Transition Releases New Alloy Patrol with Mixed Wheels & 160mm Travel

Jun 1, 2021
by Mike Kazimer  

An aluminum Patrol has returned to Transition's lineup, and this time it's sporting a mixed-wheel configuration and slacker geometry than ever before. There's still 160mm of travel, or you can run a longer stroke shock to bump that up to 170mm.

While the overall look falls in line with what we've come to expect from Transition, it's the geometry numbers that are worth a closer examination. Let's start with the head angle – it now measures 63.5-degrees in the high setting. That's right, you can slacken things by an additional half degree via the flip chip at the lower shock mount.
Transition Patrol Details

• Wheel size: 29" front / 27.5" rear
• Travel: 160 (r) / 160mm (f)
Frame material: 6061 aluminum
• 63.5 or 63-degree head angle
• 12 x 148mm rear spacing
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL
• Color: blueberry, raw
• Price: $3,699 - $5,399; $2,299 frame only
transitionbikes.com

Want to do some geometry tinkering on your own? The Patrol has a straight 1.5” headtube, which makes it easier to install a reach or angle adjusting headset, or even a dual crown fork for riders that want to build up a something a little different from the norm.


The reach numbers haven't changed all the much from the previous carbon Patrol, but the seat tube angles have gotten steeper, and there are now different chainstay lengths for different sizes. In the low setting, the small and medium frames have 436mm chainstays, and the large and XL frames have 442mm chainstays. The bottom bracket is on the lower side of the spectrum, which is why 165mm cranks are spec'd on all models.


Moving on to the suspension, it's still the familiar Horst Link layout, with 24% progression that should allow it to work well with air or coil shocks. Transition recommends running between 27-33% sag, a fairly wide range that allows riders to choose whether they want a firmer, more supportive feel, or one that's more active and plush.

As for the details of the frame itself, it has pretty much everything you'd hope to find on a modern mountain bike. There's a threaded bottom bracket, room for a water bottle inside the front triangle, internal routing for the dropper and derailleur, and external for the rear brake. There's also a SRAM Universal Derailleur Hanger, two bolts for mountain an accessory holder under the top tube, and molded chainstay, seatstay, and downtube protection.


The frame and shock only are priced at $2,299 USD. Complete bikes start at $3,699 for the Deore model, followed by the GX version for $4,799, and the XT complete at $5,399. All models have a OneUp dropper post, and a OneUp bashguard.

I was able to get in a few rides on the Patrol earlier this year, and on another soon-to-be-announced model from Transition - stay tuned for a video and those ride impressions later this week.


295 Comments

  • 212 1
 Nobody is ever happy,the bike is aweasome
  • 11 2
 yeah, this bike is hot
  • 19 1
 Love the idea of mixed wheel sizes on bikes in the category, and I like that they steepened the ST without feeling the need to stretch the crap out of the reach- should be a very comfy ride. Price for frame is nice, too.
  • 5 0
 That bike was sick already. Even better now.
  • 3 0
 @ranke: I would have one. It since the TR250 has Tranny tickled my pickle.
  • 1 0
 Damnit that patrol is so awesome it just make me wanna cry
  • 3 0
 @jaame: that sounds dangerous...
  • 3 7
flag tech-floguy (Jun 1, 2021 at 15:53) (Below Threshold)
 I loved the patrol but it is a freeride bike not a race bike. A 29er version of the patrol is coming out soon but it won’t be the same.
  • 1 5
flag AntN (Jun 1, 2021 at 18:10) (Below Threshold)
 If only the shock wasn't mounted vertically... Frown
  • 1 0
 @jaame: What are they going to call it...Mullet Country....
  • 2 0
 @tech-floguy: agreed, no 27.5 front and back seems a bit odd to me for the intentions of this bike.

