Whether it's the music you always play when driving the shuttle truck, what's in your headphones while pedaling up, or just a mid-2000s movie section that's been stuck in your head ever since, it's probably fair to say that most of us have some albums, songs, or musicians that will always be tied to mountain biking in one way or another. Episode 118 sees Henry, Kazimer, and I chat about the songs forever on our two-wheeled playlists, why Sail by Awolnation is the best, and if we listen to music while riding our bikes.
What music do you associate with mountain biking?
THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 118 - MUSIC AND MOUNTAIN BIKING April 21st, 2022
Featuring a rotating cast of the editorial team and other guests, the Pinkbike podcast is a weekly update on all the latest stories from around the world of mountain biking, as well as some frank discussion about tech, racing, and everything in between.
I find that I lose situational awareness if I listen to music while riding or skiing or walking….
I can think of one good reason to listen to music while riding a popular singletrack frequented by joggers. They might not hear you approaching, especially if they are looking down instead of ahead. A few times it has saved me from a collision on a blind corner.
Also, it provides inspiration and motivation.
I also have my red blinky light on the trails hoping that it will confuse the bears/cougars.
I have to say its also pretty damn annoying when you come up behind people (dog walkers, hikers or slower riders too) on trail with earbuds in. After I say "can I pass on the left" for the umpteenth time I realize this guy/gal has no idea what's going on around them and sure enough they have music playing in their ears. Sometimes people are shocked or even angry that I come up on them without them knowing. This is a bit of a safety issue and people need all their senses to be aware of hazards on trail.
People come to a wilderness setting for some tranquility and to enjoy the nature or trails. Take an hour or two away from the constant fire hose of media and open up your eyes and ears. You never know what you'll discover.
I disagree that everyone goes to the wilderness to get away/absorb nature.
I think some people go there because the trails are there where they can ride their bikes.
Take home message: Don't play your music for all to hear, its really irritating and be self-aware on trail.
The scene is me and some buds were chilling at the top of the climb before a big, popular descent. Most people do the 5min shuttle to get to the top, but we had climbed the access road and were catching our breath before dropping in. From the parking lot, we see 5 or so certfied® dads start rolling our way. They had just lifted their e-mtb's out of a $60k Toyota Tundra with a 3in lift. It's a common sight in this neck of the woods, where the average home value within a couple of miles of the trail is well into the millions.
So these dad-bod dudes come rolling by, a nice train of 5 or 6 riders into the 'black diamond' (manicured flow jump line with tables and small gaps) trail that we had all come up to hit. 2nd to last dude in line, clear as day, yells into the universe 'SIRI, play SAIL by AWOLNATION!!' and we all absolutely hit the floor laughing. Normally, I'd think this was a joke, but judging by the man, this guy was entirely serious and really wanted to listen to the sweet sounds of dub EDM on his way to casing every single jump.
Anyways, that's my SAIL story. Thanks for listening.
Do you think the people that tell stories like this have the self awareness to pick out who is the douche bags in that scenario?
A bunch of dudes out enjoying bikes. How dare they?
I promise, the cringiest thing in the story is yelling, publically, surrounded by friends, "SIRI, play SAIL by AWOLNATION"... Not me and my friends earning our descent time and having a good laugh at the absurdity of a 2010 EDM hit still being relevant in 2021(when this story happened).
Side note: if I ever have headphones on a descent, it's cheesy yacht rock. Hall & Oats, Steve Winwood, Steely Dan.
@hpman83: the culture differences also impact how to find good info on trails to ride, whether the region has "open secret trails" like Santa Cruz, CA or legal trail networks. However, I do feel like @mikelevy gets the royal treatment if he shows up somewhere looking to ride vs. what locals might show you or me on a rental bike with a passport!
Favourite quotes/songs - Peaceful Day - Pennywise from the Psychosis Segment in Seasons “It’s gnarly out there boy it’s silt”
RJD2 - Since We Last Spoke - Berrecloth in ROAM
I typically still turn them off when I'm headed downhill on 2-way trails, certainly highly-trafficked ones. Startling hikers or climbing bikers is never fun.
