Tech Randoms - Crankworx Rotorua 2020

Mar 3, 2020
by Aidan Oliver  
We've been searching the pits for some new tech at Crankworx Rotorua and found a smattering of recently released goodies.




Leatt

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

Leatt had their new clipless and flat pedal shoes on display.




Industry Nine

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

Industry Nine had their all new carbon wheelset laced to Hydra hubs. The carbon rims are made in Kamloops, BC, by We Are One Composites, and use a layup specifically designed in conjunction with Industry Nine. There are XC, trail, enduro, and DH models available.


Troy Lee Designs

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
The new Troy Lee Designs D4 helmet looks even better in person.





Cycle Muck

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

New Zealand based company Cycle Muck had their pH-neutral bike wash on display. They claim there's no need to use a brush and unlike alkaline-based cleaners which strip grease and crack seals, their environmentally friendly wash keeps your bike running smooth.


Box Components

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Box Components had their new 11,8 and 7-speed drivetrains on show.


POC

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020
We saw plenty of locals wearing POC's new Axion SPIN helmet. Described as a more affordable, lightweight, all-mountain helmet, but still with POC's Spin protection and stylish looks.


Crankworx Rotorua 2020
POC's own Spin protection integrated with the helmet liner.


Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Classic POC styling.

Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Crankworx Rotorua 2020

A New Zealand student had his start-up company on show which made a 3D printed a 4 piston brake caliper. The open design increases airflow and saves weight, a caliper with pads weighs just 60g.


Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Original vs new Santa Cruz Heckler... which do you prefer?


Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Banshee's new Prime.


Crankworx Rotorua 2020
Pivot's new Switchblade on show which Eddie Master piloted to the top spot of the Toa Enduro last weekend in Rotorua.



144 Comments

  • 126 16
 I'd have to say I prefer the old Heckler. I have a 2000 model that has been completely rebuilt 3 times worn out numerous components and is still going strong. Admittedly it is not being used offroad much these days but I still occasionally use it for commuting to work the pub etc. Also currently building up a new last of the true Hecklers at the moment so I'll have one of the first and the last of the true Hecklers.
  • 114 50
 I prefer the original, it's a bicycle powered by humans. The other is something else. Not bad just not a human powered.
  • 16 10
 i wouldnt say no to the new one but .. the old one just looks way cooler.
  • 35 4
 @NorthernIron: agreed, the new one ain't bad it's just not a Heckler IMO. I kind of take offense to them using the name for such a thing could've at least been single pivot.
  • 15 7
 @NorthernIron: @Brownsworthy: looks like you two have been heckled, so I think it works, I'm pretty sure thats what santa cruz were going for.
  • 4 0
 @bankz: yeah, wouldn't knock one back if it were given to me I just have a special kind of love for my old Heckler that bike saved my life.
  • 3 0
 @inked-up-metalhead: Haha! Probably are having a poke at us old purists.
  • 6 24
flag enduroNZ (Mar 4, 2020 at 1:07) (Below Threshold)
 Yawn... @NorthernIron:
  • 15 1
 I'll bet the old Heckler didn't cost nearly 4k more than an mx race or enduro bike either
  • 5 0
 @jerseyjinx: Nope, but in the 20yrs I've owned it and all the components and complete rebuilds its had I've probably spent nearly what my 2018 Sherco SER 250 6 days cost me.
Bloody hell I hope the Mrs. doesn't see this!
  • 3 2
 @Brownsworthy: most definitely. Like intense reviving the tazer name for their ebike, but even more on the nose and tongue in cheek.
  • 11 29
flag matthewsnow (Mar 4, 2020 at 4:46) (Below Threshold)
 @NorthernIron: It is pedal assist meaning you still have to pedal it to make it move.
  • 26 0
 @NorthernIron: I'd take the new Heckler, sell it and buy a Nomad and keep the change.
  • 31 23
 @NorthernIron: The other one is not a bicycle but 100% a moped. And it is bad for cyclist. It is almost always ridden by incompetents. They rear end you on the climbs, and they block you on the downhills.
They should make separate trails for motorized mopeds. Otherwise they are helping the closure of more trails.

e-bikes are like having sex on viagra, without getting an hard on.
  • 3 0
 I'll tell you one thing, I'm thankful for the cassette size increase! Look at how tiny it is on the classic one! I sometimes forget how far we've come, even in the past 5-10 years. Smile
  • 1 1
 @egb81: is that admission people are buying what SC is selling? Or is SC, just making ebikes for some fool?
  • 5 14
flag RedRedRe (Mar 4, 2020 at 8:27) (Below Threshold)
 @PacificNorthWes: Did we?

