Trailforks Now on Garmin Wearables

Dec 7, 2020
by Todd Neumarker  
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Trailforks App enables route browsing on the Garmin Watch

The Trailforks development team is pleased to announce Trailforks App support for many of the Garmin wearables. Last year Trailforks introduced support for multiple activity types, like hiking, trail running, moto and winter activities. With all these new activity types, we felt it was important to add support on this expanded line of devices. Owners of the following Garmin wearables can now install Trailforks through the Connect IQ Store:

• Forerunner® 245, 645, 745, 935, 945
• fēnix® 5, 6 and Chronos
• quatix® 5 and 6
• tactix®

The Trailforks wearable interface provides all the same features previously only available on Edge Cycling Computers. Seamless integration between the Trailforks Website, Trailforks App and Garmin devices, enabling users to research the perfect day out on the trails.

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Website - Route Finder
Trailforks provides multiple ways to view, find, and select trail routes. I have a favorite trail run loop I like to do just a few blocks up the road, which I'll use to illustrate the new features. Trailforks provides a "Route Finder" feature where you can see all the most recent activities in an area and popular routes. My favorite lunch run is called "Against the Grain". By zooming into the trail system in the "Route Finder" I quickly see it popup on the list and select it. From the main route landing page, I can click the button "Save / Wishlist". That's it, the route is saved to your wishlist.

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Selecting a route (or someone elses ride) from the Route Finder

Trailforks App - Discover
In the Trailforks App finding great routes is easy when using the "Discover" menu item or button. The best way to do this is to first navigate on the main map to the location you want to look for routes. Select the "Discover" button to get an instant list of suggestions and links to specific regions nearby.

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Select Discover
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Select a suggested Route or Specific Area

From here you have many ways to research and find that perfect route. For this example, I am going to navigate to a local trail system "Corner Canyon", and select it from a list based upon the length of the run I want to do.

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Select a route
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Select a suggested Route or Specific Area

To display more Route options, select the Title or Route Metrics above or below the elevation graph. You can also use your finger to slide the graph up. One you do this, you will see more Route options

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Click "Save To"
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Click "Add to Wishlist"

Note: If you are going to start a ride that has no cell service, it is best to load it onto your watch before getting out of cell service range. Once on the watch, the route and all trails will be available in the back country.

In this example, I am starting from a trailhead near town. Once at the trailhead, first select "Trailforks" as the activity (Shown in the picture above). You will be given the opportunity to select the actual activity once the route is completely loaded.

The Trailforks Connect IQ App starts up and provides a list of various route finding options. Before I started on my trail run, I added my morning run to my "Wishlist", so I select "My Routes". If you have not put a route on your wishlist, you can use the other menu options to search for local routes:

Available Menus
My Routes- All routes on wishlist
Browse Top Routes - Trailforks Gold, IMBA Epics, Featured Nearby, Upcoming Races
Nearby Routes - Uses the Garmin GPS to detect location and list routes nearby
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Select Route
After pressing "My Routes", you will see a list of all of the routes you saved to your wishlist. I just added this new route to my wishlist, so it pops up right at the top of the list.

Select the route you want, and the watch will load a preview of the route.

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Route Preview
Once the route preview is loaded, a quick view of the route will be provided:
• Route Name
• Distance
• Elevation
• Route path preview (Not supported on all wearables) - This is the one feature that is not fully supported on all watches. Some of the higher end wearables have more memory and processing capability.

Click the Garmin "Select" button to initiate the route and elevation data download
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Select the Activity
Once the download is complete, and the wearable has loaded the route successfully, the activity screen will be presented again. At this point the Garmin software takes over and you can start your desired activity.
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Start Routing
Now the Garmin will try to determine your location. This route starts in the parking lot, so the Garmin detected that I was already partway on the course. At this point, my activity recording is started, and the Garmin is navigating me along the course.

Elevation (Below)
Trailforks provides elevation for each point along the route as part of the route upload. This feature enables you to preview the elevation and see your progress clearly displayed. Here you can see I have started up the climb and I can view altitude gain stats, as well as see a full graph of the entire route with min/max elevation.

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Route Guidance
This is one of my favorite features that the Garmin software provides. As I run, the software tracks you along the route and lets you know if you deviate off course. You don't have to be looking at the watch, as the device will make a little buzz sound and the watch will vibrate.

