The Pinkbike Podcast: Episode 87 - How To Love Riding When it's Cold and Wet

Nov 4, 2021
by Mike Levy  
Pinkbike Podcast
Art by Taj Mihelich


With many parts of the world facing some dreary weather, today's show is all about how to ride your bike when it’s colder than a polar bear’s a*shole and hasn’t stopped raining for the last three months. Episode 87 sees Mike Kazimer, Sarah Moore, Henry Quinney, and I go over our tips for staying warm and somewhat dry, set-up advice to keep your bike running smoothly, and even share some cautionary tales about what not to do if you want to stay warm.





THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 87 - HOW TO LOVE RIDING WHEN IT'S COLD AND WET
Nov 4th, 2021

Is it layering if I wear four cotton t-shirts?


Featuring a rotating cast of the editorial team and other guests, the Pinkbike podcast is a weekly update on all the latest stories from around the world of mountain biking, as well as some frank discussion about tech, racing, and everything in between.




Previous Pinkbike Podcasts
Episode 1 - Why Are Bikes So Expensive?
Episode 2 - Where the Hell is the Grim Donut?
Episode 3 - Pond Beaver Tech
Episode 4 - Why is Every Bike a Trail Bike?
Episode 5 - Can You Trust Bike Reviews?
Episode 6 - Over Biked Or Under Biked?
Episode 7 - Wild Project Bikes
Episode 8 - Do We Need an Even Larger Wheel Size?
Episode 9 - Why Are We Doing a Cross-Country Field Test?
Episode 10 - Getting Nerdy About Bike Setup
Episode 11 - Are We Going Racing This Year?
Episode 12 - What's the Future of Bike Shops?
Episode 13 - Are Bikes Too Regular Now?
Episode 14 - What Bikes Would Pinkbike Editors Buy?
Episode 15 - What's Holding Mountain Biking Back?
Episode 16 - Who's Your Mountain Biking Hero?
Episode 17 - XC Field Test Insider
Episode 18 - Electronics on your Mountain Bike: Good or Bad?
Episode 19 - The Hardtail Episode
Episode 20 - MTB Conspiracy Theories
Episode 21 - Stuff We Were Wrong About
Episode 22 - Does Your Riding Style Match Your Personality?
Episode 23 - Grim Donut 2 is Live!
Episode 24 - Why Even Buy a DH Bike?
Episode 25 - Fall Field Test Preview
Episode 26 - The Three Most Important Mountain Bikes
Episode 27 - The World Champs Special
Episode 28 - All About Women's Bikes
Episode 29 - Freeride or Die
Episode 30 - Would You Rather?
Episode 31 - Wet Weather Riding Tips & Tricks
Episode 32 - What Needs to Change in the Bike Industry?
Episode 33 - Behind the Scenes at Pinkbike Academy
Episode 34 - Grilling Levy About Field Test Trail Bikes (and His Bonspiel)
Episode 35 - Story Time - Stranger Than Fiction
Episode 36 - Grilling Kazimer about Field Test Enduro Bikes
Episode 37 - The 2020 Privateer Season with Ben Cathro
Episode 38 - Editors Defend Their 2020 Best-Of Picks
Episode 39 - Predicting the Future of Mountain Biking
Episode 40 - The Pinkbike Awards!
Episode 41 - Racing Rumours and Team Changes
Episode 42 - Mountain Biking's Guilty Pleasures
Episode 43 - Dangerholm's Wildest Custom Mountain Bikes
Episode 44 - Mountain Bike Suspension Decoded
Episode 45 - What Makes a Good Riding Buddy
Episode 46 - The RockShox Zeb vs Fox 38 Deep Dive
Episode 47 - High Pivot Bikes: The Good, The Bad, and The Why?
Episode 48 - Rides That Went Horribly Wrong... & Why That Made Them So Good
Episode 49 - What's the Best DH Bike?
Episode 50 - Are Bikes Actually Getting Less Expensive? (Value Bike Field Test Preview)
Episode 51 - Should MTB Media Post Spy Shots?
Episode 52 - Our Most Embarrassing MTB Moments
Episode 53 - Should Climbers Still Have the Right of Way?
Episode 54 - Best and Worst MTB Product Marketing
Episode 55 - Big Dumb Rides & Staying Motivated
Episode 56 - What Were the Most Important Inventions in Mountain Biking?
Episode 57 - What Were the Best (and Worst) Trends in Mountain Biking?
Episode 58 - Debunking Mountain Biking's Biggest Myths
Episode 59 - Value Bike Field Trip Surprises & Spoilers
Episode 60 - What Kind of Mountain Biker Do You Want to Be?
Episode 61 - Athlete Pay, Lycra, Equality and More from the State of the Sport Survey
Episode 62 - Editor Preferences and Why They Matter
Episode 63 - Our Best (And Worst) Bike Buying Advice
Episode 64 - Who's On Your MTB Mount Rushmore?
Episode 65 - The Hardtail Episode
Episode 66 - The Best and Worst of Repairing Bikes
Episode 67 - The Story of Mountain Biking's Most Interesting Man: Richard Cunningham
Episode 68 - Who Are Mountain Biking's Unsung Heroes?
Episode 69 - The Good, Bad, and Strange Bikes We've Owned - Part 1
Episode 70 - The Good, Bad, and Strange Bikes We've Owned - Part 2
Episode 71 - The Story of Mountain Biking's Most Interesting Man: Richard Cunningham - A Pinkbike Podcast Special, Part 2
Episode 72 - Hey Outers!
Episode 73 - The Details That Matter... and Some That Shouldn't
Episode 74 - The Best Trails We've Ridden and What Makes Them So Special
Episode 75 - Things MTB Brands Waste Money On
Episode 76 - MTB Originals and Copycats
Episode 77 - Interview with Outside CEO, Robin Thurston
Episode 78 - Modern Geometry Explained
Episode 79 - What's the Future of eMTBs?
Episode 80 - The Best Vehicles for Mountain Bikers
Episode 81 - You've Got Questions, We've (Maybe) Got Answers
Episode 82 - Behind the Scenes at Field Test
Episode 83 - Does Carbon Fiber Belong On Your Mountain Bike?
Episode 84 - Explaining RockShox's Computer Controlled Suspension
Episode 85 - Is the Red Bull Rampage Too Slopestyle?
Episode 86 - Greg Minnaar on the Honda DH Bike, World Cup Racing, and Staying Fast Forever


