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Tech Randoms: Val Di Sole DH World Cup 2024

Jun 13, 2024
by Nick Bentley  

We took a trip around the pits at Round 4 of the Downhill World Cup at Val di Sole, Italy, to check out what teams were up to on track walk day.

just incase you didnt know not to pull brake leavers with out a wheel in the bike
Just in case you didn't know not to pull brake levers without a wheel in the bike.

worlds tiniest vice
Look at that cute little vice.

who will be the first to win on a gates belt and clame the gates prize
Who will be the first to win on a Gates belt and claim the Gates prize?

there is just something about this Zerode that always seems to get my attention
There is just something about this Zerode that always seems to get my attention.

ummm yeah we all know this happens
Nothing to see here...

Joe Breeden is going for all the stack hight he can this weekend.
Joe Breeden is going for all the stack height he can this weekend.

a need cable tidiying solution for intense
A neat cable tidying solution for Intense.

tame its time to revisit the tool boxes of the world cup mechanics
It's time to revisit the tool boxes of the World Cup mechanics.

Fresh links in from Cascade for the Crestline team
Fresh links in from Cascade for the Crestline team.

who dosnt like a fesh delivery of tires if the rain keeps up tacky chans may not be the tire of choice thoughh
Who doesn't like a fresh delivery of tires? If the rain keeps up Tacky Chans may not be the tire of choice, though.

fresh brake bleeds in the Atherton pit
Fresh brake bleeds in the Atherton pit.

world champs bike getting some love
World Champs bike getting some love.

only for race day well maybe not
Only for race day, well maybe not.

standard track walk day wheel builds
Standard track walk day wheel builds.

A set of Rux in for a full service
A set of Rux in for a full service.

plenty of service work happening in the SR Suntour pit
Plenty of service work happening in the SR Suntour pit

its all about the lube
It's all about the lube.

this is one way to stiffen up a bike
This is one way to stiffen up a bike.

a classic shimano 10 speed casset getting some love
A classic Shimano 10 speed cassette getting some love.

a little bit of chain oil goes a long way
A little bit of chain oil goes a long way.

Cube still useing the bolt on idler
Cube still using the bolt on idler.

i wonder where mille johnsets forks have gone

mmm thouse foma rings have seen some use
Those foam rings have seen some use.

all the notes you need for a sram tune up
All the notes you need for a SRAM tune up.

i found millie Johnsets fork

Srams lost and found box
SRAM's lost and found box

i feel suspension cleaner is gooing to be well used in the italian mud this weekend
If the rain persists this suspension cleaner could come in handy.

Jorden williams mehnanic cleaning up his rims with some wet and dry paper
Jordan Williams' mechanic cleaning up his rims with some wet and dry paper.

tire choice is going to be important with the rain here this weekend
Tire choice is going to be important with the rain here this weekend.

handl bleeding an ohlins shock is an air form
Hand bleeding an Ohlins shock.

this is a really neet set up though

back with the gray frames this weekend for Trek Factory racing
Back with the gray frames this weekend for Trek Factory racing.

will flight attendant and electic suspesnion make a big differnace at Val di sole like it did at leogang i doubt it but there is still plenty of it around in the pits
Will Flight Attendant and electronic suspension make a big difference at Val di Sole like it did at Leogang? Hard to say, but there is still plenty of it around in the pits.

beofre this contra when was the last time a steel bike was on the world cup podium
Before this Contra, when was the last time a steel bike was on the World Cup podium?

a little modifcation to the caliper mount to take a hayes brake
A little modification to the caliper mount to take a Hayes brake.

and a borrowed cover to from ahterton for hayes just to keep the mud and junk out of the rear caliper
And a borrowed cover from Atherton to keep the mud and junk out of the rear caliper.

when fitting Data acusition to a bike haveing plenty of of random screws helps make up some custome mounts
When fitting data acquisition to a bike, having plenty of random screws helps make up some custom mounts.

