Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6

Aug 7, 2014
by Nathan Hughes  


TEAM AMERICA





There's no 'I' in 'Team America'. Except for the fact there is... And those at the sharp end of the 2014 DH series know it only too well. Each one of them is out for themselves, looking for the win that can push them out in front. Or in the case of Troy Brosnan, further out in front. The young Australian sits in the season-long hot seat, on top of the pile with 799 points, closely followed by Britain's Josh 'Ratboy' Bryceland on 757 and team-mate Aaron 'all-American' Gwin on 727. As we now head south from Quebec for round 6, Sam Hill is dangerously close to the front of the pack with Atherton, Minnaar and Hart all in hot in pursuit like gorillas chasing a man with a front pocket full of blueberries. The East Coast track of Windham where we now find ourselves, has a short 3 year downhill history and only 2 winners. Atherton stole the overall from Minnaar here back in 2010 and Aaron Gwin took 2 home-soil wins in the following years. This time we find the track tacky, relatively smooth and as short as ever. Times will be tighter than tight. None of the forerunners can afford an off-day, or even so much as a missed pedal-stroke. Yup, it's getting 'ronery' at the top.



Out of Canada and into the the good old U S of A. Crossing the border into the northern Maine wilderness. Taking the slow boat to Windham.
  Out of Canada and into the good old U S of A. Crossing the border into the Maine wilderness, taking the slow boat to Windham, NY.

On the edge of the the Bigelow Preserve in northern Maine heading south through the Carrabassett valley.
  On the edge of the the Bigelow Preserve in northern Maine, heading south through the Carrabassett valley.

Wood turning is big industry in the north Maine woods.
  Big industry in the north Maine woods... that's wood turning.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Welcome to Windham, 'Gem of the Catskills', New York State. A sleepy and rustic kind of town in North East America, best known for its skiing, black bears and as of 4 years ago, its mountain biking.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  2013 left Windham and the US off the World Cup schedule so the penultimate round of the 2014 is a more than welcome return to the original home of mountain biking as we know it.

What is more american than moon shine That ll put lead in your pencil.
  What is more American than moon shine? That'll put lead in your pencil.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Bulls Bikes team manager, Jorn Hessen, tucks into a much-needed all-American beef lunch.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
SRAM s Jon Cancellier making sure suspensions are dialed before the first day of practice.
  Bikes are built, pits are prepped and SRAM's Jon Cancellier makes sure suspensions are dialed before the first day of practice.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  The day began with the typical rider registration and the wait for the lifts to open. Time enough to get fully up to speed on the event they just entered with the World Cup newspaper.

Rachel Atherton gives her bike the old parking lot compression test before practice starts tomorrow.
  Rachel Atherton gives her bike the old parking lot compression test before practice starts tomorrow. The current number 3 will be hoping for that perfect run that can see her make gains on Carpenter and Ragot in the quest for a lighter-weight plate.

Sam Blenkinsop Brook MacDonald and Greg Williamson head up the lift well covered from scattered rain showers to inspect the track on foot. This was one of the shortest track walks ever. Not much in the way of line choice and it s kind of straight downhill.
  Sam Blenkinsop, Brook MacDonald, and Greg Williamson head up the lift well-covered from scattered rain-showers to inspect the track on foot. This was to be one of the shortest track walks without a lot of line choice. It's kind of straight downhill.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Team Giant ride up to meet a 2pm prompt course inspection of the American race track.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Nick Beer and posse meet the light at the end of the first tree tunnel out of the start hut.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Big crew scoping the line off Big D the first big drop that leads into the first steep chute.
  A big crew scoping the line off 'Big D', the first big drop that leads into the first steep chute. Instead of turning before, riders are now headed directly down the mountain and into the abyss below, with some ragged corners to follow that could prove very tough at race speed.

Much of the track has reroutes and has really straightened out. The old line on the left of Pucker Up has been removed and a steeper more loose inside is going to send riders speeding into the next flat corner. If it dries out this section will be wild.
  There are several reroutes and some sections have been straightened out somewhat. The old line on the left of Pucker Up has been removed, and a steeper, more loose inside is going to send riders speeding into the next flat corner. If it dries out, this section will be wild.