Tried a few mullets and haven’t enjoyed them and defo don’t want to go down the 29er route
  • 112 2
 Wow! It’s like Transition has been reading the comments on Pinkbke for two years and built the ultimate bike with the information they gleaned! If I did not have the new Enduro, I would totally be in love with this bike. Ticks all the boxes and the cheap build is actually very smartly put together. And short crankset? YES Please!!! This is an awesome sled.
  • 33 0
 @pierre22: I think the same AI from the pinkbike twitter account designed it.
  • 6 61
flag Maestroman87 (Jun 1, 2021 at 7:02) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like they just slapped a 29 on the current model....
  • 10 0
 Does not seem like they are price gouging either.
  • 35 2
 @alwaysOTB: Nah, I will be a life long Transition supporter because they have kept their prices down to earth (as much as possible) during the pandemic. I will probably never buy an Ibis or Santa Cruz because they used the pandemic as a reason to increase prices like 20-30%. I also really really like my new Spur.
  • 19 0
 @HB208: Yeah, seconded. They are also play an active and positive role in the community here in Bellingham. They are a company I like to support whenever possible.
  • 5 2
 @jerrytek: I know Santa Cruz does trail building as well, but I am not a fan of how the company has used the pandemic as a way to push prices up and up. They are also PE owned along with its sister company, Cervelo.
  • 3 0
 @alwaysOTB: correct. My 2017 alloy Patrol was $2000 frame only with an average Super Deluxe. Seems like they’ve tried to keep a relatively low price point for the frame.
  • 2 0
 about the short cranks....looking at the BB height/drop 333/22mm I dont think anything longer than 165mm will work properly
  • 1 0
 A bot response indeed...
  • 58 1
 Transition giving the people what they want
  • 48 3
 Thanks Transition for investing in alloy. Let's be honest, for the 90% of us we can't truly justify the extra $1k for a carbon frame. Even if it's a pound lighter, carbon just is not worth the extra $$. Last I checked the Meta is the winningest Enduro bike of all time, never produced in carbon...
  • 32 2
 I have never understood the appeal of carbon. I've got a few pounds around my waiste I could lose, plus, hearing rocks ping off my frame doesn't trigger me. Alu is great. spend money on rims & tires if you want to drop weight and actually feel it.
  • 18 2
 @jesse-effing-edwards: In many ways carbon is just more available to buyers. Of the 10 or so bikes I've bought in the last few years, getting them in alloy was either difficult or not an option. I think most of us would consider alloy if it weren't of such limited options. Though the cry for aluminum sounds very much like the cry for steel when everything was aluminum.
  • 10 4
 my carbon enduro was only $500 more than this…
  • 4 14
flag dylansanderson2004 (Jun 1, 2021 at 14:24) (Below Threshold)
 it because the non sworks version is carbon wrapped around fiber glass, they dont say that but it is, and the patrol has the best shock in existance in my mind
  • 4 0
 @foggnm: A lot more bikes were hardtails around the time bikes went to aluminium, which makes sense for the want for steel
  • 5 0
 @dylansanderson2004: can you prove this?
  • 1 0
 @TheBearDen: fact- it was the early 90's hardtail era when bikes went from steel to aluminum!
  • 1 0
 @foggnm: I felt your pain, which is why when the Ripmo AF came out it was at the top of my list. I think the industry has been following trends and demand by consumers for fancy stuff, but if most people had just taken a reality check on their biking needs I doubt Alu would have ever been pushed into the second tier. Banshee and others are doing amazing things with alu which have me totally questioning the need for carbon beyond raceframe and maybe handlebars.
  • 1 0
 @moroj82: Does it have factory suspension or similar build kit? doubtful
  • 1 0
 Which is? @moroj82:
  • 50 24
 Question is.... are the decals easy to remove? Or is there a clearcoat over the raw finish?
  • 27 51
flag Jeddi7 (Jun 1, 2021 at 2:17) (Below Threshold)
 Fr, these decals belong on something from 2015
  • 8 3
 It does what it says on the tin !
  • 7 0
 Gorgeous bike! Interesting they went with same travel front and rear. Is that a mullet thing, or is overforking becoming less of a trend? I hope the soon to be released model is an alloy sentinel.
  • 10 57
flag Jaib06 (Jun 1, 2021 at 4:26) (Below Threshold)
 That is actually a deal breaker... The graphics are so damn bright. For the last time, nothing goes well with Fox orange. Please.
  • 117 2
 Damn ... you guys really keep looking for something to dislike no matter what the bike is.
  • 4 2
 Yes, this. Hoped to remove one of the decals on my brushed alloy Nukeproof, but it's under the clearcoat.
  • 24 3
 @asapyohanes: seriously, its outrageous at times... a couple stripes down the top tube & seat stays and people here act like it makes the bike unrideable...
  • 12 1
 @asapyohanes: agree. Bike looks great and kudos to transition for building something different.
  • 2 9
flag ianblenden (Jun 1, 2021 at 5:56) (Below Threshold)
 You can always remove the clear coat if you want the frame to be raw; aluminum doesn't need it.
  • 1 6
flag Grosey (Jun 1, 2021 at 6:12) (Below Threshold)
 @Jaib06: sucks that you cant do anything to cover the little bits of fox orange... I mean, chances are covering thats gonna totally boid the warranty. Dammit!
  • 1 0
 @kcy4130: it says you can throw a dual crown on it if you want.
  • 2 2
 @s3ntin3l: I just meant that most of the bikes in transitions line up in the last few years have or had 10 to 20mm more front travel than rear travel. Which made me curious about why this one doesn't.
  • 5 0
 More bikes need to come raw with decals over the clearcoat. More raw bikes!
  • 6 1
 @ianblenden: have you ever worked with uncoated aluminum? Unless you want oxide residue over everything, you need it (take a look at bike shoes after you rub the crank ano off). Plus any rub points will see a significant material loss over time compared to having a clearcoat. Despite popular belief, Aluminum oxidizes rapidly, but that oxidation provides protection for the Al beneath. rub it off and the oxidation of the exposed Aluminum starts over again.
  • 2 0
 @Maestroman87: I have! I have a raw v1Transition scout. The oxidization layer is barely visible, and I don't remove it often if avoidable. I'm also in a VERY arid, dry environment. Corrosion is pretty avoidable with care.
  • 9 0
 @WY228: No one's saying the decals make it unrideable haha. The bike itself looks sick, just saying it would look so much cleaner left raw with a single logo on the downtube
  • 1 1
 @WY228:It's an awesome bike. Transition clearly paid attention to lots of details, so the decals over the clearcoat are just another another detail that would put it over the top for some of us. It's all good.
  • 1 1
 Decals are most likely for the mullet, retro theme.
  • 10 0
 @ianblenden: Corrosion (oxidation of Al) occurs in nano-seconds.... pitting corrosion is avoidable especially in dry climates... I have an old raw Morphine frame as well. Rub your hand up and down the tubes, you will easily remove the oxide layer to some degree. (Source: I was an aluminum manufacturing Metallurgist)
  • 2 2
 @Maestroman87: I don't get my bike muddy much, so I don't have to wipe down the frame often. That being said, wiping it with my hand leaves no residue. I don't mean to say that raw frames don't have their downsides, I just haven't experienced them.
  • 3 0
 @Jeddi7: exactly
  • 1 2
 @kcy4130: the 29 on front basically equates to 10mm of extra travel
  • 1 0
 My local bike shop has the file and said they will print me some black or colour matched graphics to cover what I’d like, happy now?! @Ridgeline5:
  • 25 1
 Another vote here for an aluminium Spur. I would buy one for sure.
  • 27 7
 Love the oversized head tube, means +\- 6mm reach adjustment possible....

