Pardus showed a wild looking prototype carbon fiber 29er at Outdoor Demo with a 130-millimeter-travel suspension system that is totally enclosed in the frame. Its shock is nested inside the oversize, semi-rectangular downtube and operated by a linkage beneath the bottom bracket shell. A removable carbon cover that doubles as a bash guard conceals the shock, while allowing for quick access to make adjustments. The low-slung suspension configuration makes room for full sized water bottles within the front triangle and keeps the mass of the bike lower than most. The yet unnamed AM/trail bike is said to weigh between 25 and 26 pounds and is in final testing phases. Reportedly, Pardus will introduce the new machine to North American retailers as early as Spring, 2018.
Unless you work for a well-known bike brand, you probably haven't heard the Pardus name before. It's a relatively small (by Asian standards) carbon frame and component maker that produces some of the best quality products in China for select OEM customers - brands which are on the tips of many rider's tongues. Some time ago, Pardus decided that they should launch their own range of elite-level mountain bikes.
The designer that they selected to flesh out their first trail bike was Steve Domahidy - the man who co-founded Niner Bikes and more recently, launched
his own brand. He also works as a hired gun for bike makers in need of expertise. The collaboration between Pardus and Domahidy has given birth to the futuristic looking long-travel trail bike that will surely turn some heads.
Shill: First we get them used to the oversized frame design, we introduce a normal bike with an unnecessary guard around the shock, which looks exactly like our prototype ebike.
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Or possibly just "people other than himself"....
Therefore, if a frame has no space for a bottlecage, I am not going to buy it. Why should I, if there's plenty of other great competitors, that manage to offer both?
There's some other people around, that actually care about it, so I wouldn't call it ridiculous.
I ran bottles for a lot of years. Got tired of it. Muddy mouth pieces due to location, difficult to pull out of fully frames, never enough on hot days, and you still have to have some sort of under seat pack crammed with trail side essentials. With my pack, I carry as much water as I think I need, spare tube, tire tool, multi tool, pump, snacks, a place to put trail maps, phones, keys, etc. All in one convenient location!
Why should that be ridiculous?
Simple question: As someone who cares about it, why sould I buy a a frame, that doesn't fit a bottle, if there's 10 different frames in the same category, that ride just as good, cost the same AND provide space for a bottle?
Obiously I wouldn't pick a crappy frame over a great one, just because of this, but as long as there are frames making both possible without sacrifice, I see no reason.
A lot of I my riding is about 1-2 hours. For such a short time, a single bottle is enough, my phone and keys are in my pockets and the spare tube + multitool is in a seat pack thats tightly attached to my seattube & top tube due to my dropper post, without any rattling or getting in the way. My pump is mounted to my bottle cage aswell.
Furthermore, even if I am on a longer ride, wearing a backpack, the bottle means almost a liter less on my back.
My fullsuspension trailbike lets me fit a regular bottle without any issues and I would not want to miss it.
NO IT'S NOT
"For the thousandth time, IT'S NOT AN E-Bike."
Bold Cycles did it clever, the purple lines shows air flow through the frame to the shock.
Yeah for the first time I feel sorry for RC
Sure it's a wonder everything's not on fire, on account of how we have soooo much sunlight over here!!
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"The ugliest bike at outdoor demo"
Stop making freaking bicycles look like morotcycles, that is only appealing to age group 6-12.
Can't imagine setting up sag on this no-sense two wheels thing.
And you all moan about the site going downhill nowadays? Maybe look at yourselves first.
Also I fail to see where in that post I said anything 'pro e-bike'..... I said stuff about the people whinging about them, but if you think those two are exclusive then you need to have a think about things.
My apologies for painting you with the pro-ebike brush.
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Shouldn't bike makers already have 'expertise'?
Working with CF means you can get smooth flowing lines and blended radii, and avoid the hard angles that concentrate stress flow in materials
E-bikes will cost us trail access. And it sucks to watch a sport that I love self-destruct.
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Besides the fact they are overall slower, peopole riding them are lacking skills, and no fun to ride, they can blast pretty fast on smooth uphills/flats.