Thule T2 Pro Rack - Review

Nov 2, 2016
by Mike Levy  
Thule T2 Pro review test


Tray-style racks that bolt into a receiver hitch are one of the most common ways to transport a bike. While there are a load of different rack manufacturers to choose from, Thule is undoubtedly one of the most familiar brands, thanks in part to their nearly 75 years in business. The Swedish company's original T2 debuted back in 2005, and it's still one of the most commonly seen hitch racks, but after ten-plus years, Thule wisely chose to give it an update.

The result is the new $549.95 USD T2 Pro that, while sharing a similar name, is an entirely new beast altogether compared to the standard T2.
T2 Pro Details

• Folding hitch-style rack
• Fits 2'' and 1 1/4'' recievers
• Two-bike add-on (2'' only)
• Tool-free expanding wedge
• Locking receiver connection
• Integrated locks
• Wheel trays fit road to fatbike tires
• Independently adjustable trays
• T2 Pro MSRP: $549.95 USD
• Two-bike add-on: $399.95 USD
www.thule.com


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test
The new T2 Pro features a much beefier folding mechanism compared to its predecessor.


What sets the new T2 Pro and standard T2 ($399 USD) apart? The former features entirely different construction in every regard, but most notably when it comes to the rack's folding mechanism. The older T2 employs a normal looking hinge and safety pin layout, similar to what you'd see on most racks out there, whereas the T2 Pro's mechanism has a much wider stance, and the release handle is on the end of the rack rather than the base. This means that you don't have to reach over or under a bunch of dirty bikes to access it.


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test
The T2 Pro attaches to the receiver without any tools thanks to an expanding wedge system, and its folding release handle is in an easy to reach location at the end of the rack.


The rack's ratcheting arms also differ, with a new release button and a sturdier looking setup on the T2 Pro, as well as individual spring-loaded cable locks that extend out from the end of each arm. The rubber-coated cables are threaded through a bike's front triangle and then looped back on itself, where the simple lock latches onto the end of the cable. A motivated and prepared thief with a set of cutters could obviously make short work of them, but the locking cables limit the chance of a crime of opportunity, and they're more flexible than the standard T2's optional locking cores.

Thule also made sure that the key that locks and unlocks both cables is also the same one that locks and unlocks the tool-free wedge that tightens the T2 Pro into your car's receiver.


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test
The new ratcheting arms are each home to a short cable lock.


Installation (but not assembly) is a tool-free process, with a hitch wedge that tightens into your vehicle's receiver. The 'AutoAttach' expanding wedge system is accessed from the underside of the rack, and the dial itself is protected from the ground and debris by a skid plate. No more wrenches, sockets and fighting to get the rack and hitch connection to be wiggle-free, as tightening the wedge should take care of it. Thule has also included a steel 'stinger' of sorts that clips into the hole in your car's receiver that's usually reserved for a locking pin. You don't need a locking pin, remember, because of the AutoAttach dial's locking core. The idea with the stinger is to add a bit more safety, just in case someone forgets to tighten the wedge, or if there's a worst case scenario.
Thule T2 Pro review test
The 'stinger' bar adds a bit of safety.

The trays on the T2 Pro are much larger in size than the standard T2, and are home to folding arms that now have more clearance, along with front wheel trays that are shaped to work with everything from 23mm wide road bike tires to huge fat bike rubber. An adjustable and multi-position strap for the rear wheel is equally accommodating.


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test
Road bike, fat bike, and anything in between will fit into the T2 Pro's trays.


My number one complaint with most racks is how little clearance they afford in almost every regard, be it between the bikes themselves or between the rack and the ground, and it seems as though I'm not the only one out there who thinks that. Thule has added an extra inch between each tray that should limit the chance of contact, and the trays can also be slid laterally (but not horizontally relative to each other) to provide more clearance between the bikes. This isn't an on-the-fly job as it requires loosening four bolts per tray to make the adjustment, but it should only need to be done a single time.

According to Thule, they've increased the gap between the rack and the vehicle by a claimed forty percent, and this number, along with the claimed thirty-five percent increase in clearance when the rack is folded down to provide access to the back of your car, should make life easier.


Thule T2 Pro review test





Performance

The T2 Pro comes mostly disassembled in a big box, and it takes about fifteen minutes to get it all set up with the included hex keys. It's not a difficult job by any means, and anyone who can read, or even follow along to some illustrated instructions, should be able to bang it out pretty quickly. Fitting the three locking cores - one for each cable lock, and one at the AutoAttach expanding wedge system - took a few extra minutes with the supplied loading key, but it's all pretty simple. Also, no annoying locking pin required.


Thule T2 Pro review test


The AutoAttach expanding wedge system is pretty easy to use; you just turn the dial until everything snugs up, and then lock the core that gets slid into the end of the knob. There's zero rattling or play from the get-go, and the "stinger" clip adds some extra security. I backed the wedge off and tried to pull the rack out of my van's receiver, and while it was obviously loose, it wouldn't fall off and deposit my bike onto the road if I did happen to drive away while it was loose. But don't drive with it loose, though.

Bikes load the same as they do on any other tray-style rack, with the T2 Pro's ratcheting arms coming down firmly over the front wheel and the strap being fed over top of the rear wheel and ratcheting tight. The arm does make contact with the fork's front brake guide, or the fork itself, if you push it right up against the front of the bike, but you can leave an inch or so of space and have zero issues. The rear wheel strap is also long enough to easily snug down over any massive tire.


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test


With the trays in their stock, centered position, your bikes will likely see some handlebar and seatpost contact, but sliding each tray in the opposite direction by a few inches will alleviate this. The bikes feel very secure, with the ratcheting arms holding them firmly enough that I doubt any 4X4 road would be able to dislodge them, no matter how rough. The ratchets never backed off over time, either, and when it did come time to remove the bikes, they didn't ever jam up and become hard to release. I've used other racks that actually forced me to deflate my front tire a bit in order to relieve some pressure on the ratchet and release the arm's death grip on my bike, but not so with the T2 Pro, no matter how hard I pushed the arm down over the wheel.