That is a 26 inches and does not need the bigger gear of 29 and 27.5. Also the average person back them was more athletic than nowdays. It has a front derailer with 22 ring. So it has more gears, less spacing between gears, the chain, cassette and derailer last much longer. It has less waist of energy because the chainline is better and the chain does not work in extreme angles. It is made of more durable and better grade alu.

1x is great for the right application, but if you ride hard and long (more than 2hrs), the 2x, 3x has advantages. The only reason industry standardized on 1x is because it makes it easier to design and sell bikes to new people. But as on bikes that grind miles, it is inferior. On your wallet too.
  • 1 1
 @egb81: my thoughts exactly
  • 3 0
 My 2003 heckler was the only frame I haven't broken which survived so many cased landings and abuse
  • 8 16
flag PAmtbiker (Mar 4, 2020 at 10:47) (Below Threshold)
 @NorthernIron: I'm pretty sure that the new one is still human powered. You have to be pedaling for the e-assist to work. It doesn't just go on it's own.
  • 5 13
flag matthelm1 (Mar 4, 2020 at 13:25) (Below Threshold)
 @NorthernIron: Definitely still human powered...
  • 6 1
 All I can see in that photo is a bike and a toaster...
  • 1 0
 @ibishreddin: I've certainly abused mine as I don't necessarily have much finesse and tend to plow through, weigh nearly 120kg with gear and it has never failed.

Even now when I ride it, it just feels right it feels like home and I can still keep up with most modern rigs as long as my legs and budgie lungs hold out.
  • 4 9
flag DrPete (Mar 4, 2020 at 19:50) (Below Threshold)
 @NorthernIron: the new heckler doesn’t go anywhere without human power so I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
  • 2 2
 @DrPete: bicycles provide mechanically assisted propulsion, ebikes provide power assisted propulsion. Mopeds, motos, vehicles also provide power assisted propulsion, they all require some amount of human power to move them, the amount of power required varies with an ebilke requiring the most and a vehicle the least, but a human will tire of driving a vehicle eventually. I feel it is this distinction which means some people associate ebikes more with mopeds, motorbikes etc than bicycles.
  • 1 0
 anyone else notice the similarity of HA and StA ont he two Hecklers? Come on SC....catch up eh ;-)
  • 1 0
 @Stinky-Dee: It's a statement that if I were offered the choice of the two bikes for free I'd take the more expensive I've for purely financial reasons. I can't afford a fancy Santa Cruz, though an alu Chameleon is my sole MTB.
  • 3 0
 @Brownsworthy: We should start a support/coconspirator group of people trying desperately to keep our wives/husbands/partners from finding out how much we really spend on bikes. Then when we're trying to prove a point we can say, "Dear, really, this dropper post only costs $60. Go ahead and ask a random pinkbike user, say.....like Brownsworthy. He'll tell you the same thing!"
  • 2 0
 @RedRedRe: You talk some pure bollocks
  • 2 0
 @viccuus: Haha! Sounds brilliant!
I was actually nearly caught out the other day when I had the new build spread out on the lounge room floor deciding what parts were needed and what colour scheme to go with and the Mrs. came home early.

I was lucky though she walked into the kitchen and said she felt like a Turkish Pide for dinner I proclaimed that was a great idea and she should go grab one and quickly ushered her out the door.

