PRESS RELEASE: Transition Bikes
We are very excited to finally drop the curtain on the Relay! Living in uncharted territory, the Relay is a lightweight, long travel, modular mountain bike. Available in the second half of March, 2023.
We have always wanted a bike that could provide both an electric and non-electric experience in one chassis. The Relay is light, efficient, and quiet. This provides a more intuitive and natural feel on trail than many would expect from an eMTB. The Relay is here and ready to meet all of your mountain biking needs. Going for a rip with friends on eMTB's? Power it up and head out. Going for a rip with some friends on mountain bikes? Simply remove the battery and hit the trail with no tools required. The Relay does it all.Two Bikes in One
Full of modularity, the Relay can be ridden with the battery installed and powered, or removed, which transforms it into a regular mountain bike. Its versatility allows you to take it on a road trip where your plans include riding in areas that are legal for eMTB's, and also areas that do not allow eMTB's. The tool free battery door allows you to remove and reinstall the battery in a matter of seconds.Relay vs Relay PNW:
The Relay and Relay PNW share the same frame. The lower shock flip chip adjusts the geometry to compensate for a 27.5" or 29" rear wheel. Both Relay and Relay PNW have the ability to be run at 160 or 170mm travel front and rear, dual 29 or mixed wheel. Riders can choose the Relay with dual 29 and 160mm travel for a more lightweight, trail bike feel, or chase their burly trail dreams with the heavy hitting Relay PNW with 170mm travel and mixed wheels. How Much Does it Weigh?
Starting at 42.5lb/19.27 kg with the battery and 37.5lb/17.01kg without the battery. Every Relay is purpose-built with components to be ridden hard, making it one of the lighter, heavy hitting eMTBs on the market.Motor / Battery Details
The lightweight 60Nm Fazua Ride60 drive unit weighs 4.3lb/1.96kg. The minimal drag and power to weight ratio provide the magic when not riding with power. As you begin to ride beyond the speed cutoff you're not penalized when continuing to push beyond the assistance like that of traditional eMTBs. The 430Wh battery, 60Nm torque, 250Wh continuous power, 450Wh peak power, and overall bike weight work harmoniously together. This all equates to an experience that exceeds what you might expect from its numbers.
The 430Wh battery weighs 4.85lb/2.2kg. It is easily removable via the tool free battery door underneath the downtube. The battery is charged off the bike, which is a bonus for customers with challenging bike storage and charging situations. The tool free battery door makes this hassle free, and it greatly simplifies the frame and door interface making it lighter and more durable.Display / Controls
The simple and ergonomic ring controller adjusts modes with a gentle nudge up or down. Pushing it up increases the power level, pushing it down decreases power level, pushing inward will activate walk mode. Holding the controller up for 2 seconds from any assistance mode will activate a boost mode, giving you peak system power output for roughly ten seconds.
The sleek display on the top tube consists of 5 led lights to give you an indication of power mode and battery life. The Relay has three power modes designated by different LED colors. Breeze mode (Green) is very functional in many situations, and is custom tuned by Transition to use in varied terrain, not just riding to the trailhead. River mode (Blue) is preset to match the amount of energy you are delivering to the pedals. If you're soft pedaling it delivers a minimal amount of assistance. If you're hammering it will give you as much available assistance it can, which provides a very intuitive experience and range management. Rocket mode (Pink) provides maximum power to help you tackle steeper climbs and challenging terrain, it will reduce your range but packs quite a punch.
The Fazua Ride60 app pairs to the Relay via bluetooth technology. The Relay comes equipped with our well thought out profile, but you are able to fully customize your settings in all assistance modes. With Max Power and Support Relation you are able to set the maximum mechanical power output and torque in each mode. Support Relation allows you to adjust how much assistance you are given in relation to how much force you apply to the pedals.