The folding mechanism is also still free of any free play, and the release handle on the end of the rack is a nice touch that makes things a bit easier, especially if you have your hands full with dirty gear or a bag of groceries. It's the little things, right? And speaking of little things, I never got a chance to see how the cable locks stood up to a criminal, but they sure are easy to use. You do need the key to lock them, not just unlock them, but they don't rattle inside of the arms when they're stored away, and they're there when you do need them.


Thule T2 Pro review test
Thule T2 Pro review test


I have just two grumbles when it comes to the T2 Pro's performance. First, I mainly ride alone (if you met me, you'd realize why) and therefore it was the inner tray and arm that saw the very large majority of use. Now, after over six months of packing bikes around, the arm is noticeably looser than the outer arm that sees much less action. It's not going anywhere, but there's a bit of rattle to it. And secondly, the rear wheel strap for the same tray is looking a little worse for wear, only because of the amount of soot and diesel smoke that is shot out of my van's tailpipe from less than two feet away. The strap itself is also curling at the end a bit from the heat and smoke, which also makes it kinda hard to thread through the ratcheting buckle. This is my neglected van's fault, no doubt, but it's worth noting since I'm sure the T2 Pro will end up on similar vehicles, and I haven't seen this issue with any of the other racks I've had on my van.



Pinkbike’s Take:
bigquotesChoosing an expensive hitch rack is like choosing a partner for a long-term relationship - it has to be dependable, since it's going to be with you for years and years, and you'll probably never trust it again if it lets you down once. The ultra versatile T2 Pro held every bike I loaded onto it without complaint or issue, and, most of all, it's very easy and convenient to use. When it comes to bike racks, it's as close to being a long-term partner as I've ever found. - Mike Levy



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187 Comments
  • 80 15
 Buy a 1 up rack if your going to spend this amount of cash. I had a T2 pro and it sucked, the bikes always rubbed and you had to adjust your seat heights to prevent your brake levers from being smashed against the other bikes seat. Then the hitch tightening setup broke followed by the release lever to adjust the rack from folded to layed down to store bikes. Buy a 1up rack and you will up have no regrets.
  • 50 4
 I've never met a 1UpUSA owner that regretted the purchase. Best bike rack on the market.
  • 25 1
 @SpillWay: I regret my 1up purchase. I shoulda got the 1up rack that starts with 2 trays (instead of 1) so I could fit even more bikes on it Razz
  • 21 3
 1UP for the win!! This T2 may look nice for a couple of months, but all those plastic parts will crack and fade, the steel will rust, and ratchet straps are a joke. Contrast that with a 1up where all the parts are machined aluminum, and it's the quickest most secure rack out there. The grandkids will be fighting for your 1Up when you pass away.
  • 13 3
 ONEUP!! And their customer service is amazing! 3 of my friends bought oneup racks after seeing mine.
  • 10 2
 1up hands down...folds up nice, light weight, quality, replacement parts if needed. Hard to believe they havent been bought out yet.
  • 12 5
 I have had a T2 classic for about a year now. I LOVE IT. I go off roading all the time with it, super durable, holds the bikes incredible stable. I've only had an issue with rubbing once and id rather adjust my alignment then take the front wheel off. I did 3200 miles from California to Whistler to Alberta, then back to California and the rack held up the whole way. I own all thule products because for the price point, you cant beat that level of quality. Granted the First gen t2 pro (which you probably had) did have some malfunctions, but for the t2 classic, the thing is rock solid. Highly recommend it above other racks. It also has a double locking system so I never worry about my bike getting stolen.
  • 23 0
 @tb420 - Did you slide the trays laterally to re-position the two bikes relative to each other? That should easily sort out the issue. Anyways, I have a 1Up on test new. Review down the road.
  • 10 2
 Tried this rack, then tried the 1up. The 1up is hands down better. Faster, easier to setup (comes basically assembled), more modular (you can leave 1 rack on for all those solo riding trips and add trays as needed, trays take ~30 second to add/remove), more compact, but bikes don't touch. Add any combo coil bike lock and you have a lock system that naturally stays on the rack and is more secure than the Thule. Way faster easier to just open one end and close it vs. deal with a rear wheel strap and the thing that touches your fork.
  • 4 1
 just to hop on the Thule hate wagon: I had the rear-wheel strap of my Thule roof rack let go of a bike's wheel, which resulted in a pretty banged-up car. The bike was facing backwards, and after pivoting around the fork mount it landed half on the roof and haf on the rear windshield. The rail itself also broke. I am certain that I did not forget to tie that f*cking strap dowm because: 1) I had already been travelling about an hour on the highway before this happened. 2) Just to make sure, I made the experiment of driving down from my place towards the highway withouth the strap attached. I drove down slowly, but still the bike bounced off the rail before reaching the HW (three repetitions were enough confirmation for me). Thule did replace the broken rail, but they did not take any responsibility for the damage to the car...
  • 8 1
 Another long time satisfied 1-Up customer. Owned all the other brands but then finally saw the way. Doesn't matter what bike is on the rack, most people would rather talk about the 1-Up.
  • 5 8
 Yeah but the 1-up doesn't work for fat bikes! *ducks book thrown at head
  • 10 2
 @ryan83: Yes they do....https://www.1upusa.com/product-spacerkit.html
  • 9 5
 1UP makes the best rack. Thule is cheap plastic garbage mixed with low grade steel that rusts. 1UP is made from all aluminum that is anodized, like much of your bike components.
  • 1 0
 @dmarsh15: thanks! I'm actually in the market for a rack and that was the one thing keeping this off the list. I am concerned though that once the kit is installed it won't fit my normal bike tire. So you would have to disassemble so switch back/forth? My Kuat NV core does a great job of holding any bike by comparison....if it just would stop falling a part.
  • 4 2
 I have had Thule T2 for 10 years with no issue.. recently backed it into a tree, oops.. Got a prodeal from thule for a new one, wanted to try the 1 up, but they give no deals to anyone... Happy with my t2
  • 5 3
 @ryan83: Regular sized bike tires will work with the adapters installed. The rack still pinches down on the same spot of the tires. The wheels never make contact with the side supports anyways.