The Pivot prototype is still one of the most interesting bikes in the world cup pits
The Pivot prototype is still one of the most interesting bikes in the World Cup pits.

it must be track walk day as there are mechanics everywhere walking around with forks and shocks for service the cube team were up early to get to fox
It must be track walk day as there are mechanics everywhere walking around with forks and shocks for service. The Cube team were up early to get to Fox.

gold as far as the eye can see
Gold as far as the eye can see.

with out these litle cards all suspension service at the world cup would grind to a hult
Without these little cards all suspension service at the World Cup would grind to a halt.

Vali s bike getting a full rebuild post leogng
Vali's bike getting a full rebuild post Leogang.

a little bit of waight added for oisan
A little bit of weight added for Oisin.

full rebuilds for unior after a amazing weekend for them in leogang
Full rebuilds for Union after an amazing weekend for them in Leogang.

a raer siting of a no electronic shock
A rare sighting of a non-electronic shock.

Richie Rude is back for some DH fun this weekend
Richie Rude is back for some DH fun this weekend.

fresh bearings
Fresh bearings

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  • 110 4
 Let's go Richie!
  • 85 1
 "It's time to revisit the tool boxes of the World Cup mechanics." Yes, please!
  • 6 0
 Yes please!
  • 17 0
 @WTF-IDK: Dear @athertons, please share that 3D Print File ♥
  • 58 0
 Wouldn't the "Don't Pull" brake lever thingie be more functional if it had something behind the lever to actually prevent it from being pulled? Just spit-ballin' here...
  • 34 2
 Who is walking around in the team pits, randomly pulling levers?

Looks like they had to justify buying that 3D printer.
  • 10 0
 @FuzzyL: The lever pull on those Dominions is so light you have to pull it a few times to believe it
  • 18 0
 @FuzzyL: If bike shop sales floors, industry demos and other events are any indicator, lots of people pull brake levers for no reason. Wheel in or not.
  • 10 0
 or you know, just put one of those plastic bits in between the pads. seems more effective.
  • 4 0
 @jpcars10s: Guilty of doing that at the LBS...it really is insane how light the pull is.
  • 6 0
 Don’t let logic and common sense ruin the use of a good gadget.
  • 1 0
 @waxman: At trade shows with end consumers present, sure. It’s been a while since I’ve been to a World Cup, but I sincerely hope for the mechanics that it’s not the same there.
  • 1 0
 When you buy a new pair of Daominions they come with a little plastic block that fits behind the lever to prevent its movement...
  • 1 0
 @jpcars10s: Especially when the wheel is out.

That said, I'm pretty sure this is for the rider. You go faster if you don't brake.