An orange root here...
  An orange root here...

An orange root there. This track definitely passed OSHA certification.
  An orange root there. This track definitely passed OSHA certification.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Cam Cole just won a race on this track 2 weeks ago so may have a both figurative and literal inside line on this course...

bigquotesI was coming over from New Zealand so I knew I had to do something the week before Mt.St.Anne, so I went here for the Eastern States Cup just to get out of the jetleg and get my feet wet in the red dirt. Trek was here and George Brannigan flew over like me, but I actually thought many more World Cup riders would be racing. There are a few new bits on the track and it is basically one line, but I know there are a couple of spots I can hopefully pull out on Saturday and use them to my advantage. You got to be on it right from the start and make absolutely no mistakes while being on the edge. Last week you could get away with a mistakes and still be in the top 10. Here you can't mess it up and everything's got to be dialed... the bike and the body as well - Cam Cole - Commencal Riding Addiction

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  The Graveyard is one of the few points where creativity will be a possibility, but only a handful will be able to make something original work at speed.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  We can't quite escape the rain anywhere this season so you gotta be prepared. New Zealand's Louis Hamilton proudly models the latest in organic rain protection technology.

Along with most of the WC features from years gone by Gambler Road Gap remains included and is still pretty enormously long.
  Along with most of the features from years gone by, the Gambler Gap remains included, lengthy as ever...

Dirt dug out of no line land to smooth out the rough.
  Dirt dug out of 'no line land' to smooth out the rough in what used to be a very consequential gap.

Ben Furby is curious just how Phat the lip is.
  Ben Furby is curious just how Phat the lip is.

Cop a feel. Boob stump.
  Cop a feel of the lucky boob stump to find those extra milliseconds.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Like most the the field George Brannigan spent the most time inspecting the rock garden on todays track walk.
  Like most of the field, George Brannigan spent the most time inspecting the rock garden on today's track walk. It's as rough as it is photogenic so should provide some excellent thrills and spills before the weekend is out.

Bernard Kerr and the Pivot crew check out Pop Tart a small gap into a slightly chattery rock section.
  Bernard Kerr and the Pivot crew check out Pop Tart, a small gap into a slightly chattery rock section.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Connor Fearon has been struggling with a fairly concerning (and fairly revolting) infection in his left elbow, but could be one to do well here nonetheless...

bigquotesThis morning I woke up and my arm was definitely much smaller than the last days. I cut it riding up in Bromont before Mt.St.Anne and then it was massively swollen and I had to get an IV-Drip to clear the infection. It was a bummer missing the race in Mt.St.Anne, but there was no way I could have done it and we're are all healed up now. The track is pretty much the same and I like it. It's a bit of a one-line-track the whole way down, but I sort of do better at those tracks because I don't have to think, just hit all the corners and straights in the same spot and that actually works out better for me! You're gonna have to go as hard as you can on the whole track, it's gonna be like Leogang where the times were so close that pretty much everyone in the top 15 could be on the podium - Connor Fearon - Kona Factory Team

World Cup downhill tracks are supposed to be rough and technical but it seems this year the track has been soothed out just a bit more. There may be about 12 cans of orange spray paint on the rocks.
  Despite new-found smoothness in places, there may be about 12 cans of orange spray paint on the rocks. Could be a bit overzealous unless the finals are scheduled after dark for some unknown reason.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  There's a fair helping of flat-out, grassy fields towards the bottom. Those will be entertaining if gets wetter or drier, but not so much if it remains the same.

In his new Walmart tiger shirt and star spangled skivvies Mad Dog Boris might be the most stoked person on earth to be in the USA.
  AMERICA... F*k yeah! In his new Walmart tiger shirt and star spangled skivvies, Mad Dog Boris might be the most stoked person on earth to be in the USA.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Gwin walks the final few hundred meters of gravel down to the line on a track he has dominated twice before. Could home soil be the impetus he needs to repeat the win that kicked off the 2014 season in Pietermaritzburg?