Ramp Up allows you to adjust how responsive the system delivers the assistance in each mode. Whether you're an experienced rider looking for the most responsive and powerful setup, or someone who values more distance out of your rides, the app provides a comprehensive array of adjustments to tune your ride to your liking.Watch Hannah Bergemann and Torsenn Brown shred the Relay
Pricing for USA and Canada:Relay
Relay Alloy NX $6,799 USD / $9,199 CAD
Relay Carbon GX $8,799 USD / $11,899 CAD
Relay Carbon GX AXS $9,999 USD / $13,499 CAD
Relay Carbon XX $12,499 USD / $16,999 CADRelay PNW
Relay PNW Alloy GX $7,999 USD / $10,799 CAD
Relay PNW Carbon X0 AXS $10,999 USD / $14,499 CAD
Learn more at transitionbikes.com
As for whether something is considered lazy or not, doesn't it go for everything? For a healthy person to opt for the elevator over the stairs for climbing three floors is considered lazy and wasteful whereas for others it might be the only way. Something similar goes for 5km commutes (car vs unassisted bike) etc. There are nuances everywhere. If it is the only way for you and it is important to you (which includes mountainbiking to keep you sane), go for it. If not, weight the pros and cons (which includes environmental impact) and make your own decision. If you're about 14yo or older, you should be able to do this.
As unpopular as it may be there is a faction of mountain bikers out here that strongly oppose excessive use of batteries on bikes for those who don’t require that assistance because of the environmental impact it has on the areas where lithium is mined. No good reason a healthy teenager should be cruising around on one. Batteries are becoming essential to most things in life these days, and hopefully production will become more sustainable but its not there yet and everyone should scale back as much as possible within their own comfort zone to reduce the impact. When it does become more sustainable then their use for fun-to-all becomes more justifiable. We just want our kids generation to inherit a earth that is in better shape than in generations before. Humanity is supposed to go forwards, and open minded educated debate is a big part of getting there.
Also if you have a dog, dont sell him for an e bike. Take him out on the trail with ya
Who cares what anti ebike guys think? I had lots of opinions when I was young that I am glad to have grown out of. These whiners will be no different.
"You have to pedal, so the motor can do the work"
There, fixed that for you!
It’ll be a cold day in hell to convince me to get an emtb. 33 yrs young, work 50+ a week and have been since a teen, full time loving dad/husband, my slight scoliosis acts up here and there, knee pops, still refuse to give into the excuses for an emtb. I have no shame in hiking up something I can’t pedal up. Different strokes though.
My son is my inspiration to encourage me to scale back and reduce impact as much as possible. Seems irresponsible just to make things easier for me at the sake of his generations’ future.
If lithium production/disposal is more sustainable in the future I might hop on board, but it has a long way to go. Maybe one day we’ll have hover bikes powered by good vibes, seems unlikely as though. This isn’t avatar where I can plug my hair into a dinosaur to get around. Everything takes it’s toll.
All forms of energy production have their downfalls and benefits. The best thing anyone can do is scale back, and adding a lithium battery to a machine designed to be operated through human power seems straight up wasteful in most situations. The fact people believe lithium powered things are the solution to excess consumption is silly. I do industrial sustainability stuff for a living, not some whacko environmentalist, I see the impacts of humanity everyday. Maybe people don’t realize what all goes into it, or they do know but don’t care which is really disheartening.
I do think they are a great tool for the right person or situation. But for as much as people passionately argue that side, I find it odd that I’ve never seen those uses out in the wild. Just healthy people blasting around on them for their own benefit.
And by all means don't get one. I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. I don't have any kind of e-bike myself. The fact is tho, those who ride them (you and I seem to have very different experiences with people we know who do) are blissfully having fun and nothing else matters to them.
One of my closest life long friends (we graduated HS in 80 so yeah we're old) made the switch and it's been a game changer for him. He's been mountain biking since the mid 90s and now at 60 he bought his first e_MTB. He still rides his traditional road bike.
For what its worth I do ride on some trails that are posted with "no e-bike" signs but I generally go when no one is around. Surprisingly, when there are riders there, I have noticed about 30% of them are on e-bikes. I have also had the opportunity to ride in Europe where about 70% of the bikes are electric. Times are changeing.
we are all waiting....
Yes I am being slightly a hypocrite on my cell making this point, but I truly think most e mtn bike use is straight up wasteful.
I gotta say my father must of missed that memo because he is pushing 70, recently beat prostate cancer, and has some constant pains, but the dude still knocks out these epic 100+ mile rail-to-trail style ride with his old head buddies without a battery, motor, or eagle. Guy is a savage.
