Transition Announces All New Patrols Come With a Coil Shock

Sep 24, 2019
by Transition Bikes  
#ONCOIL

by TransitionBikeCompany
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Follow along as our longtime friend Craig Harvey takes you through the history of the #ONCOIL lifestyle, and what it means to be #ONCOIL. With proper Oncoil riding by Marco Osbourne, John Richardson, Craig Harvey and Sam Shaw.

ONCOIL Patrol carbon X01

We're going back to our roots, the simpler times. When you would grab your bike and head out for the weekend. You might encounter a day of pedaling or a day of shuttling, and you need your bike to do it all.

It's a way of life, not just about your shock. You might see your friend take a different line, that's #oncoil. You might watch your friend try a new move, jump or feature, that's #oncoil. You might watch your friend jump their truck, that's most definitely #oncoil.

In response to the mass influx of inquires about installing coil shocks on the Patrol, we're proud to announce all Patrols now come #oncoil. Here's your chance to take a step back, grab your bike, and leave your shock pump at home.The Patrol you love, now #ONCOIL

HIGHLIGHTS
▪ Coil shock on all completes and framesets
▪ SRAM Centerline 200mm F and 180mm R brake rotors on all builds
▪ SRAM Code brakes on all builds
▪ RockShox Lyrik and Super Deluxe Coil now included on alloy NX complete
▪ Patented Loam Shelf Meter on all builds and frameset

ONCOIL Patrol X01
X01 build with orange highlight decals and ANVL Mandrel handlebar. Fox 36 Performance Elite fork and Fox DHX2 Factory 2-position shock. $6199 USA MSRP

ONCOIL Patrol Carbon GX
GX carbon with RockShox Lyrik Select+ fork and RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Select+ shock $4999 USA MSRP

ONCOIL Patrol GX alloy
GX alloy with color matched Fox 36 Performance fork and Fox DHX2 Factory 2-position shock. $4399 USA MSRP

ONCOIL Patrol NX
NX alloy with Rockshox Lyrik Select fork and RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Select shock. $3399 USA MSRP

carbon frameset
Carbon frameset with Fox DHX2 Factory 2-position shock. $3199 USA MSRP

Alloy frameset
Alloy frameset RockShox Super Deluxe Coil Ultimate shock. $1999 USA MSRP

Built in Loam Shelf Meter technology
Our patent-pending Loam Shelf Meter technology comes stock on all #ONCOIL Patrols.

This is definitely ONCOIL
Kelend, demonstrating the ideal way to fill your Loam Shelf Meter.

photo
The Kelefari is always #ONCOIL.

Photo Oliver Parish
When you're #ONCOIL, it's easy to turn it up.

Berm turn down. Photo Oliver Parish
Or down.

ONCOIL Patrol alloy GX

The new #ONCOIL Patrols are in stock and ready for anything.
Head over to https://transitionbikes.com/Bikes_Patrol.cfm

Kyle co owner of Transition Bikes laying the new ONCOIL Patrol flat. photo Skye Schillhammer


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302 Comments
  • 212 2
 Forums be like
“Anyone running an air shock on a Patrol”
  • 82 0
 And the replies will be like:
"Nah bruh, Patrols are not air compatible, the leverage curve is way too progressive for air...."
  • 46 2
 Then someone suggests fill helium into shock because it's less density than air.
  • 6 0
 FILTHY shot @2:18
  • 12 11
 @eldsvada: What is weird is I find the leverage curve on transitions to be way too linear. Maybe its just that the DPX2 on the Sentinel and the Scout is messed up and you can't put a larger volume spacer in without voiding the warranty on your shock.

Maybe fix this transition? Eh? eh?
  • 16 0
 @eldsvada: no word about changing the almost linear leverage curve though...
  • 1 0
 I loved the new Patrol immediately. But after buying it and really using it i found it sooooo tiring in comparison to the Nomad (that some find too soft) or even the 2017 Patrol. Putting a TTX22M coil from Ohlins was the answer. Not sure if it is the coil or just a better shock though. The Sentinel has the same problem for me by the way.
  • 2 1
 @Oldgerald: Similar issue, I did not like the DPX2 that came stock. Instead of coil I went with the Topaz and also swapped the Performance Elite 36 with a Yari Charger. MUCH more supportive and easier to pedal for longer rides. It is still not in a hurry to accelerate but it isn't as bad.
  • 6 5
 Safe to assume the tune on the #oncoil shock has been designed around the curve. Its Transition we talking about here, they don't release an un polished product
  • 4 1
 @Number29: Sadely it's not "safe to assume." I love transition, but they did mess up the leverage curve and/or shock tune on the Sentinel and Scout.

Both bikes come stock with a DPX2 with a relatively small volume spacer in it. Fox has 3 larger spacers available, but the shock transition used cannot accept the spacers because according to Fox it can cause "pressure spikes" which will either aerate your damper or just make your shock blow up. This leave a bunch of riders either sticking the spacers in and risking blowing their shock up, or being stuck with a linear curve that bottoms out a ton and/or using way too much air pressure to compensate.

I have a friend who literally destroyed her bottom out bumper in one season. She is running tons of pressure, but the curve is just too linear and likes to ping off the end on big hits.