@FuzzyL: Not sure whether it is actually an Atherton bike, but if it is then I don't think they really need that excuse.
  • 1 0
 @FuzzyL: They must have kids at home.
  • 41 0
 If those foam rings are considered as having seen some use then call me miles davis
  • 6 0
 Had a good self-depreciating laugh at that photo/caption
  • 16 0
 Yeah those foam rings are going back in at my house
  • 9 0
 It seems like these forks and shocks are being serviced every 5 minutes. I know this is elite level racing, but how many of these things do you think actually need a service?
  • 1 0
 @JonnyNorthmore: I think it will normally because they haven't been touched between rounds. Maybe a bit silly with a week gap, but if it's a month and there's tonnes of riding it makes sense. Plus why not. Removes a variable.
  • 1 0
 They've been used for 2 runs probably. Soak em in suspension fluid and get the dirt out and they're brand new.
  • 1 0
 @Glory831Guy: Probably most of the previous weekend so there's no surprises on the finals runs. They get power washed on the regular though so it may be worth it just to remove anything that gets blown past the wipers/seals.
  • 17 2
 "neat" cables tidying on the Intense? It's like the antithesis of flush-cut zip-ties on a boss: metal pointy things sticking out of a stuck on thing with the glue smearing around.
  • 4 0
 Seriously. Looks like a soup sandwich. I imagine they were after noise dampening but that looks like dookie.
  • 1 0
 It looks like some chain slap tape with a cut spoke bent and pushed through. Good idea not the best execution.
  • 17 0
 That Contra grabs my eyes everytime!!
  • 12 0
 I know the double rim is to line the spokes up when building a new one, but I can't help but crack up at the idea of someone running a dually. Call it Super Ultra Boost or something
  • 10 0
 Hopefully 169mm rear spacing.
  • 21 0
 Don't tell him about Sun DoubleWides...
  • 1 0
 When I first saw the real quick.
I thought who the heck is running a fatbike?! Ha. Ha.
On second look, I knew what was what.
  • 6 0
 @therealmancub: With 3" Gazzilodis...
  • 1 0
 Should take some creative rim taping to get that one so seal properly tubeless.
  • 2 0
 you should look up the history of fatbikes. This is how it all began back in the day.
  • 6 1
 Intense cable guide/fork bumper thing is creative, but I wouldn't have said neat. Those new M1s are so damn pretty I hope they have something better than that cooking for production... Also curious about that stack height.
  • 3 0
 The word neat has multiple meanings.
  • 5 0
 @sino428: in this instance they clearly meant that the mechanics were not adding any mixer to their drinks.
  • 1 0
 @Glenngineer : If these are needed to protect the frame against the fork, the ride is already finished.
  • 9 1
  • 6 0
 Now that's a damn fine mullet on the Union mechanic.
  • 2 0
 John Farnham OG style
  • 1 1
 We need to know what wheel size(s) he uses
  • 5 0
 "cube is still using the bolt on idler"