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Doug Hatfield builds and soundproofs the V10 of the Rat. Early signs suggest he may be the only rider to run an extremely long single crown Fox fork out front. Yep, now running the number 2 plate, Bryceland does whatever he likes.

After a year hiatus we at back in the Catskills at Windham New York. This is one of the shortest tracks of the season and some bone dry weather could help make things really interesting.
  After a year hiatus, we at back in the Catskills at Windham, New York. This is one of the shortest tracks of the season and some bone dry weather could help make things really interesting and turn it into the dust bowl we knew back in 2012.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Polish Pete going full invert on Gee's bike, greasing up the headset cups. Maybe he should be Cam Zink's mechanic too. Atherton is the only racer besides Gwin to have won here. It was here that he took down Minnaar to win the overall of 2010.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Team Sweden, Kangas and Harnstrom, fully stoked on NY ready to get the bikes out in the morning.

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Sandwich-eat Wheely Wednesdays with Wyn.

Hey kids a friendly reminder from Brendan Fairclough- if you post photos from MTB news sites on FB and IG don t forget to tag the photographer and the website or else the mtbbatman is coming after you. He s gone after Bren. It s not one of us.
  Hey kids, a friendly reminder from Brendan Fairclough- if you post photos from MTB sites on your FB and IG, don't forget to tag the photographer and the website or else the #mtbbatman is coming after you. He's gone after Bren. (It's not one of us)

Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Arguably the fastest sprinter on the circuit and World Cup leader, Troy Brosnan, missed the last race here in 2012 through injury and came home in 8th back in 2011. A lot has changed since then and he won't be giving away his plate without a fight.

bigquotesIt's gonna be so hard to win here because times will be close; it'll be pretty much one line and everyone is going to be at the same speed. I guess it will be about finding the small lines after the main lines which are a bit smoother and faster and then putting in some extra pedals than everyone else. Whenever you have the number 1 plate on your bike it gives you some extra confidence, so for me to have this plate for the last few rounds is pretty awesome. I will just keep trying to hold on to it and see how we get on Saturday - Troy Brosnan - Specialized Racing DH


Trackwalk - Windham DH World Cup 6
  Sam Hill's already picked out his spot here in Windham and it seems to be the top step once again. Although Hill has never podiumed here, a super short track with only one obvious line is perhaps the place where his special brand of racing creativity can come into play. Mistakes will be punished cruelly, however, and riders will be well aware huge points could be dropped at the slightest wrong move. Things are getting way too serious out in front.



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166 Comments

  • + 108
 I'm sure in a place the size of America with all its mountains and ski areas they could find some where thats a bit more fitting and challenging for world cup rather than a ski piste with a few rocks scattered around, I'm sure the EWS guys could probably cycle up the track turn round and come back down just as fast
  • + 23
 too right! this track looks tame compared to last weeks.
  • + 30
 It's pretty steep, super fast and the rock garden is pretty gnarly. It's not tame, I think the racers are just complaining because there's pretty much no line choice and on such a short track it doesn't make the racing too interesting
  • - 3
 It may be if you live in Belgium Wink Sorry you kinda asked for it.

As for the racers - such tracks live little marin for error. Random things may influence the result more since 0.5s is a waay bigger difference here than in MSA.
  • + 35
 You're suffering from saw-it-in-pictures-itus! Pictures never do a place justice and this one is no exception.
  • + 6
 Look on Connor fearons Instagram if you want to see the rocks
  • + 34
 Colorado needs to put up a worthy WC track… get the MOUNTAIN back in dh mountain biking.
  • + 17
 Whiteface Mtn. NY...
  • + 7
 do not let the photos fool you . the rock garden if fierce and the wide open sections are to be ridden wide open.


cole won in the wet with if i remember a 2:39 im calling the winning run a 2:28 if it stays dry
  • + 9
 I have to admit places like Whiteface would do for a much better WC action, unfortunately most mountains don't have the money to host such a big event... Still the UCI needs to step it up next year !
  • + 4
 Whats the vert from top to bottom?