So far I haven't seen anything from transition about a re-design or issuing a different shock tune. When I reached out to them about it, they said that some of their employees just put in the larger spacers and don't worry about the warranty.
  • 1 0
 @bikekrieg: Quite soothing to hear dont worry about warranty because it provides you a reason to upgrade to newer shock.
  • 2 0
 I own a Sentinel and while it took me a while to figure it out, I wouldn't say it's all screwed up. I run slightly more air pressure, dialed back the compression a bit and it does everything I want it to from 25 mile big mountain days to bike park.
  • 2 0
 The dpx2 elite works great and my 2019 patrol carbon rocks - In my imagination I’m on on coil, but thats as far as I’ll go. Transitions EWS team is running DPX2 with a custom tune. As some mention the bikes to linear for coil - my friend who inspired me to get a petrol was running dhx2, but switched to ews dpx2 due to frame linear stroke.
  • 1 0
 Feeling certain this violates the bike worth more than car mantra we plebians have learned to live by. That's an 80s toyo with more than 4 carbon bikes worth put into it
  • 95 17
 No shimano built. too bad.
  • 29 7
 it'll be ok Math.
  • 11 1
 Ya was hoping to see SXL at least
  • 30 1
 Or maybe Doere
  • 16 3
 Buy. The. Frame.
  • 10 4
 @pargolf8: loose out on value by doing that
  • 21 21
 I know right! Shimano's patented wondering bite-point technology is super unpredictable fun!
  • 5 5
 They're unreliable as an oem brand apparently!
  • 5 2
 @ImAManCheetah88: Imo sram is quite a valuable turd then
  • 27 21
 @apartmentwhale: bleed. Your. Brakes. The wandering bite point is air in the line. Dont care about your opinions. If you bleed them correctly they dont wander
  • 11 6
 @pargolf8: oh believe me we do! Again and again and you get it. These are right out of the box bleeds on brand new bikes. It's not just their mtb brakes either. 105, Ultegra, SLX, Zee, and of course the King of Wander the XT.
  • 11 21
flag skibuilder (Sep 24, 2019 at 19:58) (Below Threshold)
 @apartmentwhale: lol you are clearly admitting you can't bleed brakes properly fool ????
  • 7 0
 @skibuilder: that's likely the problem. Probably not setting the very sensitive and wildly effective Free Stroke Adjustment correctly
  • 4 1
 @pargolf8: Riddle me this: if there is air in the line, why is the bite point wandering? Air in the lines will cause spongy brake levers, but they're going to be consistently spongy. If this was true, which it isn't, then it would also be a problem with other makes.
  • 1 0
 @nicktee89: What riddles me is that the deores dont have this problem at all somehow. Ive been using them for about 3 years now and ive bled them once so far because they became spongy at some point. After 3 years that was to be expected i think. but the bite point (while not adjustable on deores) has been consistent.
  • 1 0
 @Jaybirdy: Ya or RXT
  • 1 9
flag clarky78 (Sep 25, 2019 at 11:23) (Below Threshold)
 Ain't called Shitmano for nothing..
  • 1 0
 @apartmentwhale: which bike shop do you work for?
  • 1 0
 @apartmentwhale: at least they dont need bleeding every day and the levers dont cause RSI
  • 1 0
 @nickfranko: Changes in atmospheric (and system) pressure from elevation changes, and thermal expansion due to temperature changes. Air causes lots of odd problems and symptoms in hydraulic systems, especially self contained master/slave style systems like brakes.
  • 72 14
 A heavy frame gets even heavier... Carbon 8.53 lbs. - 3.87 Kg | Alloy 10.54 lbs. - 4.78 Kg
  • 22 17
 That's what I was thinking, might as well run a real DH bike.
  • 48 11
 This is the bike you can take to the park, and then ride all day. I did ~35,000 ft of climbing in ~150 miles on mine during the Trailforks 30 Day Challenge.
  • 117 21
 @Thustlewhumber: This is the bike you can take to the park, and then ride until you realize you're pedaling a park bike uphill.
  • 10 5
 And I ran park laps this past weekend at Silver Mountain.
  • 44 48
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2019 at 6:55) (Below Threshold)
 @chriskneeland: They missed the edgy boat. 160 frame at more than 3kg is just stupid. I had a Nomad made of 6061, with frame coming at 2.9kg,
Flat landed and cased the last shit out of it and it shown no signs of breakage. Commencal Supreme SX is heavy too but at least it has 537 moving parts and a longer chain.

They should have sold a DH bike with a dropper, Eagle and a lockout. It would weigh the same, climb just as well and be much more capable on descents. What is a bloody point of making a 160 park bike? 160 is enduro racing standard.

Make it at least 180/180 or you better bent over to weight weenies a bit. World is almost ready for the return of VP Free and Uzzi.
  • 2 4
 my Patrol with XX1 Eagle and a 11/6, Nox weighs about 32
Heavy!
  • 48 4
 I would rather have a heavy frame than one that can't handle the abuse.
  • 11 0
 It's as if the Patrol is becoming a true freeride bike.
  • 27 26
 @pacificnorthwet: except a 25% lighter frame can take lots of abuse. This is as heavy as their DH bikes from 2010
  • 118 15
 oh no. someone on the internet thinks my bike is 1.5 lbs heavier than it should be. I hope I'll be ok.
  • 65 37
 @CarlMega: we don't really care whether you are offended or you have transcended online criticism of inanimate objects that happen to resemble ones you keep in your posession since you found the purchase of them meaningful. We just want to say that this is a heavy bike, without caring about who owns one. "Oh I will cirticize this bike and hope someone will feel shitty about it" No, most of us don't get there. Namaste.
  • 3 1
 @MarcusBrody: Just without enough travel.
  • 4 1
 @pacificnorthwet: That's been the funny part over the years. Transition has always been heavy but have seen tons of them get played, sprayed and laid to rest.
  • 8 6
 @owlie: Nope, it's just another new standard. Think back to the golden age of downhill when you had one bike (can you imagine that?) And you rode everything up, down, sideways, and O.T.B.. It was a simple time. No it was a better time. Basically what I'm really saying is.....quit whining and go ride your FU(KING B!KE!!!
-Happy Shredding
  • 9 3
 @WAKIdesigns: you trying to ride sometime bro
  • 23 20
 @youknowitsus: I tend to say I don't ride, makes some people feel better about themselves since what is the alternative? - he trolls, shits on people and rides better than me? Oh that would be awful!
  • 45 8
 @WAKIdesigns: good lord, I see your name more than Trumps. Must you opine on every piece of PB content?
  • 27 35
flag MikerJ (Sep 24, 2019 at 8:21) (Below Threshold)
 The Transition marketing machine does not want you asking any questions specifically to the function or the performance of their bikes. Just be awestruck by the extreme cool factor of their advertisements aimed at 14 year olds. Just spend thousands on a frame base on coolness and don't ask questions. Sorry I shouldn't be so pessimistic... even my 13 year old could probably see through their paper thin marketing ploy. (Hey, maybe Transition makes a great frame and maybe they perform very well - too bad their ads can't convey that. Reminds me of our presidential elections where it's considered "uncool" to dig deep and actually think about an issue. Transition has always thrown out digs against riders who are interested in understanding the mechanics and physics behind what they are throwing money at.)
  • 16 2
 @MikerJ: They do ride well; the Patrol was pinkbike's bike of the year, I got a Scout because I couldn't find a single negative mentioned in any review and I love it
  • 10 1
 When has Transition always thrown out digs at riders interested in understanding the mechanics and physics of their bikes? This is the first I’ve heard of this. Whenever I’ve stopped by their HQ in Bellingham that’s all they talk about. Well, that and all the great trails they have right there. @MikerJ:
  • 17 4
 Weight helps for downhill. The relationship of sprung to unsprung mass is important. Also I really don't get why so many non-racer complain about weight. All it does is make you fitter. Yeah its gonna suck the first few times riding with your buddies on lightweight bikes, but 2 months in and you will be able to keep up easy.
  • 9 0
 ... So how long until the industry pushes us back to air springs (again)?

"Infinite tuneability VS coil shocks- correct shock setup is the most important thing for your performance!"

"Lighter weight means faster times- fewer watts expended to get to the top and fresher legs for the descent!"