@billybobzia: The reason why Thule can offer such a good deal is because it is all cheap molded plastic and cheap metal. Their markup on it is crazy. Now when you compare to 1UP racks, there is literally hardly any markup because of the quality materials they use. I'm a mechanical engineer and I know the labor costs associated with machining all of the parts required for the rack.
  • 7 2
 Couldn't agree more, had a subpar experience with Thule and Kuat, so happy to have a 1UP. I'd legitimately advise spending extra money on a 1UP than on an upgrade to your bike
  • 3 0
 @mikelevy: sure did, they do not have enough space between the mounts and do not slide far enough apart to make it work with the dozens of bikes we have tried on the rack. The new model that is on its way has been redesigned with more space between them and a longer channel to slide them side to side to allow you to not touch the other bike. If it worked why did they change it? It does not work
  • 1 0
 I hate my Thule because it is not easy to slide the trays to fit my enduro and my dh bike. Levers rub, Droppers get broken, It just plain sucks
  • 4 2
 @tb420: Was it the previous version of the T2 or the new T2 Pro tested here that you had those clearance issue with? Sorry, just not clear. We need rack spacing standard haha! Boost rack.
  • 1 0
 @ryan83: It's self-centering, there is no problem with using the spacer kit with a regular tire... think of it this way, if the tire being narrower than the arms was a problem, you wouldn't be able to use the regular 1up with a road bike.
  • 5 0
 I haven't even seen the 1Up rack but I already like it, after all the comments...
  • 4 0
 @ryan83: 1Up USA sells a kit of spacers and bolts to make the rack fat bike-compatible (5" wide tires). Just did it on mine and it works perfectly...
  • 1 0
 @ryan83: No, it just fits the normal tires totally fine.
  • 4 1
 Once you go with 1UP, all other racks just fade into the distance. Worth every penny.
  • 2 0
 @LkWebz: Same. I've had the new generation T2 Classic 4-bike tray for a season now and I love it. We wanted to switch from a roof rack system to a tray so that my wife could transport the family bikes any time I wasn't around. I have absolutely no complaints about the T2 Classic (although I'm sure there are better racks out there). It's well-made, adjustable in terms of the width between bikes and the center position of the supports, is extremely stable, and is easy to load/unload. I did look at the T2 Pro, but for the extra money, it wasn't worth it for me. The other thing that's great about Thule, is if you break or damage it, replacement parts are always readily available. If I have one complaint, it's maybe a bit on the heavy side (my wife can't put it on the car by herself), but I think it's comparable to other similar racks.
  • 2 0
 @jrocksdh: I hope 1UP are never bought out or what happened to Arbutus racks will be 1Ups fate: ABOMINATION!
  • 1 0
 So, looking at the 1Up website, it appears there is no movement between trays in any direction. Plus, the bikes mount perfectly flat (as opposed to Kuat, Thule in which they are slightly tilted in relation to each other).

Why do the bikes not rub on the 1Up but they do rub on all the other racks?
  • 5 0
 @dsirl: because the arms let you lock the bike in any position on the tray. you can damn near have a wheel off the edge of tray, & the arms will still hold it from moving. When I put my bike on the rack by itself, I put it in the center. When I put two bikes on, the contact patch of the front tire is almost at the edge of the tray.
  • 10 0
 +1 for 1upUSA. Best thing about it is the ability to run single tray for all the solo rides. Worst thing about it is realizing I have no friends Frown
  • 1 0
 How many truck lease paymemts that?
  • 3 0
 @dsirl: The reason that you don't get interference with a 1-up is because each bike tray is slightly higher than the one before it. So the tray closest to the hitch is the lowest and as you move back, each successive tray is higher. This is a brilliant and simple solution that effectively eliminates interference all together. But for some reason no one else seems to have been able to figure this basic concept.
  • 2 0
 Fun Fact about 1UP racks: You can mount just the wheels with tires in the trays. Say you have an extra wheelset but no room in the car, just mount on your second tray...
  • 1 0
 Since this has become the 1UP thread: do you need to break out tools to change to other wheel sizes? I'm not thinking 27.5 vs 29, but an adult bike vs a kids (20"). Right now, we can fit all bikes plus a good bit of luggage in the back of the mini van. As soon as the oldest moves up to a 24, that won't be the case. And the roof rack it too high for my wife, so (long term) in the market for one of these. The other I was considering was the new rocky mounts with the swing away feature, but 1UP is where I'm leaning.
  • 2 0
 @feldybikes: Yes, you need a ratchet or wrench to move the endpiece to a lower hole for a 24" (my DJ is currently a 24".) However, each position fits a variety of bikes, with the rack in the second position for 24", the only bike I couldn't carry without moving it was 29".
  • 2 0
 @feldybikes : I am able to transport a 29" and a 24" with meaty tires on my 1upUSA with the arms in the default positions. However, I need to be very careful in the bike placement to ensure the arms hold the 24" bike firmly and to ensure the arms don't rub the brake rotor or brake calipers. It is a very close fit.
  • 2 0
 @SpillWay: do you an older one-up? one of the running changes they made were longer arms to better secure bikes like 29+. If you have an older rack, your default position is equivalent to the 2nd position on the newer racks.
  • 1 2
 I dont care how good Oneup is, I can't even have a double bike rack with my 1.25'' hitch... wtf!? I know you americans all have big trucks but come on...