Heres a quick analogy for you. If you went to the doctor and your doctor was like “hey dude stop doing that thing thats bad or your going to die” would you say “nah doc thats fake diagnosis I’m gonna keep blasting it out regardless of the cosequence, ignorance is bliss!” Or would you try to get your health back on track?
I’m trying to tell you that wasteful lithium mining is screwing up the planet, which is bad for all our health. It’s not some made up opinion, it’s real.
Maybe y’all would care more if a lithium mine was in y’alls back yard, but hey lets keep exploiting other country’s ecosystems for cheap stuff that gets your rocks off. Your ignorance to the facts is unreal.
And honestly if you’re old and broke off and need an e mtn bike, maybe pick up a new hobby? Like guitar, philosophy, or something else. I’d hate to see someone with a disability end up more disabled because someone convinces them a how powerful e mtn bike is up their alley because hey its accessible.
I’ve had no trouble passing groups on my heavy slack battery free MX coil shredder going uphill and down. You don’t need a motor to have fun or go fast.
There are very few situations where e mtn bikes are justifiable. Take it or leave it.
I guess we are destined for ignorant wastefulness. Good job marketing!
I’m now feeling wasteful because I thought I’d try to use my phone to have a real conversation on PB, but turns out minds are shallow and not open. Scale your life back and preserve resources/ecosystems. Peace!
Just because things are easier or more convenient doesn’t make it right.
The level of hypocrisy from folks who claim they are environmentally friendly is ridiculous. But hey keep living in your fantasy land, and keep hating on those who are educated in science/engineering and not afraid to expose the truth for what it is. You do you homie.
So where do you draw the line? I am in complete agreement that we need to take measures to protect what is left of our planet for future generations. Global political reform to enforce more stringent regulation of emissions, reduction in personal consumption, travel, etc, all things that need to happen. What else are you doing to better improve the prospects of future generations?
In another comment you maintain you are here for open dialogue, yet here you say "keep living in your fantasy land" and "you do you homie". Is that a debate/dialogue? Where one person draws the line for personal or environmental reasons will be different from somebody else. Hell, you come from the land of the free with some of the most wildly diverse views on the planet, you should know this better than anyone!
Back to bikes. Yes both aluminum, steel, and carbon fiber bikes require materials and energy to make; but they can all be recycled. Compared to lithium mining their production isn’t anywhere as negative though. Lithium mining is environmentally degrading, and the batteries can’t be recycled at the end of their life cycle. Adding that on top of everything else just makes it even more wasteful. Maybe one day it will become more sustainable, but its not there yet. I do think ebikes make sense for commuting, but they are hard to justify in the mountains. There are a few cases where I find them as acceptable. But straight up people with disabilities using e mtn bikes need to be careful. I think its a slippery slope encouraging them to take part in a high intensity sport. Some can handle it, for others it might not be worth the risk but that is for them to decide. Ive know skilled riders who have gotten hurt on e mtn bikes due to the unexpected power. And the truth is most folks I see on e mtn bikes are perfectly healthy and are using them for the greed and convenience of more laps. They also ride in areas where they aren’t even allowed. Stick to shuttle zones if you’re gonna e mtn bike. I also don’t think getting old is a good excuse to justify one if you are still healthy. Just accept your reality, work hard to stay strong, and don’t exploit someone else’s back yard for resources just to make your climb easier.
I agree we all consume to live, but we should try to scale back as much as possible and give back to the earth as much as we can. E mtn bikes for healthy folks is a waste of resources and has real world negative repercussions to our vital resources needed to survive as a species.
But this will be my last time commenting for a while. I’ve come to the conclusion that the comments section is toxic on PB, not a good place to have real world convos.
Thanks for your response bud. Hope you have a great day.
100% serious this time though, done with the public comment platform. If you want to continue the convo drop me a message directly becuase it’ll pop up in my email. Not going to monitor this thread.
You do have tendency to wright very very long post's; maybe a podcast would be your medium to express concerns and feelings if your throwing in the Pink towel. Bye
Side note: The ebike is a rear-tire destroyer. I'm almost done with the one that came with it, and I only got it late October. I am replacing it with a dual compound version and hope it'll last longer. If I get the same result, I might have to try another brand. Currently it's a Maxxis DHR 2 in 2.6.