"Our new XXL multinegative air spring with linear compensator and finned heat sinks gives your air shock an off the top feeling thats BETTER than coil!"
  • 9 0
 @MikerJ: On the flip side, if you look at marketing machines to explain to you the performance and function of a bike then you're just as gullible as anyone buying into a "paper thin marketing ploy". Nothing wrong with silly humor as opposed to enginerd based marketing.
  • 15 42
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2019 at 9:50) (Below Threshold)
 Oh I love the anger flowing here. So tasty, juicy. All I know is that Transition (or any company I wish to support) are super cool guys and have great trails behind their office and they shred, and ai shred and you don’t shred cuz you whine on internet” oh mnom “and yhqt makes my argument valid, cuz we’re cool and you’re not, I like cool guys, I want to hang out with cool guys, that makes me a cool guy, and anybody who doesn’t like it can suck my groin, um yea, I have such a coolperioroty over you” - “oh you bring up cool, you use word cool, are you twelve?”, “am a be over you no matter what tou say, cuz you don’t know what you are talking about”. -but why? - cuz you said that bike is too heavy and that makes you a noncooler cuz if you were as cool as I am you would be riding yo bike not sit on the internet.
  • 3 2
 Coil gets heavier. Those are frame + shock weights
  • 13 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Yea, cool bro.
  • 12 1
 @WAKIdesigns: Dude...take a lap. Sure, you can criticize relative weight to competitors options but making random-crap takes like 'just ride a DH bike instead" is stupid. In the scheme of things, a minor weight penalty is pretty inconsequential in terms of the overall ride characteristics from geometry, kinematics etc - it's the sum of the parts. My 8'' bike at a similar weight certainly does not ride the same as this bike. Different purposes and intention..
  • 10 35
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2019 at 11:27) (Below Threshold)
 @CarlMega: you mentioned geometry, kinematics, yeah, YT has it dialed, just like Trek, Spec, Focus, Scott - what does Transition have that other don’t? 2 pounds of metal more! Big Grin like Commencal, but Commie at least doee not look like a Generic Jinese bike! So what are you left with? Silly videos laughing at serious marketing of the past? Oh wait... Spec does that better, YT goes awkward and Trek goes retard. What do we have left? I don’t know, Transgender Patrol? Whatever, throw it at me
  • 10 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Is this a serious reply? meds. sorry you don't like the looks - that's ok tho. Each of those brands have positives and negatives as does this bike. Maybe calm down a little bit man, not everyone has to like all the things you do. For me, the patrol had: the stays length I wanted, the reach and ETT I wanted, the BB height I wanted, the HTA I wanted, the travel I wanted, the frame material I wanted, the BB type I wanted, the routing I wanted the STA I wanted, tire clearance I wanted... worked well with a coil. IMHO the suspension kinematics are good but there are better but most the other options I looked at were lacking in a few of my other must haves. It was delivered to my door in 2 days and didn't cost a mint. It's a fine option but not the only option. Finally- I was on wait list for a similar US made carbon bike - get this - same weight as the Patrol. OMG! If it wasn't delayed 3 months, I'd be riding that
  • 2 0
 I tell that to myself every day as I look in the mirror.
  • 7 1
 I really don't know what the BFD with weight is, unless you're trying to win an XC race. My 35 lb, coiled Patrol with a burly wheel set and Cush Core is comfy as hell to pedal all day...
  • 4 0
 @CarlMega: " Is this a serious reply?" The answer is no
  • 11 22
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 24, 2019 at 12:39) (Below Threshold)
 @CarlMega: no I don’t need meda. If you or anyone else cannot grasp a simple fact that this frame is 2lbs heavier than it needs to be, then it is highly possibly you who needs meds. I suggest nutropics and psylocin for brain growth...
  • 15 7
 @WAKIdesigns: shut up clown
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Uzzi returned in 2016 and nobody paid atention to it! It did retail for over 3000 euros just for the frame in aluminum though which is pretty ridiculous, but yeah, with the new fox 36/38 as described in pinkbike haha. It's time for rock shock to #BRINGBACKTHETOTEM and for the new uzzi...? Or a new wheel size standard, who knows in this strange world that is mountain biking
  • 7 0
 @Thustlewhumber: Most mortals cringe at pedaling everyday, nevermind averaging over 1000' climbing. My "trail" bike was 37# and I loved every ounce of slashing/hucking/popping fun built into it.
#WayOfLife
  • 6 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I suggest dumping 2 tablespoons of dried beet juice powder in your mouth and riding hard until your bike doesnt feel heavy anymore.
  • 2 0
 @Chonky13: Gosh, were you not paying attention to the video at all? The hashtag is #ONCOIL now.
  • 1 0
 @phops: So much stronger than if all you ever ride is ultra-light bikes. Love your comment!
  • 1 0
 @src248:

I rode the old Scout and thought it just ripped the downhills....the suspension just worked so well on the downs, but climbing had a lot of pedal bob, so it wasn’t efficient enough for my riding. I’m hoping to demo their new bikes to see if they are any better at climbing.
  • 1 0
 @MarcusBrody: no needs 26 or at least mullet 26 27.5
  • 2 0
 @scvkurt03: Heard that. I'm riding a 26" Covert from 2010. I have no clue what the thing weighs and really don't give a shit! I'm still on 2x as well with a bash ring, chain tensioner...the list goes on. Yeah, i'm not the fastest dude uphill but neither are my buddies so it works out well for us all!
  • 3 9
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 25, 2019 at 0:35) (Below Threshold)
 @stefanfresh: we'll get there. Average Joes need to get a bit better at riding, they will then use tyres with thicker casings (well most people I meet on 160 bikes use EXOs, says a thing or two). Once they do it, there will be no point using less travel for amateur riding. Also in 2016 EWS had a hiatus of racers using 140 bikes, which helped sell Down country bikes. This year many pros were on 170-180 forks. Even on 29ers. Many few things need to fall into place but they will.
  • 12 8
 Holy fk, I really should quit, quite a few dumbsters can't get the simple fact that they ride something one fkng kilo heavier than what folks have on the other side of the street have, getting nothing in return other than silly marketing vibe, which possibly speaks best to idiots. Yeah, now it makes sense I am going to ask myself a question most people in the world who ever opened the site have askedthemselves: is Pinkbike comment board composed of 20%, 50% or at least 90% idiots?
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: HIRED!
  • 4 10
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 25, 2019 at 3:04) (Below Threshold)
 A note to @TransitionBikeCompany - I really don't have anything against you guys, other than I am quite unlikely to buy any of your bikes due to other companies looking more attractive. I live and let tlive, it is not a problem of mine, neither of yours, that some of your clients and fanbois cannot deal with the fact that quite a few people are not willing to accept 1kg penalty. Or whatever the hell they want to write about... I really don't care and I wish you all the best of luck. Let your business flourish in balance with your riding and family lives. Also all the best of luck to these poor souls, in hope that one day they will smarten up and recognize that some people don't share their opinion and highly possibly will not change it...
  • 1 0
 @phops: yes and no. I moved to a Hightower and my riding buddy got a fuel ex. he was smoking me on hills for a year before I gave up and got a fuel myself. geo makes a difference.
  • 2 2
 @WAKIdesigns: you aren't alone on this sentiment. Patrol ain't the best for trail riding, all mountain or enduro because they can't climb and are extremely heavy. Would rather get a downhill bike before buying this.
  • 3 6
 @PJSANAB: I am pretty sure quite a few of the folks laughing at people who worry about 1 kilo of weight more, run 1ply tyres on their enduro bikes.
  • 1 0
 Remember when Trek, Pivot, SC DH bike weigh around 14-15kg.
  • 1 0
 @stefanfresh: Don't forget the new Mezzer- I really want to try it
  • 2 10
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 25, 2019 at 7:49) (Below Threshold)
 @chyu: My friend took his Fuel EX to big mountains and ended up with running DH tyres and a coil shock. It weighed the same as his Session 9.9... so when I say 160 bikes these days weigh as much as DH bikes, and for recreational use, individuals may consider runnig 180-200mm of travel, with dropper, lockout and wide range cassette in order to fully enjoy descents - I know what I am talking about!
  • 7 0
 Not sure where this Transition bikes weigh a tonne more than their competitors has come from? Sentinel frame is 0.14kg heavier than a slash, 0.40kg heavier than a bc edition altitude and 0.43kg heavier than a ripmo. Yeti, cruz, specialized, Norco, Orbea and Devinci haven't got frame weights available on their websites yet all sell frames.