This is a Garmin feature, but it works best with accurate route data. Creating a course on Trailforks using the route creation interface enables you to use trail segments that have been corrected using our background heatmaps. Trailforks routes combined with Garmin location detection will provide the best route guidance experience.

Note: Trailforks trails are often re-aligned using ridelog averages for optimum accuracy. When you use a single ridelog that is a smartphone recording, or download routes from websites that use essentially the same thing, this feature doesn't work that well. A single recording will indicate that you are off course even when you are not.
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Trailforks Basemap
We are now back on course, and the Garmin routing calculates the remaining difference. You can see from the map view, that we are back on course and following the correct trail.

Note: This device is the Forerunner 945. Not all supported watches provide maps and color.

Pro Tip: Traiforks App support on Garmin Wearables does not require a Pro Membership. However, the map displayed is the Garmin Basemap, which is free to download for Pro Subscribers.
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One you complete the route, the watch buzzes


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166 Comments
  • 46 0
 @todd - is compatibility with the Garmin Vivoactive watches planned in the future?
  • 8 1
 I am with him also!!!
  • 3 0
 Yes! I need this for my watch
  • 7 1
 Or other Forerunner and Instinct models
  • 4 0
 @Shred-BC: Us first!!!! lol
  • 10 1
 @Shred-BC: Instinct, yes!
  • 4 0
 @husstler: I said us first!! No upgrade for you! One year!!
  • 6 0
 I wanted to add support for Vivoactive and Venue watches. But our app uses a system function to get a list of "courses" on the watch. These devices don't support this funtion. So we'll have to modify our app to possibly work on these watches.

As far as other watches, not possible. The watch needs to support Garmin Connect IQ apps and at a minimum SDK version of 2.4
  • 10 0
 Yes please! Vivoactive 4 wearer here. (and Trailforks Pro subscriber)
  • 3 0
 @canadaka: I love you long time if you do...
  • 4 1
 I looked into it, unfortunately we cannot support Vivoactive or Venue watches. They do not work with download FIT or GPX files, they do not have a launch intent for them. I tried!
  • 4 0
 This party sucks!!! Aw well. Thanks for trying tho!
  • 20 0
 @whattheheel: I can confirm it does not work on Target Brand kids Frozen themed watches like yours.
  • 10 0
 Hey bitch!! My Mom got that for me for Xmas 8 years ago! It's still good!!
  • 4 0
 @whattheheel: Give your kid their watch back would ya!
  • 2 0
 @husstler: Same! Can you load maps into the instinct though? I haven't used the map features that much.
  • 2 0
 can't stress this enough!
alltough really lame of garmin, not including navigation GPX transfer on the vivoactives. i'd even pay for a "navigation upgrade"...
  • 5 1
 @sack-zement: I'm not sure what to say to everyone disappointed about lack of support on the Vivo watches... I have sympathy for you, but the features you are asking for are specifically how Garmin justifies the existence of the higher end watches. The Vivo series are like the watch version of the Edge 100 series. They are great for what they do, but by definition don't have all the bells and whistles.
  • 1 0
 @markholloway: Aw heel to the naw! Mine now!!!
  • 1 0
 @Shep77: totally get it and nothing wrong. just a little lame!
got myself the vivo because i don't want to wear a tank on my wrist that screams "lookt at mee, i'm soo outdooorzzz!!11"
that's why i'd even pay up for upgrading the vivo. untilly now i didn't miss the lack of navigation.
thank you trailforks! Razz
  • 2 0
 @Shep77: You are wrong : A Vivoactive 4 isn't a low end watch at 480$ CAN compared to a Forerunner 245 that is both cheaper and older technology.
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 @canadaka: The instinct has navigation, it just needs a .GPX file. Is it possible to export a route from trail forks to the phone storage as a .GPX?

