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Downhill Tech Randoms - Leogang World Cup 2024

Jun 7, 2024
by Nick Bentley  


Nekos new steel front triangle looks ing fresh
Neko Mulally's fresh steel front triangle.

Asa Vermette is still running a aluminium front in all its raw glory
Asa Vermette is still running an aluminum front triangle in all its raw glory.

There was plenty of wheel building going on during track walk day that s for sure
There was plenty of wheel building going on during track walk.

Fresh brake bleed on Troys bike
Fresh brake bleed on Troy Brosnan's bike.

The MS Intense pits are a little bit fancy.
The MS Intense pits are a bit fancy.

Some fancy bike stands in the Rogue Racing pits
Some nice bike stands in the Rogue Racing pits

The new Protaper stem in the wild
The new Protaper stem in the wild.

Frame change for Danny hart this weekend going to a medium frame from a large.
Frame change for Danny Hart this weekend - he's going to a medium frame from a large.

Freshly serviced forks for Ryan Pinkerton
Freshly serviced forks for Ryan Pinkerton

No often you see the Sram Service closed but with enduro and DH this weekend the guys at Sram were flat out.
No often you see the SRAM Service closed, but with enduro and DH this weekend the guys at SRAM were flat out.

Lots of work in the Zerode pits with both Taylor and Sam Racing hardline last weekend.
Lots of work in the Zerode pits with both Taylor Vernon and Sam Blenkinsop racing Hardline last weekend.

Will a belt drive bike win a world cup
Will a belt drive bike win a World Cup?

Fresh paint for Saracen
Fresh paint for Saracen.

out with the green bikes and in with these blue ones.
Out with the green bikes and in with these blue ones.

Cut mud spikes could be the one for the weekend with the changing weather
Cut mud spikes could be the one for the weekend with the changing weather

Some new suspension in the Crestline pits.
Some new suspension in the Crestline pits.

whats not to like about shiny tools
What's not to like about shiny tools?

There s a slight modification to Manitou s DH shocks for teams here at Leogang. They have done some machining to increase the surface area for the seal to engage in the main piston allowing the seal to engage further too.
There's a slight modification to Manitou's DH shocks for teams here at Leogang. They have done some machining to increase the surface area for the seal to engage in the main piston, allowing the seal to engage further too.

Plenty of Manitou shocks in for service to
Manitou shocks in for service.

This new Protaper stem look looks to be alot more robust then the old one.
This new Protaper stem.

and wow was there alot
The golden fork stack.

Roger Vieira is back at the World Cup and has to put plenty of work in on the bike this weekend after smashing tons of laps in Schladming in the rain.
Roger Vieira is back at the World Cup and has to put plenty of work in on the bike this weekend after smashing tons of laps in Schladming in the rain.

Roger also has started adding weight to the bottom of his GT he says around 500g but it didn t look to scientific when it went on
Roger also has started adding weight to the bottom of his GT; he says around 500g but it didn't look too scientific when it went on.

Prototype Kenda s in the NS pit
Prototype Kenda's in the NS pit

Not all pits are the same. There are plenty of privateers still alive and kicking at the World Cup
Not all pits are the same. There are plenty of privateers still alive and kicking at the World Cup.

The Kellys bike is a little different
The Kellys bike is a little different.

A bit of rubber hose and some heat shrink just to quieten down the brake hoses
A bit of rubber hose and some heat shrink just to quiet down the brake hoses

some fresh mineral oil on its way in
Some fresh mineral oil on its way in.

Shimano s new pro bleed kit with a little addition from Bernard s mechanic he added a bit of wire to hold the hose just that little bit tighter on the caliper.
Shimano's new pro bleed kit with a little addition from Bernard Kerr's mechanic: he added a bit of wire to hold the hose just that little bit tighter on the caliper.

Bernards bike had a full rebuild after hardline.
Bernard's bike had a full rebuild after Hardline.

Bearings minus their seals in the pivot pits.
Bearings minus their seals in the Pivot pits.

The Gamax DH bike really has some of the most beautiful machining out there.
The Gamux DH bike really has some of the most beautiful machining out there.