You can build any of these into light weight expensive rigs that will struggle once you point them down something tech or you can speck them into something that will survive a beating which tends to be the way most transition owners seem to lean too.. I guess haters are always going to hate...
  • 4 1
 @WAKIdesigns: You're letting out the industry's dirty little secret. If people find out enduro bikes are just less capable DH bikes, companies are going to be pissed!
  • 1 0
 @kwdog:
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I don't troll anyone. Here in the states, the TRUTH is now seen as trolling. I put peoples' egos in check because the industry is being overcome by them and it needs to be done to protect the core of our sport, which is all-inclusive, posi-vibes ONLY. You ain't tryna ride Wacky!
  • 1 8
flag WAKIdesigns (Sep 25, 2019 at 9:19) (Below Threshold)
 @willaasss: Carbon Patrol with air shock weighs the same as my Antidote with coil equipped with standard coil spring. That is the same as 2008 alu Nomad with DHX Air. The alu version weighs 4.3kg - just under Commencal Supreme DH with additional links and yoke. What is it that you don’t understand? That is weight range of old Kona Stinky and Stab. Were they durable? No. Since when weight equals durability? Sure if you get below certain level which is under 2kg for carbon frame snd 2.5 for alu, you can break it but Transition smells shitty tubing and even shittier layup with material volume to compensate for that.

If this was 0.5kg I wouldn’t care but this a full kilo. Congratulations for defending something impossible to defend.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: "I really don't care and I wish you all the best of luck"... you've got a weird f*ckin way of showing it. Why the excessive amount of typing because a bike (frame of all things) is heavier then you like it? We don't have to have the same opinion, but you are clearly over opinionated to the point of being retarded.

That is all.
  • 3 0
 @chriskneeland: Holy shit, you mean a bike designed to be relatively efficient pedaling isn't quite as capable as one made to use gravity nearly exclusively? No fkn way!
  • 7 0
 Just to add to the debate, here are the frame only (no shock) weights for the 2019 150-165mm carbon frames off of Fanatik's bike builder (note: the Knolly is a 2018 )

Evil insurgent LB 2915 grams (6.43 lbs)
Ibis Mojo HD4 2690 grams (5.94 lbs)
Revel Rail 2909 grams (6.42 lbs)
Transition Patrol Carbon 2800 grams (6.18 lbs)
Knolly Warden Carbon 2904 grams (6.41 lbs)
  • 9 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Who knew Waki was such a weight weenie? I bet if you spent less time on pointless stuff like counting other people's grams you'd still be the resident PB illustrator.

Let me break this down for you: Transition Al Patrol can be bought today for as low as $1600 frame w/ a shock. It's made overseas in a factory probably run by robots. If you like the geo, you'll find that the bike rides well and does nothing strange. It is exactly what it purports to be - journey man bike. If you want something that is more refined in materials, bespoke or whatever, buy it. There's a great place for bikes like this in the world of options.

Your comparison of bikes made 12 years ago is silly. They were 3''+ shorter - which is less material - with less need to overcome this increased leverage (longer levers) forces and the expected durability in regards to rider's use was certainly a lower bar. Virtually all mfgrs have to account for all the changes - rider demand, leverage forces, bigger parts that require (generally) more material. We've seen weights increase across the board - and some mfgs are further along on mitigating this by material and construction techniques. Some have added material, some post legit weights, some are misleading, some don't share. At the end, it's just one data point that is as relevant as you want to make it. Any idiot can nit-pick someone else's equipment selection.
  • 1 2
 I'd be interested to know how much it would cost to buy the NX build & then replace the coil springs front and rear with lighter ti coils, since that's what will happen with most bike shop employees.

Don't worry about quoting it at E.P. I lost any bro deals years ago for acting like @WAKIdesigns .
Just quote me full retail.

Oh, and the WEIGHT SAVINGS.
  • 5 0
 @MarcusBrody: Also from Fanatic:

Ibis Ripmo AF 7.53
Trans Patrol Alloy 7.84

^weights without shock. 1/4 lb difference. Sacrilege! Unrideable.
  • 1 3
 @CarlMega:
One of those 2 bikes climbs well the other one doesn't.
  • 4 0
 @DDoc:

If you are having trouble climbing in terms of forward propulsion, its either too soft of a suspension setup, or the weight of the bike. The former is easy to fix (get a shock that has full lockout or run your suspension stiffer) the latter requires fitness. We aren't talking about 20-30 lb difference here, the weight differences are minimal.

If you are having trouble climbing in terms of technical maneuverability up steep and rough climbs, then yes, certain geometries make it easier, but those geometries also take away from the downhill performance.
  • 3 0
 @PJSANAB: Ok I'll bite. Detail your climbing experience of the alloy Patrol contrasted with your personal experience of the new, just released Ripmo AF.

Because it almost sounds like you are saying that these bikes, with comparable weight - that there may be more significant aspects than *gasp* weight to how they actually perform.

I've owned Ibis' high water mark of long travel climbers and also owned the Patrol plus I live in the high country - so I have an experience based opinion. Ibis makes an excellent product and would encourage anyone interested in long travel 29ers to check out the Ripmo/AF.
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 @CarlMega: fair enough.

I still have to demo an AF to see how comparable is to their Carbon version. Already emailed Ibis, but unfortunately the AF will not be present on the upcoming Bentonville Outerbike. However, one of these platforms is very efficient for all day riding. The other one bobs, needs use of the climb switch and it needs steep places to come alive. Here in the Southeast there is no use for one of these 2 bikes, except for Windrock. But when visiting Windrock I rather ride a downhill bike than any of these 2 bikes.