Not so keen on the 29er length chain stays. Love a more snappy back end on a mullet / 27.5
  • 5 12
flag islandforlife (Jun 1, 2021 at 10:35) (Below Threshold)
 I think it’s because this is a 29r frame that they put a 27.5 wheel on, which is why the front travel is only 160mm in order to offset the geo changes somewhat, but doesn’t make up for all of it which is why the HA is so slack and the bottom bracket is so low. Interesting that the seat tube is still quite steep, the 29 version (if there will be one) must have a seat tube that’s about 0.25 degrees steeper.

I love a mullet and will be going back to one next season, but they work much better when built from a 27.5 frame with more adjustable geometry.
  • 1 0
 This was legit designed from factory as a mullet. No 29 to 27.5 of Bose versa. Clear mullet only frame. The spire on the other hand has options to mullet where the geo deficiency your getting at might matter. Here we are Gucci baby @islandforlife:
  • 2 0
 Since I wrote this I have ridden a mullet with 442mm chainstays, and it felt as snappy as a bike with 430mm chainstays - the mullet turns over a lot easier - so 440mm on a large is probably perfect! Its as if Transition knew what they were doing all along lol
  • 23 2
 Can I run a cascade link and a 190mm fork on it?
  • 35 7
 If you want to totally ruin it Smile
  • 29 1
 @novajimmer:
It’s a joke - its all people ask on the transition forums.... “can i put a 140mm fork or my Spur?”
  • 4 2
 @Richt2000: More like: 150; Fox36!
  • 9 63
flag hi-dr-nick (Jun 1, 2021 at 5:38) (Below Threshold)
 @Richt2000: I will admit most transition owners are friggin simps haha
  • 13 0
 That is a good looking bike. Aluminium too, and the big steerer make it of interest to me
  • 11 0
 great looking bike. Nice touch giving reach/angle adjust headset compatibility. Any idea on frame weight? I know that weight doesn't matter.... except that it kind of does
  • 3 0
 Yes, I am also curious about the frame weight! It kinda matters haha.
  • 8 0
 Really looking forward to trying this! And Hannah's riding... I wish I rode like that! I'm so stoked on the female content recently to show my daughter!!! I think we're going to more from Transition in the near future! Especially in the alloy flavour that a lot of people have been asking for.
  • 10 1
 Thanks transition for releasing my dream bike. I’ll buy that deore package next year when Coronavirus hasn’t murdered my service industry job
  • 81 2
 Never mind just preordered a frame set.
  • 10 1
 Love Transition Bikes, don't like Carbon. This new release fills me with hope and joy!
  • 7 1
 The most exciting parts about this IMO, is that it is alloy, and the fact that Transition is now offering different chainstay lengths across the model sizes. The aluminum frame because we hadn't seen one from them for a while, and afaik this is the first time we've seen more than one chainstay length for a Transition bike. So both are pretty noteworthy.
  • 9 0
 This bike is killer, well done Transition
  • 9 0
 1.5” straight head tube - brilliant!
  • 6 1
 I didn't realize it was still legal to create and sell a non-high pivot bike in 2021.

