy says "this isn't the first go at a hydraulic gyro" and if you listen to the audio you will notice that Mike Montgomery straight up says that they took a design that they felt didn't work as well as it should and improved it. And he mentions that Cam was involved with the design as well, working from the one that he's had to improve it. And they did improve it, we know that because Semenuk tried this one and will be putting one on his bike immediately. He isn't using the other one, and I would have to guess that's only because he isn't happy with it. If the trixer actually worked as well as you claim these riders wouldn't be putting so much effort into improving it.

Nowhere in the post was the Trixer mentioned by name by any of these guys, they were quite professional in not naming what they felt didn't work. This wasn't a review of the Straitline product, and it wasn't a comparison of different products. It was simply a post based on the new prototype that Mike Montgomery and Cam McCaul helped to design after I spoke to Mike about it at the Jump Ship event.

Straitline (Jun 15, 2011 at 14:09)

Relax everyone, you are ruining the readers experience by bantering. We responded to Mike and Cams request for help and we made a product that they are happy with. That's it that's all!

nouser (Jun 15, 2011 at 21:53)

To me gyros are kinda a waste unless ur sponsored becuase it requires some dough $$$$ to buy one. I wouldnt mind just buying a long steel braided cable. haahah i really would like to see people drilling in their frames to buy one of these too

MikeZinger (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:50)

by far the best feeling gyro ive felt for sure, dosnt feel like a spongy peice of ass

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DirtyDee (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:02)

Personally, I quite like the feel of a spongy piece of ass.

Views (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:09)

^ damn

BenLovesIdaho (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:43)

I lol'd

tom666 FL (Jun 14, 2011 at 15:31)

Dude, here's some props.

reecewallace (Jun 13, 2011 at 22:49)

Really sick gyro! I had the opportunity to visit the straitline factory in Sydney today and got to take a peak at what they have been doing, the gyro definitely seems a step up from what other companies have been producing, but $6000 dollar proto price tag holy cow haha.

x-rider (Jun 15, 2011 at 0:58)

Trickstuff has already the second version of the Trixer going and tested by pro riders I could already see the new one in Winterberg and the brake still felt firm. It is lower as well and they changed the seals from the Trixer MK I to the Trixer MK II it was more than just a facelift. As they told me. So happy rides and spins with that. I am running a Trickstuff Trixer MK II by my self and haven't had any trouble since month.

DH-Til-I-Die (Jul 31, 2011 at 9:34)

Straitline will destroy trixsters verson..

alkibogdan (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:19)

why nobody know the trixer by trickstuff? works almost like the gyro and everybody can buy it

inakiarri (Jun 14, 2011 at 13:41)

the trtixer is known but it is too expensive... i also know about an atomlab one that is "cheaper", but its expensive any way and i heard about some problems with it

JHewitt (Jun 14, 2011 at 14:55)

apparently it makes the brake feel spongey... i couldnt comment though because ive never tried one

IanHylands (Jun 14, 2011 at 19:52)

The Trixer and the Atomlab one both had seal issues that made the brakes feel really spongy and the riders weren't happy with them, that's why they designed this one...

JohnnyD13 (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:31)

solid looking gyro. And knowing straitline with the burly parts made by them so far, This may be the one product that could be good

Slopestyle669 (Jun 14, 2011 at 16:03)

MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT MAKE IT

airbornealf (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:52)

Awesome, I hope it works. I want one. Would make doing a tail-whip so much easier and worry free. Stoked, can't wait.

avery25 (Jun 13, 2011 at 19:41)

Yeah, you havin tangled cables when you try to tail-whip?...

richierocket (Jun 13, 2011 at 21:19)

Hahaha, you said it!

SamHowell (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:12)

definately would buy one if it worked flawlessly

lostonabike (Jun 13, 2011 at 19:30)

Headset integration won't work. Most DJ bikes use an integrated set aka NO CUPS.

home-team (Jun 13, 2011 at 22:30)

this system will work with an integrated set up, it has nothing to do with the headset, sits on top ...

regan1 (Jun 13, 2011 at 23:31)

I like how they just screwed it into the headtube.

campofchampions (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:48)

The gyro is amazing. It feels like your regular brakes, just better. Ken

nickis (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:36)

How low could they make it? If they could make it low enough than for sure it would be sick!

prattler (Jun 14, 2011 at 0:04)

It is a pity that the rotor of Trickstuff isn't mentioned in the article...

IanHylands (Jun 14, 2011 at 19:55)

It's not mentioned by name because the article is not about it, the article is about the new Straitline one that is designed to fix a few of the problems that the other ones have... And actually it is mentioned
[quoten]previous attempts in the past by other companies have always been scuttled by seals that weren't up to snuff, making for an unreliable setup that, even when working, took most of the firmness out of the lever.[/quoten]

raleighjumper2010 (Aug 12, 2011 at 17:14)

hey this means i cud practice barspins on a dh bike

Tom-Cardy1993 (Oct 6, 2011 at 10:01)

how would you run this if you have no tabs on your frame??

lely-pie (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:46)

what if your frame does not have the gyro tab holes?

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coxydiver (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48)

go buy a drill

seraph (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48)

I'm sure the one that people have been testing is a prototype unit. Hopefully in the future, Straitline will design the gyro to work without tabs.

gazmataz (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:57)

You'll be able to drill holes in your headtube and thread them to allow it. As long as it's below your headset cups and your bolts aren't too long, it shouldn't be a problem in my eyes buddy.