Price difference for an NX build:
-Ripmo $3,000
-Patrol $3400

The weight difference:
-Ripmo AF NX, medium weights 31.25 lbs
-Patrol Alloy NX, medium weights 35.20 lbs



www.transitionbikes.com/Bikes_PatrolAlloyNX.cfm
reviews.mtbr.com/ibis-ripmo-af-review-price-weight
  • 4 0
 @PJSANAB: The Ripmo AF that MTBR tests is the GX version, though it's still lighter than the 34.5 lb Patrol. The weight would go up another pound or so if you specced the Jade (more comparable to the Patrol's shock) than the Topaz.

That being said, I also would prefer the Ripmo AF as a do it all bike, but I'm not sure why that's the specific point of contention.
  • 3 0
 @PJSANAB: I can appreciate that. I'm still waiting on proper experience on the AF version to see if the new geo and travel kinematics has kept that Ripmo climbing characteristics. On paper you'd expect it to be taken down a notch. Ibis version of the DW link implementations have been very good climbers for me - and like you I feel they differentiate themselves when aggressively standing or doing power moves. My coiled Patrol w/ an Eleven Six does well only seated and the fault lines appear on standing efforts - my shock does not have a climb switch but I have a tune that is for jumplines & one for DH (by switch). I tend to ride tamer trails in the jump tune where I think it's surprisingly snappy and has a legit trail bike feel without feeling restricted like a climb switch. DH tune is plushed out as far as you are going to get with 160 four bar horst link. I comfortably ride either tune but make my selection per terrain.

Finally on those weights - I wonder (even Fanatik's weights are suspect). I fully expect the Ripmo AF to be lighter than Patrol but my alloy version in XL with 11/6 and a Lyrik Vorsprung coil weighs in at 35lbs and an oz or two. Proper scale verified.

Cheers - your response was nicely sorted and civil.
  • 1 0
 @PJSANAB: so where do we gain that extra 4lbs. Rims & tires are 27.5 on Patrol which should be a weight savings. But I'm guessing since they're specing coil on the Patrol, they went with heavier casing tires & a more basic rim with higher spoke count and more base model hub set since its marketed as a more full on aggro bike out of the box & I'll randomly assume the Ripmo is speced with a lower spoke count rim & thinner rim /lighter casing (possibly rear semi-slick). Are coils & wheels all that extra weight?
  • 3 0
 @bizutch: It's really 3 pounds as the weight that PSANAB was for a GX build on the Ripmo AF. But of that probably one pound is from the coil vs. air shock, so now you're down to two pounds with the rest of the spec.
  • 1 0
 @Thustlewhumber: silver had great conditions last weekend. Lots of brake bumps but perfect dirt and weather.
  • 1 2
 @WAKIdesigns: @WAKIdesigns: damn dude! i love your replies, dunno why you´re getting so many down-votes.. it´s all true, just go out and ride! i have a PP Shan N5 steel frame, 140mm rear travel which weights just above 4kg with air shock, paired with a fox 36 160mm, and other stuff.. full build is a bit less than 16kg, i really love the bike! so we all just have to go out and have fun!
  • 2 0
 @CarlMega: I'm in the process of replacing my Sentinel with a Ripmo AF. I rode my 36lb Sentinel from Molas to Greysill and the CB park all in one week and was pretty happy. Hopefully the Ripmo does just as good with a little more travel and a little less weight!

Honestly i'm mainly switching so there is a new color between my legs and to see if i like a more progressive bike. I only feel the weight putting it in the truck at the end of the day. I mostly rode park on a 2018 Demo last year and honestly had more fun on the sentinel this year.
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: okay but who cares it's just about having fun outdoors.
  • 3 0
 @giveherhell: I'd be really interested to hear whats you think once you've gotten a few rides in on the Ripmo AF. A Sentinel was one of my dream bikes for a time, but it seems a bit too plow-bikey for my everyday riding.
  • 1 0
 @BEERandSPOKES:
Couldn’t have said it better myself
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: When it's mostly just you talking.... it's 90% idiots.
  • 1 3
 @CropDustin: tell me your favorite trail
  • 2 0
 @CarlMega: you r dumb. Walk is right numbers arent going to be much more than ten to a degree different across most considered bicycles of any flavor. Also they they're theirs, nore there there is and thats that. And if it came to you door did you build it on your lawn or has civilization reached you where you built put it in your car drove to another "improved" area and rode, so wouldnt that be the same as going to a shop buying the bike driving to ride it then taking it home. IMHO online sales only further deteriorate infrastructure and the ability to hold informational discussion and become the internets dishpit filled with burned cream dishes.
  • 2 0
 @lateandsweaty: I upvoted you...but because I got a great visual of you being just livid as hell and spitting the whole time you said this.
  • 2 0
 @MarcusBrody: After having had the Ripmo AF for a week. It is better at everything, it's built a lb lighter with the jade and a basic code/gx/alloy bar build with reserve 30's. Same as my sentinel except the suspension. Corners as good, pedals better, eats up small trail trash the sentinel was harsh on, doesn't bottom out hard 3 times a ride even with the biggest volume spacer and a custom tune.

I'm stoked.
  • 2 0
 @giveherhell: Awesome! Thanks for the followup. I definitely want to get on an AF at some point. I've resisted the initial temptation, so maybe next season I can do a shootout between the AF and carbon version.
  • 1 0
 @giveherhell: SO the biggest complaint heard about the original carbon Ripmo was that it had an almost falling shock rate, so it couldn't be run with coils or even the X2- you had to use the DPX2 since even with all the spacers in it the X2 still had too large an air can. This make it undergunned on big and fast stuff, but make it pedal really well. Is the AF different?
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: I haven't been on the AF, but its shock rate is more progressive than the original so it plays nice with coils.
  • 1 0
 @hamncheez: I haven't ridden a plastic Ripmo, but that was exactly my complaint with the Sentinel. I had the biggest volume spacer the DPX2 would take with a custom tune that was Harshmo AF and I could bottom it out on what I consider to be pretty flowy trails. Moab or bike park? Fugetaboutit!

I'm 180lbs for reference and like to think I can get after it but I'm nothing special.