As much as I enjoyed riding in Colorado, I think the best place for a world cup race (in the USA) is jackson Hole, at the Resort, not the pass. How is it that there hasn't been a world cup race in the Rocky Mountains (Canada & the USA) in who knows how long?
  • + 14
 Its never been about finding a place.It is more about finding an organiser to put on the event for the UCI.Many of the organisers loose money.
  • + 5
 It is not a challenging course to ride slow. I raced it a few weeks ago. But that course has an insane amount of speed stored in it. And that will be the challenging spot. Seeing who can ride the fastest down some steep chutes!
  • + 3
 I have also walked this course. I agree it's not the longest, but that doesn't subtract from its intensity. A very committing track for sure.
  • + 2
 There are alot of bigger and gnarlier places in the North East, however many of them are built on leased park-land, so there is little option to cut new trails without alot of waiting and beurocracy. Also, like someone else mentioned, lack of organizers and promoters.
  • + 6
 Watch the 2012 replay of this race if you think it's tame. It's not long - but you can not make a mistake if you want to win. Full gas the entire way down and have a near perfect run. That to me is not "easy." If it is easy, then they can certainly go faster.
  • + 3
 @Buckeystarbreaker - I can picture Downhill Mike hosting a WC event. It would be memorable !
  • + 2
 If UCI is trying to keep the race on the east coast, Killington may be an interesting WC destination in the coming years as they're apparently trying to up their MTB game hiring gravity logic to bike park it up. They've got the top-bottom vertical for a real track off the K1 Gondola and at 2.5 hours from boston, its about the same distance as NYC to windham and a more tourist friendly destination in general. Ultimately it depends on who's cutting the track, and what kind of line the throw down. I don't have a lot of experience riding my bike at Killington, but think they could put out a pretty gnarly course. That said, I don't see any reason the teams couldn't do it somewhere out west the week before crankworx, pretty much everyone racing descends on whistler at some point in the week. I guess teams wouldn't be too keen on transporting their gear etc. for 3 days from eastern canada to the rockies.
  • + 0
 Did you not watch the racing last time it was here ?

Other than it being short it looked fast , loose and challenging , looking forwards to it as these guys are so fit they can give 100 percent top to bottom.

It could be worse , it could be PMB and out with the dropper posts..
  • - 1
 the rampage site should house one
  • + 1
 @bigburd good point about south africa
  • + 4
 Nahhh all these people from other countries who have never set foot in New England are completely right. It's amazing how they can tell so much from a couple pictures! Man, I wish I was that good at baseless/blind judgement.
  • + 3
 The complaints seem to be not about the steepness, or ruggedness, but how short the track is, and lack of line choices.
  • + 1
 Well I just listened to a few interviews and the riders seem less than stoked with the track , seems as tho it's straighter , smoother and Claudio over jumped every thing on his 1st run !
  • + 4
 Considering how many people got broke off there, I don't see how the internet quarterbacks can say this is an easy track.

Jill Kintner, Manon Carpenter, and Romain Paulhan all broke arms there. Marc Beaumont and Brook MacDonald had HUGE get off's in that rock garden and somehow still managed to carry on in spite of looking like they'd been hit by trucks. That's also where Peaty's Plunge is.... anyone here remember that?

extreme.com/mountainbike/1036809/peatys-plunge-steve-peats-massive-windham-crash

And lastly, and one of my favorites as it shows just how hardcore the girl is, Emmeline Ragot getting bucked after casing the last (50 FOOT) jump, hanging on to the bike as she tumbled, and still having the presence of mind to push the bike across the finish line.