I then packed everything up and hid it in the spare room.
Phew crisis averted!
  • 65 4
 All these bike cleaners........has no one heard of Simple Green? How about Dr. Bronners and vinegar? The environmentally friendly options have been available for decades.
  • 33 0
 Or soap
  • 14 1
 simple green is so cheap. And you get to mix like 15 spray bottles worth out of a 10$ bottle of concentrate
  • 46 6
 @SlinkySammy: Or don't wash. Wait to dry then brush
  • 6 1
 @SlinkySammy: Is that an acronym for something? Wink
  • 44 0
 @jenksy: or don't wash. Wait to dry. Ride again. Don't wash. Wait to dry.
  • 10 1
 @fracasnoxteam: This. Moreover, the added friction from the filthy drivetrain makes up for a very good strenght exercise.
  • 17 0
 @jenksy: or just spray down with water post spun while mud is still fresh
  • 2 0
 Citrus cleaner, $8 a gallon
  • 5 2
 Of course Ive read Dr. Boners Lol
  • 1 0
 @fracasnoxteam: How long does the sticky gunk under my water bottle area take to dry before brusing it off? It gets kinda gooey after about a week or so..... :-)
  • 1 0
 @fracasnoxteam: that’s my program. Every few rides I might spray with a hose.
  • 2 0
 @scotttherider: don't. Never.
  • 1 0
 @RoadStain: does this part moves on it's own? If it doesn't, wait.
  • 1 0
 @scotttherider: your bearings and your bike shop hate you
  • 6 0
 @kiddlivid: nah sealed bearings are good. I don’t spray them directly. I put lube on my chain sometimes. What’s a bike shop?
  • 4 0
 pH neutral soaps are actually really important when your goal is to preserve your bike (or car). There's a reason why you don't clean your car with all purpose cleaner unless your goal is to remove sealant or wax. The pH neutral soap won't get into bearing and areas where grease is important and break down the grease, where as simple green and other all purpose cleaners will.

But yeah, throw whatever you want on your bikes.
  • 2 0
 @Mntneer: I like to superglue items to my carbon fiber bits in high stress areas too man!
  • 7 0
 You really shouldn't use Simple Green to wash bikes. Since it's pretty basic (as in, a pH above 7), it can be harmful to paints and drivetrains. Yes...I know that you and I know of plenty of people that have used Simple Green for years and have never had a problem. But I've also first hand seen it take off the clear coat from Shimano components and wear down the paint on a frame pretty bad. Plus, Shimano now puts in its chain manuals to only use pH neutral cleaners. This was in direct response to people using Simple Green and they have seen chains degrade prematurely due to this and apparently havfe seen some chains break on people from heavy Simple Green use.
TLBig Grin R - bike-specific bike/drivetrain cleaners actually usually work pretty well. Or if you're cheap - just use a heavy mix of Dawn dishwashing detergent. That stuff is amazaballs. Source: I was a Product Manager of a line of bicycle lubricants and cleaners.
  • 2 0
 @wako29: meguiars gold class soap. An inexpensive, great, gentle cleaner.
  • 3 1
 @jenksy: what's this 'dry' you refer too?
  • 28 2
 Dear box. If you could make wide range 9 speed cassette that weighs less than 450 grams and doesn't cost an arm and a leg, that'd be great.
  • 24 0
 I counted 9 cogs on the cassette above in the right hand photo? Or am I just blind?
  • 2 0
 You can probably get close to that if you make your own. I thought about doing this. Basically take the 11-46 sunrace 10 speed cassette, get a 16 cog from 1 up and replace the 15 and 17 ones, throw 2 spacer in the back of the 46. I think the stock cassette with 10 speeds weighs like 490 grams so you would be right around 450. Use a 10 speed shifter with the 11 speed shimano gx derailler, and you are set.
  • 9 0
 ?? They do!
A 9spd 11-50t cassette, chain, shifter, derailleur is like NZD$490 ($350 less than the XX1 cassette on it's own in NZ)
Just run it with your current chainring, cranks & your good to go!
  • 2 0
 Subrace already have this covered mate, although it's fair to say that that box cassette is beautiful in design Beer
  • 2 0
 Stupid auto correct... Sunrace
  • 6 2
 It's a Pinkbike typo, I've been looking at that cassette, it's a 9 speed. Makes so much sense. I'd love to see a review. Still not cheap, sadly.
  • 3 0
 @mudcycles:

SunRace CSM990 9spd 11-40T Nickel finish 425g in black/silver:

www.sunrace.com/en/products/detail/csm990

Loads of places selling, around £35 GBP on Amazon. Me and about 6 friends have them on our bikes and they work great with shimano and sram derailleurs. Coupled with a Sram N/W 32t steel forged x-sync chainring and you have a long lasting combo!
  • 1 0
 Yeah...what others have said. You can get an 11-50 or 11-40 Sunrace cassette, a new SLX 12 speed derailleur, and an old XT shifter (M8000, or whatever 10 speed was) and it'll work fine.
  • 1 0
 @landscapeben: I love my 11spd sunrace cassette, reasonably light, shifts well, cheap, has anodized spider.
  • 2 0
 Microshift Advent, 9 speed 11-42, 447g
  • 1 0
 Oh, and under £30
  • 1 0
 Garbaruk makes an affordable 10 speed wide range cassette that weighs less than any competitor.
  • 2 1
 The Box Three Prime 9 cassette is $75USD and weighs 525g. If you have a problem with the extra 75g then take a drink of your water bottle or wipe the sweat off your forehead, weight problem solved.
  • 2 0
 Bring back cassettes that weight less than a lb, maybe about half, and less than $200. Is that too much to ask?
  • 2 0
 @emptybe-er: Garbaruk 10 speed 11-45t cassette weighs 266 grams, cost $189.
  • 2 0
 @PtDiddy: wow, that’s perfect. I didn’t know they were so light! And free shipping to the US. Gonna have to look into those, thank you!
  • 1 0
 @emptybe-er: I have had mine for about 3 months. Couple hundred miles on it. It’s been great. I’m running it with a gx shifter and derailleur. I originally used a shimano shifter/derailleur but it The shifter got in the way of my guide brake. Otherwise both set ups worked well with the cassette. The only issue is shipping is insanely slow. Took a month to get it. They shipped it right away but it must have been put on a paddle boat.
  • 28 6
 Can someone politely ask pivot to fix the crank angle on their display bike?
  • 3 14
flag johnnygolucky (Mar 3, 2020 at 22:07) (Below Threshold)
 A.D.D. is fun.
  • 19 3
 @johnnygolucky: O.C.D.?
  • 1 0
 At least make it parallel to the lower chain if not horizontal, right?
  • 1 0
 There is also a bike photobombing it in the background.
  • 13 0
 POC...I swear that's the sound of someone's bare head colliding with a concrete pavement. I know that POC make a very good stackhat but I just can't get past that sound.
  • 4 0
 I'd be way more inclined to buy their helmets if they didn't have all that information written on the back. I'm pretty sure it's not a decal you can peel off as well. That was literally my determining factor in buying a new snow helmet over the winter, got a Giro instead I feel like it's the equivalent of eating a sandwhich with the nutrition facts dyed into the bread. Just looks ugly as hell. If other people like it though, to each their own I guess. If POC is in love with it, I'd be cool if it was inside the helmet somewhere
  • 8 0
 I think Pivot needs a new Average Joe ambassador. Saying Eddie piloted a bike to victory, says nothing about the bike. Eddie made the 8-ball go fast! Put me on that bike and it goes fast, now thats saying something about the bike!
  • 2 0
 Didn't the Privateer get a Pivot Firebird?
And was not noticeably faster than his amateur season the year before on a (very nice) bike he bought himself?
  • 10 0
 Super interested in the Radic calipers.
  • 2 0
 already sold out :/
  • 1 0
 @telephunke: That website is worth it just to look at the rotating model of the caliper though...
  • 2 0
 Good dudes that have put a fair bit of passion into it. Pretty rad, run your own lever choice and either mineral oil or dot5 (they plan to supply both sets of seals).

All the best lads !
  • 1 0
 Yeah me too I`d like to play golf with a 4 pistons club.
  • 3 1
 @Tmc98: "or dot5 (they plan to supply both sets of seals)."