In some of the smaller teams riders have to pitch in on the tools to. Dan Slack just putting the finishing touches to his brakes
On some of the smaller teams riders have to pitch in on the tools too. Dan Slack just putting the finishing touches to his brakes.

The TRP gold looks so good in the sun
The TRP gold looks so good in the sun.

Fresh clean fluid
Fresh clean fluid

Not all toolboxes are equal.
Not all toolboxes are equal.

More hardline rebuilds in the forbidden pits.
More Hardline rebuilds in the Forbidden pits.

They had the frames striped right down
They had the frames stripped right down...
and placed all over the work bench
...and then placed all over the work bench.

Final tweaks to get settings back to where they should be
Final tweaks to get settings back to where they should be

Buttercups ready to go
Buttercups ready to go

Some boxxer insides

Service cards keep everything on track at Sram
Service cards keep everything on track at SRAM.

Rear shocks get plenty of love to.
Rear shocks get plenty of love too.

some well used tools
Some well used tools.


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87 Comments
  • 172 0
 These are my favorite articles because there's less words and more pictures and I mostly like looking at pictures
  • 79 0
 I also like crayons.
  • 39 0
 The taste?
  • 4 0
 Agreed. Plus all the machined parts, toolboxes, and work processes. I feel like a med student shadowing a surgeon.
  • 5 0
 @Brave1i1toaster: What's your favorite crayon flavor?
  • 7 0
 @jgoldfield: Orange, duh
  • 33 0
 Knipex all around. After years of cheaping out, I finally bought it. Should have done it years ago.
  • 3 3
 I also have the Knipex pliers, Wera Allen keys and old tooth brushes in my toolbox. I guess that makes me a pro mechanic?

But seriously : Knipex pliers can break, they do wonders but remember they're not the same as a spanner. Don't be stupid like me
  • 7 0
 @Uuno: If you break a Knipex you were way beyond intended use.
2 m extension welded on a 180 knipex?
  • 2 0
 @xice: don't give anyone ideas...
  • 21 5
 Contentious comment.... Them gold fox forks are fxxkin horrible looking
  • 20 3
 Actually the orange ones aren't much better
  • 8 3
 Better than orange
  • 10 0
 'There's a slight modification to Manitou's DH shocks for teams here at Leogang. They have done some machining to increase the surface area for the seal to engage in the main piston, allowing the seal to engage further too."

Wut?

Interested in what that actually means since I have that shock.
  • 5 7
 A lot of these riders get modifications that affect performance by 1-2% under only the harshest of conditions...unless you're pushing a shock to what 1-2% of riders can do (like UCI DH pros), it's very unlikely these mods would be effective for the average rider (like me, maybe you, i.e. the other 99-98%).

Additional seal engagement is likely only required when oil- and air-temps are super high and pressures inside under compression are at their highest...likely something you or I likely won't experience.
  • 2 0
 @therealmancub: sounds like Manitou needs to make Mara Pro coil.
  • 2 0
 It sounds like someone doesn't really know what they are talking about.
  • 1 0
 I think he means shock body, not piston
  • 1 0
 @zyoungson: Pictured is the damper body and it threads into the underside of the main air piston - nothing incorrect with the photo caption. The "seal" mentioned is an o-ring under the main piston.
  • 1 0
 @therealmancub: It should say air piston. Main piston implies that its the main piston in the damper.
  • 1 0
 @zyoungson: We can agree to disagree; Air shock / Air Piston / Main Piston. Damper Assy / Damper body / Damper Piston.