I will also address your rear tire / ebike concerns: I thought the same, but as you get a few years into it I predict you'll notice that your eeb isn't destroying tires at a faster rate than your pedalbike, you're just riding more/longer/smile-ier.
The rest of it uhhhhhh dude I don't know where (or why) to start, so errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr have a good one
I've ridden our bikes a couple of times and they're a blast to ride up a techie climb, no one's going to tell they're not. They also pride quite nicely on the way down to be fair, still way prefer my bike though. From a purely riding perspective I don't think they're the devil incarnate but I just can't help but feel that we have enough batteries in our lives as it is with stuff that we pretty much need to get by living a normal life in our present paradigm, I'm personally going to avoid batteries on my bikes where I don't need them to have a great time, I may feel differently when I'm in my 60s or 70s, who knows.
PS if you or anyone you know doesn't share my pont of view and rides an eMTB please set your seat height correctly. Getting past by an ebike on a grueling climb I can deal with no problem. But getting past by an ebiker with they're knees in they're chin just drives me nuts! (Probably my problem really, but it's still nicer to pedal with proper leg extension, motor or no)
standing here with my arms crossed, chin up high: mushroom gravy dripping off the eebfleet
where do I start? I mean, do you bang on this hard about a Porsche when you see one? lmao....just grow up and form opinions and ideas using more than just your Id
Clueless? Far from it.
I’m about to do something I never do because I value modesty when it comes to skill sets and believe that actions speak louder than words.
My first tax paying job was at 15 I worked the drive thru at McDonald’s for $5.75/hr. I just kept leveling up from there. Hard work and drive builds experience. Would recommend all younger generations get off tik tok and the like. Pursue an education, work hard, and make a difference in the world.
My knowledge comes from hard work and an inner desire to make the world a better place, and the things I’ve learned along the way. I’ve studied hard in environmental engineering/science, physics, thermodynamics, energy production, chemistry, sustainability, the list goes on. I wasn’t born smart. It came from keeping my nose to the grindstone and working hard. At one point in time I could have pursued a sponsorship in freestyle snowboarding if I really wanted to, but instead felt I could make more of a difference if I followed a path of education and hard work so I gave it up.
Industries I’ve helped make more sustainable are coal power plants, ash pond remediation, cogeneration power (natural gas and hog fuel), nuclear power, lumber mills, steel mills, aluminum casting facilities, paper mills, building materials, skatelite/richlite, aerospace manufacturing, transportation, rendering plants, dairies (dry milk, cheese, milk, butter, ice cream, yogurt) poultry processing, vegetable processing, seafood plants, vegetable/fruit processing plants, glass manufacturing plants, the list goes on; and I’m not dine yet. Have saved millions of BTUs and preserved millions of gallons of fresh water. All because I put in hard work trying to reduce the impact of things everyone uses but take for granted on where those things come from. I’ve done non profit research investigating ways to remove mercury/methylmercury from aquatic ecosystems and help secure government funding to continue the research. Helped plant trees. Helped farmers fight invasive species. Habitat restoration. Stream/river management and reconstruction. Native species reintroduction. People in my line of work respect that put long hours, sweat, sometimes blood, into something I’m passionate about. They also like I’m a straight up no nonsense talker because my clients don’t have time for sugar coating, they are under real pressure to make things better and I deliver that value. You should be glad there are hard working folks out there like me who give a damn.
What have you done to make the world a better place?
Don’t you think based on knowing a little about my background now that maybe I know what I’m talking about? Yes we all consume, but adding more waste on top of it all is no good. And lithium mining is real bad. I’d encourage you to go see for yourself.
I hate on porches all day. Not sure why anyone needs one to drive down a road.
I’m laughing as I write this because honestly I have nothing to prove to you because I’m living the dream and don’t need internet friends or likes. Yea I work a ton and play less that I used to, but still ride amongst the upper echelon when it comes to shredding.
And yes Mr. Owl X I’m out for good to find other platforms with folks more open to challenging conversations. Just back to respond to a low blow. Y’all can have your kicks back to stroke your troll lifestyle. Will stay focused where I make big impacts on the preservation of our planet. Cheers.