The RipmoAF I was just doing dumb stuff in Moab yesterday that I previously only looked at and did not send because I didn't want my ankle bones donkey punching me in the back of the head. Stoked to head to angel fire and CB next year with it!
  • 3 0
 @hamncheez: just came back from Bentonville Outerbike. After demoing both I will be buying the Carbon Ripmo. It just climbs better. To me the weight penalty of the AF vs C is noticeable, but the AF is better than any competitor at it’s price point by far. The AF climbs way better than a Yeti SB150, Santa Cruz Megatower, Evil Offering, Fezzari La Sal and Evil Calling.
Also, I overheard a conversation from an Ibis representative and the Carbon Ripmo will be updated to match the AF. So shock fitting issues and head angle will be solved on the next carbon version.
  • 1 0
 @PJSANAB: Does the AF or carbon version descend better than any of those?
  • 3 0
 @scvkurt03: the Yeti SB150 descends better than all those mentioned. Then Ripmo AF, followed by Ripmo, Offering, Megatower, La Sal and Calling.
  • 62 12
 Inside Transition's corporate office:
"We haven't had enough publicity this year, what should we do?".
"I know, lets switch to coil shocks and make a big announcement saying how they are better and more bro, then next year we can switch back to air and put out a bunch of press releases again saying how they are lighter and more poppy".
"Excellent idea, now lets go riding and get some brews".
  • 52 38
 To be a bro in the biking industry:

-Grow female like long hair (it's 2019, how dare I specify a gender)
-Grow or glue on a lumberjack kind of beard. This is a requirement for the following item.
-Craft beer tasks amazing and is super good.
-Flat brim hat
-Flannel
-Vocabulary includes 'bro and brah'
  • 3 1
 lol true
  • 8 1
 @bartb: the number of down votes means you nailed it. I'm all except for the beard lol
  • 3 0
 @bartb: only box I check is the obsession over craft beer. I'm 32 and cant grow a beard but have yet to try gluing one on. Maybe that's what I'm missing in order to get podiums at races.
  • 1 0
 @bartb: Damn well guess ive nailed it. Here I was thinking it was all tats and piercings but drowning in the mainstream is not the worst.
  • 31 0
 Riding: 9
Music: 9
Shuttle Truck: 10
Videography: 9
Narrator: Cringe-worthy
  • 6 3
 pretty generous
  • 8 0
 I don't know if I've even seen a serious Transition release video. I'm guessing (hoping?) this is humor.
  • 2 0
 @bschleenbaker: All Transition videos are satire. Google "Transition what about the carbon" video
  • 33 1
 O'Coil rules!
  • 10 0
 O'Coil, I have a feeling that your whole family is going down...
  • 22 1
 Boutique prices for a transition?
  • 13 0
 as is the tradition
  • 4 1
 Then go get a fuel with nx joe bud
  • 15 1
 I would definitely fill up my loam shelf meter to number 10 with my patented 'Crapflapp' which stops crap wedging in down the poop chute of my Patrol and keeps the bearings protected. Props for transition having a laugh while making bikes again!
  • 2 1
 Lets see it!
  • 5 0
 @garrisond5: www.pinkbike.com/photo/17520366 I've not got my bike with me, but if you download this photo and zoom in to the back of the seat tube near the crank..... there she is!
  • 1 0
 You should totally patend the "Crapflapp".
  • 2 0
 @notphaedrus: what is that made out of? I have a sentinel and have the same problem
  • 4 0
 nifty. can you share how you made it? I've been wanting to do something similar, but I guess I'm not crafty enough!
  • 1 0
 @notphaedrus: I did the same thing on my old Scout and now my Patrol. Made it out of flexible cutting board
  • 1 0
 Throw a fender on the rear.
  • 1 0
 @notphaedrus: Dude, of you don’t start making rear fenders call Crapflaps you’re missing out.
  • 1 0
 sick
  • 1 0
 I have done the same on my Patrol 2017 with my clear protective film...works well!
  • 12 0
 Goodbye giddyup versatility
Frown
Your face when a 1st Patrol rider passes you spinning on a steep climb

“ 2 options - let the customer decide”

You’re welcome
  • 1 1
 Very True. I had a relatively new rider in jean shorts on an air sprung patrol keep up with me on my aggro hardtail while I was sprinting up fire road climbs. I didn't think much of it at the time because I chalked it up to his youth and assumed it was a shorter travel transition. I was quite surprised a couple of weeks later when I found out how big of a bike it actually was.

I tried coil on my trail bike. While it is awesome for downhills it wasn't that great for the other 95% of the ride. Even with a really good climb switch from Cane Creek. Coil is all the hype nowadays but after trying both I'll take a well sorted air can.
  • 5 0
 @generationfourth all hype apart from the fact they work way better and need next to no maintenance.
  • 3 1
 @thenotoriousmic: yes those are the pros, but there are definite cons namely weight and being able to adjust spring rate/spring curve. Like I said I've thoroughly tried one out and for a trail bike it wasn't worth it. However I could see the benefits on a longer travel bike like the Patrol but like @Pyres mentioned you do lose some versatility.
  • 1 0
 @generationfourth: it depends on the leverage curve of the bike and setup. I prefer coil (on a decently progressive bike) as it as better mid stroke support which helps with aggressive stood up pedaling and then you can dial in the firmness with lsc to reduce any bob. Even the best air just feels harsh to me now, and no adjustment can help with that.
  • 1 1
 I love my Alloy Patrol and have been racing it both Enduro and XC (got 2nd in class at Downieville and Shasta Enduro), and although I would love to try this supple feeling everyone talks about, I really can't justify adding another pound when I'm already over 35 as is unless it totally changed the feeling.

I would like to demo one, but don't want to commit and then dislike it.
  • 13 0
 When your life is so meaningless you make a bike part a way of life. #ONCOIL
  • 14 6
 Coil shocks have their place and I'm glad they exist but this type of marketing just makes people buy it for the cool factor alone. It's like the guy who buys gumwall tires so his bike looks "sick" even though the tread pattern is coompletely wrong fornjisnriding style.

I get that transition is having fun and I'm all for that, but sending the message that you need a coil spring to have this laid back attitude is crap. The type of spring your shock uses has nothing to do with your lifestyle. You can be laid back and have fun riding with your buds regardless ofnyournrea sr shock type.
  • 8 2
 You have identified branding, and are correct that it is stupid. But it works.
  • 16 2
 ironic coming from hard tail party
  • 10 3
 Lighten up Larry... I'm pretty sure they aren't nearly as serious about this "marketing" as you are.
  • 3 0
 It’s a joke!
  • 3 3
 Seems like the Seattle ironic hipster attitude has spilled over into transition's marketing. They're so bro they're not even bro, bro.
  • 10 3
 Crap.... Does this mean I'm not allowed to have post ride beers because I'm not #oncoil ?

Its a shock... it's not a lifestyle...

I'm just wondering, did the person responsible for the funny videos that Transition put out before quit?
  • 3 0
 It was just more satirical than their usual schoolboy humour: "It goes up to 11!", T.I.T.S. etc

Completely different but I liked it
  • 2 0
 @karatechris: actually, the Ripcord was probably one of my favorite videos..
  • 1 0
 Fuck coil. Air for life!
  • 8 2
 @TransitionBikeCompany this release was underwhelming and is borderline big box bike brand marketing. you make a small change that the customer is already doing on their own and release it as new and improved. for shame. i was really hoping with the blowout sale of the patrol and sugglers being completely out of stock that were you were going to marry them into a small wheel'd mid travel trail ripper or even a mullet bike. i want to give you my money but not for this.

sincerely,
- a short legged customer whos nuts hit the down tube when i stand over a 29er
  • 1 0
 "you were going to marry them into a small wheel'd mid travel trail ripper "

uh.... try a Transition Scout?