Seriously though: amazing price and spec on the builds. $5400 for all XT and Fox Factory suspension? That's like, shockingly reasonable. Kuddos Transition.
  • 9 3
 "Transition releases new 2022 alloy........"
My heart was racing in the hope that the next word in that headline would be ".....Spur". Oh well, maybe one day.
  • 9 2
 Yay! Aluminum! Would love to see other models following this, cough, such as the, cough, spur! This bike looks sick too.
  • 4 0
 An alu Spur would be my dream bike. Agree this bike looks lovely too.
  • 2 0
 I wander how long those flex stays last in alu..... The would have to design a pivot I am afraid.
  • 5 0
 @tremeer023: if you want an aluminum spur, consider a banshee phantom. I got one about a week before the spur came out and was kinda bummed, but man i f*cking love it. My big enduro bike is feeling a bit neglected cause it’s all i wanna ride.
  • 3 0
 @Longroadtonowhere: 100%. I own a Spur as well, and wouldn't have been disappointed if I had to buy a Phantom.

I *thought* I had the perfect quiver, a Spur and a Patrol, until our local DH spot closed its lifts for good. The Patrol is now relegated to travel riding. Part of me wants to consolidate into something like a Scout or Spitfire
  • 1 0
 @Longroadtonowhere: thanks for the suggestion. The Phantom looks good in raw, great to have options. I have a nice steel ht for everything (it's flat where I live), but a short travel rig that can take a beating would give my ageing bones a rest until I give up entirely and buy a people carrier, I mean e-bike.
  • 1 0
 For the lifetime of the bike because it has a lifetime warranty ‍♂️@dennis72:
  • 1 0
 @blowfish1: pretty sure they are talking about the "what if" for an alloy Spur.

An alloy Spur would not allow for flex stays I wouldn't think!
  • 5 0
 My only issue is the sizing. Too much of a gap between small and medium. Small is way too small for me and medium is way too big. If the bike fit me this would definitely be my top pick to replace my specialized Enduro.
  • 1 0
 Ha, glad I’m not the only one who noticed that!
  • 1 0
 @HeyBaumeister: hopefully transition sees my comment and makes one that's 435 reach. I'll place my order now!
  • 1 0
 @ThunderChunk: Just buy a shorter offset stem.
  • 2 0
 @haen: ya considered just getting a 30mm stem. I'll have to sit on one and see if it would work. The steep SA definitely helps
  • 1 0
 @ThunderChunk: If you're worried about the seating position, just slide the seat forward on the rails. Get the medium and embrace the longer reach for the descents.
  • 4 0
 "Transition recommends running between 27-33% sag, a fairly wide range that allows riders to choose whether they want a firmer, more supportive feel, or one that's more active and plush."

That is always true: that you can run a little more or less sag to change the feel... Has it not yet become common enough knowledge that the recommended sag is just a starting point? Is it really not commonly known enough that they have to explicitly call out that it has a range? That's a sad sign.
  • 3 0
 Interestingly, the "current" carbon patrol is no longer on their website. Maybe they sold out of them? I'm keen on trying something like the Sentinel, but not keen on a full 29r setup. The thought of mullet Sentinel had crossed my mind, but I don't think that would be sub-optimal. A 160x160 29f and 27.5r Patrol is a very interesting bike indeed.
  • 6 0
 The new alloy frame looks superb! Can't wait to see them in the flesh!
  • 7 38
flag lev3000 (Jun 1, 2021 at 3:00) (Below Threshold)
 I’m looking forward to their e-bike release, later this week!
  • 6 0
 @lev3000: Ha! In your dreams!
  • 6 2
 This is one has the longest chainstays of all their bikes, can you put a 29 on the back? Does anyone know how much that would roughly change the seat and head angles?
  • 23 6
 why would you want to? 27.5 is sick AF
  • 12 0
 It'll turn the seat tube angle from "on top of the bars" to " you have to reach behind you to steer"
  • 23 0
 Why not get a Sentinel instead if you want full 29?
  • 7 0
 Very minimal changes, less than a degree steeper for both. Biggest difference will be BB height, which will go up maybe 10mm for similar tyres. This would be a plus in my view as the BB is too low for my neck of the woods.
  • 3 3
 @T4THH: I'm 6'2", the MX set up isn't really necessary for me. I'm not as affected by the 29" wheel in the back.
@gunnyhoney: 510 reach on the xl is a pretty decent reach. Especially when it is still a 77° seat tube angle.
@melonhead1145: no alloy version.
@Mugen: thanks for that, I was commenting the same time that you were.
I was just curious if anyone knew what a 29" rear wheel would do to the angles.
  • 2 0
 @Vudu74: yeah I was just messing around. I have the previous alloy version and I think the seat tube is pretty good where it is at like 77° or whatever. On flat roads it feels like I'm on a road bike unless I drop the post a bit. I'm also sure you know that putting a 29er rear on a 27.5 designed frame is a bad idea unless you check all clearances...
  • 1 0
 @Vudu74: I was also looking at the medium which is real steep my bad
  • 4 3
 @Vudu74: I'm 6'5... I just don't think wheelsize is a sizing thing unless you are particularly short and would struggle for clearance
  • 1 0
 @gunnyhoney: I have one too and honestly I have the seat slammed forward on the rails and still kind of have to fight the front wheel if I'm not paying attention.
  • 3 0
 @Vudu74: So I can give you pretty accurate numbers in the end!