I’m not saying that ebikes are environmentally friendly, just that mountain bikes in general aren’t, so you can’t really use the environmental argument against ebikes. If you were so concerned with the environment you give up your bike full stop and go run naked through the forest.
also, I think you win the PB Commentor Blowhard 2023 award. It takes a lot to be this self important on a cycling website, as well as wrap up the title so early in the year, but you are correct....you really put in the work, put your nose to the grindstone, go the extra mile, talk straight, put in the long hours to live the dream!
Now never return. Your word is at stake.
And sometimes I call my e-bike my Tesla bike or BC Hydro bike
Bring on the uptight downvotes!!
I feel like "pedal bikes" and "e-bikes," are the most intuitive and natural terms. Couldn't care less what someone else calls them, but "accoustic bike" seems a little cringey sometimes idk why.
I'll starts saying eebs when the uci incorporates ebikes into enduro and they call it EEBSEDR
weird how many linguistic concessions people want to make to keep insecure moped riders from feeling excluded.
Glad I could set that straight!
adding analog or acoustic to a regular bike just seems like extra work for a descriptor that doesn't make sense or add anything.
Good job that I still love riding my 2020 Patrol Carbon.
A lot of people already have 5-10k bikes. They don't want to have to spend $8-15k to get into an e-bike. But if you sell a $4k frame set with multiple batter and motor options then people can put their own shit on them and get into an bike for under $5k.... that'll open some doors.
SRAM GX on an e-bike is awful. It shifts so poorly and ends up grinding and popping all over the place.
I really like this bike and plan on buying one but not until it’s offered with an XT/SLX combo.
If you want man wheels, there's a gap.
Dudes trying to beef up Spurs and not liking it.
Dudes trying to make Sentinels less slack and lighter.
There's defo room for a 130 all rounder.
I demo’d a spur and wasn’t immediately sold. The rear felt too chattery. I did not mess with suspension. My current bike has a Cane Creek rear so I don’t believe it is a far comparison.
Realistically I’ve never broken a bike. Nor have I found one that won’t handle what I intend to ride. I’m not limited by my current bike. My current bike just isn’t ideal for the 50 rides I get in a year.
do you also feel impotent rage when you see an old guy driving a GT3RS? if so, get to work and go get yourself one!
Think of it as 2 bikes, not 1.
"...ride with friends without ebikes"
"...ride in areas not accessible to ebikes"
Finally, I can buy an ebike and I won't be discriminated !
I’ve been looking forward to this bike for quite a while now.
BASE PRICE: 11,299.00 USD*
But it's not carbon.
It's very simple:
-The non-removeable motor in this bike weighs 4.3lbs
-It's safe to assume that there is AT LEAST another 2lbs of weight between the e-bike frame requirements, hatch door, control panel electronics, etc. Making this 'frame without the battery' about 6.5lbs heavier than an analog version of the bike given the same build.
So, this bike without the battery in it would be ~6.5lbs heavier than an equivalent travel analog Transition Spire.
That's actually a lot of weight increase for a pedal bike. For example: the weight difference between the downcountry Spur with GX and Spire with GX is less than 5lbs.
If you can't/won't enforce a rule or law, then it doesn't exist, effectively.
I'm a fan of the bike, but why can't we just use 1, 2 & 3?
Why is every bike company trying to come up with a fun-tastic new way to replace numbers?
No shame about being a total Transition fanboy so this looks reeeeally appealing except for the one big kicker. No Shimano build. I simply won't buy a new bike with SRAM on it. It can simply F right off. At least do a frame only (obviously including all the eeb stuff) version!
Not sure what's newsworthy here, been riding my Transition with and without battery power for years ;-)
And yes, just like the Relay it is "... purpose-built with components to be ridden hard, making it one of the lighter, heavy hitting eMTBs on the market."
And the Woke brigade on their high and mighty horse saying lithium batterys are bad. Isn't aluminium and carbon bad. Isn't having a bike worth £$ awful when people are starving?
I don't really care what you think. Just amazed how you think.
not cheap, but I've been looking at an e-bike and a mullet enduro bike...what if they were one and the same??
Still feels like if you can hold out another few years, ebikes will be a ton better and at least not more money then.
38lbs isn't not doable with some fitness. But still 4lbs too hefty for daily driver status, without a battery, IMO.
Most AL enduro bikes in size large or larger are going to be 36-39lbs with “actual” components on them.