I'll buy a T2 Classic too. I didn't even bother to read this review as I already read that it was crap compared to the classic, plus it cost at least 150 more!! (cad)
  • 1 0
 I'll add my +1 to the OneUp comments. Love mine as a single bike carrier, still need to buy the second tray and maybe a third who knows. Sadly everyone wants to pedal these days so I rarely need more than the one tray.
  • 1 0
 I 100% agree about buying a different rack, this was considered garbage in my book simply from the frustration I experienced, I'm glad i'm not the only one!
  • 1 1
 @SpillWay: yes I can run 26, 27.5 or 29" wheels no problem without having to adjust anything.
  • 3 0
 @Timo82: don't know where you got that info, but it's wrong. you can put up to 3 trays on the 1.25" receiver model.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: Yes, I've had mine for 4 years. That may explain the difference. For @feldybikes sake, it sounds like (unconfirmed by me) you could setup the new rack to accommodate both 29" and 24" without changing each time -- just changing it once the first time the rack is installed.
  • 2 0
 @SpillWay: I had to move mine for 29". I could fit 24"-650b, or 26"-29", range wise. HOWEVER, i just had an idea: only shorten one arm, not two. I bet that would work. I don't have a 29er right now to check, but I'll try it with the 24" when I get home, & check with my buddies 29" next time I'm at his house. might be a couple days.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: Yeah you're right! We have to click on the single bike rack and then they tell us that you can add 2 others! I don't know why they don't sell it right away for 2 or 3 bikes but anyway..good to know, thanks for the info!! Smile
  • 2 0
 @Timo82: Because being able to add trays as you need them is awesome. Name another bike rack that can be configured so that your rear hatch can be opened, or carry 3 bikes? The only ones I can think of don't really let you easily switch it up, you can add/remove trays in seconds on the 1-up. Also, you can buy a kit so you can use the same trays as roof racks if you need to.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: Yeah, the 3 bikes on a 1.25'' hitch is a big, big plus!!
  • 1 0
 I really liked my 1up until it went from my Subaru to my truck and saw a lot more washboard dirt roads. Now it constantly keeps loosening on me every time I am on a bumpy road. I would much rather have a regular hitch pin. Does anyone else have this problem?
  • 1 0
 @mwmiller3: Never in 4 years of owning it. Maybe you arent putting it tight enough?
  • 1 0
 @mwmiller3: Don't be afraid to really tighten it down. I've never had mine come loose in any conditions.
  • 1 0
 @mwmiller3: Yes, it's a fairly common problem among people I know with them. I just keep the wrench in the car & check it periodically. @TheFunkyMonkey is right, you really can crank it down, though.

Also, I believe they do sell a hitch pin for them on their website.
  • 2 0
 @groghunter , @TheFunkyMonkey : Thanks. I have been keeping the wrench in the car, but it is still more of a pain then I expected having to tighten it when the road gets bumpy, especially when the truck rocks side to side. It is still my favorite rack, and I have a NRS strap as a backup, so I am not too worried, just wanted to see if it was my rack or something to watch out for.
  • 21 0
 That is a very good deal, especially considering it's a carbon frame.
  • 11 0
 don't forget the sealed bearings
  • 3 31
flag poozank (Nov 2, 2016 at 19:42) (Below Threshold)
 This was a review of the rack not the bike
  • 44 0
 @poozank: Yes, this Ghost Folding Hitch Style Rack not only climbs like an XC bike, but also descends like a downhill bike.
  • 11 1
 I personally like the two-bike add-on price of $399.95 USD, now thats not 2 bad.
  • 6 0
 Confidence inspiring .
  • 19 3
 OneUp > All
  • 3 0
 Unless you have a truck and want to be able to drop your tailgate. My northshore rack on my tacoma allows it without have to do anything to the rack, with or without bikes on it. But the one up was def something I was looking at getting as well.
  • 4 0
 @weezyb: OneUp and North Shore are definitely different but at the top of their respective class. Depends on what vehicle you're plugging it in, I think. Trucks and vans that punch through the air, makes more sense to run the NS. On a smaller car, I like a OneUp.
Mostly though, I like having no plastic to bake in the sun. Cruising down the freeway with expensive toys out back is not a good time for plastic to fail.
  • 2 0
 @kingsx: I wish someone made a lovechild of a RockyMount Mono Swing and 1Up. All aluminum but able to swing out of the way of tailgate or hatch.
  • 11 1
 1Up review is coming - I just installed their rack on the back of my van. A review is probably six months or more out, however, as I'll need to use for awhile. It's pretty neat.
  • 1 0
 @PHeller: Amen to that! Add to that a sloped bar/tiered racks (to minimize drag potential on water bar crossings and 4x roads) and you have a winner. Make it reasonably priced and i'll do things i'm not proud of. I'm kinda amazed there is nothing out there like this.
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy: Excellent!
  • 1 0
 @lostlunchbox: you could kinda make something similar by combining a 1Up Quik Rack + Add On = $500 and a Swinging hitch attachment for $169 but most of the swinging mounts aren't very low profile (or lightweight) and would stick out a good 10"-12".
  • 12 2
 Should have mounted 2 bikes for this review. The claimed 1" added gap between trays has done nothing to fix the same old Thule problem. No matter how I set it up, the 2 bikes will always touch each other and rub. I have to use a piece of foam in between to protect the fork from rubbing on the seat stay of the other bike. This is a major inconvenience for such an expensive rack.
  • 7 1
 I've had two bikes mounted on the T2 Pro quite often, and for plenty of long drives, and never experienced the issue that you're describing - weird. One bike's fork is rubbing on the other's seat stay?
  • 10 4
 I've used and owned several T2's. I've never even seen the problem your describing. Try setting up your rack correctly.
  • 1 1
 @mikelevy: I have the same problem with a Thule Rideon 2-Bike, it looks like there is a bit more space between bikes on the T2 Pro. Basically yeah the one bike's fork rubs on the other's seat stay, chain stay or quick release lever depending on how the bikes line up (wheel size, wheelbase etc.).
  • 2 1
 @mikelevy: sorry, meant to say the clamping arm rubs on the seat stay. I have moved the trays side to side to see if there was a nuetral position, but to no avail.
  • 2 1
 @Nobble: meant to say clamping arm rubbing on seat stay, not the fork on seat stay.
You didn't experience it once with all those racks? How did you avoid it? I have made a adjustments laterally and it still hasn't fixed it.
  • 14 1
 Why in god's name would I buy this when I can buy a 4 bike North Shore Rack for LESS money?
  • 3 1
 A lot of carbon mtb's don't play well with the Northshore racks. Evil, Devinci, and many others. Head tube is too thick. I won't put my bike in a Northshore Rack. Recon Racks seem to be better, and have the same upright stance as a NShore if you want it behind a van or RV. Lower profile of Thule, Yak or 1UP is better for sedans or small SUV's to you don't rip your bikes off in a garage or kill your gas mileage.
  • 1 1
 @JustinVP: you can fix that problem (the "tines" of the fork mount are steel, so just bend them a bit wider) but i deffinitely had problems with my Spartan on friends' NS racks. Also, the Pike RCs have cheaper paint than the RCT3s, so the NS rack added some shiny spots to my fork pretty quick.
  • 8 1
 I'm not sure how it works in Canada, but over here in Europe you need lights and a licence plate holder on a rack like that. Does Thule come with a separate unit that somehow mounts to the rack or is this rack simply not for the European market?
  • 1 0
 I would imagine that's something that's easily available in Europe. I switched the Thule website to show that I was in Europe, and the racks have a place to mount a licence plate and have lights.
  • 2 0
 It's kinda an open problem in the US. basically all bike racks are illegal, but the law is hardly ever enforced. With license plate scanners showing up on cruisers now, there's definitely been an uptick in "informative" police stops in my locality.