I tested my YT Capra 29 in mullet mode, and got -0.7 on the head angle and -6mm at the BB. So expect the reverse in your case.

I will add that mulleting my bike with a 27.5 rear wheel did very little to the bike feel or handling. For comparison, I added a -1.5 degree headset (noticeable change), overforked a bunch of my bikes by 20mm (noticeable change) and mulleted a 27.5 bike up front (dramatic change).

So yeah, if it fits go right ahead, but maybe the bike they will announce in a few days will be better suited?
  • 1 0
 @Mugen: you must be psychic, the Spire is just what I was going for.
  • 9 6
 .. i hope it is just me, but those welds look really cheap and sloppy. Maybe that is their prototype frame for the pics? Maybe I have the wrong contacts in the wrong eyes again, idk.
  • 5 1
 Vital's review states it's pre-production
  • 7 6
 It's not just you... and IMO being a prototype or preproduction is no excuse for poor craftsmanship.
  • 2 0
 Almost looks like they MIG welded it.
  • 1 0
 Agree it look characterless made cheaply in Taiwan.. just cast you mind back to the beautiful figure of 8 carbon frame ... no comparison ... nothing to do with weight my criticism is about looking good as well as functional ... I think with this one you are 50% there I am afraid
  • 1 0
 I noticed that too. The welds definitely look sub par for transition let alone any brand in this price range. I hope production models look better than those. I want one!
  • 2 0
 What is up with their CAD pricing. $2300usd =/= $3200CAD, should be >$2800CAD

Even the base model at $3700usd is $5300CAD which is almost $1000 more than it should be. I understand the dollar is lower right now, but that is insane. Should be >$4500CAD.
  • 1 0
 Just got off the phone with them. They aren’t willing to do anything woah kinda dissatisfied. I have a pre order and a deposit on one. But idk that kinda pissed me off I might pull the plug. I asked if I could pay in USD and they said no.
  • 8 4
 When will you transition to direct sales so I can actually afford one of your bikes?
  • 3 2
 They are direct sales, lol.
  • 6 0
 @zeronine3: They use a distributor in the UK and even before the pandemic the pricing was a bit ambitious.
Now they charge £4.5k for a Sentinel with NX and a Lyrik Select.
  • 2 0
 @chakaping: no different to spesh or Santa Cruz then...
  • 1 0
 @melonhead1145: Exactly, such a shame innit
  • 2 0
 @zeronine3: they sell in shops as well. Many transition dealers around Vancouver. They aren't a direct seller like commencal or yt.
  • 5 1
 So...why 27.5” rear if you’re gonna do long chain stays? I thought a mullet setup was all about the short rear end.
  • 3 1
 Yea said the same thing. Scout is 430mm so even if it isn’t the same as that they should have gone 435mm for large. But 440-442 on a large gives very little benefit of having a mullet. May as well just ride 29er...
  • 2 0
 27.5 turns over quicker, especially through a series of turns where youre turning the bike over from side to side
  • 2 1
 Id bet because they are getting more than one model out of some of the frame components like they often do and so there are compromises...?
  • 1 0
 @stiingya: idk if its possible but the chainstays look like they have enough room for a 29
  • 3 0
 @Richt2000: +1. This isn't a Patrol, it's more of a mulleted Sentinel.
  • 4 0
 1,5 head tube coming back, AL coming back; I assume 180 fork with 27,5 wheel will not affect geo as well
  • 1 0
 Finally!! Have been waiting for a replacement for my 17 AL Patrol! I know TR aren't the cheapest but their AL bikes are absolute tanks and supporting a small rider owned company tends to come at a cost. After the last Patrol was carbon only I was worried I would have to find something from Commencal or elsewhere
  • 1 0
 I'm still riding my 2015 alloy patrol and its age (and associated creaks and groans) is the only reason I'm considering replacing it. This would be the natural choice if (a) you could actually get one delivered and (b) you could actually afford to pay for it. Will have to wait for my LottoMAX win tonight...
  • 2 0
 So, did it work out?
  • 1 0
 We rode this bike a month ago in Bellingham and oh man, this thing rips! long, slack, playful, and it actually climbs really well!