And is it possible to create a custom route by choosing a start point, and which trails to ride? Maybe something like google maps, where the app creates the route from A to B, but then the user can drag the route trough the points you want to ride.
  • 14 0
 apple watch next!!
  • 1 0
 I am assuming it'd be the cellular Apple Watch that would support this, right? I don't think the non-cell versions support altimeter and route-finding.
  • 4 0
 @sngltrkmnd: apple watches (even the non mobile data ones) have access to GPS data (lat long alt bearing) and can download maps.
  • 2 0
 @sngltrkmnd: As long as you have your phone with nearby rout tracking is available on non cellular watches.
  • 14 0
 Apple Watch Please
  • 2 0
 Yes, please!
  • 11 1
 about time fuck yeah.
  • 5 0
 In case anyone's wondering how the heck you authorize/connect the app to your trailforks account.. on iOS you MUST enable notifications for the Garmin Connect app... Then, when you open "My routes" on the watch, a notification pops on your phone with a link to log in.
Not necessarily friendly for folks (like me) who obsessively disable all apps notifications..
  • 6 0
 We cannot control this process, this is Garmin. It's not super user friendly for sure. I think if you have the Garmin Connect app open on your phone screen when you try to connect on your watch, you may not need notifications enabled.
  • 8 6
 iOS lol
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 @canadaka: Yeah.. I get it that you don't control those bits. I tried having the Garmin app open but that still didn't do anything (no banners popped up). I guess maybe just dropping a line on the app description or anywhere else that the link to connect the accounts will pop up in a notification..
But hey, I get it.. I made life hard for myself disabling those.. Big Grin
  • 1 0
 It's only a one time thing.
  • 7 0
 Please just bring it to the apple watch and make routing to trailheads possible in Germany... =)
  • 6 0
 Hey my fenix just became more than a $500 HRM! I’m glad this came out before I ditched the watch for a full bike computer.
  • 3 0
 You would regret it anyway. My Fenix 6 is way more stable than my Wahoo Elemnt and my brothers Garmin Edge 830. Ascent/descent is often within a few meters (with the same start/stop position), whereas the two others can vary hundreds of meters.
  • 7 0
 @Nygaard: is correct. It is just so convenient to use my Forerunner for everything. The GPS accuracy of the watch is just as good, and maybe even a bit better than my Edge 830 when I compare against ride log averages. Like most mountain bikers, I do other activities, and I love having one computer for it all that I don't have to remember to bring with me
  • 2 0
 @todd: Exactly. The only reason I have the Elemnt is that I bought it before getting the Fenix.
  • 2 0
 I don't know which model you have, but the 6 Pro has all kinds of mapping stuff in it already. Pretty damn capable device. I was using it for everything and used my beat up 510+ in mirror mode. I just got an 830 because I was getting tired of charging my Fenix every other day.
  • 1 0
 @todd: Agreed, love my Fenix. Ditched bike computer a while ago because of it. Thank you SO MUCH for this new Garmin app. Great addition.
  • 4 1
 Can we get some level of Apple Watch support? I just want to be able to plan a ride on the phone app then have my watch buzz a notification before each upcoming intersection to keep me on my route...
  • 5 1
 Finally! I’ve been trying to transition away from strava, this is going to be pretty helpful.
  • 3 1
 It doesn't record rides though
  • 2 1
 @Jcolis1904: you can run Trailforks on your watch/Edge while an activity is being recorded.
  • 6 1
 Please strike a deal with Wahoo now that we’re all paying customers!
  • 2 0
 Not all of us
  • 1 0
 This would be very exciting if I didn't have the Fenix 3 HR watch! Would love to see that watch be supported as well if possible as I don't see this watch needing to be replaced anytime soon - my Forerunner 305 still works (at least the last time I turned it on it did).
  • 3 0
 We cannot support the older Fenix 3 HR, our app requires a minimum SDK version of 2.4 and that watch doesn't have that.
  • 1 1
 Thank Garmin for limiting available memory on older watches. This means these watches don't get the new Connect IQ version that new apps require.
  • 2 0
 @Mac1987: Even on the newest Fenix 6, you only get 128kB of memory an app can use! Some watch models like the "S" Fenix 6S, have 1275kB of memory for apps.
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 @canadaka: thanks for the reply.
  • 2 0
 F3 is nearly 5 years old tech...
  • 1 0
 @canadaka: do you mean the Pro versions? The 'S' is the smaller version of the regular Fenix and has the same internal hardware and software, besides a smaller screen and battery.
  • 1 0
 @JSTootell: thanks for helpful bit of info
  • 8 7
 Trailforks on Garmins sucks - BEWARE - I bought a new edge 830 to use trailforks on a 6000 mile road trip, and to my surprise, Trailforks on Garmins sucks. Whenever I looked for nearby trails, the only ones that came up were like international routes that were super famous. Like the Louis and Clark trail in Sun Valley, ID. None of the other 100 interesting trails were available to participate in.