*looks over at ender 3*
  • 6 4
 "It's all about the lube" - Hm, yes and no. Without at least a little bit of a friction, you may as well be pumping into thin air.
  • 2 2
 You can lube those seals as much as you want and it will still seal.
  • 3 0
 The grub screws in the brake calliper mounts are an amazing idea, might have to mod my codes!
  • 1 0
 I have been contemplating that for quite a while now. Next time I have to pull them off, I may throw them on the drill press!
  • 2 0
 What is the grub screw doing?
  • 3 0
 @thedeathstar: it’s to align the calipers to the rotor easier. Genius idea by Hays. Really surprised nobody thought of it earlier.
  • 3 3
 @Chief2slo: because it doesn’t do anything. Moreso a pain in the ass, especially if they’ve not been cycled in ages, been packed full of dirt or hit. Aligning a caliper isn’t time consuming fiddling with a bunch of grub screws much more annoying.
  • 2 0
 The IS2000 standard is still best in that respect. At least for the home mechanic, not for the OEM bike manufacturer of course. Just reinstall the proper spacers every time you put the caliper back on (after for instance a lower leg service) and the caliper is aligned perfectly every single time and no way to whack it off-center.
  • 1 0
 @Chief2slo: I still don't get it. like align left to right? Just loosen the caliper mount bolts, squeeze brake lever, retighten. Takes 30 secs. That's the tried and true method. Or am I misunderstanding?
  • 2 0
 @yoimaninja: it prevents the drift that can happen when tightening, especially with the thicker rotors we have available. Incidentally, I’ve never been able to get a final alignment off of just squeezing brakes, I’ve always had to fine tune it afterwards.
  • 1 0
 @Chief2slo: Probably you're already doing this right but just to be sure, don't completely tighten one bolt with the other one still fairly loose but alternate between the two until you're there (6Nm, at least for the brakes I'm using). If the torque of the bolt head of the one bolt applies so much torque on the caliper that the other end shifts under that bolt head, either the friction under one bolt head is too high or that under the other one is too little. If so, the quickest solution would be to switch around so finish tightening them in the opposite order. Also, make sure the contact area between bolt head and caliper is clean.
  • 4 2
 I don’t think riders should be allowed to race using tyres from anyone but who they are sponsored by. It’s false advertising at best
  • 1 0
 That's up for the sponsor to decide, I'd say. Unless they're being creating and are trying to get people to buy their shady VAXvic brand tires, I don't think anyone will be mislead. Whoever is being misled deserves to be misled. How many people bought Muddy Fox bikes just because some quick family has been racing their bikes?
  • 1 0
 Love them calliper covers for the brakes. Be mint if you could buy them from Atherton as I defo would. UK riding conditions tends to be sloppy most of the year so if prevents crap getting into your pads.
  • 2 1
 If Gamux wants to get me a bike, I can give that Gates bounty a go. I might not be the fastest, but definitely the best looking!
  • 1 0
 Get ready for just about everyone's FL picks to get blown away on this one. Even the mud specialists are likely going down at VdS.
  • 3 0
 That Zerode giving me Transition TR250/450 vibes.
  • 4 0
  • 3 0
 That mini-vice is waiting to be picked up by his Miami Vice.
  • 2 0
 "Look at that cute little vice." I'm not sure why someone would find vises immoral. lol
  • 2 0
 All the paint runs on that cube reminds me of their production bikes lol.
  • 1 0
 Is Cube using a floating rear brake or is that horizontal rod under the left chainstay for telemetry?
  • 1 0
 It's looks like its a floating mount to lower anti rise. I think they started doing that with Danny and its rider to rider whether they prefer high or low anti rise values on their bikes.
  • 2 0
 One of those Trek's had a Hopey Steering Damper.
  • 1 0
 Neat trick for the wheel build. Stealing that one.
  • 2 0
 Ive never built a wheel before and tried it. Seems like it went ok, but i brought it to my shop just to give it a once over. Dont want it to explode randomly while riding. Theyre doing other maintenance so im just waiting to hear how much more i have to learn.
  • 3 3
 If all you're doing is replacing a rim with a like-for-like ERD, you can also just use masking tape to hold the lacing pattern, remove all the nipples, pull the big 32-legged spider out and drop it in place in the new rim and put the nipples back through. Takes a fraction of the time
  • 3 0
 @codfather1234: I think less can go wrong this way, no risk of scratching up the rim or the 32 legged spider shifting around. I can see a bit of time saving, but not a massive one, ultimately you are still just unscrewing and retightening 32 spokes in both methods.
  • 1 0
 Anyone know what brand/model of truing stand they are using? Look relatively compact.
  • 2 0
 @IMeasureStuff: Feedback Sports truing stand
  • 1 0
 Actually, as far as I know this is the standard approach when replacing a rim like for like. I rarely need to replace a rim only and when I do, I often tend to shop around to see what rim I want now. The polar opposite of what's going on in the racing circuit where the components have already been chosen and if something is worn/damaged and needs to be replaced, it will be replaced by the exact same model. That said, of course there are several rims and hub combinations which end up requiring the same spoke length. So even if you don't get the exact same rim as you used to have, you could still use this approach.
  • 8 9
 I'm not sure how Richie Rude can even ride with a twelve year old groupset. Won't be long before Saint M820s are older than some of the junior riders!
  • 5 1
 if it ain't broke don't fix it, Saint is still the benchmark for stuff that just works, why change it.
  • 1 0
 The same technology is used is newer group sets. They list built is right the first time. Although saying that I believe that a new one might be on the horizon
  • 1 0
 @enduroNZ: third time. Don't forget that there was a Saint 800 with a two piston caliper. I've never seen one on all the 1000s of bikes I've worked on. I don't think they were very good. Then there was the Saint 810 which had the open top reservoir and a four piston caliper that looks similar to the 820 that's still popular today.
  • 3 2
 Little adv of haes, every third photo showing dominions
  • 4 0
  • 1 0
 How many Magura's, Maven's and Saints do you see? You're simply seeing more in the paddock..
  • 1 1
 What's that thing attached to the bottom of the Ohlins coil shock reservoir?
  • 1 0
 Brosnan might have an on-the-fly tunable suspension.
  • 1 0
 Appears to be a 42T Shimano cassette...who is running that?
  • 1 0
 For those bikes they put on the turbo trainers?
  • 1 0
 I need a Troy Lee Design Rock Shox pen in my pencil case.
  • 1 0
 I need one but then with some proper Troy Lee artwork on it.

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