Congratulations once again @TransitionBikeCompany we are really excited to have them here really soon!
  • 1 0
 I was going to get the 2020 TR Patrol but it seems that everything was out of stock. The bike shop said that they're not bringing in new batches of the 2020 Patrol anymore. Then this came out, it all makes sense now. I got a Norco Sight because i couldn't wait. It seems like a very similar bike to this one... minus the mullet and 10mm travel in the rear.
  • 1 0
 I am curious as to why mullet bike with a 27.5 inch rear wheel still has a huge cassette on the rear? There should be an opportunity to save some weight here I would think as you get a naturally lower gear with the smaller rear. I'm sure you would get away with a 46 as your tallest gear and be just fine. Some people probably have power enough that even a 42 would be fine.
  • 1 0
 I have an ‘18 Patrol, it’s fun as hell but I can say it’s doesn’t climb or descend as fast as my riding buddies that have all went to the Specialized Enduro. Granted my friends are 40lbs heavier than me, so the downs I get it, but the climbs, I’m absolutely a better tech. Rider and fitter... what’s the deal? Also on the alloy I hope transition upgraded the paint they use, miy bike has more chips than a Doritos bag...
  • 3 0
 Wow! If I needed a smash bike to accompany a short travel bike...this would be at #1!
  • 6 3
 Patrol used to be the coolest bike, now I think I'd rather have a Scout or Sentinel
  • 2 0
 Is it correct that the effective STA slackens as the frame size increases? That's opposite to everyone else offering variable effective STAs.
  • 5 0
 If I’m not mistaken Transition measures at different seatpost heights for different sizes. So it should be the same angle across the range, just as you get taller it effectively slackens
  • 2 0
 @leadsledpaintrain: I've been waiting for the industry to get sensible about measuring effective STA. If true, this is great!
  • 2 0
 @boozed: In the geo chart, they have a line for seat height which increases with each size, so we can see where those STA numbers come from.
  • 1 0
 I really should have spotted that...
  • 3 0
 Now this is more pleasing to the eye, take note POLE, theres no need for it to look like a quazi eyed monster
  • 3 0
 Have to say, I love my 2020 carbon Patrol too much to even think about replacing her yet.
  • 2 0
 Want to pre order bcuz bike park season. However I don’t think this would be a quiver killer bike. Might stick with the Meta TR with a coil.
  • 1 1
 That's a sick bike. If it climbs well then this could be a big game changer. Having ridden my Capra as a mullet, it's so fun going downhill, but the pedaling doesn't justify it outside of the lift line. If Transition makes a mullet that can pedal and climb well? Beer
  • 2 0
 What does a 1.5 straight headtube have to do with dual crown fork? Dual-crowns will work on tapered just fine. Is this frame certified for it?
  • 2 1
 I'm just gonna play it cool and keep riding my 2018 Patrol Aluminium with Cascade link, Öhlins TTX22/coil and Fox36 /Smashpot.
I do like a raw frame though, so might blast it coming winter to keep up with the current tech.
  • 3 0
 Chaz is back, baby. Chaz is back.
  • 1 0
 Is that a longer A2C OEM Z1? Or will the geometry be different in that configuration/spec to the ones using the same travel ZEB or 38?
  • 4 1
 Is it now the norm to pay 2'299 $ for an alloy frame ?
  • 2 3
 And that's a steal!
  • 4 1
 Inflation is real
  • 4 1
 That's in the ballpark for a high end aluminum frame these days, in line with what Banshee is charging.
  • 10 5
 Nukeproof Mega Alloy for $1800. IMO this frame is overpriced. Transition is not high end, they are in line with most other larger frame manufacturers.
  • 6 0
 Go check Bird, Privateer or Commencal
  • 3 0
 @Arierep: commencal frame comes without shock...with shock its roughly the same as the transition
  • 2 0
 @funkzander: They used to be in the 1600-1700€ range with shock if I'm not mistaken. Not sure this year tho
  • 2 3
 @funkzander: Meta AM with Float Factory X2 is $2050, not the same as $2300. $250 can buy a lot of things for a build.
  • 3 0
 @porkchopsandwich: In Europe, with a DPX2, the Meta AM 29 is €1900, just checked
  • 1 0
 @porkchopsandwich: ok thats great! last time i checked for the meta tr with a x2 it was nearly 2300. 1700 for frame and 600 for shock
  • 3 0
 Check out Guerilla Gravity or Canfield - both are better deals, and offer real 27.5's.
  • 3 2
 Thats so sick! I actually sent them an EMAIL on numbers for a MULLET patrol and its what I said in the mail ....christ so good TRANSITION !
  • 4 0
 WOAH they must have READ your email and THOUGHT it was so GOOD they put it into PRACTICE. There's no other EXPLANATION.
  • 1 0
 @Linkpin: I THiNK so !
  • 3 1
 Another soon to be anouced model hummm let think does Sentinel ring a bell???
  • 3 11
flag truehipster (Jun 1, 2021 at 8:46) (Below Threshold)
 E-Bike
  • 5 0
 @truehipster: Transition doing an e-bike? Hahaha.
  • 6 0
 I'm hoping for a new Smuggler.
  • 7 4
 2021 in the front, 2012 in the back
  • 2 1
 With bike prices going the way they are, this is where it’s at. High spec alloy models with approachable MSRP. Well done Transition!
  • 1 0
 Thats perfection . Very nice. I wonder what their new model theyll be releasing is? If my guess is right, they should call it the "trigger" or the "meltdown"
  • 1 0
 AL, remove a spacer in the X2 to have 170mm travel, 200mm 27.5 dual crown fork compatible. Good work Transition. Looking forward to the June 3 release too
  • 2 0
 My question is how much does a full build weigh and how much just the frame?