Anyone else have this problem? No real bike trails show up in the new Gamins?
  • 6 0
 I believe you first have to look them up on your phone or on the website and bookmark them. Then, when you connect your phone to your watch or bike computer, you can download those bookmarked trails.
  • 7 0
 It works a lot better if you download, install and activate the Trailforks maps for your area on your device. Download the maps here:

www.trailforks.com/tools/garminmaps
  • 1 0
 I have all the trails, but my first ride had only half the route recorded on TrailForks, while the whole route was recorded on Garmin and Strava. (I had both tracking). Weird.
  • 1 0
 @outlaw502: Ok thanks for sharing this. is this really legit? all the trails that show up on TF on my phone will now show up on the edge? I returned it, so I would have to rebuy it and want to know if it's really legit.
  • 2 0
 @yohyatt: I have a fenix 5X so it might be a little different but once I installed the "Trailforks" maps I can search for "NEARBY ROUTES" and see many routes (not "trails") near me. But I can see ALL of the trails near me when I go to the mapping screen, the same as I see with the app or website. Even the small trails in a local conservation area show up which is what I want. I don't use "routes" when I ride but I can now use the map to navigate the trail systems.

Before I installed the Trailforks maps I saw the same thing you did. Only major trails in the USA and I am in Canada.
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 @outlaw502: Can you look at the trail maps on the mapping screen without having planned a route first? Most of my rides are choosing trails as I go along, rather than a pre-designed route. Would love to be able to see the trail map right on the watch face.
  • 2 0
 @fraserw: Like I said I have a fenix 5X (Garmin mapping watch) so I can only say how it works on my device but I would assume other Garmin devices are the same. But to answer your question YES I can open the "MAP" app on my watch and see a map with all of the Trailforks trails and zoom or pan around the map. Basically just like what you see with the android app or the website. It is a little difficult to pan and zoom on the watch to find trails not at my location because the screen is small but it is possible. I can move to any area and when I zoom in the trails are there. It works the best when riding with GPS active because the map follows my location and shows exactly where I am on the trail. that is normally how I use it, to navigate trail systems. To do this I had to download, install and activate the Trailforks maps. I have multiple maps (layers) on my watch and I can turn them on or off as I need (TOPO maps, street routable maps, Trailforks maps...) I can have more than one map set active at a time but then it gets crazy slow to update the screen as you move so I find having only one "active" map at a time, along with the global base map is best. It works great for me!
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 @outlaw502: Thanks for the fantastic response. I'm sold. Guess I gotta get me a new Garmin
  • 2 0
 @fraserw: Glad I could help. Just remember that if you do use a watch the screen is pretty tiny so the experience is not quite like a phone but it does work for me most of the time. I usually carry my phone when I ride too and sometimes I do grab it and use the app to see what is happening.
  • 5 0
 Corner Canyon is pronounced Carpet Canyon where no rock survives.
  • 2 0
 Ha ha, this was actually a trail run. But I did ride Maple Hollow DH on Saturday and found a few rocks there.
  • 1 0
 @todd: I think Jacobs has a few left too.
  • 1 0
 lol. so true. rocks would cause too much controversy
  • 1 0
 Rode the rush loop twice this summer, each time when visiting for other reasons. I rode it in June/July, and in sept. I thought the trail system was pretty fun (although I didn’t ride everything).

The ride early in the season was pretty smooth. But the ride in sept was actually kind of bombed out in places (especially the sandy turns on limelight, those took out my noobie brother in law Razz ).

Sounds like I need to try jacobs ladder next time I’m there.
  • 1 0
 No shortage of rocks on zooropa.
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 @ocnlogan: Limelight is hardly rideable past May, in my opinion. That soil turns into complete sand without constant moisture. Jacobs is definitely the techiest thing up there, and the jump lines at South Maple Hollow are pretty fun too. All of it is good in my opinion, but if you only bring the enduro bike you'll feel like everything is too mellow.
  • 1 0
 Too bad my Fenix 5 watch crapped out after 18 months, which is out of warranty. A little questionable for a watch over $500 in my opinion. For $150 Garmin would send me a refurbished model with an even shorter warranty period...I think 30-90 days. No thanks. Bummer...seems like a cool feature.
  • 5 0
 Any plans to bring it to the Apple Watch?
  • 4 0
 Glad to see the subscription is turning out some product development.