Bike groups in one state (I forget which) managed to lobby for a bill to allow bike racks with a second paper plate (like a temp tag) attached to the back window. The problem is that in many other states, unless your rack is for a handicaped rack(like for a wheelchair) they won't give you a second plate, forcing you to remove the plate from your car to attach it to your rack. Which sucks if you ever take your rack off.
  • 4 0
 @groghunter: I was pulled over, for this reason, a few years ago while driving through Idaho with four bikes on the back of my van. He gave me a warning and I've never had another issue in the US or Canada.
  • 5 0
 @mikelevy: Yea, you know how traffic cops are, especially in small towns (which is basically all there is in Idaho, lol) if they they think you "ain't from round here" you're getting pulled over for anything.

However, the story I told about the patrol car license plate readers being blocked, causing better enforcement of the law is based on a conversation a coworker had with a cop that pulled him over a few months ago. The way he explained it is that they're focusing on the issue now, not issuing tickets, but pulling people over & explaining the law, & that it will be better enforced now that they have a real test of visibility. Before, the law basically just said "it has to be visible" which means you could argue all sorts of stuff about how you can read it through the bike. For instance, my plate is pretty much visible between the downtube & fork if I only have one bike on the rack.

Now, however, the law(at least in AZ) has been amended to read that any plate that can't be read by an automated scanner doesn't meet the standard for "visible." Which means pretty much any plate that isn't mounted completely clear of obstruction.

At least where I'm from, this is a problem that's going to boil over sooner rather than later.
  • 1 0
 @groghunter: Interesting. In Europe it's pretty cheap to get a "trailer board" with space for a number plate and standardised connector to hook up to your trailer hitch electrics.

> The problem is that in many other states, unless your rack is for a handicaped rack(like for a wheelchair) they won't give you a second plate, forcing you to remove the plate from your car to attach it to your rack. Which sucks if you ever take your rack off.

This surprises me, here in the UK at least you can just buy an extra number plate from a garage (I even got one off eBay), you tell them your reg number and they'll make you up a plate while you wait. What happens if you break a plate? Or it falls off your car and you lose it while driving or something?
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 @wisey: In Arizona, & many other states in the US, plates are controlled items. If I lost a plate, I'd have to file paperwork with the DMV about it, & I can't guarantee I'd get the same plate # as a replacement. All plates are issued by the DMV.
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 But Mike, I probably won't get a chance to meet you, why do you usually ride alone?!?
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 Because he's a Lone Wolf.
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 @Dwdrums00: One man wolf pack.
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 Because when he rides alone, he prefers to be by himself.
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 Overpriced plastic piece of shit!
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 The highly coveted 1986 Delica.
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 Ahem, 1990. She's my soulmate.
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 @mikelevy: If you are serious about fuzzing out your plates, do a better job ;-)

Love a good soulmate vehicle.
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 @mikelevy: The SEX sticker on the back is a nice touch!
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 why do people do this?
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 obscuring license plates, that is
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 @owl-X: so that someone else with the same vehicle doesn't clone the plates and run up loads of parking/speeding fines that then get billed to you
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 Although granted it can't be that risky given you can just look for suitable cars in real life!
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 @mikelevy: YEAH.... one day i am going to import one from Taiwan w/ left drive... one day...
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 In my opinion, everyone should start out with a cheap bike rack, it makes you a better rider. I have one given to me that straps onto the back of a car or van and carries two 30lb. bikes with ease. Granted , it does'nt make Espresso or dispense cold beer like this one does.
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 What I find strange is that people compare the Thule said it is cheaply made it is actually very well made. I folowed 4 diffrent bike racks as we drove 1500 to go race the Maah Daah Hey. You see all the bike racks on the road that have 1 and 1/2 inch piping and they sway all the time the Thule is solid and the Kuat. I need to post some photos were got rear ended and my rack went into a denali till the 4rack and the rack is solid . That I have photos and proof of a Oneup would flolded and I would have lost my bikes.
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 So I recently purchased the T2 Pro after my T2 Classic was destroyed when I was rear ended while at a stop light. I found this review and was curious about the 1UP after reading all the comments. I was at my LBS today and I spotted one on a vehicle in the parking lot. For all you that have posted all these great things about the 1UP all I can say is you either work for 1UP or you are all fake users posting this to market the product. After looking at the 1UP on that vehicle today I can't believe what a POS it is. It's made of cheap aluminum that looks like it was purchased at Home Depot and some kid in shop class put it together on a shoestring budget. The 1UP is absolutely the worst rack I have ever seen. Anyone reading this review can just ignore all the fake comments about the 1UP. It's terrible build quality and complete lack of style is horrible at best. Buy the Thule and be done with it!
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 Funny comparaison between a partner and a bike rack @mikelevy !
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 I want a 1up or recon,it all comes down to what vehicle you plan to use it on though
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 I'm guessing that 1up doesn't ever pay for advertising...if they did Thule, Yakima and Kuat wouldn't sell a single plastic thing.
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 Strange that it wasnt in a recent issue of bike with 5 others reviewed.
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 I have a 1Up on my van right now, but I'll need to use it for at least six months or more before you'll see the review. It's pretty neat, and very different.
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 @mikelevy: did 1up send it to you for review? Do you think that they will take your suggestions seriously? If so I'd love it if the rack had only metric bolts on it. I hear that there excuse is that they are an American company so they use SAE instead of metric, but there is at least one metric bolt on my 1up rack.