www.sicklines.com/news-images/windham2012/ragotrace.jpg

It should be noted that the women had a tough time at that track. Those jumps clearly weren't designed with the girls in mind. Tracey Hannah blew the seat off on that same last jump and nearly bloodied her nether regions.
  • + 1
 @hatton killington is my home mountain. its a bonkers track, some of the most gnar in the east. all the stops of the poc esc are solid tracks. i rode killington today actually, it reminds me of windham, a little longer perhaps.
  • - 2
 Am I the only one freaked out to see Ratboy on that SINGLE CROWN??
  • + 2
 Somewhere west coast would be sweet, that is gwins "home" after all!
And the scene is getting bigger and bigger here, tons of fans would come and watch. And there is no shortage of gnarly resorts to host it!
  • + 1
 A "hill" over 2000 feet… closer to 3000 feet… that would be funnest for everyone… riders, mechanics, announcers and spectators.
  • + 0
 bring it to mountain creek for a round . traill 99 to road to nowhere to a reopened victory ,then frog pond ,hard left, cross crap chute into lower ripper drop back into the half pipe to finishline
  • + 2
 WHITEFACE MOUNTAIN!! yeeeeeewwww!
  • + 2
 snowshoe wv, 1500 ft vertical, and a super gnarly track. all thats needed is some big jumps
  • + 1
 Couldn't agree more about Snowshoe. Funnel 'em down the ProGrt course (10 Gallon, Pro DH, Lower Hare Ball) and see how they feel about that 'ish!

That said, Snowshoe feels more remote then a lot of other places. Thankfully, teams are OK with the drive, but I doubt enough fans would be to make it worth the money and time of the organizer.
  • + 1
 @driftmonster that line sucks and except victory there's really nothing that difficult or steep on the whole course. Lower road to nowhere = lame and you can't get to the drop (which is the only good part) from 99. You could do asylum instead of road to nowhere, but that rock garden is really not that hard even though it looks kinda nasty. You do have a few good jumps in there now from the GRT course (booter after the rock garden and the hip jump), but at the end of the day Creek is just to short. I do like the idea of a reopened victory for a race course though...Best course in my opinion would be

Bushwack -> Asylum -> Victory -> Frogpond -> 3 or 4 big 50 foot jumps on the Sugar Slope and finish by the airbag.

Still too short. As much as I love creek, there and highland are just out of the question, they lack the vertical to hold the race. You really need one of the bigger mtns in Southern/Central VT to hold the race so you're close to both NYC and Boston to get the crowds. I guess whiteface could pull it off and get people from MTL and a few from NYC, but that place just doesn't have the money to put on a WC event. I would not be surprised to see K-Mart getting it in a few years if they really try and build up their bike park, which apparently they're doing with Gravitylogic. - They should cut the trail from the peak of Killington, have the riders hike up 5 min, ride down 1700-1800 feet through some of the best glades in the east.
  • + 0
 @hatton you have to tie it all together somehow with going up hill. bushwack is the "b" line to the back half of the mountain . and they already used the drop in next to jack that opens out to the fire road ridge a bunch of times aslym is all of 15 feet long as technical as it is and overly used as well

lower road has turns . which may not be challenging but time can either be lost or gained on them. and seeing the pros go from wide open in the fire roads in to the woods and you'll see who will shut it and who will let it go blindly. good courses are about diversity having to go from mach speed to should i brake or not


either way yes its a 2 min mountain but its resort is large enough to host a big event plus hr from nyc . airports etc...
  • + 1
 @Driftmonster - want me to show you how on sunday? It'd be the same bushwack line they used to start Gravity east course, which then went into lower road to nowhere, and everyone hated that section. It is literally the worst thing going on that side of the mtn. The only reason they used it is the gravity east series needed and easy way down adn they didnt wan't the same course they used 2 weeks prior in the GRT. It just super easy flatish turnes with no booter or rock garden there might be a few line choices, but for a world cup its an absolute joke. Asylum has similar turns in the lower section where time could be made up and has a few features that are mandatory on a current WC course. Also, you have a good mid section sprint into the Asylum rock Garden where racers as you say, can go in blindly at mach dick and try and do a sniper gap onto the lower section and bomb it into the booter, or they can check up so they dont eat it in the garden.