I think a baby seal just cried......but seriously, I am not aware of a reason to not run mineral oil over DOT. Some delusion that it is "cleaner" aside. That said, I ride XC not downhill.
  • 1 0
 Absolutely beautiful
  • 3 3
 @RoadStain: I ride in the winter, mineral oil freezes, DOT does not.
  • 5 0
 @RoadStain: Mineral oil goes bad a lot faster than DOT, if it gets hot at least. Probably lasts forever if you can keep the heat down, DOT really does last forever in a mtb brake though.
  • 1 1
 @RoadStain: I took it as working with either as it gives you freedom to run whatever levers you want... For Shimano put in the mineral oil seals, Sram the opposite.
  • 3 0
 @RoadStain: They offer both so you can combine them with whatever levers you may have laying around, as they don't offer their own levers yet.

@skerby: Well my experience tells me quite the oposite. DOT is hydrophilic and thus gets diluted through air moisture, as long as you aren't running steel braided hoses. This added water leads to a lower boiling and freezing point and also adds fluid volume which leads to the brakes being overfilled.
On the other side, I've seen multiple Shimano brakes 5+ years after their last bleed still going strong and feeling great.
  • 1 3
 @NickBosshard: That makes sense. Being new to MTN, and as an avid Shimano hater (Campy on the road)....well, I hate Shimano, hate hate hate Shimano. After due dilligence and a bit of research....I have Eagle on the MTN with XTR brakes.....
  • 6 0
 @RoadStain: Ha! you said Avid Shimano hater!! So which one is it? Or do you ride Formula?
  • 4 0
 The lightest brakes until all the lovely mud-catching holes clog and clump the clay directly onto the disk surface like a pez dispenser.
  • 2 0
 @sam-swag-g: Sold out or not yet in production?
  • 1 0
 @sam-swag-g: Still yet to enter pre-order i believe
  • 9 0
 Box gimmie that ride 9, but 9-50 or 10-50 range, and cheaper than XTR
  • 5 0
 Their Box Three Prime 9 cassette comes in a 11-50, and it's $75. Still on preorder though.
  • 8 1
 O.G. Heckler.
  • 2 1
 O.D. - original dragster
  • 6 0
 @aidenoliver that's a Banshee Prime.....not Titan ????
  • 1 0
 How do you tell them apart anyway?
  • 2 2
 @Ttimer: Good question. Maybe by the dimension written on the tire? LOL
  • 3 0
 @Ttimer: The position of the rocker due to the shorter shock length on the Prime. And the fact that a shorter travel fork is fitted.
Good call filthy kiwi hound
  • 4 0
 Good eyes, it is indeed a prime. Other than all the geometry changes and different rear triangle construction, the rocker has different cutout shape (and is says prime on top tube if you can see it, haha)
  • 4 0
 Cleaning: cheap pump sprayer from walmart. I use that trailside to get the major mud and dirt off the bike and then wash it properly at home.
  • 2 0
 Love the looks of the caliper. But this may have gone too far. Remember the high end calipers are always forged to make them more rigid. Even a cheap cast alloy caliper may be more rigid than a 3D printed one, especially made of so little metal. I wish to be proved wrong though.
  • 3 0
 Is that fox/marz have a crown/uppers from a new sr suntour durolux..!?!? What's up with the crown color and the damper adjuster..if so that's one mut of a fork....
  • 1 1
 The Axion is very nice and light however I dont think it fits as well as the Tectal, and it doesn't manage sweat as well, however this could be due to the spin pads vs normal ones. Good helmet but I would probably recommend going with the spinless Tectal for pretty much the same price.
  • 4 0
 Must be the first ironic fork.
  • 4 0
 Left me thinking about putting Marzocchi Z1 stickers on a orange Fox 36. I would do it!
  • 4 0
 That 9 speed box is sexy.
  • 4 2
 Serious questions here. What's everyone's opinion or prediction on the 9 speed drivetrain success? Will it just be a novel or niche product for those that want to stand out?
  • 2 4