109 Comments

  • 24 1
 Pinkbike really should do a piece on the burgeoning fatbiking scene in the Northeast U.S. There is a trail grooming machine called a snow-dog, and it allows places to groom pretty much any singletrack for fatbiking. It's amazing what you can go up and down.

It turns fatbiking from a boring XC endeavor, to foot-out-flat-out hooligan racing down steep and terrifying trails. If your NE correspondent needs a tour of the best places, let me know!

Unfortunately in the Northeast U.S., mountain bike trails are mostly closed until the snow. Our shoulder seasons; mud season, AKA spring; and stick season, AKA fall, don't allow for trail riding, as the trails are too fragile.

I ride fatbikes all winter (usually in the dark with lights) when there is snow on the trails, and backcountry ski for big adventures on the weekends. The fatbiking is getting better and better, and hopefully more trail system adopt groomers.
  • 34 8
 Did you know you get access to FatBike with an Outside+ subscription!?!

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 2 0
 @bonkmasterflex: that’s a broad generalization of the northeast. Without any local fat bike trail grooming (aka ice packing and making the trails worse when things are melting off) I get to ride 2-3 times a week for 45-50 weeks of the year here in CT and was the same in RI and eastern NY. I miss more rides from rain than snow most years.
  • 4 0
 @notoutsideceo: Cyclingtips just announced a partial paywall...how long till PB follows? just wondering.
  • 7 0
 @ReformedRoadie: As I already posted in another thread. Plenty of free VPNs that solve your paywall issue! (don't tell my CTO you heard it from me!)

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 2 1
 @DHhack: Pff CT isn't north. That's basically Georgia.
  • 2 0
 To specify, I'd checkout the fatbiking in Vermont!
  • 5 0
 I think fat bikes are now regarded as a phase similar to plus sized tires but here in Alberta there is a huge functional fat bike scene including racing. Dedicated groomed trails and commuting keep us riding all year round. It's impossible to understand the fun factor of studded fat bike tires and groomed trails until you try it.
  • 2 0
 @map-guy: Are these packed groomed "trails" rideable on normal width tires or just fat bikes?
  • 1 2
 @bonkmasterflex: ah see now you get it. Tool.
  • 5 1
 Next time @mikelevy says pinkers, he should be banished to Quebec for a fatbike field test
  • 4 0
 @FensterM: I'm on it!