Their bikes are often a little chunky.
  • 2 0
 It is 15,69kg in XT spec size MD. Almost the same as the old ALU.
  • 2 0
 @hobitx: So 34.5 LBS for us stupid Americans.

That's not outrageous for an aluminum build that's sturdy. My Remedy was 28.8 but that had carbon everything.

Hmmm... might have to consider one of these frames as I can swap wheel set back and forth from my chameleon. hmmmm.
  • 1 0
 Fantastic bike Transition. If I didn't already own a Meta AM I would jump on one of these.

How much does a full build large size weigh?
  • 1 0
 Riding 2017 Patrol alloy MD size with 432 reach. I'm not sure if I can adjust to the frame any bigger. Maybe I should downsize to SM?
  • 1 0
 Think this transition would be a f/s I look at getting, if I was in the market.
  • 3 1
 This looks straight up fun. Eff the haters.
  • 1 0
 I think the bike deserved a video, article, and an audio book. That is a proper masher.
  • 1 0
 Transition be releasing new bikes and I can't even get my hands on a Spur frame.
  • 2 4
 Definitely made for 165 cranks. Jeez I thought pedal strikes were bad on the last patrol.this is just a scooter made for bike parks. Hopefully they come out with a mixed wheel scout with a realistic BB height for tech or alpine riding
  • 6 0
 In the high setting the bb is the same as the old patrol.
  • 1 1
 Low setting is for 27.5 at 200 or 180 29. Go bigger on front end in summer .
  • 2 0
 The 165mm cranks are spec'd as they are the only cranks in stock until 2022.
  • 2 2
 don‘t think this is for me ... Transition Spire coming out Thursday might fit the bill. Full build under 15 kg and I‘m in
  • 3 3
 Love the concept -- surprised they couldn't get a base complete below $3k. Same bike as the new spesh status which starts at $2600 (assuming you can find one).
  • 2 2
 Not the same exact bike of course -- specs differ and chainstay length are much different, but you get the point.
  • 2 1
 Love it. This is the type of bike we need. Bikes like this and the Commencal Meta and the dream.
  • 1 0
 Really like what Transition has done here. Frankly I really like everything this company does lately.
  • 2 0
 430 mm seat tube lenght at 475 mm reach, oh yes!
  • 2 1
 Stoked to see other companies following Norco in adjusting rear center and seat angle according to frame size.
  • 2 2
 No thanks, I'd rather have a bike that is easier to manual and do tight switch backs. Those are 29er chainstay lengths.
  • 2 0
 @Old-Guy: a balanced bike is easier to manual and do tight switchbacks. lol
  • 1 1
 @dkidd: longer chainstays have never made a bike easier to turn or manual.
  • 1 0
 love the stickers...makes my 2017 smuggler look like a 2022 bike. new bike day for me
  • 1 0
 Prices on transition site listed as $5,599 for XT, $4,899 for GX, $3,799 for Deore.
  • 1 0
 Leaving AL frame was their worst mistake, getting back on the 160 with mullet? ive been waiting for this, SOLD
  • 2 1
 Mmmm - Do Like - Very Much!!
6mths too late for me this time around Frown
  • 6 6
 Sadly the HA is too slack for my liking... If it would be 65°, then this would be my choice.
  • 13 0
 Slam an angleset on it
  • 2 11
flag Boxmtb (Jun 1, 2021 at 3:31) (Below Threshold)
 Looks like a session!!!!!
  • 14 0
 Throw a 26" up front. Reverse mullet.
  • 3 1
 Isnt that the point of the straight 1,5 steerer tube. You could size down and then put an -1,5 angleset on there to get 65 HA and reclaim the reach that you lost by sizing down. Options man, theyre great.
  • 2 4
 @rokokong: sizing down will also likely reduce your stack, so to compensate that you put more steering spacers which further reduce the reach. Trigonometry man, it's great
  • 1 0
 @Arierep: Just buy a longer stem and a wider bar. Checkmate
  • 1 0
 I love what they did there
  • 2 0
 To ship in 2023
  • 1 0