Not a huge issue, unless I'm on a week long trip to Moab and one of the bolts gets a lil loose...for some reason I never remember to bring my SAE Allen wrenches with me...
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 @unrooted: I just bought some cheap SAE wrenches and keep them in the car with the 1UP keyed Allen.
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 @unrooted: Yup, it was sent in for review.
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 Thule's flat racks all seem to have rubbing issues. I have the thule raceway pro and no way is it worth the 350$ I spent on it...the beds are flimsy, the locking latches on them break and bend all the time, and the arms that come over them come loose. Also, the ratcheting mechanisms to hold it onto the car aren't very strong at all. The bikes will always rub against each other, there's paint gone from every fork of every bike bigger than a road bike that's been on it.

Their roof racks are nice though...
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 Looks like little was done to fix my biggest gripe with the last gen T2. That lock sucks! Because the cable is being forced into a loop, the friction on the lock makes it a burden to open after a year of sitting on the outside of your car.
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 Why the hype around 'no need for a locking pin'?

First thing I've done with every rack is to add a locking pin to ensure it stays in my possession until I decide to sell it.
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 I'm waiting for a hitch rack that swings out of the way (rather than tilts downward) or an add on that allows it to do so. I'm willing to bolt things to my frame.

I have a van set up for camping and the only problem is that my rack with bikes blocks access to the rear door where most of the gear is stashed. I could put the bikes on a roof rack but as the van is probably 6' high or so without good rails to stand on, that's difficult for me and impossible for my shorter wife. Plus it hurts my already questionable aerodynamics.

Anyone know of anything that's somewhat affordable?
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 Tune into Recon Racks...it's coming. 5 bikes one handed operation. No need to put your beer down!
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 Did you have any rattling issues when the rack is in the upright position?
I just picked up a T2 Pro, and that's my biggest complaint at the moment.

It has a tiny bit of wiggle room when up. Usually my music is on, so I don't even realize it though.

I'de say 9/10 after a few months of use. The versatility to go from my BMX setup to my Ibis HD3 is pretty rad!
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 Nope, no rattle that I can hear. Is it from the hitch/receiver connection?
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 Did you ever figure out how to stop this rattle? I just bought a brand new T2 Pro from REI and it does the same thing. Rattles when in the upright position. Thanks!
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 I have Thule trays on top of my car. The thruride 535.. its so sturdy and easy to use. Clamps right to a thru axle. F'ing love it. That being said.. If I go for a hitch mount tray, those 1ups sound like they give the same sturdiness and reliability
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 I recently purchased a T2 pro thinking it could replace my tried and true T2, unfortunately I was extremely disappointed with the performance for a $500+ rack. I'm returning mine and getting T2 Classic because it was pathetic when I tried to load two similar bikes on there the bike on bike contact I experienced gave me a headache. I thought that if I was buying such a high end rack, I could place two bikes on without having to spend 20 minutes disassembling it. That's just my experience, I think its a poor performing rack for the $500+ but I will say, the handle at the end is awesome..so there's that..
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 Why not just buy a swagman G10 2 bike for $420 can? More adjustments , instead of using a cable to lock the bike to the rack the ratcheting system for the same that clamps on the frame has a built in lock. The rack slide back if you need to open your trunk or tail gate and it's quite a bit cheaper . Only down side is the fatbike trays are $45 can
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 The original T2 was a POS. Had a Kuat NV and it was marginally better. Just ordered a North Shore and am hopeful I won't need another rack for at least 10 years.
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 As someone who had a Sportwerks T2 before Thule bought them out, the Thule versions have always been a disappointment in durability comparatively.
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 Witter ZX404 is the one, purchased one this year. Easy to fit, tilts with or without bikes on to get into the boot.

Will carry 4 XC/AM rigs or 3 DH! I love it, got a removable Tow bar hitch too so when I'm not using it you can't even tell my car has a tow bar.
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 Do the bikes not rub on each other? I have Thule RideOn 2-bike and it looks like it has more space between bikes than your Witter but they still rub...
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 @vinay I emailed Thule about T2 Classic being available in Euro zone (Tow ball, lights kit and ID plates). This Product is only available on the American market, not on the European market.

@Garpur44 the arms of the rack going through the frame of a full suss bike is a pain in the @ss

I replaced my old Atera strada (3+1 bikes) with the Saris Euro Freedom 2 bikes (no ratcheting arm, only 2 bikes and no add on kit available).

I have not been able to find a tow ball to hitch converter (I did found hitch to tow ball) or adapt a tow ball lock on the 'hitch side of the rack'

some light on this subject would be very welcome
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 @LuisCR: I've not found that an issue. once you have worked out the order you want the bikes in and set up once that's it. Not more fiddling and the arms really secure the bikes.

@wisey I've not had any issue with the bike rubbing. You may need to raise or drop a seat post here or there but no issues to date.

A few pics in action

www.pinkbike.com/photo/14109832

www.pinkbike.com/photo/14109831

www.pinkbike.com/photo/14109829
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 @Garpur44: Interesting! I appreciate the pics! I wonder what is different about our racks then, perhaps you load the bikes better than me.
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 @wisey No worries, you have to have a little play the first time you mount them and move them all a little fore and aft until they are all held securely without touching but once you have done that providing you load the bikes in the same order I don't seem to have any problems.
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 @Garpur44: 'once you have worked out the order you want the bikes in and set up once that's it'