Be safe be well,
Incognito Robin
  • 2 0
 @rickybobby18: A normal tire will sink in. Around me we post the trails asking folks not to run anything under 3.5" or else they'll make ruts.
  • 2 1
 Manitoba also has a few groomed fat bike trails.
  • 3 0
 Yes! Maine has a burgeoning fatbike scene as well. Sure, grooming the trails might delay spring riding by a week or two, but its game changing for people who just want to bike. You're right in that there's no spring riding and sometimes no fall riding due to wet trails. Most good trail systems near me get closed when they're too wet.

@mikelevy come to the Northeast for a winter "fieldtest" and I promise you won't leave without smiling. Time it for Highland Bike Park's annual Winter Woolly fatbike DH race!
  • 1 0
 @rickybobby18: you need 3.8" or larger unless conditions are just right, but then you'd probably need studded skinnies anyways.
  • 4 0
 You should see the north Midwest Fat Bike scene if you think the NE scene is big. Nearly every trail system here grooms or is shared snowshoe/fat bike.

I've been trying to bend the ear of Pinkbike, especially @mikelevy, for a few years to come to Minnesota for a fat bike field test. We have the infrastructure, the grooming and the snow/cold. Come on guys, lets make this happen!
  • 2 0
 Agreed. Fatbiking here in Maine has been fantastic. A lot of times the snow is essentially ice. It turns our rooty rocky trails into pump tracks. And sometimes the trails and weather are better for fatbike riding than skiing.

And with regards to fatbike suspension, why yes it doesn't work as well as it does in the summer, it does make a difference. Gotta have the fork to dampen the basketballs that are your tires.

Lastly, what does PB staff have against fatbikes? I thought the point of biking was just to get out and have some fun? Whether its riding trails that aren't solid enough for regular width studded tires, or goofing around on summer rides, these things are fun. The bigger tires mean that I'm not getting beat up as much as I would on a regular hardtail, and the ability to carry 2 water bottles in the frame means I can go for longer rides, or be less likely to bonk when its super humid out. So, why so much hate?
  • 1 0
 @rickybobby18: nah you want fat tires, the snow needs to set up and harden yet is so variable that sometimes grooming doesn't work and things turn sugary. Also worth noting that the guys out grooming in the freezing cold middle of the night DO NOT appreciate skinny tires wrecking the track.
  • 1 0
 I'm going to pile on to this why the hate for fatbikes thread? I live in Edmonton - the trails are snowcovered for almost 6 months of the year (mid Nov - early April). While the conditions are occasionally good enough to take on the trails with a regular FS MTB, 5" studded tires will get you through any trail condition. Fresh, ice, sugar, lightly packed, hiker tracked, dust on crust - the conditions are different every day.

Whatever it takes to get you out and on the trails. A fat bike ride in marginal conditions beats a ride on an indoor trainer any day!

This is my setup - www.pinkbike.com/photo/21618162

One other thing - I have pogies on my bars. These are awesome for keeping your hands warm while allowing for just light gloves for a bit of feel.
  • 1 0
 Nova Scotia has a lot of groomed fat bike trails now, several of the trail systems are maintained throughout the winter some for multi-use but some are groomed specifically for fat bikers. Overall, great info in this episode. Getting a trainer this year but rode all winter last year with my mtb on the road once the trails were snow covered and fat bike only and plan to ride throughout this winter as well. This year have a winter road bike geared up with Pzero 4S, full fenders with extensions and soon to come drop bar bar mitts. Thankfully, the winters aren't overly brutal here so you really only need to deal with a couple months of temps below -10.
  • 23 0
 Jesus @henryquinney that was an epic storytime. As much fun as it was - it sounds like you were actually pretty close to the edge
  • 9 4
 Yeah, seriously pb. I mean, we all hate henry cause he thinks all bikes should be internally cable routed and have as many proprietary parts as possible..... But, getting him in a compromised state and putting him out in the cold so he dies seems a bit extreme.... Then again, now that henry has had a near death experience, perhaps he now understands that we all only have only so much time on this earth. And most of us want to use our limited time on earth doing enjoyable things with people we love, instead of wasting our limited hours on earth dealing with internal cable routing.
  • 8 1
 Henry has way better stories than R. Cunningham.
  • 1 0
 Yah, that was gnarly and could have ended very badly. Amazing he didn't at least lose some finger tips or something.
Also Henry's point about firm knobbed tires doing better in mud/ sand is definitely a thing. When it comes to MX tires sand/ mud tires are a very hard compound where-as hardpack tires, use soft rubber compounds. You need the hard knobs to piece the soil well but they will tear on hardpack dirt and also don't conform or grab well on hardpack.
  • 14 0
 WTF - Henry trippin' his Buckinham Balls off - and we don't get an entire podcast dedicated to that? COME ON Pinkbike, let's do this...
  • 6 0
 Also - @henryquinney - that was not a 4D woman's foot you saw - that was @mikelevy reaching into his pants to warm his hands up & freeze his unit, then peeing all over himself to warm up (which he thinks is a think amazingly).