Not let's get that Apple Watch app going Wink
  • 1 0
 To those in the know, which watch works best for trailforks?
I'm not so much into the smart watch thing, but I'd like to have a GPS-device on my wrist with hrm and a clock.
Just that.
I'm aware that the fenix 6 is top of the notch.
But it's also bulky and I don't have the biggest hands.
  • 1 0
 I have a Fenix 5 Sapphire and love it.
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 @canadaka: thx for the reply, is the fenix 5 really slimmer than the 6?
If not, has the 6 anything that you would like to have on the 5?
  • 2 0
 @canadaka: Can one see the trail maps on the watch without having to pre-plan a route? I often choose my routes as I go, without planning a route before I start my ride, and it would be awesome to just see what trails are nearby as I go.
  • 1 0
 Had a Garmin 501 Forerunner, and it was great, but then the strap broke. And it was irreplaceable. Used it for some runs, and it tracked absolutely everything at the time. I uploaded it to the computer, and all it could say was, "TURBO 9000" which wasn't surprising.
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 @canadaka this seems as best a place as any to ask. I have an edge 530 and most of the time TF works great on it. But it doesn't want to update as new trails are added? Even if I keep the garmin up to date. How can I make it update to add the newest trails? Cheers
  • 1 0
 We only send Garmin a data dump of all the trails 2 or 3 times a year. So the integrated Garmin maps are only updated then.
  • 1 0
 As a forerunner owner I’d like to know from edge owners what it adds apart from a big screen

Seems a no brained to get the watch, HR, works for all activities, counts burned calories and a million other metrics (admittedly some more useful than others)
  • 2 0
 I own both a Forerunner 945 and Edge 830. I generally use my 945 for everything. But if I am riding in a very complex trail system, the 830 has the benefit of being able to see the screen while still moving on the bike. I just can't see the tiny watch map bobbing around with one hand on the bar.

The other thing that the 830 does is come preinstalled with Trailforks, and when it detects you are on a trail, it changes that trail to a fat line and shows the trail name in the titlebar. The touchscreen makes panning and zooming faster. Again this is really only helpful when I am riding in a complex trail system like big ski resorts with lots of access roads, and I don't want to miss the turnoff to the singletrack. The touchscreen is faster to zoom/pan as well.
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 @todd: thx for that reply. It's quite helpful for my decision what watch (or BC) I should buy. The one thing I would like to be able to do with it, is not miss Trail junctions. Especially in remote areas this is really a pain in the ass. For one I don't want to stop every time and get out the cellphone, and if I don't and go wrong I have to go back.
I'm not so worried in crowded areas like bike parks or skiareas with lots of trails. Because I can just go up again. So your point above is not exactly my concern.
Couldn't, I just wrap the watch around the handlebar? Or is the display to small to be useful then?
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 @canadaka

Where can I find out what the navigation screen would look like on a forerunner 245, or 745?

I'm stoked to see trailforks supported on these watches, but would like to avoid shelling out the big bucks for a forerunner 945. Is the navigation display similar on the 245? Or the 745? You said the watch has to have "Route path preview" to show the mini map. I can't find anything indicating whether the 245/745 supports this.

Could you help me out please?
  • 3 0
 Awesome, I'll have to add this to my fenix since I use my Edge less and less these days.
  • 4 1
 Does garmin make any compatible models that arent the size of hockey pucks?
  • 1 1
 Haha I’m with you
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 So, the watch in the examples is the forerunner 945, and I admittedly have very small wrists. I tried on a Fenix 6S which is 42mm width and really fit well. Garmin also pulled in the watch band linkage points to give an even smaller vertical size which makes it feel just right for me. The 945 is just so lightweight, I forget its there, and with the Trailforks basemap, I like to have the biggest screen I can handle with the watch wearing me.
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 @todd: Thanks I'll check it out. Smaller wrists here too- anything over 43mm just looks obscene
  • 4 0
 Corner Canyon - Does your programmer live in SLC? Sick trails for sure.
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 I'm a programmer, but not for this feature, that credit goes to someone else. I've been wanting this feature for a long time, and was helping test it out. And, yes, I live in Utah.
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 @todd: Sweet. This is definitely a cool new feature!
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 Love that Corner Canyon is featured on this. Wood Hollow is great, but Jacob's Ladder would have been better Wink
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 This is great functionality if you follow routes. Will it be possible to view trails on the map around your location like on the phone app?
  • 4 0
 Some watches can load custom basemaps, you can download the Trailforks custom Garmin basemap for that.
www.trailforks.com/tools/garminmaps