If we were discussing a coil I would assume main piston = damper piston, but we have two pistons in an air shock.
  • 1 0
 @therealmancub: Sorry, you are wrong. The main piston is in the damper. The piston in an air shock is called an air piston. To mix up terms is arse about face.
  • 13 0
 Finally, Danny is back on a M frame.
I bet on a top 5 (if it’s wet)
  • 12 0
 I would love to see more privateer pits, camps and rigs.
  • 12 0
 A privateer pit is a bike stuffed in the back of a van with a privateer sleeping beside it.
  • 9 1
 You'll never convince me that screwdrivers with see-through yellow handles are not functionally better than other screwdrivers.
  • 6 0
 I was convinced that wera screwdrivers were the future. Then I realised that I only use cheap ass slotted screwdrivers as a thing to hit with a hammer and to fix broken toilets in budget hotels on the road. Tips from a pro mechanic.
  • 4 0
 That steel FW frame is one simple and sexy bike. Love how the skinny tubes looks with the carbon rear end,I would be happy to ride that thing hehehe.
On the other side Gamux bike looks mint but being and absolute alien compared to the FW bike. Love both bikes,those bikes would be my first choice if I could pick any bike of the DH WC. (If you need a slow rider to test your bikes I´m open hehehe)
DH bikes are awesome in general,have a ton of different bikes looking very very good.
  • 7 1
 Can a belt drive win a World Cup they ask…legends says someone won at this mountain without a chain.
  • 2 0
 Anyone else notice the new TRP lever assemblies? The pinch bolt is on the top, the plate that over the piston (I assume I've never taken one off) now covers the bleed screw and there is an additional adjustment on the lever itself. Has this been covered and I missed it?
  • 1 0
 I was looking for this comment. Surprised there wasn't more mention of it.
  • 4 0
 HaHa I thought I was the only lazy one to match a bent rim with a new one and move 1 spoke at a time to the new rim.
  • 9 0
 This is pretty standard practice if you're re-using the spokes. Efficient.
  • 5 0
 There's at least 3 of us now.
  • 4 0
 Only way to do it, especially when your on the clock, or when you only have so much time after dinner to drink beer and rebuild a wheel…
  • 1 0
 @dougfs: Decline Mag even had a solid how to guide on rim swaps. Incredibly helpful for my first time. Not as common with carbon rims these days but it’s a thing
  • 1 0
 I've done it several times. Seems to be absolute common sense if it's just a damaged rim
  • 5 0
 I’m looking for a toolbox that says, “daddy likes leather.”
  • 1 0
 Can anyone tell me where I can get that gorgeous bike repair stand in pic 6 (Captioned "Some nice bike stands in the Rogue Racing pits")? I checked Clorofilla's website and none of their repair stands on there look like that.
  • 14 11
 While fashionable to dump on the Podium Gold forks...I've finally seen some in person and they really are pretty slick.
  • 8 1
 I like the Fox gold. But I also liked the Pistachio color. Anything but boring black or red.
  • 7 1
 I saw a load at Morzine last week... Thought the opposite that they just don't really 'go' on any bike I've seen.
  • 8 0
 @bigtim: I dont think the point is for them to "go" with the bike, its to stand out.
Point is we notice them, they get photographed, when we see them in the wild, we take a second look (is that so-and-so pro rider???)

It was the same with the orange

we notice, we associate with pro rider, our monkey brain thinks "better", and we covet them.....Then buy a bike with a set of kashima coated 36's,