 SHITE! I just bought an Enduro to replace my 17 Patrol!!!
  • 1 0
 Is it available in Xl Raw. I want one today.
  • 2 1
 Stoked this is aluminum, prices look pretty competitive!
  • 1 0
 Another dream bike to add to the list
  • 1 1
 I like Transition bikes and this new is another beauty beast, with a reasonable price!
  • 1 0
 Wonder if the weigt will be sub 4kg without shock
  • 1 0
 ... I wonder what my 2016 Patrol would be like with a Mullet setup?
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Vitus Sommet!
  • 1 0
 What was wrong with a raw frame, why the ugly decals?
  • 1 0
 This just went to the top of my short list.
  • 4 5
 Just a Sentinel v2 in alloy frame with tweaked rear triangle, so as to be mullet-ed as is the new trend nowadays and renamed to new Patrol... next!
  • 2 0
 100%.
  • 1 0
 Cheap enduro alloy frame is all we need. But not this price for a frame.
  • 1 0
 Hot fire! I love Transition bikes and they have done it again.
  • 1 0
 Do I need some knee pads with this?
  • 2 1
 Nice. Good to see low BB's. Low is the way.
  • 2 5
 No it’s not
  • 1 0
 My 34" inseam says otherwise. 165mm cranks are fine if you only shuttle, or go slowly uphill...
  • 1 0
 Okay, i'll say it.. Oooh baby I like it raw!
  • 1 0
 If I didn't have a Titan already, this would be the way to go.
  • 7 7
 Seems like a lot of money for an XT alloy bike. Friggin hate inflation.
  • 15 9
 take it up with the Federal Reserve and Congress. 10,000,000,000,000 new dollars printed in less than 1 year. shit's about to get real, dog....
  • 5 4
 @conoat: yeah, thanks Biden. Bloody hell.
  • 9 4
 @conoat: billions of dollars are created and destroyed every day in the markets and somehow you're an expert economist on this being the single cause of inflation? Also inflation has been between 1-2% steady through the pandemic and previous. Cost of raw materials, and transportation are driving prices up, not inflation.
  • 4 4
 @friendlyfoe: wow. your understanding of economics is laughable, and I am being generous.

first, where.....ohhhhhh where do you think the increases in raw materials and transport are coming from? I generally am pretty interested in hearing what you think could be the driver here. furthermore, what do you think makes inflation go up or down?????

second, dollars are only created in one place, and they can only be destroyed in one place. The Federal Reserve. when money is printed, THAT is inflation. Inflation is the increase in money supply. Which has 100% happened. What you know as "inflation" is really the effects of inflation. What you think of when dollars are "created and destroyed" in the "market" every day, is just value changing hands. it's not created nor destroyed.

also you are wrong about "real" *inflation* rates. the CPI is up 4% in 2021 alone, and that's a usually rosey indicator. real inflation is passing 6% currently and heading higher. Somewhere around the 8-10% mark, it will increase it's speed due to such simple things as wages needing to come up to attempt to keep up(which is impossible, before you try to make that point), then it spirals.
  • 6 6
 Just make a Grim Donut already and be done with it!
  • 1 0
 Wow new fox 39!
  • 1 1
 Any clue on frame set spec and UK pricing?
  • 3 1
 will probably be over 2k for the frame which is an utter rip off
  • 1 0
 Frameset will be £2200 with fox float x2 factory plus headset
  • 1 0
 @mtb-scotland: sadly it looks like they’ve not bothered with exchange rates on the full builds. Unlikely to be able to find one in stock anyways I suppose Frown
  • 1 0
 Yeeewweee!
  • 1 0
 sexy!
  • 1 0
 GX build looks sick!
  • 1 0
 Yikes
  • 1 2
 Nice to see it sold as a mullet.
  • 1 1
 Everyone loves a patrol!
  • 2 5
 same old ugly welds
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