That or just USO to Ripper, rocks the whole way down
  • + 1
 @hatton . when did this turn into a pissing match ?


tha internets is serial buzinezzz.
  • + 2
 im trying to win the internet
  • + 27
 Way too keen for this race.
  • + 4
 Yea, freedom race!
  • - 4
flag amirazemi (Aug 7, 2014 at 5:14) (Below Threshold)
 is it going to be livestream does anyone knows ?
  • + 21
 Im still grinning ear to ear from last week, I love back to back world cups, and this race will be a cracker!
  • + 19
 Can someone find these folks some tissues for all of their tears on how "bad" this track is?
  • - 2
 the track is bad
  • + 20
 That looks challenging..... Not, seen tougher looking fire roads !
  • + 2
 So I guess you'll be racing there on Saturday and showing us all what time it is? Yea, didn't think so.
  • + 2
 That makes no sense! Why would I be wanting to show you the time?

I'm no racer but I can tell a good WC track from a bad WC track, this one is without a shaddow of a doubt the worst one on the Callander!
  • + 12
 Oh my god, no!! A course that rewards all out speed and extreme precision and separates the fastest riders by fractions of a second rather than minutes? Grab your tissues, ladies.
  • + 10
 Can't say I'm excited about the track... Huge letdown after St Anne... And most other WC tracks...
  • + 15
 Agreed. But it gives me more time to hang out at Emily Batty's pit.
  • + 5
 I think this is a rough track, but MSA was brutal. Being from the Continental divide, I agree. Wyoming, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado and maybe even AF in NM would be great. Surprised this is what was picked to represent my country. JH Wyoming, Grand Targhee in Idaho, SLC area has tons of options into the Park City area. I was surprised 4 years ago too. California has a ton towards Reno, Truckee area.
  • + 3
 I don't think it's about 'picking' the right place in the US fit a race. These resorts have to submits bids to host these races. They have to want the race and many places either don't want it or can't handle such an event. Throwing out a bunch of places that would make better venues is a futile exercise without knowing who is actually submitting bids, if any other US venues are even doing so at all.
  • + 1
 it also takes a big organization and a whole lot of volunteers
  • + 1
 Mammoth would be perfect. Huge mountain with good blend of high speed and super tech
  • + 2
 I agree with you, there are a lot more places with awesome potential but I'm sorry, you lost all credibility when you said the SLC area has tons of options for World Cup level DH race courses... there are none... maybe there's 1 on Deer Valley but that's being very, very optimistic.
  • + 10
 Can't... f'n... wait...
  • + 7
 The team Giant chairlift could benefit from a little more thinking about weight distribution perhaps? Great shot!
  • + 5
 I love you for all those 'Team America' references!! Watched it again a couple days ago. Oh, and the rest of the article is also great Big Grin
  • + 5
 Even though its windham and there isnt too many pics of the track, I'm a little disspointed
  • + 8
 USA needs a round - but surely Rockies or California not catskills
  • + 6
 The North East has terrain very similar to the UK- not a ton of elevation, but lots of slippery roots and rocks. While I might agree that Windham might not be the premiere spot in the area to hold a World Cup, the North East is arguably just as challenging (if not more so) than Colorado or California. Shit, it's the same mountain range as MSA- there are lots of spots that are worthy.
  • - 13
flag dualsuspensiondave (Aug 7, 2014 at 5:07) (Below Threshold)
 Yeah, most of you guys are clueless. It's one of the gnarlier tracks on the circuit, just not a lot of elevation. East coast if def the gnarliest riding in the U.S. There's a reason that WC DH racers move there for the riding.
  • + 6
 I've been to all three races in the past and I'll be there Sat too. The track, for what it's worth is just too short. One tiny mistake and the clock ticks you away. The East is a great place - Killington in Vermont would be great, but no one else is stepping forward to host. Just glad I get the opportunity to see the fellas I watch on Redbull.
  • + 1
 The WC racers move to North Carolina, not New York- there's a pretty damn big difference. Also, the Catskills are part of the Appalachian Mountain range, not the Adirondacks, so not connected to the same range as MSA.
  • + 1
 Legend- yes, technically you are right about the different mountain ranges, but it's not like you can actually tell the difference riding from the border of the Adirondacks into the Appalachians. The terrain has exactly the same feel, just as passing from the Laurentian Range in Quebec into the Green Mountains of Northern Vermont feels exactly the same.
  • + 3
 Guess you guys never heard of east coast gnar. We had this discussion last week about Windham.
  • + 5
 I doubt you know where the "gnarliest" riding in the US is. Have you ridden every trail in the US? I have a feeling that somewhere in nevada or arizona is probably the most gnar. Even mainstream spots like bootleg canyon have trails that are amost entirely sharp rocks and steep chutes with zero vegitation
  • + 6
 For a little a geology (i'm a geologist) - the Appalachian rang of mountains would include all regional "ranges" of other mountains on the East -up into Canada - This ancient mountain system was once higher than what the Himalayas are today - the power of time and erosion, cut them down to what they are today - made them fun to ride.
  • - 1
 @ legend - I ride NC very often and not once have I ridden a trail more gnarly than in the Catskills. BTW, NC is east coast.... kinda ends in the Atlantic ocean. Haha.

