At the end of every year, we like to take a stab at what we think may or may not happen over the coming twelve months. Sometimes it's pretty obvious - it's no shocker they'll be a bunch more e-bikes out there in 2022, or that some stuff will still be hard to find - but we also have a few less clear-cut guesses. Full-suspension designed around Live Valve or Flight Attendant? More 27.5" bikes? Less 27.5" bikes? 32" wheels? Minnaar wins again? New drivetrains from SRAM and Shimano? Mispronouncing dachshund? Alien disclosure? Challenges for enduro racing?
Are we out to lunch? Let us know in the comments what you think we'll see in 2022.
THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 97 - CAN WE PREDICT THE FUTURE OF MOUNTAIN BIKING? Dec 16th, 2021
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Sadly, and utterly hilariously, some people do take it seriously lol.
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Sorry folks, the podcast will only be available on spotify from now on
Also Henry, loving your reviews and banter on the podcast, don't let the negative folks get you down too much.
Me listening when Henry starts talking: *volume 30*
Me when somebody else interjects while Henry is talking: "JESUS f*ck!" *turns down, then back up when Henry starts back up*
@brianpark boost his mic?
With full suspension mountain bikes, I hear about steel frames adding compliance as well as carbon frames building in flex to certain areas with the lay up (not talking about flex chain/seat stays for single pivot). Then there are carbon handle bars with flex in one direction or the other. Mountain bike suspension is so advanced and customizable to each rider, should the frame be as stiff as possible and make the fork and shock do all the work to keep the wheels on the ground and provide the desired ride quality?
Last year, I did some back-to-back blind testing with five different handlebars (cheap aluminum, a few different carbon ones, and two with so-called intentional flex) and found zero difference. After the test, I tried to match up what I felt with the handlebars and guessed that the "comfortable" one was actually the thick aluminum handlebar. I'm not convinced.
either that or you are really really slow ;-)
The Ghost Riot would have won!
Also I'm not a Midwest rider so this is a genuine question, but wouldn't living in an area that is flatter or more undulating also necessitate a more efficient pedaler than what they described in the review? Or are Midwest trails a lot more technical than I'm imagining? I'm in the northeast so something slightly steeper and shorter and a little bit on the active side works great here for twisty and very rocky trails.
On the other hand, why is anyone surprised that bikes weigh so much. They are considerably longer now, have wider diameter (38mm) forks, bigger wheels, wider handle bars, thicker tires with inserts and goop, giant cogs, bigger brakes. And I think the more things get stretched out the more material needs to be added to keep it tough.
That being said, middle America (Plain states & Midwest & Midsouth) have WAY better mountain biking than some on the coasts/mountain states think they do. Its just different. A ride is just 14 hills versus 1 mountain. Another advantage, such as it is, is that when you don't have the views, or the epic trail or the terrain, you have to work REALLY hard to make the trail interesting. And foot for foot, the decent trails in middle America tend to be more interesting. I've been on western trail where you have pay attention because either you will fall off the side of the mountain or its rough (usually due to poor maintenance) or you are going full plaid, but trail itself isn't anything but a line down the mountain. Contrast that with something like Swope Park (KS) or Jackpot (MN) or Brown County (IN) where its not big compared to out west, but its consistently flowing, swoopy with tons of little tech - in other words, fun and repeatable.
Look, Dubuque isn't going to be the next Moab, don't kid yourself. But its not a boring cow pasture either.
Besides basically pestering PB staff about a fat bike field test, I always suggest they should have the the field test location fit the bikes they are covering. I have to wonder how certain bikes would do if they the field test was taking place in Georgia or Michigan or Pennsylvania. Especially for lower travel bikes (130mm).
I'll await that PM on who to talk to at Pinkbike to schedule that fat bike field test... :-)
That being said, some of my DH loving buds like to goto Santos in FL (and other spots) and there's some pretty wild built terrain there. But - too effin' hot (and cocaine drug lorded) there for me, even in winter, so I don't bother but at least in western NC, there's big ups & downs literally right out the backdoor and I don't really have to go anywhere to have a blast as well as terrain that's kinda what you're describing - constant flow / uppy / downy Generalizing is easy to do, but it blows over all kindsa detail & terrain - hats off to ya & thanks for the reminder.