Also - movie you saw did not suggest diving headfirst into a sack of shrooms...it featured guided micro-dosing, and particularly for end of life / ptsd / and traumatic types. Bummed that your "new friends" let ya gobble these down like popcorn then let you eat more in an hour when "nothing happened" because it can take time, then walked you to the perimeter & let ya go into the night w/ a headlamp alone - super dangerous. Seriously: you're lucky ya didn't freeze to death or get into a more serious sitch, but maybe dealing w/ an Insane Henry wasn't "new friends" idea of a great evening.
  • 9 1
 @Mtn-Goat-13: I mean, I'm pretty sure I remember him saying "By the bucket load. 2021, baby. Yolo". Maybe that was the director's cut.

I do think it's all very interesting though, particularly in the areas you mentioned. Clearly, my judgment was just way off.

I kind of want to be clear on one thing though - it wasn't a case of anyone letting me do anything or somebody else's poor judgment. I'm an adult and I made some very bad decisions, but that's my bad and not theirs. You're right though, I was very lucky to get out with just a weird story and cautionary tale.
  • 4 0
 @henryquinney: Hopefully this experience doesn't scare you away from em! Next time, start small. Have a couple nibbles, go out for a hike or long easy trail ride, and try not to focus on whether or not they're working. You can always take more, but you can't undo what you've already partaken Wink
  • 1 0
 @henryquinney: Heard on that adulthood. Clearly you could not have the bike skills & knowledge w/o proper adulting. Judgment is never quite on w/ these things til later on and even then, everyone's different. Mostly just glad ya didn't just show up to BC, get in w/ PB (as your insights & comments easily elevate the cast & the site) and then f*cking die. Save that for a Brage Vestevik style drop or something.

Also, I still think PB could easily do one podcast- just one - on Henry's insane experience w/ this - that would be a trip!
  • 1 0
 Can I upvote this request more than once?
  • 1 0
 @oddestfellow: I don't guess so: PB entirely ignored my comment so, f*ck em. Henry had thots and saw trails: we move on now
  • 5 0
 @henryquinney you seemed curious about fat bike riding. As someone who fat biked regularly for 6 year in AK. I can assure you that your story about hanging out all night with a fun guy; is basically what most fat bike rides are like. Warm warm warm.
  • 3 0
 Yeah Henry, if you're fat-curious it's well worth looking into.
  • 5 0
 @brianpark, in one of the podcasts it would be cool to hear more about some of the 3D printed parts you've experimented with. I just recently got into 3D printing. Making parts or accessories for my bike sounds fun. Any good success or failure stories?

Anyone else have any cool 3D printed parts on their bike?
www.pinkbike.com/forum/listcomments/?threadid=232919
  • 13 0
 @mikelevy I promise this isn't my alt.

@eaudiffred we'll do a 3D printing pod sometime soon. I actually have an interview lined up for it as well.
  • 3 0
 I'm with Kaz AND Levy on gloves and shoes falling apart. I can get 5 rides out of gloves before super glueing the seams back together. And I can blow out a pair of five tens sitting on the couch. I will say I switched to ride concepts middies this season and they are lasting well so far
  • 3 0
 Canada Capital region has some killer winter riding. Some of the best and spookiest conditions are when the ground has frozen but no snow fall yet, hard pack makes for some high speeds.... then ice! Would love to see a Pinkbike trip showcasing Vallee des bras du nord yurt fatbike experience
  • 3 0
 Carbon bars with silicone grips and carbon brake levers allow me to ride much thinner gloves, even well below freezing (0F-32F / -18C-0C). The rest of my body doesn't have too much trouble staying warm. Actually, sweating no matter how cold it is my main problem.

Oh, and my Louis Garneau Klondike shoes are amazing!