Edit: but I guess if you want a 29er then I see your point. Scout being a 27.5 bla bla bla
  • 3 0
 @ridebikesyall: i got my models mixed up and cant edit.

scouts are out of stock and according to transition they are not getting more, i wanted one of those because i dont need all the travels of the patrol and its was a good value for the spec. the standover on my buddies sentinel is too much for me. the smuggler in al would be a close second, but its carbon and carbon isnt worth the added cost to me. i suspect the scout has been killed by the enemy and that makes me sad.
  • 1 0
 @mobil1syn: dude. I feel your pain. I had a 2018 Scout and I LOVVVVED it. I sold it and got a 2019 Patrol and while I do love my Patrol, I will always have a special place in my heart for the Scout. My secret hope is that they bring it back to life in carbon. Although if they do that I’ll have to figure out how to justify owning two FS 27.5 bikes...
  • 1 0
 @ridebikesyall: I saw on the Transition UK insta they said they Scout isn’t dead... so hopefully there’s an even radder fresh incarnation en route...
  • 7 0
 Sounds a bit like : "Be cool be Oncoil !"
Saddly no words about pure performance or ultimate match with the Patrol kinematics ....
  • 6 1
 @TransitionBikeCompany ... care to talk a bit about the shock tune, and pros/cons of running a coil on a frame with apparently a very linear rate? Are there any other changes to the frame, linkage, or shock you want to talk about?
Cheers.
  • 17 12
 Dont know why people spec fox suspension with sram crap? Just a hassle of selling new parts at knock down costs and then buying new stuff. Waste of money. Please spec shimano more.
  • 6 2
 Or just keep the sram and put some lyrics on it. You’re only going to sell the 36’s after three months anyway after they’ve sent you and brand new set out after the crown started creaking.
  • 6 4
 Yeah but I’d rather take a way better fork with some creeping that a mediocre one that doesn’t make any noise @thenotoriousmic:
  • 8 4
 @freeridejerk888: Meanwhile 99% of riders wont feel a difference between the Lyrik and the 36.
Or maybe Im wrong and the Kashima makes a big difference?
  • 4 2
 @thenotoriousmic: Had no issues with my 2019 Grip 2's. The X2 is the best shock I have ever owned also. Cant count on my hand the replacement monarchs I have had. The deluxe was an improvement but nowhere near X2 levels. My 2 lyriks were also full of problems themselves. Oh and my GX eagle cost me a fortune in repairs and replacements due to known faults as I found out. Oh and the two pair of faulty Code R's from last year. Never a single issue with Shimano components.
  • 4 1
 @NotNamed: I deffo feel the difference after moving to a performance 36 and X2 this year. The stiffness is there and the support too. As said before the X2 is miles ahead of the deluxe. Wouldnt bother with kasima at all. Waste of money and looks crap tbh. I have a grip 2 and all the other adjustments.
  • 1 0
 @NotNamed: the lyrik and the 36 are so close. I think for most of us it’s matching bike colorWink I will say that I really like tinkering with my factory 36. So many knobs!
  • 3 1
 maybe you should write to Shimano and tell them to stop being dicks about Microspline so more bikes can use it
  • 1 2
 I can tell you the boxxer is miles behind the 40 so mostly likely the current lyrik is too @Yetimike2019:
  • 1 0
 @ImAManCheetah88: Yeah the X2 should be better. I also think that the Performance stuff is where the moneys at.

But im happy with my 34 Rythm- works very Well for being cheap.

5 different things to adjust is a pain tought
  • 7 0
 You shouldn't drink when your oncoil; you might get a call and have to go into work.
  • 1 0
 nice one!
  • 10 3
 Well....that came as a shock ;-)
  • 3 1
 Way to spring up the puns
  • 3 1
 @dfbland: i have to recoil in horror at some jokes...sure I'll bounce back though..
  • 6 0
 Good, air shocks ride like ass. I'll take 1 extra pound for beautiful sensitivity and more reliability for us heavy folk
  • 1 0
 At what rider weight would you say is the tipping point for coil versus air being a better option performance and not preference wise?
  • 3 0
 @ridebikesyall: Ooofff, probably around the 210-220 Mark. Most bike stuff is designed around the magic 185 pound category. That being said even if I was lighter I'd rather ride a coil, just feels more connected to the ground IMHO.
  • 2 2
 @ridebikesyall: There isn't one. It depends on the shock and the bike.
  • 1 0
 @m33pm33p: well damn. I feel left out at 150lbs. Frown
  • 3 0
 With all the #on oil shredding love that truck. But the drone suspension is still #ontorsionbar call JD Fab in Arizona get some t100 CV axles and make that truck #on oil will jump without the tires shaking two inches side to side. Love the bikes and a alloy version I will trade you the Fab work on the truck for a frame Wink
  • 5 0
 So, do I give my weight when ordering? Or just immediatly throw away my spring and get the right one?
  • 2 2
 They’ll ship it with the right spring for the average weight in each size other than that I’m guessing you’l have to budget for a £25 spring when you splash out £5000 on a new bike.
  • 5 0
 Great. Now release a carbon scout that is at least somewhat weight conscious.
  • 1 0
 Preach!
  • 5 0
 The new alloy patrol weighs 35 pounds! That's one way to cut down on warranty claims i guess.
  • 4 0
 Sentinel me too. And if you have changed any leverage stuff in the frame for the coil sell that part separately too.
  • 4 1
 Couldn’t decide between a bronson and a patrol. Now I don’t have to factor in a shock upgrade the decision has been made.
  • 1 0
 Been wanting to try a coil on my Patrol for a while since it sees more park than pedaling but the DPX2 does does do a great job in my opinion. Also glad I got the Sage Gray color when I could that blue is pretty ugly but the gray isnt too bad.
  • 1 0
 If only they could get their marketing team to come up with a cool hashtag that pinkbike could use over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again