My Banshee Titan was 37lbs with mid weight tires, WAO carbon wheels, and otherwise moderately weight conscious spec (Mezzer pro fork, Advent X drivetrain). And it’s only gotten heavier since then (DH tires and deore 11s).
I agree though. Love that weights and power are coming down. As soon as battery tech changes to solid state/something else lighter, I think we will see a lot of compelling products out there.
I've heard the Relay is keeping up with the Repeater on most rides...super fit dudes on both, dudes who'll pedal anything any day anywhere, so that's a factor, but yeah, I'd like to know too. I'm on a bike with an E8000 motor (70Nm), and the EP8s (85Nm) are roasting me...so this Fazua (60Nm) may not feel too different, and I'll be able to pedal around with the kids without having too much fun in their faces...
Anyways: i'm hyped. Let's go
I think the Relay will be my next bike, but I'm also wondering what the alloy version will weigh. I'd guess 3-4lbs more than the carbon frame. So I'd bet a size large alloy NX build would be in the neighborhood of 46-47lbs with the battery, 42-43lbs without.
Seems like weight needs to come down a hair for them to be worth riding without the battery, at least for the range/power you get with the battery.
I think you should clarify what your life goals really are. You say you are invested in your family, wouldn't you like to be around to see some grandkids? Maybe be able to run and play with them instead of checking out with arteriosclerosis?
Every pedal stroke you make is an investment in your future, everything a motor does for you is a withdrawal from that account. Trust me, I'm in my mid 60s and I've had 14 knee procedures and 9 foot or ankle surgeries. I'm not still going because I got a moped when things were tough. I'm still going because I put the work in.
Sure I'm not as fast as I used to be, but when I go to the doctor they always comment on how great my heart is. Forget instant gratification and start thinking long term. Especially if you actually care about your family...
I also Own TR bikes so..........
I like the concept and the bike looks great. But $13500 for a meh build?
I do have a Relay PNW GX on order to be clear.
Transition makes great bikes but they’re not light.
I can't even.....
Transition Spur, 120/120 XC frame.
Weight: 2140g / 4.72 lbs
Ibis Ripley, 130/120 Trail frame.
Weight: 2090 g / 4.61 lbs.
Stumpjumper 140/130mm trail frame
Weight: 2125/ 4.69 lbs
Transitions *cross country bike* is literally heavier than some brands trail bikes. That doesn't take anything away from the Spur. It's a phenomenal bike. It's just not light.
Ok, your turn. Let's see your research. Maybe you can enlighten me?
Where are you getting that Ibis Ripley weight from?
Ibis website: www.ibiscycles.com/bikes/ripley
Scroll down to specs section
Copy and paste...
Frame Weight 5.4 lbs (2430g), Medium, Red, w/o shock
Transition website: www.transitionbikes.com/Bikes_Spur.cfm
Look at specs chart - bottom row, far right frameset option
Copy and paste...
5.4 lbs/2.45 kg (Size MD w/shock)
KEY - the Ibis weight is WITHOUT the shock...the transition spur is WITH the shock
Are you referencing the Exie?
Transition alloy frames are heavy...their carbon ones are on the lighter side
All weights from Fanatik
Well...looks like one of the sources is wrong - so I guess we can both be right haha
I still consider transition carbon frames to be on the lighter weight side of things (mostly due to the simplicity of the horst-link / four-bar suspension of most of their bikes). With enough of a budget you can get on low 33 lb spires and high 31 lb sentinels with DH casing tires
1) the lack of a frame only option SUCKS.
2) the removable battery is just a huge failure point and also appears to be adding 2-3#s. The removable battery thing just needs to die.
It's not like there are any other HP TQ or F60 motored Enduro travel bikes available in the states at this time.
The Forestal products are solid and a similar category though.
For me removable battery is a must! That's the biggest appeal to this bike. You are clearly not the audience for this bike.
A non 15 second removal battery doesn't mean it can be disassembled and removed.
Besides, if they don't make a battery for you, you'll still be in the situation with a removal battery.
Scott Ransom, M, 5.95 lbs w/ Shock
Rider: But I took the battery out, look!
Karen: Still an ebike buddy, still an ebike . . .
I bought a Spire XT and love it. A year in I've only changed the bars for OneUp.
A similar build relay would be super tempting : XT/OneUp/DT. Perfect build for me