Get Henry to stuff his Chinchilla cheekbones into a test pair
When riding bikes i have no need for music and only get annoyed by those bluetooth box dudes... Just get headphones for f**k sake!
Sail by Awolnation just mostly reminds me of someone barely able to ski, filming himself riding down groomers with a selfie stick in a mixture of pizza and parallel turns...
But I've definitely ridden a local train (tram? IDK, it was on tracks) in Oslo with guys who were using it to shuttle laps on their bikes. Some googling leads me to believe this was to access the top of the Frognerseteren trails.
Can any Oslo locals help me out here? Relic of the past (I think this was 5 or 6 years ago)? Unusual event? Or something that people regularly do?
The lines in the wood are built and maintained by local guys.
Oslo is in fact a great town for general trailriding and the subway(tram) is a good way to save the legs some km to get out of the city and to where “marka” (the forest) begins.
But, Oslo is hardly the cliche continental “euro” town.
But yes, most manufacturers somehow don't give out this information...
I turn my phone off and don’t want anything to do with anything else than riding my bike in those few hours.
But good music that is used on some good footage, like a good edit can be motivating before going.
Other suggestions would also be:
I was a pretty angry kid in Connecticut growing up so I had a bias towards angry stuff getting me going.
When I was kid in the 90s/00s;
• Minor Threat - Straight Edge
• KFMDM - Ultra, Sun of a Gun
• Hatebreed - I will be heard
• Prodigy - Voodoo People
• Nine Inch Nails - Perfect Drug
• Vast - Touched
• Brendan Fairclough movie "Deathgrip" soundtrack was great (not that angry)
• Imagine Dragons - "Machine"
• Justice - "Chorus"
• Lofidelity Allstars - "Battleflag"
• Public Enemy - "Shut 'Em Up" (Prodigy remix)
• The Cinematic Orchestra - "To Build a Home" (cry while I ride song)
• Solomon Grey - "Choir to the Wild"
• Underworld - "Rez"
Here in Norway, there are plenty trains, subways, trams and other railed transport systems that delivers you to the trailhead. Last time I checked, Norway is a part of Europe (not the EU though).
-In Oslo you can shuttle from Oslo city center to the top DH and single track trails, ride down and take the subway back up to the top of the trail. Lot's of subways delivers you directly onto the trailhead and bikes are free to bring along in the Oslo area, all from the city center.
-In Bergen you can take Fløibanen to the top of the mountain Fløien and ride the trails down.
-In Trondheim you can take the tram from the city centre to the top of the trail head and singletracks.
-There are trains that delivers you directly to the start and end some of Norway's most popular biking trails like Rallarvegen.
So, plenty of railed possibilities to ride, just to mention a few.
Some time in the early 90s, my pre-driving-age (Or maybe just not-car-having. I don't honestly remember.) self, and younger brother are catching a ride up the mountain with the mechanics at our LBS for our first ever ride on the premier local singletrack (Santa Ana River Trail, in the San Bernardino Mountains). Prior to this we'd only ridden the local foothills, ridgelines and fire-roads, so it was our first real "mountain" ride. There were two different drivers, and one of them had a Jeep. I called dibs on the Jeep and when we got to the trailhead my brother climbs out of the truck and says, "You should've rode with Leonard."
Shortly afterwords my mind was blown by the twisty, flowy, and at times super exposed (Don't even really think about it now, but the narrow exposed sections really made an impression riding it for the first time.) mountain singletrack. Unlike anything I'd ridden before in the lower foothills.
On the ride back down the hill it was my turn to ride in the truck, and I'm in full epic-ride afterglow mode when Leonard pops in a cassette (Remember those?) and my mind was blown for the second time that day, as Primus, Sailing the Seas of Cheese blared out of the speakers. I was into punk, metal, and a bit of industrial at the time, but Primus was a whole different beast, borrowing elements from all of the above for their own unique sound. Probably could have been just about anything new at that age, and in that mindset, and it would have made an impression, but it happened to be Primus, which is now indelibly seared into my memory as "mountain biking music".
I, too, have eclectic tastes... do your friends also refuse to let you control the music at parties and carpools? lol.