also, a coil is a type of contraceptive device, so being #oncoil sounds like a different thing to what they intended I think.
  • 1 0
 IMHO i think they should let the customer decide if coil or air, kind of like what Ibis is doing with the Ripmo AF. I personally installed a coil on my nomad and wont be going back to air any time soon. The video was bad ass and that truck woooo!!!!
  • 2 0
 Has anyone else been offered to purchase a different bike from TR because they don't have replacement parts available for your frame within the warranty period? Happened within the first year. Still pretty chapped about it
  • 3 0
 Bought a Commencal Meta AM 29 because the dealer prices are whack these days If I am going to go heavy intentionally, might as well go cheap.
  • 2 0
 I have a friend who was hoping for a completely new redesign of the Patrol this year. He's incredibly disappointed. This is akin to the motorcycle world's 'Bold New Graphics'.
  • 4 0
 Why? It's barely 2 years old and the geo is still on point.
  • 2 0
 @kingtut87: He heard a rumor about adjustable reach, HTA, and a different suspension platform from someone, somewhere. I told him the same thing. Bike is barely 2 years old. Makes no sense to change things just for the sake of changing them.
  • 1 0
 There will always be rumors.
  • 5 0
 The NX build should of been Marzocchi.
  • 1 0
 Think I'm gonna need one in Charcoal. My alloy XO1 Sentinel weighs 34 lbs with pedals. It rips! I had a Patrol before that and it ripped! I have at least 10lbs of fat to lose before I start sweating over 3lbs on a bike. I will smash this bike over two years and buy whatever they put out next! You know a Transition is going to be a ripping bike the advertisements are hilarious.
  • 1 0
 one way or another, companies have to sell more bikes. transition is no different. these people have rent, mortgage and probly a few of the staff have payments to make on their trucks or cars. they arent working for peanuts either in the seattle area. so, of the ad got you stoked enough to buy a patrol..great! thats all this article was about! having fun and supporting a smaller bike company for what they have available NOW.
  • 4 0
 Are we getting a Mud Shelf Meter for the UK bike? Big Grin
  • 3 0
 I’ve ridden there a few times and your mud is truly unique. I had an upside down shark fin on my down tube. Stickiest mud ever.
  • 1 0
 @RussellTinka: It sure is! Cleaning the bike usually is a task that takes longer than the ride itself! lol
  • 6 3
 Leave the shock pump at home, but don't forget a torque wrench and an extra spring!
  • 3 0
 why?
  • 1 0
 @mtb-scotland: Fat days and skinny days. I know I can bounce between coil spring weights.
  • 6 5
 @mfoga: surely its just fat days with you Americans lol
  • 4 0
 @mtb-scotland: Nearly a third of scots are obese and 65% are overweight. Sorry, you are right there with us.
  • 3 3
 @mfmediocremtb: didn't say we weren't.
  • 2 0
 @mtb-scotland: Haha, fair enough.
  • 1 0
 @mfmediocremtb: its the child obesity in our country that is even worse.
  • 4 1
 heavy weight, heavy pricing, but it´s on coil and it´s talking about loam
  • 4 1
 Did they update the leverage curve or is this just a spec change? Seems like the former but no mention of it is odd.
  • 2 0
 Just a spec change.
  • 2 0
 *Everyone liked that* Funny how people have been trying to push air for so long, yet alas here we find ourselves back #ONCOIL heaven
  • 1 0
 Hard shredders beware, I had a cane creek DBI coil shock break at the shaft on porcupine rim. Light weight for "easy" riders.
Next to an MRP or old Fox DHX it looked downright skinny!
  • 2 0
 ha, the loam shelf meter is pretty damn funny. my new favorite bike decal/technology, replacing Pivot's super boost label from the hot seat.
  • 3 0
 Hopefully they announce a carbon Scout soon
  • 2 0
 em I the only one who saw that subliminal message at the end of the video.. the guy unpacking something from yeti bag Big Grin
  • 2 0
 Do the smuggler next! I've been riding my smug #oncoil all summer and that thing is a beast!
  • 1 0
 Which shock do you have on yours? I've been wanting to do that.
  • 1 0
 Just fitted a exe storia to my smug and man it’s oncoiled the hell out of it! Really has made it a trail machine so much more grip,pop and stability. So worth it.
Buddy’s all ready looking at this as his next frame! as he loves his 16 patrol and they’ve looked after him really well regarded a warranty issue to.
  • 1 0
 @batman11: where did you buy yours? Are they sold in the states?
  • 1 0
 @dwmetalfab: www.brennanautosport.com/mountain-bike/ext-racing-shox
  • 1 0
 @dwmetalfab: MRP Hazzard with an MRP progressive spring.
  • 3 0
 They shipping with multiple springs?
  • 3 0
 So... same bike... with a coil?
  • 3 3
 you can take our reverb droppers but you will never take our coils!!!! Coil for life!! Coils say I came to party...air says the weight weenies gang is here, lets climb 4 straight hours!
  • 6 4
 One of the rare frames where the Alloy version is far better looking than the Carbon option.
  • 4 0
 Cringe.
  • 2 0
 My transition is about 3 lbs too heavy, the rider, about 30 lbs too heavy. Obv about to spend some money on carbon parts lol
  • 1 0
 Sbaaaaaaaam di awesome AS usual ! Gooood Job Tr Guys! Looking forward to Shred It!
  • 2 0
 I get the impression the Transition dudes/dudettes have fun.
  • 2 0
 Everything I love about riding in that promo. + Kiwis be representin’
  • 1 1
 Waiting for the Forager with shroom technology serious heights often overlooked miles. Perfect to let go of your jahbroni and look forward to your bowl of macaroni
  • 2 0
 This is some oncoil sh!t right here!
  • 3 0
 i want that truck
  • 1 0
 mmmmmmmmm wooden flat beds!!
  • 3 0
 #transitionownerforlife
  • 2 0
 I'm just glad that Craig is drinking bubbly water.
  • 3 0
 Is this news worthy ?
  • 3 2
 Nice lame ass Yeti Placement at the End. What is that a $500 handbag for your overpriced micro brew?
  • 1 0
 How do you edit post on mobile website dam autocorrect screwed me again smh
  • 1 0
 Cane creek dB coil on my non boost Ali scout...like an anvil off a cliff on the downs...great fun
  • 3 2
 I can't be the only person who has ridden a coil and preffered my air shock... right?
  • 2 0
 Coils are finally cool again?
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 Air or coil doesn't matter for me.
I need the Loam Shelf Meter.
It's possibile to have it or should I just buy a new frame?
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 Still have a 15 Patrol and it is an awesome bike. Climbs well and descends well. need a new shock though......haha
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 Loam meter is gold. And now the patrol is even sexier with the coil..I smell an upgrade from my current 2016 patrol!!
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 Yeah Marco!!! Such a sick video Tahoe shreds!
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 Bottoming out constantly is #oncoil
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 Glad to hear that I can slap a coil on my no Loam Shelf Metered Patrol
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 i would like to know the DHX2 tune...
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 Also curious! Factory settings on a base tune have been pretty good to me though.
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 Yep. The factory base tune on my dhx2 seems pretty good to me too... as a pretty average rider
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 Spoke with transition yesterday on the phone. They said email them and they’ll provide the tune.
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 #itsnotloam
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 Look out for backpack style hydration packs to make a comeback too
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 Air forks on a coil bike? WTF brah? Should be #IB1/2COIL
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 stoked on my 2018 patrol, its way more advanced then I am.
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 Cant wait for a coil dropper post in model year 2021
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 I like my overweight patrol
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 Pickup truck: 1
Mountain bike: 0
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 #SENDITONCOILRANDY
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 Sentinel me
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 True bros ride coil.
  • 1 0
 Because ‘Murica
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 Yusssss #OnCoil
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 I WANT.
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 No dw link?
  • 1 1
 My wife is #oncoil.
(That's a contraception joke).
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 Warranty is only 3yrs?
  • 1 1
 Yea Randy!
  • 1 1
 #coilbullshit
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 Not interested in these old fashioned bikes. Come on transition, get with the times & get an ebike released.
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 This is clearly bait.
  • 1 1
 #onair
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