I cannot fathom living in a flat area.
Why do e bikes mullets have a 2.8 wide tire in the back? As I understand it, they are the same outside diameter as a 29 non plus tire? So it really isn't a mullet with a smaller rear outer diameter, just wheel. Can't imagine they are lighter. Is it only a traction thing in this case?
And then even with 26, most people just go yeah its a dirt jumper wheel and thats fine. But it does go a bit beyond that and there are brands right now who are catering to the idea of slopestyle, jump/pump track, or even flow trail bikes. And you know damn well they're fun. the NS Clash, the Giant STP, the Commencal HT XS. And in so far as the industry will never stop growing and developing, there is a place for 26ers and it's not just single speed hardtail dirt jumpers. And it makes even more since when you admit how close 27.5 (actually about 27.1) is to a 26 wheel... And how the Commencal mullet style 26/27 has a lot more usage implication than a dirt jump.
And I say all of this simply because I have, like many, upgraded to a 140mm 29er and it's funny because even at those numbers I feel exactly how Henry says where it takes away some of the 'present thought' of riding when compared to my previous bike (130mm 275er). I do love some elements of the bike, but checking my Strava it's not blowing anything out of the water. Tight trails I'm actually a touch slower, wide open trails I'm a touch faster. But frequently I find myself on parts of trails where I'm cursing the huge wheels and insane wheel base as I struggle to get my front wheel around a corner.
Being 'economically challenged' and needing to have a single do-it-all bike, I think a 120/130 650b or mullet bike would be perfect for me and my local trails. And when I see other riders on things like 180mm 29ers and I'm on my 140mm 29er and I look at the trails we have locally and how we're riding... I truly feel silly. It's like those big city dudes who have crazy lifted trucks that never see dirt. Simply silly...
I think it also depends on the structure of the company. Canyon will have in-house designers whereas some companies, even quite big ones, use consultancy. Again, it's very hard to say, but sometimes the latter can mean that the feedback is quite insulated from the designers. You have to talk to the company and then hope they relay that information correctly back to their hired hands. This can mean the consultant has been hired for a particular design or philosophy. That can potentially mean they're more resistant to change or adapt - you might even have a direct line to them but they're not going to listen haha. On the other side, if they get it right, it can bring a company with a conservative outlook kicking and screaming into modern geometry.
Whether it's a result of that input or not, the Sender looks to be a great bike to set up in terms of fit. I know Jack Moir has his personal preferences about his bike, and quite frankly more power to him. I think whatever works for the individual is the most important thing. I imagine the difficulty of being a designer for a big brand is more about finding what works well for most though, which is a different matter entirely.
It’ll be a new, one-off “MOD -“ or “MOD Lite” button. He’ll have the full range of perks bar the one which make it possible to ban people who get on his t*ts.
Latest iOS, deleted the app and reinstalled, and unsubscribed and resubscribed to the podcast. All my other podcasts are fine.
If you think about it. Unless you’ve got a lift you’re probably only riding for ten to twenty minutes a day and even then there’s only going to be a few sections that challenge you. The rest of the day is spent in the car driving to the location and riding / pushing to the top of the trail only to be at the bottom two mins later. At the skateparks it’s all action from the moment you get there to the moment you leave. This is why the BMX’er are all coming over to mtb and dominating. It’s like they’ve come from a different league and it’s mainly due to the time they’ve spent actually riding bikes not doing all the in-between stuff you have to do just to get your bike to the top of a mountain.
Rant/wishful thinking over.
Process X is “designed” to run 27.5 or 29 rear wheel via flip chip without compromising the BB height. I dont see too many other companies pushing this option. What other compromises would result ? Suspension Kinematics ?
- Gearboxes (an exposed chain in a muddy environment is an oddity)
- Maybe new frame material - some glass-filled composite that could be injection molded.
What I'd like to see is more competition in the component industry. There's obviously gold in them hills, so someone else besides Shimano / SRAM / Rockshox / Fox can have a piece of the pie.