 Yup, totally impractical in my opinion.
  • 3 1
 I would have this on a hardtail where I want something more simple and less susceptible to mud etc. (and cheaper/lighter?). I run Shimano 12 speed on my trail bike.
  • 2 1
 All we need is 6. These crazy kids....
  • 12 0
 In my humble opinion, 9 speed was the pinnacle of reliability and durability. It was just the 11-34 limitation (or rather my legs and lungs) that led me to upgrade to 10 then 11 speed drivetrains. I'd take the rage of 11/12 with the strength and reliability of 9 any day--if it turns out to be as tough and reliable as the old 9-speed Shimano/SRAM stuff was.
  • 3 1
 @VtVolk: when you are finished yelling at clouds....try Eagle......
  • 3 0
 @RoadStain: My most recent bike purchase came with NX Eagle. It felt fine riding around the parking lot and clicking through the gears. As soon as I got it home I immediately pulled it off and installed XT 11 speed. PM me if you want a great deal on some new-take-off fancy Eagle stuff.
  • 1 5
flag RoadStain (Mar 4, 2020 at 12:58) (Below Threshold)
 @VtVolk: Funny, I got my bike with Shimano and never ran it - went right to Eagle....(for no better reason than I hate Shimano). That said, now that I have put on XTR brakes and pedals....well, a Rotor Kapic crank, shocks, bars, stem, post (non-dropper), wheels.........may go and put XTR on it (wtih out microspline). I reached into the dark side, may as well go all in - never, not ever on a road bike however.
  • 2 3
 Some people care about a consistent feel and rhythm when pedaling certain sections of trail. I'm talking about fire road climbs, XC type trails, flowy sections that need some pedaling etc. You lose ability that with big old gaps in gear ratios, and it can be hard to find a good sweet spot, when pedaling. It's not just a roadie thing. So I say thumbs down on wide range, small gear number drive trains! This isn't the 90s.
  • 3 0
 @mybaben: while it may not suit you, it will suit others. So having a choice is the key element, there should be options for both.
  • 2 0
 @Braindrain: I agree. By all means, feel free to have big awkward gaps in your ratios! Wink
  • 6 2
 #MPGA Makepedalinggreatagain
  • 3 0
 I've got a Z1 bomber kicking around in the ol' bike shack, maybe I can make me one of those Fox forks too?
  • 2 2
 What Fox has been doing with Marzocchi is just ridiculous.
  • 4 2
 original heckler not some bloody ebike ,, sick to death of ebikes being rammed down our throats its as bad as bloody 29ers i dont want that either
  • 2 1
 Has someone come to your home and forced you to buy one at gunpoint?
  • 4 0
 Banshee's Prime looks solid. Proper looking geo. Do review Pinkbike!
  • 3 0
 Why don’t they ever show the front of fornication helmet?
  • 2 0
 Original vs new Santa Cruz Heckler... which do you prefer?

This second thing is NOT a bike!
  • 1 0
 The old heckler doesn't stand a chance!!...not because it doesn't have a motor...but because it's missing part of it's drivetrain!
  • 2 0
 60 grams!!! That just blew my mind Eek
  • 5 3
 Original Heckler vs Moped
  • 1 0
 Can anyone tell me what brand of water bottle cage is on the Banshee Titan?
  • 2 0
 does anyone else remember the axs 7 spd we saw a while back?
  • 2 0
 Battery powered fun, kinda like your moms.................
  • 1 0
 Hey POC, when are you guys going to make a full face, trail helmet with proper ventilation?! Late to the game yo!
  • 1 0
 That caliper! Hot! And not from braking friction. I look forward to seeing those in the market.
  • 1 0
 Tell us more about that new Fox fork and 3D printed brake caliber!!!!!!
  • 1 4
 seriously who is buying bike cleaning products? just piss into a bottle - put the cap on and shake that bitch until foamy then lather it onto your bike all over. Once your done your bike smells like piss and is still dirty, your done! now ride.
  • 1 0
 I want that 11,8 speed, oh wait... ????

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