@ leftcoast- ridden out there as well, not near the gnar that you'll find in TN even. PNW has something to compete against the east coast, but not anywhere else west that I have ridden.
  • + 1
 Where did I say anything about North Carolina not being the east coast?
  • + 2
 This track may not be the ultimate fantasy downhill track, but it has produced some good racing in the past. Spagnolo's wild run from a few years back was a classic. The fact they've got to completely max out every single part of the track can produce some good drama Most F1 fans want all the tracks to be like Spa, but you still get a lot of good races at the Hungaroring. Same applies to downhill IMO.
  • + 4
 I think the thing is, that its down to the fitness of the riders on these tracks… If you pedal faster, you get a faster time… No intelligent line choice or technical riding needed, which should be the main reason for a good run in my opinion...
  • + 8
 I dunno, I think there's something about having to hit every feature with complete precision that can be quite interesting. Even if there really is only one line it's not like the bike steers itself, and the small time gaps mean that you get hammered for any mistake at all. I reckon that having to do a perfect run puts quite a lot of pressure on the riders. Obviously it's a different kind of race to the sort you get at Val di Sole or Champery, but it can still be an entertaining race*


* before pinkbike tears me apart I should stress that Val di Sole is my favourite track and I wish there were more tracks like that. Just pointing out that Windham has been entertaining in the past (in my opinion) Smile
  • + 3
 I don't see the need for all this whining. You people sound like a bunch of pussies. God forbid there be a course where fractions of a second count and there isn't 30 2 minutes separating 1st from 3rd.
  • + 2
 its the internets. armchair riders complain about everything
  • + 1
 I wish people would stop having bitch fits about the tracks. At the end of the day its the worlds best riding tracks that, let face it for the majority of us are gnarly as shit. It would be good to see them battle it out on any track
  • + 5
 Gwin FTW! Hoping he pulls out all the stops for home soil race.
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 F, yeah, get this boy back on the top spot!
  • + 1
 welll... sam won't win this one for sure
  • + 4
 "like gorillas chasing a man with a front pocket full of blueberries". That was so graphic!
  • + 2
 Did you happen to stop in the Carrabassett Valley area in Maine at all? The local NEMBA group and the Town have been spending the last 4 summers building a lot of singletrack. Very good riding and worth a visit.
  • + 4
 Let's bring the world cup to California to pay homage to the founding fathers of modern day mountain biking!
  • + 0
 Don't you know that only the east coast is hardcore enough for DH? California is basically flat and I heard there's no rocks in Calofornia either.
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 "heard"
  • + 4
 way too enthusiastic with the orange spray can. Health and safety gone made I tell ya
  • + 4
 we're all just twiddling our thumbs until the Claudio preview aren't we?
  • + 2
 It might not look gnarly now... but it will on Sunday morning when it rains 2 inches of rain Saturday night... #BecauseEastCoastDH
  • + 1
 its a good thing theres no rain in the forecast...and that the race is on saturday
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 I can't wait!
  • + 4
 America, FUCK YEAH! Comin' to save the muthafucking day YEAH!
  • + 0
 With all the new bikes and components that's coming out you think the tracks would be much more rougher than this Frown be great fun to ride but for a World Cup event I don't think so
  • + 1
 I hate seeing the words "smoothed out" in regards to DH tracks. I want the gnarliest s**t possible. You know what track they DON'T smooth out?