And count me in on the 29+ HARDTAIL for slop riding.
  • 1 0
 Yes, carbon bars, carbon levers and silicone grips! Even in winter when everyone's saying "you need pogies" I'm just fine with normal gloves or lobster claws on the real cold days.
  • 3 0
 I love having a cozy change of clothes in the car for after the ride. Huge morale boost if your drive is any longer than like 30 mins. And my go-to winter garb is a smartwool 250 baselayer on top, a lightweight wool buff, and wool socks.
  • 3 0
 I rode through 20 years of winters on the Colorado Front Range before moving to the PNW. IMO the worst is when wind chilled components are cold enough to freeze water but the ground is warm enough to keep things sloppy. It's a special hell where everyone ends up riding single speed as your cassette freezes over everywhere except the gear your chain is on, fenders or not.
  • 3 0
 Question for the podcast: when did aluminum rims become so freaking expensive. I’m old enough to remember when the 18 in a Sun CR18 apparently designated the width and the price. The fanciest Mavic rim you could buy with machined brake tracks and a ceramic coating was $70. Now Al rims are ~$150 and they don’t have brake tracks and usually don’t even have eyelets anymore. Way more than inflation and it can’t be the extra $0.17 of Al for a wider rim. Did carbon help normalize higher rim prices?
  • 4 0
 I think we need to get @henryquinney on a field trip to Alberta this winter to try some fat bikes and some real cold (but a bit more dry)!
  • 2 0
 Never double-down on mushrooms! Whoever had them should have been much more careful with folks who hadn't tried them before. Glad you survived Harry, seemed like it could've gone either way. There's not too much to learn from poisoning yourself.
  • 12 1
 Lesson learned! The strongest thing I ever intend on taking again in my entire life is an over-brewed earl grey.
  • 1 0
 @henryquinney: In the hundred or so times I've taken psychedelic drugs of all sorts the only time it was "bad" would be the one time I took a 2nd dose of mushrooms, it can cause serotonin poisoning. If you do try again with any kind of psychedelic, do it with someone experienced who can and will make sure things go smoothly. The fact you did survive and are still the same person means you'll probably be fine, you'll probably have a much better experience, and you may find it worthwhile. They can certainly open doors to perceiving the world in ways you may not have previously considered so I wouldn't rule out ever trying them again.
  • 2 0
 @henryquinney: this is unfortunate to hear although understandable. When consuming psychedelics set and setting is critical. IMO these are substances to be treated with respect for healing and learning. With all the promising research and literature coming out it would be a shame to dismiss them completely. Especially if your interested in consciousness and the mind. The conversation with roland griffiths and Sam Harris. Glad your okay though.
  • 2 1
 @davec113: “The fact that you did survive and are the same person…”

PASS THAT SHIT
  • 3 0
 With dirtbikes using O-ring chains, you can notice the loss in power on smaller displacement bikes. The trade off is a longer lasting chain. O-ring chains on mountain bikes would be a terrible idea.
  • 1 0
 Got the notification for this episode, walked outside, rain turned to frost last night, 25F out, so everything was frozen, had to work the ratcheting mechanism on my T2 a few times to get it to hold my front wheel. The episode so far has aligned well with my experience for the day.
  • 1 0
 I just bought a raw Planet-X Jack Flash 25th Anniversary frame, which is a remake dirt jumper with a derailleur hanger. I plan to use it as my Ray's bike / trail hardtail. I was thinking about getting a custom frame built that has similar geometry and the price was too good to pass up. There are some weird compromises that I didn't think about. It is designed for cantilever brakes but it does have IS mounts but no cable mounts on the seat stays. The cable mounts that it does have are the kind that alternate between an outer housing and bare cable. So unless I want to zip tie fully housed cables to my frame I'll be using cable actuated disc brakes. This is not a big deal for the purposes of this bike but the cable actuated disc brakes that I have found are either: 1) cheap off brand stuff on Amazon or 2) expensive options like TRP cable actuated hydraulics or Sypres or Paul components.

I am just not the kind of person who can spend more on brakes than the frame. My ADD does not allow it because there is a hierarchy of how much you get to spend on each part relative to the frame. Fork is only thing allowed to be more expensive than frame and only when you get a smoking deal on the frame.

I am also not the kind of person that wants to use brakes that I cannot trust.