Teaser for NWD 5: AMP Seven nation Army
Logan Peat's NSMB Airprentice application video - first time I heard MIA's Paper Planes, but I can't find it on the interweb now.
Meanwhile “the cat empire” was from the movie roam
I dont know what it is, if someone can knows something let us know.... it might be a VPN thing since i am trying to listen from my office in mexico, i will give another try when i get home.
@mikelevy you guys answered a question I had on the Alloy Stumpy vs Carbon Stumpy. Your latest review of the alloy stumpy had you all suggesting an upgrade of suspension and brakes.
Where is the best value for money in either Fox or Rockshox three tier suspension selection?
Do a Super Deluxe Ultimate or Float DPX2 have a place on a shorter travel trail bike (weight is not a concern)?
Would you do a video similar to @henryquinney's Budget vs Baller, where you take one of those value bikes that you all like the geometry and upgrade the components? No Mike Bear please
If I was making a ride video I'd want DJ Shadow feat. Run The Jewels, Nobody Speak as the soundtrack to a 3m52s slow motion sequence of me making coffee and lacing my shoes, it would honestly be better than me riding. I ain't lying, kick a lion in his crack.
RTJ would feature heavily in any gravity playlist to blast through headphones as I fumble my way down the nearest hillock.
Would love to see a video of someone like Amaury absolutely sending it juxtaposed to the melodic sounds of Delilah's Go and the lyric, "No one puts it down like me".
"I'll take you to a place where we shall find our roots, bloody roots"
That's every mountain biking trail in PNW.
1. You know Squamish is the best place to ride, right?
2. You aren't that annoying guy on the trail riding with his phone speaker blaring music, are you?
@mikelevy: your taste in music surprised me, going by the amount of tattoos, I was expecting a long list of metalcore bands, but hey, never judge book by its cover, right?
People blaring their music via Bluetooth on the trail is perhaps the most obnoxious thing ever. I feel like this issue has multiplied x20 since covid 19, with lots of trail newbies outside. I did not go outdoors to the forest to be assaulted by random noise/music. Seems either arrogant or naive to think nobody would be bothered by this. The argument of "im alone" is absurd, unless you're riding in the Arctic, or somewhere else similarly underpopulated. Headphones are not complicated.
I think it is a perfect description! Business in the front, party in the back is exactly what makes the mullet bikes great!
And if it is deemed as an immature description of the whole wheel situation, so what?
Also can you guys please do a review of Shimano mineral oil versus generic mineral sometime?
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music is the best." -FZ
Mountain biking is about 10 years behind BMX in the music video stakes.
Go watch Empire “Bad Idea” then come back to me before you mouth off…
F***ing student w***ers
I tried Kazimer’s on Zwift and it cost me about 20Watts… #vibekiller
1) turn your music off in the woods you tosser, i don't care if you are just passing me quickly....
2) i guess there are better places to ride than Squamish but you live there now so maybe have a "cuppa of shut the !@#$ up?"...... you wanker!
3) people in Europe definitely take bikes on all sorts of public transit you git! you can do these amazing point to point 100K+ rides over the Cols of the TdF and train/tram/bus back to a central locale!
There, I've exhausted by British insults that don't begin w/ the letter C! But he was trending there.
Levy & Kaz are shook to their industry-pleb cores.
Considering I'm "The Gnarliest DH Rider in The World", I'm pretty damn happy with myself. Mmm'kay?
Well I think it's fair to say that "shuttle runs in Nelson" are but one of many global mtb perspectives that PB neglects in favour of continuously banging the industry marketing drum. And the beat of that drum goes "Squamish, brown pow, flight attendant, Enduro, Whistler, seat tube angle, Sram. Squamish, brown pow, flight attendant...."
Bellingham is just an extension of S2S but with PBR instead of of $27 craft six packs
A) has a very bike shop feel to it and makes me remember the good ol' days of working in the industry
B) is the type of bike talk that most of my non biking friends (and even some of my more green bike mates) aren't interested in or able to contribute.
C) Everyone (minus Brian for not 3D printing me a job at pinkbike yet) seems like nice, stong minded people who actually make the converstaion quite funny, well explained and easy to listen to.