It has been my procedure the last 7 years, but since I have to replace the rack and in the market are available ratcheting type. It is quite frustrating that I can not use it due a technical standard issue

www.isi-carriers.com and www.1upusa.com looks great
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 @LuisCR: They both look good to me, I like the look of the ISI
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 @Garpur44: Might have to spend a bit more time doing that when I load my rack up next time. I've just been using some packing that came with one of my bikes to pad between them. Thanks for the input!
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 I swore I'd never buy another overpriced Thule product again. Everything is of such poor quality. Would it kill any of the makers to use some stainless steel hardware here and there?
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 It's been said a few times here already, but a 1up USA is what you're after sir. corrosion problems aren't with annodized alu.
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 Get a 1UP......you can see the number of comments here on the 1UP.......so much better than any other rack......don't waste your money on anything else.
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 I bought a similar Yakima Holdup rack. Still works after a few years. The arms when over tightened (nobody wants their bike falling off) tend to make the pivot sloppy causing the bikes to lean a bit.
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 The unfortunate part about their locking cable is that it is too small in diameter and way too easy to cut through. I would suggest its almost required to have a secondary lock on this to prevent / deter any thefts.
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 The best feature on this rack is that they say its designed to accommodate fate bikes but the rear strap is too short to accommodate a fat bike, small detail like that and suddenly $500 is even more ridiculous
  • 1 0
 I own this rack and love it. Only issue is that the wheelbase adjustment could be a little longer. I have an XL downhill bike and it maxes out the rear wheel tray/strap.
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 What is your work around for that.
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 @DownhillRacer13: I just put the slider back as far as it goes and strap it down. It's only like 10 or 15mm off being perfectly under the rear wheel on an XL session.
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 why don't they sell this kind of "lock down on the wheels" racks in Europe? Is that legislation? They should be able to build these to fit a ball hitch.
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 I Was on the search for a decent 'ratchet arm style' rack last summer and I emailed Thule about T2 Classic being available in Euro zone (Tow ball, lights kit and ID plates). This is their answer:

Bästa kund,
Tack för ert e-mail och ert intresse för våra produkter.

This Product is only available on the American market, not on the European market.

Om ni har fler frågor är ni välkomna att kontakta oss.
Vi önskar er en trevlig dag.

Med vänliga hälsningar
Emma
Thule kundservice

I ended up with the Saris Euro Freedom 2 bikes (no ratcheting arm, only 2 bikes and no add on kit available).
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 @LuisCR: Shame they didn't give you more of a reason as to why... The ones with the ratcheting arms and add-on kits always seem to have no lights and registration plate holder, could be something to do with it. It surprises me that in the US you don't seem to legally need these things.
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 @wisey: Right! p.e. The Saris Freedom 2 has an add on kit in american market (hitch mount) but it is not available in Euro zone (tow ball).

I'm tempted to buy another Freedom 2 and hack the damn thing. But it will void any CE marking
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 @LuisCR: Yeah, I mean I don't know how difficult that would be. Shame they don't sell the 4 bike version in the Eurozone :/
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 @wisey: Look for my other post for more detail, but no, these aren't technically legal in the US. The law's just not been enforced. License plate must be visible & lighted, these racks don't provide that.

@LuisCR I know you already bought a new rack, but if you do want all those features you listed, 1up USA makes one that has everything you wanted, & sells a plate holder + light attachment.
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 @groghunter: Interesting! I have replied to that comment.
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 @groghunter: in the states the racks are fine without lighting and plates as long as there's a bike on the rack. Its technically only illegal to drive around with an empty rack. But it's also allowable if you recently dropped off or on the way to pick up a bike. Which is actually what most people are doing anyway.
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 @groghunter: They told me they have something like that in development, but it is not really available yet. do you have any intel i might have missed? I'd get an Euro-1Up instantly.
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 @dirteveryday: you are wrong. one of my co-workers got pulled over in the last 6 months. Look at my other comment where I spell out what's going on in more detail, but it's enough of an issue that a bunch of bike groups got together & got a law to allow a second plate for bike rack users in one state.

@meph They have 2 websites for some reason, with different stock on each. One address is hyphenated, one isn't. I can't browse the hyphenated one from work for some reason, but browse through the stuff here & you should find it. www.1up-usa.com/product-category/accessories
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 @groghunter: I build and sell bike racks. I sell bike racks to police officers and sheriffs. I have printed documents sitting RIGHT HERE explaining the laws and requirements that they supplied me with.
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 @dirteveryday: Let's see, half a second on google shows it's illegal in:

Michigan: www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2016/09/ask_a_trooper_bike_rack_block.html

Pennsylvania: www.harrisburgbicycleclub.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=937:bike-racks-and-visibility-of-vehicle-license-plate&catid=1:latest

Nevada: www.reddit.com/r/BurningMan/comments/3dv4me/advice_on_bike_rack_covering_license_plate

Arizona: forums.teamestrogen.com/showthread.php?t=53098 (additionally, my coworker was pulled over in a Tucson suburb.)

Missouri: mobikefed.org/FightTheBikeRackTicket

Pretty much every state in the union has a law requiring your plate be "plainly visible and legible." Bike racks block them. Pretty much every rack for a wheelchair has a plate holder on it, do you think they did that just for funsies? The difference is, many states won't issue you another plate for your rack like they do for wheelchair racks.

Bike rack companies have gotten away with selling them through blind luck, & maybe saying "it's a temporary rack" but they've pretty much all been illegal since the get go, but enforcement is stepping up because they interfere with automated plate readers. Glad I could spend time googling for you that you could have done yourself, & retyping what I already said in another comment, that you couldn't be bothered to read.
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 @groghunter: already told you I have everything right here, you wasted your own time. Not sure what your endgame is here...either you work for 1up or they promised you a free rack for "scaring" people into a purchase? Intersting approach. But A for effort.
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 @dirteveryday: To prevent you from convincing people that there they don't need to worry about this, when in fact it is rapidly becoming an issue in most places. You have paperwork that says they're legal? goody. maybe it's even true in your locality. People in other places are getting pulled over for it. You gonna indemnify people you sell your rack to for the tickets? Arizona one was $197. You'd know that if you were willing to actually consider that you could be wrong, because I've shown you how you are repeatedly, with easy, clickable links.

So again, people: this dude doesn't know what he's talking about. Don't trust me, research it yourself, read my links or go find your own info, but bike racks that do not display a plate are illegal, & enforcement is stepping up.