I like the Avid BB5s on my single speed, are those still made? Are there gravel or road bike brakes that are decent at a good price that I could get?
  • 1 0
 @vapidoscar:

Avid BB7s are great, totally sufficient for a bike like that. Never tried BB5s but I understand they’re more or less identical in function. For best results use the Avid levers with adjustable lever pull to dial in feel.

That frame looks awesome by the way! Did you find a geometry chart anywhere?
  • 1 0
 @AckshunW: Geo chart at bottom of page. Other compromises are 27.2 seat tube with no hole for dropper cable and QR rear axle. Here is what the online help told me about the frame:

"its a 31.8 seat clamp, 27.2 seat post, 26er with a 135mm X 9mm QR rear end
disc is IS mount"

It uses as 44/56 internal diameter head tube. So you can get an angle set if you aren't loving the head angle.
  • 1 0
 This is not answering your question, but I've had success using a hydraulic brake in that kind of cable stop by wrapping a zip tie around *only* the hose and through itself. Stick that in the stop with the end coming out through the slot, tighten just enough to prevent hose sliding, and cut off the excess.
  • 1 0
 For that 135 rear hub this is a great, but expensive option. Had one on my dj for years. That frame has vertical dropouts not horizontal for ss, so a normal 135 qr hub will probably be fine.
www.chainreactioncycles.com/us/en/hope-pro-4-mtb-rear-hub-10mm-bolt-up-axle/rp-prod145296

For the cable mounts: A buddy of mine, back when cable mounts were like that, would take a dremel tool and cut open the skinny end so the cable housing can fit all the way thru. Just a thought.
  • 3 0
 So which one of Henry's colleagues let him walk off into the woods alone on what sounds like a massive dose for his first time ever indulging? Look out for your friends.
  • 7 1
 Everyone has their own path to tread, literally in my case, albeit with some bushwacking along the way. Truthfully though, it wasn't as Hollywood as all that, as if there was one big choice or a moment of no-return. It was just some incrementally and increasingly poor choices on my behalf. The colleague in question had enough on their own plate, if you catch my drift. I'm certainly a lucky boy.
  • 1 0
 Carbon fiber brake levers are the best thing ever in the cold, I wish more companies offered them if only for this purpose. Merino wool gloves + socks also help to stay warm when wet.
Also, some cheap insulative footbeds are heaps better when using SPD cleats.
  • 1 0
 A nice upgrade for winter riding has been enduro style hand guards. Keeps the wind off my hands and really extends the weather and temperature range that I can ride with normal gloves on. Then of course there are poagies for when it gets really cold, however that's fat biking territory and I too have sworn off fat biking, I'd rather nordic ski.
  • 2 0
 An episode on night riding would be cool since it’s daylight savings this weekend. I saw a cougar on my night ride tonight and would love to hear other crazy stories about night rides.
  • 1 0
 Last winter I took a cold ride and both my gear shift cable AND my dropper post cable froze up. AND the water in my camelbak tube froze. I was wrapped up warm, and pedaling, so the weather was fine for riding. Why made it unenjoyable was being stuck in one gear with my saddle too low for the entire ride.
  • 1 0
 You're welcome to visit Cyprus, we're the most South island of Europe and hence the coldest it gets is 0C on the highest peaks. And since everything is just an hours' drive, you can ski, mountain bike and surf on the same day!
  • 1 0
 I think Levy might be a bit mistaken in regards to helmets when he said mountain bikers don't care how they look. I see plenty on the trails and in the PB comment sections that tear up if someone even mentions riding in lycra.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy always welcome in Sedona. Border is open right? Cars are waiting...
What I have learned over the years is that if I need to bundle up as much as going skiing, it s probably not worth getting out! And I ll chill home do stretches or hangout with my cat in the warmth!
  • 1 0
 Gentlemen- my current ride (Pivot Mach 4 v2) uses 27.5 wheels, a 130mm fork, and has a head angle of 69.2. I love the bike in all respects, but would love more stability in the rough stuff. If you all had to guess, what would "happen" to the handling if I installed this: www.pinkbike.com/news/wolf-tooth-releases-new-geoshift-2-performance-angle-headset.html I live in Ventura County (SoCal), and ride a variety of tight and twisty ups and downs, to fast and relatively technical trails. I'd prefer not to buy another bike, and would like to extend the life of this 2018 rig. I understand you all can't necessarily predict with complete accuracy, but any thoughts would help: I don't need more bikes; I just would like to embrace the current trend of a bit slacker head angle found on the "downcountry" (sorry Levy) rigs. Thanks in advance.
  • 1 0
 My coldest, wettest and most miserable ride occurred right after I listened to this podcast on the way to the trailhead. It rained on the climb and there was snow at the top. I had no jacket, no spare gloves, no beanie for my bald head. Needless to say, I was unprepared.
  • 1 0
 How is did you manage to do a whole podcast about cold weather riding and not mention pogies/bar mitts. The are complete and total game changers you can wear very thin gloves and still have warm hands.
I have a few depending on ambient temperatures
50 to 38f (10 to 3c) wolf tooth
35 to 25 f (3 to -4 c) 45nrth cobrafist (locking mechanism doesn't work on alloy bars very well works fine on carbon)
25f to 10f (-4 to -12c) dogwood design pogies