IanHylands (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:02)

yes exactly, tabs aren't necessary as you can see on mike's proto above. Like gazmataz said, one or two small threaded holes should be an easy retrofit especially if you can use the guide tabs as a drilling guide.

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theminsta (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:03)

Hey, here's an idea! Why don't you make the upper headset cups with the lower hose guides? This negates voiding frame warranties, and Straitline can move onto making awesome headsets! Benefits of this is obvious: -lower stack height -stronger and lighter setup than the ghetto modifications -straitline makes profits -riders are happy -Everybody wins!

Views (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:08)

was about to say.... theoreticaly right! but whats with frame warranties? lol i wouldnt risk that

theminsta (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:10)

*are
Man, I should screw off architecture and go into engineering new/better components for bikes.. I would truly enjoy life like that.

thegb1212 (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:12)

or they could partner with a headset manufacturer like chris king or cane creek

toddonbike (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:39)

Can't wait to see somefool drill holes in his headtube with his fork still installed and drill (even screw) right into the steerer tube. haha, anyway looks/sounds great!

Nobble (Jun 13, 2011 at 22:18)

how about a small plate that you seat under the headset before it's pressed in?

seraph (Jun 14, 2011 at 9:33)

That wouldn't work with an integrated or semi-integrated headset.

theminsta (Jun 14, 2011 at 13:35)

Would not work at all because the threadless headset fits perfectly with the frame... There would be no space to even try to wedge it in.

seraph (Jun 14, 2011 at 13:50)

Well actually you could install a plate beneath a standard threadless headset. That's how a regular gyro works when a frame doesn't have gyro tabs.

inakiarri (Jun 14, 2011 at 13:55)

right... but there must be an other option to keep it on its place without making holes...

crs-one (Jun 14, 2011 at 14:14)

I'm sure warranty departments worldwide will just be THRILLED with kids drilling holes in the headtubes of their jump bikes.

Straitline (Jun 14, 2011 at 19:03)

Your right, foolish idea. Lets leave the warranty claims back in the brake makers lap when people rip and ruin cables. Progression is so silly. I threw away all of my toilet paper. My neighbour has an outdoor patio with at least 200 square feet of fake golf turf so I should be good for at least 3 months. Just bugging, and yes we will have to have a guidline and this would come inside the gyro packaging to avoid home installs.

griff369 (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:50)

im in id definatly buy one if they came out

tanner-greiner (Jun 13, 2011 at 19:06)

i will definitely buy one, once it comes out

crs-one (Jun 13, 2011 at 22:00)

Edit whooooooops false alarm wrong window.

striukaz (Jun 14, 2011 at 4:15)

just love it. perfect idea!

marleh (Jul 20, 2011 at 22:28)

i like it how you can hear brett tippie in the background

Vorar (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:13)

pretty much.

Otang (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:50)

yeah probably

shorerider69 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:56)

Can't wait!!!

ChadVoos (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:23)

or you can just get a longer brake cable

DMike83 (Jun 14, 2011 at 5:34)

TrickStuff!!!!

www.trickstuff.de/shop/product_info.php?language=en&info=p494_Tr-xer---Hydraulik-Rotor.html

DH-Til-I-Die (Aug 8, 2011 at 13:46)

shit

Mistah-Salmon (Dec 29, 2016 at 12:19)

Where can you get it?

pheonix-up (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:45)

Nice!!

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Spec-Rider (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:48) (Below Threshold)

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RaleighVoid (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:56)

spec-rider, go away with your strange fetish...

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Spec-Rider (Jun 13, 2011 at 17:12)

neg prop me

pheonix-up (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:49)

Strange dude

caiocrz (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:28)

YES.

Larkey1 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:46)

must get one.

dom69foco (Jun 14, 2011 at 3:47)

pretty much

Caliber38heavy (Jun 14, 2011 at 7:41)

I lol'd pretty much.

crc92 (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:54)

pretty much.

manchicken (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:45)

pretty much

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phil130792 (Jun 13, 2011 at 15:55)

uuuhhm yeah, I've pretty much been told to promote the shit out of this product that I don't yet know anything about, and it's pretty much better than all it competition. you should pretty much BUY it.

cork (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:01)

Or maybe he is sponsored by them, gave PB the first look, and wanted to share what he knew? Take the negativity somewhere else please.

mikelevy Mod (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:03)

@phil130792 - There isn't really any "competition" as of right now. There have been a few other versions in the past years, but nothing that has been reliable enough to stick around.

MCsession7 (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:06)

What about the TrickStuff gyro's, Semenuk & Mccaul ran them for a couple years and didnt hear of any troubles with them, Martin Soderstrom is now running one as well.

capt-picard FL (Jun 13, 2011 at 16:46)

The problem with TrickStuff's giro is that the brake feels spongier when used but if this one doesn't feel spongy at all I'm down to buy one.

tmargeson (Jun 13, 2011 at 18:36)

I love when people use the word "negativity" completely wrong.

kylepaulson (Jun 13, 2011 at 21:33)

Mccaul, and Semenuk, are both going to be riding protos at the Claymore as well as Casey Groves. if you watched the video you should know that Cam Mccaul was also involved in the developement of the gyro. It is not about money, it is about the riders needing a more reliable better functioning solution to the problems such as frequent bleedouts, and spongy braking and excessive friction.

Views (Jun 14, 2011 at 9:25)

phil is kinda right, no? i mean the comments realy look like promotion lol, hate on me!