Val di Sole...
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 "2013 left Windham and the US off the World Cup schedule so the penultimate round of the 2014 is a more than welcome return to the original home of mountain biking as we know it."

wait, what?
  • + 1
 Mountain biking was invented in the USA, hence " the original home of mountain biking as we know it", and penultimate means second to last; Windham is the second to last UCI race.
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 mountain biking wasnt invented anywhere dude... since bikes exists people ride in the woods n mountains.... maybe your talking about ''racing''
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 It is generally accepted that modern mountain biking, as we know it today, was invented (or popularized) in Marin Country, California in the 70s by pioneers like Joe Breeze, Gary Fisher, Tom Ritchey, etc.
  • + 2
 Yes of course - I read it as stating NY state was the birthplace of mountain biking. Semantics.
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 ''popularized'' thanks
  • + 1
 ya, tell that to the guys I used to build bikes and trail with in the early 70's in southern Ontario. There were alot of us doing the same thing around the same time, they just took it to the next level, as a business, instead of scrounging parts, they decided to make them.
  • + 3
 Great photo of Sam on the top !
  • + 3
 Shoulda done it at plattekill...
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 agreed. the three stall bathroom would make for epic stories
  • + 1
 laz coulda dug a trench...
  • + 2
 sam is look like a real racer,look at him
  • + 1
 What do people think of the Deer Valley NCS track, it used to have Norba DH races.
  • + 1
 I'm surprised the Tetons/Jackson area doesn't host a World Cup. With all the crazy money here and great terrain....pity.
  • + 1
 Whiteface Mountain please. Mike will have everyone over to his place for a sleep over.
  • + 1
 Can gwin win on home soil, or will the thunda from down unda repeat....????????
  • + 2
 what happened to bryceland?
  • + 2
 Syndicate Cosmetic testing I think...
  • + 3
 On Vital they said it's either:
A. Roskopp wasn't stoked about his 2nd place in MSA
B. Sam Dale f*cked him up at the MSA afterparty
C. He didn't get along with US border patrol
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 C : they couldn't figure a single word of what he was telling, so they thought he was bullshitting them.
  • - 1
 He was getting a hair cut hahahahhahaha
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 They should have it in Mammoth instead
  • + 1
 I agee the silt gets so gnar there and the amount of terrain/ vertical they could put a track down would be insane. but it would have to be late season most years because of snow unlike the last few.
  • + 2
 Sam subconsciously claiming the top step. Go for it Sam!!
  • + 1
 A cara da America !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 2
 When will Claudio ue up?
  • + 1
 exactly, this means nothing to me till I see and hear claudios commentary Smile
  • + 1
 I RACED THIS COURSE A FEW WEEKS AGO! IT WAS AMAZING!
  • + 1
 Damn that was a lot of unnecessary orange paint
  • + 1
 @hamncheez don't quite get the humour in it... oh well
  • + 1
 Go to Mountain Creek for '16!
  • + 1
 I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a tie
  • + 1
 I really really sincerely hope Neethling pulls a win out the bag here.
  • + 1
 that gambler gap looks HUGE!
  • + 2
 Wanna see gwin win !!!
  • + 1
 Yeah buddy, U.S.A on home turf...................GWINDHAM!!
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 1 word....................GWINDHAM!!!!!!!! GWINDHAM!!!!!!!!!!!
  • + 1
 those are two words.
  • + 1
 WHERE IS CLAUDIO?!?!?!?!?
  • + 1
 Mtblegend92 you couldn't be more inaccurate..
  • + 1
 finals are tomorrow august 9th streaming on red bull tv correct?
  • + 1
 Saturday**
  • + 0
 @ Buckeystarbreaker - Yes, Whiteface would be an amazing venue for a WC!
  • + 1
 MCBP Should host this
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