Anything below that I add chemical hand warmers and that has been good to -1f (-18c) haven't biked in temps below that... Yet.
  • 1 0
 I think my highlight brutal ride of last winter was on my old hardtail on the road but in an active snow storm. The snow plow drivers were kind enough to lift their wings and not plow me into the ditch as they went by at 80km/h but its a concerning site to hear them roar up behind up and look back to see that big plow and wing coming at ya. I got about 40k from home before my front derailluer (3x9 baby!) iced up so much from the slush I could thaw it out or get it working again. My bottles and camel bak hose freezing up was pretty common but only when riding in that active snow storm did a part of my bike stop working. It was a bit of a grind doing the climbs on the way back stuck in the 44T chain ring but made er, by the time I got back again the roads had a good 4" of snow on them.
Since the trails become fat bike only once the snow is down (they get groomed), this winter I have a road bike geared up for winter riding with Pzero 4S tires, full fenders + extensions and soon to come drop bar pogies. Might be a bit more of handful in the snow but should be good for those winter road miles.
  • 2 0
 I will never love winter riding, I do love starting spring riding without feeling like a blob of stiffness with no lungs. Therefore I winter ride in spite of my dislike.
  • 3 0
 Being Scottish i'm frankly shocked there is weather that's warm and dry 0_0
  • 2 0
 Any chance you can quit the little "preview" at the beginning? We are going to hear it anyway, its just something I have to end skipping.
  • 2 0
 These are the cold weather biking experts. It's a whole other level.

bikepacking.com/event/2021-iditarod-trail-invitational
  • 1 0
 best podcast ever!!!!! when will you do a podcast on tires? I know everyone has favs but what is a really good mud tire for winter or best tire combo? like to hear Kazimer and Levy's take on this....
  • 3 0
 Nice try but you can’t get me to like freezing fingers, ears, and face!
  • 3 1
 Glad you made it out alive Henry- hope you dare to join us again at next year's invitational.
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 More stories of Henry getting profoundly zooted and riding it out in the woods, plz
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 @mikelevy I have those ear covers. They are indeed goofy looking but great for keeping my ears warm without overheating the top of my head.
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 electronic components that make you find a good suspension-setup helps more average riders then bike-journalists get upset about it.
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 Henry’s been in Canada like 5 minutes and he’s already saying “eh” after everything lol
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 Like going into the backcountry; be bold, start cold.
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 In Greater Van riding in the rain is standard fare if you want to keep on the bike during fall / winter / spring. lol
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 BEST PODCAST STORY YET!!
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 I did not have 'Henry tripping balls' on my podcast bingo this week.
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 When you live in the south of France, you don't have this kind of problems. Fall and winter are the best season to ride.
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 Build trails when the weather is miserable. Ride when it's marginal to primo.
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 Riding in the snow and the cold is some of the most amazing riding there is.
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 Thanks Sarah for the tip with the socks. You just made my wife great Christmas and one less worry for me!
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 Wear more/correct clothing...
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 Warner knows…All hail the egg!
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 Late to the party, can I request a fat tire ebike fieldtest?
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 If you want a perma-ban, sure Wink
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 @mikelevy: WANTED TO SNEAK IN A LATE HACK FOR WINTER RIDING IN COLDER CLIMATES.

Tape off the front and only front Vents of your helmet - this allows for ventilation but does not send that cool airflow over your head. It works well with one of those thin headbands around zero degrees. Remember - most helmets are designed for cooling -we can now use that foam to our advantage.

Colder than that - get an older aero-helmet with minimal vents. Tape at will.

Your friends may not hang out with you but they are likely indoors on their trainers anyways.
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 Slip into something warm
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 I loved that story
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 No comment gold?!
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