Oh, & your insinuation that I'm a shill? A for effort, F for it being a logical fallacy, & another F for it not even making sense. You can get plate holders for lots of racks, nothing I've said favors 1up in any way.
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 @groghunter: you should probably calm down. Maybe go ride a bike instead of yelling from your soap box and calling everyone ignorant. Everyone knows. I personally have license plate mounts available for the racks. I sold maybe a dozen and most didn't even install them. I actually pulled them off the site to make room for other new things.
Unlike your hunting down stories on the internet, I stopped in and spoke with the Highway Patrol 4 years ago and this was discussed in depth.
Keep in mind there's also quite a difference between a tray style rack flipped up behind a car and a vertical rack with a minimalistic design right from the start.
I'm done here, you sound crazy and I have no time for crazy. Gotta get back to shipping out these ticket magnets...
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 @dirteveryday: Crazy is refusing to even consider another viewpoint, even when they provide several backing sources(one of the links I provided was a direct interview with a Michigan Highway Patrol officer, BTW.) Crazy is ignoring all evidence that contradicts your narrow view of a subject. f*ck's sake, Mike Levy commented on this exact article that he was pulled over in Idaho a few years ago. If I read as loud & upset, it's because it's frustrating talking to someone who's attitude resembles a petulant toddler refusing to eat his dinner.

I'll leave you with this: License plate readers being ubiquitous on cop cars? Not something that was happening 4 years ago. Maybe somebody in the business of building bike racks should pay attention to how the law relating to their legality changes more frequently than once every 4 years.
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 Why dont they offer those in the EU, I had one like this in canada this summer and its heaps better than the frame mounted system we use here in Germany! Thule bring it on!
  • 1 0
 Hmmm. Rack with plastic parts melting and drooping over time. I'd rather stick to racks that stay firm and in good shape for my frame.
  • 1 0
 No hitch rack is perfect except for maybe 1up or Kuat (NS destroy your forks) but Thule has forever been absolute garbage... how much did they pay you Mike?
  • 1 0
 Has anyone ever tried one of these on a Thule T2? It would at least solve the plate issue for daytime driving.
www.etrailer.com/search/Plate+Holder
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 Just my 2 cents...
www.isi-carriers.com

After having several bike racks, nothing even comes close IMHO Wink
  • 3 1
 When's the review of that shock coming out...seriously!
  • 1 0
 Recon looks like a pretty sick alternative to tray racks. My buddy welded a similar rack and I hope to do the same..
  • 1 0
 Always awesome hearing about someone ripping off another hard working persons way to make a living. Good for you.
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 @dirteveryday: In no way did he rip off Recon. I meant it more as the rack had a similar style. He completely designed it from the ground up and Recons are obviously more refined. If both of us weren't poor engineering students, we would both love to support an awesome company such as Recon by buying one of their racks.
  • 2 0
 and how much fun does that Ghost look?
  • 2 0
 Trump Steaks are the best steaks.
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 Ok problems witht he reveiw. A it fantastick rack I owend the one with 4 bikes.

Here is the faults reviewss leave out.

A. the rack can only cary fatbikes with 170 rear spacing any thing wider like most fattire bikes the arm tahat holds the front wheel with push agains the rear axcel of the second bike. The bikes for Fattires the second 3 /4 need to be half inch futher..

Even with 148 it tight. even if you move the racks to extraam opisits sides that they can slide.

B the rear sliding brakets with straps are awesome but the little screw that prevents thm from sliding of the arms should have lot bigger screw head or stick out longer for they can slide off.

I Had been rear ended and this is the strongest rack in the market I have the photos to prove it. Next the service and suport then to get parts is amazing and what a pleasure.

I know bought new Kuat and I miss the Thule every day . The kaut don't come close when coms to streanth although looks strong to the Thule. Next the Kuats straps for fat tires are after thoughts and disgrace for that pprice rack. The Kuat arms also are not as good position ast the thule. I had a Fttire bike that got puncher and had to pump it every hour but obvoisly on 1500 mile journey you don't and it still due to the shape of the arm held the bike safely inplace the whole way.
Here the Thule outshines the Kuat again. Even in diffrent tire sizes the shape of the arms part that go over the wheel is lot better designed.
If you don't have 2 or 4 fat tires . This the best rack on the market. I not owend a ONEUP so apart from expericae with that I owend pretty much all the rest.
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 Good point with the fat bikes - I don't have any of them in the stable right now, especially one with mega wide axle spacing, to mount on the T2 Pro. Maybe sliding the trays laterally would solve the contact issue, though? Not sure how much clearance you'd need, but it'd be interesting to find out if it'd work. I did have Boost-spaced bikes on the rack without any issues.

Never had an issue with the rear wheel clamps coming off the end of the trays, but good to note.
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 @mikelevy: I own the T2 Pro and sliding the trays doesn't make a difference. The 197 TA rear end hits the arm of the bike next to it. It needs a minimum 2" more clearance to fit more than one 197MM rear end fat bike on this rack. This is a serious flaw in this product, especially since it is marketed as a 2-bike carrier, and 5" tire fat bike compatible. I guess they never stated 2 x 5" tire fat bikes specifically.... Just 2-bikes and 5" tire trays in separate selling points.

I bought it knowing this issue, but only because I was able to get a pro-deal on this rack and not on any other brand.
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 Thule is coming out with new version (T2 Pro XT) that addresses the axle spacing issue and should accommodate 197mm spacing. It will also come in black.
  • 1 0
 What bike rack... I couldn't stop looking at the bike!
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 That car is hilarious
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 NORTH SHORE RACKS
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 Nah I'd rather my kuate NV 2..0
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 "the trays can also be slid laterally (but not horizontally)"

Say what?
  • 1 0
 who else just had eyes for the red ghost?
  • 1 0
 @thats cause its happened to my friend before.
  • 1 0
 NO WAY......someone bought a ghost. mental.
  • 1 0
 He never said how much this thing weighs?
  • 2 0
 jest get a pickup truck
  • 1 0
 Thule locks....aka false sense of security.
  • 1 0
 Nobody talked about that Cane Creek shock?! Is the review coming soon?
  • 1 0
 DELICA!!!
  • 1 0
 North Shore or BUST
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