Otherwise, the functionality of Garmin Connect IQ apps is pretty limited!
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 @canadaka: Cool, I didn't know those were compatible with watches, I'm new to wearables. Will download and give it a go on my Fenix 5s. Thanks.
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 @canadaka: Which watches are capable of loading these basemaps? That's exactly the feature I have been waiting for!
  • 1 0
 Hey folks, alot of helpful info on here. I'm in the market for a watch and am wondering if you'd reco the fenix 6 over the 5 for primarily MTB and gravel riding? This trailforks capability looks kickass. TIA
  • 2 0
 Cool! All we need now would be something to project this to our eyewear so we don't have to look at our watches.
  • 3 0
 Its cool to know where these pictures were taken! beaUTAHful!
  • 3 0
 Yeah, banner weather last week in Corner Canyon
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 @todd: Indeed. Excellent hard pack dirt.
  • 3 0
 Will this be on Garmin Instincts as well?
  • 1 0
 sorry no. Garmin Instinct watches don't support Connect IQ apps.
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 @canadaka: Alright, thank you
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 Does the Garmin Descent (Mk1 or Mk2) support this? My understanding is that watch is essentially just a souped-up Fenix so I would imagine so, but it would be good to know...
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 I just tested on MK1, MK2, D2 & Marq watches, they can all be supported. Will update the CIQ app today.
  • 2 0
 My phone GPS is always more accurate than whatever garmin I try. No thanks.
  • 1 0
 You cant use TF app on watch whilst recording a ride? Start ride, get to a location cant then open TF app to search. It has to be done before pressing record
  • 1 0
 They should make a video review putting it to test in dense forest trails to demonstrate how accurate and reliable it will be.
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 Is it possible to use it simply as a map, to know where you are in the trail network, without having selected a pre$planned route?
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 Only on the watches with a basemap like the Fenix 5X and Fenix 6X
www.trailforks.com/garmin
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 @canadaka Just a quick heads up, the Instinct 2 series does support Connect IQ apps now. Will the app be updated to allow installation on Instinct 2 watches?
  • 3 0
 Not on the Venu Frown
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 Man, was excited for like 0.3 seconds. No Apple Watch???
  • 3 0
 What about Suunto, brah?
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 Or just Wear OS in general!
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 @samnation: Wear OS only works on the Suunto 7. The other watches run on an OS that's from Suunto.

@canadaka: Suunto is shifting the computer/web platform (Movescount) to a cellphone based platform (Suunto App). There is the option to link to external services. Would it be doable to hook up with them and see if there is a possibility to link their service to yours? I think the app is fairly new and under strong development, but it seems they're willing improve usability. Of course I do realize that there is the option to create/download routes from Trailforks and import them into the Suunto App from there. But if there is a direct link it would be extra smooth!
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 @vinay: what you are proposing would also work for the Suunto 7 users, as I use the Suunto mobile app for all of the activity tracking usually (outside of step counts and such, which Wear OS tracks). As many mentioned I just want to move away from Strava. Right now if I want a ride to post on trailforks I have to go from Suunto to Strava to trailforks which is literally the only reason but have Strava.
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 @samnation: That'd be the other question I'd like to ask someday. I already got Trailforks (paid) and finally also got a compatible device (Android cellphone) but it is still unclear what's the point of logging rides on Trailforks. It already logs to the Suunto App, I can link it to quantified-self.io for some more analysis on a computer screen instead of a cellphone (now that they're moving away from Movescount) but I haven't yet figured out what's the point of logging rides on Trailforks. Is it explained somewhere?
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 @vinay: In a nutshell Trailforks will do everything that the Suunto App does already, but would provide better support and integration for reporting, route planning, and a host of other features outside the scope of traditional fitness tracker apps.

As an example I'll use myself, for the last 15 or so years I have been participating in and leading local group rides (sometimes multiple in a week). Over that time I have amassed substantial knowledge about routes and route information (there's a big climb here or a sneaky optional black diamond descent on this otherwise blue trail) it would be nice for me to not have to store all of that information in my head or across multiple devices. It would also be nice for me to be able to tell riders who are new to a ride "download Trailforks, and I'll post the route in advance of the ride, all you need is a compatible device". Right now if I do that in order to follow my own route should a forget what I planned in the route I'll need to pull my phone out to check the route on Trailforks and make sure I am not confused.

Now, I have moved to a new area, I don't know the trails, and it will take years to learn them all. Moreover, I am surrounded by even more new areas that I don't know. I would love to be able to stop and just have to look at my watch to find that next turn or trail in a Trailforks route instead I have to pull my phone out and open up Trailforks all while my watch is still tracking the same ride just in a different app.