Job done
  • 4 1
 I don't like that the gold is slightly off from the kashima. Kashima (maybe not actual Kashima but paint matched closer) lowers though, would've been insane.
  • 1 0
 It's vastly better then orange.
  • 6 2
 The paint on the Saracen is a thing of beauty.
  • 1 1
 @Sscottt: Pity the cable routing ain't.....
  • 5 0
 The logo looks like the document file icon from an open source office productivity suite.
  • 2 1
 @Sscottt: After seeing the thumbnail, I went straight to the Saracen when I opened the article, but found myself disappointed with the close-up pic. I'm guessing it's a wrap? (or Decal?)
Simply does not compare with the old KLEIN (and others) fade jobs........
  • 1 0
 If everyone is always cutting the knobs off the tires, why not make tire with the same tread pattern and different height knobs for different conditions? There has to be better things for mechanics to be doing, no?
  • 3 0
 Chris Hauser - please wash the fork next time
  • 1 0
 I remember the Giant mechanic bleeding a brake from lever to caliper when we ALL done it from caliper to the lever... What happen to him?
  • 3 0
 Legend has it his brakes failed one day and he's still going, unable to stop.
  • 2 0
 I have a stupid question. What is that tool on the far right of the final picture? Looks like some sort of spreader tool.
  • 3 0
 You don’t want to know what that’s for.
  • 1 0
 Might be a shock spring compression clamp
  • 3 0
 There is a spring behind the main seal head on some Rock Shox shocks that needs to be compressed when doing a full service and that is the tool to compress it with, and keep it compressed until the service is finished. They call it the Counter Measure Spring. The Sram tech has modified it to make it easier to use.
Check out page 37 of this manual
www.sram.com/globalassets/document-hierarchy/service-manuals/rockshox/rear-suspension/gen.0000000006263-rev-a-2018-2021-super-deluxe-coil-english.pdf
  • 1 0
 Besides the Ohlins I would love to know how they decide on what colors are going on the forks? Anybody saying I love the RockShox red or Fox gold? Please raise your hand.
  • 2 0
 Cut Maxxis Wetscreams??? Why? I thought they created the Shorty to avoid that!
  • 2 0
 What happened to the frameworks bonded aluminum tubes and lug frames?
  • 1 0
 I think they intended that frame to be a test bed, but were going to be racing welded AL frames this year, except for the new steel frame I guess.
  • 2 0
 eBay? Craigslist? Marketplace?
  • 2 0
 @ReformedRoadie: Oh, right, stolen.
  • 4 3
 Ride a $10k light bike and then tape 500 grams of weight to it. Makes sense.
  • 7 2
 Yes it does if you want to alter how it rides.
  • 5 3
 Somewhere, the engineer that really battled to whittle grams without compromising strength or stiffness is weeping into his CAD station.
  • 2 0
 @Glenngineer: Hopefully he's currently adding a can of beer to the final design drawings. A can of beer weighs 357 grams. Might have to go with a tallboy can.
  • 6 0
 @AndrewFleming: what about light beer?
  • 8 0
 @idecic: 375 grams of light beer is obviously lighter than 375 grams of heavy beer. Because it's lighter.
  • 2 0
 @idecic: Light beer means he doesn't need to add any weights to his bike!
  • 11 1
 Counterpoint: if you design the lightest possible structure that meets your requirements, it allows you to add mass back in at the locations where it can do the most to improve ride characteristics as opposed to leaving mass in places it isn't helping you at all. Talked to some F1 engineers when I toured Williams a few years back, and they optimize the crap out of every component, and then end up adding ballast back to get their weight balance dialed. Better to have that weight low and in the middle of the chassis rather than in a suspension upright that hasn't been fully optimized. Granted, the benefit of that is probably a lot more noticeable in F1 than downhill mtb
  • 7 0
 Should’ve used 500g of feathers instead of lead for the weight savings.
  • 2 0
 @jgoldfield: In F1 they add weight to reach the limit. Of course they do that as low in the car as possible, and move it further to the back or front to help balance, but nobody there would ever add even one gram that was not required by the regulation.
  • 2 0
 @FuzzyL: yes but I think the point he was making about F1 cars is that they wouldn’t need to add any weight back in the first place if they never painstakingly shaved it out of other parts of the car first. It would be easier and cheaper to leave all the parts heavy and unoptimized.
  • 1 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: Yup, exactly. Their systems engineers target having all the subsystems at a weight budget under the rule limit and add it back in as ballast, rather than targeting the subsystems to be equal to the weight limit
  • 1 0
 @dirtyburger: haha. Underrated post!
  • 1 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: That is pretty much correct - the difference I see is, that if a F1 team ran their own DH squad, you would never ever see them add weight anywhere on the bike, but find ways to save even more of it in the places it was least tolerable from a balance perspective.
  • 2 0
 @TEAM-ROBOT: the optimal solution here is to drink the beer rather than tape it to the bike, still adding the weight either way Smile
  • 1 0
 That Deity grip in the Forbidden pits photo doesn't look familiar. Is it a prototype of a new grip? Accidental spy shot?
  • 1 1
 So, the protaper stem is the same stem with a one piece faceplate and the Kenda Proto is a Pinner. Hmmmm.
  • 1 0
 Realy cool to See all the details
  • 1 0
 Wooooooooooooooooooow.
  • 4 4
 The next time i look at a GT logo i'm gonna throw up...
  • 1 0
 That logo is def not as cool as the GT logo I had on my Mach One from 1984.
  • 1 2
 Dude, it's just 2 letters..







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