Lastly, Strava has thus far been a nice "Band-Aid" solution but I don't see it remaining that way forever. It's only a matter of time before I will have to start paying for the Strava account a barely use and considering I already pay for Trailforks (and in a round about way my watch app), it would be nice to have them play together.

I just like my phone to stay stowed in my pack, it cost me a lot of money and I'd rather not expose it to the elements if I can avoid it.
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 @samnation: Thank you for your explanation. Yeah I absolutely get that Trailforks is a much better tool for creating and navigating routes. I was mostly wondering why a rider would log a ride on Trailforks if you already have it logged in Suunto App, Polar Flow or whatever comes bundled with your device. I understand that it might be useful for trail associations to get an impression of when and how often their trails are being used. But even then they only get to know this from those who actually use Trailforks (or another application that sends them stats). I understand some people use the phone only so maybe it is just for them. But considering what my watches look like after some years of use, I doubt a phone would survive. I only recently got my first smartphone (Nokia 1.3, Android, not logged into Google) but after using a Polar 810 since 2004 or so (no GPS device), I moved to Suunto in 2013 (Ambit 2S). I'm now using an Ambit 3 Peak and a recent Suunto 5 now. The Suunto 7 is a very different device and I get that it is probably perfect for you, but I don't need that much info on my rides. A simple trail, some POI or a simple arrow pointing me in the right direction is sufficient for my uses. The only thing where some Trailforks-Suunto integration would be nice for me would be if I could just create or choose a route in Trailforks and then immediately choose there to synchronize it with the watch. As it is now, there is just a little more juggling with .gpx files involved. Not a big deal by any means. Just as I mentioned, it would just be a smoother experience. But yeah for you it is your business and I absolutely get that it is important for you.
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 So now I need a watch and a phone?

I’ll stick with a phone, much more versatile and better graphics.
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 Do I still need to bring a cell phone when using the Garmin? (As you can tell I am old but new to this stuff)
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 You need your phone for the watch to have access to the internet via bluetooth. So loading a route via the Trailforks app you will need your phone. But once the route is downloaded via the app on the watch, you can go on a ride without your phone or internet, it's stored in the watch in it's "Courses" folder.
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 Looks like no love for the 45? Although, not sure if it would support the mapping?
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 Thanks for getting this out! Installed last night on my Fenix 5 Plus. No issues.
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 Helll to the yeaaayy. Was waiting for this moment so I can justify a Fenix 6 $1k watch !!
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 It has been a while since the Fenix 7 and Forerunner 955 have been released, are they planned to get this as well?
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 That's sweet!
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 Sick, this was the main reason I passed on these
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 I’ll get one when they make it bigger.
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 xmas comes early, thanks senditsanta!
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 Christmas just came a bit early. Thank you Trailforks crew.
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 Confirmed to work as intended on my Forerunner 935
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 Sweet! I just happen to have bought one this am, perfect timing.
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 what?! no instinct?
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 Sorry no. Garmin Instinct watches don't support Connect IQ apps.
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 Will record my ride be added in the future?
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 Oh damn if it doesn't record it's pointless because then I still have to take out my phone. I'm gonna wait three years until they have all this ironed out. These watches will be so good soon
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 Nice. Anyone know the cheapest garmin watch that would work with this?
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 Who wears a watch!?
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 I’m not seeing it in the ConnectIQ app.

What am I doing wrong??
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 In the Garmin Connect app you can search for "Trailforks" in the "Activities and Applications", there should be a button at the bottom for "Get More Applications". You can search for it there.
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 Any future support for Samsung Galaxy watch?
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 Integrate with Wahoo too, PLEASE!
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 So, can you run Strava and still access this?
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 Which watch is shown in the photos?
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 Forerunner 945 (on my tiny wrist, ha ha)
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 now we just need it on Samsung and Apple watches
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 Would also love if there were a Wear OS app! Please consider :-)
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 will the trailforks app be available on the garmin venu 2?
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 Will this work with Forerunner 55?
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 hell yeah!
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 amazing
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 This is very exciting!
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 How 'bout Casio F 91-W?
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 What about the 235 ?
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 Sorry too old.
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 Forerunner 735XT?
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 I need a version for a vivoactive 3
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 Sorry not possible, Garmin doesn't allow it on the Vivoactive series.
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